/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Hey guys, I'm new to Linux but what's this I keep hearing about systemd? Should I use it or not?

>>62167435
>Hey guys, I'm new to Linux but what's this I keep hearing about systemd? Should I use it or not?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5n069y/why_do_people_not_like_systemd/

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how to run program from desktop that runs fine from terminal

>>62167478
(((You)))

>>62167478
I'm black and I support open-source technologies.

>>62167641
enjoy your pajeet OS

Has Midori improved much? I don't really want to use Firefox or opera.

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Do you use an office suite? If yes, which one?

>>62167786
Meant to quote
>>62167641
>>62167478

>>62167786
>A true white nationalist

Follow your leader, Adolf-i'm-a-pussy-Hitler

>>62167800
>what is sarcasm

>>62167818
>sarcasm
Something that's not easily discernible over the internet.

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>>62167659
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

>>62167817
>Kill yourself nigger loving cucks
/pol/

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>>62167667
>pajeet
not any better than him tbqh

>>62167841
"When we call software “free,” we mean that it respects the users' essential freedoms: the freedom to run it, to study and change it, and to redistribute copies with or without changes. This is a matter of freedom, not price, so think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”

How fucking retarded, who in their right mind, without moralistic duty, would pay for something that's essentially free to use?

>>62167891
>As of April 2014, the foundation collects annual fees worth at least 6,245,000 USD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#Funding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat#Business_model

>>62167435
So what is the "init" system even supposed to do? Can anyone provide official documentation from the perspective of the Linux kernel?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>62168147
cd code
cd..
cd ..
cd

>>62168147

./spambot start

my favorite

>>62168147

rm -rf /usr /lib/nvidia-current/xorg/xorg

>>62167795
I usually used Microsoft office but I tried libre office and damn it looks really fine, not what you usually expect from libre software. Maybe it's time to ditch that stereotype of ugly free software

>>62168305
never understood the point of office suits

best distro?

>>62167996
Well if you ask a systemd fan the init system is apparently supposed to init your daemons, start and manage your network connections and DNS, manage logins and interactive authentication, dbus, handle logging, allow you to adjust your screen brightness, host services merely to regurgitate the content of simple text files, allow itself to be remotely controlled, be a task scheduler, enable factory resets, handle cleaning up of temporary files, act as its own terminal emulator, power management, run X specific code, and run actual OS images imported over the network

Of course that's just off the top of my head anon, there are many many more things an init system is supposed to do according to systemd! Just ask a systemd fanboy yourself for more info

>>62167841
That was a surprisingly good and informative read. Meme about Stallman all you want, he got a point.

>>62168513
>got a point.
He dosent have any points.
He is a delusional has been wanting attention

@62168536
>thinking he could get some (You)s for free

>>62168503
GuixSD

>>62168503
smgl ofc desu senpai

>>62168503
Gentoo

How much do you have to sacrifice to run a completely free system on computer?

>>62168507
I don't care what systemd thinks. I care what the Linux kernel thinks. For some reason, if I search for Linux's init system manpage, it gives me systemd's manpage. I can't find any good documentation.

>>62168622
Everything.
Your morals.
Your values.
Your wallet(linux tax on hardware)
You have to use weird hardware that comes with its own flaws and limits

Not worth it

>>62168622
I bought a wifi stick. Thats it.

>>62168631
linux doesn't think

>>62168774
Linux has grown to be more then just referencing the kernel,its an environment.

What do you call a car?

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>>62168796
Linux has grown to be more then just referencing the kernel,its an environment.

What do you call a car?

>>62168813
I call my car Kate and pretend that I'm Konqui.

What drivers for GPU (Radeon RX470) do i need to install under Ubuntu?

>>62168631
Not-so-quick rundown (sysvinit):
In the last step of the Linux boot sequence, the kernel starts the designated init program (per default /sbin/init, temporarily overridden by "init=..." cmdline). init looks into /etc/inittab for instructions. It mounts file systems, spawns ttys and runs init scripts, usually printing what it does to /dev/console, which will most of the time be replaced by /dev/tty1. After the boot sequence is complete and the current runlevel is up, init is pretty much just idle, waiting for instructions from telinit or other signals. init runs as PID 1, which means it is the direct or indirect parent of all other processes. If init exits without initiating a reboot or shutdown, it causes a kernel panic (this is one of the things critiziced in systemd, as it's a huge program, which crashes much easier than a process doing nothing but waiting for a few signals).

Additionally, have a copypasta of my local manpage of init: https://pastebin.com/VVh5m6VB (somehow every other init man page is systemd, runit or upstart. Mine is sysvinit although i use OpenRC).

>>62168782
>>62168813
>always the same dumb phoneposter

>>62168631
There's some decent interpretation of what an init system should do here too:
https://ewontfix.com/14/
Just scroll down to the first codeblock

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Hey, I decided to reclaim my freedom and move away from spyware OS as far as possible, which means keeping a dualboot for games because it's impossible to go without Windows. But I know nothing about the GNU/Linux filesystem.

