And so, it hath began...

>>62304031
https://youtu.be/aDthslQMVsU

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Say it.
SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR.
YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO.

>>62304083
CERTIFIED SHIT WREKER

>>62304083
Jim "The Contract" Keller

>2018~2019
>STARSHIP™ comes
>Only 48 cores & 96 threads (not even Zen's final form)
>Will be bundled together with fully completed version of STAR CITIZEN™
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPggCgYK38

Intel is done for.
>The entry right above Threadripper funnily enough belongs to the 1950X’s most direct competitor from Intel, the 10 core i9 7900X. Although notably, when looking at the details of the entry, the 7900X was overclocked all the way to 4.7GHz and paired with four TItan Xp cards to achieve this feat. Which, surprisingly, considering the GPU advantage and Intel’s significantly IPC advantage only netted it a 7 point lead..

WEW

>>62304310
I hope Intel fires all their "diversity" hires and gets their shit together.

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>>62304310
Ayy LMAO. This is especially laughable considering that Threadripper entry was a very simple, preliminary one.

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>>62304310
A daily reminder that yesterday in a "Skylake discontinued" thread there was this one brainless retard that openly and loudly proclaimed that, and I quote, "my i7 7820X easily defeats EVERY RyZen CPU". Yes. Really. Not even 7900X, but POS that is 7820X. This was so goddamn hilarious I'll never forget that shit. Unfortunately thread was deleted before I've had the chance to take a screenshot of that.

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>>62304310
>Meanwhile, in everyday usage 7900X loses even to 1920X
>MFW current prices of 7900X VS 1920X and of their respective top motherboards

>>62304342
What "Intel diversity"? It's full to the brim with Jews.
"Diversity" is friggin' Google.

>>62304511
http://blogs.intel.com/csr/2017/02/annual-report-2016/

>>62304062
Is it on, dare I say, APU?

>>62304575
>He didn't get the irony

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>>62304031
I wonder what the respective temps were

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44 PCI-e lanes? What do you need 32 lanes for, goy? 14 lanes more than enough! BUY MY RAID KEYS!

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>>62304665

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>>62304031
>TR was only 4.17Ghz without LN2

SHUT IT DOWN GOY

>>62304665
Threadripper is surprisingly efficient stone even when at max default Turbo clocks, with consideration of all cores & threads. Nowhere even remotely near temps and power consumption that are on JewFail's side currently.

>>62304790
Maybe its because Threadripper doesnt have fuckhuge vectors for AVX.

>>62304784
And this is a preliminary entry, too. And we must remember this is fucking 3dMark, which is Intel-compiled as fuck.

>>62304811
This, but also rings of bingbuses and MONOLITHIC DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE™ alongside with dried up horse cum under the lid are all taking their toll on JewFail's shit-smeared ass right now.

>>62304823
>which is Intel-compiled as fuck
That's what makes this whole thing even funnier to me. The benchmark is suited more for Intel as others have been in the past at one point or another. And even with this, AMD's pure brute force and compute power allows it to keep pace.

What's going to happen when everything is just as optimized for AMD as it is Intel?

>>62304398
I too lie on the internet.

>>62304310
So... Intlel achieved 7 points more for 2000 dolla more? If not more, I just counted the GPU price difference as I'm too lazy to check mobos and coolers.

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this man will undo all the success of ryzen

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>>62304873
>Four Titan XP = 6000$
>Top i9 motherboard 450~500$
>other shit
>LN2...

>>62304860
>What's going to happen when everything is just as optimized for AMD as it is Intel?
That's the day you win the lottery and gaming drivers for vega finally come out.

i fucking hate indians so fucking damn much

>>62304933
why do you say that? You think that even with all of AMD's success, software designers still won't be willing to optimize for AMD?

>>62304907
Why are Indians so fucking ugly

>>62304945
Are you Nepalese?

>>62304993
Paki

>>62304948
It was just a joke anon, please laugh.

But I'm sure there will be enough optimisation in actual software used for work and productivity. But for the end user and shit like games/benchmarks it's going to be a long time and an uphill struggle. I once went to a game dev on a business trip who were sponsored by radeon for their upcoming release and the marketing director laughed at the notion of amd graphics cards. At least their software stack was in openCL, they had just never tested it on radeon cards outside of end employee machines.

