/twmt/ Tiling Winder Manager Thread

Respond.

>Slightly higher learning curve than most other twms
I think dwm is one of the easiest window managers to use due to it not using fucking Lua or some other inane language or configuration syntax. It's damn simple.

>>62230182
Never used dwm, but maybe they meant default config?

>>62229781
Nice colours and nice track playing!

>>62229781
>at least 5 windows just for music
>LCD Soundsystem: American Dream
>no terminal
>big ass clock taking up precious screen estate

I can do all this shit from inside emacs.

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>>62229781
could go with something dwm-like(tags+small source+automatic tiling) that isnt dwm, updates break most patches like the 'recent' update of the drw code, I manually added the other updates and just skipped that one but i cant see this holding up through the years of using it.

I've looked at a few projects but a lot either dont have tags or have a huge source

>>62229781
Did the mods start autosaging these threads or something?

Shame if they did because these have been the most useful / productive generals there's been in a while

>>62230648
If you're going to have all that shit open, might as well pool it together in a single workspace.

>>62230872
No

>>62229781
>[YouTube] TheAlternative.ch - LinuxDays FS16 - Linux for Experts course (embed)

Nice rack.

>>62231098
Why avoiding "twmg" and specifying it's not a general then?

>>62231282
To avoid the shitposters coming in asking "wow this needs a general???????"

>>62229781
how's the newsbeuter filter?

>>62229781
>i3wm
also don't forget i3-gaps https://github.com/Airblader/i3

>>62231476
Aren't these the same fork now? I think you can just install i3wm and add the gaps lines in your config and it works.

>>62231506
you mean sway
i3gaps ad i3wm probably will be abandoned in favor of the one that supports wayland as default

>>62229781
so i3 is where I go for a noob that wants to stand out in desktops threads? how easy are we talking here

I never understood why so many people use i3-gaps instead of standard i3. You are wasting screen estate.

>>62231727
i3 is so easy. It's a seriously good wm.
>>62231778
Don't act coy. You know way. At least I know why I use i3-gaps, I prefer how it looks. I look at my computer screen a lot so I like to look a way that makes me happy.

I have a pi running a transmission client 24/7 and generally I use the browser to look at running torrents but do you know a cli tool I can use to look at downloading stuff? something I can integrate in a tiling window

Redpill me on i3gaps
Why would you want gaps?

>>62230553
I think whoever wrote the sticky just saw you have to configure dwm by editing a C file and their brain froze.

The WM itself has very little learning curve because it does next to nothing, and you don't need to understand C to edit its config.

You DO need to understand how your distro's xsession configuration works, which I think fucks a lot of people up.

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>>62232095
> Wanting to be happy

Serious question. Why do you all use tiling window managers? I don't see how they could really have advantages over just using a normal desktop environment with side/corner window snapping, and twms only have disadvantages instead (no overlapping).

>not listing stumpwm
>not listing your lisp brothens wm

pathetic op

>>62233480
It's just preference. Have you tried any window managers? Maybe you will end up liking it. Or not.

>>62233133
because you're a closet macfag

>>62233488
>lisp
>not xmonad and haskell

pathetic

>>62233605
People who use i3gaps are closet macfags, or I am?

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>>62229781
Is the new youtube UI fucking up workspace switching for anyone else?
I'm using i3-gaps and compton (with fade transitions) and everytime I switch to / from a youtube page the video and half of the other elements ignore the fade and just stay on the screen the whole time.

>>62233592
I tried i3. I found it pretty confusing, but also inconvenient. I do like the riced look where you have some window laid out prettily, but I just can't see how it beats a normal floating WM/DE for actual real productive work. Quite often for example I overlap windows because I only want to see parts of them, and floating windows let me do this easily. With tiling they'd just get squashed and I'd be forced to see every part of the window, even when I don't want to.

>>62233480
- far lighter than any DE so it's good for toasters
- never breaks down, for the good ones at least unless you config it wrong
- never have to deal with shit DEs that try to tile by snapping shit in half ass ways when a twm takes care of it immediately and easy
- a lot of twms allow for floating as well so really it's just a very light wm without the DE useless shit.

>>62233668
It really depends on what you're using linux for. I use mine for coding really and i mainly have emacs up and fullscreened anyway so i have basically a twm thanks to emacs alone. I don't really use any of the perks DEs give so there's no reason to not just use a very light WM.

>>62233480
Think about how many times you've ever had a case where you wanted 5 windows ontop of each other with the first one overlapping by 40%, the second one overlapping by exactly 56%, the third by 25.2% etc.
There's hardly any cases where floating windows are useful, and in those cases most twmg's let you have floating windows anyway.
The majority of the time you want one window fullscreen, two windows side by side, three windows side by side etc. which a tiling wm makes 100x easier to do, with fast keyboard shortcuts so you don't have to manually drag / resize windows to get them how you want.
Plus the fact that they're much more lightweight and configurable than other desktop environments.
Those are my reasons for using a twm anyway.