Here's my current partitioning:

C + D are a 64GB SSD, I plan to evenly split it in 2x30GB, one for Windows and the other for Linux.
E, F + G are 1TB WD Black. I plan to keep E for Windows, and mount G to /home/ because that's where all my personal shit is. F is unsorted/temp stuff.
X is 4TB WD Red full of sorted stuff (media, install files, backups, etc.)

How would you rearrange the partitions and why? How should I mount them?
Do I need a swap partition with 8GB RAM? If yes, should I put it on the HDD over the SSD (I've read swap causes heavy wear on SSD)?

I intend to turn everything that isn't Windows and Games into ext4 so Windows can't phone my stuff to Microsoft. Is there a way to do it without formatting? As you see my 4TB is practically full, I've got no external or second machine where I could temporarily store this stuff.

>>62169825
I suggest you to install Linux first and try it for some time. Some people just CANT adapt, or have some annoying problems.

How do i check what GPU drivers are currently installed for my system? Im on Ubuntu.

>>62169871
I've been running Linux in a VM for some days now to test it out and prepare me for the switch.

I just have no idea how I should set my partitions. I can set up everything else later, but that's the one thing you have to do beforehand.

>>62169825
D = /
G = /home
F and X sound like they can just be thrown in /mnt as just random assorted files. Or if you want it to feel closer to $HOME you can always mount it somewhere inside /home

You don't need a swap. The only thing you would really need to format if you did it this way is D for the root partition. But, if you can afford to format the other partitions too it's recommended so you don't have to worry about fragmentation anymore.

Has anyone here have any experience with trackballs on linux?

Is it possible to use wpa_supplicant to connect to wifi network without dhcpcd?

>>62169933
Check: lshw -c video
Search for "driver="
For more infos run: modinfo <the driver>

>>62169871
GNU/Linux

>>62170157
no

>>62168288
delete system32, now in linux flavor

>>62168147
Cool thing I did in the terminal recently:

Find a YouTube playlist of an album. Download audio versions of the album. Isolate the audio if the format was webm but the audio stream was opus/vorbis.

That was something like

$ youtube-dl "url to playlist, in quotes"
 -f 'bestaudio[acodec=opus]/bestaudio[acodec=vorbis]' -o '%(playlist_index)s - %(title)s.%(ext)s

to download them all. These were webms, usually.

Then isolate with ffmpeg:

$ for i in *.webm; do ffmpeg -i "$i" -vn -acodec copy "${i%.webm}".ogg;
 done

And then, since this might mix some opus and vorbis files, I'd just rename as needed, knowing which are which by using

$ file *

If they were vorbis, leave them be; if they were opus, rename to .opus.

There's probably a better way to do many of these things, but it was a fun thing to learn on my own.

>>62170439
>>62168288
Doesn't work on GNU.

rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/'
rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe

>>62169825
HyperV that shit for a while before you commit to partitioning.

>>62170452
thanks senpai

>>62170438
Mmmmh...

>>62169954
You could go >fullretard like me/others and just use a single root partition.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning#Single_root_partition
https://serverfault.com/questions/629439/how-bad-is-it-really-to-install-linux-on-one-big-partition
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/217hn1/will_a_single_root_partition_work_for_me/

>>62168147
mpsyt
mpsyt
mpsyt

Underrated utility.

>>62170490
Wut?

>>62170569
honestly, this has nothing to do with full retard. As the average user you don't really need more

how you deal with the lack of industry standard software on linux?

How to completely remove a program in Ubuntu? What is the most correct way?

>>62170918
dont start this

>>62170918
don't, and dual boot
alternatively, use free alternatives

>>62170949
apt remove --purge program_name && apt-get autoremove

>>62170820
Virtualize it, familiarize yourself, nuking a VM is trivial if you don't like your particular distro

>>62170977
>remove --purge
Do you even apt. There's a direct purge option.

>>62170949

just apt autoremove --purge senpai

>>62171023
it works fine for me...?

/g/ even argues on how to uninstall a program

>>62170954
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Alternative

>>62171052
>>62171023
oops misread, sorry

>>62171060
is this the price of freedom?

>>62171060
What are you trying to say faggot? Never been in a technical discussion before?

>>62170949
sudo apt-get purge <program> && sudo apt-get autoremove

>>62170977
>>62171023
>>62171100
Whats the difference with remove --purge and just purge? T-thanks btw.

>>62170977
>apt remove --purge program_name && apt-get autoremove
>not apt purge --remove program_name && apt-get autoremove

>>62171065
is this fucking serious?

>>62171121
do you underestimate the power of gnu-grade autism?

>>62171114
There's no difference.

>>62171121
unfortunately yes. this type of pendantic behavior is why no one takes gnu seriously

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>>62171118
apt-get remove -autoremove --purge master race

apt-get --repurge apt-purge

So...
>sudo apt-get purge "package name"
then
>sudo apt-get autoremove
Do i need to specify "package name" for autoremove? Also how to find out correct package name? I want to remove VLC.

