Windows 7 vs Windows 10

Less botnet, much faster, more user control over your own OS...

>>62316047
Windows 7 is a better desktop OS.

>>62316047
If you like the UI or is paranoid about muh botnet

>>62316108
>Less botnet
Enterprise + proper configuration.
>much faster
I doubt there's a noticeable difference in any direction.
>more user control over your own OS
I didn't notice anything missing.

I'll stick to Windows 10 because that means that I don't have to bother with cygwin.

What about battery life on laptops? Any experience with them? I can't get a definitive answer from google

>>62316047
My machine doesn't work with 10 for some reason. I couldn't get it to stop auto installing the wrong graphics driver. Windows 8.1 and Linux don't have this problem

>>62316514
Better on 7. 10 has a bug which forces the GPU on P0 everytime you interact with the immersive shell (start menu, settings, any uwp application..).

when are these fucking threads going to get banned ffs

>>62316108
>less botnet
Anglefire ayylmao

>>62316047
How's this even a question, 7 hands down.

>>62316514
>>62316555
I'd really appreciate if you stopped spreading misinformation on this board.
1. The igpu will use far less power than the cpu to render the same thing.
2. You're never going to see the igpu in any lower power state because it's rendering the entire fucking screen.

>install fuckin enterprise fuckin LTSB so I can at least have more control over my own OS
>disable auto updates, disable notification
>every once in a while the whole screen will be blocked by a popup saying a new update is available, no close button the only way is to click view updates
fucking epic microshit

>>62316881
I'm talking about a desktop with a Titan X Pacscal you dumb fuck shill. It goes to P0 every time I open the start menu.

>>62316925
>What about battery life on laptops?
>I'm talking about a desktop with a Titan X Pacscal
Are you retarded or just pretending?

>>62316047
A UI that doesn't look like dog shit and it has better support for old games.

>>62316590
stop liking what I don't like

>>62317055
are you fucking serious? There are literally 5 of these threads every fucking day, when W10 came out it was so bad I had to stop browsing /g/ for a month

I would really like to hear some improvements 10 has over 7, because I can't think anything besides better SSD support.

>>62316047
deadlock 2: shrine wars doesn't work on 10
even with dxwnd fixes it's not enjoyable and crashes sometimes

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>>62316047
You tell me

>>62317458
mudlord pls make n64 emulation great again

>>62317458
Where can I find that website? i'd like to check some of the links

>>62317458
90% of that doesn't apply to Windows 10 but Windows in general. Also, I wanted to post the Linux pic but it's enormous, 4chan doesn't allow it

>>62317707
Break it into 2 pieces

>>62317458
Im convinced windows is such a clusterfuck of non modular or standardized code that it really is impossible to standardize a ui in windows easily.

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>>62317458

>>62317643
Sorry man but this shitty fucking site keeps thinking my post is spam, so just googled "Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong With Windows 10"

It'll be the first result usually from a place called itvision.altervision.

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>>62317729
>standardize a ui in windows
even MS cant do that

>>62317495
Ask byuu to write one, I'm finished with this scene.

>>62317749
But he's a faggot. Why did you retired?

>>62317730
this has been proven wrong a 1000 times

>>62317749
You have to contribute back to mainstream, etc
Its religion instead of logic
Personally i found the emulation scene toxic

>>62317838
meant for >>62317756

Old hardware

>>62316219
You really didn't notice the lack of control over updates?

>>62317848
I see your point, good luck with whatever you are doing man.

>>62316047
I already know how to use Windows 7. Windows 10 only offers directx 12 support and that isn't a good enough reason to switch.

>>62317786
Show me one example

>>62318258
lurk more faggot

This thread is relevant to my interests. Anyone here have either an X220, X230 or W530 on Windows 10? I just got all 3 recently and the W530 is on Windows 10, its a fucking shitshow of lag and stutter and I'm wondering if I just need a fresh install perhaps, the X220/30 are on Windows 7 and perform ok but of course a fresh install shall be done soon.

Basically, I want to see if anyone finds these particular machines to be better or worse on Windows 10. I have a suspicion that they're better on 7 for usability but 'faster' on Windows 10.

