/pcbg/ - PC Building General

FUCKING MINERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>having more than 2gb of VRAM

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>>62169843
Kill yourselves manchildren

>>62169897
>insults manchildren
>manchildren run the white house
We run this shit.

how's my build for destiny 2? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pQNM8

>>62170012
>7700k housefire
>600 dollars of storage
>nearly 2k build with only a 1060

>>62170047
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JYfthq is this better?

>>62170104
not sure about how well seasonic psus are made but looks fine for a super high end gayming build

cant find vega 1070 or 1080 at reasonable prices so getting a 1080ti why wont miners just let me get my vega 56 havnt they learned they are losing money on power draw

>>62169824
Why no mention of a 7700K in the OP?

>>62170012
>Jewtel
>Overpriced CPU cooler
>$600 in storage.
>500w would be enough for that shitty.build.

>>62170012
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pQNM8
>almost $90 for a bunch of plastic spinning at high speeds
I'm glad I went with ryzen I could buy additional drive for that fan price.

Rate my build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMNZM8

>>62170238
>DDR4-2800
Ew

>>62170238
No ssd? Trust me you want that. If you really want to save some money just buy even the smallest ssd just for os.

what is the best case under 50$ ?

>>62169887
>He thinks everyone in this thread has his PC just for shitposting and programming

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With a ~$70 difference between the 1050 TI and the 1060 3GB, is jumping up to the 1060 for ~50% more fps the best move value wise right now?

When can we hope this overjewed graphic cards bullshit will end?

>>62170534
1060 3gb is like $30 cheaper than 1060 6gb in my country so I think it's worthless card.

>>62170534
The 3GB is trash. It will tank is a lot of modern games. You want 4 GB minimum for modern gaming.
So the 6GB 1060 would be the one to get

>>62170534
Why were you thinking about the 1050 Ti in the first place if you don't care about spending another $70?

>>62169897
but can it run crysis ?

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Just bought EVGA 1060 6gb for $275. Please tell me I made the right decision.

>>62170708
>The 3GB is trash. It will tank is a lot of modern games.
Modern AAA games and/or unoptimized trash might "need" more than 3gb. Most of that is shit, fortunately.

>>62170937
I think that's pretty close to non-jewed price.

>>62170937
You're a confirmed retard and might want to consider suicide. 1060 is shit for mining.

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>TFW you have such a retarded idea for a tech innovation it sounds like it could plausibly work
>TFW you're scared to tell people because they'll steal your idea and make millions off of your brain's labor

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What 1440p/>100hz monitors would /pcbg/ recommend?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtyRd6
Imaginary build that will never happen because I'm poor, how would you rate it?

>>62170104
>buying a 1TB SSD as your only drive
this pains me.
that PSU is actually a little overboard, and you could get some 3200 ram or faster (not sure how well the fastest frequencies work with intel).
but that's a very expensive build.

>>62170238
Pretty nice. If you can get 3200MHz ram for a few bucks more do it. And I would absolutely get an SSD.

>>62171294
breddy gud. Only concern is the ram getting to 3200 and cpu cooler for overclocking. The stock is good for mild overclock (~3.6) but beyond that it runs out of steam.

>>62171294
>blower 1080
>pretty shit case

>>62171186
XG2703

>>62171186
AG241QX if you don't mind TN

Currently building my PC. Everything is inside. However, when I turn on the power, only my motherboard lights up. When I try power it on at the power button, nothing happens.

I am not plugging in something clearly - any ideas?

>>62172030
Is the power button plugged to the motherboard?

>>62172030
The front panel headers are probably off, those are a bitch to work with.

>>62172059
Yep, that's all plugged in - including the 8 pin. I disconnected everything and left only them in with the hard drives all wired up - no CPU, no VGA (and the CPU socket supplied with my PSU is very odd in that it doesn't fit into the PSU) and only the motherboard lit up once more. I'm confused as to *what* should be plugged in.

>>62172063
As in what is supplied with the case? I keep fiddling around with them to no avail - maybe I just need to fiddle further...

>>62172144
No, the literal power button you're pushing to start it, as >>62172063 said. Look at your motherboard manual. Some guy yesterday had literally the same problem and he wired the power button backwards.

>>62170163
I came in at the tail end of the Dogecoins hype and made around $80 after paying off my video card. Only mined maybe a month, and this was the very end of anyone giving a shit.

>>62170925
yes just not at max settings

>>62172171
Tell everyone that, because I had the exact same problem. Thank you for putting up with my stupidity.

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Does anyone else use contact cleaner on their CPU contacts to reduce voltage drop?

>>62172408
Twice in a row, that's funny. I hope the guy from yesterday sees this, it will make him feel better about his mistake.

>>62172427
However, though it turns things on, it doesn't turn anything else but the fan and the motherboard on. I imagine this is a problem with the CPU and the VGA - but neither fit into the PSU well, nor have any place on the motherboard. What's the problem here?

>>62172630
Correction: the graphics card fan, and presumably the graphics card, is also working. Just nothing seems to show.

>>62172426
I don't see the point, I got my FX brand new and the voltage dips just because my board is shit and has no load line nonsense to help it.

Just bought gtx 1080 from palit gamerock premium version, is this any good?

>>62172426
Does it actually help?

New to this General

Why in the OP does it not recommend i7 or i5 unless discounted? I'm sure there's a good reason but I'd like to know what it is. I use an i5 in my HTPC and it runs pretty well.