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Haven't been on /g/ for a while. Are desktop threads still dead? I miss them

>>62233778
It's like /qst/ and /tg/, mods moved fetch threads to /w/ but people still make them even though it's against the new found rules

>>62233480
This isn't really an advantage, but I would say that if you work in Emacs 8 hours a day, the transition to a twm is not nearly as much of a brain fuck and makes sense. At least it did for me.

I have just installed arch how do i get setup from here do i need to install a desktop environment such as kde first

>>62235269
Read the wiki.
1. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
2. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations

thoughts on chunkwm?

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Thanks for showing me the way. I'm staying with KDE, but I've installed dmenu and binded it i3-style.

Also binded the "Present Windows" to Ctrl+Enter so I can switch without mouse or alt-tabbing.

It's extremely comfortable. Thanks, /twm*/!!

>>62235726
Zero thoughts provoked

>>62233133
>Why would you want gaps?

>>62233480
>Why do you all use tiling window managers?

There are two different answers depending on if you are
a. using it for ricing
b. actually are low on screen space and find it productive

If you're on some 1366x768 garbage and you have more than 1 or 2 windows open, it's actually quite effective, both for the tiling and for the workspace management.

However a lot of people just use mega gaps and floating windows for ricing. I think it's funny when I see someone post an i3 desktop screenshot along with their screenfetch and see they are running some crazy rig with a 2560x1440 or whatever

What RSS feed is that?

>>62238434
newsbeuter & https://github.com/Dither/full-text-rss

>>62229781
i'm using i3 and have got all my buttons working but the volume output is really low, anyone know how to rectify this?
Using void btw

>>62238571
Don't know about Void but you can use alsamixer.

If you have hardware volume buttons that aren't working you might have to add some lines to the config. I had to for my thinkpad. Just google it you can copy and paste.

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reaching comfiest levels where i'm fully satisfied with a stable environment

>>62233660
I don't know dude, I only ever mpv my yt vids
maybe watching them outside the browser can help you

>>62239072
give me your wallpaper

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>>62239154
sure thing guv

>>62239167
thanks

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>>62239154
+ bonus

>>62229781
>galiumos
is that a chromebook?

>>62239072
Definitely needed to use a tiling window manager to achieve this look.

>>62239591
Yes.

So what are my options for Wayland? Just sway?

>>62240112
What about this

https://github.com/way-cooler/way-cooler

>>62240112
>using wayland

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>>62229781
Where is dad?

Speaking of SwayWM, does anyone actually use it? I gave it a shot but it has a problem of random flicker.

>>62233755
What if I genuinely like my current DE but just want a way to tile windows?

>>62231282
they usually die before bump limit anyway

>>62241696
check for tiling shortcuts in your settings, i think most major DEs have them
xdotool scripts otherwise

>>62241641
wayland isn't there yet. there's still like half a dozen problems I encountered. You have to remember that it's supposed to be a drop-in replacement.

>>62241779
Not sure what settings to check. They'll already be set as keyboard shortcuts or -?

Started messing with i3 about a week ago and I'm in love. I'd like an easy way to setup programs to certain workspaces on startup but it seems like theres no streamlined way to do it. Is there another wm that would better accommodate that or should I just stick with this?

>>62242085
>bluring out 192.168.*.*
What a fucking retard.

>>62242085
Better hide that LAN IP address and processor before those CIA niggers find out, amirite xdddddDDDDddd!!1!1

>>62242085
>pol user
>reddit

shocking

>>62241696
You can replace just the window manager with most DEs

slash r slash the red pill

lmao

>>62242485
The redpill is mostly a meme and the "theories" posted are made by kissless hugless virgins

>>62242798
>>>/r/eddit
Red pill use to refer to jews running the world. Now it's secret truths and political belief, and unpopular opinions.

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>>62242798

Most of the theories line up to real-world stuff. Yeah there are a lot of posts that are shit. The stuff on the sidebar is good. The sub was better in 2014.

>>62233306
Yeah. The dwm config is super easy, it's like 100 lines maximum and things are mostly self explanatory if they are not described by comments.
The only thing that has a learning curve is probably implementing your own features in your fork, which after about an hour of using dwm you will be compelled to make.

>>62236655
Someone better give me a (You) or I'll fucking install Vista.

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>>62236655
>Also binded the "Present Windows" to Ctrl+Enter

I'm gonna look into how to do that. Why is your resolution so low? I'm on a 13"-retina macbook, running Gentoo obviously, probably gonna switch to NixOS though.