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>>62317748
looking at you pic i realized that ms literally cant change because nobody at microsoft knows how to do it, pic related, and shills will try to damage control that this pic is a lie lmao

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say goodbye to your library anons

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say goodbye to all programs you have anons

>>62319784
>>62319835

say goodbye to your win 10 userbase M$

say goodbye to your rupees rajeets

>>62319752
>what it takes to add a dropdown
So there's a .cpp file that defines the behaviour and a .xaml file that defines the look of the UI.
If you want to add a new dropdown of course you're going to just copy the piece of xaml that defines it elsewhere and simply change the entries.
Same for the callback, it's mostly the same for every dropdown just with different ids.
String resources are required for localization. The only issue is the sequential id requirement.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or unusual about this process.
If you've ever worked with Android you'll know that it works exactly the same except that it generates resource ids for you.
The green guy is just retarded.

>>62320094
android studio also generates that xaml for you, it also generates callbacks for you, yes it totally works like in android with exception that android studio generates everything for you, yes totally

>>62319784
Many knew that this was the idea behind win8.
Gabe and other publsihers/programmers/producers talked against it, that's how valve digged its way into linux, that's why more and more engines start support vulkan.
The worst part of this is digitally signed executables.
Everything should be signed by ms, just like ios.
Expect a huge wave of linux users in the next years

>>62320153
There's a ui designer available in Visual Studio too but after a while you'll realize that writing xaml yourself is often a lot easier than wrestling with the editor.
The designer in Android Studio is even worse. Good luck trying to create anything more complicated than a single LinearLayout in the designer.

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>>62320215
it cant be worse if you have to manually copy paste gui code in visual studio. why dont you explain in a simple, single sentence why ms, after 2 years still cant fix their menus? i bet you know this, because you know exactly how windows development looks like, right?

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>>62320215
xml is unreadable as fuck, no wonder they cant fix windows if they have to edit files by hand

>>62320258
>why dont you explain in a simple, single sentence why ms, after 2 years still cant fix their menus
Higher-ups told the programmers that they need to make menus bigger because muh touch.
UWP controls were designed to be bigger. The new start menu is built using UWP. The taskbar is still using the old api so some intern probably got the job of styling the good old win32 context menu to make it look more like the UWP.
All other win32 applications use the old style. That's pretty much it.

Microsoft is going full damage control right now because their mobile os failed, the desktop market is shrinking, nobody cares about hololens and ai chatbots are still really bad at doing anything useful.
Slightly mismatched context menus are very low on the priority list.

>>62320520
thats a really cool story, have you thought about writing fantasy books?

>>62320575
Pick out one thing that sounds like fantasy to you.

>>62316047
Those UI changes introduced in Windows 8 and then doubled down on Windows 10 are awful. And now that it's being mantained in New Delhi instead of good ol' Redmond everything seems half-assed and poorly thought all-around.

>>62320583
you said uwp app use different menu than win32 apps, so why are there like 5 different menus?

>>62318302
Good example

>>62320614
Give me some examples.

I'll use this one even though it's a bit outdated >>62317748
>Left to right, top to bottom
Restyled taskbar menu, it now has the same dark background as the next two
Taskbar jumplist, custom, that one looked a bit different even in Windows 7
UWP right click menu
Explorer right click, that one also got restyled to be bigger but they reverted it at some point
The default thing you get with win32

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>>62320094
So you basically confirms everything whats in that pic is true? Thats what you wanted to say?

>>62320836
It's true and it's also the correct way to do things. Literally everyone does UI like that today.

>>62320858
maybe at microsoft, i write gui programs in qt for 6 years and i never had to manually edit generated xml code

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>>62320204
>Expect a huge wave of linux users in the next years

>>62320882
Qt Designer generates .ui files which are also xml.
If you're not using the designer then you're creating layouts directly with api calls which is very hard to maintain and the very reason people switched to xml for defining the ui layout.

>>62320945
thats right, but i still never had to edit ui files in notepad, i open designer and use drag and drop to manage gui, like every dev ever

>>62320977
I never used Qt Designer but every other WYSIWYG editor I used required me to sometimes edit the file manually.
Your requirements are probably very simple.

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>>62320945
editing xml files in notepad is even worse to maintain than creating layouts in c++ code.
>Your requirements are probably very simple.
wow, just look at this advance gui lmao, if visual studio cant handle such simple editing then its gui editor is shit

>>62321079
>only posting 1/2 of the control panel
gee bill....

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>>62321079
>fixed to two columns and breaks when you resize it instead of converting to a single column
That's the kind of shit you get when using only WYSIWYG editors.