>>62172727
It's from the perspective of building a new PC. Taking into account it's on a new socket and they plan to support it for a while, Ryzen generally makes more sense. Price to performance, harder to find a better deal for a new system build.

FWIW, I'm still on a i5-2500 and it serves me fine.

>>62172668
Yeah, shitty motherboard is going to matter more than the CPU contacts.
>>62172702
Yeah, barely. If you have a good motherboard, it's one more thing you can do to make things run better, it'll barely drop the resistance, which means lower voltage and less heat.

>>62172702
Not as much as just spending the extra 30$ on a better cpu and mobo in the first place.

>>62172867
Too late if you already own a motherboard and CPU, and there's an eBay seller selling it for only $15 shipped right now.

I bought a 7700k and ddr4 4233. It was worth it. Feel bad for people doing high refresh on ryzen.

My cpu fan just came in today. The box was opened but everything is still inside, should i be worried? Not all my pc parts are in, so i can't test out everything.

>>62173133
I wouldn't worry if everything's in good shape, my Hyper TX3 cooler had a few bent fins while being perfectly sealed, had to bend that shit back the way it was before I put it on.

>>62173167
Yeah, i bought the H7 cryhorig and it says to "return if registration card is missing" but it's still here so.. yeah.

>Debate buying Thermaltake care with fancy RGB fans
>RGB fans are connected to a separate controller that needs to be taped to the inside of the case

Why.

R9 Fury for ~$280, GTX 980 for ~250 or 980Ti for ~330?
Gayming at 1080p and will be pairing it with a R5 1600. 750 W XFX PSU.

>>62173703
Because Jayztwocents.

>>62173747
980 or 980Ti, 4GB is to much of an issue for the fury.

>>62174090
But the 980 has 4 GB as well.

>>62174113
and costs less, and performs worse

Anyone used these guys before? https://www.raptorcs.com/content/base/products.html

>pc dies but it was old and cheap
>carefully build a new one that'll be perfect for me
>finally gather the funds and order it all
>last part comes in today
>won't turn on at all
>spend three hours trying everything google and I can think of
>finally bring it to local pajeet since I can't test the psu or motherboard myself
[spoiler]psu was faulty[spoiler]
I'm so fucking mad

>>62174215
you had your old PCs psu, you know...

>>62174288
threw it
also was too weak

>>62174301
how much power do you think does a modern PC need idling?

>>62174310
probably about 550W?

>>62174326
far below 100

>>62174326
Lmao my housefire of a pc uses 298w worst case scenario.

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>>62174326
my new one was that my old was 500. Luckily Bestbuy 30 miles over has some psus I'm gonna check out
its only a bronze but I'm tired of waiting

>>62174343
my old psu was 350W and it wasnt enough

>>62174382
it was more than enough to start it up and check if it everything else is OK. It probably wouldn't even have crapped out (as in shut down because it can't deliver enough power without voltage dropping/ripple going to shit) if you put load on CPU and GPU, but that's just guessing

>>62171299
I'm new. Why is that solo 1TB SSD bad?

>>62174520
SSDs are more unreliable than HDDs meme. Hasn't been true for years.

Does linux run well on mac hardware?

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>>62169824
HDD and monitor are on the way, CPU is OC'd to 3.8 at 1.35 v

>>62174628
this was taking while playing vidya btw

>>62174569
Does Linux run well on an incredibly widespread hardware platform? I really ro wonder

Anyone got a Vega 56 from Amazon shipped yeT?

>>62174628
>70 degrees
Must sound like a jet engine in your room

>>62174829
Not really it's super quiet. Plus I play with headphones on so it doesn't even matter.

I just want a 580 or Vega 56 at MSRP. Hell even 1060s and 1070s.

This whole mining situation has made comp building total shit this entire time and going into fall now.

I'm even tempted to buy a goddamn 1050ti just to HAVE a card to use in a build because I had everything sitting in a corner already besides a GPU.

>>62174855
>70 degrees
>Blower fan
>Super quiet
Yeah. My i5 is also better than R5 1600.

>>62174628
Damn, blower vega is hot.

>>62174883
>>62174905
It's actually quiet.70°C isn't even hot under load lmao.

>>62174883
Is my i5 6600k better than ryzen 1600?

>>62174917
>70°C isn't even hot under load lmao.
>This is what AMDdrones think

>>62174929
>>62174883
>4 core babby lake i5
>better than ryzen
lmao
>>62174933
What's your 1070 run under load?

>>62174929
Everything is better than the other company brand as long as you take the redpill

>>62174941
>>62174945
Im getting the i5 for free anyways

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>>62174941

>>62174955
>6 degrees hotter than vega 64 under load
what is this trying to prove?

>70 degrees isn't hot
>Blower fans aren't loud
Vega idiots are really something else aren't they?

>>62174984
>thinks he can critique a product he doesn't own
>1070 and 1080/ti both run hotter than vega 64
Lmao

>>62174978
>Can't read image
>Idiot thinks I am using a 1070
Vega tards everyone

>>62174998
>thinks he can critique a product he doesn't own
YOU NEED THE PRODUCT TO SAY IT IS BAD
t. AMDdrone who keeps calling the i5 bad

>It is someone says something bad about the Vega and the AMDdrones chimp out episode
FFS. They already rerunning old episodes?

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is this bad or something?

>>62175115
No. Why?

