>>62138202 Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thr

>>62152136
OK NEW TO LINUX BUT WTF IS GENTO A DINOSAUR ?

only used manjaro and xubuntu so far

FUCK YOU CANONICAL

Can someone redpill me on systemd? Thanks.

How much does it really matter to run a customized Gentoo setup vs. Arch?

>>62152136
>https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

what do you mean break from botnet ? wtf is that

is it real or you crazy

>>62152207
it's subjective. if you can't justify it, don't do it

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>>62152136
>new font update
How beautiful I no see

>>62152136
>>https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux
I have several problems with this .. whats the point if you dont have custom pc components ?

second -riot.im is theirs ((()))

third- arent Tors exit nodes under government control ?

good luck with no java script

duckduckgo didnt the founder sell data before ?

final setting up your own domain host for email service is too hard and slow for us normal users

>>62152345
dont follow the advice if you dont like it dude
i disable JS for most sites i use and it's still fine...

>>62152392
well it would be hard for me since I use ZeroNet and the run on js

>>62152205
It's fast, it works, it's highly configurable.

You can not escape from systemd.

I can chose between OpenGL 2.0, OpenGL 3.1 and xRender for composition. Which one should i chose? The default one is OpenGL 2.0.

Repost from the last thread. Need more opinions.

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>>62152215

>Every breath you take
>Every move you make
>Every bond you break
>Every step you take
>I'll be watching you.

>Every single day
>Every word you say
>Every game you play
>Every night you stay
>I'll be watching you.

>>62152136
>you wouldn't fuck your aunt
Let me stop you right there

>>62152486
low quality bait

>>62152576
as long as they just watch

>>62152616
It's not bait.

>>62152576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>62152911

gpg -ac --cipher-algo AES256
shred -u

>>62152207
Gentoo doesn't have systemd out of the box, so I'd say you're coming out on top with it.

>>62152911

for h in {-4096..4096..200};{ for g in {-8192..4096..115};{ x=0;y=0;for((i=0;i<30&&x*x+y*y<1<<26;i++));{((v=((x*x-y*y)>>12)+g));((y=((x*y)>>11)+h));x=$v;};d=$[i%10];printf "\e[3${d}m$d\e[m";};echo;}

>>62152911

git commit suicide

>>62152911
w

>>62152911

curl -s -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/keroserene/rickrollrc/master/roll.sh | bash

quick question - will i have any issues with Linux on AMD hardware? AMD A10 processor, gfx radeon R6. It's a Lenovo z50 laptop.

>>62152962
neat

>>62152911

head /dev/urandom | base64 -w 0

>>62152988
neato

>>62153049
+ | lolcat

>>62152988
wtf
>>62152911
when you need an alphabet or numbers from 1-100
echo {a..z}
echo {1..100}
works also backwards

if i start makin my own kernel from scratch, at what point is my kernel linux

>>62153245
when you give up and install linux

>>62152305
Get back to work, Chris

So I'm clueless as to installing a Desktop Environment for Arch, and have been surfing the wiki for a while.

For practicing purposes, I want to install Gnome to get it working. I've downloaded xorg, gdm, gnome, and the xf86-video driver. Now I'm stuck.

>>62153326
Why not xfce?

>>62153326
have you done anything to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?

>>62152608
This

>>62153326
install xorg-xinit
edit .xinitrc with 'start program'
go to tty
type in 'startx'
done

Follow the arch wiki post install

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            \   :-""``/`    |
             `;'     //`\   /
             /   __     |   ('.
            |_ ./O)\     \  `) \
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       .-=; `                  /   `-.
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                     |  |  |  |-._      '.           .'
                     /  |  |  |__.`'---"_;'-.     .-'
                    //__/  /  |    .-'``     _.-'`
                  jgs     //__/   //___.--''`

>>62153561
This is a KOSHER thread.

how can I make all windows in i3 floating?

>>62153579
Not use i3

>>62153561
nice piggo ^_^!

Is there any legit reason for mem cache dropping?
I keep seeing aliases like sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches but why would one do this?

>>62153579
Read the docs on window rules, make a wildcard for all windows to float.

>>62153668
Wine throws a paging issue when you have all your ram cached.
If you dont have swap and you oom,it will clear the ram cache

>>62152305
http://ix.io/w6A
font pasta for freetype2.7+

>>62152999
no, radeon driver is fine

>>62153326
# systemctl start / enable gdm

Does Gentoo have a live CD or something? I'd like to try it before making all the install work.

>>62153762
That's not how Gentoo works.

>>62153762
the installcd is a livecd

>>62152195
embrace gentoo as our true lord and savior from the botnet

>>62153762
cloveros is a pre-configured gentoo

>>62153354
I tried it, but one thing bothered me. Whenever I clicked the "terminal" icon, it would open a new instance instead of jump to the current window. Perhaps there is a way to re program that, but I'm not too familiar with customization.

>>62152486
t. lennart "wontfix" poettering

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Missed the desktop threads so I went to the "unixporn" reddit. Reddit really is as bad as everyone says.

>>62154016
>it would open a new instance instead of jump to the current window
That's exactly what people expect from a terminal.

>>62154031
What kind of things Lennart won't fix?

>>62154040
Reddit used to be decent. Now it's just a shill site and hive mind but somehow worse than this shit hole

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>>62154048

>>62154040
I've been on the unixporn reddit thing a few times and i mean, it's ok.. i havn't been on any other reddits so..

