So, are this new "ironwolf" shitgate HDDs reliable

>>62285004
HGST

>>62285004
> HGST is still the way to go?
You can't lose by using HGST anyway.

>4chan says HGST drives are good
>all the retail reviews are shit

hmmm who do I trust

just get a fucking hgst you dumb faggot
god can't anyone do an ounce of research before coming to /g/ about it

HGST NAS drives are the best consumer drives, period.

When did HGST become the reccomended drive here why no longer WD I do know that HGST is owned by WD but what is the reason is it cost?

>>62285164
look up "backblaze hard drive stability"

>>62285224
Oh thanks for that.

>>62285164
Some HGST drives performance wise are near or on par with WD Black, however they also offer better reliability and longer warranty.

>>62285224
That's a shitastic test.

>>62285004
I bought 2 Ironwolf 6T drives and got one lemon. Not DOA but it was randomly fucking itself. Not terribly good stats IMO.

>>62285164
WD are OK but HGST are better for servers.

WD is botnet. Seagate is the way to go

>>62285462
botnet is a meme
memes are a botnet
sage for retardation

>>62285224
Seagate is trash but backblaze is a shit metric. They don't publish the drive utilization over duration. The results of a drive accessed a couple times a week vs one going 24/7 full tilt boogie are not going to be accurate representations of durability.

>>62285004
it's much cheaper
will be good for anime collection

>>62285004
WD RE or GOLD.

>>62285867
They run a cloud storage service.
We can assume all drives receive equal amount of stress.

>>62286017
stress in a stable environment. not actually similar to regular desktop usage.

>>62285025
Some hgst model are outdated hitachi/wd being badged as hgst or worse refurb harddrive.

>>62286094
Hitachi drives were the best though, HGST bought the IP

Am I a lucky one? I've never had problem with seagate drives. I have a running seagate drive from 2011, still works fine and a running seagate drive from 2004, still works fine.

>>62286206
Seagate being shit is just a meme.

I remember reading about researchers finding NSA backdoors in shitgate HDDs
Is this still happening?

>>62285004
>seagate
>ever
kek

I've always cheaped out and gotten WD drives instead of HGST but getting Seagate drives isn't worth the risk

>>62286094
>>62286139
For fucks sakes you guys. HGST didn't buy anything, and all HGST drives are old Hitachi products, badged WDs or vice versa. HGST is a brand and manufacturing division that WD has to keep around for legal reasons. Or more like WD HAD to keep around for legal reasons. 2 years ago WD got the green light to 100% merge operations between WD and HGST division which means that the actual product lines are either already merged or in the process of being merged. Also, if it hasn't happened already, then in a month or two the HGST brand itself can be legally scrapped by WD in which case HGST may cease to exist. Either way WD and HGST are going to be the same product whether the brand is kept around or not.

>>62286232
I bought 1 seagate drive and it was the only drive to ever fail on me, shit died after 1 year, like 12 months exactly

Also that shit parked like a motherfucker, like every few minutes I'd hear all kinda of high pitched noises coming out of it.

>>62285491
Sage is a botnet.

Bumped for truth.

>>62286814
What model m8? I got myself this shit today:
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST3000DM008/dp/B01IEKG4NE
Am I fucked?

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Is pic related good compared to HGST?
I read some good reviews about it.

Also: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149633

>>62286206
Have had 6 WD Reds in a continuous RAID running 24/7 for nearly 5 years without a hitch.

They're cool, they're quiet and haven't fucked up on me yet. Once they hit the 5 year mark though i am going to preemptively swap 'em. The array sees about 200 TB of workload a year.

>>62286843
I don't think that's it, It was like 5 years ago so I can't remember the model

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I wanted some drive for backlog and hoarding without backups since I already backup my main 2 drives, so I would need a reliable thing to just throw stuff in

Is this okay?

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>tfw no more Samsung drives
>we're stuck with shitgate, Wat De and toshitta
>the only reliable HGST has absurd prices and still has some annoying flaws

>>62287193
>no more alien BWOOOOOOOP noises from the HDD spinning up as you boot up your PC
I don't remember Spinpoints being the best drives on the market, but for the price they were absolutely incredible.

>>62287252
the HD204UI F4EG are pure quality. they're silent and very reliable

>>62287193
>the only reliable HGST

Which one?

>>62287465
i meant company

>>62286206
I have a 120gb WD drive from 2005. Still going strong. 2833 days of operation.

>>62287497
Well, here >>62287166 is 140e while OP one is 137€ so

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>>62286206
It was one run of 3tb drives a few years back, haven't been able to shake the stigma.

2tb barracuda 2016< is the best price/perf of any drive out right now

>>62285004
>shitgate
>WC
>not toshiba

Difference in modern HDD OEM model failure rates are within low single-digit percentage points per Backblaze.
I don't think it matters.

>>62287623
enjoy your 2,5 toshitta dropping like flies

>>62286206
Hard drives in general are more reliable than talking to people on the internet would make you believe. I've never had one fail in less than 8 years.

let's hear about /g/'s oldest and still used drives
power-on time + brand

>>62287732
I have a 11 years uptime IBM drive still werking fine

>>62287641
They had more than enough time to make them as stable as possible. HDD technology is fucking ANCIENT.

