Will you buy it?

It's literally worse than an iPhone and windows phone combined. Why would anyone buy it at all?

>>62184378
What makes you say that? looks comfy

>>62184393
no apps, looks gay

>>62184336
>Linux on a phone
We already have Linux on phones, It's called Android.

>>62184409
/thread

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>10% of funding after the first week

Let's not pretend that this shit is getting funded.

>>62184409
This is GNU/Linux though.

>'libre' freedums phone
>to connect to a cellular network with

Why are freetards so fucking stupid? You cannot have a 'freedom' phone because using cell towers infringes on your fucking privacy.

>>62184409
>It's called Android.

Android is nice, but we want the entire GNU userspace because Termux is shit. So is Linux Deploy...

>>62184557
Termux isn't shit, it just isn't as good as a proper terminal

>>62184406
They're literally the same apps that are available on GNOME desktop. Nothing is new, here.

>>62184336
Buy a used N900 as a true hacker.

>>62184336
Post Justine's feminine penis.

>>62184406
>no apps
>Full linux distro
Do you have a working brain?

>>62184409
>Android
I believe you meant to say Java/Linux

>>62184570
>Termux isn't shit, it just isn't as good as a proper terminal
Termux can't even write to an external sdcard, it can't use "sudo" and its missing a lot of other shit.

A proper user-space is ideal, not useless workarounds.

>>62184336
Nope

>>62184613
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. Having Termux is better than having no cli

>>62184608
More like JavaScript/Linux.

>>62184531
You can, however, tell the phone to be always disconnected, unless you actually need to be connected. You can also actually disable the baseband processor so it can't spy on you by being connected to the mic at all times.

>>62184557
>>62184613
Install Gentoo RAP for Android

>>62184648
>Install Gentoo
Not falling for this again

>>62184696
git gud distrolet

>>62184336
I'd buy her sure why not

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>>62184409
best post in this thread

>>62184587
>>62184606
So essentially no apps (kik, clover, uber, netflix, memrise, ect), got it.

>>62184531
If you read their page on it, they have the baseband processor separated and with a physical kill switch. It's as good a compromise as you're gonna get honestly.

>>62184764
Holy retard batman, why can't you browse 4chan in a full browser like you do on pc? Why do you need clover? Same for netflix.

>>62184764
>kik, clover, uber, netflix, memrise, ect
A phone poster gone full retard.

>>62184779
>>62184792
Oh sorry I have a job irl. Must be nice being able to gorge yourself on chicken tenders all day while ricing your pedophile linux desktop all day long.

>>62184837
.... Yeah, you're a fucking retard alright.
>installing a browser is ricing
Get off /g/, you don't belong here,

>>62184837
How is it related you dumbfuck? Or do you want compare penis size too?

>>62184837
>whines about software he wouldn't be able to install
>whines about having to install software

>>62184837
>Oh sorry I have a job irl. Must be nice being able to gorge yourself on chicken tenders all day while ricing your pedophile linux desktop all day long.
>ricing your pedophile linux desktop
>pedophile linux desktop

the way you insult makes me believe you work in a tendies factory.

>>62184872
The best part is that he literally has to install apps either way, his job must be shovelling horse shit or something, it can't be anything that requires a working brain.

>>62184779
>full browser
On a five inch phone?

>>62184336
>implying I haven't already backed enough to get one after it's done.

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lincucks everybody

>>62184929
Yes?

>>62184336
This is basically what Ubuntu Phone should've been and it's even using Gnome (soon to be Ubuntu default)

>>62184938
Just stop posting, you outed yourself as a double digit IQ phoneposter already. Save yourself more embarrassment.

>>62184938
>Do you even know who the CEO of apple is?
Your dad? Are you a faggot just like your dad?

>>62184971
Just stop posting, you outed yourself as a double digit IQ fat smelly pedophile neet already. Save yourself more embarrassment.

>>62184985
Oh sorry I set that as my name in clover to piss off macfags and iToddlers in their shill threads but I don't know how to turn it off lol.

I'm buying one.

>>62185014
>I don't know how to turn it off lol.

Wow, we don't see newfag trolls very often...

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

It's supposed to be a "security focused phone" and they want this to get people into the "digitial rights revolution."