>>62171177
only working commands allowed

>>62171207
you could grep dpkg -l for the package you want to remove, like: dpkg -l | grep vlc
autoremove cleans dependancies of package you don't have anymore, so you dont need to specify anything just let it run
before you push [y] for autoremove, check what it will remove to make sure you don't need any of those packages

Can i remove the Phonon garbage safely?

>>62171207
apt-get autoremove --purge <package>
or
apt-get purge --autoremove <package>
is the shortest form.

You can run apt-get autoremove without options, it does the same as when you specify a package; it searches for orphaned packages and removes them, when a package is specified, it first removes that package and then searches for orphaned packages. --purge also removes configurations (not the configs in your home!).

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What a good tui torrent client?

>>62171758
if you don't mind not being able to select individual filea in a torrent then uget will work for ya, it's a multipurpose download manager and it also handles torrents if you tell it to

Why GNU/Linux fans jerk off to rtorrent? Im coming from Win and i want to try the most popular GNU/Linux software which is unavailable on Win. I dont get the appeal of rtorrent. Please explain whats so good about it!

>>62170488
it's '/usr' not '/', retard

How do you go about finding out the dependencies you need for your packages on Slackware?

How to disable blk-mq in linux-ck?

What the heck is "Loop Device?" Im on fresh Ubuntu and i have it for some reason.

>>62171885
Lots of GNU/Linux users just use transmission-gtk. Never used rtorrent

>>62172064
What do you like about transmission? I use qbt on windows and thought of giving transmission a try. Does it have RSS reader?

>>62171885
it's light footprint and ability to be remote controlled makes it ideal for home servers/seedboxes, that being said, I don't care for it.

>>62171929
don't use vanilla slack, use one of the derivatives that makes use of gslapt and sourcery. that or build those two yourself on vanilla slack if you're up for that.

>>62172098
I have no idea, I'm not a power user. I just download muh animes and that's it. I was only saying that I do see a lot of linux users using it

>>62172098
It has the best interface.

>Install wicd
>Type wicd-curses and gives me an error about dbus and a few other things so it doesn't work
This is what I get for using a python program

>>62172150
>Use one of the derivatives
Any you'd personally suggest?

>>62172277
slackel or vector.

Wait transmission doesnt have RSS tool?

Is there a sane way to manage power options on arch? Preferably with a GUI.

>>62172348
power options are generally in with your d.e. settings

>>62172373
Not using a DE.

>>62172384
install a real DE, wmfag

If you download lots of anime and keep it long after you have watched it you are fag

>>62172480
And when you rewatch your favorites?

>>62168503
Ubuntu or GuixSD

>>62172480
What about downloading lots of anime, keeping it, and not watching it?

>>62172597

Download it again you damn fag.
>>62172624

That's okay.

anyone have a guide for making KDE look like OSX?

>>62172856
>Panel to top, enable global menu
>Install Latte Dock
>Install Breezemite Window Decorations
>Install icon theme

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I'm kind of bored of linux already.
Used Manjaro then Arch for like eight months. Then tried to install Debian but somehow fucked up. Currently using Ubuntu but it just feels weird.
Thinking about going back to Arch but I don't really feel like dealing with Pacman again. I don't want it to break up in the middle of the semester.
What do I do.

>>62172955
>dealing with Pacman again
Pacman is the best package manager though.

Your incompetency is the only limiting factor when using arch

>>62172989
>package manager
>asks the user to manage stuff

>>62173017
>pacman -S <program>
Problem?

>>62169192
So init mounts file systems, spawns virtual terminals... Is this historic behavior specific to sysv or is this what Linux says init has to do? Because the only hard requirement from Linux implied by your post is "it cannot exit" since you said the kernel will panic if it does.

What stops me from passing init=/usr/bin/bash to the kernel command line? If not exiting is the only requirement, sounds like bash is just as good as systemd as far as the kernel is concerned.

>>62173144
>What stops me from passing init=/usr/bin/bash to the kernel command line?
Nothing.

>>62172955
Get a mac

>>62172944
why latte dock over plank?

>>62173144
>What stops me from passing init=/usr/bin/bash to the kernel command line?
systemd will shit its self and panic

>>62173197
It's way fucking better and it's made with Qt. It's basically a better version of the plasma panel (you can use it instead of plasma panel, it's not just a dock). It also allows you integrate plasma widgets and uses the plasma theme.

>>62173221
ok thanks

>>62170452
I think you can skip using ffmpeg, and directly download only the audio using the -x flag pass to youtube-dl

>>62173177
And it works?

>>62173214
How can it shit itself if it's not running?

>>62173363
>And it works?
Yes. But you'll need good Linux skills to get a full working desktop from there.

By the way do not forget that process 1 must do wait to wait for orphans children, so from bash, spawn another bash (openvt -s bash) and exec a minimal init that loop to wait (exec simpleloopinit)

>>62172955
How did you fuck a Debian install? it almost literally takes you by the hand and walks you through the whole process.

>>62173658
I don't know.
It kept saying that wireless drivers were missing and just aborted the whole instalation.
I guess this is because I used a small 700mb~ image instead of the full 1.4gb or so one. But back in that moment I just stopped trying and installed ubuntu instead.