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>>62154048
.

shit question, but since Arch dropped support for i686 processors, what's a good distro for an old netbook with an atom processor and 1gb of ram?

only using it for ssh'ing and js-less browsing desu

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>>62154071
It was full of god awful color schemes and people making posts like "just switched over from windows XDD" with shit that looked like a 2008 rainmeter setup, etc.

I just installed Ubuntu along with Windows 7 and every time i boot Ubuntu and then back to Win, Windows time change 4 hours back... H-how do i fix?

>>62154080
You're pretty soon gonna be locked down to gentoo I think

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>>62154131
>tfw forced into the meme

>>62154125
on ubuntu change your time settings from utc to localtime

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>>62154132

>>62152136
Wait, what? Why? I totally would if I could though.

>>62154132
>retard flat tux
>Ctrl: redo
>Ctrl: start visual block mode

>>62154040
They're called "screenfetch thread" now. Go create one.

>>62154185
I installed it on my Dell D820 when Arch dropped i686 support. I got wifi almost working... it only works at my parents' house? lol

>>62154228
My desktop is too bland right now. I prefer calling them "window manager threads" or whatever.

>>62154187
Thanks! Youre the best!

>>62154228
why accept cuckoldry, these threads are called /desktop thread/ - no time for love

>>62154048
in addition to these fine examples
>>62154062
>>62154076
have a classic:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420j

>>62154263
404

>>62154062
He's right. We should remove . and .. from the content of a folder. In 20 years i never a case were it was useful, but I see 10000...000 case were it was dangerous.

Why do you think Lennart softwares spread? Because he's right and try to fix awful hacks coming from the past.

>>62154286
Excuse me, seems like I accidentally added a j at the end of the link. Here, for your convenience https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420

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>>62154299
He isnt right and he is proven wrong in that same image..He got all good with redhat and does what ever they tell him to do. People see "oh redhat is using it,it must be good" and blindly adopt it.systemd is now a dependency for programs that dont even fucking touch it. Not only did he lie blatantly about the goal of systemd and how he was goign to handle it, hes covered up what he said in the past to make it more convenient for him instead of providing features.Such as udev being forkable

>>62154048
Well, there are tabs within one terminal, so I wouldn't feel the need to open up more than one window of it. Does that make sense, or would their truly be a purpose to having multiple windows open for what can be tabbed?

>>62154263
Dont forget this follow up
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/580

>>62154361
Not him, but I often have 3 tmux sessions visible in separate windows. Local machine, and two different remote servers. I like them to all be visible at once, so windows work better than tabs.

>>62154361
You use your terminal like you want. But for me I have one widow for each term, and my wm handle tabs for me.

I've just installed Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 on Thinkpad x230, everything just werk, but I don't know how to enable inertial scrolling (when it keeps scrolling after you give an acceleration to it), how do I enable it?

I have a monitor attached through HDMI and I'm trying to get the audio working.

pacmd list-sinks doesn't show it. aplay -l shows some HDMI stuff but none of them seem to work. How do I fix this?

>>62153762
It does actually. But Gentoo is rolling release so it's a bit awkward to make stable versioned releases. Every few years though they make one.
Just go to their download page and you want the "Hybrid ISO (LiveDVD)". Note that it's dated at 2016-07-04, while the other minimal cd option is much more recent at 2017-08-24.

>>62153744
thanks - booted it up all seems to work fine.. even my bluetooth headset connected with no config.

Linux really does just werk

is there any way to make the speed at which windows fade in and out when using

compton -f

? its incredibly slow by default and it is distracting, but no fade at all is pretty unpleasant

>>62152136
ummmmm about that...

>>62154808
install pavucontrol

>>62154928
>Gentoo is rolling release
>current kernel on gentoo
>4.4.9
>Gentoo is rolling release
>Gentoo is rolling release
>Gentoo is rolling release

>>62153762
redcore linux

How do I get Japanese input to work correctly? I'm using Manjaro with Gnome3

Should i use IBus or fcitx

>>62155045
pavucontrol doesn't show it either.

>>62154981
Change the option fade-delta in compton.conf.

>>62155078
Rolling != bleeding edge
Don't be a dunce

If it doesn't release "stable versions" that existing users update to on a regular basis then it's rolling

>>62155112
ibus + mozc

>>62155112
>>62155247
Also after you've installed them read the Arch wiki on mozc. It has a few environment variables you want to set so applications are aware of your input method

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how do I make the KDE clock not tiny as fuck when using a vertical taskbar?

>installed linux for the first time
>week later realize i'm never going to use 100gb on this partition and i should have split partitions 180-40 instead of 140-80gb for windows and linux respectively

>>62155441
pretty sure you can resize the partitions desu

I tried to install a player from .deb and got an error "dependency libpango or something not installed". How fucked am I? The program still installed.

>>62155577
>The program still installed
but maybe the library isn't

>>62155482
sorry, that's what i came to ask about but i posted too early
i did some quick reading on the subject earlier and it seems it's quite easy to brick your laptop so I thought I'd ask about it here
If I use the Ubuntu live disk (flash drive) with gparted to resize the Ubuntu partition, can it screw up my entire SSD/whatever space is allocated to the partition or will it just break linux installation, which althought bothersome, wouldn't be catastrophic because i've only been using it for a week and it's no biggie to reinstall?

