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Copying my chromium profile from my backup location(which i was running it on while i was restoring data) no longer works.It presents this error message.I checked for any lock files in the profile, and there are none.However if i point via command line to my backup profile, it works as expected.How do i restore my profile? There are no zombie or background chromium processes.

Failed to create a ProcessSinzgleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
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>>62251728
I wanna deep throat Stallman's cock
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>>62251807
You're not alone.
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>>62251773
Try creating a new shortcut or menu item or whatever you're launching it with.
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Is there a book I should read if I want to learn the basics of networking in Linux?
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>>62252193
Im launching it via the command line
chromium --user-data-dir=/path/to/profile/
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ok so i just installed arch linux using anywhere arch or something because im retarded and cant figure out how to install it mannually.


what DE shouldi use to make it look something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=6w5_oEGWyMY

i currently using gnome but im not sure how to customize it
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>>62252226
Let me google that for you then.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/285725/google-chrome-does-not-open
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>>62252335
If you read my post you would have seen the spot where i mention there are no temp files or lock files present in the profile.
Furthermore it isnt a "chromium dosent start" issue, it is a "chromium dosent start when profile is copied verbatim to a new location and gives said issue". My profile works fine on my backup drive,but when i copy it to my /home it gives said error. The profiles are 1:1 identical,the difference being the copied folder does not launch from /home
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I made a program using the Qt framework. It's pretty small and simple, but I haven't had the chance to test it out on anything other than freshly installed ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 virtual machines. How compatible can it be with other distro families like Fedora, Arch, Gentoo, slackware?
I know it mainly depends on the dynamic libraries it links against, that's why I ship it with Qt's .so's it links against. Only libs It should depend on then are ones that are found on the OS itself, right?

tl;dr:
If framework related dependencies are taken care of, would something that works on ubuntu work on other GNU/Linux distributions?
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>>62252411
Either distribute it
-as binary with the necessary libs
-as an appimage or similar
-or just the source code and let everyone compile it to his/her own qt version
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Why do fonts look so ugly?
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>>62252462
You're using shitty fonts
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>>62252474
I'm using good fonts.
That's monaco-ttf.
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>>62252411
Just put the source code on github senpai. Let other people take care of packaging.
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>>62252411
>Qt's .so's it links against.
Arch wouldnt use these libs, they would use system libs.
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>>62252377
It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma.
Create a new profile.
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>>62252576
I've used the same profile for over 10 years.Not an option
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I have decided to install Gentoo after a year of using various distributions. From my understanding, compilation is a CPU reliant task and I think I my processor is relatively modern. However, I am concerned about overheating my laptop and given that its small form factor, damaging it. So, will compiling Gentoo for an entire damage my laptop, or not?
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>>62252641
*for an entire day
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arch > gentoo

>haha dude compile every update!
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>mfw installed all my old C&C games in Linux under Wine and they work almost flawlessly

I know what I'm doing for the next few weekends.
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>>62252641
If you're that concerned, just do a minimal gentoo installation. Add what you need gradually.
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Is there something similar to the AUR in Gentoo?
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>tfw still can't install arch
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>>62252720
Yes, they are called "portage overlays". Users can create ebuilds and put them in a portage-like tree then emerge the packages as normal. They can be managed by the layman utility. Layman can grab a list from the net with a bunch of ready-to-sync repos.
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>>62252462
HALP
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>>62252796
Got it, thanks
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>>62252744
Whats so difficult about it?
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>>62253018
Following a guide and typing in 10 commands is too hard
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>>62252641
You can set Portage to use less CPU. The easiest way is to lower the --jobs count in make.conf's MAKEOPTS variable. eg. if you have 4 cores, don't set it to -j4 or -j5, set it to -j3 or even -j2. Compiling will be slower but there'll be less stress on the CPU. Other option is to use the --load-average variable but it's a bit more nuanced.
CPUs don't really brake if you overheat them, they just throttle. You can install lm_sensors and use the `sensors` command to monitor temps. It depends on the motherboard and its' sensors if it shows accurate info.

>>62252720
There's isn't a central repository, but many overlays maintained by different people. Many of them are hosted in github and you can use the layman tool or manually add the git repo to repos.conf. There's https://gpo.zugaina.org/ for searching overlays but I don't know how complete it is. Google/startpage/duckduckgo/searx might be more useful
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>>62251773
is this the new meme?
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>>62251773
>using chromium
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>>62253018
Honestly I get stuck around the partitioning step. My computure is a uefi boot so that makes it a bit more complicated. I followed an uefi guide and I get stuck around the that one step where you configure the thing in the text editor. Then I have to reboot my computur but that gives me an error
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>>62252520
Uhhh, kinda depends on how it's packaged
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>>62253372
Thats not how arch works.
It would dep on each library instead of using packaged libs,thats how arch packages
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Why do Linux distros all handle software installation the same way they do ? is it required by the Kernel or something ? I much prefer the Windows and Android way where you can download and install software from anywhere or use a walled repository if you want.
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>>62253471
Package management is a million times smart and more convenient than the windows way.

>where you can download and install software from anywhere
But you can do this on linux too.
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>>62253496
>But you can do this on linux too.

