Why is Firefox doing this?

>>62149344
>Why is Firefox doing this?
Because they are fascist SJW femnazis paid for by that evil globalist tribalist Soros

what's the next go to browser?

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>tfw all your extensions already got a webext version and youjust laugh when other niggers whine about their extensions not getting ported

>>62149400
Fuck off shill

>>62149400
Whats the picture from?

Because all the good devs left so what remains just takes other people's work and duct tapes it in

Also ublock origin is currently broken because of a webextensions bug in FF55 (that won't be fixed until FF56) and preventing webrtc from leaking is 100% broken with web extensions

Fun times

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>>62149344
Because WebExtensions are safer, faster and more stable, because they can be run out-of-process and sandboxed.

Also, WebExtensions is crossplatform, which means it's very easy to create extensions for Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Opera Brave and Vivaldi with minimal frustration.

https://www.davrous.com/2016/12/07/creating-an-extension-for-all-browsers-edge-chrome-firefox-opera-brave/

Downloaded Version 1.13.11rc0 and its blocking ads again. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/versions/beta

>>62149500
>>62149344
why are you using ff 57 by the way?

>>62149595
I'm using Cyberfox.

>>62149612
my bad I guess. still people are using nightly just to complain about broken stuff and legacy addons not working. dunno why

>>62149595
OP's pic for tabmixplus is the notice that pops up when you update it regardless of the browser version.

>>62149344
Extensions are tools of the patriarchy.

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>>62149344
>tfw all extensions you use are being ported or have already been replaced by new ones

>>62149595
BTW haHAA

>>62149485
So edge will get more extensions when 57 comes out?

>>62149358
>can't tell if this is ironic

I hate neo-/g/ and want /pol/ to leave.

>>62149720
>neo-/g/
you mean nu-/g/

>>62149344
Removing backwards compatibility allows you to do whatever you want moving forward. It's a good thing, usually.

>>62149485
tl;dr Firefox becomes a Chrome clone as well
I should've used Chromium right away.

>>62149754
Firefox is going to become Chrome but cooler/

>>62149754
Firefox will still be the best browser. Saying you might as well use the worse thing because of similarities makes no sense. It's less effort to stay with what you have (firefox) than switch. If you think they're similar, there's even less reason to stop using it.

How much support for webextensions does ESR 52 have?

>>62149790
basically none AFAIK

>>62149771
Firefox's advantage over Chrome, and it's only advantage outside of freefaggotry, has always been extensibility. WebExtensions prevent addons from altering the UI, accessing and writing files, and other useful and important features used by addons like download managers and Classic Theme Restorer.

Give one (1) reason to use Firefox over Chrome without the advantage of extensibility. Hard mode: no whining about source code.

>>62149797
well it doesn't have google's tracking jewry baked in. But there's no reason to use FF over other niche browsers

>>62149720
>>62149742
I think you mean /v/

>>62149797
Ricing isn't an "important feature"

>>62149751

windows phone developer detected

>>62149818
Being able to disable the FF UI department trying to justify their jobs is though

I'm sure Cyberfox will have an option to keep the original extension system just likw how they have theclassic firefox shell.

>>62149344
Just use the ESR version.
It's a stopgap solution for some time at least.

>>62149818
Then why aren't you using a generic Chrom* clone? Your needs are very clearly satisfied by one.

>>62149720
It's a parody of what our board has become.

>>62149358
>>62149720
Pol is too stupid to ironic.
>>62149742
>>62149813
It is actual neo/Reddit/stormfag refugee/pol/ becoming newfag /neo/nu//pseudo/g/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/htmlview
And if yours isn't on here it doesn't matter.

>>62150016
If you want to fit in better, you're supposed to put / before and after board name like /pol/ and never capitalize. No need to thank me, just helping a newbie begin his 2 years of lurking.

>>62149797
Give me a reason to use Chrome instead.
>No about:config
>Can't even move buttons around the UI, at least Firefox keeps this possibility
>Less powerful WebExt implementation, an add-on such as TreeStyleTabs can still be possible on Firefox, but not on Chrome
>Google botnet
>Ugly as sin trapezoid tabs that become basically unusable when there are many open, Firefox is returning to square tabs
>The speed advantage is basically negated by the new Servo components

>>62149669
What's the replacement for this one?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ui-enhancer/

>>62149797
>no whining about source code
You're a massive faggot, enjoy your botnet.

>>62150050
Limited, partial, mostly, a few of full ones...

and lots of them missing that "don't matter"

>>62149797
>WebExtensions prevent addons from altering the UI

Use fucking userChrome.css don't be a nigger that can't even into stylesheets.

>>62150499
Do you know how to add a button using userchrome?