>>62155617
Its my first Linux error. I'm scared ;_;

>>62155657
In my experience it will just brick it, you can't really resize linux partitions after creating them.

If you've only been using it a week then back everything up and reinstall.

>>62155435
>using a vertical taskbar
your first mistake was being gay

>>62156169
That's not very friendly anon.

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I don't currently use Linux, but I want to eventually switch since Windows is too shitty to use now with 10. A friend was telling me that there's a way to run a virtual Windows machine, but with very little overhead, and what would support 3d and all that fun stuff that something like VirtualBox doesn't, as long as my hardware supports passthrough. Sounds too good to be true. Can I run Linux and just virtualize Windows without any real issues or crazy overhead? Linux with games is the goal, but I assume that's just a pipe dream still.

I got to talk about my Linux/FOSS experiences in an interview. It felt rewarding after a lot of mucking around for little return. I think it demonstrated some level of technical competency.
I didn't get the job. Or any job. Which I guess makes that conversation the highlight of my week. Thanks Linux.

>>62155794
I used Gparted on the Ubuntu live disk and both windows and ubuntu 16.04 boot fine, I'm very relieved now

>>62156255
Nice

>>62153326
Everything you need is on the wiki. If you can't follow the instructions, you shouldn't be using Arch.

>>62155794
>you can't really resize linux partitions after creating them
BULLSHIT

>>62155792
pango is normally a big dep, just install libpango and be on your way

>>62156243
yeah GPU passthrough virtualization is real, problem is CPU bottlenecks a bit unless your running a rather lightweight linux distro

how do I enable bitmap fonts on linux mint KDE

>>62156506
What kind of overhead are we talking about? And is it across all cores, or will it stay on one core, and leave the rest free? It would probably just be Ubuntu/Debian to start with.

>>62156524
>What kind of overhead are we talking about?
not sure, with very lightweight distros i've heard you can get about 95-98% the performance of bare-metal, I remember some anon complaining that using pass-through virtualization on his daily driver was basically unusable, he didn't say any particular numbers tho

>>62156519
stop using mint

>>62156169
it saves space on displays that are widescreen

How can I try other desktop environments without fucking my whole system up, like applications being uninstalled?

Do I have to set up a virtual machine and try it there?

>>62156553
that's not very friendly

>>62156563
>Do I have to set up a virtual machine and try it there?
probably your best bet

>>62156519

sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
sudo fc-cache -f -v

>>62156564
it sucks

>>62156519
already tried this btw

rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf  
sudo fc-cache -fv  

>>62156591
ln yes-bitmaps into conf.d

>>62156608
still wont let me install bitmap fonts

>>62152205
It's cancer that wants to be the "plumbing" for Linux. It's a huge binary full of security holes and pointless features jammed into PID 1 that calls on a whole series of interdependent binaries (like 70 of them) to do things that we already had ways of doing in a worse, less portable way. Also Lennart and friends are terrible programmers who are also full of themselves and expect everybody else to do things their way, they even tried to claim that adding debug to the kernel command line should activate systemd debugging even though its the fucking kernel command line.

>>62152136
will these work on linux?
http://www.a4tech.com/sproducts.asp?cid=228`

What's better: white background with black text or black background with white text?

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>>62152911
Rate.

x='There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.'; tput smcup; tput civis; while :; do tput cup $((RANDOM%$(tput lines)+1)) $((RANDOM%($(tput cols)-${#x}+1))); printf '\e[%dm%s\e[m' "$((RANDOM%6+41))" "$x"; read -s -n 1 -t .01 && tput rmcup && tput cnorm && break; done

Quit with any key, don't ^C.

>>62156772
>don't ^C.
why?

>>62156794
Because when you ^C, the screen woun't get restored and the cursor keeps invisible.
>&& tput rmcup && tput cnorm

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Every single screenshot of Xfce looked like a cheap 90s screenshot.
KDE looks pretty, but doing anything feels so damn slow and I can't deal with its applications.
Working with Unity feels fast and it's pretty, but I feel ashamed for some reason. Also, with it being abandoned by Ubuntu, it sounds like a sinking ship.
GNOME looks awesome and I like the applications the most, but the focus on a tablet feeling and the activities screen must be the most retarded things to have ever been conceived.
Still have to to try Cinnamon.

But my biggest problem of all: I actually really want tiling WMs. I like the ease of configuring i3, but I just can't figure out how to eliminate the tearing with Compton, and I miss all the more complex functions like panels and widgets. I know it was the point, but i3 is just too simple.
Might have to look into other tiling WMs like Awesome, but nobody ever talks about them here.

>>62156731
Probably. Mice and keyboards are almost never an issue, even wireless ones.
What is likely to not work though is any features that need special software to operate. So the adjustable mouse DPI might not work and you'd be locked to 1 DPI setting (unless you could temporarily move the mouse to a machine that can run the software where you can adjust it and then move it back to your Linux machine, or adjust it through a VM or something)
But who knows, there might be a way to do it natively on Linux or someone might remake the software for Linux, it happens sometimes. But I wouldn't count on that.

>>62155435
please help

>>62156821
Awesome is nice.
https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats
https://github.com/copycat-killer/lain

>>62156243
It's called GPU passthrough and I use it to play gaymes. The overhead is unnoticable to me and people who have benchmarked said it usually gets like 99% or more of windows performance.
>>62156524
When you create the VM you give it however many cores you want to give it out of what you have available.
The two things you need are two GPUs (one can be the internal GPU if your CPU gas one) and hardware that supports vt-d/amd-vi.