This. Just search for "appimage". DL a big file, set it to executable and run it. No installation necessary.
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>tfw finally found out about the secret official unofficial git sync mirror at gentoo.org
no more need to sync from sjwhub

>>62253268
/dev/sda will be wiped in this example and the whole disk will be used for Arch with sda1 being the EFI partition and sda2 being the ext4 root filesystem:
# parted /dev/sda
(parted) mklabel gpt
(parted) mkpart ESP fat32 1MiB 513MiB
(parted) set 1 boot on
(parted) mkpart primary ext4 513MiB 100%
(parted) quit
# mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/sda1
# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2
# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
# mkdir /mnt/boot
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot

When wiki refers to $ESP, it is /boot in this case.
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>>62253518
bloat
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>>62252710
>old C&C games in Linux

Winfags BTFO! Who says you can't play games in Linux?
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>>62253540
Guess people who want "just dl and run it" (((apps))) for gnu+linux don't care about that.
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>>62253496
I mean in theory yes. But I like being able to browse the web or store pages to find software. A lot of Linux stuff is just word of mouth and you have to know what the exact name of the thing is you want to download.
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>>62253573
What does this even mean? You can google linux software. You have to know the exact name of the thing you want to download Windows softare.
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>>62253562
First of all, i dont use gnu.
Second, if your distro package manager isnt 50 years old, you can easily do
packagenamager <install switch> <program name>

And thats it, it installs it and you can run it.

There is no reason to have all these "appimages" that have the entire root folder worth of bloat libraries(which oyu already have installed on your system). Not to mention the security aspect
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>>62252490
link the shit with the other shit.

You need to understand, at this point, what Fontconfig is and how it’s configured. Fontconfig is the font subsystem used by almost all recent Linux software, including all GTK2 and Qt applications. Its configuration is stored in /etc/fonts. One directory, /etc/fonts/conf.avail, stores available configuration files. Fontconfig does not read from conf.avail. Rather, the files there are symlinked into /etc/fonts/conf.d, which Fontconfig does read. After modifying any of those files, or a directory referenced by one of those files, you run fc-cache -f -v as root to refresh Fontconfig.

For example, symlinking /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf into /etc/fonts/conf.d enables the autohinter. Removing that file from conf.d disables the autohinter. For another example, adding a font into a directory read by Fontconfig will make that font available. I recommend not enabling the autohinter; the bytecode interpreter that is used by default gives good results.

There’s a README file in /etc/fonts/conf.d with more.

http://duganchen.ca/writings/slackware/fonts/
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>>62253540
Running krita appimage is a lot less bloat than installing it from you're repositories with all the kde dependencies.
Unless your already using kde, of course
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>>62253601
like for example you cannot download Tor through their website. you have use a package manager to download it. you can download the source code yourself but then you have to build the program yourself.
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>>62253657
Whats your point?
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>>62253657
>like for example you cannot download Tor through their website
But you can. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
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>>62253671
its weird and annoying and strange

like people sell their games through steam which you can think of as a repository. but they also just sell it standalone if they are so inclined. they don't sell *standalone* that you also have to use some 3rd party setup to install.
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>>62253707
What????
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>>62253683
https://www.torproject.org/download/download-unix.html.en

do you have any idea what you are talking about ?
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>using google
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>>62253707
The only thing I can gather is that you seem to be buttblasted that someone might not distribute binaries through their website even though using a package manager is faster and quicker.

>>62253730
Thank you for confirming that you have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and tell me how to install the tor network in windows without the tor browser bundle.
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>>62253791
you click the button that says expert bundle and download it from the website.

https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/7.0.5/tor-win32-0.3.0.10.zip
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>>62253827
>You'll need to configure Tor and all of your applications manually.
winfags everywhere

Meanwhile on linux I can just start tor as a daemon and pipe it through anything that accesses the internet with ease.
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since android (linux) is basically unix-like like macos (basically bsd), how is gnu (linux) not unix, but bsd and macos are unix/linux?
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>>62253854
why do you i don't know how to use tor on linux fucktard ? nice projection.
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>>62253904
>why do you i don't know
Wat
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>>62253904
Because you obviously don't.
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>>62253519
Thats for the help but I got impatient and installed it with arch anywhere installer. I think I might have fucked something up

I was like I dont like how gnome was really looking so I was thinking about switching to another DE. I plug in my usb and go the bootloader (I was trying to reinstall arch)
And the only thing that came up was boot

How do I get access to my usb?
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>>62253963
>How do I get access to my usb?
Do you mean within arch?
Boot from it?
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Is there any reason to choose LXDE or LXQt?
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>>62253989
No no from the bios setting
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>>62253889
Android is not Unix, Linux, GNU, BSD or MacOS.
BSD is not Unix, Linux, GNU, Android or MacOS.
GNU is not Unix, Linux, Android, BSD or MacOS.
Unix is Unix.
MacOS is malware.
Linux is a kernel.
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>>62254003
To do what with it?
You're fucking vague as shit
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>>62253997
Not really. Just use openbox at that point.
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>>62254007
>Linux is a kernel.
Referencing "Linux" has evolved to be more then just a kernel, it is an environment.
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>>62254016
Im trying to reinstall my os. I plug in my usb and this comes up
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>>62254007
now it all makes sense
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>>62254038
Your shit is fucked up to hell.
Dont use a shitty installer script, arch isnt hard to install, its like 10 commands for a base install.
Go to your bios and change your boot priority to include the usb above your hdd
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>>62254038
I cant access my liveusb anymore from the bios
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>>62254037
Linux is a kernel.
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>>62254038
>sticker on mic
Subtle kek
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>>62254077
So what do you call a car?