>>62173544
Yeah I guess I'd have to execute all the daemons, mount all file systems and basically so everything systemd does from the command line.

So Linux also requires that pid 1 waits on children? OK. I just don't know why they haven't just written this anywhere, to the point we have to work from the ground up to figure out what's essential and what'a not. Also, Linux has process control system call options that allow you to set which process will reap its children, which probably complicates that notion a little.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/149319/new-parent-process-when-the-parent-process-dies/177361#177361

prctl(PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER, pid, reaper)

That makes PID 1 init about as special as a default "when all else fails" fallback when it comes to "reaping children". I find it ironic that it was the systemd developers who made it posssible to factor this functionality out of pid 1.

>>62173691
I guess ubuntu is fine and all, I just don't like canonical. I'm running Debian testing myself, I don't generally recommend my own distro to newbies, but you seem to me like a fine user, having installed arch before and all, Debian is entry level compared to that.
On a better note you also seem like you're still distro hopping for the moment, come back to Debian when you want to settle, it just becomes invisible and get out of the way between you and your work(or whatever you're using your computer for).

>>62173859
Yeah you could say I still am distro hopping.
Went from Manjaro to Arch using Architect to Manjaro to Arch using a guide to Architect again to Manjaro to Ubuntu.
I do understand the basics of Arch but there's still some stuff about pacman and its behavior I don't completely understand so I am not an advanced user at all.
I just need a pretty, stable and fast distro for programming courses on college, but like I said, I just feel something weird on Ubuntu...

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>tfw you remember if it weren't for gaems you wouldn't give a shit how popular GNU/Linux was and could be a super elitist just jerking off to your own unique setup while telling all new users to suck your balls
I-It's just not fair

>>62173930
Ok, so when the novelty of linux wears off, and you want to just have a solid OS for every day use, then Debian testing should take care of all your needs, and if you don't do anything that requires commercial only software, I am thinking cad and video editing packages, you can hit the repos and enjoy the largest (to my knowledge) software database in one place in the world, bonus points if you're doing a course computer related, those actually require you to use the *nix tool chains, then you'd be in luck.

>>62173958
Reminder: GNU and FSF exists because Richard "M" Stallman got a hissyfit at a printer being propriatary, yet printers are still propriatary. Richard Stallman has contributed literally nothing to the world.

>>62174055
and yet it's still more than you've ever contributed lol

>>62174076
>and yet it's still more than you've ever contributed lol
and yet it's still more than you've ever contributed lol

>>62174022
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>and if you don't do anything that requires commercial only software
I still need windows, I do a lot of excel for my job. And I play video games every now and then.
And yeah, I'm on computer engineering so I guess I'll always need a linux distro. Next year I'll be taking something called "real time programming" I think.

>>62169954
Single root partition.

>>62174055
Many of them are libre, retard

>left /g/ around a year ago
Solus was the shilled meme distro back then. Has it delivered?

Hey, I'm playing around with control functions. For some reason, "\x1b[" works as a control sequence indicator but "\x9b" does not even though all of the standards say that's what it is for. I've tried it in xterm and st. What gives?

>>62174646
linux is still garbage across the board

t. guy who also left /g/ for about a year and went back to using windows 10

>>62174943
go away cuck

I'm considering running Linux from an external USB 3/type C enclosure and just taking it with me to boot from

Convince me why this is a bad idea

Would it be a good idea to install i3wm in xubuntu?

>>62171962
That's the computer you're on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost

So what are the essential differences between curl and wget? Also I love downloading things, so how to become a curl/wget master?
>inb4 read the man
yea but how to become a curl/wget master?

>>62174943
Shit answer.
t. windowsbabby
Anyway, how's the support for non free drivers going? Any news? I'm desperate to at least dual boot, but my main machine is full of Realtek components (WiFi, Bluetooth etc.)

>>62175125
yes
>>62175138
they do the same thing

>>62172348
Most panels have a power plugin associated with them.

>>62175091
why not just bring your own machine?

>>62175148
So is curl just basically the more robust of the two, like xcopy v. robocopy on windows?

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>>62167413
Have a spare laptop that is fairly powerful but I don't want to do gayming on it. What OS would you reccomend for mainly browsing and watching youtube. I was thinking maybe clover os.

>>62175177
They do the same thing in different ways, which makes some thing easier with curl some easier with wget. Learn both.

>>62175181
hook up some extra drives and make it a ghetto nas

>>62171962
jesus christ..

>>62175199
Well, ok. I'm already pretty well versed with wget, but have almost never used curl. Any good resources, like pocketbooks for either or both? I like books with examples.

>>62175199
aria2/uget masterrace coming through, step aside peasants

>>62173017
I literally don't know what you're implying here. Pacman is as simple as 1) type command, 2) wait. If you want more insight into how it actually works, do a manual package build off of the AUR as per their wiki's instructions. I am actually having trouble imagining how you can have problems outside of that.