>>62285336
>Performance wise the same as a wd black.
So the exact same performance as a blue aswell.
Raid 0 blues here.

>>62287732
67889
Western Digital Caviar SE

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>>62287732
>and still used
here:

>>62287821
59869h

>>62287732
I have a 320GB WD drive that I've been using since 2009, I removed it last month so I could add a bigger drive but if I had more sata slots I would still be using it

>>62286017
You can't publish reliability numbers by assuming half the data. In reality nobody but backblaze knows how often the drives are accessed. The software that runs their entire operation is custom made.

>>62285867
>but backblaze is a shit metric
there's no better one out there

So what 4TB HDD would /gee/ recommend for torrenting?

im stuck between WD Red or the HGST (https://www.amazon.de/HGST-Deskstar-4000-GB-Festplatten-7200-Rpm/dp/B01N7YOH4P)

wat do?

>>62289626
Go for that one nazi sit

I suggest either Western Digital or HGST. They're both the same entity just a different brand name. Usually HGST has a lower rate of failure and longer warranty. It's up to you to decide which you want. Try waiting for HGST drives to go on sale. They go on sale quite often on Newegg.

>>62289538
Just because there isn't a better one doesn't mean its accurate. People need to stop taking backblaze numbers as gospel., their methodology is extremely flawed.

get whatever you want, its always going to be luck of the draw

>>62289626
whatever is cheaper

unless you're going for archiving shit, there seems to be no real need for drives with high URE tolerances.

>>62285004
No one ever got fired for using HGST

HDDs are fine, running one near 24/7 from 2014, its a blue. Never had an issue.

Lost a cheapo ADATA 40$ 120GB SSD after 4 months tho.

>>62285004
I've never had a problem with seagate. I have 2 Seagate drives and they've lasted for years. Every western digital drive I've ever owned has broken in less then 6 months. I have a Hitachi 6tb it performs really real but it's extremely load.

>>62285004
reccomend me a good portable hd drive. thinking of picking up a 1tb seagate or a WD but i'm a noob in computing, someone plz be nice and help me

>>62285004
>shitgate
>reliable

pick one

>>62287732
51503
Samsung HD103SJ

>>62286757
Ultrastars are not the same as WD products fuck right off dumbass

>>62293994
also a wonderful series of HDDs, though they die more frequently in their first year of usage than 204 series

I've never understood this. My first hard drives were 21 MB hard disks 30 years ago. Ever since I had dozens upon dozens, at some time I used 11 at the same time and I NEVER had a hard drive fail EVER.

Everyone is giving WD shit for the original WD RED series drives, they break after a year of use thy say. I had several of them, the first for 3 years now, and all of them work flawlessly.

>>62293994
>Samsung HD103SJ
My poor baby died a few days ago after 7 years of usage. Ironically, it literally died while I was browsing Amazon, looking for a larger additional hard disk.

>>62285491
The ad slinging botnet is not a meme.

It is evil inside the machine.

>>62285004
As someone who has 8 3tb HGST drives, which have been running for about 4 years 24/7. id recommend them.

>>62285004
I have a disk with over 14,000 power on hours and it had 126 reallocated sectors in the first few hours of use.

I don't care about who manufactured it, I use any.

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>>62295927
I'm clocking close to 30000 hours on a WD RED, that's 3.4 years of continuous use, even more than I assumed. Everyone says it's shit that breaks in a year. I have two.

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>>62285004
>trusting seagate
> never

Literally, the worst track record of any hard drive for more than 15 years.

> b-but ... m-maybe they get it right this year?

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>>62286206
You're lucky. I owned 5 Seagate HDDs over ~10 year period. I don't own any today (and never will again) because every single one of them failed without warning. Just tried to boot one morning and they were gone forever, total data loss.

Just last year I inherited a computer with a 2 TB Seagate HDD in it manufactured in Feb 2015, being used as a data storage device. I immediately copied all data off it of interest and gave the drive away. Three months later it dies on my friend, same story. No warning, total data loss.

I will genocide any Seagate drive in my house forever. Literally, my experience is 100% failure rate, and I take great care of my hardware.

In the last 20 years, only other failure I had was a 640 GB Western Digital. Still have a stack of PATA drives in my closet that have been retired in fully working condition because I don't have a system with PATA controllers anymore.

Still have 3 x 2 TB Samsung drives from 2009 before Seagate bought them out and switched manufacturing to China, and now all Samsung HDDs fail at pretty much the same rate as Seagate.

If you want affordable, enterprise-grade storage, pic related and link for current sale:
- https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD5VX9593

hgst drives were good but now that hitachi is dead were in a duopoly. iirc Toshiba also sols their hdd stuff to wd?

>>62297300
I'd really like to buy an 8TB HDD, and those numbers seem to be in favor of Seagate.

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>>62297372

If you care about stability, anything over 4 TB doesn't have enough of a track record yet to take the gamble. Since I have 10 x 4 TB Megascale HDDs, I have the luxury of waiting another two or three years before I start looking at 8, 10 & 12 TB HDDs when there are available statistics that have enough meaning.