>>62321103
sorry i dont have w10 with the second control panel

>>62321128
the same shit you would get if you edited xml file in notepad, how fucking retarded are you? to make this work different on different sizes you would have to code this in c++

Actually having control over your OS and keeping your privacy (provided you block telemetry, which can actually be fully removed from windows 7 unlike the giant keylogger in OS form that is win10)

>>62321161
Resizing behaviour will often be implemented in a container object but the layout will still stay separate.
Sometimes you'll have different layouts depending on the size of the window, you don't want to write all that shit in C++.

The entire world switched to this method, people are writing entire applications with Electron because creation good UIs is a lot easier with html.
Why don't you go complain to those people and tell them how they should write their layouts in program code instead of arguing with me?

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>>62317914

>>62321267
you cant write good gui in html alone you retard, you also need css and possibly javascript. all your screaching doesnt make any sense, guys at microsoft should not edit xml files in a ficking notepad, this not only bad for maintanace but also its hard as fuck when you have a gui with 1000+ lines of xml code. people do not edit gui files in a notepad, only retard do

>>62316047
Does Windows 10 Enterprise really allow you to disable telemetry/botnet? I'm using Pro, but I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading to Enterprise.

>>62321336
LTSB or bust

>>62321336
Yes if you can read instructions.
The issue is that some people can't do that and then they post wireshark screenshots on the internet.
Wireshark screenshots on properly configured systems aren't interesting so nobody posts them.

>>62321336
Yes. With the correct settings it is just as "botnet" as Windows 7. Windows 10 Enterprise is the only usable version aside from Server 2016.

>>62321342
>>62321360
>>62321382
So is LTSB the same as Enterprise? And is there a way to get it without reinstalling the entire OS and for free?

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>>62321342
>LTSB
trash

>>62321426
Buy a legitimate key from a reseller. They're no more than $20. For LTSB a reinstallation is required. Otherwise you just enter the key into your existing installation and you don't even need to reboot.

>>62321323
>you also need css and possibly javascript
You're really grasping at straws here. I shouldn't need to mention every single technology if I'm just trying to make a point that using a markup language is easier.

>guys at microsoft should not edit xml files in a ficking notepad
They don't edit xml files in notepad, they are using Visual Studio which provides syntax highlighting and also shows you a preview of the UI.

By the way, your English screams "pajeet".

>>62321426
LTSB doesn't get feature updates and doesn't include "app" versions of programs like the calculator. You can't switch to LTSB without reinstalling
You can upgrade to Enterprise by just changing your product key to the corresponding kms client key and activating with kmspico or microsoft toolkit.

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>>62321459
and botnet

>>62321473
>>62321476
Is LTSB better than Enterprise?

>>62321502
If you're worried about that I suggest you use pre-SP4 Windows 2000.

>>62321519
or pre win8

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>>62321519

>>62321518
If you don't want store applications and don't need WSL which I find really useful.

>>62321502
Read the sentence after the one you highlighted and disable that too. They are even nice enough to tell you specifically what the things not covered by this policy are and you're complaining.

>>62321564
Read that sentence again/
>It INCLUDES
>INCLUDES
Not "LIMITED TO"

>>62321563
>video recorder by raptr
>botnet chrome clone
>discord
>onedrive
>avast
Why are you complaining?

>>62321573
That's why the phrase "including, but not limited to" exists.

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>>62321563
administrative templates > system > internet communication management > internet communication settings

>>62321564
Well, I never use the Windows Store apps to begin with. So long as it has things like Paint and Calculator, I think it would be fine. Some people say it's the Windows 7 of Windows 10. Should I use it over Pro?
>don't need WSL
What is WSL?

>>62316942
If we believe that is actually a girl, then yes she would be legitimately retarded

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>>62321596
Well, it means that it still sends more than just MSRT/MSE data.
In fact it still sends about 11MB after a couple of hours of up time.

>>62321563
>opera
>discord
You have no right to complain about Microsoft telemetry.

>>62321502
Nothing to hide nothing to fear.

windows 7 forever

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>>62321604
Done. You think I don't know that? It still sends a lot of data.

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>>62321646
Ohoo, there's more!

