/pcbg/ - PC Building General

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/dD2LZ8
What PSU should I get with this? The one that's listed is a stand-in for the one I have right now (be quiet system power 7, 80+ bronze 350W), and I think it could just about do for this build, but probably not with an overclock.
Also if I fucked something up, feel free to tell me. I just ordered all of it but I could always cancel the orders. The storage I already had from before.

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An uncle installed an unactivated copy of windows 10 that doesn't update I don't know the details and I can't talk with him right now ,what do I have to do with it when I change everything but my HDDs?

>>62184246
W10 should update even if you haven't activated it. Unless you're talking about LTSB maybe?

I'm doing a build for my MIL who only uses the PC to check Facebook and buy shit off Amazon, with some Netflix thrown in. It's going to run Windows 7. Is 4GB of RAM enough or should I bump it to 8GB?

>GTX 1060 6GB for $240
I shouldn't be debating this.

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Should I replace my 270X with a 90€ RX560 while waiting for rx stocks to replenish?

>>62184435
I almost bought one, but the jump from a 1050Ti just wasn't worth it with those inflated prices. 135€ for the Ti vs 230 for the 1060. I hate miners.

>>62184417
4 should be enough, assuming she doesn't have/installs several background programs that hog memory, or likes to leave 100 Chrome tabs open like some people do.

>>62184411
I cheked in the registry it's not ltsb but it's somehow been made to stay at version 1511 and it's not activated because I have the watermark

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Explain yourselves.

>>62184625
now show me the graph of average fps per dollar

>>62184625
That's the benchmark for the Destiny 2 Beta. Which they bitched about the game not using AMD's SMT which would drastically improve performance.

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>>62184625
>We'll make it use all cores!
>We forgot to mention it's just for Intel

>>62184625 Its a beta, and made in part by activision, the console cucklord. Did you actually expect them to optimize for shit?

I think i'm done, do i pull the trigger on this lads?

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 HYBRID GAMING Video Card

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>>62184713
>beta
It's called a time-limited demo you stupid fuck. When will this fucking meme end.

When did /pcbg/ become /r/intel and /r/nvidia?

R5 1600 or i5 7600k for gaming? Probably alongside 1060 3gb.

Is ryzen 5 such a huge upgrade to warrant the 100 dollar price bump over ryzen 3? I mean, if you're on a budget

>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
>outdated
Why? What has changed?

>>62184999
Don't get a 3gb.

>>62184899
Even the creators say it's a limited time BETA. Not a demo.

>>62184999
R5 1600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RMbYe4X2LI

>>62184968
>When did /pcbg/ become /r/intel
never, this thread is a ryzen dicksucking contest

>>62184625
>>62184084
Interesting, logical increments says either amd or intel, tomshardware says intel, AMD shill on /g/ says AMD... I don't know who to believe.

>>62185149
Beta has lost all of its meaning. It's either a demo or paid demo you get with pre ordering.

>>62185149
that's the point he was making. they're lying. that's not what a beta is.
same thing with the trailers that say "alpha footage". or even "pre-alpha" nowadays.

>>62184999
if you just want gaming performance right now, i5. if you want better multitasking or non-gaming performance, and a better upgrade path later on, ryzen.

>>62185061
for $100 you're going from a 1200 to a 1600, that's a huge bump yes.

>>62184999
oh and yeah don't get a 3Gb. that's underpowered compared to those cpus.

>>62185225
depends what you want to do with it.

>>62185264
Damn. Already went with the r3. Oh well, poverty build for now and then later, the good stuff.

>>62185301
I did the same thing >>62184169
The 1200 is good enough for now for 1080p60.

Do I have to threadrip to record at 1080p and stream while rendering

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hey dudes im in canada where can i buy a rig + monitor for 1200 but also gives me the opportunity to have a finance plan like pay 89$ per month instead of 1200 in one go ... thanks

alternatively refer me to the actual place i should be asking if it's not the right place

>>62184802
Remove the cooler and get a 1700 with the savings.
If you don't need 8 SATAs, then go for a b350 motherboard
Remember to check the motherboard's QVL, even if it's a meme.

>>62185400
Not in leafland, but maybe you could go to almost any store with a list of stuff and tell I'll pay you in like 24 months, thanks, me too

Try to build something on pcpartpicker and the Anons from here will yell at you if you fucked it up and just fix it.

>>62185425
getting a 1700 if he doesn't care about massively multithreaded applications or very demanding multitasking is stupid.

>>62185453
future proof and better perfomance in anything. Why limiting yourself while consuming more energy and getting higher temps while you could just go for the big goy spending the same and getting more perfomance and cores for free?

>>62184084
Do not post l*nus here EVER again.

>>62185452
i dont wanna make the pc myself... also it's not even for me

1TB SSD versus many terabytes 7200rpm plus a smaller SSD to use for something like bcache?

>>62185594
Most people use a 250-500 GB SSD for the OS, and then a 1TB to 3TB 7200 rpm HDD for mass storage

>>62185594
>1TB of Rock solid and dependable performance while sipping at power and barely producing any heat
Vs
>10x7,200rpm disks in raid 0 with a tiny SSD as cache. Shit load more power usage, heat generation, and points of failure. All while being slower than even the cheapest of nvme based SSDs

Gee idk you tell me which you'd go for

Is VESA mounting a meme?