What's the deal with OpenSUSE? Why do I get the feeling that it sucks ass?

I recently installed it because I got tired of how plain incomplete fedora felt on my machine, but this isn't much better. I am getting the feeling that they're mostly good at memeing and marketing, but not that great and producing a distro that is accessible and competitive with the rest. I tried finding general info that someone migrating to their distro would like to know, and they seem to have hidden it.

I've been on Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and Fedora so far, and they all did a solid job on their webpage. They all make a strong case as to what the distro has to offer, and you can easily get to a place on their webpage that tells you all you need to know to get up and running.

Just simple things, like the package manager. It's one of the first things you read about when migrating to a new system, and arguably one of the more important ones. apt-get, pacman, dnf, you always get told how to update and install new packages. The fact that this info wasn't in my face with OpenSUSE was a bit of a shock to me.

And I still don't really get it, like, why are they so proud of their GUI software centre YaST? Why aren't they using a terminal-based package manager like all other sane distros do? I get that you can use zipper, but what's the difference? Why isn't there a terminal interface for YaST? Why has this not been clarified to me already?

It seems whenever I go hunting on their website for info, I can only find pages telling me how I can contribute. It's like they're just a fascade, desperately trying to get people inside to actually complete the damn thing.

Am I just an idiot and OpenSUSE is actually good? Have I just been missing the right pages all along, clicking the wrong links? It's just weird to me. I found their wiki, but that seems written for people only now picking up a computer for the first time. How can this be one of the big names out there?

>>62156694
DID YOU TRY TURNING X OFF AND ON AGAIN?

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>>62156949

>>62156964
mite try that, thx senpai

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>>62156966

>>62156996
dumb frogposter

>>62156821
>Xfce looked like a cheap 90s screenshot
The default theme is pretty old but the greybird theme (what they use on xubuntu) is pretty good imo.

>>62156945
cute :3
any GIMP skilled anon who can reder it transparent?

>>62154040
You can find them on /w/ and /wg/ now. But before they were banned here, they got really, really, bad imo.

Tons of avatarfagging, trashposting and "muh private club" crap from irc and discord channels.

>>62157031
They weren't banned. Some retard spammed desktop threads and mods made desktop threads autosage.

>>62156949
OpenSUSE is pretty boring and I see it as more of an enterprise style distro, focused on a stable easy enough to use desktop. YaST isn't just meant to be a software center, it's meant to be a GUI frontend fir configuring various things. The software part is just a frontend for zypper anyway, so you aren't missing out when you use zypper on the terminal.

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>>62156949
>Just simple things, like the package manager. It's one of the first things you read about when migrating to a new system, and arguably one of the more important ones. apt-get, pacman, dnf, you always get told how to update and install new packages. The fact that this info wasn't in my face with OpenSUSE was a bit of a shock to me.
As an inexperienced Linux user, I've been using it for the past 4 weeks and still don't know how you're _supposed_ to install software. Using YaST is kinda infuriating sometimes.

Well, it's the only distro where I don't have tearing problems, so I'm forced to stick around.

>>62156821
>how to eliminate the tearing
If you're not a gamer then just switch from xorg to Wayland. From what I've heard that'll fix your tearing.

If you do want to play games and you use an NVidia card then you can eliminate tearing by doing this:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/how-to-an-update-on-fixing-screen-tearing-on-linux-with-an-nvidia-gpu.8892

Also
>Every single screenshot of Xfce looked like a cheap 90s screenshot
That is the pinnacle of computer aesthetics in my opinion.
I maintain that there is something deeper to "retro graphics" that speaks to the logical part of our minds. Perhaps it's the fact that limitations cause the underlying functionality of the computer to be more visible. Whenever I see old screenshots I just want to program something or seriously dig into the mechanics of a computer.
It's almost as if in the modern computer age "beauty" is associated with covering up the underlying mechanics of the computer with bandaids, but if I wanted to look at art I would go to a museum. I want my computer to look like a computer.
It's very unfortunate that everyone associates that style with just being "retro", outdated, or ugly. Its _true_ simplicity that makes it beautiful, not merely the appearance of visual simplicity like Windows and Mac shoot for.

That being said, I use i3.

>>62156848
Thanks anon

>>62157031
ugly desktop owner spotted

>>62156563
You can have more than one installed at once. It's up to your display manager or xinitrc which one gets loaded when you log in.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_manager

>>62155435
weren't the fonts adjustable? try using different font or use bitmap fonts

Fresh Arch install. How to display the ascii art logo in my terminal?

>>62157100
yeah but you can't change the size
I've noticed that if you use the 24 hour format the text is a lot bigger so maybe if there was a way to remove the AM/PM with the 12 hour that would help?

>>62156821
Just use i3 and install a more robust panel. I use xfce's because there are a lot of helpful plugins for it.

>>62156563
Install NixOS or GuixSD and do your testing there.

They are declarative OSes meaning that the state of the system is exactly determined from the config. If you remove something from your config you are guaranteed to have no side effects or residue whatsoever (except for possibly any some files in your $HOME directory, it won't remove those)

>>62157117
Install oh-my-arch-git from the AUR.

>>62156821
>>62157079
add vsync = "opengl"; in your compton config file. That should fix compton tearing.

