/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Kill yourself, shill

Im running the strix 1080 with all games maxed at 1440p 165fps

You dont need a 1080ti lol

>>62144566
what games?

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My monitor (ASUS PB258Q) only has unadjustable hypersaturated presets and unconfigurable srgb mode. So everything's either blown out or washed out and there's not really an in-between.

How do you guys calibrate your monitor? Is there some software I should be using?

>>62144594
Age of Empoeirs 2 HD

>>62144651
nice, looks like you really didn't need a Ti

Is A8 9600 good?

Im in to buy a 1600x ryzen CPU to upgrade my shitmachine
What mobos and RAM are suggested on a medium budget?
I heard fast ram is important for the infinity fabric, but should i look for 3200 over 2400 or prefer lower clocked dual rank sticks?

>>62144776
Yes prefer 3200.
Get a B350 board.
You should probably just get a 1600 and not an X. The 1600 comes with a very good stock cooler and can be overclocked just as well as the X can.

Is it reasonable to expect the 570/580's won't drop back to normal this year? I'm tired of waiting and might just pickup a 1050 to hold me over.

>>62144749
no, dont buy any processors older than ryzen from amd. buy a r3 1200 or a g4560 if you need integrated graphics.

>>62144823
Restocks slated for october might see a dip but they will not be MSRP. Get a 1050ti if you need a GPU but don't want to splurge for a 1080ti

Why is RAM still retard expensive? I bought 8GB like 6 years back, and it's still the same fucking price. I want to upgrade to 16 already.

>>62144805
Even though i wrote like it is for myself, im building the machine fo someone else.
Hes using it for gaming and is not tech inclined, so no overclocking and the twenty bucks wont kill him
Ive also always heard about the great stock coolers and this applies to the x as well? He wants to get himself a cheap ass CPU fan and I suggested against it for this reason

how cheap can you go with regard to mobo, ram, cpu and gpu?

my dad needs a new home pc, the only reqs are a ~250gb ssd and 1tb hdd

>>62144939
The X doesn't come with a stock cooler. But yes the one that comes on the 1600 is pretty damn good, and even good enough for a moderate overclocking.
OC is quite easy with Ryzen, you could do it for him quickly with a moderate OC like 3.7 GHz that would be 100% safe. But even a stock clocked 1600 is pretty good.

>>62144955
Don't cheap out on mobo. You can get a decent one for ~$75 with rebates and specials.
RAM is RAM but don't buy literally who RAM. You don't want to have to deal with RMAing dead sticks, just stick with G. Skill, Corsair, Kingston, or crucial. On a budget, 2133mhz is fine, prioritize the speed over the CAS latency if buying Ryzen.
an r3 1200 is fine if you're tight on money, just don't expect a lot. depending on what your dad needs it for, it might be enough.
GPU too can be skimped on if he doesn't need it. If he doesn't game or do anything graphically intensive, a 1030 would be more than enough.

>>62144594
hi this wasn't me
>>62144651

I am running DOOM, BF1, Crysis and Prey at 165FPS @ 1440p 165hz monitor

>>62144651
aoe2 hd is a good game such an ebin response my man

>>62145001
And you think a 3.7GHz overclock on a "cheap" MSI Gaming Plus/Asus Rog Strix/Gigabyte GA Gaming B350 is completely worryless and easy via UEFI? Those are some of the cheapest ATX options i found and consider

>>62145035
what cpu?
he got a quote through work and they suggested i5-7400

it also had a gtx1050 (which seemed like overkill to me)

>>62145063
I've heard a lot of bad things against Gigabyte in those threads, but I don't have any experience myself. But yes, any of these motherboards will be fine for a moderate OC.

It's only when you start to get in very high OC that you should start looking for a board with good VRMs that have sufficient cooling.

>>62144955
Don't get a Ryzen. Get something with integrated graphics like a Pentium G4560.

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hi, ausfag here
just wanna build a pc below 500 aud
is this all i need?
could i make any improvements other than my budget?

>>62144955
Buy a prebuilt unless you really need to customize it somehow. You can't get similar price to performance ratio by buying individual components.

>>62145109
same guy here,
i already own a hard drive and monitor

>>62145109
You don't need thermal paste, the stock cooler comes with preapplied paste. Also consider getting 1050ti, it trashes 560 in benchmarks. I'm not sure how much it costs though.

>>62145109
might want to consider a hdd

>>62145131
1050Ti starts around $150

>>62145063
The B350 Tomahawk from MSI will overclock just fine (I own one and I'd recommend it, it's an everyman's board and at 90$ with a rebate it's not too expensive or too cheap) and if you don't like MSI's BIOS you can easily do it with AMD's Ryzen Master software, which is very easy to use. Though be warned, that board is notoriously slow to boot so if the unit you buy has an old BIOS you might need to flash it.
But any of those boards will probably overclock just fine as well, and again you can always use the Ryzen Master software, which is worryless and can easily get you a modest 3.8Ghz overclock on any Ryzen CPU. The UEFI is only really necessary if you're shooting for higher than that, in which case you might need to mess with voltage and base clocks and whatnot.

>>62145066
Don't buy 4 CPUs in 2017 unless you're on a desperately tight budget please.
The 1030 will do him fine if he's not gaming, but if he wants to do graphics work you might want to splash on the 1050.

>>62145101
The G4560 is overpriced right, if it's not sold out, and the HD 610 is pretty much worthless for gaming. If he really don't mind buying a dual core in 2017, might as well buy the G4600, 10 dollars more at current rates and at least you get the 630, which is at least better than last gen consoles. But he might as well buy an AM4 board and an A10 APU if he doesn't having a shit CPU with much better integrated graphics, and it gives him the option of upgrading down the line without hunting on Ebay for Intel'ss quad core leftovers.