>>62185317
I went with the 1300x instead of 1200, does that make a huge difference?

>>62185716
$30 wasted

>>62185632
I already have a SSD for my OS and 2TB HDD for storage. What I'm currently looking into is getting something more for running a bunch of VMs and I was comparing just going with a 1TB SSD or maybe using something like bcache or dm-cache to speed up a spinning drive that has many more TB.

>>62184999
R5 1600, current i5s are bankrupt and finished

NCase M1
Samsung EVO 960 M.2 500GB SSD
Asrock Ab350 mITX mobo
AMD R7 1700x
Noctua L12
Some kind of 2x8GB 3000MHz RAM

Will I regret it?

>>62185776
at that point, just get a large SSD
See:
>>62185684

>>62185702
What kind of stupid question is this?

>>62185702
You're a meme

>>62185796
I forgot.

SF600 Corsair
And ill keep using my R9 290 until drivers mature for VEGA or nVidias next offering

>>62185883
>not having sold your 290 to retarded miners for more than you originally paid for it three years ago

>>62185801
Actually now that I think about it, maybe it would be better to do like you said, get a SSD to assign to the VMs' operating systems, and a HDD to assign to be the VMs' mass storage.

>>62185899
>not using it to mine
Retard alert

>>62185899
I got it like 2 years ago

>>62185583
you're in the wrong thread then.

>>62185796
>>62185883
>Ncase
Literally why. Such a waste of money. You're paying premium price for less case. Just get a Corsair or cooler master case for 1/4th the price. The CM elite 130 case is like $40 and does all of what the Ncase can.
>>62185716
Get the 1200 and overclock. Take that saved $30 and invest into an aftermarket cooler. Or faster RAM.

And let's be honest. A year from now a Ryzen 1600/1700 will probably be below $150 used. You'll be able to upgrade on the cheap easily. Just make sure to invest into a good B350 board.

>>62185594
depends on how much money you have and how much storage you need.

>>62185716
you get better performance before OC, and identical performance after OC. if you don't plan to OC, or not right away, the 1300x will be a bit faster. i'm going to overclock it so i went for the 1200.

What do you guys think of this build. I have already bought the cpu, mobo, case, and psu. Is there anything I should change on it before I buy the rest?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/XXzHxr

>>62185750
>>62186051
I don't plan to OC, I guess the 30 was worth it if I don't feel like messing around. I know it's easy but I'm not worried about it on a build like this. I went with a msi b350 tomahawk arctic on sale, will that board last me a decent amount of time? My asus board was similarly priced and I squeezed 6.5 years out of it, I literally just made the switch from ddr3 to 4, and from windows 7 to 10

>>62186076
Everything looks fine. I think you could have done better for the case but it's bought already.
Maybe consider a larger SSD if you want to have several different games on it at the same time. I'm running a 120GB right now and it gets a little tight.

>>62186132
>will that board last me a decent amount of time?
it should. and it allows OC so in a few years if you feel like your cpu is running out of breath, you will be able to get more performance in a few minutes.

Ebay 20% off day. "P20LABORDAY"

>>62185493
gotta be honest, i'm sad i got so little reaction to the image i chose.

>>62186263
does that code work on anything we should care about?

>>62186138
I'm planning on just using the SSD as a boot drive. As for the case it is surprisingly well built. I have every thing wired up that i bought and there is more than enough room for all the wires. Build quality is fine too. I prefer to have no window so the small one on this case works well for me. It is all aluminum, all the edges seem smooth and I haven't gotten cut on it yet so I don't have any complaints.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tCJCRG
Here is my build, I am mostly happy with all the parts of it but I wanted to specifically ask about the monitor if it seems like a decent one in performance vs cost. As well as the speakers. I really want to get a good speaker set up and just felt like asking in here if anyone has some favorite speakers they get for their PC if concerned about music quality.

>Newegg still hasn't shipped any Vega 56

Is there anything wrong with changing mobo without reinstalling windows and just installing new mobo drivers?Will my pc run slower?

>>62186299
>does that code work on anything we should care about?
Antyhing $25+

>>62186340
from a very limited selection that doesn't include any computer parts

>>62186333
When changing parts you dont need to reinstall windows just delete the old drivers after you install the new ones and you should be fine.

>>62186299
its only usable on certain sellers... who marked up their prices

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Csg6VY

What would you change here?

>>62186301
fair enough then.

>>62186305
that's a lot of fans.
i just have my pc wired up to my stereo.

>>62186354
>from a very limited selection that doesn't include any computer parts

Yeah. Newehh just modified all their listings to invalidate it. Fuck.

>>62186402
I wouldn't buy on a dead platform and i wouldn't buy ram with leds on it. that PSU is way overkill.

how strict are the ram qvl's? There is a bundle with a 1700 and the mobo i want, but it comes with the rgb version of ram that is on the qvl, while the rgb one is not listed.

>>62186364
I know you can do it like that I'm just asking if it can make my pc run slower than a complete windows reinstall

>>62186438
I used the plataform because it is easier to show it all together. I will buy it locally

But I will get better RAM and a lower PSU. Thank you

>>62186568
i don't mean pcpartpicker, i mean intel.