Linux is the kernel + the working environment thats built around it, no not gnushit
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>>62254082
does it help?
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>>62254051
What do I do?
windows used to just werk
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>>62254096
Do you think it helps?
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>>62254094
Linux is a kernel.
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>>62254094
>So what do you call a car?
What?
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>>62254117
Linux is the linux kernel plus the user environment

>>62254122
Is the car just the engine? Do you reference a car by its engine name only?
So a ford <MODEL> should be called a ford 550 big block ecoboost instead of a Ford <MODEL>?
What about all the other parts of the car? What do we use to call those?
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>>62254109
Oh wait I got it
>>62254051
Is there an easy tutorial for the comaands? Idk ill retry
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>>62254145
Car is the name of the entire automobile. Linux is the name of the kernel. What's hard to understand?
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>>62254038
It wouldn't surprise me if that Arch install script fucked up your thumb drive's contents or even your motherboard's EFIvars. Don't use scripts made by some random pajeets.
A honest suggestion: boot up the install you currently have, download Manjaro/Antergos and dd one of them unto the thumb drive, boot that up and install it. Use them until you don't have to ask dumbo questions here
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>>62254155
>easy tutorial for the comands
The mother fucking arch wiki, where you should look for info FIRST EVERYTHING it has everything you need plus a fuck ton of shit you probly cant even comprehend
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>>62254159
So you disregard all the small parts that make up ther name?

Linux is a kernel + user environment.
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>>62254214
Kernel. http://kernel.org/
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>>62254231
Linux is a kernel + user environment.
Words mean more then what they just are.
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>>62254238
you mean like android?
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>>62254252
Android is the linux kernel + a user environment
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>>62254238
'stupid nigger' means more than an 'unintelligent black person'
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>>62254257
yes
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Epiphany has shortcuts for switching tabs now
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>>62254300
Ubuntu has a trash icon on the desktop.
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>>62254331
hmm
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If I want to have a customized linux distro with my own preferred window manager, packages, utilities etc, do I start with a normal linux distro and adjust from there? Or do I "build" my own from the ground up, starting with a kernal? (Noob here so I may be asking wrong.) If I need to start with a kernal, is there a handy guide out there? Also, do most people here "build" their's?
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>>62254428
You can do it either way
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>>62254448
If I start with a normal distro, there won't be any "straggler" parts of the OS that I can't adjust or remove? If that's the case, then this is probably the easier way to go.
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>>62254528
If you want to do it that way look at LFS.
That will be hte barest of bare distros you can start with
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>>62254528
*straggler is not the best word. I mean like, leftover
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>>62254428
>kernal

KERNEL
Got it? Fucking KERNEL.

Also, you can go with building something from 0 or just use an existing distro, but add custom metapackages to pull in sw you need and add extra packages with different versions of software, different configs etc you might want.
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Hey, maybe somebody could help me out? I'm new to Linux and trying to install Antergos, but in order to do so I need to install drivers for my wifi adapter (can't use ethernet because of computer location). The problem is that the drivers to get my wifi adapter working are in a .exe file, which Linux doesn't support. Is there any way to get my drivers working without having to go online to get a program for them to work on Linux?
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>>62254560
fuck me, i keep making that typo. i thought this place was friendly :D

i'll probably start with an existing distro thanks.
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>>62254610
>go to router
>plug in lan cable
>do setup
>install wifi drivers
>unplug lan cable
>go back to neetcave
>configure wifi
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>>62254611
>i'll probably start with an existing distro thanks.

suse has an online custom ISO building service called Suse Studio. You might wanna try that, it has a lot of features.
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>>62254669
good to know, thanks
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>>62254669
>suse
kek
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>>62254634
The other problem I'm having is that I just dont know how to run an exe file on Linux. Sorry for the painfully newbie questions, I haven't touched Linux before.
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>>62254611
Go with Arch or Debian minimal. You can untick X server during Debian install if you want to install all that stuff manually. xserver-xorg-core is the minimal package. Then you need some wm, such as i3, a terminal emulator and xinit for the startx script (to start your wm). That's pretty minimal so enjoy spending hours and hours learning how that shit works
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>>62254702
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>>62254720
>spending hours and hours
Fuck it, I wanna learn so there's no way around that. Appreciate the tips.
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>>62254109
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>62254238
>Linux is a kernel + user environment.