>>62145109
Fuck's sake don't pay 80$ for a dual core lad, you already have the GPU, 20 dollars more and you get a Ryzen quad core with an actual upgrade path.

>>62145201
>A10 APU
if it's for his dad to go read his emails, i doubt he cares about graphics performance compared to last gen consoles.

>>62145201
Fuck's sake I bummed up the spelling a few times here.

*Don't buy four thread CPUs
*it's overpriced right now
*really doesn't mind
*if he doesn't mind having a shit CPU
I need coffee.

>>62145222
Oh, yeah you're right sorry, confused the conversations there for a second. Again, I need coffee.

>>62145109
Mate even the normal 1050 trashes the 560 for less of a price. Save 20$ by going for the 1050 and invest it in an R3 1200.

>>62145247
this nagga has good advice

Trying to do some stuff to this R5 1600 that I just got, does anybody know how I can find out the date it was manufactured? I vaguely remember there being guides for this using a code somewhere (on the heatspreader?), but my google-fu has failed me.

>>62144475
Upgraded from a phenom II X4 and 4 gigs of ram, got the R5 1600, 8 gigs and a B350, the performance difference is blowing me the fuck away, not to mention how quiet the wraith is compared to the phenom's stock cooler, which was hitting 90c under load ez, and sounded like a jet fighter trying to break the stratosphere

The R5 even under heavy load doesn't hit 75c in my shit weather, the wraith sounds like a kitten sleeping, and what the Phenom struggled to transcode for days the 1600 does it in hours, I can even transcode while playing gayms normally.

Only let down about the whole thing is I got gouged, but frankly still happy, shit's so amazing I'm having trouble believing AMD pulled this shit.

Def recommended for productivity and gayming, best price for performance, your gpu and hdd will be your bottlenecks.

Also Intel are literal jews

>>62145433
50 shekels have been deposited in your AMDaccount™

Anyone on Mexico knows where to get good deals?
Everything seems to be overpriced here compared to Newegg or Amazon US
I have around 500 bucks to build a PC for 1080p 60Hz gaming.

>>62145449
t. jew

>>62145561
Literally just order from the US.
How much is that in pesos?

$35 FOR 620 WATTS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-151-096

>>62145449
Just my 2 cents, I could've bought a 7700 but nah.

Damn I wish I was paid to shitpost.
>>62145745

Have it, it's preddy gud, ran my phenom II X4 and an HD 7950 plus a couple of hdds and didn't shit it self or heat up as much as it should've.

Also has 2 PCI-E 6 pin.

1. What's the to-go 2tb external drive for just unloading shit on it and keep it in a closet?
2. Have this ram currently 9905403-439.A00LF (2x4) and two free slots. Any hope I can just add some similar kit instead of selling and buying a 2x8?

>>62145963
>external hard drives

>>62146003

I already have one, a Samsung, served me for five years and not a single problem. The shit is full though, and so are my 500-500-1tb internal. I need more.

No, I'm never gonna run any NAS bullshit and I'm not sure if it's safe to keep a 2tb internal for storage running 24/7.

Looked it up online, yet I'm still curious

Can I just switch my motherboard with Windows 10 like switching a graphics card?

>>62145109
R3 and 1050 TI

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>>62146043

>>62146043
and i thought i was the dumbest person here

>>62146209
Turn in your trophy

>>62146043
Easily.

>>62145060
What about dishonored 2?

>tfw no X370 mATX boards from someone who isn't cheap chink shit like Biostar

>>62144776
>What mobos and RAM are suggested on a medium budget?
MSI B350 Tomahawk is among the most popular motherboards.
Ram should be 3000 or 3200 Mhz with Samsung B-die. G.Skill ram seems to work best

When the fuck are prices going to drop for the 1080? Fucking miners.

>>62147243
You can find a 1080 for reasonable prices.

>>62147260
On amazon?

>>62147243
prices for the 1080, 1050, 1050Ti, RX 550, and RX 560 are completely normal. They haven't been affected by miners.
It's the prices of the 1060 6GB, 1070, RX 570 and RX 580 that have been affected

>>62147279
I see i remember seeing the 1080 awhile back for around $400 or so not $570+. If thats the case with the 1080 should I get the 1080 now or what?

>>62147298
MSRP for the 1080 is around $500
Prices are actually normal.
You were probably thinking of a sale

>>62147310
1080 worth getting or should I wait?

>>62147383
yes it's worth getting.

>>62145247
This.

>>62144600
(dont get a shit monitor)

What "graphically intensive" gaymes actually came out in the last couple of years that would have been worth upgrading for?

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>>62146043

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It's my first time building a PC and just tried putting it together.
The motherboard lights up but nothing else seems to be reacting. I have 0 experience with cables so I'm not even sure where and how to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Any recommendations on where to start?

>>62146043
If you bought Win10 separately, yes.
If you bought a prebuilt with Win10 on it, probably not.

>>62148357
The fans don't spin when you power it up?
is your power button wired properly?

also you should route your cables behind the motherboard tray, not in front of the motherboard. unless you have a terribly shit case that doesn't allow it.

1440p is a fucking meme

Heres my build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VpTthq

i will be getting water cooling for the build, so no CPU fans. any recommendations besides switching to AMD, Anons?

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>>62148461
Do you mean these ones? Or the ATX power connectors? (I'm so sorry about this, there's just so many wires and names for them)
The fans don't spin at all.
Thanks for the tip, I was planning on cleaning the wires up once I got it to work

>>62148760
I mean yeah, if the power button isn't wired on correctly of course nothing is going to turn on.