What's the price of Vega 56 going to be once mining dies?

>>62186409
Get a ryzen 1600. You will get the same performance in gaming while having better longevity since games will be optimized for more cores in the future. Here is what I would recomend instead

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/yVHxYJ

>>62186547
No it will not run slower.

>>62186406
What kind of stereo set up are you using?

>>62186633
an inexpensive one i got from a store. but if you're an audiophile i'm sure you have a nice setup already.

>>62186402
>i5
No.

>>62186695
if you though it was going to get better, countries are starting to recognize bitcoin as a legal currency.

>first the switch
>then memory
>now video cards
casualizing video games was a mistake

>>62186695
>>62186736
t.edgymanchild

Is even worth try to build something based on used G34/X58 mobos this days?

>>62186800
sure if you come to my door and ask to behead me I will willingly let you do it. But you wont because you're an edgy manchild who just wants to gameon his pc instead of being a productive member of society you worthless sack of edgy shit.

Is it normal if my Ryzen jumps from 35°C to 45°C in a second and then loses temperature again until it reaches 35°C again and then makes that jump again? Could it have something to do with the CPU fan settings in the BIOS?

>>62186813
Nahalem was a god platform, but for the same or less money, you can get a brand new AMD 970 board with native SATA 3, USB 3, all that shit, but if you find the X58 board extremely cheap, do it.

>>62186594
>once mining dies
lol

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>>62186856
You. You I like. Your head remains safe.

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>looking at case
>case supports 140mm fans for every vent
>case only comes fully loaded with 120mms

Biggest regret about lastest builds?

I built one last year and I'm happy with everything performance-wise, but all I want now is something smaller. I got a mid-tower ATX case and it's fucking huge! Next build will definitely be mITX.

SPEND SOME FUCKING TIME RESEARCHING A CASE!
it's what you have to see everyday and lug around if you want to take it places.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cH9YxY

My biggest focus on this build is going to be gaming/VR, although I will be using 3D software on the occasion and rendering. My budget is about $1500 USD, and let it be known this is my first build. Does it look good, am I missing anything in particular?

>>62187282
Full ATX and full tower or go home imo. Less bullshit all around. No researching to see if your case is big enough to handle that new 3 slot monster video card. No looking to see if your case is deep/tall enough to handle that new air cooler you just bought or if you have the room for a radiator.

Just werks. My main PC is built inside a CM trooper and my server inside a fractal Design R5.

>>62187331
get faster ram, ryzen responds really well to it. 3200MHz is good.
don't buy windows for $90.
that case looks like shit, you can get something better for less money.

>>62184084
still kinda new to pc building as well as gentoo
should i get a pc without windows 10 os? how do i install gentoo?

>>62187338
This case is 2 feet tall and has a vent on top perfect for spilling shit into. It's a constant worry.

>E3-1245 v5 @ 3.50GHz
>32GB unbuffered ECC RAM
>2x 1TB WD Red NAS HDDs in a RAID1
I don't even stop my VMs anymore, it's glorious.

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Is there any noticeable difference bewteen this https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/ and this? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/
Just want 6 sata and 8 usb ports

>try to clean apps automatically because FUCK candy crush
>destroys the store too
>MS-dumbass says the only way to get it back is to reinstall windows

is there any other way?

>>62187478
It's your own fault for using Windows, wincuck. Also, this isn't a /pcbg/ question faggot.

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What should I upgrade first?

>>62187564
what a terrible post. you don't even know how to use the name field.

>>62187585
the oven that the components are in

>>62187585
Upgrade your GPU first and possibly the CPU if you plan on overclocking.

>>62187677
cheers, should a 1050Ti suffice? anything better in a +$100 range?

I can only speak from pondering at work and I haven't researched anything but how successful would you be with a mATX board and case and using a r5 and the integrated graphics? There are some sales and store credit I can abuse and I can get case, mobo, psu and cpu for about 350, and I've got an extra hdd and ram ready to go. Basically, how hard can you go with no gpu?

>>62187794

You can't skip getting a GPU since Ryzen CPUs don't have integrated GPUs, so you either have to buy a graphics card, wait until you can buy a Raven Ridge APU, or buy a Bristol Ridge APU

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Hope i'm in the right place. need help guys sorry i'm new to this. but my newly built computer wont start. No Post, 4 Beeps (system timer failure).

I tried booting with only CPU and 1 ram stick and same results. with all 4 ram sticks i get no beeps but no POST as well. also no beeps if i place 1 ram stick in any slot thats not B1. I also already used another motherboard but same result.

Would a 1050 2gb be sufficient for 720p gaymen? Mostly play CSGO, PES and NBA 2K series. Worth it to jump to the 1050 TI?

>>62188031
It's enough for CS GO for sure, no idea about those other games but in 720p i'm sure you will be fine, dropping the level of detail a bit if needeed.

>>62187365
Alright, I found 3200MHz memory, and I can worry about os later, do you have any recommendations for cases?

>>62188094
>>62188031
oh and the Ti would be quite a bit better for sure, I'd say it's worth the jump in case you want to go to 1080p.