>>62304083
Jim 'The Intel Killer' Keller

https://semiaccurate.com/2017/09/06/intel-foundry-customer-bails/

With Intel’s 10nm process is dead in the water, AMD will pull a complete win next year when Zen2 comes out.

>>62305114
>next year
Maybe for some mobile parts.

>>62305019
ah I see. That's something that anon has to work on now. Their image, and actually delivering with software/driver packages that work. Raja either needs to step up his game, or fuck off. I was an early adopter for the 290X. Regret. Then the R9 Fury after selling the 290X. Regret. Then I said fuck this, bought a 980ti, and haven't looked back. Nice to see AMD got their shit together with their CPU division, but the GPU section is just abysmal.

>>62305124
First Zen APU is already coming out this year.

>>62305130
Honestly they should simply stop selling consumer GPUs.

>>62305157
Zen APUs is still using 14LPP, i.e. it's not Zen2.

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>>62305159
This will kill ATi. Do you want to kill ATi? DO YOU!?

>>62305177
2900xt killed ATi.
Consumer GPU market is 98% mindshare.
And they have none for 10 years.
They should focus on something more achievable, like professional visualisation.
Heck, they are doing it right now.

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>>62305216
No, ATi is still alive, inside AMD's belly. Literal vore.
If AMD kills it's consumer GPUs, ATi will finally die completely. Fuck you asshole if you wish for this.

>>62305238
They need to leave consumer GPU market.
It's barely profitable for them anyway.
Just look at Vega, the margins are razor thin.

>>62305251
>They need to leave consumer GPU market. It's barely profitable for them anyway.
Need I remind you of Matrox and S3?

>>62305266
RTG will still make iGPUs and Pro/compute boards.
Just no gaymen cards.
It will be perfect.
Manchildren will buy nvidia, and AMD won't have to waste money on consumer products.

>>62305007
bitch ass basterd bitch

I'M NOT FUCKING DIRTY PAKI

>>62304083
CERTIFIED

>>62305289
People like you are the exact reason why we can't have nice things anymore

>>62305398
Why? People wanted nvidia's monopoly.
Now everyone should enjoy the monopoly.

Why did Killer leave AMD then, huh?
Explain this ryzentards.

>>62305588

Because mission accomplished.
And TESLA is a different, sexier job.

>>62305588
Because what else would he do there?
Jizz on wafers waiting for Zen to pass the tapeout?
And he was doing management anyway.

>>62305588
>I don't understand anything about anything
He was hired to lead AMD's CPU design for their two new projects. He oversaw both Zen and K12 teams, and those projects were completed. Work had already begun on Zen2 by the time Keller left.
Why would someone hired for a specific purpose stick around when he has nothing to do afterward? Shitposting little child.

>>62305452
>People wanted nvidia's monopoly.
Nobody wants a monopoly. Not GPUs, not for CPUs.

>>62305655
People literally want nvidia's monopoly.

>>62304083
Jim "jew killer" Keller

>>62304083
Jim "the oven" Keller

Jim "Jude Jäger" Keller

>>62304083
Jim " the goyim " keller

>>62304968
He probably looks way better than you, neckbeard/fatty/pimples/manlet.

GAS THE KIKES RYZEN NOW

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>>62305216
Fuck you idiot, they were superior in HD 4000, 5000, 6000 generations. But you fucks still bought nvidia because muh brand. Now you wonder they fell behind, when tehy were never abel to raise good RD budgate thansk to gamers being brand marketing sheep?

>>62309088
HITLER DUBS

Jim "CPUs: stellar" Keller

Jim "mord Juden schneller" Keller

>>62309172
Jim "AMD propeller" Keller

>>62309225
Jim "HOWEVER" Keller

>>62304031
>Ryzen still gets cucked by 6950X
Look at all this AMD damage control.

jim "shoot intel right in the patella" keller

>>62304398
That whole thread was retarded though, the OP started it because he confused Skylake.and Kaby Lake and thought Intel was no longer selling any consumer CPUs.