>>62148783
Just removed all of them in hopes of noticing and fixing any problems I did incorrectly the first time. I'll report back asap

>>62148706
No need for 4x4Gb, that cpu only supports dual channel. 2x8 will be the same and will allow more room for an upgrade.
If you're already spending that much, get a bigger SSD, and why not an m.2.
that case looks like complete trash.
and getting only a 1060 kinda defeats the purpose of going all out on the 7700k. the only reason to get that over ryzen is for the gaming performance, so if you get a middle of the road gpu with it you're just wasting money.

>>62148706
There's no reason to get 7700k if you're getting mid tier card so upgrade that if possible or just go Ryzen.

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is one of the best thermal pastes (but really we're talking 1-2c at best)

>>62147825
Crysis.

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Opinions on Corsair Carbide 270R? I'm in EU so don't suggest other cases, most of them are overpriced as fuck and 270R is currently on sale.

>>62147825
The good ones actually are pretty well optimized (Doom, Prey, Tomb Raider). Right now the only thing I can think of that needs a not-too-shit pc is PUBG, but that's not even a good-looking game.
Or I guess The Witcher 3, but that's almost an old game by now.

>>62148935
It's pretty damn good.

Provided my cpu doesn't bottleneck my gpu, Would any cpu be ok?
I don't have any examples in mind but I'm mostly asking out of curiosity.

>>62148783
I'd die for you, anon.
Turns out that all I had to do was switch 2 of the wires! Now hopefully I'll be able to connect it to my monitor

>>62149106
lol

>>62149185
I didn't really expect that to be the issue, but since you said it's your first build and you have no idea what you're doing with cables...
Well that's good, it's much better news than a defective PSU or motherboard.

>>62149259
Me neither! Should've paid more attention to the + and - signs. Like you said, I'm just glad that that was the big issue.

Turns out that I still need to order a DVI cable so that I'll be able to connect my monitor to the graphics card. Can't believe I missed such an obvious detail.

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It has been nearly 6 hours and this stock of overpriced RX 580s is still there.

>going for a cheap build
>reusing an old 1080p monitor
>it only had VGA and new cards are digital only
well fuck.

>>62149566
Adapters exist.

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Anons i built my pc (pic related) more than a year ago, it's nothing fancy since i was (and still am) on budget but as you can see i never got a gpu 'cause a friend told me to wait to get the then soon to be released rx 400 series. Stuff happened and i never got one (i wanted the 470) so now i searched a bit about the 500 series and, since it looks pretty similar, i wanted to get the 570, but they skyrocketed in price. Should i just wait or look for something else? Like for example i found a Zotac GTX 1050 Ti 4GB at 175 eurobucks on amazon, is it good? I would like something that's not nvidia though.

>>62149588
oh. thank you.

Why the fuck did Intel think releasing a 4c/8t Xeon at 120 watts was a good idea?

>>62149678
>I would like something that's not nvidia though.
Why? Anyway the 1050Ti can usually be had for around 150€.

>psu fan stopped spinning
>i dont think my psu has overheating protection
>i want to play vidya
do i risk it? what's the worst that can happen? psu is shitty 530w and my pc uses ~250w max

>>62149945
buy a new psu

>>62149719
>Why?
i don't really like the stuff nvidia pulled recently with geforce experience and whatnot
>Anyway the 1050Ti can usually be had for around 150€.
yeah but is it good? Should i look for something else? My budget is 200 bucks and something like the 470/570 are good enough for me but since those in particular cost too much right now i'm kind at a loss.

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What's the best external HDD money can buy
Looking at Seagate Expansion and Backup Plus

>>62150015
Honestly, here are your options for 1080p gaming.

Buy the GTX 1050 Ti and underperform w/ 4GB of VRAM.

Buy the GTX 1060 3GB and have perfect performance, but limited VRAM.

Buy the GTX 1060 6GB (wait or get lucky to buy one cheap) and have perfect performance, and double the VRAM.

The GTX 1060 6GB and the RX 580 are supposed to both be ~$200. They're on par with one another, with the 1060 being better. They're both like $300-$350 right now.

I haven't been in the PC building buisness since 2012, so I have 0 idea what all the current stuff out there is like

What's the current best Intel CPU, best NVIDIA CPU and the current CPU sockets?

>>62150083
Basically if you're 1080p gaming, the GTX 1060 6GB and the RX 580 8GB are the cards you want.

>>62150083
>>62150101
So nothing useful for 1080p around the 200$ price tag, is it?
Is there a trusted site where i can check (or even buy) gpus that doesn't deal in overpriced stuff? Asking to fellow europoors anons since i need one that ships in europe.
Anyway thanks for the list anon.

>>62150095
>Best intel CPU
That id yet to be seen, but probably the 8700K

>Best Nvidia CPU
You mean GPU, the 1080ti

AMD is back on the game with Ryzen.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6wMmtJ
Are these monitors good for this build? I never though picking displays would be the hardest part about building a pc.

>>62150200
>You mean GPU
yes sorry my fault

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>>62150193
>So nothing useful for 1080p around the 200$ price tag, is it?
Currently? No. Sadly. I'm sitting here with an HD 6870 waiting for the price to creep back down.

They were $180 in April. Then May happened.

Should I get 4560g+gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H (rev. 1.0)+ 16gb ram ddr4 corsair vengeance for 258$ second hand but with 2 years warranty or there are better deals?

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So there aren't any alternatives to a 1060 3gb that are around the same price (CAD) at the moment?

>>62150483
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Vd6jc
same thing new for $260

>>62150530
The 1060 3gb sits in this odd spot where it exists despite nobody wanting the fucking things.

>>62150530
570

>>62150546
Wow thats amazing but maybe the mobo/ram is way better or it is the same. Also I can go up a bit if it is worth it.

>>62150587
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R64G8K is better
you could just go for 8GB depending on your use

What's a good cheap 120mm pwm fan?

>>62150713
arctic f12 pwm

>>62150713

Arctic F12.

>>62150741
>>62150747
Thx

>>62150555
What games need more than 3gb at 1080p?