>>62149417
"Después de Lucía"

>>62149358
/thread

>>62149368
Brave

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>>62149358
so many redddit memes in one post

>>62149344

99% of Firefox add-ons are abandoware, most really dont work in Firefox 56. This is why is good.

>>62149485
But there's no point in Firefox just being another chrome clone so that it can use chrome extensions

People will just use chrome

>>62149358
I'm convinced this is a ML bot.

its not perfect but its better than chrome
and brave doesnt have any customization or addons

>>62149400
tfw sitting comfy on nightly and 57 still has months worth of improvements before dropping

>>62149424
>not using nightly already...

>>62149485
This.
Cross platform webextensions add more eyes on projects of the foss community and helps with recreating the wheel.

Consumers get the biggest benefit with portability between browsers which helps competition and allows projects to focus excusively on native browser features.

>>62151713
Firefox has many features Chrome doesn't.

There is no advantage to Firefox remaining a single-process browser.

>>62149344
would never use Firefox (gay) or chrome

only brave,opera

>>62151943
wow 3 samey shit browsers. aren't you hip?

>>62149368
I've been using brave, it's a little buggy but mostly good to go (no extensions support but built in ad block)

>>62151943
>>62152134
t. brave shills

buggy as fuck and ugly ui with no addon support

>>62152134
>muh legacy addons

ill just switch to a browser without addons :^)

>>62149400
>>62149485
>>62149669
>>62150050
>>62150499
>>62151638
>>62151795
>>62151852
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
Restrictions are beneficial.

>>62151894
Name one
Also web extensions has little to do with multiprocess support

>>62152182
Not to mention the that it lacks basic features like to copy the page link just by right clicking the page.

>>62152713
To name some:

>Native RSS feed reader
>Scrollable tab bar & tab list
>Bookmark tags
>Separated search bar
>Search through open tabs by putting by putting '%' in the URL bar followed by search criteria
>Integrated tracking protection

>>62152713
>Name one
Firefox is so much more customizable, you can actually theme and change the interface to your liking. I mean about:config alone blows Chrome out of the water.

>>62150959
I love brave on android but on desktop it's not that great.

>>62149344
>>62149358
Is it true that Firefox completely rewrote their code in order to remove the word "slave" and replace it with "king"?

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>mfw the last version I will ever use is 54.0.1

I tried ESR version and it broke one of my important addons so this is where I stay.

>>62152713
Anyone can obtain the source code and freely compile Firefox from source.

>>62149358
this but without the passive-aggressive irony

>>62152867
>>>62152713 (You)
>To name some:
>>Native RSS feed reader
RSS died when Google Reader died. Nobody uses it anymore
>>Scrollable tab bar & tab list
Same in chrome
>>Bookmark tags
Only autists have the time or patience to catalog and tag their bookmarks
>>Separated search bar
Makes zero difference to functionality. Pointless having a separate search bar when you can search right from the address bar
>>Search through open tabs by putting by putting '%' in the URL bar followed by search criteria
Literally never heard of this, and sounds autistic too
>>Integrated tracking protection
What is uBlock/Ghostery/Disconnect

>>62153822
>Google Reader
Feedly took that mantle, and yes, many websites still use RSS.

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>>62153822
>>>Scrollable tab bar & tab list
>Same in chrome

No, it's not the same. In Firefox, if you open more tabs than the window can display, instead of shrinking the tabs down infinitely, it puts the tabs out of bounds and allows you to scroll through the tabs from left to right using either the mouse wheel or the two arrows at either end of the tab bar. There is also a menu button to the right of the new tab button which allows you to see all of your tabs in a comprehensive dropdown list.

Chrome instead shrinks the tabs down to the point where you can't see anything, so you have to hover over the tabs and rely on the tool-tips, and there's no dropdown list that can get you out of it.

>>62149358
>fascist
>SJW
You mean Communist?
Or maybe you like oxymoronic statements, drink hot-cold coffee?

Any idea of an alternative to AppChanx - the default layout is a pain when late night browsing

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>>62154066
Now contrast that image with this one. Chrome just doesn't manage tabs as well as Firefox.

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>>62154141
I like to call those 'Toblerone tabs'.

>>62153464
slave got renamed to follower and master as leader.

And they awarded them with 15k

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>try to replace Stylish with Stylus
>it doesn't fucking work
>go back to Stylish
>just werks
I guess I'm not upgrading.
Is there any legacy Stylish fork that removes telemetry?

>>62149697
No, because Firefox devs create a superset of WebExtensions in order to port more plugins.

>>62154320
Probably the things that are not working on stylus will be the same ones that are not going to work on stylish once they have ported it to web-extensions.

