since firefox has gone to shit recently, what browser should

>>62128580
brave

>>62128580
Firefox is still the best.

Just use a fork that isnt pozzed

Icecat or Waterfox

>>62128580
Anything but chromium-based shit.

>>62128619
this

>>62128580
Icecat

>>62128580
>recently

It has been shit for years desu, the same slow sluggish browser no matter what shills say, and I only tolerated it because I liked its dev tools.

I use Vivaldi nowadays, it's alright, but I'm open to alternatives, basically anything that isn't built on top of Firefox slowness like Gecko/SpiderMonkey/XUL.

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Why do you say that anon?
Everything works smoothly and it is even faster since they released 57. All of my addons are working as they should. I have already replaced legacy addons with the alternate and opensource webext ones.

Firefox was never running so slowly and buggy as
now. Did it only happen to me?

>>62128580
don't change something because it's the current fad to do so. firefox is fine but use whatever the FUCK you want.

>>62128580
firefox nightly.

It is faster than chrome

>>62128580
Nightly is fine. Use a privacy-focused about:config and disable all the bullshit, then you're good. There are alternatives for every non-webext as well. Yeah, the company is a bunch of dirty SJWs who have their head in the completely wrong place about something, but it's still a competitive browser.

If you must, switch to Icecat if you're on Linux. QupZilla is also fine. If you don't care about add-ons there's also things like qute browser or Dooble, and if you feel like going out of the way for a botnet-less Chrome you can install the necessary patch-sets to do so, or place your trust in Iridium / Ungoogled Chromium. Plenty of options.

Brave, Pale Moon, and Waterfox are memes.

I just tried nightly and it's slow compared to brave, I want a browser with the addons of firefox or chrome that is fast.

>>62128802
Try enabling servo rendering in about:config

>>62128580
How many times now have Firefox gone to shit in the past decade? I honestly lost count

>>62128580
Iridium

>>62128580
Otter Browser

>>62128580
IceCat is alright
Pale Moon but that could go south pretty fast all things considered
Waterfox is alright? I've seen conflicting things said about it here
SeaMonkey if that's still usable
Qupzilla maybe?
Ungoogled Chromium seems alright
Iridium seems alright
That's about it I think.

>>62128802
Well, at least it doesn't have millions of bugs like Brave does. I couldn't use it for more than an hour and had to kill it five times in that one hour.

>>62128820
bit faster, I installed palemoon now and it blows the fuck out of firefox nightly with servo rendering
I'm testing this on a 6 year old pc

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>>62128580
>has gone to shit recently

>>62128580
>firefox has gone to shit recently
What are you talking about. It gets better and better.

>>62128696
Try refreshing your profile. Go to about:support and click on the "Refresh Firefox..." button.

>>62128949

I just installed Waterfox. Holy fucking shit, Facebook has never been so smooth. (Will kill myself for being a normie later. Sry senpai)

>>62128580
Vivaldi with uBlock Origin and Session Buddy.

Some guy last thread complained that he couldn't switch tabs by scrolling, but that's right under the tabs settings.

I am still using Nightly 56. Why would I bother to upgrade?

>recently
FF hasn't been good since 3.5

>>62128580
Use Firefox or Firefox nightly.

>>62128651
>>62129669
t. idiots who installed 32bit version

>>62129893
t. cuck

>>62128580
>since firefox has gone to shit recently
it has done the exact opposite though. I switched from chrome to nightly

Why do you all think Firefox has gone to shit? It seems fine to me

Use Brave.

>>62128672
what's the replacement for dta?

I'm using Cyberfox but I'm a bit sad because my favorite addon for it ceased development about a week ago. The All in One Sidebar for Firefox will probably break whenever they roll out their overhaul of the addon system to be web addons.

>>62130359
none. Just use the default downloader or wget.

>>62128672
how did you get ublock ?
im on 57.0a1 on mac and its not comaptible

GNU IceCat m8

>>62130991
check github for instructions

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>>62130991
That is why people should stop advertising Nightly to just about everyone.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/versions/beta
Read what it actually says. You first need to install a hybrid-version in order to keep your current settings.

>>62131094
>in order to keep your current settings
>custom settings
Which almost nobody has. Just install the addon normally and spend less than a minute modifying it to how it was.

Just give in to the botnet. I did and I'm better off for it.

>>62128580
It's still good and it's way faster now. Stop being a crybaby OP.

>>62130991
see
>>62131043

is waterfox a meme or not

>>62128580
None. It's time to quit the Internet. It's the perfect opportunity to learn and adapt to life without Internet like our forefathers did.

>>62131035
upvote

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>>62128580
>inb4 brave
Thanks for the false positive
Please try to not use the no no word.