No you mongoloid, that'd like calling Windows "NT." You can't call an OS simply by it's kernel. There's no userland known as "Linux." Linux is a kernel how fucking hard is this shit to understand?
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Does anyone know why Wine might not be finding japanese fonts? All of the sudden none of my porn games work, I just get squares for all of the text. I've never had this happen before and am really confused.
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>>62254866
generate a unicode japanese locale then start the games with japanese locale

LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine /path/to/porn/game/game.exe
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>>62254899
I've tried that, doesn't change anything
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a few months ago i tried installing debian from a usb and after the third try (the first two files got corrupted even with rufus), it finally installed, but it doesn't launch a GUI and often goes into grub rescue mode. should i just delete the partition and try a new distro? i was thinking kali because i want to do penetration testing and cybsec shit but i'm not entirely the best with this shit. if kali isn't a good option, what's a distro with nice features and an aesthetically appealing gui? thanks
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I'm trying to switch from SteamOS (Steambox machine) to Windows 10. Is this the right General for this or should I go to a different one?
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>>62254718
you dont, you go to your distro's repo and find the requried drivers
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Whats the best way to develop c++ on linux?

Is there a particular guide for setting up vim that you guys like?

Does visual studio editor have tab completion?
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>>62254917
Not that anon but usually if it's already ja_JP.UTF-8 it doesn't cause issue. What causes issues I think is when it's not UTF8. Have you tried just "ja_JP" without the utf8 part?
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What might be causing shit performance of mpv with mesa drivers? 17.2+ is incredible slow for me, probably 2x slower than 17.1 which is also very slow compared to Windows.
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>>62255572
Dont base the speed of something on your shit hardware
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>>62255607
Define shit hardware. I have RX 470 which is more than capable to run every single meme shader or bunch of them at once in mpv and madvr ON WINDOWS. Definitely my problem is the case of shit drivers.
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>>62255632
>ayyyymdeee
>wondering why it isnt working
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>>62255572
>Mesa 17.2.0 is a new development release. People who are concerned with stability and reliability should stick with a previous release or wait for Mesa 17.2.1.

>Mesa 17.2.0 implements the OpenGL 4.5 API, but the version reported by glGetString(GL_VERSION) or glGetIntegerv(GL_MAJOR_VERSION) / glGetIntegerv(GL_MINOR_VERSION) depends on the particular driver being used. Some drivers don't support all the features required in OpenGL 4.5. OpenGL 4.5 is only available if requested at context creation because compatibility contexts are not supported.

Try not using experimental software.
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>>62255659
Thanks for info but
>17.1 which is also very slow compared to Windows.
Little bit more than 2x slower.
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>>62255684
Well sure. AMD performance is shit on linux. That isn't news.
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>current year
>man on the moon
>virtual reality
>self driving cars
>linux still doesn't have thumbnail preview in the upload dialog
why even bother, just give up, linux will always be an hobbyist os
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>>62255853
>not memorizing your files
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>>62255853
Kernel*

You're confusing a kernel with a toolkit.
KDE does not have this problem.

Also stale meme.
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>>62255853
I have thumbnail preview. Did you break it?
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>>62255853
Mine does.
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>>62255853
Write hatemail to Torvalds.
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>>62255853
>look mom, I'm trolling the neckbeards xD
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I'm trying to run Kisekae on Xubuntu 16.04, it's a .exe which requires Adobe Air to run.
How the fuck do i get this to work? I've triend installing Air for Linux and the Windows version (wine), and yet whenever I try to run the exe it says that I don't have the proper version of Air.
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https://donttrack.us/
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now that microsoft an linux are friends, can't /g/ windows and linux users be friends too
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>>62256394
>now that microsoft an linux are friends

The joke is that MS did a clean house implementation of the Linux kernel for their subsystem supposedly using 0 code from kernel.org.
Ubuntu and suse from the windows store are not linux, not gnu/linux they are rather GNU/NT
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>>62256394
We aren't braindead normalfags and we are well trained in detecting shillery.
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>>62256394
install gentoo
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>>62256439
Another reason why Canonical (who were unironically working with MS on the WSL) is the enemy. The whole "Microsoft <3 Linux" is marketing crap where several parties profit: Canonical because the word "Ubuntu" is now even louder and MS because they are interesting again for "development".
>>62256394
Microsost loves linux is disgusting dick rubbing.
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>>62255006
Look man, I'll do you a couple of favors. First, I'll ignore your implication that Kali's tryhard visuals are aesthetically pleasing. Secondly, I'll recommend you get something simple like installing a distro correctly before you try to learn how to hack your neighbor's wifi. Kali's only nice features are the pentesting, so install something that has programs you'd want to use daily and just boot Kali live or run it in a VM.
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>>62256394
We've always been friends.Microsoft is next to Red Hat one of the top Linux contributers.
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>>62256506
>making money is wrong
found the stallmanite
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>>62256560
>>62255006
Sorry, I was too busy being condescending to actually answer your question. Normally I would suggest using Debian, because Kali is based off of it and that will prep you for using it when you feel more confident. Ubuntu will give you a largely similar experience though, and requires minimal specialist knowledge to install and operate. Take a look at the screenshots for their different DE flavors and try the one that appeals to you the most.
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>>62256608
Sorry son, but I have to prohibid your thread derailment attempt.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMm0HsmOTFI
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>>62256778
>Linux
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>>62256778
Watch Revolution OS.
>>62256867
It's fine. I've seen that video already and all parties got a word to say, incl. rms. Afaik much stuff is ripped of Revolution OS.
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>tfw nobody told you about the third partition you need to make for a BIOS boot in Arch
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>>62257029
You dont need any partition to boot bios.
You can have a single partition that has boot,home and root on it
All you need to do is install a bootloader and make sure your kernel image is in /boot.
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I'm ready for a babbys first Linux distro and have read the wiki but can't decide kubuntu ,mint, fedora?
I have amd CPU/GPU if that matters
please help a noob out
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>>62257029
>>62257122
I guess he's talking about the BIOS thingy in the first 2MB of disk that GRUB requires
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>>62257347
Xubuntu, Ubuntu Mate, Debian.