>>62188094
sounds good mate, thanks

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>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zcbz3F
New build I just threw together, upgrading after 5 years on a 300USD budget build in a salvaged case. I plan on gaming, mapping said games, and some light rendering/photoshop bull. Kinda want something that will last a little bit, i'm a poorfag.
A few things to ignore: I have the r9 270x already, second-hand from a friend. Gonna ride that until this GPU fiasco dies down, or until I save enough to cash out. Also, I am reusing 2 HDDs from my current build, along with one more on the part list.
I've heard the stock cooler for the ryzen 5 is good enough for overclocking to 3.8GHz, but I wouldn't mind buying something aftermarket if it's just better. The sound card is because I have speakers fresh off craigslist I want to set up, and the WIFI adapter is because reasons.
I have the meta nzxt case selected, but I really like this coolermaster case even if it's a bit long.
>https://www.amazon.com/MasterBox-Mid-tower-Computer-Internal-Configuration/dp/B01HDUVOGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504211955&sr=8-1&keywords=coolermaster+masterbox+5
Anything I missed/should change? Thanks a lot.

>>62188205
That's a big screen

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>My 970 dies
>RX 580 is still out of stock
Just fucking end me now

>>62184999
I got that same cpu with a gtx 1050ti, can't say I'm dissapointed :^)
>inb4 cucked

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>>62188232

>>62188205
looking good. can you really not drive the speakers from the motherboard though?

>>62188354
To tell you the truth, I'm not really sure. It's more of a precautionary move.

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>>62188309
Just buy a 1070 or Vega 56 :^)

>>62188386
Yeah... The sound cards on motherboards are generally pretty decent these days. There's little reason to get a DAC unless you either actually need something better, are an audiophile, or need more/different outputs.

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How likely am I to mess something up by opening up my case and dusting it out with compressed air? Is there anything I need to be careful about other than holding the fans down and removing external cables/powering down?

I'm technologically retarded, sorry for stupid questions

>>62188395
Considering it, the current price of the 580 literally defeats the purpose of the card what 1070 would you suggest?

>>62188418
okay but what if- and hear me out... I want to eventually get a 64 key launchpad and use it as a a wacky soundboard

>>62188468
The one you can actually buy

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yo, on a mega budget build, hows this lookin? baring in mind its a budget so probs no ssd's and shit

>>62188480
Good for you!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QT7HHN

An anon helped me with this yesterday, but I know little about mobos beyond generally whether they support certain processors. What else should I look for in a mobo?

>>62188581
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QT7HHN
Budget, what are you using it for?

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Moving from a Thermaltake V21.

I love how well made this case is. I hated how much plastic was in my old one.

>>62188518
8gb ram is so much better than 4, I'd try to save with a 250gb hdd and use joogle for some storage and upgrade later

>>62188518
you should really try to get a b350 motherboard for the overclock. also that psu isn't very good, but the less expensive good one i can find on pcpartpicker uk is https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze which is £15 more, but I would still spend that to get a good PSU.

>>62188678
PLEASE BE IN LONDON

>>62188617
The budget for the whole build? I'd like to stay between 1.6-1.8k if at all possible but I can manage 2k if someone convinces me its worth futureproofing.

Life story TLDR: I have been using the same PC for like 6 years and am tired of playing modern games on low at 30 FPS. I wanna max modern games at 60 FPS at 1080 or 1440p and hopefully not have to replace anything for 3-4 years at least. I don't really have any plans for editing or streaming. I'd prefer also a case with a focus on airflow over looking pretty if it comes down to it.

>>62188581
The motherboard is """probably""" the most important part of the computer itself. Ctrl+f "Motherboard" and read the green dropdown menu for the quick rundown on
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>62188581
the chipset (will it allow overclocking?)
the connectors: how many usb, sata, pcie, m.2 do you want? chassis fan headers?
those are the easy ones, the rest (VRMs...) is a little more obscure.

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>>62188663
>that reflection
post boipucci

>>62188678
>>62188518
oh yeah you only got 4gb what the fuck, get 8 at least

>>62188683
i'm not

>>62188450
something like a compact vacuum cleaner would be better

>>62188663
how long is your dick?

>>62188689
Im kind of dumb when it comes to mobos so ill read the section. I assumed that all Z270 are almost alike except some minor visual differences.

>>62188663
thick?

>>62188723
imo the whole site is essential for noobs, but dont ever actually USE their chart to decide a build
It says on the site that its mostly for reference and that's it.

>>62188663
full build?

which mobo is that, it looks like the shitty wraith

>>62188809
looks like an asrock ab350m pro4

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-CP-9020061-EU-Builder-Modulaire-Alimentation/dp/B00ALK1TPE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504187750&sr=8-3&keywords=alimentation+700w

is this a good psu

>>62188800
Im not following it to a T. I just use it as a reference for the most recommended brands and models. Still kind of bogged down with mobos but I understand the rest.

>>62188809
ascock cutebelly 300

>>62188723
>I assumed that all Z270 are almost alike except some minor visual differences.
Z270 is just the chipset. There can be large differences in things such as power delivery and VRM cooling.

>>62188719
9.6 inches

>>62188809
I'll post a speccy later, but here.

ASRock ab350m pro4
Ryzen 1700
Corsair Vengence Ram 16gb
Gtx 1080

Is it worth investing in a better cooler? I heard the wraith spire was okay, is it that bad?