>>62157089
Nope. I just didn't like how bad they got in the end. I understand it's a select "few" posters, but they honestly ruined the threads for people that genuinely wanted to learn to customize *nix.

>>62157157
>>62157117
or just use screenfetch
sudo pacman -S screenfetch

>>62157076
I see, thanks. I noticed that it had tons of extra control, besides handling plain old packages and whatnot. If it is meant to be a big control centre then that's fine, but goddamnit they should at least say something to that effect. I'll just keep using zipper until I inevitably get bored and move on to something else.

>>62157078
At least I'm not alone then, good to hear.

>>62157094
But aren't things changed when I install more DEs? How can you have multiple ones when they have different settings and programs installed?
For example, when I have a DE that has libreoffice and install one that has KDE's office suit, or even install a third one, doesn't that clutter everything up? I installed Gnome over Unity and searching for programs is confusing because it'd show me, like, 4 different applications to set up keyboard settings, all with the same name, but totally different interfaces.

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>>62157117
You mean this sort of thing? It's called screenfetch.

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>>62157026
I'm not a wizard this is literally baby tier image manipulation with krita

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God damn you! God damn you all to Hell /g/! You have given me the autism itch.

I'm going to be picking up a t60 or x60 to put Libreboot on and I want to know what the best version of Linux is to escape the botnet. Gentoo?

>>62157364
Gentoo uses nonfree software and will be a pain to use on a t60.
Try one of the gnu-approved distros or debian/fedora without the nonfree repos

>>62157364
>>62157391
here's the list of GNU approved distros that that anon is talking about:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html
and why they don't approve other popular distros:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

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Best distro to give to a normie? I was thinking Xubuntu LTS.

>>62157530
any of the *ubuntus pretty much or mint

>>62157391
>>62157425
Thanks, I had just started reading through these. However I have to ask, why would having the option to install non-free software automatically make these bad? Couldn't I just choose to only install free software?

>>62157550
yeah that's fine it doesn't really matter. it's just gnu memes

>>62157364
GuixSD, no contest. If you're already going the libre route this is their flagship and it's using the package manager of the future.

>>62157364
GNU Linux-libre

>>62157535
>a good distro for normies is a distro with lots of proprietary software

>>62157723
Yeah, that makes sense.

>>62157530
Xubuntu is good. Debian too. Don't fall for Mint.

>>62157723
pretty much

>>62157723
Normalfags deserve freedom too!

>>62157789
normies don't know what they want
when stuff like flash doesn't work they throw your freedom out of the window

>>62152136
I just learned grep (yeah) and it's insanely useful.

>>62157612
>>62157696
Thanks you for the suggestions. Both look promising and weren't on my radar yet.

>>62157803
Normies aren't stupid rats. You can tech them things. There's nothing wrong with - for example Debian - as first distro. I bet any human being can figure out how to install a wifi driver, if needed.

>>62157806
Now learn sed. Then learn awk. Then learn perl.

>>62157364
Debian, Trisquel, Parabola, GuixSD

>>62152136
For the record, I would literally fuck the shit out of my aunt.

>>62157972
same

>>62157530
DONT LISTEN TO THE RAPIST

>>62157850
Well then good news anon. You can have both. GuixSD USES Linux-libre as its kernel. Linux-libre is not a distro it's Linux (the kernel) but with all proprietary blobs removed.

>>62158174
Fair enough, I was just skimming the Wikipedia articles. I think it was the > Linux-libre is an operating system

Of "Linux-libre is an operating system kernel and a GNU package." that stood out to me so my brain just assumed. I was still reading about GuixSD so I didn't notice yet. Thanks for the info.

>>62157972
yeah who wouldn't unless you don't have hot aunts

>>62157220
You don't have to pull all of the applications with it, just install the packages that are part of the DE's interface (window manager, panel, file manager, plugins). It's certainly still a bit cluttered, but that will let you try them out without committing yourself to one.

>>62152414
If you let someone run arbitrary JS, they can trivially see through any kind of "anonymizing" you try to do.

Just be honest and say you're too lazy for any of this shit.

What is the best free font with Japanese characters?

good thread

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What's a nice lightweight browser without botnet?

Am linux nub here, how do I fix screen tearing in VLC? I've messed around with the video settings to no avail.

halp

>>62156695
>It's a huge binary full of security holes and pointless features jammed into PID 1
It aint a yuge binary with tons of pointless features in pid 1.

>>62154076

Explain what's wrong with that, where the problem in systemd is and how you would fix it.

>>62156695

>huge binary

du -h /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
1,6M    /usr/lib/systemd/systemd

>that calls on a whole series of interdependent binaries (like 70 of them) to do things that we already had
>complaining about something being exactly the same

>doing in a worse, less portable way
Please go down the list of every component and explain how it's worse.

>portable
I use Linux distributions. I don't care about whether or not it works on other operating systems.

As expected, just another idiot parroting things he doesn't really know anything about to seem cool to other idiots that ask questions like that on here.

>>62152136
I would definitely fuck my aunt, both of them.

I would totally fuck my aunt.

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Someone took a shit on the Arch Wiki stylesheet. Just look at this.

>>62161319
>>portable
>I

>>doing in a worse, less portable way
>Please go down the list of every component and explain how it's worse.
Nigga, pay attention to the news.

Entering "echo $EDITOR" as root gives me vim.
Which file sets that? I'm doing a recursive grep on my filesystem but it's taking ages. Is there a file I should be looking at?