>>62175230

curl -LO example.com/something.tar.gz
wget example.com/something.tar.gz
curl -sSL git.io/unix
wget -qO- wttr.in
wget -nc -nd -nv -e robots=off -r -Ajpg,JPG -ERhtml rms.sexy/img

>>62175091
Why does everyone want me to convince them to not do fun things? You might have to read a wiki page and understand how lilo works? Flash media is expensive? Fuck, I dunno man.

>>62175125
Xfce with i3 is what I like to use. It'll take messing with a config file or two to get your DE to work properly, but it's worth it if you want to put in the time.

>>62175181
Just a few picks from me if you don't want to install Mint or Ubuntu:
>deepin (muh aesthetics)
>PCLinuxOS (muh beginners' OS)
>Korora (muh desktop friendliness)
>Debian unstable (muh stability)
>Sabayon (muh Gentoo)

>>62175176
this
seriously where are you using someone elses computer that they trust anyone enough to have usb boot enabled? certainly not work or any public computer, so that leaves what, friends? why do you nee/want to run a usb linux at your friends house?

>>62175321
GNU/Linux*

>>62175355
linux*

>>62175355
oldlinux works just fine thanks

Why is firefox not free software? Im confuse.

how do you guys deal with the lack of drivers and microcode support on linux? don't you care about your hardware?

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Does someone know if the font renderer on GNU/Linux doesn't handle line height properly?

I keep trying out new fonts and everything has such horrendously massive line spacing. I feel like I'm an old person trying to use my fucking Jitterbug or something, it's ridiculous

Take NotoSansCJK fonts for example. Does it render with such a huge spacing between lines on Windows too? I almost find it hard to believe that it's actually supposed to be like this.

I looked up some stuff about fonts and tried opening it up in fontforge and it has an "ascent" of 800 which seems to be just above the top of most characters, while the full "em size" is 1000
According to what I've read it's supposed to use the ascent for spacing which is dynamically adjusted if any characters are larger, while the 1000 is supposed to be the maximum.
But no matter where I use these fonts in GNU/Linux it always looks like it's automatically using the maximum spacing. It's especially ugly when using as the font for window titles because it makes the title bars so unnecessarily huge, it's like half empty space.

It's a bug right?

>>62175402
It's free software but doesn't follow the free distribution guidelines (botnet as in spyware, downloads binary blobs, connects to google servers just like chrome, etc). That said, all the bad things can be turned off by editing about:config

>>62175181

Wow I never thought I'd see that pepe I made again

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>>62175490
See look at this shit. Same font size.
Makes me want to throw up.

Can I at least fix it in fontforge somehow?

>>62175158
Logically there is no reason why power management needs to be tied to a panel. You'd think somebody would have made a standalone client by now.

>>62175290
It's called reverse psychology

>>62171015
This, except use VMWare Player. Hyper-V is a sack of AIDS.

>>62175606
I completely agree with you. I'm not saying that's the only option, just the one that I went with since I use a panel anyway. I can't find a standalone one, but you can use udev or systemd hooks to display something in conky periodically if you don't want one.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop

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fresh OC

>>62175742
Yeah, I get you

>>62175783
Debian is trash and whoever made it should kill themselves.

>>62175995
DELET THIS

This isn't strictly Linux-related but how difficult is it to put coreboot on a laptop?

>>62176111
is it supported by your hardware?

Whats the best lightwieght linux distro for a laptop that focuses on long battery life?
im on ubuntu mint but dont have best battery life.

I cant really seem to get gentoo to install. I get stuck on the partition harddrive set because it is a uefi platform

>>62176244
Xubuntu, arch

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I love Linux.

>>62176244
You can do a Debian net install for a minimal install and then get a lightweight desktop environment. To be honest, I've found GNOME3 is better on battery life than just a pure window manager.

>>62176244
Gentoo is the only way desu.
no bloated kernel and you can choose to only use base packages.

>>62176244
Just install vanilla Linux, don't fall for these second hand distributions.

Hello /fglt/

for quite some time I've been thinking of getting a thinkpad with gnu/libreboot just to see it, feel it and understand /g/
but while i was searching for thinkpads i came across ministery of freedom, who sold libreboot with gnu thinkpad t400
https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/

is it worth paying €518.00 for 8GB ram +1TB hard drive, or is it cheaper to buy all through ebay and install myself?

thanks

>>62176415

Try some of these:
https://minifree.org/
https://tehnoetic.com/
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
http://www.libiquity.com/
https://vikings.net/

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I WANT to use Xubuntu on my desktop. Yet it seems 17 wants to be a fucking asshole. Once it boots it won't show on screen. From what I can find it's because I use an Nvidia video card. Has anyone else experience this problem? Is there any way for me to get it on my desktop? Otherwise I'll go to Bunsen Labs.

And now I don't want to use a VM.

>>62176438
bunsenlabs is nice

>>62176435
sweet!! thank you!

>>62176455
It was, and while it gave me issues using two monitors I was able to finally get around it. Had to install a nvidia driver I believe but I did get it working.

Still I'd like something more simple for the time being, and I know Xubuntu well enough. Using it now on my laptop.