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>>62321563
>>62321596
>>62321625
>>62321646
I like how everyone left out Botnet Office C2R.

forever windows 7

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>>62321707

>>62317084
lies
this is the first one i have seen in weeks
its possible i missed a few but i don't autisticly watch every thread that passes through this board

>>62321717
>typical win10 home installation.png

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>>62321717

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>>62321717
also shit scaling

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>>62321735
LTSB2016

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Fucking incompetents!

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Meme LTSB

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>>62321771
Cucked by the UAC

Ryzen works great with Windows 7?

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I'm convinced this is an inside job by someone trying to sabotage Microsoft.

>>62321771
Is LTSB worth using for an average consumer?

>>62321791
Yes. x86 CPUs work fine with Windows 7.

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>>62321614
Windows Subsystem for Linux. A very handy thing that lets you run a complete cli ubuntu (with other distros to come) environment natively without a virtual machine.

>>62321622
>Well, it means that it still sends more than just MSRT/MSE data.
No, why do you think it means that? I doesn't specifically say that it doesn't but it also doesn't say that it does.
I don't know what exactly counts as system network usage but I imagine it includes things like SSDP.

>>62321640
You already posted this screenshot, I don't care to explain why you're retarded all over again https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/59884623/#59889875

>>62321738
Pic related. No issues. How can you be so incompetent?

>>62321660
>>62321757
Literally never saw that on my machine.

>>62321771
Cortana is the name of the new search UI.

>>62321781
I have no idea how you manage to cause so many problems for yourself. It might be because you mindlessly changed a bunch of things in gpedit.

>>62321796
It's less worse than consumer versions, that's for sure. Still complete shit compared to 7 though.

>>62321796
it's better than pro and especially home

>>62321799
Im talking about Core management and drivers

>>62316047
Way smaller filesize and way easier to pirate

>>62321819
Which drivers?

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>>62321819
>cpu drivers

>>62316047
7 isn't creepy

>>62316555
>0 has a bug which forces the GPU on P0
Not defending w10, but that's something directx does any time you switch between a fullscreen and windowed mode. I've run into bugs caused by it and I've never used w10

truly hope all of you are memeing and don't actually use this piece of shit and then attempt to act better than each other for eating the same shit in different colors

>>62321812
>>62321813
So if I don't use any Windows Store apps or Edge, but still use Paint and Calculator, would it be worth installing?

>>62321835
>>62321837
No ryzen USB 3.0 drivers

>>62321869
Which fullsccreen. Of which application? If it's a game, it's the expected result. My GPU goes to P0 only by pressing the Win key from desktop to open the start menu. Nothing running. What's funny is that the issue is only present since 1607 and newer. 1507 doesn't have this problem.

>>62321897
no, ms removed paint and moved it to store, 7 is better

>>62321796
no it's not, you're being memed by idiots

>>62321922
t. Microsoft

>>62321897
>Windows Store apps or Edge
The only reason to install 10

>>62321902
>USB 3.0 drivers
Those are downloaded from your motherboard's manufacturer site.

>>62321934
Only USB 3 drivers for Windows 10 (AM4)

>btfo'd femanon so hard that it stopped replying to me in this thread count: 2
Feels good.

>>62316881
you read like an Indian support chatbot, i.e. very poorly. That's how I know you're a literal shill.

>>62317748
They are design majors who can't even spell "standardize." They're progressives, everything has to be unique and different and changing.

>>62321897
getpaint.net

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>>62321953
great work goy, you showed them

7fags still need to install another additional tools or a video/audio player just to play mkv and flac
how fucking embarrassing
and that's on top of getting btfo by wannacry, RIP 7

>>62321946
They work on 7 too. Driver model hasn't changed since Vista.

>>62321819
https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc/releases/tag/v0.7.1.81

Windows 8.1 Pro, anyone?
It's basically the sweet spot now.

>>62321968
>you read like an Indian support chatbot, i.e. very poorly. That's how I know you're a literal shill.
Was anything said in that post wrong?

>>62316108
>much faster
but 7 is slower than more bloated than 10

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>>62321998
Trash UI, cloud integration, store.. complete shit. Worse than LTSB

Btw guys I just discovered something, If you don't activate windows 10 enterprise install but then you go into policies and disable the KMS sever, any communication with microsoft about activation ( no need for third party tools ) then while still online your windows 10 is activated and no more limitations or expiration is active lmao.

>>62321972
you have to install them on 10 too because all default programs are shit as fuck

>>62321971
>goy
Joke's on you, I'm not a goy.