>>>/wsg/1852738
here you autists
i can't even hear it with my headphones on

>>62172319

i had 800k dogecoins mining with a 7770, getting a low powered GPU to mine can pay off if done right

>>62175115
It's not a Ti.

>>62175186
I am sure you are a scientific model of non-bias when every tech site has them at 50-55db at load. Everyone is wrong except the ones stupid enough to buy Vega.

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>>62169824
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hxTRd6
rate my build

Whats the best PC I can build for $1600-1800 range?

>>62175240
>audiophile numbers on a graph are more important than actual audio clips

>>62175253
Gaymen? Drop your CPU down a grade and cut back on the AIO. Put that money towards a 1080ti. It will serve you better than a 1700x will ever.

>>62175255
Also I know nothing about Ryzen. I have only been using Intel for ages.

>>62175264
>"actual" audio clips
t. Anon who put it through audio rendering to mute his GPU

I am sure all the tech sites who have actual audio monitor devices conspired to shit on AMD together and you the Erin Brockovich of GPUs will tear apart this conspiracy with a cellphone pointed at his PC. Good luck.

>>62175300
>nvidiots being this delusional

>>62175356
>All the tech sites online is wrong
>I am right
>Everyone who believes those sites are nvidiots and delusional
>Everyone who believes me a random anon with a AMD bias is not
:thinking:

You never see Nvidia buyers trying to justify their purchase here because they know they have a superior product.
You never see Ryzen buyers trying to justify their purchase here because they know they have a superior product.
But Vega buyers? They are the most insecure of the bunch. Shit on them and they will point a camera at their PC to prove you wrong.

>>62175369
>you can even hear the game on in the background in the webm
>lol its edited footage

>Go and look up all the parts of a build on pcpartpicker choosing the cheapest sales
>Go onto a prebuilt site that lets me customize all the parts to the exact same specifications
>Comes out to within about $50 difference
>Without even factoring in the shipping, different warranties, and build time for building my own again

Is prebuilt the future that brainlets here still consider a boogeyman or am I somehow doing it wrong? Im being 100% serious about this because the margin is so small for all that hassle.

>>62169824
>Buy ASUS GTX 1060
>Works great .. when the fans are off (0db mode)
>As soon as the fans spin up it makes awful whirring grinding noise
>Contact seller for return
>They want a video of the fucking thing making noise

brb bleach.

>>62175420
>This proves that all the tech sites with proper audio monitoring devices was wrong!
Anon you might be onto something here.

>>62175436
>buying an asus card
>buying a used asus card

>>62175446
It wasn't used.

>>62175426
Are they the same model? Same specs =/= same model. A 1070 reference is different from a 1070 AIB. A 600W Seasonic is different from a 600W off brand PSU. Etc. It might all have the same specs but use inferior components, models or parts.

>>62175461
Same model. I made sure to check each one for the model and manufacturer.

>>62175426
>all the hassle
I don't know what your job is anon, but I make less than 50 bucks an hour.

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Who is lying?
Guru3D or random anon on /pcbg/ with buyer remorse?

>>62175480
Screenshot the PCP list and then screenshot your prebuilt specs and show it to us.

>>62175483
I don't even know why people stray away form building PC's I had to remove my motherboard the next day because I am a dumbass and forgot to move the exhaust fan cable out of the way and it got pinched behind my board, rig still worked perfect.

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>>62175502
I'll work on the list but get ready for people to meltdown over shit regardless. Either way I want feedback on the parts chosen. Rate, comment and subscribe. Note that the mouse and keyboard are free and ill probably just sell them for $10-20 each. Still undecided on the case, and the PSU is probably overkill.

>>62175489
A random video obviously isn't worth more than measured data but that chart doesn't look to useful either. What the heck do they use to measure, a phone? If everything ends up at roughly the same noise level anyways your methodology is fucked.

As for VEGA, there isn't much to talk about. Blower designs have always been on the louder side and the card sucking up more than 250W doesn't help either. If you're OK with that because you have closed headphones on all the time, neat for you. Doesn't mean the card's silent.

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>Someone asks what video card they need to buy to properly game on the $1000 4K monitor they bought
>Reddit doesn't laugh at them

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>>62175554
>What the heck do they use to measure, a phone?
Fucking moron

>>62175505
It's less complicated than a Lego technic kit. Don't use force and you won't break anything. Somehow people still shy away from it.

>>62175572
If you didn't make out the sarcasm in that one you might actually be autistic...

>>62175591
Hard to tell if you are being sarcastic or plain fucking stupid since you are defending the Vega.

>>62175651
You might want to read the entire post

>>62175554
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QT7HHN
Here is a build that is 90% the same.
I can't find the WD Green SSD so I put in a better SSD.
No GPU model brand but fuck it, I put in the top of the line 1080ti Asus strix which is one grade higher than the reference 1080 they are offering you.
I even threw in a Seasonic Gold rated PSU.
And that comes up to a grand total of $1726.69.

Where the fuck are you getting this 50 dollar cheaper bullshit from?

>>62175671
>Yeah I buy i5 because I want the superior IPC for gaymen
t. Buyer remorse

>>62175677
Meant for >>62175541

>>62175697
I appreciate your help. This does seem a bit better. Maybe I was paying up for a ricer case among other things and lost my way. Though I am still concerned about having all those different warranties to consider.

>>62175744
>>62175697
Also can you explain why this case comes so highly recommended?