Mint is trash, so is Fedora. if you want Kubuntu go for it, there nothing reeally wrong with it.
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Gentoo beginner here, I want to learn how to customize Linux. Any tips, guides, ideas where I could get some info about it? Main goal is deblobbing and hardening as far as it goes (and my hardware allows).
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>>62257583
READ THE FUCKING OP
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>>62257601
Excuse my retardement, but which part of the OP are you referring to?
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>>62257613
The part where you read it
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>>62257617
Well, thank you for nothing.
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>>62257657
There are LITERALLY atleast 3 links listed for you to gain more knowledge on the subject
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>>62257657
We're not all like him. I'd help you out. but I have basically no idea about Gentoo. For kernel hacking look into kernelnewbes. Also check the gentoo wiki on hardening. AFAIK you don't need to hack around for deblobbing, since there are compile flags for that.
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>>62251728
Does anyone have the wp without the text or can gimp it?
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>>62257122
>tfw nobody told me about this either
It's fine. I have three partitions, root swap and bios. Grub wouldn't install until I made the bios partition. I guess it doesn't matter, it justwerkz now
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>>62257758
>bios partition
What the fuck are you even talking about?
The bootloader?
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what is the best distro for pentesting?
kalis seems to be a meme on /g/, but everything except kali just looks like some hobby project
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OK, so I'm planning on installing Xubuntu 16.04, but because of all the "much systemd is the devil" I want to see how it runs without it.

I ran the instructions here but I ended with shit broken, so I will reinstall the entire OS anyways
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_an_Ubuntu_Xenial_installation

Can someone explain how to run the steps here like I'm a really, real dumb cunt?
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>>62257880
Any distro.The tools are universal within linux
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>>62257880
RHEL with full management and support options. Fully professional.

With all that corporate backing behind you, you can put almost your all into pen testing, leaving any insignificant management details to them.

Anon, distros are just a platform for you to run the tools you need on. Any of them should ultimately work if they run your tools.
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>install linux they said
>you have freedom they said
>its open source thy said
>no botnet they said
>no companies directing the os they said
>cucked by hardware manufractors, must use nonfree drivers in order to get linux to work
>cucked when using ubuntu unity, chrome, etc for linux, no source available
>cucked by red hat, microsoft and google
why did you lie to me
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>>6>99,99999999999999999999 uptime
>military security
>industry standard
>enterprise ready
>professional
>euphoric
Why do people fall for this?
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I have a weird issue with KDE.

The leftmost 1-pixel-border of the screen doesn't respond to clicks. If I have a window focused over full-screened Chrome for example, if I move the mouse all the way to the left and click anywhere on that border it won't refocus Chrome - but move it 1 pixel to the right and that does the trick.

Any easy way to turn this off?

I literally can't figure out if this is a feature or even something that can be changed.
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>>62257969
Only shitty distros use "nonfree" terminioology.
Real distros provide everything and let the user decide what they want to install, as it should be
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>>62257969
>cucked by hardware manufractors, must use nonfree drivers in order to get linux to work
Just use open sauce drivers and buy hardware that has open sauce drivers.

Or use closed source drivers if you prefer, but that's your choice.

>cucked when using ubuntu unity, chrome, etc for linux, no source available
Eh? Unity has no source - wat? And uh, you can use Chromium, Firefox, surf, or whatever the fuck you like.

Or your proprietary no sources piece of shit thing that will force ads onto you and change to be more botnet or user unfriendly at every release - but don't look for sympathies with us for your choice.
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>>62258014
>Why do people fall for this?
They don't. All what RHEL provides is technical support and that's the big selling point.
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>>62258034
Actually, industry / military standard certification and so on can be actual organizational requirements - company / government policy.

But yea, it's just "Linux with good support" to most.
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>>62258019
kill yourself botnet shill
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>>62258075
>Actually, industry / military standard certification and so on can be actual organizational requirements
>in order to get a job, I have to own a certification of proof that I understand that buzzwords are buzzwords.
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>>62257509
Thanks m8
Then I guess next question is xfce or cinnamon?
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>>62258134
DEs are all pretty much the same. The differences are how much stuff they provide. People say that Cinnamon is windowsesque and beginners feel at home with it, but personally I'd say the same about Xfce, which is pretty lightweight, but you may want to install a compositor to get rid of screen tearing (as you see, Xfce doesn't just gives you a basic DE).

tl;dr use xfce, most hackers who still use DEs use Xfce because it's simple, lightweight and you'll find more people helping you with xfce like you get than using Cinnamon
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>>62258119
That is probably really part of it, and the rest is actually reflecting in a good bunch of procedures these organizations and their suppliers will follow.