Legit question about Brave:
Can you install addons such as ublock, or a post-load JS runner like GreaseMonkey?

>>62134292
No

>>62128580
Firefox is getting better des.

>>62134428
>>>62128580 (OP)
>Firefox is getting better des.
DES is dedicated

>>62134465
*desu

I switched to Nightly from PaleMoon recently, and I haven't looked back.

I don't use anything other than Ublock and Stylus so it wasn't even a second thought.

The performance gained was a major bonus.

>>62134690
except palemoon is maintained by a furry who blocked adnauseum

>>62128672
>botnetwarden
>not using last pass

>>62128619
>Firefox is still the best.
I wish it was, but it keeps deleting all my tabs, and I find data loss to be completely unacceptable. I've had to switch primary browsers to Vivaldi. It seems to provide the most similar functionality to Firefox with a few tweaks.

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>>62134748
>vivaldi
>proprietary software

Also I suggest you try updating your FireFox because I haven't had that issue.

If you enable sync you can have over 500+ tabs enabled across mobile and desktop

>>62134731
>online password management
what a retard

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>>62134690
How do you get uBlock to work on nightly?

I wanna give nightly a spin but there's no way I'm using it if I can't use uBlock or noScript.

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>>62134771
>>62134731

opera has been the only real choice ever

>>62134799
Opera sold it's soul to the chinks

>>62128580
Waterfox feels like the same shit, it even imports all your bookmarks and add-ons automatically. Pale Moon isn't bad either, though.

>>62134789
Check uBlock's github for the webext version and instructions on how to install it

>>62134789
Read notes if you want to transfer data from the older version.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/versions/beta

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>>62128580
<-

>>62134837
>>62134789
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases

firefox 55.0.3 just marked all of my addons as 'legacy'
what the fuck should i do?

>>62134789
stylus is the webext fork of stylish

>>62134876
click alternatives or find a webext version

>>62134876
you got till novemeber for the devs to update or find alternatives

legacy just means you cant enable multiprocessingwhile they are in use

>>62134876
Install Otter Browser

>>62134926
all of them were disabled, including uBlock

>>62134817
And the rest are CIA botnets, at least since I don't live in China they'll never bother me.

>>62134939
while it is GPL3 its development is very slow
>last updated 7 months ago

HURR DURR USE FF ITS STILL THE BEST

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/

THEY EVEN SAY WHAT I CAN LOOK AT AND NOT LOOK AT.

IT WAS JUST A COINCIDENCE THEY ANNOUNCED THIS THE SAME DAY AS SOROS FUNDED COMPANIES STARTED THEIR WAR. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

Fuck you idiots.

>>62134748
>Not bookmarking all your tabs as a backup

>>62128672
shut up, shill

>>62135540
>THEY EVEN SAY WHAT I CAN LOOK AT AND NOT LOOK AT.
Nice reading comprehension you got there. No, they don't say what you can or can't look at.

waterfox is the new firefox that doesn't suck
palememe is shit and run by a moralist furry
brave is a crypto scam that wants to replace website ads with ads that pay brave
ungoogled chromium is alright

>>62135676
Because combating "misinformation" is way different right?

Some super defined lines there. No bad path to be seen here.

>>62128604
stop astroturfing brendan

>>62135740
>Because combating "misinformation" is way different right?
Yes. And they are giving a few concrete examples what that entails. Telling their users what is and is not true is not among them.

>>62134731
It's open soros
>>62135652
:^)

>>62128580
>firefox has been getting major improvements lately
>marketshare currently at the highest point since 2014 and rising
>mozilla is planning a large advertising campaign for the release of Firefox 57
>servo is still in development and already trashes every other browser in terms of performance
>only a matter of time before servo is completely integrated into firefox
>google is so afraid that they are sending anti-shills to make threads on /g/
when were you when mozilla is win?

>>62135723
Ungoogled Chromium = Iridium?

>>62134292
You don't need uBlock. It blocks ads out of the box.

>>62128672
As a heads up, HTTPS everywhere has a WebExtension compatible version in beta:

https://www.eff.org/files/https-everywhere-test/index.html

There are a lot of sites that Smart HTTPS doesn't catch but Everywhere does.

>>62137085
>you don't need ublock, it replaces ads with ads

>>62137007
No.
This page keeps mostly up to date information.
https://chromium.woolyss.com/#chromium-forks

Essentially ungoogled chromium is a set of patches you can apply that mostly redirect google traffic to a fake impossible url.

>>62136988
Pretty sure they're at like their lowest market share ever. Fuck those faggots

>>62137098
It doesn't though. It blocks ads.

>>62137148
>easily verifiable information
>uh no it's actually the opposite durr
I hope you're just pretending.

