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Now that the dust has settled, is Adnauseum a scam or not?

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Now that the dust has settled, is Adnauseum a scam or not?
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if advertisers are making money anyway, what's the point?
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>>62144226
>clicking ads for google for free

where can I submit my site to adnauseam devs so I get som free adsense clicks??

also, how is this supposed to hurt google? it will make them even richer..
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>>62144258
>when your IQ is below 110
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>>62144258
this. How do i make the worst possible tracking ads for free money?
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It breaks advertising and tracking by flooding false positive data into your tracking profile. Just imagine if you shared your various accounts with 50 other people. This is that. The signal to noise ratio is completely ruined.
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Is it compatible with pihole, privacy badger, umatrix, noscipt, etc?
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>>62144226
most of my ads so far have been from duckduckgo.
>the browser that doesn't track you
lmao
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it doesn't block as many ads as uBlock, despite being subscribed to the same lists, and I don't know why
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>>62144258
>Can't look three steps ahead
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>>62144229
The metric they use for measuring work, clicks, becomes useless. Long term this destroys trust in advertisers because the compensation they ask is not correlated with exposure they bring to your product. Losing customers does mean death for advertisers.
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>>62144342
How did you measure that? Did you actually compare them on the same website with the same lists and clicking disabled?
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Wouldn't it raise ad prices
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You're helping google, and sperg nausspasm in the short, and long term. The only people that lose are the poor saps who installed this crap to make everyone else rich without any reward.
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>>62144226
How long until we see one of these guys take a fall?

They were started on /pol/ in a discord and there has to be agents there, I give them 2 weeks to a month to really rack the charges up.
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>>62144590
Not if for every twenty clicks, only one is from someone that's actually interested in the product.
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>>62144590
It will certainly affect a lot of things, but in the long term, everyone will hit on Google, because they're the ones targetted, and they're the ones that brought this on themselves.
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the makers look jewish and have jewish sounding last names
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>>62144608
There's no difference between hiring pajeets to click a million ads and this.
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>>62144666
Okay Satan I will keep that in mind
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>>62144693
Except you don't have to hire pajeets, you just upload your mining code and get anons to run it for free.
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What's the legality of this? To me, it should be fine, but I can't see them allowing this to continue.
I racked up a $160 bill in around 6hrs only.
>cnn.com
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>>62144325
No
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Why don't the ads from this site show up in the vault?
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>>62144834
They do
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>>62144226
It's a mossad front.
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>>62144834
non-tracking ads might be turned off for you?
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>>62144313
what if you never click ads unless by accident... because I doubt someone actually does
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>>62144226
I WOULD use it if
>it was compatible with uMatrix and noscript
>it didn't send my browsing habitats to companies via clicked ads
>it wouldn't have an ugly UI and colour scheme that looks like it was designed by a /v/ user (srsly what's wrong with minimalism)
>it didn't waste my disk space by LITERALLY DOWNLOADING the ads to my pc, pic related
>it wasn't run by literal jews
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>>62145026
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We're fucking over Google by making clicks worthless and untrustworthy. It's not meant to starve the beast, it's meant to shove big macs down its throat until it's heart explodes. Jesus fuck I can't believe people are falling for Google shills
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>>62145034
Meant to reply to OP?
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>>62145055
It is meant to starve, by undermining its ability to evaluate ad traffic. Starving happens when clients turn away from the service. I'd love to see you describe a scenario when something explodes.
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>>62145074
You get the point. You can't build an accurate profile on someone if they click EVERYTHING. Google and advertisers want to tailor ads and build profiles on people to sell.
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>>62145113
I posted the point, I do get it, yes. Heart explodes is not a word that describes it in any way. Starve describes it pretty well because in case it succeeds this is how the advertiser will die. Slowly losing customers over large time period. Instead of becoming gigantic over small period and then quickly disappearing, as with explosion.
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>>62145026
>it was compatible with uMatrix and noscript
It clicks shit instead of blocking it, what did you expect?
>it didn't send my browsing habitats to companies via clicked ads
That's the whole fucking point.
>it wouldn't have an ugly UI and colour scheme that looks like it was designed by a /v/ user (srsly what's wrong with minimalism)
It uses 90% of the same UI as ublock origin, and it's just supposed to work, you're not supposed to look at the UI all the fucking time.
>it didn't waste my disk space by LITERALLY DOWNLOADING the ads to my pc, pic related
Oy vey!
>it wasn't run by literal jews
Says who?
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>>62145135
Woah could u use less vulgar language, you seem like you're having an outburst
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>>62145064
no, the person who i replied has jewish ads in his image, i suppose that it is his own
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>>62145154
Well kek, it's literally the one from their own webpage
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>>62145026
>google
>adblock plus
it's better than what you had before
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>>62145135
>It clicks shit instead of blocking it, what did you expect?
I would prefer for it to do all its work in a separate invisible page, simulating actual clicks with simulated mouse; I'd use my usual blocking extensions on the page I'm seeing completely independent of what adnauseum is doing.
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>>62144226
why should i use it
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>>62145168
Cpu hog of color
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>>62145190
Yes, but it's a noble cause.
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>>62145135
>It clicks shit instead of blocking it, what did you expect?
Expected to be compatible with similiar addons
>That's the whole fucking point.
I'd rather fuck over the advertisers in a way that respects my privacy
>It uses 90% of the same UI as ublock origin, and it's just supposed to work, you're not supposed to look at the UI all the fucking time.
The bright purple frontend causes eye strain for me
>Oy vey!
Yeah, in the screencap from their own homepage half of the ads are in hebrew, it already says something
>Says who?
Look above
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getting tired of seeing these malware shill posts everywhere