>>62151713
>>62149754
see >>62154340

>>62154346
Stylish works perfectly on Nightly (08.04) though.
Best of both worlds: mulitprocess (quick) and all my addons work. If only Rikaisama didn't require me to open a new non-e10s window then I would be happy. I know it's some shitty FF tomfoolery because after reinstalling Nightly it works in e10s until I restart the browser.

>>62153822
don't be so obvious, at least put some effort into it...

>>62149344
>ITT: people bitching about the transition to the glorious superset of WebExtensions

>>62154488
>You: a mindless "hurr durr all change must be good" drone

>>62154425
Yeah, there's some broken leagacy addons just cause some APIs got renamed...

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>>62152758
Im sorry?

>>62154425
Then wouldn't it be broken after reinstall too?
I'm thinking it's something else, but maybe I'm wrong.

>>62154553
>>62154525
cont and it wouldn't work in non-e10s either.

Anyone knows what makes extensions be broken in e10s? All other legacy extensions work fine.

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>>62154541
>says can't copy page link by clicking the page
>posts himself clicking a link on the page

>>62154103
https://zixaphir.github.io/appchan-x/
You mean that? There is a huge link pointing to
https://ccd0.github.io/4chan-x/
which is what everyone else uses.

>>62154587
with the option to copy

>>62154514
Not necessarily, but this one is and it is rather painless if you don't use shady meme extensions without maintainers.

>>62154587
wait, what? why would you right click on the page to copy the current pages link if the fucking address bar is right there? do you have some kind of mobility issue or mental retardation?

>>62149344
Why do you autists care about browsers so much, all you Niggers talk about all day on here.
All browsers literally do the same shit.

>>62150016
Newfag

>the update deleted my addon bar
NOW I'M MAD
What browser is decent that can use old firefox addons?
Either that, or is there an addon bar extension that Mozilla didn't ruin?

>>62149344
Abord old, unsecured, bloated and non standard api that is a nightmare to maintain. In profit of a modern but not complet (yet I hope), standard api.
Yes I think Mozilla made the right choice.

>>62149344
Not a problem for me since all my extensions will still work.

>>62154580
Will try to explain, with e10s legacy extension must use the message manager in order to communicate between chrome and content processes, some extensions didn't need content processes so they still work fine, others just updated the addon to use the message manager, abandoned addons never got an update and others devs decided not to update cause the xul/xcom deprecation notice came shortly after the message manager implementation.

Sorry for my broken English.

>>62154702
Cyberfox still supports it for me witht he classic shell. I have the all in one sidebar and tab mix plus still working.

>>62154655
>type something into bar once
>try to undo it later to get URL
>unlike every other browser, it doesn't undo to the original URL
>refreshing doesn't put the original UR
>can't copy page URL from context menu
uninstalled

>>62154630
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ui-enhancer/

Tell me how to port this, then.

Cause the only way I've found so far is replicating the awesome bar on js inside a toolbar heavily customized and that's a fucking crazy job and the toolbar api is not implemented yet so maybe it's not customizable enough to do this so you have to resort to a panel injected into the page but that will be shit for security reasons.

So web-extensions are making technically impossible to create innovative addons.

But, hey you can always blame the addon author for not porting the addon.

There's really no point in using it any more
might as well go back to chrome

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>>62154488
> superset

WTF web-extensions is a pretty little subset of what legacy addons can do, pic related.

>>62154679
> All browsers literally do the same shit.

Now they do.

>>62149344
to make fox go sanic

>>62154702
waterfox works too.

>>62154488
>t. Soros-era firecucks shill.

>>62155069
>cuck
>shill
>>>/r/the_donald

>>62154797
And somehow when you reinstall FF the first time you open FF this message manager isn't required?
Because as I wrote the extension works after reinstall until you restart FF.

>>62155121
I'm in two minds to just never sleep and never close FF, sadly some of my other addons need retart.

>>62155140
*only sleep computer

>>62154488
>chrome doesn't even support sidebars
wtf lol

>>62155160
This was the thing that made me not want to use chrome. I've had all in one sidebar for Firefox for years; it's literally the best addon after adblockers. At least Vivaldi has a side-bar, even if it's not as good.

>>62154705
Bootstraped and xul overlay addons may be old but are a lot more powerful and flexible than web-extensions.

The security issues are similar and some addon devs will have to resort to ugly hacks to emulate features that are going to be a lot worse for both performance and security.

Also the "modern" and "standard" web-extension API it's implemented on different ways and has different features depending on the browser so it's pretty much useless as a standard, it lacks of low level APIs and will never have feature parity with the old legacy extensions.