>>62175744
>Though I am still concerned about having all those different warranties to consider.
Anything breaks. Just RMA with the manufacturer. How hard is that?

>>62175754
>Also can you explain why this case comes so highly recommended?
Which case?

>>62175768
The NZXT-S340 and 630. I'm not sure what to look for in a case.

I'm trying to avoid building a new pc, I feel I can fix mine but I'm not optimistic anymore. Constant crashes that I just cannot diagnose. Tried to get a new copy of windows onto a flash drive and try a clean install with just one ssd, but it crashed while writing files and more I've got a "raw" disk. How the fuck do I fix it or does that mean I pissed away 10 bucks

>>62175792
S340 is recommended because it is a decently priced casing with all the features you want in a case without being over fancy. Also a design that can't go wrong (it is literally a black box), if you want something more fancy, you can pay more but whatever you are paying for will be better if you built it yourself than buying from IBP.

Here is the same build with a 1080 instead of a 1080ti.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZ7HHN
That is a price difference of 400 or so dollars. You can pretty up your build however you want.

>>62175831
>Constant crashes that I just cannot diagnose
Did you run memtest?

>>62175684
What? That's not even related

>>62175834
What would you recommend for a semi-modular PSU? I am selling my entire old PC so I don't exactly have the cables laying around. I wanna keep the ti though.

1060 3gb for $190 good?

Replacing a 760, but don't plan on keeping it as a long term card. Card drought just hurting right now.

1600x, 32gb of 2400, and 500gb sd, and other things bought already during sales, just GPU is the last part that's cockblocking me.

Can handle 1080 for now til this gpu shitstorm blows over.

>>62175858
You shouldn't reuse PSU cables.
Any PSU with the seasonic brand is a good PSU.

>>62174364
I have had two of those. They blow. Wait for RMA you single-marshmallow faggot

>>62175877
>3GB
>2017
You know how people laughed at the 970 for having 3.5 VRAM? You are buying a card with 0.5 lesser VRAM.

>>62175880
I didn't really plan on it. Its just that fully modular seems a bit too expensive for what it does having to buy all new separate cables.

So I was thinking about building for the first time, maybe a budget system, so I've been looking at used i5s. Am I wrong or do they really not devalue much? Even 3+ years old.

>>62175845
Yes, for 30 hours, tons of errors. I assumed it was ram, replaced it, no dice. I think it might be the ssd, they both went on at the same time, with a fresh install of windows in the ssd. After that, constant crashes that became more and more frequent until I can only work on it for 10 minute bursts before a crash interrupts me. No clue man, my only guess is my old ass mobo didn't like the ssd and decided to fuck everything up.

I wanted to get a copy of windows for my USB and just rma the ssd but that was a no go, I've got a broken USB now.

>>62175253
Why 16GB?

>>62175892
I have a 760. 2gb. MSI

>>62175902
If there are tons of error that means something is fucking with the RAM, if replacing the RAM didn't fix it, it means the RAM slots are busted.

Try again with RAM into other channels. Otherwise your Mobo is fucked.

>>62175895
A fully modular PSU comes with cables when you buy it. A semi modular PSU works as well. Just don't get a fully modular one.

this is my current build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WYKRd6

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (currently 3.8Ghz @ 1.317V stable)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Plextor - M5P Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - BOOT
Storage: Intel - 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 SeaHawk X 8GB Video Card
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: be quiet! - STRAIGHT POWER 10 CM 600W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular PSU
Monitor: LG - 29UM58-P 29.0" 2560x1080 75Hz Monitor
Keyboard: Corsair - K65 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech - G402 Wired Optical Mouse


Is anything unbalanced and should be altered? Part of me feels like I need a better PSU, and to get a EVGA G2 750 to run in eco mode. The PSU is the loudest part of my setup now.

>>62175892
No one would've laughed at a 3.5GB 970. People laughed at the 970 because it was the equivalent of selling a 1TB SSD made out of 896GB flash and 128GB in floppy discs.

>>62175937
Better PSU.
HDD.

>>62175926
I'll try the other slots but I've had ram in all 4 and still got crashes. Is there a way to fix the raw USB? I tried a few freeware programs but no success

>>62175953
>HDD

I have a NAS setup, that's why there's no HDD

>>62175945
The 970 were running into VRAM issues back in 2015. Games were using close to 4 GB VRAM back then. Much more now. A 3 GB GPU won't cut it unless you drop textures.

>>62175935
I've been living a lie. I didn't know since I haven't bought a fully modular one. It sounds better if it does come with just the basics. So it comes with the cable for the Mobo, CPU, GPU, and at least enough for the HDD and SSD?

>>62175961
Plug it into windows.
Do a full format.
Otherwise it is fucked.

>>62175899
Why buy used if you can get new parts in the same price range? An old i5 now really isn't worth it if you don't already have board+ram. What's your budget?

>>62175937
A 500W PSU is plenty for that. And there is no reason to replace the current one except maybe noise, nonidea what fans they're using in that series. Its definetly a quality PSU though, so there are no concerns about it killing your system whatsoever.

>>62175975
It comes with all the cables that a non-modular one has. It is just up to you if you want to plug them in all not. Every slot on the PSU will have a corresponding cable in the box.

>>62175994
I am in your debt. I'll get this build and it'll be slightly better than the other because of the GPU. Still have to >buy Windows though most likely.