>>62309292
Isn't that 10 cores?
And 1700 bucks?

Is it true that Tim Keller hates Intel with passion because they bascally killed a project he was working on when he was young?

>>62309495
What the fuck no lol
That sounds like the Nvidia situation

Nvidia hates intel cause they've fucked them over in a past project

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>>62305588
He came
He saw
He conquered

>>62304062
>rapper
I mean, I get that this teaching method works for subjects like history (memorization), but not something like math (comprehension).
>literally kangz
The teaching scientifically proven wrong information is what puts me off though.
Using technology to wrap it in a nice package is just going to make it easier to "rewrite" history to make it politically correct (whatever the current view is).

If you want your children to be taught actual facts only, you're either labeled as a racist or a bigot, depending where you are on the political spectrum.

>>62304921
you forgot the hydro power plant

>>62304968
post your face

>>62304031
>beat by a 7900X

>>62308942
Wut?

>>62309094
Umm...HD 6xxx wasn't ATi, it was AMD by that time.

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>>62309292
>LN2 OverClock 5+ GHz
>1750$
Nice try, Brian

>>62309088
>88
Jesus

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>>62309495
Yes, it was Itanium, on which Jim worked hard and it was actually good initially, under Keller's hands, but InTurd's executive meddling fucked everything up. In one of the interviews which Jim Keller had after he already left InFail, he openly said that he'll never forgive InShit for what they did to Itanium, because it was very perspective and extremely innovative project that could change entire industry, but InCrap 'dun goofed big-time on it all.

>>62309543
Add Fukushima to the right and make it i9, while Chernobyl should be NetBUUUUURRRRRRRRst/Pentium 4

>>62310023
Only in your delusional pink wet dreams, kiddie
Clock for clock even much cheaper 1920X utterly obliterates POS that is 7900X, not even mentioning garbage that is 7820X.

>>62305388
SHIT

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>>62304031
How Intelcucks would ever be able to recover from this (protip: they can't)

>>62309495
Yes, Compaq killed Alpha because Intel told them so (Itanium would be b-better I s-swear).

>>62311737
Oh and Alpha too, yes. Forgot about that one. So it's Alpha AND Itanium which rustled Jim's jimmies and he started loathing Inturd.

>>62311772
Jimmy never worked on Itanium.
He was working on K7, K8, PwrEfficient designs, A4/A5, Zen and K12.

>>62311790
Hmm, really? Probably my memory plays tricks on me, then. Was so long ago, after all.

>>62311806
Yes, really.
Anyway, Jimmy is some quality kikeslayer.

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>>62311718

>>62311718
Oy vey

>>62304031
>His system was equipped with four Gigabyte GTX 1080 Ti graphics cards, 32GB of G.SKill memory running at 3600MHz paired with an Asus X399 Zenith Extreme motherboard. The CPU was overclocked to 4.17GHz, which as we learned isn’t out of the ordinary for Threadripper chips. No LN2 or any crazy cooling was used to achieve this score.

DESIGNATED SHITTING STREET TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON LAND PREVIOUSLY HOUSING INTEL HQ

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>>62312129
Most hilarious thing about this is that, judging by commentaries for that article, it looks like that Threadripper was ON FUCKING AIR. Weeeeeeeeeeeew laaaaaaaaaaaaaads!

>>62312167
Holy fuck
Everyone around me probably thinks I'm autistic I'm laughing so hard

>>62312129
>>62312167
>actually getting the best timeline
wew

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>>62304031
>>62311718
DA SHOAH IS RAEL

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A daily reminder for all kikes ITT that 48 core 96 threaded STARSHIP™ comes into the atmosphere of our planet in 2018~2019, that it will be bundled with fully completed version of STAR CITIZEN™, and that it's not even Zen's final form.

>>62311718
Easily. We already know that core for core, thread for thread, Skylake-X is faster than Threadripper. AMD is on top right now because they fell back on their MAEK MOAR COARS strategy from all the way back in the Phenom II days. At the top end, you're comparing a 10 core Intel to a 16 core AMD. What you're forgetting is that Intel still has an 18 core model that hasn't been launched yet.