I'm not even defending xul, just pointing out that the replacement has NO FLEXIBILITY (unless you have more than a million users, then they may accept your API requests)

>>62155121
I'm trying to think for a reason.. it may be some of the non-standard stuff that got changed to follow the new ecmascript standard.. in the past for each and let worked in a different way, or maybe some permission that needs to be added to the manifest, it'll be better if i just take a look into the code real quick

>>62149344
It's a global change in how it allows mods/addons.
It's gonna be easier to make addons, but the current ones that infest itself into the firefox executables won't work.

See it like how Wolfenstein and DOOM handles mods.
It's a shitty move, but in time this move will make it easier and you'll look back at it and realize that it was just shitty before they started doing addons for the newer type.

>>62153822
>>Native RSS feed reader
>RSS died when Google Reader died. Nobody uses it anymore
>I stopped using it so everyone stopped using it
google reader isn't the only rss client, anon

>>62154320
Not a fork of Stylish, but look into StylRRR

>>62149344
THEY BROKE UBLOCK
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THOSE ASSHOLES

HOW DO I DOWNGRADE

>>62155779
Just use one of the other firefox-based browsers like Water/Cyber Fox.

>>62149368
The Brave web browser. It has adblockers built in natively and was created by the dev team leader that was dropped by Mozilla Firefox once they brought in the SJWs that took the Soros funding at the start of this year. It is in its early phases, but is free and runs light enough. After Firefox told me I could not keep my adblockers after it updated a few days ago, I ended up replacing it with Brave and have not looked back.

>>62154304
and yet the other faggots and trannies that post here think >>62149358 is a shitpost. any mozilla employee that whined about brandon eich deserves the rope.

>>62149368
Vivaldi.

>>62155862
lol not this again

>>62155796
Those fork based Firefox browsers are also comprised, and eventually will fall into the same hole.

>>62155892
what about the leaked opera 12 code? we could use it to make a browser beyond the grips of these commie bastards.

>>62155584
But the scope of what you can do is more limited now and the less popular extensions that change UI will never get replacements (not possible with webextensions and FF only adds functionality for the most popular extensions).

>>62154425
Well, the good news is that it can be fixed in about... 1 hour the bad news is that i'm not going to do it today... where should i post an update for this addon?

*Note that legacy extensions can't be uploaded to AMO anymore.

>>62156158
You mean Rikaisama or what?
Just fork it on Github.
I would suggest using https://github.com/txgio/orikaisama as it has a vital addition (ability to choose which entry to export to Anki) and this addition is simple enough that it shouldn't make it harder to fix, right?

>>62156379
ok... so i should fix orikaisama instead?

I'll fork it tomorrow and fix it this weekend.

>>62156408
I would be eternally grateful.

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>palemoon.org
>addons.palemoon.org

Notify developers of your favorite addons that Pale Moon isn't in the business of restricting freedom unlike Mozilla.

Many old, essential Firefox addons work with Pale Moon out of the box and many more with the Moon-Tester tool -- with Pale Moon you'll be able to continue using your favorite addons past Mozilla's deprecation of XUL and *real* browser extension technology.

>>62149358
Jesus christ
Reactionary nu-males, everyone.
Go back to le donald

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>>62156496
>Notify developers of your favorite addons that Pale Moon isn't in the business of restricting freedom unlike Mozilla.
TOP FUCKING KEK!
Where the fuck have you been?

PaleMeme devs are pieces of shit.

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=16504

>>62156408
>>62156437
Fuck me, I'm new to this github shit.

The better version is https://github.com/txgio/orikaisama/tree/rikaichan-entry-chooser
I just downloaded the release, didn't know that it was release of a branch and master never got released.

Hopefully you see it.

>>62156569
>buttmad libtard got triggered
>can't stand the freedom of 4chan
>tells others to go to a cucked site
kek'd, you worthless sack of shit. kys.

>>62156629
How does that prevent anyone from installing addons, anon.

Moonchild did nothing wrong.

>>62149400

Clearly, you don't use any interesting extensions.

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>>62154199
Imagine being so fat you look at a browser and see candy.

>>62156690
It's actually the opposite. I'm actually very skinny, have trouble gaining weight and frequently hungry.

>>62153822
>>>>Native RSS feed reader
>RSS died when Google Reader died. Nobody uses it anymore
This is correct.

>>62156672
>prevent
>Moonchild did nothing wrong.
Manchild is imposing his morality on everyone else. He's a fascist. Fuck off for supporting those who curtail our freedoms.

>>62156916
I think you're being a bit silly anon.

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>>62156978
>defends censorship
kys.

>>62157104
>censorship
>can just re enable any addon by editing a file

>>62157260
>censorship
>can just listen to radio free europe