>>62175976
Doesn't show up in disk management except on the bottom screen as disk 2. Can't do anything from there. Clean disk in diskpart does nothing either. Damn. Wonder if I can rma the dollar general.

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I did it.
64GB (16GBx4) DDR4 3200 CL14 samsung b-die.
RAM prices fucking got me, I could have ordered this shit last November and it've been $600.

Well, at least now that I've ordered it, I know the price will drop thanks to murphy.
Still thankgod for NewEgg Australia shipping.

>>62175975
It comes with cables for all the connectors it is specced out to have. Check the speccsheet, it tells you how many PCIe x6/8, 4pin cpu, molex, data and maybe floppy connectors it has.

>>62176014
Buy windows off a grey market site.
There is Kinguin, Ebay or Allkeysite.
An OEM key should cost you 25 US dollars.

>>62176016
If your mobo is faulty, I won't put it past a rogue current shorting and killing your USB when you plugged it in.

>>62176051
Wouldn't that mean the mobo has killed almost anything connected to it? Meaning I need to start from the bottom? I was just going to replace it plus some ddr4 ram, but it sounds like it all has to go. What do I have to spend for a decent mobo? 100?

>>62176076
Nope. Might be just be the USB 3.0 hub. I don't know. Just don't plug more stuff into your mobo. What mobo you are getting is dependent on your CPU socket.

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>bought a vega
>havent even played any games, just look at it glow in my pc

>>62176104
>Its winter and you are simply staring at your space heater glow ebb and flow
/comfy/ Vega feels there anon

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>>62175416
>mfw AMD makes awesome CPUs now but suddenly sucks at vidya

Any good ATX mid cases that already have a lot of front fans and maybe a top fan installed?

>>62176314
How much are you willing to pay

>>62176314
>Budget
Antec 302
Corsair 300R

>>62176314
Included case fans are generally crap
Just get one with lots of mounts and add your own good fans

Scavenging my old pc to build a new one, basically I'll just buy a new budget case, cpu and mobo to last me until I feel like fixing the first one. My "have" list is
>corsair 650 psu
>gtx 1060 6gb
>cooler master cpu fan
>16gig corsair ram

And I'm buying
>Intel g4560
>asus strix b250
>apevia case
>windows 10

Tried to stay under 300 for my buy list, any suggestions on cutting costs?

>>62176390
Forgot to add 250 gig ssd to the have list, and a 1tb hdd, though I've never used them together

>>62176023
Just out of curiosity, what are you doing that requires 64gb of RAM?

What's a budget 144 hz, freesync, 1080p monitor

>>62176335
>>62176378
Alright but I don't care if its loud as FUCK. I want the best airflow possible.

>>62176419
Recently got an AG241QX. 1440p is definetly worth it

>>62176104
>>62176126
amd is always comfiest during winter

>>62169824

I am trying to build a poverty-tier build with 2nd hand shit.

I know i mustnt buy shit from chinks, but in ali express for 110 eur i have a processor on par with ryzen 3 (X5650) with 8 gb RAM and mobo included

So build would be:

Mobo + cpu + 8gb ram: 110 eur
Gtx 770: 75 eur
Everything else (HDD, case, etc): 60 eur

245 eur for that build. Wat do u think?

>>62176104

Vega is a Server card: https://twitter.com/GFXChipTweeter/status/902899280226131968

>>62176495
Can't you get sued for advertising it as a gaming gpu?

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>>62176413
VMs, compilation and faffing about with tensorflow (not work, just fun)
Also, occasionally vidya - but that doesn't need 64GB.

pic related is right now.
I've run this thing out of ram a bunch of times, but I don't trust swapfiles on SSD.
I was considering a 32GB Optane to use for swap, but decided against it for now.

>>62176519
Why? It is the same for the 3.5 fiasco. Buyer remorse and blind fanboyism will make Vega buyers not want to sue them.

>>62169824
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VRDFVY

>mfw I recently built a PC some months ago

>>62176390
>g4560
iirc that is a kaby lake CPU, so having a b250 mobo would make buying a k series non ideal. Get a lower end mobo that is z270

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what overclock would give the best performance boost to minecraft in fps and worldgen?

>>62176585
Budget?

>>62176616
whatever tickles my fancy

also https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9qGDLD

updated with a ssd since I want to use the full 4tb. wouldn't mind going up more in tb but price/storage ratio didn't seem worth it especially since error rates isn't lessened either.

>>62176625
good lord son

>>62176390
>>62176587
forgot to add, buying a b250 with a k series essentially makes the cpu unable to overclock. also, check out the corsair spec 04 as a case, cheaper than your other pick, just without optical drive (if you're using that, I use USB just fine)

>>62176625
above 4TB you're better off just splitting it amongst separate drives anyhow

>>62175277
how? why is gpu more important than cpu?

>>62176625
only thing I'm actually hesitant on is the 1080 ti. Most likely will wait it out on that one honestly.

Don't mind paying for original retail price but I'll be damned if I pay inflation bullshit.

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>tfw getting this next week
>no more pc building hell
>justwerks
>Stylish
>fast
>AGA for 1080 Ti goodness

Wew

>>62176706
>doesn't enjoy the sadistic nature of PC building
>t. laplet

>>62176587
So for this application let's say, an msi Z270 PC mate would work?

>>62176625
Got damn. I thought going for a 2K build was gonna be hard.