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i3 or i3+xfce?

>>62243733
You don't really need xfce things in your i3 (other than thunar maybe and xfce4-screenshooter). For me, I started with mapping some of xfce things to i3 keybindings, like switching workspaces on Super+Num, Moving windows with Super-Shift-Arrow for fast tiling, etc, and then just at one moment I completely switched to i3, spent half an hour on making it work my way, and now I use it just like that.

Are TWMs useful on a laptop?
I use one on my desktop but I don't feel like I'd get any good use out of it on a laptop, I use all my applications maximized.

>>62244163
Absolutely, if your hands almost always on home row, you waste minimum time switching windows and workspaces.

>>62233668
If for some reason you need overlapping every wm has floating mode

>>62243733
Openbox + i3

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>>62244502
> window manager + window manager

xmonad is a beautiful piece of software

>>62233480
Because it just works, gives you more of that precious screen real estate (especially useful on laptops) and is light on system ressources for muh battery life
But ignore ricerfags with their gaps, transparency and shit

>>62229781
>Babby's
Baby's

So if I go install arch and just use a tw will I have considerably less problems long term?

Or if I'm just wishing to use terminal and a simple tw It would be better to install something like ubuntu minimal?

Is there any tiling window manager that doesn't hide window titlebars?

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>>62229781
What window manager should I use when I install Gentoo?
I've been using i3 for about a year now and I got bored of it.
My only requirement is that there be a way to set the initial size and position of specific floating windows.

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up you go, thread!

>>62246685
DWM has all that.

>>62247581
I don't have to implement it myself, do I?

>>62247461
thank you...tirno...

>>62248136
>tirno
who?

>>62248148
>not knowing that tirno pic from like 2010 /jp/

Bye.

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page ten save rave

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>>62229781
can anyone make a list of terminal apps that look cool in a tiling window manager?

>>62243801
Well, what would I use for theming if not xfsettings? lxappearance?

>>62250337
Ranger
w3m
Neofetch
htop
Irssi/Weechat
Vim

How do you guys feel about DE with tiling capabilities?
>native or via addon

>>62250410
Fine.
If someone made a xubuntu that came with i3 instead of xfwm I'd keep it handy on a flash drive.

>>62243681
I'm on a laptop.

On KDE, go to System settings. Shortcuts. Global Shortcuts. KWin (maybe other one). Loog for "Toggle Present Windows". Assign a keybind to that.

You can also bind it to the screen edges. That's how I had it before all this.

Besides, when the "Present Windows" is triggered, you can easily filter by letter. So I can do Ctrl+Enter, all windows are presented, then type "f", and only firefox remains, so I can hit Enter again and I'm back to searching for otter porn.

Pretty comfy.

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>>62250473
macOS with spectacle

>>62250544
Eh, I'd take i3 over this any day.

>>62250699
Could do, but I don't wanna put pkgsrc on my laptop. Don't know if will affect battery performance

>>62246658
awesome

>>62246658
i3 without gaps.

>>62250544
That's looks soykaf to use buddy. I installed debian on the macbook they gave me at work. Works a charm. theres no excuse

>>62250410
KDE and GNOME have tiling plugins. Would be nice if a native tiling DE existed tho.

>>62251401
Don't a lot of TWMs come with a panel and launcher? Doesn't that make them a DE? What more do you want exactly?

>>62251653
Accessibility. I'm using KDE because I can easily rebind modifiers (Swedish, need my fancy letters), have a ton of network features out of the box (wi-fi, vpn, etc. configurable with GUI) and a ton of other accessibility bullshit. Don't start with b-b-b-but anon, that's easy to do without GUI, because I don't care. I've done it all without GUI too but I've grown old and lazy.

>>62251708
Installing i3 over an existing DE is not too much trouble. But I agree with you, A "full fledged" but light DE with its own tiling WM integrated would be nice.

>>62251708
>>62251779
Maybe we should write one in Rust?

>>62251779
>>62250410
I wonder why KDE devs don't add a tiling feature. If I managed to make a decent tiling script with barely any prior programming experience in a month, sure the actual devs could create a tiling feature for their own WM they're already familiar with in no time.

>>62252154
see >>62251401 looks like what you want already exists

>>62251653
A DE is more than just a WM + Panel. I mean just look at KDE or Gnome for example. They come with hundreds of tools to manage it and preinstalled software. Even Xfce too. That's what makes it a DE over just barebones WM + a panel

>>62246494
ubuntu messes with a lot of backend lib junk that breaks simple things.

I can't get dwm-6.1 to work with the statuscolors patch on Gentoo. I've tried building through portage, and it just gives errors about NUMCOLORS and colors being undeclared in dwm.c

I've also tried building manually, but that doesn't work either. Any tips?