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>tfw you sit in a split window, in vim, in tmux, in i3 and you try to remember the right hotkey
help

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WHAT IS THE BEST DISTRO
TELL ME ALREADY

>>62176580
Debian, obviously.

>>62176580
Debian GNU/Linux

>>62176580
Debian Stable GNU/Linux

>>62176620
>stable
why not sid senpai

>>62176622
Thank you for bugtesting for my lovely comfy Stable.
Besides, most of the problems Sid would generate for someone who doesn't know what distro is the best for them aren't necessarily going to be problems that could be solved through google. Stable is less likely to have weirdo bugs.

>>62176663
Works on my machine.

>>62175493
>>62175493
Can I get a list of what I should disable?

>>62176676
Only got this older, incomplete list. https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5

>>62176673
No doubt.

just install arch
what are some cool things to do now?

>>62167413
What a disgusting creature. I think penguins are better.

>>62176751
behead those who insult GNU.

Gentoo, SMGL, or Void Linux for my ThinkPad? Was going to go CloverOS for memes but no tlp.

>>62168507

Why do you bother posting objectively wrong facts on a forum with a software technology topic? Are you that retarded that you can't comprehend that others will call you out on your retardation?

Everything you just said is wrong and you must be the most stupid person in this thread right now. Since there are a lot of idiots in here, that's an accomplishment. You are the most retarded retard, basically.

In the meantime to mend your terminal retardation a bit, I suggest reading up the first paragraph of systemd's documentation.

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>>62168147
>F U N
$ sl

>>62172955
Gross picture.

>>62171152

>staying true to your principles and avoiding any potential hypocrisy which would nullify your credibility is bad

I suggest you read this >>62178453 too. Alternatively, consider castration, to spare the world retarded off-spawn.

help! when I startx i3 is the wrong resolution! I tried setting xrandr mode to 1080 but it didn't work!

Debian is just superior to Fedora at this point.
Try installing i3 on a minimal Debian install and then try it on a minimal Fedora install.
With Debian i3 just werks, not with Fedora. It's like they've actually designed Debian. Fedora hasn't been designed so much as shit thrown at a wall to see what sticks.

>>62178677
post output of;

grep drm <(lsmod)

and
xrandr

>>62178677
use a display manager nigger

I dont get why anyone would install fedora or centos desu. If one wants an easy distro, *buntu is the way to go. If one wants the distro being robust and stable, go with debian. If one wants security, alpine. If one wants to tinker, theres a lot of cool shit out there like arch, gentoo, nixos, kali, sourcemage etc

Fedora has no place anywhere at all. Serious question, i need some fedorafags to apply and redpill me.

>>62178777
Try arch. It also 'just werks'.

>>62178807
Talk about a useless and ugly use of process substitution, phew.

>>62178494
>avoiding any potential hypocrisy which would nullify your credibility
Hating hypocrisy is a very american attitude.

Using Antergos Rn and it is great!
but how do i connect to the windows shares from my battlestation?
i wanted to try and stream some films while i'm on the couch but can't seem to get i right.
Using KDE if that helps

>>62178807
do I run those commands in tty or the x session?

>>62179029
in X

>>62179029
in a terminal under X

>>62179039
>>62179045

Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 640 x 480, maximum 16384 x 16384
eDP-1-1 connected 640x480+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm
   640x480       59.94* 
   320x240       60.05  
DP-1-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

nvidia_drm             45056  5
nvidia_modeset        835584  3 nvidia_drm
drm_kms_helper        131072  2 i915,nvidia_drm
drm                   299008  10 i915,nvidia_drm,drm_kms_helper
syscopyarea            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt              16384  1 drm_kms_helper
fb_sys_fops            16384  1 drm_kms_helper

>>62179097
are you using nouveau, or the proprietary nvidia driver?

>>62179097
>Only goes up to 640x480
Yeah, something is definitely fucked up.
Please don't tell me you're using the cuck (nvidia proprietary) driver.

>>62179134
>>62179135
Proprietary. Did I screw up?

>>62179146
Yes.

>>62179154
What should I do? This resolution is hard to work in

>>62179175
Uninstall it and just use nouveau.

>>62178987

How do you manage to sound more retarded with every successive post? You should document your retardation, so future generations can learn from it and how to avoid it.

Avoiding hypocrisy is objectively noble and desirable. If you cannot comprehend that, consider never posting again. At least on here, to spare everyone your retardation.

>>62179320
>objectively noble and desirable
Oh my god in heaven. Thats sure sounds swell!

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Is there a way to make the thumbnails bigger for this window? (When picking a file to upload on firefox.) I'm using mint with cinnamon.

>>62179389

Keywords to look up:
linux, file dialog, gtk2, gtk3, icon view, thumbnail

>>62179435
I've been searching and apparently there's no option?

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Omemo compatible Linux xmpp chat app?

>>62179500

Exactly.

>>62178461
Nah!
https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/sl-the-other-sl/

>>62179538
Profanity (TUI) or Gajim (GUI) via plugins.

Can I do the following in the Xserver Nvidia software: Set a profile that automatically loads when logging in that sets Gamma for my display to 1.2
How would I do it? Where do I have to enter what? Is there an online ressource with this sort of information?