>>62161440
this, op clearly has not seen my aunt

>>62161319
>>huge binary
>du -h /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
>1,6M /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
Sophistry. The systemd executable source has 10x more SLOC than any credible replacement. Hooking additional APIs into pid 1 is Windows bullshit.

>>62161702
Init scripts are not portable by definition though. They're all going to be hard coded for whatever distro, and a lot of them don't even use the same shell.

>>62161836
~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
Since it's root then ~ = /root

I don't know if there's some other place that sets some default, but you can definitely at least override it in there

>>62161887
there should be a place in /etc/ that sets global defaults

>>62152136
Any tips on how to reduce screen tearing in mpv?

>>62161902
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/how-to-an-update-on-fixing-screen-tearing-on-linux-with-an-nvidia-gpu.8892
or maybe use Wayland

>>62161900
Usually /etc/profile or /etc/$YOURSHELL_profile

>>62161887
>>62161900

I checeked and it's empty.
However, I did "su -" this time and EDITOR wasn't set. When I did "printenv" from a regular "su" all of my environment variables were inherited. Looking at the man page, it seems that inheriting them is the default if I don't use "su -l" or its alias "su -".

The reason I was looking into this was because "systemctl edit service" used Nano when I did it with "sudo", but vim when I ran it as root after switching with "su".
This brings me closer to figuring out how to make "systemctl edit" use my vim configuration when editing with sudo or to make it use sudoedit.

>>62161937
Set the env variable SYSTEMD_EDITOR= to your choice for systemctl edit, SUDO_EDITOR= for sudo -e

>>62161966

I'm trying, but failing miserably.

What I want is when I do

sudo systemctl edit service

for it to open the file with my EDITOR and to be able to save it.
Which combination of environment variables would achieve that cleanly?

>>62162017
The one I just mentioned? It works here
Have you exported it in your .bash_profile or something?
Have you logged out and logged back in?
Did you test it like this SYSTEMD_EDITOR=rvim sudo systemctl edit service
I just tried the above line with nano (I use rvim) and it works

>>62162059

SYSTEMD_EDITOR=vim sudo systemctl edit man-db.timer

opens Nano to edit the file.

Using

sudo -E systemctl edit man-db.timer

seems to respect my variables and everything works. However I'm concerned about the inherited variables causing errors. Is this a valid concern?

Slightly related, but I just realized that "sudoedit" is symlinked to sudo. I guess "sudoedit" is basicall sudo -e, right?

>>62162017
might be a dirty solution but you could just rename nano and symlink it to vim. Of course then you have to watch out for updates, so you have to make it immutable

>>62162098
Yes, sudoedit is basically sudo with -e implied.
Ah, try adding this to your sudoers file (visudo)
Defaults env_keep += "SYSTEMD_EDITOR"

>>62162017
also you have to set the VISUAL environment variable also to VIM, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nano#Replacing_vi_with_nano

>>62162186
Too hacky for my taste.

>>62162190
It works partially. It opens it in my editor, but it doesn't respect my editors configuration file. I guess because it looks inside the root directory for vim's config and not in mine.

>>62162195
Yes, but same issue as above.

I can't believe no one else has come upon this "problem" before.
Right now my best bet is either:

>to just use "sudo -E" (possibly alias it to sudoe)
>don't use systemctl edit, but create the files manually myself in the right location

I will never update my arch system again. After the update anki doesn't start up anymore, even after restart

>>62162277

Because they added the beta version of Anki 2.1.

>not knowing how to read your package manager's output and figure out things yourself

>>62162298
is it possible to revert?

>>62162302
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/downgrading_packages

>get new SSD
>maybe i'll try arch, why not
>installation goes fine
>only wifi AP available to me is WPA2 enterprise security which makes the process 20 times more convoluted
>cue 3 hour long wifi configuration before shit halfway works
>nothing fucking works correctly
>somehow putting the arch iso in made both of my usb drives incapable of booting no matter what fucking os image i put in
>one of them completely died
>trapped in this fucking OS until i get another usb

i was warned and still got memed on lads

>>62162391

I didn't expect someone who uses "meme" as a verb and universal word to be any smarter.

Guys, I fucked up.

I was trying to get openCV to work with Python and decided to reinstall python with "sudo apt-get remove python". This fucked my entire computer in ways I didn't even know was possible.

I'm running Ubuntu 16 and I have no top bar or task bar. The desktop is black and terminal (or anything else) isn't starting with shortcuts. The cursor is visible and moveable but there is nothing to click on. Upon starting, the logon screen is there as normal, acting exactly as it should.

What the fuck happened? Did I make some stupid rookie error? I can't find any similar problems when I searched.

Is there a way to fix this or do I just reinstall?

>>62162391
install gentoo

I need to adjust gamma to 1.2 in order for my monitor to display stuff correctly.
How do I achieve this in Ubuntu 16.04? So far I've been using xgamma -gamma 1.2 but I need to re-enter that stuff every time I boot up and sometimes afterwards too after starting an application or switching to another desktop.
The xserver app doesnt have a setting for gamma.
What do I do?

>>62162469

Reinstall Python.
Also, apt-get remove is not how you reinstall things.