>>62251779
rtile exists but sucks

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>>62241696
Gnome has extensions for it. Not sure how this makes my life more productive though.

What other programs do you need for a great desktop experience? I'm talking automatic mounting, wifi, notifications, etc.

>>62256650
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>62256650
>automatic mounting
>wifi
>notifications
>etc
those are your search terms for the arch wiki
have fun

>>62256038
KDE has decent tiling scripts, how good are the GNOME ones?

>>62256902
It's all right, I guess, but I still don't understand the appeal of tiling. I guess it's a cool function if you want the flexibility but without knowing why I'd want to do it I can't really give you more than that.

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How do I tile on macos?

>>62256975
I can't be arsed to resize the windows on my laptop's touchpad and the tiling script I'm using on KDE does not get in my way. I can easily float windows or ignore virtual desktops if I don't want to tile, but I usually do. Saves me a shit ton of time and frustration.

what's the best ricing display manager? logging in at the command line just isn't pretty.

>>62256038
>clementine
my nigga

>>62257159
you can rice your tty

It seems like all you faggots use your pc for is listening to music. Just get a phone.

>>62257405
I don't understand why you would get a phone for listening to music. Sub par audio choices, modern phones cost like twice as much as a computer would if all you needed was music and browsing.

>>62257461
mobility

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dwm is easy though, and it's my first and current tiling window manager ever

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>>62257569
>all that unused grey space

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>>62257645
It get used up when only one window

>>62257654
>that wasted space for the tab tree

yuck

>>62257685
>being a spacelet

yuck

>>62257088
Fair enough. I'm on a 20" widescreen desktop monitor and can't see the need, and the constant resizing of windows when open and closing them is nuts. Floating windows are way better in my case.

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>>62257722
t. nu-minimalist

>>62230182
> Lua
> inane

Are you perhaps a brainlet?

Does anyone else change the keybind for i3 to the vim keybinds for window selection? It was the first thing I did, but it's probably saved many small headaches

>>62234633
>>62235428
patrician as fuck

What’s the best wm for MacOS? I use i3 for my linux box at home, but I’d like one for my work mac.

Currently using Amethyst, it’s alright

>>62233480
i use tiling window managers because i hate managing windows, and i think the job of a window manager is to manage windows for me.

dragging and resizing panes to set up a work spaces is tedious and easily automated. in dwm, 95% of the time when i open a window the automatic tiling immediately does the right thing. the remaining 5% of the time i have to hit a second hotkey to toggle the layout

i think "split pane" managers without automatic tiling are totally silly, though

>>62260702
Tried that for like an hour and thought it was shit.

If only macos had something like i3.

>>62262066
I tend to just full screen everything and 3 finger swipe between them

>>62257654
how the fuck do I make my browser look like that

>>62256650
udiskie, networkmanager, dunst

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>>62244502

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>>62264150
all you need is:
>Palememe
>Tree Style Tabs for Palememe
>LittleMoon (for theme)
and just use the customize shit to drag that address bar to the status bar

>>62257159
Unless you're regularly using different desktop environments or have multiple users using your computer, then a display manager is just a waste of time and only serves to slow thing down.

Set things up so that your user account gets automatically logged in, and then X and your DE auto starts. You already have to enter your password on boot to unlock your encrypted drive anyway (you are using encryption, right?) so there isn't any security issue here.

Just switched from xmonad to i3, and couldn't be much happier. I got it to be better than xmonad (which I spent months configuring) in just a few days.

I'm setting up i3 and am i bit confused about setting up transparency with compton. Is there a way to make program transparent while keeping the text opaque?? i also read its better to use the comp-trans setting in config but i cant find any documentation on it

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>>62266467
>>62266467
>Is there a way to make program transparent while keeping the text opaque?

i'd assume most programs don't support that functionality, no
some (most?) modern terminal emulators do support background transparency with a compositor, if that's what you want. the option will be in their own settings.

but, true transparency in a tiling wm seems pretty pointless to me

Here's an example, on xfce4-terminal
i don't have a compositor tho

>>62231778
I don't use gaps but if someone chooses to, I can't really make myself to write a post complaining about it.

>>62238413
i3 is comfy without all the shitty bloat. ofc there are WM alternatives but definately more comfier than DE

>>62266859
what bar

>>62267168
just polybar: https://hastebin.com/ilowagihom.ini

>>62229781
which music player is used in the op image

>>62267427
top center is ncmpcpp

>>62267467
what's the thing below it with the `F1 Output F2 Input...`

>>62267710
thats like the one thing in there im not sure of, sorry

>>62267467
is there a similar music player which doesn't require a server

>>62268681
cmus
>doesn't require a server
it's like three lines to set it up