just quit it alright?
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>>62145210
>Yeah, in the screencap from their own homepage half of the ads are in hebrew, it already says something
Israelis are far less liberal than US Jews for example.
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>>62145246
What makes you think this software is malware?
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>>62144226
It's a stupid idea. Why don't we just continue letting normies pay for our adblocked internet experience by watching their ads?
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>>62145503
Good ideal, but id rather get rid of ads
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>>62144613
>They were started on /pol/ in a discord
Proof?
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>>62145618
I'd rather get rid of Google.
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>>62145751
We just have to build something better.
Google translate has already been BTFO
>https://www.deepl.com/translator
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>>62144226
It's the best fucking thing ever. My wife thinks I take viagra because I finally have erections, but it's only because I watch how much money I make those cunt lose.

Respect my "DO NOT TRACK" request, you cunts!
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It's making google really mad and news websites don't even dare to bring up its name to give it more downloads. So then I don't care if it botnets, tracks or drains preformance.
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>>62144226
It got banned by Chrome and even the cunt at PaleMoon (dead in my book now btw, Brave all the way), it means it's working.

We all do tech support for our families and friend, right?
Well next time you handle their computer/browser, instead of installing uBlock, install AdNauseam.
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>>62145503
This, adblocking is a sweet deal when there's a minority of people doing it. Normalfags still see their ads and give the publishers money, so people can adblock without consequence. By getting rid of ads altogether all you're doing is making it so you'll have to pay a subscription to use every single site you use, there's no way to offload that to the normalfags.

I always shill against adblocking to normalfags because I don't want adblockers to become so popular that ads stop being a good way to run a free service, that goes against my interests.
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>>62144815
To my knowledge, there is no law against it, if you hosted your own site and was clicking your own ads to gain revenue that would be considered ad-fraud but this has no law against it. I suspect tech giants are in the process of secretly lobbying the government for a new law, so attack them now.
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>>62144226
Never even heard of it until the pale meme thing. I don't even click on ads in the first place so why would I want something to click on them for me?
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>>62145939
>I don't even click on ads in the first place so why would I want something to click on them for me?
Because by generating false and omnipresent adclicks, you mess with their statistics and data, and Google/Advertisers have to reimburse the website.

Hurt they wallet.
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>>62145895
>I suspect tech giants are in the process of secretly lobbying the government
Which government?
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This would only theoretically work if 90% of the web users used it for a prolonged period of time.

But since it's a very minority that is using it, it's accomplishing exactly the opposite. The ad people are making more money and you lose by clicking the ads.
You have to be an idiot to use this, since the majority will never start using it.
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>>62145971
>But since it's a very minority that is using it, it's accomplishing exactly the opposite
Wrong.
They see a drastic increase of adclicks, but a decrease of further page clicking, products buying, etc.

And the flood is detected as "ad fraud" by google and they have to reimburse the website.