>>62297372
8tb is a large failure rate

>>62297430
4TB is just too small for me. I don't want to increase the number of drives I have, but if we're talking track record, this is me:

>>62297115
>>62295927
Lucky streak?

Are SSHD's a meme? If so, why?

>>62285004

HDDs are fucking unreliable get over it. They become commodity goods. HDD vendors have been cutting corners due to price pressure from soild-state media.

It is also getting harder to read/write data on those ultra-dense platters. Disaster recovery is almost impossible on modern HDDs and you are completely SOL with shingled units.

HDDs are becoming the next floppy in terms of reliability.

There's no "safe" vendor. They make shitty batches. Seagate is more pronounced on surveys because they make far more HDDs and any of other vendors that still exist.

>>62297583
They actually work very well, not just in laptops where storage space is needed. I have a 1TB SSHD as my main drive with OS and all the programs I use start almost instantly. Recommended.

>>62297170

Interesting that chart correlates to the number of units each vendors sales.

>>62285004
>"Ironwolf"
>drive is clearly a DM/VX rebrand
Ayyyyy.

Buy HGST, they're usually the cheapest anyway. And don't buy 8TB drives and/or helium drives from any manufacturer.

>>62297756
People who don't know any better and data fetishists use disks larger than 1TB then have a meltdown when it shits and dies because they realise they have stuffed it up with a mountain of shit, not maintained proper archives and mommy is laughing at them as they piss themselves while screaming on the floor.

Stop hoarding, make redundant backups of the actually essential stuff on 1TB 2.5" drives and ffs stop hoarding ephemera. And stop hoarding.

>>62297821
It's all fun and games until a major torrent tracker or file host gets raided. So hoarding it is.

>>62285004
I'm using Ironwolf for one month now. It makes a shitty noise occasionally but it doesn't bother me that much. It doesn't matter what brand's HDD you get because they're all the same shit. Get the cheapest with longest warranty.

HGST is a meme and WD owns it, and if you avoid Seagate because of their one particular model that was shit, then let me remind you of WD Green or HGST "Deathstar".

Like I said, get the cheapest with the longest warranty. I'm waiting for Toshiba to release their upcoming 14TB drive because 10TB will be super cheap.

>>62285867
>fastest rpm
>biggest cache
>chepeast
>longest warranty

What makes you think Seagate is shit when they offer all of this? Mention that 3TB model and you lose all credibility, WD shill.

>>62298225
I deleted all my series off my hard drive, when I discovered a streaming site I can not mention without some retard reporting me for advertising. I'm watching one of those series right now (Babylon 5).

Disk failure is a meme. I have 8yo 300gb disks running in my computer and they're fine.

>>62297821
Hey, without these hoarders I might not ever get access to some stuff I usually look for. Seeing as many sites get hit by the truck of justice and they have to pull out files I'd rather have guaranteed access to some content, and even though I'm not a hoarder myself, I'd rather have more people keeping these files than less. Even if it's unorganized garbage.

>>62297821
>Not putting all your eggs in the same basket
>Not having 2 baskets with all your eggs

Don't fall for the WD shills. They want you to believe Seagate is shit because of that 3TB model that the retards at Backblaze bought thousands of, despite knowing it's a shitty model that didn't work. Buy different brands of a HDD, but try to avoid WD because they do shady shit at amazon/newegg to undermine Seagate.

>>62287193
Samsung drives manufacturing and technology is owned by Seagate now.

I had Samsung, WD, Maxtor, Toshiba and Seagate.

From all hard drives that I owned, 5 have failed within less than a year and the rest have all worked up until now. Guess what brand.

>>62298344
> WD shills. They want you to believe Seagate is shit
So, everybody who believes Seagate drives are shit are WD shills. Got it.

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>>62297170
what about this one/ any good? I really wanna know

>>62285004
this is a NAS drive unless you are running your shitty little box 24/7 don't spend here. also of course unless cold storage.

>>62298442
Explain why it's shit. Go on. Do it faggot. Mention Seagate's 3TB model and I will mention all of WD Greens and HGST Deskstars.

Fucking sad shill.

>>62298278
That is not normie ephemera so it is good.

Unorganized backups are better than none.

But high capacity 3.5" disks are a disaster waiting to happen unless you have a well designed array and don't mind tending to it. Most home users should continually archive and avoid expanding their NAS until it goes pop.

If I had a NAS I would keep the disk capacities minimal to force me to archive stuff regularly.

>>62285164
I received a DOA 4TB WD Black the other week. Plugged it in and the very first data request, the head started clunking. The reseller replaced it smart quick which was cool of them. I'm being optimistic and really hoping that was a 1 in 1000 case. I've had such bad fucking luck with Hard Drives my entire life.

>>62287836
Muh nigga had a Black one as a boot and for torrents gave to a friend

>>62298410
?

>>62287306
HD153UI masterrace reporting in

>>62285164
HGST are Hitachi

>>62287166
I've got two of them (one 4TB, one 8TB). They're still running smoothly and have been for a couple of years (at least the 4TB is ~4 years old).
Can recommend I guess.