>>62312297
>core for core, thread for thread, Skylake-X is faster than Threadripper

See here >>62311116, you buttmad cretin.

>>62312297
>Inlel still has an 18 core model that hasn't been launched
They can't launch a 1200+ W 120+ C atomic oven that will melt any PC instantly. Also that price.

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>>62312297
You forgot to enter your tripcode, Brian.

>>62312312
Where did I ever mention clock for clock? I'm sorry that basic reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Let me explain for you. As you can quite clearly see, I only mentioned cores and threads. It doesn't matter if the AMD chips outperform the underclocked Intel ones, because the Intel ones hit higher clocks anyways.

>>62312361
>Paying more for less cores
>Clock for clock 7900X loses to cheap Threadripper 1920X (which isn't even 16 cores) on 9 fields out of 10
>7900X is much more power hungry and hotter than Threadripper
>Requires RAID KEYS, doesn't support many NVMe

Yeah, I agree, comprehension is definitely not your strong side, InFail shill.

>>62312435
>moving the goalposts
Moving on.

>>62312361
>It doesn't matter if the AMD chips outperform the underclocked Intel ones
He was talking about clocks on stock, you dumb fuck. It's the Threadripper which has to downclock to "match" Intel's clocks.

>Intel ones hit higher clocks
Did you buy that cistern of LN2 for your home already? Good goy.

It's EXACTLY BECAUSE Intel's garbage can't overclock for jack shit and is a literal Auschwitz oven that they have such low stock frequencies in comparison to Threadripper. They CAN'T go high unless you LN2 or FCWCL. i9 is absolute and utter effing TRASH binning.

>>62312297
>>62312361
>>62312459
You were just BTFO'd, kid. Deal with it.

>>62304083
Jim 'had barely anything to do with Ryzen and was working on ARM instead' Keller

>>62312511
He LITERALLY invented Zen AND gave ideas which allow it to be progressing for at least three generations further into the future. Go educate yourself.

>>62312531
lol

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>>62312531

>>62312627
What a happy pajeet.
But I still need drivers for Vega.

>>62312637
http://www.techpowerup.com/236853/amd-releases-radeon-software-crimson-relive-edition-17-9-1-drivers

>>62312647
>nothing about "primitive shaders"
I mean something major.

>>62304083
Jim "anuda shoah" Keller

>>62312654
Wasn't that third-party software's problem and not Radeon's?

>>62312676
What? Third-party software has nothing to do with driver component that invokes primitive shaders.

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>>62304310
>a several billion dollar company is done for because I don't understand how the market works
/g/ never ceases to amaze me

>>62312698
>I am literally autistic because I don't understand rhetorical hyperbole

>>62312698
>He doesn't know how real world works and that a megaconglomerate can go down and be obliterated into oblivion in mere days, there were examples in the past

>>62312698
Stupid Uncharted poster

>>62312698
Not the brightest in history class huh?
Oh well its not for everyone.

inb4 AMD is now Intel and puts their prices out of my ass

>>62312870
There are no kikes in AMD, so no.

>>62312710
Sorry anon, but both intel and amd have enough money and market share that they could release a hundred new processors even if they made no profit
They're not going anywhere, no matter how much you shitpost on /g/

>>62312944
>He doesn't get how stock exchange market works

>>62313201
Water cooled

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>>62313217

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Oh lookie-lookie what I've found.
Beware: this is NOT a photoshop, but a legitimately existing thing.

>>62313217
LN2-only. Won't even POST into BIOS under air or water.

>>62304062
WE

>>62311454
WRECKER

>>62313346
CERTIFIED

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>>62313276

>>62304083
BASED
NAZI
HUSBANDO

wait so its 12th?

>>62313542
Preliminary test on air and not actually OverClocked any (just stock Turbo + a couple tweaks, essentially).
And if you look closely, 7900X is OverClocked to concentration camp oven temps with LN2 to get "7 points above Threadripper". This shit will fall quite soon, because >>62311718. Literal holocaust is imminent.

>>62304062
>distractive methodology
Literally a Clown.

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>>62313276

>>62313567
still, how does the 6950x get the best scores? shouldnt the 7950k or whatever beat it?