>>62128580
Seriously what's wrong with it?

>>62137105
Why would you do this if Iridium exists?

>>62137185
I don't.
I build google botnet infested latest source with widevine, webrtc, and sync disabled.
I used ungoogled patches (that also borrow patches from Iridium) in the past, but it's mostly just an annoyance.
I wish a lot of the "protective features" like the difficulty of installing nonsigned apps from unknown sources was dead simple like it used to be.

>>62135723
>ungoogled chromium is alright
Literally placebo.

>>62128619
This. Also, Brave.

>>62137297
Trust me, when you start using un-googled chromium and try to install ublock origin, you quickly realize how much you rely on the chrome store to keep your "apps" up to date for you vs with un-googled chromium where you unpack the latest zip file on your hard drive and load the "app" in developer mode.
Or just defeat some of the purpose of using un-googled chromium and use a jscript to load the "app" from google's store.

>>62134748
>Vivaldi
kek, I bet you use duckduckgo as well.

>>62137372
What's wrong with DDG?

>>62137372
Why use a full web search engine at all?
Do you not know how to navigate the internet yet?

>>62137358
>Trust me, when you start using un-googled chromium and try to install ublock origin, you quickly realize how much you rely on the chrome store to keep your "apps" up to date for you vs with un-googled chromium where you unpack the latest zip file on your hard drive and load the "app" in developer mode.
>Or just defeat some of the purpose of using un-googled chromium and use a jscript to load the "app" from google's store.
???

>Download the app using a script
>Download the app
>Somehow different

>>62137385
>duckduckgo.com

>A mysterious startup appears out of the blue...
>A duck in a bowtie, run by a Jew.

>He promises privacy, to respect your space.
>But did you take note of the methods in place?

>A company US, your privacy sworn
>In 2010 markets Tor service (for your porn)

>Year later it's mentioned in Time Magazine
>"[it's] like early Google", the author did preen.

>"We do not track you!", the Duck says as you choose...
>Just remember: he's tracking the search terms you use,

>and the location data,
>though not your IP, (wink)

>but they get ads from Bing,
>don't you think that they see?

>Hosting their servers, guess who? Amazon!
>Do you trust their cloud, are you a moron?

>Now there's auto-suggestions.
>Think, how does that work?

>You trust that you're safe?
>I prescribe you more lurk.

>You hopped off of Google, privacy was the plan,
>but you've jumped out of the fire and into the pan.

>>62137416
What do you think I meant by
>defeat some of the purpose of using un-googled chromium

>>62129497
How do you install waterfox? I'm stupid, tried cloning but don't know how to make.

>>62137430
Oh fuck ok, i've been just lurking for a couple of weeks, what's the best search engine that is not gay?

>>62137447
Were the extension updates your main concern? I just couldn't follow your logic from the start.

>>62137488
Startpage or Searx, though the latter is slower.

I think Brave is really great and it'll probably be my main browser as it gets more stable. But I'll admit, Firefox nightly is actually really good.

It does horribly in objective benchmarks, but somehow it subjectively feels really smooth and fast despite that. The new UI is pretty clean and compact too. Throw on uBlock, uMatrix, HTTPS Everywhere, Violentmonkey, and Cookie AutoDelete, and you're good to go.

I like it.

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>>62134926
False

>>62137491
un-googled chromium doesn't contact google servers at all by default.
I was explaining that it's not placebo, it's hard ache to use un-googled chromium.
You as the end user will do more manual work to keep your browser up to date manually and it's extensions up to date manually, if you so choose.

As far as the difference between using a script/automatically installing extensions, it's from google servers vs going to the developers website and downloading the latest packed extension from their server (every time you need to update).

If your objective is for your browser itself to never connect to a google server, then it is not placebo it's actually happening.

>>62137563
>It does horribly in objective benchmarks
Can you refer to some please?

> Icecat is only up to version 38 on windows

>>62137508
>not hosting your own searx instance
I can query 10+ search engines in 0.4 seconds by hosting my own instance.

>>62137613
Well yes, there is that option. I don't do enough searches to justify hosting my own though. Also I prefer startpage anyway.

>>62137672
>I don't do enough searches to justify hosting my own though

It takes less than 5 minutes, anon. Less than a minute if you host it on your own PC, but that kind of defeats the purpose

>>62128580
Chrome

>>62137687
Meh, I might..

>>62137704
This. If you don't log in and turn off all the services it should be alright. I mean 100s of millions of people are using this service and assuming 0.1% is interested in finding a tracking option not listed in the privacy notice they would've found it by now.

>>62128580
Waterfox

>>62128580
Waterfox or Vivaldi.

>>62137763
>>62137777
Now that the 64-bit Firefox is available widely, what is the purpose of Waterfox?