Already happened.
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>>62145960
The government of the country which hosts the servers that distribute the extension, and those who contribute to making and updating the extention.
Google is losing billions due to this, they're going to get serious. If this was a Hollywood movie they'd be hiring hitmen.
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wait it is not compatible with ublock, disconnect etc?
I have a very high IQ so I can not understand such a triviel problem. can someone explain it to me please?
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>>62146176
>ublock
I mean to say umatrix. of course it doesn't work with ublock.
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>>62146159
>The government of the country which hosts the servers that distribute the extension, and those who contribute to making and updating the extention.
So every the governments of every single country in the world? That's the beauty of open source.

>Google is losing billions due to this
Where are you getting that 'number' from. I doubt there are more than 5000 people using this. That's nothing.
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>AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad
So what's the point of blocking them???
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>>62145879
This
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Literal memeware.
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>>62146294
>Literal memeware.
t. Google shill
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>Where are you getting that 'number' from. I doubt there are more than 5000 people using this. That's nothing.
6.5 bil according to http://www.businessinsider.com/

>So every government of every single country in the world? That's the beauty of open source.
For now, they'll attack the large hosters of it like GitHub with is centred in America. Of course, once something is on the internet it says there but they'll remove it from the obvious places.
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>>62146304
>>62146224
meant for
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>>62146301
If you think Google is not capable of mitigating this memeware extension you're just dumb. Advertisers are not losing money and Google isn't going to let a bunch of autistic fucks cost them substantial revenue. Of course, substantial to Google is enormous, so maybe they'll just ignore it and let you believe you're winning.
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>>62145879
And Google shills are saying Firefox is a Soros front because thats where the majority of addon downloads are coming from
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>>62146304
>he seriously believes there are 6.5 billion installs of this garbage
top fucking jej.
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>>62146339
>If you think Google is not capable of mitigating this memeware extension you're just dumb
They're not. They're going out of their way to ban it.
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>>62146339
>Advertisers are not losing money
Yes they are, because they have to reimburse the fake clicks, and they cannot identify them.

>Google isn't going to let a bunch of autistic fucks cost them substantial revenue.
Won't prevent me from trying. It works up to now.
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>>62146343
Google and Firefox are BOTH corrupt.
Not by the exact same strain of cancer, but they both are.

That's why everybody is migrating to Brave.
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>>62146339
Reminder, posts like these are sponsored by google.
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>>62144226
Imagine marketing this to normalfag as a way to help your favorite websites without doing anything because it click the adds for you.
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>>62146479
It will hurt your favorite website, I like this extension but DISABLE IT ON 4CHAN. Advertisers will leave as there's going to be a sudden spike in clicks which will indicate ad-fraud.
This warning should be placed in the OP. DONT ADNAUSEAM ADS ON 4CHAN.
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>>62146508
4chan is supported by federal agencies, this is a honeypot too valuable to forego. Don't worry this isn't going anywhere.
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>>62146518
after /pol/ made the deep state their bitch by getting Trump elected, I doubt it.
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>>62146518
>4chan is supported by federal agencies, this is a honeypot too valuable to forego
I wonder how true this is.
With all the shit that happened, I'm surprised it hasn't been closed 10 times.

Or at least blocked in Germany, I don't know.
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>>62146508
Yeah that's the idea, make facebook and other shitholes bleed while the userbase cheer and believe they're helping.
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>>62146508
>DONT ADNAUSEAM ADS ON 4CHAN.
If the ads respect the "do not track" request, they have nothing to fear.

Oh wait, they don't?

Fuck them.
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>>62144226
Well, let's just keep in mind that clicks are not the only way of getting money. If the are getting revenue based on registration or sales done from the ad, well that's another thing.
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>>62146508
>implying I don't block ads on 4chan in the first place
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>>62145134
okay
then it's the donkey with two piles of food metaphor
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>>62146606
blocking is fine but this shit will make them leave completely.
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>>62146626
>blocking is fine but this shit will make them leave completely.
Or respect the "do not track" request.
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>>62146339
>If you think Google is not capable of mitigating this memeware extension you're just dumb.

I'm the kind of dumb that Google hires for big money. Here's how to fuck with Google:
>delay clicks after page loading, from seconds to hours
>simulate mouse movements
>hover some links without clicking them
>don't just send GET requests but actually load the pages, and repeat the process on some levels

There we go. I don't know how far AdNauseam goes after clicking the links into loading the result, probably not very far, but it's the biggest evolution to make to fuck up with Google big time.