>>62150841
All current AAA games.

>>62150859
How many of them are good?

>>62150909
Destiny 2
DOOM™
HITMAN™

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>accidently ordered the wrong RAM
>Now have Red LED lighting up the inside of the PC
thankfully the case has no windows on it

>>62150712
What do you think about this, if I actually safe for a bit and get this will I be safe for a good amount of time?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Also feel free to tweak it if you think there is something better

Should I get a 1060/1070/1080 I mainly play csgo but I want the option to play other games above 144hz.

>>62150994
It just going to be 1080p

>>62150991
shit it is
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wvdg6X

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I'm looking for a new monitor, but I noticed all 4k monitors don't really go above 60hz.
Should I go for that or stick to 1440@144hz?

coming from 1080@144hz

>>62150994
>other games
Can you be more vague?

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Im think about getting this for my GA-Z270X-Gaming 5 and im wondering if i will run into problems with overclocking on a z270 since it says designed for high-performance overclocking on Intel X99 and 100 Series

>>62151047
yeah OTHER as in any other type I'm not really specific because its kind of hard to be specific. I may want to play gta eventually or maybe sonic mania. I'd say 80% of the time Ill be just play cs is what I am saying m8

>>62151021
r5 1600 instead (comes with a cooler).
get asrock pro4 for 2 more ram slots and better audio
get 3000mhz 2x4gb ram. there's 0.01% chance that 4000mhz will work with ryzen

>>62151041
There are no 4k 144hz monitors. 4k is for (((content creation))).

>>62151090
>i will run into problems with overclocking on a z270
no. z170 and z270 are basically the same.

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Have an i5-6600k, just realized that newer games (even not so new as BF1) require hyper threading and that I should get an i7.

What should I upgrade to? I'm running a 1080gtx and Asus H110M-A mobo.

>>62151143

Nothing requires hyperthreading.

>>62151109
Is there a difference between ram brands and you didn't answer my question about the longevity of this build

>>62151113
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg27uq-review/

>>62151190

Samsung B-die is the best ram you can buy.

Thoughts on POWER9-based computers?

https://www.raptorcs.com/

>>62151309
*affordable
if you want to drop a grand on a monitor be my guest.

>>62151186
What do you mean?

>>62151357
It'll be interesting to see some benchmarks on Power9. I wouldn't recommend getting one for normal use unless you're willing to compile everything yourself.

>>62151374
Games aren't really optimized for hyperthreading. Devs are getting.better at utilizing all cores though.

>>62151336
So you're not going to comment on for how long is this build going to be relevant, thank for the help though I do appreciate it.

Why is buyer's remorse so agonizing? Even when you don't have any reason to regret the purchase, it's still there.

>>62151403
You mean to say I shouldn't upgrade my 6600k to an i7 7700k/6700k for better gaming performance?

>>62151485
You'll likely see only a marginal improvement if anything

>>62151485
Unless you have a high refresh rate monitor, there's not really a point.

>>62151452
>how long is this build going to be relevant
we can't see the future, retard. you might as well roll a dice, but seeing how people are still comfortably using 2500k from 2011, it will last at least 5 years (the cpu, you want to upgrade gpu more often for gaming).

>>62151485
if anything you should wait for 8700k. going from 4c/4t to 4c/8t for $300 is retarded

>>62151518
I am trying to run 1080p/144hz

>b-die
what is this fresh new meme?
they used just be called chips

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connect hdmi/dvi adaptor to gpu, monitor keeps saying there's no signal, only way I can use my monitor is by hooking up the vga to my motherboard. time to upgrade monitor or can I fix this shit?

>>62144475
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BmB47h

Go ahead or wait for the 8700k

>>62151021
I'll confirm what the other guy said, go for a 1600, the stock cooler is very good and it overclocks the same as a 1600X. Go for 1x8Gb instead of 2x4, the benefit of dual channel is minimal and you can go for 3200MHz ram, 4000 offers pretty much no gain (plus as the other anon said, it will probably run at 3200 anyway).

This should be good for a while, since that CPU doesn't bottleneck a 1080Ti, and you have a good number of threads which modern programs use more and more. And you can get another 8Gb stick in the future for an easy upgrade (or go for 2x8Gb immediately if you want).

>>62151601
take a picture

>>62151625
usage?

>>62151143
no point in upgrading from a 6600k. you probably haven't even overclocked it seeing as you don't know what hyperthreading is.

>>62151403

>Games aren't really optimized for hyperthreading

That is because Intel's uarch is still relatively "narrow" despite the massive widening that Haswell was. In the same vein its why outside of extreme cases disabling SMT on ryzen doesn't yield any advantages - the core has enough resources that it NEEDS SMT to achieve maximum throughput (and why hyperthreading can lead to negative scaling).

tl;dr 99% of the time hyperthreading is free performance but strictly speaking i7's are too expensive to justify them over cheaper alternatives.

>>62151625
Kek

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>>62150362
>They were $180 in April
>mfw they're more than double that price now
why is this allowed? what hell happened?

>>62151592
Basically, at release Ryzen was VERY particular about RAM if you wanted it to run above 2133MHz. The situation has gotten much better since then, but some RAM is still better than others. And Samsung B-die happens to be the best.

>>62151653
My motherboard does not support overclocking

>>62151652
video encoding and shitposting

>>62151679
:')

>>62151748
why did you buy an unlocked processor then?

>>62151708
M I N E R S
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>>62151717

Random fun fact: as of the latest BIOS for the crosshair hero it now has tuned ram profiles for samsung B-die as created by The Stilt so if you do have some of the good ram you can get some silly good performance out of it.

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>>62151708
>why is this allowed? what hell happened?