>>62176685
>why is gpu more important than cpu?
Cause GPU = Graphic Processing Unit

>>62176726
it's mostly just the monitor and gpu that makes it outrageous.

I'm doing a build for my MIL who only uses the PC to check Facebook and buy shit off Amazon, with some Netflix thrown in. It's going to run Windows 7. Is 4GB of RAM enough or should I bump it to 8GB?

>>62176706
>Ayylmaoware
There is no 1080ti laptop that doesn't bottleneck

>>62176625
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvTRd6
this might tickle your fancy.
>this build is only for the rich https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Q4Yjc

>>62176720
just finished my third ever build a few days ago, and it was the first time I ever had any real issues getting it all to work

only made it that much more satisfying when I finally did

>>62176741
Buy her a macbook and save yourself the headache of being tech support

>>62176725
Yeah, any z270 will work, be sure it has all the usb ports/connectors that you want

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>>62176788
Alright. So just to tard proof my purchase, these are the 3 items I've got ready to go, theoretically (unless my psu is somehow fried, it's 5 years old) I've got all the stuff I need to harvest from my old computer and build a newer one. Correct?

>>62169824
I got a Sapphire RX580 Nitro+ for 270€
I feel bad for the pic related of OP

>>62176760
I took it seriously for a few seconds.

>>62176760
heh

Also already got the R5 currently so gonna go with the NZXT just to switch things up.

>>62176854
Also
>buy blue/white case
>only have red led fans to swap
Murica build I guess

>>62176854
you're carrying over DDR4 RAM, right?

>>62176894
Yeah, from an older mobo but still ddr4

>>62176854
Should be good to go, but I'd enter everything into pcpartpicker just so there is no other compatibility issues, other than that enjoy your build

>>62169824
legitimate question
why arent the am4 athlons in the OP for the poverty build section? yes they technically run piledriver arch but 1 - they're cheaper and 2 - you can actually upgrade later on, something that matters a lot to the impoverished

>>62176854
what PSU, specifically?
I'd probably get that one new too, unless you bought whatever was the hot shit last time

>>62176954
Corsair gs600. Like 40 bucks to pick up another if I need it, am I safe to try out the old one without frying anything? Prime one day shipping can get me the part if I need it, but if I don't need it then that's cool too.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6173-RX

Get it, you fucks.

>>62176944
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2950&cmp[]=2925
just look at that, you're comparing a 54.99 cpu with an upgrade path for the next 4 years to one that costs upwards of 80 with no where to go

>>62176997
>AIB
>Cheaper than Vega56
Why do people even buy Vega?

>>62176997
I already got the 1060 6gb refurb last week for $230. It's working like a charm currently.

Red white and blue tower again, this is what I end up with with old parts and new parts. Can I get back to dirt rally with this? I only need 300$ of these parts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m4R6wV

Also will the cooler master clear this case? I just want to avoid as many RMA as possible, I want this thing in one fell swoop

>>62176978
Just saying, you'll probably want to replace it in a couple years anyhow, and then you have to do your cable management all over again

>>62177049
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m4R6wV
>pentium g4560
>ddr4-2133

absolutely disgusting

>>62177073
Gotta be cheap, if I could go lower I would

>>62177049
why not go for a cheaper b350 and a 1300/x? would be about the same price and a fair bit faster, and guarantees upgradability in the future. You can usually hit 3.9 safely on the anemic stock fan as well.

>>62177113
wouldn't recommend going over 3.8-ish on stock Wraith

>>62177126
the voltage was 1.325 at 3.9 and max temp was ~65 on the stock wraith via master utility during prime 95. the 212 on the guide would be easily able to bring that way way down

>>62177113
If I interpreted this correctly it's another msi board and a different cpu? I'll look into them, I always sit on my purchases for a little bit to make sure I don't get anything stupid

>>62177089
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is literally 13$ more

I want to upgrade my carbide 400C. Any good alternative? I Love this case and want something similar.

>>62177158
This is actually what I have, couldn't find it on the part picker so I threw in a place holder

>>62177152
I just mean you can get an am4 b350 for a lot cheaper than the intel one and it would make up the cost difference in the cpus while also doubling the core count, increasing speed, and allowing for cheaper future upgradability

>>62177049
don't buy windows legit, there are like 5$ keys all over the internet
also wtf do you need a cd/dvd burner for

>>62176997
>Limit 4 per household

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>>62177217
I don't necessarily, but I've got one so I added it for a complete build
>>62177178
You mean like this then? Saved a little bit by going to a mtx board, but that's offset by the cpu, unless I'm retarded and can't shop

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r8 my build. This'll be my first pc build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rttBKZ

>>62177347
Woops forgot something.
Updated: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CscvM8

>>62177347
You are on a budget so that is fine I guess. CPU is overkill for you build but whatever, you don't have to upgrade it in years I guess,.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TW8VY
R8 pls bois

>>62177425
LED/10

is there a general consensus on what percentage over the listed power draw overclocking will go? Assuming acquitted cooling by normal means (not Ln2 or pelt ect.)

pcpartpicker obviously just lists stock estimates, and I'm trying to figure how a better guess of how much power I will need.

>>62177476
Check overclocking guides.
Different CPU/GPU pull different power draw when overclocked. Like the Vega64 which pulls an insane 600W off the walls when OC'd.

>>62177476
The general rule is 100 over whatever PCPartPicker says.