Next step would be to automate Google searches with ad words, and added random words, as queries.
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>>62146537
This and This
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>>62146745
>delay clicks after page loading
Ad Nauseam already does that.
>simulate mouse movements
You are on the page, so you will move the mouse anyway.
>hover some links without clicking them
The links respecting the "do not track" will be inspected but not clicked
>don't just send GET requests but actually load the pages
I don't know about that.

>Next step would be to automate Google searches with ad words
http://makeinternetnoise.com/
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>>62144229
Think long term
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>>62146798
>Ad Nauseam already does that.
Been searching for that in sauce code without success. Do you have any fact to back that up?
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>>62146826
>Been searching for that in sauce code without success. Do you have any fact to back that up?
When you use it, the Interface shows that it looks at ads one by one, slowly, taking up to 10 seconds by ads.
I haven't looked at the code tho.
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>>62146339
>If you think Google is not capable of mitigating this memeware extension you're just dumb.

Of course they're capable, that's why we need to hit them as much as possible while we still can.
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>>62144226

Why adblocking threads always turn in intense debate about ethics? Everybody here are CEOs of ad networks?
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>>62145893

>By getting rid of ads altogether all you're doing is making it so you'll have to pay a subscription to use every single site you use, there's no way to offload that to the normalfags.

The "need subscription for every site" argument is really popular here, but subscriptions and paywall dont work, the same people that complain about adblocking since 2010 never installed subscription/paywall in his sites because is a suicide.
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Shouldn't a very efficient method be to make a distributed ad clicking bot? Literal counter botnet that uses torrent-like p2p network to distribute ad links and have others click for you?
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>>62144226

Advertisers destroyed the Internet. Let them burn.
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>>62144226

advertisers made modern internet free-gratis. Remember the old days of American Online, Compuserve and GEnie when need pay $10.00 USD of base fee and 5$ of access to vbulletion forums? 4chan is free thanks of ads.
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>>62144226
>>62144226
>>62144226
>>62144226

made by israelis.

adnauseum was made to fuck with companies that benefits from ad services, one such example is google

what is israel's agenda? aren't they the bad guys
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>>62149514
Picking up the old jew meme: even jews hate jews.
Seriously though, it doesn't matter where you're from to hate all the advertising madness on the internet. Doing something that makes the whole concept of automated or targeted advertising unviable is always a good thing.

I'd rather pay for the services I really care for (subscribed to the local news site for example).
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>>62149933
How the fuck is Google Jewish if their CEO has always been a Pajeet?
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AdNauseam doesn't record nearly as many ads as uBlockOrigin. I've read former was based on the latter, so what gives? I was trying to visit a bunch of sites, but I found only a handful of ads, after turning off Adblock Plus and uBlock Origin both.

I do notice how I haven't seen any ads pop up though. Are they simply blocked, or does the thing just not show what's been recorded and clicked?
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>>62145791
>Google translate has already been BTFO
>only 7 languages
>no japanese
It doesn't even target the same audience.
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The good thing about all this is ad companies creating clickfraud countermeasures for malware like adnauseam. Comsumers win again.
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>>62150171
So what if adnauseam skims a few ads for themselves. Quit being so fucking greedy and paranoid. The devs need to eat too. In the long run the internet will be a better place.
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>>62150292
If it's just a matter of time, that's cool. I was just not sure if this was a feature or simply something that's still being worked on. If it's the latter, I'll stay tuned for updates!
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>>62144342
Go to the options and uncheck "allow ads that don't track" or something to that effect.
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>>62144258
This. Faggots who are arguing "long term effects" or some shit like that fail to grasp the even bigger picture they claim to see clearly:

Google will do one of two things: figure out a way to detect these false ad clicks and discard most of them when tallying up what to charge the advertisers, or just spin the numbers in such a way as to rake in all the sheckels anyway.

It's fun to believe we are the mentally superior cyber-guerillas going after The Mega-Corporate Machine, but the truth is you've got to give them at least a little credit for what they've built so far, and their capabilities to protect it.