>>62151779
It's a long story

>>62149588

Even then apparently some of the newer graphics cards no longer supports analog output, he should probably check if the graphics card have a DVI-I port instead of DVI-D port

>>62151708

Miners

Fuck
I had my sights on a cheap build with a 1050 and now I'm considering buying a 1060 6Gb, so I'd need a new PSU, and I already bought an expensive case, and...
This shit never stops, does it? My hopes of a low budget build are fucked.

>>62150095
Read the OP man

>>62151641
a pic of my screen, or back of monitor?

>>62151803
>>62151807
>>62151834
so is this nightmare gonna end or their prices are permanently fucked?

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>want to build my own pc
>always scared i'll break a part or that i will break something while installing the parts

>>62151977
Nothing lasts forever but it probably will be bad for another month or two at least

>>62145745
damn it's 75€ for me right now and that's considered a good price
sad

how usual is to buy used computers?
is it always better to buy brand new?
what if the deal is good for used one, does it justify it?

>>62151988
If you tend to push things together so hard they break, don't build a computer.
If you are a normal human, it is pretty easy

>>62151996
>month or two
ahahahaha. more like half a year

>>62151826
the adapter setup

>>62152068
It is worse than buying brand new, but cheaper.
A used computer is better than a cheap computer.
I just completed my masters degree. I didn't have any money from my parents and I didn't take on any debt while I studied.
A used thinkpad was good enough, there were no reason to get something else.

>>62152068
>how usual is to buy used computers?
when your budget is low or you just want to save some $$$

>is it always better to buy brand new?
depends on what you're buying. ram, cpus, cases, ssds are pretty safe. gpus less so. used hdds are a poor idea

>what if the deal is good for used one, does it justify it?
yeah. there's always a risk but if you can, for example, buy a used gtx 980ti for $250 then it's a no-brainer (as long as it works.)

Why recommend a 1070 in the OP that card is dead after vega

>>62152244
Vega isn't available.

>>62152244
poojet do something more respectable than shilling on 4chan, 1070 utterly btfos Vega 56 without being a house fire.

>>62146622
i don't own this game

Give me 1 (one) reason I should upgrade my i3 4170.

Protip: You can't.

>>62152733
its poopy

>>62152733
it's a great cpu for checking your emails

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how badly did i fuck up

>>62152775
looks ok

Did you oc ryzen? temps for mobo at load?

>>62152775
nice. you've got more cpu than gpu, but that's expected because fuck miners.

>>62152775
Should have just got a 1070. You fucked up.

>>62152775
Looks fine.

>>62152810
ryzen is at 3.7, dunno mobo load temp
>>62152832
couldnt find any

>>62152775
>using tv as your monitor
>32" and 1080p
disgusting

>>62152861
seems fine if he is on a budget

How does one go about attaching a second hard drive? What special things need to be done to make it work?

>>62152913
connect sata port to mobo and then to hard drive

then ur done

>>62152934
How about properly formatting it and such?

>>62152966
windows disk partition tool, ez

>>62152775
what memory did you get? some typical 2x8GB kit or you went for the samsung b-die chips?
I'm vary of buying ryzen because of the ram thing and I wish to know how hard was it to get it to 2933MHz

will ram prices drop by november?

>>62153084
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

didn't know anything about the samsung die thing, but yeah it was a learning process getting it to stick to 2933 with the cpu overclock

>>62153106
Good to know. Did you try to go higher than the rated 2933?

>>62153121
i did, but it very much did not like 3066 or higher, though it might've if i'd overclocked the cpu less.

the cpu speed and ram speed settings seem to be related for how stable it is

>>62153105
1. Buy a 2011v1 mobo with RECC support
2. RAM will cost as low, as 60 bucks for 32Gb
3. ???????????
4. PROFIT

>>62153166
THIS MADE MY PENIS REALLY HARD!!!!

>>62153121
>>62153084
do keep in mind i know dick ass shit about overclocking so if you know anything about it you can probably do it super easy unlike me

>>62153222
However, motherboards that allow overclock E5-1650 to 4.2-4.5GHz and support Registered ECC are all kinda Chinese. E.g. they have no brand analogues, and have initially been released for internal Chinese market.
But nowadays, they're sold on Aliexpress worldwide.

>>62153280
STOP MAKING MY PENIS HARD ANON

Oh for fuck's sake. While looking for a new case I've been getting gradually sentimentally attached to my doorless, stripped-down shitheap.

Why should I go higher than 1500x?

>>62153305
Because the 1600x has a solid 4.0ghz turbo boost and I'm autistic and like good round numbers.

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>>62153330
That's not a reason, BTW. That's me making an excuse.

>>62153303

Buy the Define R5 and live in a permanent state of patrician.

>>62153305
Because the 1600 is what, 30 bucks more? Unless saving that 30 bucks is actually important, there's very little reason to get the 1500x.

>>62151625
anyone?

>tfw the meshify c is sold out everywhere
:^)

my mobo takes my clock settings but not my voltage settings for the cpu, what do? (i turned it off auto but it just stays at what it was.) (msi b350 tomahawk)

1400 > 1500x

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>>62153404
>Because the 1600 is what, 30 bucks more?
Fucking monopoly money.

>>62153330
but the non-x has a free fan
how am i supposed to have my round numbers and freebies? :(

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>people still wasting their time on lesser video cards

>>62153622
but can it be sli'd?

I've been playing @60hz 1080p all my life. I don't care for meme 1440p, but I'm curious: is 144Hz really all that good?

Got a few questions.
So far, I have bought what's listed as purchased here (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZLhBKZ)
And my budget is locked.
1. How well will this set up work for editing videos for YouTube?
2. How well will this run stuff like DayZ? I have most of the modern stuff on Current gen consoles (I know) so I don't plan on rebuying most of the games.
3. What am I missing? I have a TV I planned on using as a monitor, I have mouse and keyboard and a few other items, just want to know what y'all thought.