>>62188711
>>62188719
>>62188784
Shit, sorry. I didn't even think about reflection. No boipucci. I'm just a thick womanlet. Sorry to disappoint.

>>62188822
No, the Corsair CX series is not good.
Get this, assuming you're french: https://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_ali_puis_ref_est_in10079167.html

>>62188910
>no benis
WHY DID YOU BETRAY ME!

>>62188910
are you overclocking that cpu?
the stock cooler is pretty good yeah, you can even do a moderate OC on it and it will handle it fine.

>>62188910
You've made a grave mistake.

>>62188937
Just a moderate OC.

>>62188912
so will i be able to run one of those new CPU with a r9 390 or equivalent in power draw with this? i have 100 euros to spend on a psu, maybe one day to cross fire or some shit like that too

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>>62188718
I don't have one - is compressed air that bad? I thought that's what most people used

>>62189008
imagine
blowing air out so fast, you ended up pushing debris even deeper into your computers' various nooks and crannies, ruining it forever

>>62188819
shit should i get that instead of MSI B350M Gaming Pro?

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>>62189048
christ
now i'm just stressed out to clean it at all

>cas 16 trident z rgb $169
>cas 14 trident z $184

Do i fall for for the rgb memes? Is the slightly lower latency worth the extra money?

>>62189103
forgot to mention both kits are 16GB 3200MHz

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>>62188910
>thick womanlet

fuggg

A rather budget build since I don't game much. Considering the prices for GPU is being stupid right now and I don't need to use it for anything intensive, should I just get a Bristol Ridge APU and wait out for Zen 2 and GPU prices returning to normal?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nZfcXH

>>62189007
>R9 390
oh shit I didn't expect that. uh...
you probably could yeah, i did a quick test with a typical PC with a R7 1700 and R9 190 and pcpartpicker shows an estimate of 454W. And 620*80% is 496. But that doesn't leave a ton of headroom for a big OC.
But if you find something that's 750W that's not a Corsair CX, you should be fine for any and all builds you can dream of (short of multi-GPU but that's retarded).

You have an i5-2500K platform and i5-6600K one, then you have R7 270X and RX 480. Build one gayman rig and one compiling workstation while buying as little parts as possible. Leftovers will be sold.

>>62189158
alright then

>>62189158
>>62189007
shit you could just get that
https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-CP-9020131-EU-TX750M-Modulaire-Alimentation/dp/B06WLHSQ6G
Corsair's TX series is good, unlike the CX.

>>62189169
R9 270X ofc, im retarded

Asrock AB350M Pro4 or MSI B350M Gaming Pro?

they are roughly the same price

>>62189155
prices for the 1050 Ti are normal right now.

>>62189066
I have no clue anon. Do it if you want to look like our new resident trap, I guess.

>>62189252
Traps don't have hips like that, retard.

>>62189286
there must be because there are no girls on the internet

>>62189326
I want her to build my desktop for me so I can see those hips.

>>62189216
I went with the ASRock one due to reports about the MSI not getting correct ram speeds and takes longer to post. I still had the problem with ASRock, but maybe it would've been worse with the MSI. Overall, I'd weigh the pros and cons yourself. The ASRock one has less placed for fans, but nothing a fan splitter won't fix.

The white color of the mortar is nice though.

I'm going to university next year and my room at the student's residence doesn't have telefonic outlet to instal a router so I need a laptop.
I will do photoshop, video editing, animation and playing some games ( nothing more consuming than pubg).
My desired budget is 1200€ ( im from Spain) but i can go up a nice amount if needed.

I dont know barely anything about laptops.
Can i get something that fits my needs for the 1200€ price tag?
What specs should i expect on that price range? ( so i dont get scammed in the future)
Any recommendations for laptops in general?

>>62189199
nice thanks

i want quality psu at this price the components are too expensive to buy a shit psu

>>62189477
>Any recommendations for laptops in general?
not sure if this would do everything you need, but it should meet most of them.
Meet the Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming (7567)
Available with either an Intel Core i5 7300HQ or an Intel Core i7 7700HQ. Comes with either an Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 4GB, or an Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050Ti 4GB.

I have a base model with the non-Ti 1050, and a Core i5 7300 HQ, and it's an awesome laptop. That said, at least go for the Core i7 and 1050Ti model. Everything else, storage and ram, is upgradable, but the processor and GPU aren't.

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Is the difference amongst all these blocks just the looks?

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>>62189729
forgot pic

So what's the consensus on Vega?

>>62190088
Stillbirth.

>>62189882
go for the Cu one more heat transfer

>>62190124
Cu?

>>62190088
Vega 56 is fine. 64 is meh.
Poorfags are still salty because of miners.

>>62188468
Stop gaming. Push for total war with North Korea. Destabilize China. End up with China destroyed.

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>freesync monitors are cheaper and free as in freedom
>AMD cards are fucking trash

My new rig has slowed down noticeably during gameplay and the intial booting up of my programs on desktop after having (((activated) windows 10 pro. Is the lastest update just poor for performance, or do you think I've gotten a virus?

Relevant video:
https://youtu.be/F7lE4x-HRMA

Should I just restore to a fresh version of windows?

it's for gaming.
1500$ dollars.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GkQvM8

>>62184802
I'd go 1700x and keep the Noctua d15.