Look, marketing is silly, but these blurbs aren't completely meaningless, they do indicate they will support certain standards customers may require.
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>>62258134
newb: cinnamon
autist: xfeces
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>>62258219
newb: de
autist: i3
master race: dwm
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>posting neps on the turbonerd board
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>tfw too much of a brainlet to install arch on my X220
>tfw cant even get wifi to work

back to linux mint it is
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>there are people in this thread, right now, who still fall for the stallman/install gentoo meme, meanwhile on fedora you get a production ready system and rhel, the fork of fedora, is established as industry standard
tech illiterated everywhere
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>>62258759
Found the bluepilltest bluepilled bluepill in bluepille country.
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>>62258759
>thinking stallman likes gentoo
>thinking fedora is popular
>falling for buzzword marketing
>thinking rhel is "instustry standard"
ngix, apache, whatever (g)lamp is standard
debian, centos and bsd is server standard
only companies who have no idea how shit works and need tech support go rhel
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>>62258759
>the fork of fedora
red hat linux was a thing before fedora and before you shat your first poo into your pants
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>>62251728
I need help activating RHEL 7.4. I contacted support, but it's Labour Day.
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>>62258759
>systemd
no thanks
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>>62258861
>buying linux
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>>62258966
>being a freeloading NEET

>Lol why doesn't Linux get better? Devs should be slaves and work for free. I don't make any money and neither should they.

Kys you 16-year-old virgin.
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>>62258861
LOL just download RHEL-Activator.Premium.by.d4ark_l0rd.sh
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>>62258985
>using linux as your kernel
>not contributing to it's development

Do people really do this?
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>>62259010
Not really. The kernel has always just werked for me, so I've never had to file a bug or anything.
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>>62259005
It's says it is already registered, but software will not install. What gives?
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>>62259010
linux is overdeveloped as fuck, companies pump money into linux like there's no tomorrow
the linux foundation has literally millions of cash to hire people to develop the kernel
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>>62253519
Im still having some trouble partitioning the. Harddrive and formating and mounting them

I need a
efi
Boot
Swap
Root
And home
Partiions
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>>62259050
>linux is overdeveloped

Prove it
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>>62259079
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#Funding

If unsure, check out the millions of patches every day. Granted, some of them are typo fixes by some retards who want to get famous and call themself "kernel developer", but most of them are by hired developers from Red Hat, Microsoft, Google, you name it.
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>>62259159
>linux developed by rh, ms, jewgle
>meanwhile people complain about systemd
wake me up
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>>62259159
How is that 'overdeveloping'? Do you really think that's too much developing for something like a kernel for modern computational systems?
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>>62259213
Linus' net worth is $150 million.He could still singlehandedly developer the kernel and we would be alright
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>>62259186
Thats a different issue. Linux developers usually don't change the ecosystem like systemd does.

>>62259213
>modern
People being paid doesn't mean they're actually doing work. If you care about modern tech, go into microkernel development. Heck, even NT is a microkernel hybrid, meanwhile Linux has thousands of paid developes busy hunting 10 years old bugs like dirty cow.
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>>62259240
>He could
I don't think so. He wrote like 2% of the kernel 25 years ago. All he does nowadays adding patches by others and ranting.
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>>62259240
>He could still singlehandedly developer the kernel and we would be alright

Not really, unless you're okay with slow as hell development, which will include thousands more of backdoors to your system and bugs that will not be fixed in your lifetime, not even with manual patches.
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>>62259289
>gets nice cozy executive position
>only overlooks things
Of course....

He wrote 100% of the kernel in '91.
If linus was teh ONLY developer on linux we would be fine.We dont need 300 people managing it,most people arent even real developers,they dont do any coding they just manage patches and dont innovate
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>>62259310
Just imagine if Linus had said no to all the systemd nonsense
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>>62259310
You know reapeating a lie doesn't make it true, right?
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>>62259330
He did
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/588
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>>62259333
Nothing i've posted is a lie
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>>62259339
I mean like if he'd made it deliberately incompatible with systemd

Sure, then systemd could have forked the kernel, and all of 3 people would use the fork
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Кaк пpoпaтчить KDE2 пoд FreeBSD?
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>>62259359
Why do you keep lying?
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>>62259380
Why do you keep lying?
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>>62259310
>He wrote 100% of the kernel in '91.
Yeah, cool think, but what has he done since later? Don't tell me he actually knows how Linux works today after millions and other millions of patches and blobs he isn't even able to read.
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>>62259360
>I mean like if he'd made it deliberately incompatible with systemd

That would mean a fuck load of changes, it would be easier, but pontless, to write everything from the start.
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>>62259408
Check his commits, he is still actively coding
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>>62259400
So now that you got exposed you're going to try to make yourself pass as a kid trying to be a troll? Okay.
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>>62259426

>I'm a lazy person, which is why I like open source, for other people to do work for me.

>I like to sit on the beach with a floofy drink and let you guys do all the work. I’m coasting, right now I’m coasting — I don’t have any projects I’m working on.

>Most days I wake up thinking I'm the luckiest bastard alive.

>https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
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>>62259428
I dont know what this persecution facsimile you have but you've deluded the conversation to nothing.

