Linux or BSD?

>can't handle windows
>wants into *nix
Just git gud at GPOs and live like a sane person. Desktop Linux is pointless unless you specifically need the environment for work.

>>62325177
>BSD
What is wrong with you? Who hurt you?

>>62325237
Microsoft

>>62325177
Try FreeBSD first, and if you find that your hardware is supported, stick with that.

>>62325207
I used Linux exclusively for 14 years on the desktop. How is it pointless, you retard?

>>62325237
RedPillMe on the BSD hate. Why is that?

>>62325306
>How is it pointless
Little to no advantages for a typical consumer desktop usecase, whole lot of headache even now.
>actually recommending bsd for non-server use
But I already see I'll get nothing but autistic sperging in response.

>>62325177
>can't figure out windows
>thinks linux is an escape

oh you innocent child

>>62325346
Using BSD as a desktop is like using a formula one race car as a get to work vehicle. you can do it but that's really not what its made for.

>>62325359
Just because you can't into nixlikes doesn't mean it's useless. There are many advantages, especially if you're a developer. If you just want to watch anime porn and post on facebook, then a Linux desktop machine would just be a source of frustration. I take it you're in that noskill bracket?

>>62325177
You should try a few different things out in VirtualBox first so that you can kick the tires on different distros to see what you like and don't like.

Set it up to be fullscreen, and it'll be like that's all you've got. Do everything in there: mount USB devices, listen to music, watch movies, do some work.

If something bugs you about a distro, either see if there's a solution someone has created or try a different distro.

Then, when you find one that you've liked enough to use for a couple weeks continuously, back up your necessary files and take the plunge.

>>62325378
I've figured out Windows, and have been using it since XP. I'm just getting tired of Microsoft and the stuff they try to pull with each new Windows. I've used Linux before, but ended up switching because of some programs I needed that I couldn't get on Linux at the time.

>>62325422
You just proved his point, idiot.
>Little to no advantages for a typical consumer desktop usecase, whole lot of headache even now.
Not every PC user is a developer, and both Linux and BSD are shit for everyone who isn't.

>>62325515
>stuff they try to pull

such as?

>some programs not on linux

what makes you think anything's changed

>>62325583
>what makes you think anything's changed
What's changed is I don't need those programs anymore.

>>62325422
Dumb autist trying to prove that you're better than everyone else. Kill yourself.

>>62325591
you won't need them until you need them. and btw, "works" means different things on linux and windows

anyways like others said use a virtual machine to test the waters

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>>62325422
>it's "u just cant into my 1337 h4xx0ring" teenage autism
Like clockwork.
>especially if you're a developer
Every post you replied to specifically pointed out "normal" home desktop use case. Contain your autism, please.

>>62325600
Kek.

>>>/facebook/

>>62325177
I tried pcbsd for a bit but it would break after updates. I was leary of linux mainly because of all the fud (like in this thread). Windows 7 didn't like my ssd. I tried out mint and I was on the web looking up things and it wasn't even installed yet. I installed it and ended up running win7 in a vm after a 2-3 hour of first being introduced to mint. I later went to lubuntu after trying it out on a laptop and on a modern machine is pretty nice. Learning curve with linux for sure but things get better as you do as apposed to things getting progressively shittier on windows with time. I just installed win7 on a family machine with an ssd and it went ok. Funny thing was IE11 'stopped responding' to msnbc. That cracked me the hell up. Firefox works ok on it. Still don't want that shit in my life so it's linux and windows in a vm for a few applications for me. Nice thread.

I'll take anything over GNU.

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>>62325346
Have you ever seen a distro war? Linux users hate everyone, even other Linux users.

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>>62325739
>openbsd shaking hands with anyone

>>62325177
Desktop or laptop?

BSD is more painful than Linux on many laptops. It's unfortunate but true.

On desktops though, BSD is rock solid.

>>62325422
>muh developer OS
but it doesn't have visual studio
whats the point

I'm using openBSD as a the "daily driver" (hate that term) on my laptop.
Runs fine, can be difficult to use day-to-day and it definitely would be better as a server OS.

I'm probably gonna hop back to CRUX which I found is like a merger between *BSD and GNU/Linux - similar package systems, init systems and rc scripts.

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>>62325177
>Linux or BSD?
Ubuntu

>>62325177
I prefer BSD philosophically and I thoroughly enjoy running it on my servers, but Linux has a much better desktop experience currently, so I tend to use Linux for my laptops and workstations.

I find Fedora a nice easy-to-use desktop, and Mint is too. They'll have drivers, and work properly out of the box.
Ubuntu would too, but I find Mint to be a better Ubuntu than Ubuntu is.

My preference is Fedora, because I find it more consistent than the Debian family (Ubuntu and Mint), but if you're looking at running video games, Mint is probably a better bet.

I hope this helps.

Linux is better but I prefer BSD licences

>>62329135
Visual Studio is garbage.

>>62325563
>not everyone is a developer
Not him. True. But for those who are, GNU/Linux systems are simply better for development, apart from "muh freedom".

>>62330856
yea
and grapes are sour

>>62330888
>GNU/Linux systems are simply better for development of GNU/Linux software
ftfy

>>62325306
this

the main reason to NOT go with a BSD would be hardware support, so that's probably why that'd make a good first test.

the handbook is really well written (albeit a bit terse), and it's good to get you started.
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/getting-started.html

>>62330931
>implying you can't obtain all the libraries you need there too

>>62325681
>Learning curve with linux for sure but things get better as you do as apposed to things getting progressively shittier on windows with time.

THIS.
It may be a little hard at first, but, unless you're not an idiot, it ultimately pays off. After 5 years of using Linux, I can't see myself going back to Windows, even on desktop.

>>62330888
bullshit. It's better for some devs but not for all. The only real reson to use GNU/Linux is GPL. It was and still is the only truly ethical license.

>>62330931
>what is a cross-compiler
I use Windows but I still use WSL for anything development related. Windows toolchains are just horrible and MS knows this, hence why they included ELF binary support in Win10.