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>>62190604
You could save money on RAM and also get 2x8 sticks instead of 4x4
>buying vega
Not sure where you're getting it for $400 but it's your money :^)

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>>62190443
>tfw you gave up
>GTX card with a Freesync monitor because it was quality and didn't cost much

>>62184802
Either get a 1700 or get a 1600 and overclock it, 1600x isn't really worth

Did I fuck up? Tried to keep it conservative but give it lasting power. Can I cut some cost and not hurt preformance?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZbz3F

>>62190678
I'm probably gonna undervolt Vega, and the 4x4 is like 20 bucks more. It looks better imo.

who still /ddr2/ here?

>>62190604
get flare x instead of ripjaws v
rx vega requires at least a 750 watt psu
don't buy an msi motherboard
Wd blue ssds aren't nvme, get samsung instead

>>62190678
56 is good nvidiot

Any of you Android devs using Ryzen on your main machine?
Can you run Android VM?

>>62190755
In reverse order,
Okay.
Why?
No it doesn't. I'm undervolting anyway
Why?

>>62190755
>don't buy an msi motherboard

why

>>62184625
That can't be right. I was getting a solid 60fps maxxed with a FX8350 and a 1060 6gb 2070mhz.

>>62190777
msi has always has issues with their motherboards
550w is the minimum for rx vega but you never want to have just enough wattage
The ripjaws v aren't compatible with ryzen and won't run at their advertised speed
Also nice lucky sevens

>>62190815
Any suggestions on the Mobo?
https://outervision.com/b/OL6TLu
Oh, okay. Thanks.

>>62190829
Gigabyte gaming 3 b350, asus b350 rog f or b350 prime, asus prime x370 pro

>>62190693
Yeah
>Don't buy 1600x
Also a cheaper case if you can do that.

>>62190693
>conservative
go fuck yourself drumpflet neo confederate nazi KKK racist

>>62190965
Look. I agree with your insult of conservatives, but he just meant he wanted to keep the build as cheap as possible

>>62190965
>Anything resembling right is nazis

Just call people neo-something and win every argument.

>>62190991
SHUT UP NAZI FUCK

>>62191010
>nazi
>muh feelinz
Arent you a special snowflake. No one cares about your stupid feelings. Go back to your containment website walled garden, ledditer
>>62190693
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N943xY

>>62190965
Hide this post to avoid the whole shitfest.

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>>62191068
>>62191068
OUT YOU BIGOT OUT OUT OUT STOP STOP STOP NAZI BIGOT SOTP FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT

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>>62191085
>you

>>62190584
10 is a clusterfuck, what's your rig? I know Asrock mobos made it real easy for Ryzen builds to install 7 with a usb tool for Windows isos. If you don't really really need DX12, might consider move back. My Ryzen seem is so much stabler now.

I need to upgrade my R9 280. I was thinking of a 1060. Suggest a good card in the $400 dollar range for me friends.

>>62191158
>upgrading GPU before prices go back down
I wouldn't recommend it

>>62191010
excuse me? I'm in favor of melting down Confederate monuments into toilet seats for low-income areas.

>>62191158
What's the rest of your build?
If prices go down the 1070 will be in that range.

>>62191099
classic gif
havent seen this in a while

Does /pcbg/ prefer WD Black or HGST Ultrastar for HDDs? Or do you all just use those cheap 5200 rpm reds

>>62184169
You can get an EVGA PSU for super cheap when they're on sale, I got a 550W for ~$40, all cables are sleeved and black

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>>62191211
p sure everyone just uses Blues

>>62190331
Copper, you had chemistry, right?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cryDHN
Here's my current system, and I am wondering what I should upgrade next.

So what's the cheapest windows 10 key I can grab? Normally I'd search for it on my own but I've got parts for my PC waiting at home and I'll buy the key from my phone so I'm good to go when I'm home

>>62191310
nothing to upgrade. That's a pretty good system

>>62191334
kinguin

>>62191211
everyone just uses WD Blues or Seagate Barracudas.
Everyone recommends AGAINST the WD blacks because of noise.

>>62191354
I Googled kinguin and some site called g2deal has it for 10 bucks. Too scammy?

>>62191310
P solid desu fampai
Maybe another monitor?

>>62191448
Kinguin has the cheapest keys guaranteed to work
https://www.kinguin.net/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=window+10

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>tfw can't decided what mid-case to get
literally just want good airflow and cable management, thats it

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>>62191527
Oh, there are a list of features to look for in a midcase. Do you want 5.25 support? Do you care about noise? Do you care about price?

Fractal Design Focus G seems like a solid basic case. Sadly no solid panel door option for it.

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>>62191688
I use headphones so noise isn't too much of a factor, I literally have no use for 5.25 drive bays. I just need 3 3.25 bays for my HDDs and someplace to put my single ssd

>>62191791

Perhaps the NZXT S340?

https://www.nzxt.com/categories/s340

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>tfw board can't even spell audio boost right
That's quality shit right there.

>>62191935
>audio boots
G A Y M I N G

>>62191935
MSI is cheap chink garbage.

You want Gigabyte for the decent chinkshit.