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>>62322008
False

>>62321972
>implying the default video and audio player on any windows version is not a steaming pile of shit
>implying we don't have our PCs behind a firewall which completely stops wannacry
Shill harder faggot

>>62322035
compare size of install and memory usage
also
>video games
>>>/v/

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>>62322035
>>62322008
And here are sizes of updated LTSB2016 and 7Ultimate, both x64

>>62319784
im actually really excited for this

i think valve is working on a os that will support all games on steam as we speak
whether that is linux or something completely new

>>62322016
?????
UI is actually better
We all live on clouds now
Disable the store service or use Classic shell
7 is deprecated

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>>62322059
>valve
>working

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>7
>any year
how tech illiterate do you have to be to unironically use this near-decade old piece of shit hat is literally a glorified vista sp3

>muh botnet argument
7 is just as botnet and if you want privacy disconnect your internet immediately because there's no other way you fucking dumbasses

>>62322016
aero is fucking disgusting and if you think it looks good you know nothing about any sort of design let alone UI design

>>62322085
Here is the size of updated installations: >>62322055
Learn how to use DISM

>>62322085
>being a spacelet
>thinking inconsistent icons, UI, and useless whitespace is somehow better than consistent, professional design

>>62322123
Honestly anything is better than the glass meme and rounded corners.

>>62322123
>aero
>professional design
let me guess you thought windows XP aka fisher-price the OS also looked 'good' and 'professional' right?

you're a fucking baby and need a baby UI to cater to your simple mind

>>62322085
>muh botnet argument
fucking retards think that if they deleted two updates, 7 is now safe and private lmao. Also blows my mind that they think LTSB is any good - it's already fucking outdated and not getting any new drivers, and also won't get a new version until like 2020

>>62322085
>caring about space used in the year 2017
haha fuck, are you some kinda poorfag?

>>62322111
learn how to use a decent version of windows neardecadeoldlet

>>62322151
if you care about wasted space and having a slow piece of shit for a pc then by all means continue using 7

>>62322140
>>62322141
>implying I use aero
>implying I used xp's fisher price theme
Classic theme or get the fuck out.

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>>62322140
>>62322141
Good, compact design. Pleasant to the eye.

>>62322059
You do realize how incomptent valve actually is at software that isn't games, right?
>can't even package steam on linux right
>steam is just a webpage
>their app is abhorrent and you have to use it because muh marketplace scamz
>ever since steam came out it's always been a disgusting piece of shit
goddamn

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>>62322168
Shit tier mobile crap, meme tiles and inconsistent garbage made by pajeets

>>62322021
Nope, films & tv opens formats just fine

>>62322162
>classic theme
oh look he's retarded AND autistic

>>62322168
you have no eye for design and it's not compact in the slightest

>tor browser
>mpc-hc
>ccleaner
>utorrent
>vlc
i sure hope that's not your screenshot because it's cancer

>>62322161
>a few gb
>wasted space
haha you ARE poor..wew!

>>62322197
Because this looks good >>62322187 ? You must be blind.

>>62322193
>actually using the shitty built-in advertising platforms

>>62322187
>>62322168
the windows 10 version is more efficient though

>>62322187
>deliberately placing a bunch of useless icons in the start menu
>haha look at how bad it is
I'm not saying that Windows 10 is the pinnacle of UI design but you should really try harder.

>Can't get my ble dongle to read from my ble module in Win7 last month
>Read that Win10 has ble support
>it should just werk
>Do the (still-available) free upgrade
>Fucking BLE still not working

I don't hate Win10 or anything since it technically hasn't broken anything I had going programming-wise, but it sure as fuck hasn't improved anything and the 'app' versions of the desktop progs I have tried all suck dicks

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>>62322199
settle down there poorfag i probably have more system memory than you have storage

>>62322210
>finding shitty screenshots that fit your stupid agenda

>>62322214
Irrelevant when my point was proven.

>>62322187
The taskbar here looks significantly better.

>>62322217
It isn't. As I said, opening that menu ramps the GPU to P0. On 7 it idles on P12.
10 itself is less efficient, uses more RAM too.

>>62322228
haha wew, i have 8tb in my second NAS alone, you're impressing nobody

>>62322250
>It isn't
But it objectively is. You have access to way more programs in one click compared to the Windows 7 version.