>>62313589
>how does the 6950X get the best scores?
Was LN2'd to Fukushima levels long time ago, these results are old as fuck.

>>62313598
ah so its basically destroy your cpu and youll get the best scores?

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>>62313604
And it's also
>"Physical/ Logical CPUs - 1/20"
Geddit?

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>>62313604
Yes.
Meanwhile, the threadripper was in stock clocks.
Imagine that shit LN2 and clocked to their max.
Literally a second shoah.

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>>62313621
That 6950X of KingPeen's had only 1 (ONE) core and thread running when he LN2'd it, while that Threadripper entry had ALL 16 cores and ALL 32 threads enabled. LITERAL WEEEEEEEEEEW.

>>62304310
lmao, this is what happens when you destroy your r&d department for the sake of diversity instead of hiring based on skill. same happens will apple.

>>62313670
>diversity
It's full with Juice, what "diversity"?

>>62304083
Jim "lord of the kike slayers" keller

>>62313647
>disable hyper threading
>cool it anyways with liquid cooling
>literally bruteforcing the only thing that Intel can do right

>>62313722
>Liquid cooling
I mean Nitrogen cooling.
Only for get 4000 points of advantage.

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>>62313748
Well, it IS technically a liquid...Intel shill will actually defend this, so...BUY A CISTERN OF LN2 FOR YOUR GOYMING PEESEE, GOY.

>>62312297

bla bla bla SOPA DE MACACO

>>62313821
UMA

>>62313830
DELID-CIA

>>62313748
>LN2
Literally means Liquid Nitrogen with two nitrogen bonds

>>62313850
>Delete CIA
I can only dream

>>62304083
JIM KELLER
JEW KILLER

>>62314033
>tfw you dream with the end of the CIA

>>62313869
Captain O is on the roll today, I see.

>>62314052
JIM KELLER
JEM KILLER
JEW KILLER

>>62312435
>Paying for cores weaker than Intel Pentiums
Why do AMD bots even try?

>>62304031
Welcome to 2014, AMDbros

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>>62304031
Typical crooked AMD trying to hide the fact their rebranded Qualcomm mobile processors are utter shit.

FAKE NEWS
A
K
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N
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W
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>>62304083
OUR GUY

>>62314589
UMA

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>>62314589

>>62314610
???

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>>62304031
That video is pure cringe

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>>62313647
>6950X beat thread ripper with only one core and one thread
INTEL JUST KEEPS WINNING.

>>62309059
>>62309977
t. Assmad Pajeets

>>62315739
You're gonna need LN2 cooling to even get intel cpus to fucking work.

>>62315868
ok schlomo

Get out, /pol/

>>62314589
>i7-5960X (2014 Intel HEDT CPU) 100% slower than Threadripper at stock

Kill yourself, shill.

>>62317427
>tfw Aryan as fuck

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>>62314567
>>62314589
>>62314610
>>62315722
>>62315739
>Angry/mad kikes

Ryzen is literally Haswell tier perfs. And nowadays they cost the same if not more than intel CPUs.
And it's not even over. A month from now Coffee Lake will send AMD back to the stone age once again.

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>>62318937
>Another madangry kike shitposting to feel himself

>>62318937
>RyZen is literally Haswell
http://i.imgur.com/K92QwvT.gif

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>>62319475
Inturd's shills are eternally BTFO'd. There's absolutely no recovery from THAT one.

>>62313330
WUZ

>>62305588
He gets the job done and leaves.

>>62309088
>88

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>>62304062
Is this a fucking joke?

>>62319884
You haven't seen the one with black Romans yet. And not slaves/gladiators, BUT Romans.

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>>62312297
no

>>62320329
Just ignore him.

>>62319954

the british one?

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>>62311091

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>>62304031
None of you faggots use a TR cpu anyway.

The true crown yewel of Ryzen is the 1600

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>>62309088
>88

>>62319475
Wasnt haswell a rehash of Sandy Bridge?

>>62320701
>when you create a worthy sucessor of that thermonuclear inferno called PowerPC 970

>>62304083
Jim kikeripper keller

>>62305130
>290x
>regret
Just lol. You should have brought a poverty 780 instead.

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>>62318935
Thank you for damage control.