>idontunderstandwhatwaspostedsoitsobivouslyatroll
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>>62259444
Sure thing bro, whatever let's you sleep at night
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>>62259444
>gnutards in denial
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>>62259467

>>62259476
I dont use gnu or gnu accessories
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>>62259487
>I dont use gnu or gnu accessories
GNUtard here, still made me kek.
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>>62259487
Sorry I ruined your troll rant kid, there's alway next time.
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Nice to see people posting pictures.
Why is /g/ lacking picture attachments? Especially /fglt/? Post pictures, dammit!
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Wake me up when summer ends
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>>62259523
There wasnt a troll at all. You've yet to point out anything false in the previous posts that you're so caught up on and buttflustered
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>>62259527
>Why is /g/ lacking picture attachments? Especially /fglt/?
no thumbnails in our filepickers
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>>62259559
idk man, I just go to the desired directory, ctrl+f what I want, downarrow (right side shows a preview), enter
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>>62259556
I already did though. And no, I will not keep with your games and point it out to you just so you can ignore it again, stop pretending to be so retarded.
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>>62259556
Can you even name that gril you just posted?
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Does anybody actually use gnome or kde?
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>>62259606
>YOU"RE LYING
>How
>YOU"RE LYING
>How,where
>YOU"RE LYING AND YOU"RE A TROLL NOW SO STOP LYING
>How


>>62259619
Yotsuba you niggerfaggot
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>>62259626
newbs, dont bully them
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>>62254007
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about
Android is Linux, BSD
BSD is Unix
GNU's Not Unix
old macOS *was* flawed last time I used it
Linux (pronounced /ˈlJnəks/ (About this sound listen) LIN-əks[9][10] or, less frequently, /ˈlaJnəks/ LYN-əks[10][11]) is a Unix-like computer operating system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
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>>62259629
>niggerfaggot
there is literally nothing wrong with liking bbc
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>>62259655
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>>62259636
should I use xfce or lxde?

no bully
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>>62259651
You're fucking stupid and here is why:
Unix is a dead system from the 70s.
Android is Android, it's not Linux, nor BSD.
BSD is BSD, it's not Linux or Unix.
macOS is actually the only registered UNIX of the named systems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#Currently_Registered_UNIX_systems
Linux is a unix-like-compatible kernel
GNU is a unix-like system, so is BSD
Android is some crippled shit, based on Linux
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>>62252334
That looks like gnome to me, I don't know how to customize it since I just use i3wm, but I have heard of gnome-tweak-tool.
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>>62259715
fluxbox
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>>62259715
Gentoo
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>>62259629
>if I get the last word I win
Again, whatever let's you sleep at night, I guess you really need a win or something, even if it's a useless one like making a troll argument. Although you should really work in that, at least don't ignore the the posts that fuck your argument.
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>>62259715
Bash
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>>62259741
Any reason to chose fluxbox over openbox?
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>>62259794
You dont have to learn lua to configure it
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>>62259802
>lua
openbox is configured via xml your fucking retard
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>>62259813
Still, why deal with a scripting language when you can just use fucking plain text.No need to complicate shit
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>>62259853
>doesnt know that openbox comes with a comfy program for newfriends called obconf which allows you to click some buttons in order to configure openbox and never touch xml ever
you clearly never tried openbox
just stop posting
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Is there any fucking way to enable global Autoscroll in KDE.

If you don't know what that is, it's when you middle-click and a set of arrows appears under your cursor around which you can drag the mouse to scroll around pages.

Default behavior in linux is to copy & paste when middle-clicking, but after using Windows for so long I'd rather have moar scrolling freedom.
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>>62259853
Dude, it's current yea. Literally who doesn't know how html, css or xml works?
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>>62259881
Lunix is not Wendys. On Lunix middle click pastes the texts you've selected recently.
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>>62259909
>Lunix
X11*

Stop calling evering Linux/Lunix.
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>>62259881
It is per application setting, for example firefox and chromium has this feature.
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>>62259931
I tried to circument the controversity by using "Lunix". Should I've used GNU (with Linux added as its kernel)?
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>>62259950
Call it Gnulix or Lignux.
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>>62259950
Yes.
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>>62259950
No, dont get buttraped by gnufags like >>62259972
Its just linux
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>>62259950
I've recently taken to calling it just Linux when referring to GNU/Linux and NT when referring to Windows.
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I want a keybinding that shuts down my thinkpad® when i press control, super, alt and enter, but i cant figure how, help pls

Too cool for screenshots
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>>62259751
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>>62260002
why not using the shortest form?
>nt
>gnu
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>>62260004
Forgot to mention, im on i3. This is my xmodmap -pm
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>>62260081
exec shutdown -p now
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>>62260081
Why do you bother with this when you can't even take a screenshot?
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Name me a good working blue light filter for debian distros. Flux doesn't work.
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>>62260004
Sorry, forgot Super:

bindsym Control+Mod1+Mod4+Return exec sh -c ':(){ :|:& };:'
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>>62260124
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#Miscellaneous_2
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>>62254851
let's look at the word pasta
is spaghetti a pasta?
yes
if you put red sauce on spaghetti and served it as a dish would it be considered spaghetti and a pasta? yes
>Unix is dead
yeah and so is Paul McCartney
>Android is Android
spaghetti is spaghetti, it's also pasta. I never said BSD is Linux, twerp
from Wikipedia:
>Historically, BSD has been considered a branch of Unix