>>62322273
>comparing nas storage to storage in your main driver
good job retard

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>>62322224
Those are all my installed programs/games. Almost, rather the most used. Why would I not pin them?

>>62322249
No, it doesn't. 10's taskbar is also buggy as hell and flickers constantly.

>>62322249
There's many things wrong with 10 but at least they got the taskbar right this time. Too bad the same can't be said about the start menu, although classic shell fixes that.

>>62322250
>uses more RAM too.
objectively wrong you fucking retard stop posting nonsense, 10 uses less than 7

>>62322292
>is also buggy as hell and flickers constantly.
PEBKAC

>>62322228
Digits confirm.

>>62322296
>Too bad the same can't be said about the start menu
The start menu is exactly the same if you remove the tiles.

>>62322292
LOL, its not windows 10, your GPU is broken, probably with not drivers installed either

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>>62322274
What? Plus there's no limit to pinning.

>>62322317
>digits confirm
>not even dubs

>>62322323
>can't embed folders
>less information density so you have to scroll more
>no drag-and-drop organization
How is that better?

Windows 10 LTSB masterrace.

>>62322326
You run out of vertical space and hit a hard limit that can be changed in registry but LOL
As I said, you have immediate access to way more programs in Windows 10's start menu due to multiple programs fitting in one row. It may be uglier, but it's objectively more efficient.

>>62322305
7 boots in less than 600MB of RAM. 10LTSB uses about 780-800MB. Out of 32GB.

And no, the flicker issue is well known since build 1507. STill not fixed as of 1703.

>>62322353
enjoy no drivers

>>62322348
>less information density
you mean like all the wasted space in general on the aero interface?

just compare the taskbar between 7 and 10 and you can see how much space is wasted for stupid shit like some awful looking start orb that appeals to the simple minded cretin who still use 7 for some reason

>>62322360
7 takes significantly longer to boot

>>62322348
You're right windows 10 does do those things better tbqh

>>62322356
>>62322326
How about you faggots stop arguing about how many icons you can put in the start menu and just use the fucking keyboard?

>>62322356
At 1440p height I'm not reaching it anytime soon. Plus on 10 I can't pin a .bat file. Or other filetypes..

>>62322328
>62322228
>22228
>2+2+2+2=8

>>62322370
I never said anything was wrong with the taskbar so don't change the subject here. We are talking about the start menu and how it has more empty space than ever before.

>>62322395
Doesn't deter from my point whatsoever. 10 is much better for information density.

>>62322391
True.

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>>62322384
About 5-6 seconds on my system.. Same as 8 and 10.

>>62322402
just asked jesus and he said this is ok

>>62322429
>bought housefire bridge
yikes enjoy your semen TIM

>>62322444
I do, tyvm. AhMeD sucks cock and balls.

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>>62322416
>10 is much better for information density
Come on anon. Windows 10 is better in a lot of ways but information density is not one of them.

>>62322456
housefire cpus and old, shitty operating systems you sure hate technology, why are you even on this board?

>>62322466
to be a retarded attention whore that parrots /g/'s opinions on everything

>>62322484
windows 7 being better is a reddit opinion though

>>62322429
>Femanon
>Intel
lolo

>>62322490
>waaaah everything i dont like is reddit

>>62322498
There is no other c86 CPUs maker besides Intel.

>>62322513
>c86
x86

>>62322513
>actually shilling for goytel
lmao@urlyfe

>>62322513
this is why women don't do tech

>>62322527
I'm not a fan of Intel, but there are no alternatives.

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>>62322542
you serious?

>>62322556
Yes.

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>>62322292
Windows 10 is fine with disables telemetry and classic shell

>>62322556
ivy housefires was probably their first cpu ever

>>62322542
>>62322561
>being this delusional
>actually settling with JewJizz™ tim
This is the last (You) you're getting from me

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>>62322562
No, it's trash. Full of bugs.

>>62322562
>installing bloatware
Nice

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>>62322578

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>>62322604
Complete trash

>ctrl+f Femanon
>44 hits
holy shit why are you so obsessed with Windows 10 you dumb cunt. You post the same images every fucking thread

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>>62322604
>woman
>retarded
pick two

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>>62316047
Yeah, more software works on Windows 7 than Windows 10. There are a lot of applications that do not run on Windows 10 or do not run correctly. I don't see any harm in continuing to use Windows 7 in the year 2017 as Windows 7 has mainstream support until 2020.