>>62177370
>DDR-2133MHz
Get faster RAM since you have a Ryzen CPU. You probably don't need a R5 1600 unless you're going for intense video editing or streaming, and you need more cores/threads for it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bwVTLD

>>62176742
>Wew im shit posting again!

>>62172426
Fucking what?

>>62177370
try to get 8gb ram, consider >>62177486

>>62177534
>Buys Ayylmaoware
>Accuses others of shitposting

>>62177559
its not like i can just BUILD a laptop

>>62177591
But you can choose to buy good laptops but you chose to buy the most gaymer type from possibly the worst gaymer branded laptops.

If you're looking for a 1060, this is your chance:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901

>>62177486
>>62177556
Hold up so the 2 sticks of 4GB RAM I selected wouldn't be considered having 8GB of RAM?

>>62169824
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/V6DNM8

any tips appreciated. Should I go for 16gb of ram from the start or wait.

>>62177915
Drop the CPU cooler and get 16 GB ram.
Inshallah brother.

>>62177915
Get rid of the CPU cooler, get an EVGA PSU, 16gb of RAM, get the PC MATE instead of the Tomahawk.

>just dropped $3k on a rig with 1080ti
>also new monitors 1440p 144hz gaymens
>my reward for not being a neet

Secretly panicking I overspent, or that it'll get stolen off front porch.

>>62178101
Have fun with your diminishing returns.

>>62178101
Jamal gets a new free gaming rig.

>>62178120
I'll still be rockin this beast in 8 years when all you spergs have gone through 5 different CPUs/mobos/GPUs spending way more than I originally did.

IMO invest in the best in PC hardware, and stick with it for as long as it takes you.

>>62178172
In 8 years that 1080ti will be crap tier. Next generation that 1080ti will be as good as a 1170 at best.

The point of high end cards is that they are better than the midrange but you pay a huge premium. They do not make sense economically at all.

What's the opinion on Shipment insurance? Scam? Thought the postal service is responsible of making sure your product is actually delivered and in good condition?

>>62178223
If your shipment is above 500 dollars, I will get insurance.

>>62178211
gotta have those last 10 fps brah

Brahs, should I get an R5 1600 now or just get a 1200 and wait for Zen+/Zen2 before going all out on a 6/8/10/12 core chip?

>>62178211
in ausfailia currently the 1080ti is 2x the price of 1070, but i thought 1080ti was right around 2x the speed? isn't it decent value?

>>62178211
GPUs don't decay. The 1080Ti means I can play every game out now + 2 years in future at high/max settings on 1440p/144Hz. That will take me a long while to get through (been out of AAA gaming since late 00s).

Sure, I may have to start tuning down settings for some games 3 yrs+ from now. Big deal. Honestly I can only see games pushing past the 1080Ti by doing more extreme particles like Destiny 2 (disgusting), or with VR (don't care yet). I'm betting future game innovation will require more CPU processing / multithreading for multi agent AI compute.

I figure paying a bit more now means I get to enjoy the best gaming experience possible for the next few years, rather than always being stuck in middling territory and feeling that envy to upgrade.

>Want to play at 1440p 144Hz
>1070 and 1080 are at same price/perf ratio as 1080Ti
>Vega is overpriced and unstocked
>I have money

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Did science go to far?

>>62178632
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""quantum"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" LED

are silly marketing buzzwords for new technologies like this really effective on the unwashed masses? guess I'm just so disconnected from the thought process of a typical brainlet pleb.

>>62178632
>32:9

what did they mean by this?

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AAAAAAAH

>>62178556
What are you running currently

>>62178718
>one giant monitor
>multitasking
Just fucking multi-monitor then

Is there any such thing as a good monitor? TN panels have mediocre at best image quality due to vertical gamma shift, IPS panels have glow and garbage contrast ratio, VA panels have woefully slow pixel transitions on certain colours making them useless for HFR.

It just seems like there's nothing worth buying.

>>62172646
Did you plug your screen in the graphics card, and not in the motherboard?

>>62178731
X5650 @ 4.36ghz

>>62174520
It's not bad. It's very expensive, and you won't gain anything by storing your music or movies on an SSD instead of a HDD.
Also you're using its life more quickly I suppose.

>>62175253
6/10

>>62176148
>suddenly
they always have.

>>62178784
Modern SSDs have write endurance of decades if not centuries.

>>62178748
No. At some point you to pick what you want your monitor to suck at. If it makes you feel better, actual good broadcast monitors make all the gaymen shit look like total ass in terms of image quality anyway, so you might as well go for the HFR stuff.

>>62175877
If you don't plan on keeping it for a long time, and are ok with playing on medium graphics, get a 1050 Ti.

>>62176625
absolutely get 3200MHz ram, and a good mouse.
since you have fuckoff money you could just get an M.2 SSD.
you don't need that good of a power supply, a 80+ Gold with 650W would be enough. but having the one you chose isn't bad in any way of course.

>>62176760
>doritos and mountain dew
>not poptarts

What should I get if I I'm coming from an R9 290?

>>62176854
that fucking case is the same price as an S340, what the fuck

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YGhJLD

r8 me boiz

>>62171001
Tell me, i won't tell anyone about it

>>62177591
you kind of can actually, some laptops have removable CPU, GPU, RAM and HDDs, and different screen options etc.

>>62177885
yes it would, that second anon must have misread. but it's slow ram. faster ram does make a difference.

>>62178826
mesuring in time makes no sense.