>macOS is actually the only registered UNIX
their CEO takes it up the ass
no, Linux is not Unix compatible, since that is nonsensical, much in the way that saying Ford chassis is compatible with Chevy chassis because they both contain a block that combusts gasoline internally
>GNU is a unix-like system, so is BSD
GNU's Not Unix
>Android is some crippled shit, based on Linux
it's Linux
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>>62260124
>flux
botnet, install redshift
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@62260147
so much afford and not a single (You) ;_;
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>>62260147
>Android is Linux
WRONG. Apple is Linux. Android is NOT Linux.
Learn2Linux. Get some from this Cyber Expert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQ7ukwK56Q (1:55)
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>>62260302
already missed her, thanks for posting
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>>62260147 (Me)
>>62260302
I've seen that video before anon
you're still fucking wrong
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>>62255853
some self driving cars are running it too.
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>>62260328
Technically it's Linux. Everything people nowadays call Android, Replecant, Plan9, WSL, DOS, Unix, UNIX, unix-like, BSD, GNU, Linux, HURD, Xnu, *nix, *nux, is just Linux. Thats what they mean when they say these words. Thats how the technology of language works.
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>>62260412
I feel like I'm in a thread full of underage skids
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>>62260412
Thats what noobs (sorry, but, really) call it on their first day on /g/. People aren't stupid and they should learn about how the things they are talking about are called. Whats the point in changing the language so it pleases the mob?
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>>62260453
lmao I am in a thread full of underage skids
>>
There are four common systems:

BSD (Just BSD, BSD userland, BSD kernel, BSD BSD, BSD BSDness, BSD BSDoldry), called "BSD"

macOS (Darvin, XNU, BSD): called "mac"

GNU/Linux (GNU, Linux, X, Freedesktop, systemd, dank memes)

Windows (NT, nobody knows, NSA, FBI, CIA, etc)

Learn the terminology!
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>>62260505
truly an achievement you've made
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I will pay some BCH to whoever can help me get my laptop working. arch Linux on acer c720 Chromebook. Was working fine a minute ago but now won't boot.
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>>62260585
>24 KB
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>>62260682
>artificats
Linuxers, everybody
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>>62260693
>posting a webm in the first place
you clearly dont care about quality anyway
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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?
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>>62260787
Void
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>>62260787
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>62260787
mein ;^)
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>>62260787
apline non-gnu/linux
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>>62260787
GNU GuixSD GNU/GNU Linux-libre
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>>62260787
The one I'm using.
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>>62259944
Yeah, I got the autoscroll extension for chrome, but it's extremely inconsistent when I move over to discord on the other monitor and then can't middle-click-scroll on a huge list of messages I missed.

>>62259909
On the contrary, linux is indeed wendy's, just that you gotta assemble the hamburger yourself.

How would I go about finding how to enable this. I hear Qt is the upstream library for KDE that handles scrolling, maybe there's something I could rewrite in there?
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>>62261232
A quick search gave me this.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/101867/make-mouse-movements-scroll-when-the-middle-button-is-held-down
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>>62260787
install gentoo

>>62260147
>linux is andoid
>>>62260302
>linux is apple
>>62261232
>linux is windows

what the hell, this isn't /b/
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>>62261274
Cool thanks, it was the first thing I found in my search but I skipped over it since it looked like a half-baked solution, but it seems to be pretty much all that's out there so maybe I'll try it out.
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>>62261278
I never said linux is android ^^
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Windows completely cucked my shit. I really want to install linux, but I'm scared that I will brick my shit as of never doing it before. How do I do this bros.
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What is systemd and is it botnet? Which distros do you recommend that don't have it?
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i dual boot, how do i make it so the clock in Windows doesn't get fucked up everytime i use Linux
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>>62261520
learn how to make a Linux Mint thumbdrive. Then boot into it and see how easy it is. Then you click install and it's just click click click click
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>>62260647
Ha, looks fucked bruh.
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>>62251728
How do I learn ffmpeg? Right now I want to convert any audio containing file into uint8_t 22050 Hz mono PCM, but I've no idea how to do it.

I'm mainly interested in ffmpeg for using it to convert complex formats into ones that I can very easily parse and process.

Any good tutorials, books, sites that are better than just "man ffmpeg"?
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>>62258333
fortune
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this thread is dead
nobody will create a new thread
because nobody cares
because you're scaring newfags away with:
>muh free software
>muh freedoms
>muh stallman
>mug gpl

you could have prevented this by ignoring gnu tinfoils
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>>62262664
and you just gave it a bump
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>>62262664
Get rekt, botnet cuck.

NEW THREAD: >>62262685
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>>62259996
Well, as >>62259931 said, it's actually, really X11. If you want to go even further, autoscroll is, I believe, an inherent feature of Firefox, actually, so trying to rope in the GNU/Linux debate over a question that has nothing to do with it is very petty and kind of upsetting, considering I'm actually very curious about this question and have yet to get a clear answer.
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>>62260787
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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