>>62322638
Literally no problems, will work fine until 2020 - but you have to avoid telemetry updates tho.

Also if your hardware is new like - released after windows 10 initial release, you'll experience more headache with 7 than you should - simply going with 10 would solve it.

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>>62322634
Point is that start menu search is broken, you retard. A hit or miss depending on the outside weather.

>>62322650
7 is currently supported until October 2021 though.

>>62322654
windows indexing has always been shit.

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>>62322676
Tried rebuilding it, disabling it, etc. 7 doesn;t have this problem, even without indexing.

>>62322692
enjoy your slow, bloated, dated piece of shit that always has been and always be a broken mess

>>62321270

you must have missed the part where MS will install them anyway, and not notify you of it.

What your image shows is how you get a choice to partially uninstall them after the fact.

That's not control over your system.

>>62322702
>autism

>>62322702
Same size as 10: >>62322055

>>62322676
It's not indexing. Search(or cortana now) in 10 prioritizes online search instead of local.

>>62322702
thanks for proving you have no arguments other than memes

>>62322731
theres nothing to prioritize because it cant find shit

>>62322748

it prioritizes uploading the telemetry data of what you put in the searchbar over the actual function.

>>62322748
No shit. It needs to search online first and if that fails the whole fucking thing fails. Indexing works fine. They just went full retard with 10.

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>>62322772
>it works fine
>it actually doesnt work

>>62322772
>It needs to search online first and if that fails the whole fucking thing fails
what the fuck are you actually talking about? Are you too retarded to go to settings and customize the system?

>>62322807
why would you need to customize such retarded thing?

>>62322807
Go figure you can't follow a conversation

>>62322832
yeah options shouldn't exist, you're right. why would you have to change anything ever?

>>62322838
so you're just too retarded to change the settings on cortana, ok

>>62322671
The extended support ( security updates ) ends according to microsoft: January 14, 2020
So you can't even count year 2020.

You've got just 2018 and 2019 - 2 years.


Anyway I find it funny, I've re-installed windows 10 without activating, disabled KMS via group policies and now I have full windows - BUT what I want to point out was that task manager no longer shows dubious cpu usage it's absolutely as expected in every scenario.

Whenever I've used an activator like the latest KMSauto net - it felt like I constantly had either spikes or higher usage than normal.... really makes you think :^).

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>>62322887

>>62322887
>break searching local files [X]
great option indeed, we need more like these, for example
>break next boot [X]
>crash video drivers after opening firefox [X]

>>62322893
7 has support until October 2021 currently due to some editions released a couple of years later compared to RTM.

>>62322923
Sounds awesome then.

>>62321426
>>62321336
>>62316219
Do note if you run Enterprise non LTSB and set telemetry to 'Security', you are stuck on CB, ie no CBB for you.

>>62322671
>>62322893
It is oct 2021 if you use POSReady 7

>>62323353
Patches are interchangeable.

>>62322923

Only thin pc which is 32 bit only or posready 7. wes7 ends in oct 2020. you don't get any extension using ultimate

>>62323314
I have no idea what CB or CBB are. I'm just trying to see whether or not LTSB is worth installing.

>>62322363
>he fell for the microsoft FUD
Idiot. You don't understand how operating systems work, do you?

>>62323561
Current Branch vs Current Branch for Business
Basically you cannot defer updates and wait for the updates to be stable before installing them. You immediately get what Microsoft releases, which might end up being a buggy update. CBB mitigates most of these by installing feature updates a few months after release.
>>62323382
There are segregation between Windows 7 (ie Starter to Ultimate) and Windows Embedded Standard (WES7, POSReady 7, Thin PC) when it comes to packages. A registry modification will definitely be necessary.

Quick question.

Which Windows 7 type is best to use? Ultimate or Professional?

>>62317748
>>62317730
how hard can it be to have one UI? Even if your code is shit as long as you get the graphic files right it shouldn't matter. I can't understand...

how does this OS even run? It's such a clusterfuck, shit thrown on top of more shit, a thousand bandaids on an open wound. Someday I think it's all going to fall apart, they'll release an update and it'll just fuck the entire OS. We'll wake up one day and news websites and TVs will be talking about the update that finally broke Windows.