>>62153848
If you play competitive fps, sure

>>62153866
>1x8gb @2400 ram

>>62153848
yeah, it's smooth as a motherfucker, my friend has one (asus VG248 or something like that) and I played some CSGO and TF2 on it. It's a pleasant experience for gayman, but sadly the colors are dogshit. I bought into the IPS meme very early and that 144Hz TN panel looks like a display from early 2000s in terms of colour (hell, my 2003 HP2025 display probably looks better)

tl;dr - if you got IPS before 144Hz, you will have a hard time getting used to 144.

>>62153919
I'm just trying to get it built as soon as possible. I'm stuck using a phone right now man.

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>>62144475
Should I pull the trigger? Already own a good enough PSU?

Planning to play on 4K.

>>62153958
>RGB Gaymur ram

:3

>>62154067
It's badass

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Ive got pic related(NZXT S340)

Planning on slapping this in it:
Ryzen 1600x
MSI X370
GTX 1080Ti Seahawk
2x8 GB G. SKILL Flare X 3200mhz
CORSAIR - Hydro Series 120mm

As far as i can tell it should all fit, im just abit worried about temps with 2 radiators inside the case, and where i should place them.

Thoughts?

>>62154122
The Seahawk is meant for custom water cooling loops, not working with AIO's. Consider a different 1080Ti

>>62154160
the Seahawk is the AIO version, the one for custom loops is the Seahawk EK

>t. guy who wishes he could find a 1080ti seahawk EK

>>62154122
sounds Pgood man

I'd get the 1700/X just for shits and giggles though

>>62153369
>Buy the Define R5 and live in a permanent state of patrician.
Debated it. Not sure I like it. Tried looking up tests to see if there was any proof of the special foam and claims of it being a sound-dampening case were legit. The tests didn't really showcase much.

>>62154122
You have very few options for radiators in this case.

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Help.
This is my first PC. I just built it last week.
All my games are running like shit. 25 - 40 fps depending on where I am/what I'm doing/etc.

What can I do here to fix my problem?

>>62154377
Install drivers

>>62154401
Did that.

The AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs are released now, it's time to replace the G4560 for poverty builds. They have a better upgrade path and better iGPU performance which are the only arguments for getting the G4560 right now.

>>62154377
Are you sure your games have dynamic super resolution disabled (i.e. render scale is 100% and not more)?

I think my PC finally bit the dust today, so I will probably need a new mobo/CPU.

How long will Ryzen 1600 last me, performance-wise? I currently can't use PC much, so I'm not going to make a use of it for a long time, and I'm kind of afraid that by the time I get to use it I would need another upgrade... Do people know if the next gen of CPUs will be slot compatible with the 1600?

Also, could someone recommend a good but at least somehow budget mobo for 1600 that would have 2x PCI-E x16 slot?

I bought a Corsair 200R as a budget case a couple years back. I'm wanting to upgrade to something with better air flow and dust resistance. My mobo is a mini ATX. Any recommendations? Budget isn't an issue.

>>62154603
10 years
Yes it will
Any B350, but they dont support sli

>>62154409
did you install the chipset drivers from AMD?
The nvidia drivers from geforce experience?
The bios update from MSI?
There's a bunch of things that could be at fault here.

>>62154653
Literally 10 years or are you memeing? Anyway, I'm mostly concerned about having to buy another mobo when I'll upgrade, so if the next gen uses the same slot, that sounds good.

I don't need SLI, I'm a foldingfag, so I just need both slots to be Gen3 and true x16. Sorry if my questions are stupid, I've been out of hardware for like 10 years now, my last PC was built for me by a friend.

>>62154734
You should have at least 5 more years on this socket, and I'd expect a 1600 to be fine 5 years from now with the entry/mid gpus of then.

>>62154734
>Anyway, I'm mostly concerned about having to buy another mobo when I'll upgrade
AMD has committed to the AM4 socket through 2020 at minimum.
I'd expect the 1600 to be average or entry level in about 5-7 years.

>>62154774
>>62154788
Great, thanks. It still feels awful paying for a PC I can't really use, but at least I know I'm futureproofed.

Is there any mobo that's both OC friendly and has the 2 x16 PCI-E slots? My M5A97 apparently bottlenecked the second GPU slot for some reason, don't want to fall for that again.

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>Etherium is now over $370
We're not going to see cheap cards until after January, aren't we?

>>62154893
Dual gpu is a bad meme

>>62154971
As I said, I use it to fold, not for gaming performance or whatever.

>>62153280
Biostar? What brands should I look for on Ali out of curiosity?

>>62154958
give it a year.

Just Wait™

>>62144475
>Pentium
>Not Athlon

>>62151988
The apprehension is understandable, but trust me
I'm not the most nimble/dextrous with my hands, but I just finished my third build a few days ago, and never broken anything during assembly

Is $125 for a used EVGA GTX 1050 TI SC a good price? It's less than a month old and it seems that I can transfer the warranty to myself.

>>62155156
They can't possibly have used it that hard in a month
Good price as long as it actually works

>>62151988
Unless you're some hamfisted retard who frequently smashes things when you try to pick them up, then building a computer is easy. It's literally like a Lego set, except each brick costs somewhere between fifty and a couple hundred dollars.
The only thing that's kind of scary would be plugging the 24 pin power connector in if the fit is kind of tight.

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Any complete fuck ups here?

>>62155215
Yes, the CPU, motherboard, RAM, HDD, PSU and OS.

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>>62155215
>FX-9590
>5900 RPM drive
>1000w PSU rated at 80+ Bronze

>>62154122
I have an S340 too. I stuck a Corsair H100i at the front of the case behind the magnetic dust filter.