>>62162610
>Also, apt-get remove is not how you reinstall things.
Well I figured I'd uninstall it then reinstall it

>>62162391
Arch is for experienced users only.

guys I've been struggling all day trying to get a usb drive to boot in UEFI mode. I format it with GPT scheme to FAT32, copy iso.
>Welcome to GRUB!
>error: unknown filesytem
>grub rescue>

>>62162548
add to autostart

>>62162647

There is a way to reinstall without removing it. Look into your package manager's documentations.

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Ive just installed Ubuntu. Anything out of place in the pic? Its my first GNU/Linux installation. I didnt install any proprietary drivers or anything. Only latest mesa from PPA.

Could you give a pic of the fat Arch Linux man?

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Is it possible to limit how many threads yaourt can use for building software?
I have Ryzen 1700, when trying to build icecat through yaourt, it uses all my threads and eventually my PC stops responding... When I have to reboot manually...
Tried compiling linux kernel with 8 threads, worked, but when I do this with all 16 threads my PC just hangs.

help me, friendly persons..?

>>62164921
yaourt just calls makepkg, configure makepkg (/etc/makepkg.conf)

>>62165069
OK, thank you very much.

>>62161877

Give examples of "Hooking additional APIs into pid 1".

>>62165110
np, also, you should figure out what the actual problem is, you should be able to max out your cpu indefinately
lowering load is just a workaround, not a solution

>>62163038
are you using a gigabyte motherboard?

I installed manjaro completely to a USB portable SSD, but the installer managed to install the EFI stuff on my windows WFI partition, even though i made a seperate EFI partition on the portable SSD, I used the correct flags and partition table also.

How can I fix my boot/efi manually? I can boot into the manjaro system just fine on the pc i used for installing the OS to the drive, but it will not boot on any other pc, since it does not have the correct EFI stuff

>>62165132
eh... most likely I got faulty CPU... there were complaints about ryzen CPU segfaulting while building software.
I can't really do too much in my country, I doubt store will do anything about it because they won't understand what's the problem (and it's already like 3 months after purchase).

As long as I don't build software with all 16 threads it's OK. :,)

>>62159949
w3m, lynx

>>62162469
The system needs Python. Many programs and scripts need it to run, same with Perl, etc.

Reinstalling Python should fix your problems. Next time you simply want to reinstall an already installed package: apt-get install --reinstall <package>

My OpenGL system info says "kernel module: unknown". Does that mean that I lack some system component? I have an AMD GPU. I use Ubuntu 16.04.

>>62163265
But then it would still mysteriously reset to default on some occasions

>>62165340
freethinker spotted

>>62165955
yep, I hate when javascript and pictures do the thinking for me. Wake up sheeple

I'm on Arch.

>>62157244
We can clearly see that you are not a wizard.

$ xclock
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
$ LC_ALL=C xclock
# no errors

How2fix? Took me ages to find the LC_ALL workaround.

can someone ***without any memes*** tell me if arch linux is actually good or is it just that everyone installs it because everyone installed it? also, does it break often? is it bloated?

>>62166409
Yes
No
No

>>62166409
Everything you know about Arch is made up community memes, take the red pill: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
Keys:
- simply only from the developer perspective
- more bloat than debian or gentoo
- breaks legacy conventions
- not much user freedom
- riddled with memes

>>62166409
arch is a nice distro if you dont care about freedoms and ignore those KISS memes
its the just werks distro for experienced users

>>62166521
>debian makes its system how the developers want
>gentoo makes its system how the developers want
>fedora makes its system how the developers want

If that wasnt the case, why are there so many third party repo's compared to archlinux?

>>62166551
Debian has votings.

>>62166562
You like to think that

>>62166551
>why are there so many third party repo's compared to archlinux?
Doesn't Arch literally live from third party repos (AUR)?

>>62166551
>relying on 3rd party repo by random pajeets
w-woah... so this is the power of arch

>>62166573
Arch has most common software in the normal repositories. For more obscure things, or Git/nightly type builds, the AUR has them - and for those, using the AUR is way better than shitty PPAs.

>>62166609
Using official packages is way better than the shitty AUR.

>>62166588
>debain
>have to enable third party repo to get basic drivers functioning.
>system is LITERALLY gimped from the start unless you enable these repos.
Weee lad

>>62166637
>arch
>comes with all modules known enabled
>system is literally cucked from the start unless you deblob your kernel
Weee lad

>>62166656
OH NO ALL 1KB WORTH OF MODULES ENABLED
OH NO

Arch works out of the box for 99% of hardware vs what debian or even fedora supports

>>62166409
it's a rolling release distro where you're expected to manually install it, I'm not sure what you're expecting from it but after you've got everything setup and installed it's comparable to 99% of netinst distros minus the need to update to a new release as, naturally, you're on a rolling release

the biggest selling point of arch is the aur, other distros have something comparable(*) but at this point if you have a package you want to install there's probably someone that's packaged it for aur whereas other distros are playing catchup in that regard, it's like the arch wiki, it's a great wiki for everything linux orientated and other wikis generally are playing catchup, that's not to say you should use arch as some things will bite you in the arse but just be aware of the way other distros handle these things too
(*) gentoo pkgbuilds, fedora copr, ubuntu ppa, slackware... well slackware .tar.gz, opensuse has a neat buildsystem that provides packages for every distro, docker as distro agnostic arguably, etc

>>62166678
>uses Arch
>too stupid to install a driver
"""Advanced""" Arch user spotted

>>62166521

>legacy conventions
Aahahahghaghaghahgahgahgahgag.

Stop posting you fucking retard.