>>62191886
looks like shite mate

>>62191973
Yeah I am definitely grabbing the 990FX-UD3 Rev 4.0 or R5 if I see a good one cheap, this board sucks ass and it's not prime stable at anything over 4.2GHz and 1.384V, pissing me off because it will boot into windows fine even at 4.4 but two cores will fail on prime. or it will freeze if you stress it.

>>62192014
OCing advise would help, I tried to use that OC genie shit and the voltage went to 1.448 which scares me and my cooler isn't that big.

>>62192014
use linpack (either linx or intelburntest) for CPU stress testing, prime95 won't find errors in 6 hours that linpack will find in 5 minutes.

>>62192080
I tried intelburntest and it passed me, but prime was crashing cores within 2 mins and the machine randomly froze once, so I gave up on it and stayed stable at 4.2. I might have the shittiest 8350 chip or this board is ass, i'm leaning towards board, which is a shame because I like the way this bios works.

>>62192098
weird linpack is normally way brutal compared to prime, maybe they updated prime and it's better now

>>62191688
My problem with the Focus G is the lack of a PSU shroud. Beyond that, it looks decent

>>62192193
>psu shroud
This is so unnecessary it hurts

>>62192236
>Ratio locked to 21
>Joke ass Cool n Quiet off
>voltages on auto
>HPC mode off because it doesn't do shit
>Ram at 1866 (lowering it to 1333 didn't help)
What could be wrong here?

>>62192277
>Ratio locked to 21
I forgot to say it's stable here but anything more and it will crash with more than enough voltage.

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>A lot of people into the crypto shit don't file it on their taxes and think it's untraceable free money

The chuckle is almost worth having to do shit at 15 frames per second.

>>62192551
>Filing your taxes
Why? It's a meme.

>>62193040
Hello, Donald Trump.
Tax returns when?

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>>62193040

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has mongoprice discontinued this monitor? the one i ordered a few days ago just got here but now the page doesnt exist on their site anymore

>>62193088
They're not relevant.

I currently have a i5 6700k and a gtx 750 ti 2gb.. how much performance gains could i see if i switched graphics cards?

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I was tearing this thing apart to trait some parts, why was this thing not plugged in?

>>62193682
>berg connector
because nobody uses floppy drives anymore

>>62193711
b-but that looks like a fan connector

>>62193735
>fan connector
>two red wires

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R8 H8 Masturb8

From Australia.
PC use: Games - LoL, Pubg, Witcher, Metro. Artsy - Zbrush, Maya, PS
Check on RAM being supported by Mobo, some people say it does, mixed.
Ryzen vs intel debate. Think ive decided Ryzens bang for buck

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 with wraith spire
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix x370-F
SSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GB
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB
GPU: ASUS ROG Strix 1070 OC
RAM: G. Skill Trident RGB 16 GB (2x8)
Case: NZXT - s340
PSU: Seasonic G-650 Gold 650W Power Supply
Monitor: BenQ XL27302 27"
OS: Win 10

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Can anyone recommend a good program that'll display my fps? Preferably one that isn't CPU intensive. I just want to test some frame rates on different settings.

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>>62193919
>>62193919
>ASUS ROG Strix

>>62188910
>I'm just a high demand object, pity me
unfortunate

I know it doesn't make sense but I can't seem to successfully use an ssd. Last time I tried I got tons of memory access errors, is there ANY reason why my computer would shit itself at the thought of running windows on one and running steam on another?

I just reinstalled back solely to my hdd and I'm fine

>>62194024
MSI Afterburner/RivaTuner?

>>62194269
Possibilities in descending probability
>improperly connected PSU/SATA cables
>faulty drivers
>faulty cables
>faulty hardware
>actual software incompatibility

>>62194269
how old is your mobo
have you updated BIOS/drivers

>>62194423
Mobo is like 5yo I think? Asus p8z77-v. Updated bios didn't help
>>62194309
I checked the cables so unless there's something I can't see (probable) I just have to assume incompatible software

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Hey guys what do you think about my build? What should I change before I order the parts?

>>62194741
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bPTTLD

>>62194526
have you tried connecting the ssd to different mobo ports?

>>62194741
might as well get this instead of that 2.5"

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8WZ2FT/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzn5e250bw

>>62194819
No, but I swapped cables around. If it's a busted port then that's still bad

>>62194741
psu is a little overkill but it's not too much more expensive than a reasonable alternative.
You can get better $/GB on a 3TB or 4TB drive but if you aren't going to use that much that's fine too

>>62194863
Well try a port you know works first, at least narrows down what could be going on

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>>62193296
>buying a ghost monitor

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Does Nvidia ever restock their own brand GPUs? Or is it a when they're gone they're gone kinda deal.

>>62194993
If I had the option to sign a fucking blood-oath to get a card for the MSRP I would.

>>62194993
>buying the Founders Edition card

>>62195007
Already have 1 1080. I'm buying a 1080Ti a second card for CUDA 3D rendering. Consensus on the forums is FE is the way to go unless you want to do custom water cooling.

So how long until LED bullshit becomes mandatory via optical transfer becoming an economical reality and LEDs becoming the next step in cooling tech?

Recommend me a PC built around a i7 7700k or its equivalent AMD shill CPU. I will get a 1080Ti too. I plan on overclocking. Everything else is up to you.