They will need marketing resources, and if this is like any other FOSS phone endeavor, I presume they won't even try to market it because as sad as I must admit, the FOSS community is absolutely TERRIBLE at marketing, so it will gain no mainstream adoption and fade into obscurity like the rest of them. They will probably try to rely on word of mouth, but at best that will gain them some adoption in FOSS circles but it will score them no luck in gaining any mainstream adoption because most people don't keep up the FOSS community.

It will most likely only be sold from their website and not sold in any stores on carrier websites or any brick and mortar stores, which means that only some people who are already in-the-know will buy it.

If this even reaches production, based on past observation of similar FOSS smartphone attempts, I don't expect it to last long.

>>62185114
Yeah they need help from a bigger company

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No
Because android exists

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>>62184970
>>62184587
>desktop apps on a PHONE

No. Stop. This. Now.

>>62184775
No, the only good compromise is not using a phone in the first place.

>>62185406
So how do I call people?

>>62184409
>>62185336
The kernel doesn't protect you from proprietary firmware and hardware, such as the baseband:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor
>A baseband processor typically uses its own RAM and firmware
>Since the software which runs on baseband processors is usually proprietary, it is impossible to perform an independent code audit. By reverse engineering some of the baseband chips, researchers have found security vulnerabilities that could be used to access and modify data on the phone remotely
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/replicant-developers-find-and-close-samsung-galaxy-backdoor
>Today's phones come with two separate processors: one is a general-purpose applications processor that runs the main operating system, e.g. Android; the other, known as the modem, baseband, or radio, is in charge of communications with the mobile telephony network. This processor always runs a proprietary operating system, and these systems are known to have backdoors that make it possible to remotely convert the modem into a remote spying device. The spying can involve activating the device's microphone, but it could also use the precise GPS location of the device and access the camera, as well as the user data stored on the phone. Moreover, modems are connected most of the time to the operator's network, making the backdoors nearly always accessible
>we discovered that the proprietary program running on the applications processor in charge of handling the communication protocol with the modem actually implements a backdoor that lets the modem perform remote file I/O operations on the file system
Welcome to the botnet.

>>62185431
A home line.

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>>62185499
Sorry, I actually like the 21st century.

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>>62185562
>21th century
>still using gifs

> call 13053434567 > /dev/null 2>&1

>>62185614
> urandom > call 1334433343

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>>62185613
>using anime reaction pictures

>>62185562
And apparently you also like walking around with a proprietary OS constantly communicating with cellular providers. Every step you take, they'll be watching you

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>>62185377
>desktop apps on a PHONE

Enabling the path for a true convergence device, capable to work as a phone, making video and audio calls, encrypted messaging, email, web browser, that can also become a full desktop computer with an option for a compatible keyboard, mouse, and monitor. It can be a desktop computer and phone all-in-one.

>>62185661
Yes, but please not on a 5" inch screen.

>>62185661
Gnome niggers expects everybody to use touchscreen.

>>62185114
While I'm skeptical that the phone will reach it's funding goal, the company itself seems to be growing steadily over the past few years. Their laptop sales are improving as far as I can tell.

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>>62184336
Can I change the icon theme? Skeuomorphism isn't my thing.

>>62185752
It's gnome so why not?

>>62185752
>Can I change the icon theme?
Yes

>>62185650
sauce

>>62185810
https://snwh.org/moka

https://github.com/snwh/moka-icon-theme

>>62185674
>Yes, but please not on a 5" inch screen.
So, use a monitor, also I'm pretty sure gnome will run everything full screen, like Windows 8 did.

>Gnome niggers expects everybody to use touchscreen.

Not sure why you think only gnome can be installed.

>>62185855
My dream rig is a stable and fast gnu/linux tablet with good battery. alwinner tablets and atom are just POS to run anything useful.

>>62185892
>stable and fast gnu/linux tablet with good battery.
Surface Pro 4

>>62184482

The best thing that can happen to them and the backers is if that fails to reach the goal.

This would be the 3-4th Linux based phone to be attempted, and it will surely fail.