>>62166697
So tell me, for example, why Arch is literally the only distro which breaks PEP by linking python to python3?

>>62166678
>Arch works out of the box for 99% of hardware vs what debian or even fedora supports
fedora uses the vanilla kernel with some rhel patches so if it works on arch it'll work on fedora with the same kernel version, the reason debian doesn't support any hardware however is because it's the only major distro to use linux-libre, if you're going to meme do it right

>>62166656

>modules enabled
>complains about not loaded modules
I don't think you know how modules work. Retard.

>using cuck
Just cancel your internet connection already, because it's obviously too late for your mommy to abort you.

>>62166712
python3 is the latest version of python. Arch is a rolling release distro.It uses the latest software.
If python didnt want python3 to be used, they would have never have created a python3.

Arch uses the latest software

>>62166712

Oh, it's you again. The retard that doesn't understand how distributions work.
People have explained it to you countless times. Everything works. Except for your excuse for a brain.

See this >>62166733 (you most likely are already that person).
Stop wasting precious 4chan kilobytes for your retarded posts. You are actively contributing to everyone losing intelligence by making them read your imbecile posts.

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I am on fresh openPePe 42.3 install. How do I stop Sorosfox fonts from doing Jihad to my eyes?

>>62166686
>the biggest selling point of arch is the aur
i'd say thats a flaw, the aur fixes no existend packages in the official repos
it makes "installing stuff from literally who" a normal thing
>the arch wiki
i read the arch wiki myself, but don't use arch and I think many people do the same
theres no reason to install a distro because the wiki is cool

>>62166734
>being this stupid
FYI python2 programs work different than pytho3 programs; they aren't compatible. Do you even program.

>>62166802
Update your shitty programs to support python3.
Thats how software works, new versions come out and you update accordingly

>>62166734
This is the mindset of Archusers.

What is the best distro? Please tell me, I want to install it and go on with my life ASAP.

>>62152205
It's OK and works a lot better than whatever crappy shellscript system people used before. I honestly think Linux needed something like it. The only ones mad are the "POSIX" people who don't like it when someone deviates from their old ass standards that nobody actually gives a fuck about. Some of the maintainers employed by Red Hat can be pretty idiotic at times though. They caused hardship for the kernel people and got roasted on mailing lists, it was hilarious.

The entire systemd drama is a thing because nobody I've ever talked to actually knows what an "init" system even is or what a "PID 1 program" is even supposed to do or not do. I don't know either. To this day I still haven't been able to find any documentation or manual page that explains what the Linux kernel actually expects from PID 1. The init manual page just tells me what systemd does, not what Linux expects from an init system. If anyone knows and can provide the links... I'd love to educate myself more.

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>>62166854
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>62166866
I'm closing this post.

>>62166866
You completly missed the point about the systemd drama. It's not about what you say it is. I suggest you to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo

>>62166866
GNU/Linux*

>>62161836
sudo update-alternatives --config editor

>>62166885
#rekt

>>62166885
i don't support systemd, but i also don't support poettering hate
all he does is working of open source software everyone can freely use or not and part of being a human is mistakes, no reason to target all the hate to one guy

>>62166631
Sure, and Arch has official packages just like other distros do. Except Arch's packages are up-to-date and other distros' packages are not. Using something like Ubuntu, you absolutely will be forced to use random PPAs to install software.

>>62166964
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/580

>>62166976
>Arch's packages are up-to-date and other distros' packages are not.
ebin meme

>>62166976
Sounds like you never used a different distro than Arch.

>>62166913
No, literally just Linux. I don't really care much for the GNU userspace. Most of my programs talk directly to the kernel and have zero dependencies on GNU.

>>62166893
I don't have 45 minutes. Seeking to random points, I saw "init freedom" and "programs shouldn't depend on init" slides. Is this another "systemd shouldn't absorb stuff" video? Because I honestly couldn't care less if it absorbed sudo or even bash. Unless Linux itself somehow becomes dependent on systemd I literally don't care how much userspace it consumes.

>>62166885
Yeah those Red Hat developers can be pretty idiotic but they still made something that improved the shitty POSIX system we had. I actually enjoy not having to write turing complete init shell scripts for everything and do manual dependency resolution on those scripts

>cucked by palemoon
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=16504

tl;dr palemoon blocks ublock/adnauseam

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I compiled Mumble from source, and when I try to run it from the desktop I get this message.

Works fine if I run it from the terminal though. How do I fix this shit?

>>62152988
Wow. Just... wow.

>>62167198
>falling for the palemoon meme

>>62167154
is your post even modular

>>62167198
I wonder how much sheckles palemoon devs got from Google to do this.

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Very new to linux and I just dual booted kubuntu 17.04 and windows 7 and I'm finding my kubuntu install is basically not working for wifi that works on my windows 7 install.

I can connect to my wifi but it barely loads pages beyond slowly and is always going in and out of being connected and randomly disconnecting. When I immediately start my laptop I get fast internet for all of 15 seconds before it cuts out again and forces me basically to manually disconnect and reconnect to the wifi for each time I want to load a page.

Any help?

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Do you use an office suite? If yes, which one?

>>62167198
it doesn't blacklist µblock

GNU Thread:
>>62167413
>>62167413
>>62167413

>>62167024
I've used Ubuntu, and that's how I know the PPA situation is awful.

>>62167385
>pic
but they're doing it right. does he mean crying because of being happy?