>>62178978
Looking good. If you plan on playing the latest AAA games at 165fps in 1440p though, you should have gotten a Ti.

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>>62178718
Nah.

>>62179106
thinking about down grading the monitor, just not sure what to yet

AOC AG271QG any good? Can get it used "like new" for €580, which is much cheaper than the brand new prices of ~€700.

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>Games are going multi core and multi thread
>You don't need CPU with good single thread performance
>mfw

>>62179374
MMOs are dead.

>>62179388
>Your game don't count

>>62179374
>https://www.overclock3d.net/news/software/destiny_2_will_be_able_to_take_advantage_of_high_core_thread_counts_on_pc/1
>bungie lied

>>62179374
>playable on highest setting 1080p60 on an R3 1200
nice
that's with a 1080 though I'm assuming

>>62179398
>Developers having been lying about multi core support since 2012
>People act surprised in 2017
>People are still conned by it in 2017
And that is why if you are gaymen just get the i7-7700k

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Here is benches for 1440p/High
The setting that most people with 1080ti/1080 will be gaming on if they want 1440p/144hz and the Ryzen 7 1700 doesn't even hit 100 FPS max.

is a $300 1060 gb worth it to buy now? our prices are usually higher than MSRP.

>>62179460
6GB? Or 3GB?

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got a Vega + Motherboard + 1800X + H110i + gskill RGB 3200 for $1300 from PC Microcenter

>>62179482
Overkill CPU
Shit GPU
Clearly you are not poor so you must be a fucking AMD moron.

>>62179474
sorry it's 6 gb

>>62179510
Overpriced by about 20-30 dollars. But it isn't that bad.

>>62179514
anything tech is usually + $40 here. so I guess it's a good deal.

>>62177425
Don't buy cooler

>>62179482
Had a i5-3570K and R9-290x before.

Also this - >>62179514
$340 for mobo+1800X or $310 for 1700X. Might as well go the gusto

>>62177915
Don't buy cooler

>>62179527
>Had a i5-3570K and R9-290x before.
So how does it compare? Any better?

>>62175253
Don't buy water cooler

>>62179086
It does when you consider the decades/centuries are of non-stop torture writing.

Modern SSDs will fail for other reasons before the NAND wears out.

i got discounted i7 7700k by 50 pounds, how fucked im?

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I want to upgrade some of my hardware, here's what I got (posting from work so I don't remember exact specs):

~i5-3330 Quad-Core
GTX550 Ti 1GB
8GB RAM
500GB HDD (yeah I haven't got to transferring to an SSD yet even though I have a spare one lying around)

I thought about getting a GTX1050Ti, is there anything else that is seriously bottlenecking me? I don't care about max details, just upgrading a lil' bit, am poorfag

>>62179614
I'm having a hard time believing that, have we really come that far in like 5 years?

>>62179774
If you want a quick and cheap upgrade, do a clean install of the OS on your SSD because you already fucking have it. and then see if you still want to buy something else.

>>62178750
Yes, I did do this. Plugged into both - nothing.

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Which of these is going to happen if you use a PSU that's too weak to power your components?

1. The thing won't boot.

2. Crashes under load.

3. The PSU turns your PC into a sea of flames.

>>62179946
Instability which if ignored will kill your psu and when it dies, you hope nothing dies with it.

fuck do i get a 1060 or 1070

>>62180035
1080

>>62180035
>>62180074
Unironically this

>>62180074
>>62180120
dont have the shekles for it, prices are fucked

I've put a computer together. Everything seems to work - fans spin, graphics card, motherboard lights up. However, there is no signal to my monitor. Nor does my USBs connect. Any ideas?

>>62179856
I did this and it completely rekt my PC, is it possible to just buy a bad ssd? I had to scrub everything and go back to my hdd.

>>62180398
kind of but not really, what do you mean by rekt my pc?

>>62180446
Started getting memory errors, windows started to look for files that it couldn't find, or were corrupt. Tried the install from a fresh USB and even from the disc, still had the same problem.

>Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming
>$829AUD
>$500USD
What am I meant to do about this? Is there a better alternative for muh vidya?

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>>62179856
yeah, I suspect that might do a lot

would 1050Ti a good choice tho? I could spare another $100 more if there's a better option

>>62180538
are you still using your old windows install?

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Any good monitors out there? my pricerange is 0-100euros
just want a good monitor with decent colors, not planning to game on it

>>62180650
Yeah, same install. This one from the oem DVD rather than a USB. I thought about upgrading to 10 to see if it helps but logically I don't see how it would.

>>62180389
Please help. I've checked the archive, but fear it is a problem with my motherboard...

>>62180827
do you have a motherboard speaker?

My GPU core is dropping a lot, is there a problem with that? 139/607/1290/1392MHz.
I've heard something about bottleneck and i don't know if my computer have that. I can play Fallout 4 in ultra 1600x900 at 35-65 fps and CS:GO at 90-160.

http://i.imgur.com/PRJvPWl.png
Can i do something to get better performance without buying anything? I've already tried to overclock once, but my screen just went black and i couldn't use my computer.

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>>62180726
PLS RESPOND

>>62181039
Use MSI Afterburner and check your GPU usage and clockspeeds during gaming. Check whether the GPU or CPU is running at 100% usage. If it does most of the time, then your GPU is a bottleneck. If it's the CPU, your FX-8120 is at fault.

HDV and VDH motherboards are the versions that are shit for OC?

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