>>62180122
>nowhere to set up irc client
how have you posted here?

>>62179869
You can use normal Xorg softwares like xrandr for that these days. No nvidia specific shit needed these days.

What might be causing piss poor performance of mpv on GNU/Linux? I have AMD GPU and run amdgpu+mesa.

>>62175317

Right, thanks! I'll try to install it later today, that and polybar and rofi.
I've also heard good stuff on awesome, could anyone tell in which way is it better than i3?

>>62175125
>>62180432

What do you think i3 does for you better than Xfwm4?
What's the point of installing Xfce and then replacing all of its components with something else?
Why can't you look up the website of Awesome and compare its features to those of i3 and your needs?

You sound like one of those people that like to hear themselves talk, but the internet version.

>>62180495
Wow, and here I thought this was /fglt/?
To answer your questions, I saw and read about i3, so I'm eager to try it. As for Awesome, I wanted to hear others experience with it.

>>62180752

So you're going to read the first person's subjective opinion about it on here and then base your decision on that? You will base your opinion on that instead of installing the software yourself and trying it? You will not spend 2 minutes visiting its website and seeing its core points laid out by the creator?

What's a nice looking and easy to use terminal? I'm using urxvt right now but I fucking hate it and I urgently need something that just works

>>62180799
Who says I didn't already check the relevant websites and read online? What's the point of these threads if you can't ask for opinions? Are you serious with these questions or are you just slow?

>>62180869
lxterminal

>>62180348
still doesn't tell me how

Hi /fglt/, i have a Thinkpad T60p with ATI graphics and I want to Libreboot this laptop. I know that Libreboot doesn't support ATI, so I'd like to know if the screen is going to work with a motherboard that has Intel integrated graphics? currently i have an 15.4" widescreen lcd

>>62176546
Since you're talking about tmux, I've been wondering, is it normal to initialize tmux every time you open up a terminal emulator? Because that's what I do. My terminal opens up a tmux session by default.

I can't think of why not that would be wrong, but it kind of feels like I'm doing something silly.

What are some MUST HAVE GNU/Linux programs?

>>62181134
linux

>>62181134
GNU.

>>62181134
systemd

>>62181134
grep

>>62181134
Steam.

I am so used to far/total commander, what should I use on linux? mc or should I just git really gud at bash?

>>62181134
rm

>>62178807

  ~  grep drm <(lsmod )
drm_kms_helper        151552  1 i915
drm                   348160  5 i915,drm_kms_helper

installed ubuntu gnome on my t450, have two questions

1. The trackpad and trackpoint aren't as smooth as in win8, and ¨tapping¨ the trackpad doesn't register as a mouse click. Does this have to do with drivers?

2. The title bar above firefox app is incredibly huge. It's ridiculous. How do I hide it, or merge the "x" inside the app, because that's the only use for the whole title bar.

>>62181291
>>62178807
why not just run

lsmod | grep drm

?

There's a LUG meetup in my uni next monday, including a Linux install workshop
Should I bring my laptop and ask to have Source Mage installed?

>>62181618
Interject and tell them why it's GLUG.

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>>62181645
10/10

>>62181645
They already have
I just refuse out of principle to comply to the autistic demands of an obese hobo that hasn't done anything useful since he wrote gcc (deprecated)

whats a good terminal torrent client?

What happens when you install programs booted from liveusb Ubuntu, for example? Will they be stored in the RAM and cleared after restart?

>>62181665
I wanna see more

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Where can I learn to install arch linux from scratch, while learning everything I do and not just following some commands. I don't have much experience though.

God, why is Debian so comfy and so annoying at once? Every dumb thing needs to get set up manually. I just needed to install like 4 packages only to get my phone to mount. Is that really such a bloat, to ship with phone mount support?

Hello, I'm pretty new at Linux, and I'm running it live from a USB. I even added persistence to it.
I study software engineering 3. semester and I'm supposed to use a Raspberry Pi Zero W.
I've mounted the image we got from the university, however i cant seem to find usb0 when I plug it in, and my useless lector told me to suspend VMware, let the raspberry pi boot in Windows (Which is obviously not a possibility) and then restart the virtual machine.
Anyone have any idea what the shit is happening?

>>62181798
Mounted what image? Where? Specify, boy.

>>62181798
Are you using a physical raspi?

>>62181833
We were given an image by the University, called 1.img (I know very helpful).
And I mounted it to the SD as the instructions said.
I even tried ifup USB0. it just cant find any connections.
It could easily find my SD card tho' when I plugged that in, that's what boggles my mind.

>>62181777
read the arch wiki
it explains all the commands

>>62181798
Call your teacher and call him a dumb-fucking nigger for suggesting such a retarded thing.

>>62181846
Yes, a physical Rpi Zero W

>>62181858
I still have no idea what you're trying to do. Doesn't the image go to the SD card to boot up the RPI?

>>62181870
Thanks, but I dont want to flunk the course my dude.
But I basically did that. :)))))
>>62181879
And yeah thats what its supposed to do.