>>62322224
>>deliberately placing a bunch of useless icons in the start menu
you mean like microsoft does when you install it?
Iirc you had frozen and candy crush saga staring you in the face on fresh install

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>>62325999
and shills try to claim that >>62317730
is bullshit lies somehow

>>62316047
I've noticed that 10 is a lighter OS and works better when doing light tasks. But 7 is better under load, it lags less and deals with intense applications much better. I can be playing a game on 7 and have a video processing in the background. On 10 my game would lag and the video would take much longer to complete.

>>62319835
>>62319784
Does microshit does know how it will fuckup companies?

Dude i work at one of them, and we have like 2-3 specialized programs you cant get from microsoft store on every PC and they are IMPORTANT. And the same can be for other companies.

And then "Sorry but you cant install "special important software" on new pc cus it is not in store"

>>62325760
Embedded Standard 7, same features with Ultimate but modular.

>>62316047
Which version of Windows 10 is best?

>>62327321
LTSB or Server 2016
Enterprise/Education is also fine but if you set telemetry to Security you lose CBB for updates, forcing you on CB.

>>62327441
Are either LTSB or Server 2016 good for general use? I've read that LTSB gets rid of the Microsoft bloatware like the Windows Store and Cortana, which is fine for me, but I don't know what else I'd lose if I installed LTSB. And I'm not sure Server 2016 is appropriate for the average consumer.

>>62327474
With LTSB you lose some driver support. For example the 2015 LTSB does not support nVidia's 1000 series cards. The 2016 LTSB does though. Basically any hardware that is released after the LTSB is released is not supported according to microsoft. Of course some still can, but certainly not all.

For server 2016, you might also lose driver support. I had to modify a Intel LAN driver for it to install(intel artificially removed support so you had to buy the server NIC to run Windows Server). However most of these are solvable through modifying the .inf files and turning off driver signing/turn on test mode while installing the driver. As for desktop experience you also need to modify it a bit to have desktop effects and animations. No store in Server 2016 as well.

Both loses Edge, and new features(except for some KMS versions of Server 2016 on the Bi annual non-LTSB channel). The older LTSBs would naturally have less features than the newer LTSBs, such as some lockdown features which were previously on Windows Embedded. Only server 2016 and future LTSBs will get Linux emulation.

>>62327547
I'm not sure it's worth it, then, because I've had some problems with getting the correct drivers in the past. Does LTSB have the basic calculator and Paint applications, and is it OK for gaming? I've also read that it doesn't get feature updates, and I'm not sure those are worth giving up.

>>62326784
should have stayed on 7

>>62327547
Microsoft himself is making look Linux like a easy OS, lmao why the fuck so many lockdowns? this is worst than vista fiasco

>>62327629
Feature updates require reinstallation to the next LTSB. LTSB and Server 2016 both have the basic applications, and both have DX12 built-in, so no problem with gaming and basic usage.
Feature updates likely would be another app like paint 3D, or night mode. Nothing 'big'.
>>62328269
Not to say the release of Pro for Workstations would further strip the standard Pro down. Non KMS 'customer assurance' windows Servers (eg. bought from retail, came with server etc) will not be able to enjoy biannual feature updating either.
This is the result of Windows becoming a 'service'. It just does not work.

>>62316047
No big difference overall.
7 has less bugs and is slightly faster in CS:GO.

>>62322035
to be fair we gotta say that its windows 10 RTM, meaning the first version of windows 10. later it probably got better with updates

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>>62316590

>ITT: a bunch of retards fell for "le spyware botnetz" and broke their systems through clueless registry and group policy tweaking, as well as installing actual malware in form of various "antitelemetry spynet disabler 2017 PC enhancer Xtreme edition"

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>>62326824
This is the first time I hear this kind of edition that exists. I never heard it before. That's news to me.

I guess I will use the embedded edition instead then. Can you recommend me a good site to download it or is downloading it directly from Microsoft's website fine? tb.rg-adguard.net doesn't have it at all, apparently.

>>62330144
directly through microsoft website.
More info in this archived thread >>58695630 (use an archive like rbt to read)

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>>62330561
Thanks a bunch for responding. I greatly appreciate the linked archived thread, also.

>>62316047
I really like the new task manager, it's pretty much the only reason I didn't go back to W7 when I frist tried out W8. W10 is still pretty damn finicky though, but I haven't really had anything "really" annoying happen since the last time I experienced the stalling updates shit which seems to have stopped happening months ago.