If they truly want to succeed, they should start by simply forking from the failed projects and finish what they started. eg. Mer/Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, Firefox OS, KDE mobile, etc

>>62185892
Purism's tablet should start shipping around December or so

>>62185926
>This would be the 3-4th Linux based phone to be attempted, and it will surely fail.

No, it'll work this time, the phone is affordable and has compatibility with Arch and Gentoo as well. The Librem 5 will even run the obscure Subgraph OS.

>>62184336
>linux phone
>cia nigger backdoors
no thanks

>>62186038
Trolling on /g/, how random!

>>62184336
No i hate tablets they are to me impractical nothing beats mouse and keyboard

>>62184523
Feel free to install GNU then. In fact, it's already been packaged in many different ways for Android.

Example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=champion.gnuroot&hl=en

>>62186038
Linux is a botnet

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>>62186050
>trolling
ah, ok. yeah sure
if loonix were 100% secure

>>62186023
>No, it'll work this time, the phone is affordable and has compatibility with Arch and Gentoo as well

But they'll have their own fucking spin on it rather than work with postmarketOS.

Fuck em.

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>>62186175

>>62184336

does it have full disk encryption?

I'm asking this because the last time i tried Ubuntu 16.04 or whatever it was called, there wasn't any full disk encryption (well, you could enable it for your home folder if you wrote 20k lines of code into the terminal).

Android has FDE
Windows Phone has FDE
iPhone has FDE
Linux phone = idk

>>62184929
its not about size. "full" refers to functionality. if you plug a 5 inch monitor into your desktop you still have a "full" pc.

vaporware phone that will never get off the ground

enjoy your kickstarter scam

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>>62185499

>a home line

Might as well use pic related.

>>62186394
You're wrong. The Ubuntu installer has for ages offered filesystem encryption via ecryptfs (your home folder), and also block device encryption via dm-crypt. And neither of those require "20k lines of code" to configure, and in fact it's better to configure manually just so you understand the basics of what's going on. Clearly you don't understand at all, especially if you blindly trust whatever encryption solution your device offers.

But there already was Linux for smartphones and it was discounted.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch

>>62185474
Muh freedums doesn't protect from no support and shitty software

>>62188765
A literal hardware-level backdoor sounds like some real shitty software

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>>62188831
>on the internet
>complaining about bwckdoors

>>62184336
Only if Justine comes included

>>62187417
>not using a rotary phone

>>62184336
Yes, JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN

To be honest, my plan was installing gentoo on a nexus that's why I buy it, if you have a good touchscreen support and something similar to f-droid I am in.

>>62184336
>HexChat
>IRC
The patrician choice

>>62189094
There's no backdoors in my system

>>62186352
10/10

>>62184482
People put money into the Ouya, you better believe in plebs funding garbage

FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

>>62184779
Anon I hate mobile cancer too but if you can't see why a specially made app for mobile built using a UI framework meant for touch is better than a html page in a browser you're retarded.

>>62195496
Just because it was meant to be better doesn't mean it is better.

>>62195545
It is though

>>62195600
I'll happily stick to my browser.

>>62184336
No, I need a phone that actually works

When is the release date?

>>62185929
A tablet sounds interesting. I've been meaning to get a tablet at some point but the software has been a problem. I don't want locked down dummy mode iOS and Android tablets stop getting updates after you bring them home from the store. Maybe this one would keep getting updates forever.

A phone is more difficult to change since it's used for everything and limiting the amount of apps is a handicap. A tablet would only be used for browsing and reading and watching videos, anything with a screen can do that.

>>62184336
>doesn't run BB10OS
>doesn't have a keyboard
Nah

>>62184648
>You can, however, tell the phone to be always disconnected, unless you actually need to be connected. You can also actually disable the baseband processor so it can't spy on you by being connected to the mic at all times.

Why even have a smartphone in the first place? At that point your probably better of having a dumbphone a tablet with loonix or libreboot freetard thinkpad.

Also being paranoid over the mic being turned on all the time is such a burger thing to be stressed about. I can't confirm nor deny that they don't do this here in the EU, but the privacy policies here are extremely strict so even if they here something they don't like there's almost nothing they can do about it.

Another tiny tidbit about the latter. In Croatia almost all video or audio material that has been taken without your permission no matter who recorded it can't be used against you as evidence in court.