>>62181873
Just use noobs
What the fuck are you using a VM for?
Your entire fucking existence sounds retarded

>>62181896
Like I fucking said in the first post.
IM NOT USING A FUCKING VIRTUAL MACHINE.
Jesus Christ you're dumber than my lector.

>>62181887
So you're unpacking an image to the microsd thats supposed to act as an "os" to the Pi or what? Does it have proper boot? Is it properly formatted? Does the SD card have boot flag? You're being super vague

>>62181917
wew lad friendly thread

>>62181917
We don't talk pajeet you faggot
Go poo in the loo

>>62181920
I know, but so was my lector. I honestly doubt he knows what the image does.

But yes, I did format it, and then wrote the image onto the microSD, which then entered the Raspberry Pi, which should then allow it to boot. However he wants us to boot it in windows, whereas I'm not using Windows at all when I use Linux.
>>62181922
I know I'm sorry, but he called my existence retarded based on his lack of reading abilities.

>>62169158
The free drivers. The proprietary drivers aren't relevant anymore

>>62181945
there's a windows 10 IOT image that supports rpi, perhaps he means to boot the rpi using this?

>>62181961
Might be that, but then what should I do?
I'm not even using Win10 as main OS on my laptop.

>>62181975
download the image, dd it onto the sd card and try to boot using it

>>62181990
I did download the image.
I did dd it to the sd card.
It doesnt boot.

>>62181975
Unpack the IMG and post contents. Maybe it doesn't even have boot files and you're doing it all wrong

>>62182002
Did you set the boot flag?

>>62182002
poo in it
or use noobs

>>62182018
It does have boot files, it booted on my GF's windows PC

>>62182025
How do I set the boot flag?

>>62182037
fdisk
cfdisk

>>62182044
Alright, so I've used fdisk -l before.
Is it another option I need to use to set boot flag?

>>62182059
use cfdisk then

>>62182065
Just straight-up cfdisk? No extra -x -y or something?

i just installed linux what now

>>62182059
the boot flag will already be set by the image...it's been made to just be written to the disc and ran.
are you 100% sure you wrote the image properly? one mistake i used to make was doing dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdb1, which didn't write properly. what command did you use to write the disc?

>>62182078
no

Zero W is a monumental piece of shit desu just drop out senpai

>>62182079
Open the terminal :)
>>62182084
I did
dd if=1.img of=/dev/mkxc0

Honestly cant remember the part after /dev/ but it was something like that.

>>62182110
>mkxc0

Wat

>>62182109
I wanted the Rpi 3. But our lector was like "that might bring problems *farty fart sounds*"

>>62182110
that's not too informative dude lol
what im trying to say is: make you sure write the image to the disc, not a partition. such as:
dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb1 - this is _not_ right,
dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb - this is right
i.e sdb not sdb1
>>62182125
sd cards use different IDs compared to hard disks

>>62182125
The name of the SD was something like that.
Its not an exact representation desu.
Just something like it, it started with m, that much I know

>>62182139
>sd cards use different IDs compared to hard disks
Uh, no they dont, i deal with sd cards all day and they are all /dev/sdX identifiers

What fucked up system are you using, holy shit

>>62182139
Oh shit. Thanks man I wrote it to partition 0 I think.
That might be where the problems at. Its just weird that it worked booted on windows.

>>62182155
when i put my SD card in i get /dev/mmcblk0
:)

>>62182158
Seriously just use noobs

>>62182155
What fucked up system are you using?
Anon2 here, mine also uses different labels for SD cards?
I think it depends on the distro desu.

>>62182181
sdX for me as well.
I use Arch btw

>>62182179
I will give his possibility one last try, then I'll try noobs.

>>62169954
I have one for root with about 120 GiB.
One for /home with 80 GiB
And a last one for raw data, like music videos etc, mounted to /home/data

The data partition is a leftover from when I dual booted windows. It could be accessed by Linux and Windows and therefore is a NTFS partition.

Having different partitions for home and your data is also useful for backups. You could use your home partition for different distros on the same computer and just change the root partition.

NEW >>62182251

>>62181393
cause copy/paste, although process substitution comes in handy in a lot of situations, so it is good to know.

>>62178839
I can see CentOS if you're practicing for the red hat exam or something. For actual daily use? Uhh...

>>62180495
Well I just use the i3wm for tiling windows. Everything else is xfce still.

>>62182079
Install the rest of the operating system.

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Opinions/thoughts on solus?

>>62182840
just use ubuntu

>>62182850
>amazuntu
botnet

>>62182863
you're a retard.

>>62182905
triggered noobuntu babby spotted

>>62182916
dont tell me you use arch

>>62181796
Debian's default install has no non-free drivers

>>62182928
Thats actually part of what makes Debian so great.

>>62181959
Theyre built into the kernel, right? Along with mesa. Do i even need to install anything at all?

i get a secure boot error trying to install arch linux on my thinkpad. should I disable it? is that risky?

>>62183254
read on what secure boot is...
if you cant look shit up you'll be useless on arch