>>62155215
whAT

currently looking to upgrade my G4600 to the i7-7700T

only 35 watts which is almost half of my current CPU, but adds 2 physical cores and 8 total threads

>>62155308
GET A 8700K KID

>>62155229
>>62155249
>>62155273
pls explain

>>62155323
It's incompatible with 100 and 200 series motherboards. Try again kid.

Is there any reason to choose a X370 motherboard over a B350 one? I'm buying a Ryzen 5 1600x and will be hoping to get it to 4Ghz with 3200Mhz+ on the RAM.

>>62155348
Gamer cred.

>>62155331
The FX CPUs are outdated and no one should build a PC from them. The performance is not worth it for the money since the 8 core FX can be outperformed by a dual core Intel i3.

That said, AMD's Ryzen CPUs are the best bang for the buck at the moment.
Read the OP and choose one of the suggested Ryzen CPUs.
As a bonus, you don't need water cooling on most of them. And all but the 1600X, 1700X, and 1800X come with good coolers that can handle an overclock

>>62155348
SLi or PCIe lanes.

>>62155323

i have a 1150 h100 mobo

>>62155348
SLI, more USB/PCIe. You can just get a 1600 if you OC, and you can just get a B350.

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RX 580s have officially been up for sale for 24 hours at under $300 without being sold out.

Progress!

>>62155400

1151

>>62155331
>OS
you can download windows 10 for free from ms website. activate it after installation, buy a key for literally 5$ on the internet. or you know. fuck off with your nonfree software.
>1000w PSU 80+
these numbers dont increase your fps. a 1000W 80+ PSU will waste 20% energy at it's best, which is somewhere between 700 and 1000 W. your components will need ~500W under full load. a 1000W PSU which only gives 500W will perform even worse than it's already piss-poor bronze rating, probably consuming 600W just to supply 400W. and if you dont pay for electricity, you might as well re-purpose your toaster, that will come 80$ cheaper.
>RAM DDR3
contrary to above, bigger "DDR" and "GB" numbers are better. 16GB is good, but atleast get DDR4.

what's a good build to play destiny 2 at 1080p 60fps?

>>62155354
>>62155394
>>62155413
So the consensus is that it does not really affect overclocking RAM+CPU in most cases?

If anyone is interested here is the RAM I'm thinking of purchasing: F4-3200C14D-16GFX

>tfw my memory finally arrived
Now I can get building, nice >:]

>>62155486
in most cases, no. The B350 can overclock just fine. I'd only consider an X370 for overclocking if you plan to use fucking liquid nitrogen overclocks. Which no one does

>>62155565
Okay thanks man, x370 isn't so expensive but it's still nice to save some quids, especially with ram prices being obnoxious atm

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Thoughts on this? Not quite sure what to get for the motherboard or graphics, just so many options.

>>62155609
>especially with ram prices being obnoxious atm
It's not just ram, but SSD's as well.
There's an industry-wide NAND shortage, despite the factories being at full capacity.
Why? Blame Apple and Samsung. They have new phones coming out soon.

>>62155650
get a PSU with at least 500 watts

>>62155650
Swap the processor for a Ryzen 5 1600.
Motherboard-wise, I'd recommend the MSI B350M Mortar and MSI B350M Mortar Arctic (same thing as the regular Mortar, but it's white). Easily the best mATX B350 boards at the moment.

>>62155672
How so? The build consumes less than 100 Watts at the moment. Sure, the graphics and motherboard still have to go in but, they won<t guzzle that much, surely?

Some anon said too much power is useless up here >>62155449
, I would tend to agree.

>>62155716
hamstrings you with upgrades later
500 watts is stupid cheap, just make the jump now

>>62155716
>>62155734
also, that PSU isn't even 80+ Bronze
you should always get at least Bronze for the extra efficiency

>>62155734
Hmmm, good point. Wasn't thinking about that possibility.

>>62155734
>>62155751
>>62155756
you literally can't go wrong with this one on a basic build:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze

>>62155650
Do get a 1600 and any B350 mobo from a good brand.
GPU depends on what you're going to do with it. Games? What resolution and refresh rate?

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>>62155734
>>62155751
>>62155756
>>62155814
>>62155863

Now with updated input. Picked a GPU as well based on OP's post. Thoughts?

>>62156024
you completly ignored >>62155682

How do you feel about this?

>>62156062
What do you mean ignored? I swapped the R5 1500X for a R5 1600X, as suggested and I took his motherboard suggestion, as well with a MSI B350M.

>>62156024
Don't skimp on the case. You don't need a sound card. Avoid using wifi.

>>62156141
Why aboid using wifi

>>62156140
The 1600 comes with a good cooler, the 1600X doesn't come with one. And they perform the same after OC.

>>62156140
How do you feel knowing you just cucked this cute anon poster? >>62155682

>>62156171
Ah, ok. Yeah I had noticed that the 1600X had no cooler. I assumed it was also the case for the 1600. Thanks.
>>62156141
Why no sound card? Motherboard does it?
Yeah, I tossed wifi in because I wasn't sure if I could get a cable to the computer considering how things are wired. Anyways, the motherboard comes with network connection so no need for a network card I guess.
Why not skimp on the case? Seems just like a steel box to me.

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Ok, so now after some refinement, looks like this. Not sure about the case as anon said the onw I chose was shit and its' reviews also said it is crap.
>>62155682
Thanks for the suggestions.
>>62156171
Thanks for pointing out the cooler.

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>just get the RX 480 anon
>nvidia has less VRAM so they won't last as long anon
>you can't trust the 3.5 GB scammers anon
Why come 4(3.5) of last generation > 8(8) of this generation in a DX12 geimu?

>>62156463
>Gimpworks
Shoo, Jew.

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Behold my masterPC.

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>>62156618
>5x 5.25 bays

>>62156463
Nvidia worked with Bungie so you know they either didn't give a shit at all about AMD or intentionally gimped it.