$0.01 has been deposited in your account.

>>62304083
JIM "KIKEBANE" KELLER

>>62304083
JIM "KIKEBREAKER" KELLER

>>62304031
The best pro-intel argument i can come with is "if they survived the 6502, Ryzen won't kill em".
It was a much weaker intel back then, the 6502 did cost literally 7 times less than the intel 8080 and was generally twice as fast, so ryzen will not kill em either.

But at the moment, time to go back and draw something better.

>>62304083
If I delid that off, will you die?

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>>62320701

>>62321552
Actually not really. Sandy Bridge is good. Copypasting started with Ivy.

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>>62322800
>>62324580
>Kikes are mad

>>62324525
Are you an AMD shill or Intel shill, I don't get it.

>>62323106
Jim "jew cutter" Keller

>>62313366
SHIT

>>62327024
Don't you mean "ripper"?

>>62324580
No, my dear merchant, although in your case it might lead to decent temps on your CPU :^)

>>62315868
post it already

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>>62328033
>Decent temps
>i9

>>62318937
Intel wished it had Ryzen's performance/watt, and with a six-core it means the bingbus will just get elongated, actually reducing the supposed advantage Intel has over AMD in that regard.

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>>62328694

>>62328694
There's no advantage. It's all paid/bribed shill BS and fairy tales. Anyone with a level if IQ higher than 21 points can check it personally and will find out that almost all of Intel's post-"Sandy Bridge" era "offerings" onm the market are absolutely inept POS that's overpriced to all hell. And every Zen above 1400X destroys 9 out of 10 those shitty processors of Intel's, by all aspects no less. Starting from the quality of the packaging and presentation, and all the way right up to the everyday performance while OverClocked.

>>62328750
Let's not get carried away.

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>>62328694
>Intel's advantage over AMD
Are you talking about this, perhaps:

>>62328802
I never get carried away. I'm only stating harsh facts of the reality. If you're denying this - you're either a brainwashed zombified shilling sheep or at the very least absolutely inexperienced in regards to this particular matter.

>>62328815
>system with twice the memory channels and moar cores performs better at HPC shit
No fucking way.

>>62328834
OK.
You're definitely not getting carried away.

>>62312361
At 18 cores it WON'T hit higher clocks. The thermals will be insane.

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>>62328815
Inturd cucks ETERNALLY BTFO

>>62313589
Ringbus>mesh, at least for 10-cores and gaming benchmarks.

>>62328694
>performance/watt
Nobody really cares about that. What matters is performance/price.

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>>62328847
>system with twice the memory channels and moar cores
>that costs almost x3 times less

>>62304083
Jim "Intel dead in the cellar" Keller

>>62328867
Perf/watt is the most important parameter in laptops and datacenter.

>>62328867
performance IS performance/watt

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>>62328862
Go and read this >>62313598, this >>62313621 and this >>62313647, Intbecile.

>>62328895
I'm not talking about Intel vs AMD, I'm talking about Intel vs Intel, idiot. The 6950x is superior compared to 7900x in basically everything except price.

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>>62328875
E-T-E-R-N-A-L-L-Y B-T-F-O'd

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>>62328847
>system that performs is better
>the """""(((cumpetition)))""""" is INSUFFICIENT MEMORY LOAD

>>62328889
That's obvious.

>>62328937
Xeon Scalable Family (who the fuck even thought of this retarded naming) will do just fine in HPC.
>>62328942
It's also pretty important on desktop since Intel went full retarded and started clocking 6+ cores REALLY high for no reason.

>>62328920
>Idiot is trying to call someone else an idiot
Oh the irony

>The 6950x is superior compared to 7900x in basically everything
FYI, even cheap 1920X owns 7900X already.
As for that 6950X, it's "superior" only until Threadripper actually starts being OverClocked. That entry is just preliminary, on air and with stock Turbo clocks, you dumb fuck.

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>>62328948
>Just you wait, it will get better, I promise, waaahhhhh!

>>62328964
>FYI, even cheap 1920X owns 7900X already.
AND THAT HAS LITERALLY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU GODDAMN RETARD.