In short: Google isn't dumb. Don't underestimate your opponent.
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>>62150372
anoon am i dumb?
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>>62150372
But pol is too stupid let them continue to click all ads get degenerate ad profile, and feel like they are winning
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>>62145024
Google tracks your searches and conversations and shows you adds related to that.
This fucks it up
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>>62146525
Trump is israel's bitch, he is one of the biggest zionists in presidency to date.
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>>62150466
No one cares, mudman
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>>62145846
no mercy
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or just use ublock origin
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>>62145971
i clicked over 1000 ads in the last 5 hours, you dont need an army to mess with them
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Why would I choose an adblock program that secretly loads in ads to click on them for you instead of a regular one that doesn't click on any ads? I'm not giving them any info either way so what's the point?
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>>62145879
This anon gets it. Google banning it should tell you all you need to know.
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>>62149455
they use ads because no one was paying sub, you think they did it because they care about goyim?
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>>62144313
There are things I only search for at work with 100 people going through the same proxy.
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>>62151624
So that you fuck Google in the process
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Legit question.. Is this malware, or not?
I'm getting a lot of conflicting views, from a lurking perspective.
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>>62151897
no, you have source code and you know how it works, noone was banned because of it yet. it makes google mad and i like it
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>>62149455
>advertisers made modern internet free-gratis
Wrong.
Increased scaling of the internet made itself free.
And that image is incredibly fucking misleading, those services provided by your ISP were for idiots who couldnt navigate the internet by themselves.
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>>62151897
How can a free program be malware? You are free to inspect the source and modify it. It doesn't do anything secretly or hide anything it does. Anyone claiming it's malware is a braindead idiot who doesn't know the meaning of words he uses.
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>>62150372
>just spin the numbers in such a way as to rake in all the sheckels anyway.
this.

Twitter literally doesn't make money. It's all fraud. They profit anyway.

the rules are different. google isn't like a mom and pop business. they print money.
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>>62151960
>>62152191
Then what's this about the PaleMoon devs, declaring it malware?
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>>62152214
>Adnauseum will be responsible for the downfall of Twitter, and Tumblr culture.

>hipster/barista/liberal blogsites gone
>leftist clickbate media/news sites

I'm all in!!!
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this shit really rustled a lot of jimmies
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>manually installing malware
Sorry, I'm not a rural or suburban retard. Good luck.
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>>62152530
t.moonchild
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>>62152245
I just told you: they're braindead idiots
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It's a good cause and a good "fuck you" message but, honestly, I think it's not a big deal for ad companies.
There are companies literally dedicating their existence to generating fake clicks/impressions to get money. Any decent ad network is very good at detecting fake clicks.

I'd rather invest my time and will into creating alternatives to current state of things, something to replace google, not simply kill it. It's not like fucking up your website with ads to the point of unusability is the only approach to monetization, there should be something different that people would use (no, voluntary donations don't work unless you're a wikipedia).
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>>62145893
Good. The internet belongs to hobbyists.
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>>62152821
>Any decent ad network is very good at detecting fake clicks.
Truth is, they aren't. But they don't really care either. As long as all ad networks suck at fake clicks detection, ad buyers will have to pay for the fake clicks if they want the real ones. This is online ad's dirty little secret.
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Can I set this up to purely block and fake-click Google ads?
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>>62146356
$6.5
not almost the entire population of the planet, you should learn to read before posting.
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>>62144226
I don't know if it's effective, and I don't know if it caused the problem or is it just correlation, but it slowed my browser to 56k age speed.
like 20 seconds to load a page (bottlenecked by the processor, not the connection)
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>>62152923
Good point. I wouldn't rely on it too much, though, you won't ever notice if they improve (and they will if it will become an existential threat) and it's a lost war after that.

I have an idea.
Do site owners get a lot of revenue from one page load by average user? How much should each person pay, instead of watching ads, for the site to get the same revenue? I have a feeling that, on average, it will sum to literally few dollars per month of daily browsing.
We can get current website revenue data and propose users to pay just what site owner expects to earn. You have an ad-replacement wallet, you'll put a few bucks there, you pay $0.000000000628 or something for each page load and will see no ads. Should be absolutely ethical, easy to implement and use for all parties, totally affordable and transparent for end users.
Also, frequent users will be able to give the site more money in an easy way if they desire, with ads you have to either get buttfucked by paypal or whatever the site uses for donations or click on ads, risking your sanity and site rating in ad network.
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