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>>62155372
>>62155449
Is this better?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7JqvV

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>>62156893
>Toshiba hard drive

>>62156929
your so hot when you slap me.

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>>62156929
Is this finally good enough to get the /g/ seal of approval™?

>>62157065
get faster ram at least 3000 at that price range, check qvl list

unsure about case
the powersupply might be overkill a 750 gold would be more than enough from EVGA G2, G3 or another Seasonic PSU

And I am assuming you can't ethernet cable.

>>62156893
>>62157065
The PSU is beyond overkill. You could probably do with a 550, 600, or 650W PSU with Gold rating.
Beyond that, add an SSD. 250GB or 500GB to hold the OS.
Looks good otherwise,

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>>62157124
>>62157133
The wiki says to go several hundred watts over your expected use, and mine is currently at 419. Is it safe to assume it was exaggerating, or that it has a much looser definition of several than mine?
Thanks for being so helpful by the way.

Just a quick question.

Is there a place to find just a part for a case? I would like a case side with a window for my pc, but don't want to replace the whole case.

>>62157254
Now just add an SSD (marked under storage). 250-500GB.
Samsung 850 Evo and Crucial MX300 series are heavily recommended.

Install the OS on the SSD for a much faster user experience.

>>62156929
shitposting retard kys.

>>62157304
Contact the manufacturer of the case.

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Alright, so this is my first time doing this, anything I should change or need?

Have a BD drive already that I'm gonna put in

>>62157571
Ryzen 1600 or just drop all the way down to a G4600.
No need for a 212X with either.
Full tower is shit get a mid.
850w is overkill for your build.

>>62157571
So much needs changing.
Remove the cooler, Intel i3, and the Z270 motherboard.
Get an AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Get an AM4 socket motherboard with a B350 Chipset
Change the ram to 3200 MHz.
Add an SSD. Samsung 850 Evo or Crucial MX300. 250GB or more, to hold the OS
Change the case to something actually good. I'd look at the Zalman Z9 Neo.
The power supply is beyond overkill. 650W with Gold rating would be perfectly fine.

>>62157664
>Add an SSD
Forgot to mention I already have one

What do I do for system cooling or is everything fine with what it already has onboard?

Hey guys. Where can I get an RGB NZXT butt-plug to go with my case and branded CPU cooler?

>>62157694
The Ryzen CPUs come with decent air coolers. You would be able to overclock them to the max, but you can do a really good overclock on them (average on stock cooler is 3.8 Ghz)

>>62157708
>You would be able to overclock them to the max,
*won't be able to

>tfw I got my Vega56 and already sold if for 599
Fucking AMD morons

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Is the 4790K a GOAT CPU for those who don't want to run a botnet OS?

>>62157750
>Fucking moronic miners
FTFY

>>62157812
no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIMd8TUUGg

I know jack shit about building PCs, but I have a background in computer science and electrical engineering. I'm assuming I can learn all the shit I need online, but I'm not sure where to start

Any recommendations for a good deep dive into pc building so I can understand what all you guys are talking about? Gonna build a PC asap with a budget of around $1300-$1500

>>62157856
Based Vishera, people rip on me for building an 8350 for win 7 but I love it.

>>62157877
Read the OP
Go to PCP and draft a list
Post list here
Tell us your budget and what is the purpose of your build (gaymen, etc)

It is that simple

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>>62157632
>>62157664
>>62157708
Alright, how's this?

Guess I forgot to mention this is gonna be a gayman computer, if it wasn't obvious

>>62157910
Thanks for the advice. I've already read the OP but am looking for something more like how to compare the various statistics and whatnot. Like how to compare two equivalently priced CPUs and all that

>>62157947
At that price consider the S340 or the P400S casing. The rest looks good.

>>62157990
Eh, would like to have a disc drive on it

>>62157979
>Like how to compare two equivalently priced CPUs and all that
You can ask us. Thankfully at this time the AMD CPUs are trashing the intel ones so you will get good answers vs people shitposting their brands (minus i7-7700k).

Otherwise, read reviews, google benchmarks and compare.

>>62158011
How often do you actually use the disc drive?
Otherwise 200R is pretty good

>>62158034
Often enough, plus it's nice to have imo

>>62157947
change the motherboard. an mATX board in an ATX case like that will look odd... unless you like the look of empty space. Either way, the Asus Prime B350M-A/CSM isn't a good choice. B350 boards support overclocking, so you want a board with good VRMs.
Here's a list of recommended ATX B350 boards:
Asus Prime B350 Plus
Asus B350-F Strix
MSI B350 PC Mate
MSI B350 Tomahawk (same thing as PC mate but with more gaming-oriented features)
MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic (same thing as a normal Tomahawk, but white)
MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon
Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3
Asrock AB350 Pro 4
Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4

>>62158049
Can't recall the last time I used a disc drive but fair play otherwise. Look at the 200R or the 300R. Both are pretty solid and good.

>>62158055
>>62158066
Switched to the 200R and B350 Tomahawk

Anything else to keep in mind?

>>62158034
The Zalman Z9 Neo is the best case at that price point with optical drive bays.
It comes with support for radiators, a PSU shroud, SSD mounts to show them off, rubber grommets and looks decent.
As a bonus, it comes in white or black, and comes with 5 fans, although 4 of them are trash and should be replaced anyways.
Good value case to be honest.

>>62158100
Oh, built in fans is a good bonus, yeah, should probably go for the Zalman then

VEGA STOCK WHEN?

>>62158160
LOL

are new athlons better than pentiums for povertyfags?

>>62158399
Better upgrade path.
Worse everything else.

>>62158399
I'd get an FX if you're a poverty stricken enthusast.

>>62158438
enthusiast*

>>62158421
all good then, upgrade path is the only thing that matters for me