>>62328989
>BWAAAAAAH, STOP BULLYING MY BELOVED INTLEEEEL!!!!11

>>62328984
SKL-SP have been already launched.

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>>62328862
>Ringbus better than mesh
I hope that you do know that i9/8xxx is literal mesh of bingbuses?

>>62329010
>I really think golden delicious is better granny smith
>RED APPLES ARE SUPERIOR
>yeah, fine but I'm talking green ap-
>RED APPLES ARE SUPERIOR, FUCK OFF GREEN SHILL

Seriously, just kill yourself already, you're clearly too retarded to live.

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>>62329014
>SKL-SP
>Better

>>62328948
>REALLY high for no reason.
The reason is that moar niggaherts > moar cores.

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>>62329025

>>62329018
the fuck are you talking about retard

>>62329028
It is.
Costs more though.

>>62329018
Yeah, except any core not in the same line or row is effectively on a different ring, which is clearly not working out too well. The ringbus is better than mesh for low-to-moderate core counts, its only problem is scaling.

>>62329029
>moar niggaherts
Nowadays it corn hertz, man. Back then it was FX which had those, but now Intel fell into that same trap.

>>62329038
>Costs more
>It is
You can only pick one.

>>62329056
>фopcить кyкypyзy внe /hw/
But why?

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>>62329035
>He doesn't know, yet shills for Inturd so hard

>>62329063
It's not a "Russian /hw/"-specific meme, you moron.

>>62329088
It's mostly specific to ruski hardware autists.

>>62329095
It came there from 4chan, you newfag.

>>62329029
>JewFail's cucks actually believe this

>>62319754
Kum and go

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>>62328937
BEE-TEA-FEE-OOOOODD

>>62329014
Isn't that restricted to 2S minimum? Epyc can work alone, if anything.

>>62310980
Jews don't like him and so they'll call him a goy which is a derogatory term for a non-jew

>>62329203
No, nothing like that.

>>62304031
is this the chip that launches Temple OS?

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>>62328948
>>62329014

>"Skylake SP is good, guys! I'm telling you it's better, please believe me!"

>Top Skylake SP offerings:

>8800~14000$ PER ONE CPU
>less lanes than AMD
>less cores than AMD
>lower frequencies than AMD
>less cache than AMD
>lower RAM frequencies than AMD
>restricted to ~1.5TB memory (Epyc can do up to 4TB)
>Oh and by the way, did I mention 8800~14000$ PER ONE CPU?

BUY IT, GOYS! IT'S """""(((BETTER)))"""""!

>>62329292
Stop denying it's better. EPYC is good, but Xeon-SP is better. And it's Intel, it just works.

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>>62329251
Lying is a bad habit, kid

>>62329316
It's NOT better, though.

>>62329316
Can't tell if sarcastic or you're actually sincerely thinking this.

>>62329321
It's 1-2S for Bronze and Silver, 1-4S for Gold and 1-8S for Platinum.

>>62329340
It's written right there it's fucking 2S MINIMUM, you DUMB REALITY-DENYING FUCK. Because they list 1S systems SEPARATELY, if available.

>>62329325
It IS better. It's Intel, it just works.

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>>62329316
>>62329360
You forgot to enter the tripcode again, Brian.

>>62329392
>denying that Xeon is better and more reliable
But why.

>>62329408
Because those times have long ended, you uneducated caveman. It's not anymore at all. Zen is the future.

>>62329408
ahahahahahahahahaghahagahjasghaghahagagha

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>>62329408
>Paying much more for much less
>But why you're not paying, goy?

>>62329420
>>62329421
>>62329446
>denial

>>62329458
Yes, indeed, Intel's shills are in full-retarded denial mode.

So what I understand is Ryzen's IPC is less than Intel's but it has nearly linear scaling with the number of cores, while Intel tanks and goes full Fukushima. Correct?

>>62329482
t. Pajeet
>>62329499
No, Intel also scales decently now. But it's bretty hot, yes.

>>62329499
The IPC is only 5% lower, Intel just clocks 20% higher. 7nm will make Ryzens run at 5 ghz stock

>>62329499
Depending on application, the IPC is pretty much identical. The problem is clockrate, where Skylake/kaby lake is mainly limited by thermals(and thus can hit 5 GHz on low core counts) while Zen is mainly limited by voltage(which means the clockrates stay more or less same as the core count increases).