>>62192571
Gaymers are fucking retarded though. Didn't they give like $30mil to some space game?

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>>62185613
(You)

>>62195831
150, and it's been in alpha for 5 years. 3.0 alpha update have been delayed by over a year and still isn't out, it shits itself when there are more than 10 players and promised features get canceled left and right.

>>62195831
Scamcitizen is coming along nicely, it's the most ambitious game of all time.

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>>62186038
That reminds me.
>Gnome
Son of a bitch, this phone has systemd doesn't it?

>>62195979
You can run GNOME without systemdicks, that doesn't meant he phone doesn't have it though.

>>62184336
why do they show some normalfags on video chat? Those people are never going to buy this phone

>>62196130
>normies won't ever buy it
They said that about Android too.

The whole Purism ecosystem is a terrible approach to

Why make a completely new phone OS that will never get any support from anything whatsoever instead of working on Android? Android is open source and is pretty much universal at this point. All they would have to focus on is hardware and a TWRP-like bios.

On the topic of hardware, why do all the purism laptops use modern intel processors? Isn't the point of the lifestyle they are trying to push that everything is "free"? It doesn't matter if both the bootloader and OS is free if you can't be sure that the microcode on the hardware will fuck you up in the end.

I'd love for them to succeed, but this isn't the right attempt.

>>62184336
If it gets released I just might. I'm worried about GNOME though.

>>62195979
Sounds like it's time to install gentoo

>>62185614
>>62185643
kek

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>>62184764
tfw no kik-purple for pidgin to use for chatting with idiot "friends"

>>62185014
>hates macs
>hates linux
wangblows user detected. This is the state of /g/ now...

>>62186023

>will run Subgraph OS
as far as I know they explicitly stated it won't run subgraph.

>>62184336
>gui
no

i better like calling my mum by
cd /usr/src/dial
./configure NUMBER="0123456789"
make -j9 -march=native -pipe -Os -funroll-all-loops
sudo make install
sudo dial

>>62184482
This is sad.

>$600 for a gay ass Linux phone
No thank you at this price point you may as well just get an apple phone and STILL get more usability out of it than this piece of shit

>>62198623
>iOS
>more usable than GNU
HAHAHAHA

>>62198915
Yes it is very funny at how much a mobile os excels than a crappy desktop OS you have to baby yourself.

>>62198984
>crappy desktop OS
t. retarded pajeet

>>62196671
They have worked with a team to scrub the Intel Management Engine from the processors. From what I can tell, about 98% can currently be removed. Yes, 98% isn't 100%, but it certainly limits what someone can do. And there are efforts to remove the remaining few percent.

>>62199030
Don't you have a distro to rice, monkey?
Or are you shitposting from a Windows computer while you finish updating your arch repo?

>>62196671
Additionally, I wouldn't say it's a "completely new" phone OS. Assuming it is (or spins off from) their PureOS (which is basically Debian as far as I can tell), then you just have a Linux distro on a touch screen. As long as Linux developers make stuff for touchscreens, you have access to it

@62199052
I'm posting from android/linux, iPoor

The costs that would be needed to develop a full OS and ecosystem(especially since they are adamant they dont wanna reuse any code from other projects) are way bigger than what purism is saying.

Also:
>Gnome+Gtk on a phone;

Even more work.

>>62199448
This. They should've just pushed KDE plasma mobile.

>>62198915
*Linux

>>62184336
I think most criticisms of trying to reinvent the wheel are a bit too harsh. I mean, yes there is something to be said about doing _everything_ from scratch, but there could also be value in getting their own products to be more consistent with each other, as it allows them to (in the future) be able to deisgn a better system that hopefully just works for the normies. And they also try to work with existing things (PureOS is based off debian, and they are collaborating with Matrix for the phone).

That said, I do think they need to do more work. On the hardware side, the laptop processors still have the proprietary Intel ME, and the last time I checked, most phone hardware is a nightmare for open source drivers.

On the software side, I feel like PureOS needs to be good for normies, but I feel like they could be forgiven for the first few releases since they are quite new and still need to further know the target market.

>>62185431
>not having phone
>compromise

>>62184893
>>62184906
>implying he has a job
>implying he isn't just another worthless NEET