What should I use instead? I was thinking about MATE.
i3
>>62306582
KDE is the ony alternative if you want a full fledged DE. Everything else is either amateurish (Cinnamon) or obsolete (Xfce).
>>62306680
>Everything else is either amateurish
funny you should say that, because KDE is amateurism incarnated
no joke what is gnome and unity?
>>62306888
forget it.
https://renewablepcs.wordpress.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce/
openbox
>>62306950
>last update 2 years ago
>wayland support never
>#! dead and successors want to switch out of it
It was/is one of the top wm. Did developer got bored?
>>62306582
macOS
>>62307015
Probably. I wish it had wayland support.
>>62306614
>>62306680
>>62306916
OP here. I think I'll try MATE. Any tweaks I should make to it out of the box? No wayland support either right?
>>62307015
The developer quit and gave the project to her beta orbiter, who then ignored it because it was ricer garbage and more functional WMs like fluxbox, sawfish, and awesome already existed.
>>62306680
>Everything else is either amateurish
This. It's because everyone else uses GTK or some meme library.
>>62306851
Try a good KDE bistro for a change. Seriously 99% of KDE issues come from bistro grill plebs not being able to configure it.
Except for Discover, but I still have to see a good graphical package installer for bistros.
My list goes like this:
Fedora - don't bother
SuSE - nah
Kubuntu - acceptable, but only atm, may change any second
Mageia - said to be THE KDE bistro but I fear low support
Plebian, Gentoo, Arch, GUIXSD - memes
>>62307350
sad
XFCE
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Solus MATE
>>62307350
>Fluxbox
Hasn't been updated for over two years as well.
>>62307015
Just switch to Sway once it stops being buggy.
>>62307445
>KDE distro
Hopefully this isn't a thing. After a base netinst of Debian, `apt install kde-full` was enough. Not only installs Plasma but all standard upstream programs as well.
>>62306680
>xfce
>obsolete
ok
>>62308101
XFCE master race
>>62306614
just werks
>>62306582
Cinnamon.
whatever this is
>>62306680
>xfce is obsolete
What features does XFCE lack that a fully featured DE does not?
The alt+f2 menu in xfce doesn't have the search system that krunner has, but I usually end up disabling most of that anyway. With a mechanical hard drive, krunner's search slows everything down a lot. The built in calculator and unit converter in krunner are also shit.
In all my time using XFCE since ditching KDE, it's never crashed on my and the only bugs I've noticed are very unusual edge cases. KDE would crash or use 100% of a single CPU core frequently. XFCE is also a lot faster.
>>62306614
When I tried to set my installation folder for steam, the menu was extremely slow, then after clicking ok on the menu, somehow it trapped my input preventing me from being able to even switch to a tty. I use i3 at work because I'm either in a terminal or web browser, but I'm not using it on my home desktop. This isn't the only problem I've run into while trying it.
>>62310253
LXDE
Mate is pretty nice, I have been using it for 2 years now. Thinking about going to manjaro now
>>62306680
KDE is a shitty QT cinnamon, which is weird because I'm pretty sure cinnamon was aiming to be a shitty gtk KDE.
>>62307445
>Kubuntu is anything but shit
Opinion discarded
What's wrong with gnome?
>>62306582
Unity.
>bbut ded
Forked.
>>62311332
Unusable.
>>62306582
Try Enlightenment desktop
https://www.enlightenment.org
>>62306582
Say what you want, but I really love cinnamon.
Wouldn't trade it for anything
It's so smooth
>>62306614
I just can't accept that they moved the navigation, yet didn't make it better
>>62310413
>What features does XFCE lack that a fully featured DE does not?
searching for you applications with the hit of a button
>>62307023
kde user:
>well paying job, College degree
>No girlfriend
>Has a messy room
>Appreciates the simple yet powerful KDE operating system