>>62329499
>Ryzen's IPC is less than Intel's
It's not. It's literally OverClocked Haswell. And Kaby Lake is a rebadge of Skylake, which is a rebadge of Broadwell, which is a rebadge of Haswell. So RyZen = Kaby Lake.

>it has nearly perfect scaling
Exactly. The yields and their quality are also insanely good, ESPECIALLY if you consider that this is an absolutely raw IP made from scratch. Zen 2 will be one hell of a great stone.

>>62304968
I actually laugh every time i see his face.
There is some comedic aura around him,I love it.

>>62329542
>while Zen is mainly limited by voltage
How does it work?

>>62329587
He's a retard. Zen is limited by the node. 14LPP was never intended to clock high, it's a SoC process.

>>62329536
>5% lower
~2% with best binning. Literal margin of error.

And, people, stop mistaking IPC with PPC. Zen has slightly lower PPC, but not IPC. These are not same things. If anything, gen1 Zen actually has greater IPC than Intel currently is able to output even it's most expensive and """""(((better)))""""" CPUs.

>>62329316
Lol what are you smoking i ant some of that

>>62329619
>instructions per clock are different from performance per clock
?

>>62329631
It's just sarcastic remarks, don't feed him.

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>>62329642
There can be many instructions performed in second, but performance per core can still be shitty due to many different factors (like tech-process restrictions and power envelope, temps, and etc). And gen1 Zen's IPC is greater than Intel's currently top offerings on the market, it does more instructions per tact, "losing" only by a margin-of-error slightly lower PPC. Just like that other anon already said - gen1 Zen has slightly lower PPC than Intel simply and ONLY due to restrictions caused by the old tech-process. And even then, considering this, it's absolutely AMAZING what they were able to pull off with such of a restrictive platform as 14LPP nm. Downright voodoo magic, no less. And it's all thanks to Keller's vision and ideas. There will be enough stuff to go on for at least two generations more.

>>62329642
PPC is not "performance per clock", it's "performance per core". I guess they can be interchangeable for some, but I usually mean full performance with one single core (non-parallelized).

>>62329691
He meant IPS, which is instructions per second.

>>62329716
You're not trying hard enough, kid. Try harder.

>>62329292
But anon

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Locked platform features don't matter!
>*NEW* Synthetic loads don't matter!
>*NEW* Burnt pins don't matter!

>>62329716
One clock is faster than one second.

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>>62328750
>>62328815
>>62328875
>>62328937
>>62329018
>>62329292
>>62329446
>>62329543
Somebody needs to screencap all of these and merge them together into one image which we all then could use later in similar threads to remind Intelbeciles each and every time what inept cretins they're all are.

>>62327210
WRECKER

>>62329499
>more cores
Only in applications optimised for multi threading.
Everywhere else Ryzens are behind Intel's price-equivalent CPUs.

>>62330912
Nice try, but no cigar.

If 5GHz Ryzen was feasible I would have bought it in a heartbeat. But alas. Waiting for 2.

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>>62330966
If it's not some moar-cores-optimised benchmark, then ryzens get fucked.

7600(k) cost the same as 1600(x)

>>62331089
>pajeetscript "benchmarks"
Poo in the loo.

>>62331139
It's the same thing on any other benchamark.
Intel has better single core performance.

>>62331089
pentium looks really good

>>62331089
>TechPowerUp
You're actually THIS heavy of a retard, huh?

>>62331501
Can't you just pick another review than doesn't trigger you?

>>62331198
Then post another?

>>62331949
Fucking google it and pick whichever review you want. Tom's hardware, anandtech, guru3D it doesn't matter.

>>62326895
Neither, he just points that Intel will cheat, steal and lie to survive.

>>62332022
>Plenty of reviews
>Is asked to post
>Fucking google them omg wtf bbq

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>>62304083

>>62331575
What's next? PcPer? Tom's? Come on, kid, show me how strongly buttmad of an Inturd shill you are.

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>>62332294
>14/88 BLAZE IT