I'm from Australia if that matters for PC part availability or costs and I tried using Logical Increments but its recommendations vary between the country options you select so I'm getting cold feet with their default selections.

When I have my headphone jack connected directly to my computer (the back and the front) there will be static noise. It has been like this for a month at least.

how do i fix this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YRMixW9u8

>>62184084
Anyone have hard drive recommendations?

I need to get a single 2TB drive for my rig, my current drive went down the tubes and I had to scramble to salvage my data because I'm fucking stupid and never backed up my shit.

Because I want to stop being so fucking stupid, I am going to get a USB 3.0 enclosure and am going to do regular backups of my shit. This drive also only needs to be 2TB.

So basically: I need a 2TB drive for my rig, a 2TB drive for an external backup, and an enclosure for my backup drive.

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What's the best monitor i can get for under $250?
Got this on my build (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xVcMnQ/dell-monitor-p2416d), but looking for something cheaper but just as good

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Rate, and help. It's for gaming and streaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMzwBP

>>62195497
This too but what's the cheapest and best 4K monitor

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>>62195140

On sale today, if you're willing to risk with BIOSTAR

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138450

>>62195794
>those VRMs

Jesus. Hope nobody puts more than a six core on that.

>>62195794
Why is Biostar the only X370 mATX maker.

>>62196045
Because anything less than full ATX is stupid on a high-end board

I have an i7 3770/16GB/1TB/6GB GTX 1060 machine I'm putting up for sale. Do you think adding a SSD would pay for itself?

vega in stock
64 costs $550
56 costs $480
this is worse than 1800x idiocy

>>62196226
I have no need for dozen usb ports or multiple PCIe slots. All that space is wasted and it's not like I'm not ready to pay premium as I have 1080 Ti.

>>62190731
The computer I built for my mom 10 years ago has 4GB of DDR2. She's still using it today. Athlon 64 X2, 8600GT.
I spent hours playing team fortress 2 on that thing.

>>62193647
A whole lot. Get a 1080.

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>tfw amdfag
>tfw just wanted a rx570
>tfw jumping to green team and a 1050ti because tired of waiting for gpu prices to come down

i feel like this shit should be like 20 bucks cheaper for it's performance

>>62196564
the 1050ti is at a pretty normal price really

Decided to upgrade from 8gb to 16gb, The same Ram I bought for $31 last year is now $81.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HzJnn

Want to upgrade a little more, thinking of picking up a ssd and maybe upgrading to a i5.

>>62196712
So is that what you already have or what you're going to buy?
And do you have any actual questions?

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Sup /pcbg/, I'm going to pick a Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OC Edition for ~150 usd new.
How fucked I am? Is it reliable? Can I OC this without setting my house on fire?

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where do these go?

>>62196727
I just ordered that exact card.
From the reviews, it looks like you can OC to 1500MHz but not much more (which is what some other cards come from out of the factory). But it stays cool at that frequency.

>>62196725
This is what I already built last year, looking to upgrade it a little now. I am sharing this information so that others may give their opinions on my proposed upgrades.

I've been told I should consider holding off on the i5 and pickup a ryzen later, but that seems a little silly as I'd have to get a new mobo as well, don't think the cost is justified.

Monitor for GTX 1080, budget around €600 (can stretch depending on value/price plateaus)?

Current ideas:
AOC-s 1440p144Hz IPS for ~620
Acer 1440p144Hz IPS for €540
or 34" LG 1080p ultrawide 60Hz ~€400
or 29" LG 1080p ultrawide 75Hz ~€250
or 27" LG 1080p 75 Hz ~€220?

Schoolwork, gaming, mostly "muh cinematic" WoW, AAA games, bit of overwatch, no csgo, no dota, no lol (i.e. not interested in hertz for competitive advantage, but if it really looks better for AAA games too, then why not)

>>62196832
Oh ok. So does the i3 or the 8GB actually limit you in what you're doing?
An SSD would be a relatively cheap and easy upgrade that makes a world of difference to everyday usability, I'd definitely go for that at least.

>>62196808
In your pooper

im not sure if im retarded for using an mATX in a mid tower that supports full atx also, but i want my fucking optical drive

>>62197014
there are micro atx towers with optical drive bays.

>>62197030
got any examples? this is my first build ever, im not sure if im gonna need the extra space for fat finger assembly

what about air flow and such in a smaller case

>>62196867
I've had a few problems in some games with ram because I like to leave a lot of things going at once. Hoping the ram will give some more freedom.
I think the i3 has caused a few problems with games. I've gotten a lot into Arma the past year and I think that's been impacting it. Worried I might see that impacting more newer games in the next year, but I'm debating whether if its worth or if I can hold out for another year. atm the only newer game I'm looking at is Destiny 2, which has the i3 as the minimal requirements.

Definitely going to pickup a ssd. Just a 250 gb one should be enough for me as I don't keep a lot of games installed at one time.

>>62197037
new thread
>>62197037
>>62197037
>>62197037
>>62197037

>>62196727
Is that one good or is there anything better for max $100 more?

>>62197397
You can get a 1060 6GB for ~$250 I think. Or a 3GB for ~$200 or a bit less, which is worth it at that price point.