>recently

Opera

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>>62128580
Currently using Nightly because I can't wait for FF 57. Once FF 57 arrives, I'll switch back to stable. Pic very related

Is midori any good

>>62138030
When I was using it, it was unexpectedly closing every now and then. It was about a year ago though.

>>62128651
>>62129052
>>62129669
>>62137847
this, i know it's fashionable with your little activism group now, but if you're only considering changing now of all times, then there won't be a genuine recommendation for you, as you're not switching for genuine reasons

>>62128580
>firefox has gone to shit recently
Explain?

>>62138160
new meme that new frend redditors say currently

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>>62137089
tick these two

>>62138160
GEORGE SOROS

>>62137878
So you'll only really be missing VimFx?
They are making a new api for that.

>>62138445
Nice meme.

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>>62138502
Not really, VimFx was replaced with Vimium. Even the VimFx page lists it as legacy (read "soon to be abandware").

>>62138548
Let's face it though, Vimium is shit, it doesn't work in settings and such and it reimplements the url bar.
I'm using it in Nightly still because it still works. Hopefully they'll get the new api done before it breaks.
The guy who wrote Saka Key asked the VimFx guy to relicense the code to MIT so he could use the hinting code and he did.

>>62137813
Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
Removed Pocket
Removed Telemetry
Removed data collection
Removed startup profiling
Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
Allow running of unsigned extensions
Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
Addition of Duplicate Tab option
Locale selector in about:preferences > General

Surf from suckless.

>>62138623
I haven't had any particular problems with Vimium but I wouldn't consider myself a vimfx poweruser. I just basically do hklj, hinting, opening and closing tabs. Heck I even disable it on YT because I prefer the YT hotkeys. (namely f for fullscreen)

With FF57 Firefox will be crippled.
XUL and XPCOM allowed to extend the browser in very powerful ways.
I don't care about if the browser is slower. The extensions is what kept me using it.
But the WebExtension will bring shitty add-ons like chrome has.
dta, treestyle tabs, scrapbook, menu wizard, eventually noscript and greasemonkey will go away.
I don't know if I'm willing to use alternate browsers with 0.03% market share.

What's the point in turning firefox into a chrome clone? It will only make it easier for the remaining users to switch to chrome.

>>62138827
>With FF57 Firefox will be crippled.
Mmm, no, see >>62137878

>XUL and XPCOM allowed to extend the browser in very powerful ways.
And that's why they're a security liability. Heck, even MS abandoned COM extensions.

>I don't care about if the browser is slower. The extensions is what kept me using it.
Keep using legacy then.

>dta, treestyle tabs, scrapbook, menu wizard, eventually noscript and greasemonkey will go away.
Again, not necessarily, see ViolentMonkey for example

>But the WebExtension will bring shitty add-ons like chrome has.

>I don't know if I'm willing to use alternate browsers with 0.03% market share.
>What's the point in turning firefox into a chrome clone? It will only make it easier for the remaining users to switch to chrome.
>yadda yadda I have uninformed opinions

Solution: Shove three cucumbers tied with a rubber band up your ass.

>>62138901
>Solution: Shove three cucumbers tied with a rubber band up your ass.
Solid argument

>>62128580
Lynx

>>62139000
>picks to argue the solution
>not the points above
It's like you do standardized test at school anon.

>>62139022
I'm not him and Firefox will effectively be a slower Chrome clone after 57. I didn't think people like you still existed that would try and debate this fact.

What are the differences between Chrome and Firefox after 57 is released? Besides features things like Pocket, I don't see any. They're even considering adding Google RAPPOR for telemetry.

>>62139236
Firefox is fully open source and does not datamine you.
Nighty was benchmarked to be faster than chrome.
The better question is why would you use chrome once firefox becomes a better version of it?

>>62139260
Because Mozilla are a bunch of antifa cunts.

>>62139298
Nobody gives a shit. It has absolutely nothing to do with the browser.

>>62139260
>implying I've ever used Chrome
And the fact that Firefox is open source doesn't make it any less of a clone once 57 is rolled out

>>62128672
>reddit
pls

FF55 uBlock suddenly stopped working (need to reinstall it every time I launch FF) so I switched to Chrome. Fuck FF.

Waterfox or Pale Moon, ignore the shills saying that this is autism.

>>62139383
It's still better at blocking ads and telemetry, still an overall better browser and it's not run by a totalitarian corporation.

>>62139236
I always find this hilarious because it's akin to saying that beattle and jeep are the same because they bothy have wheels.

>What are the differences between Chrome and Firefox after 57 is released

They use Gecko instead of Blink for starters -- unlike any other Chromium-based browser -- and Gecko is getting a major overhaul through Servo, an experimental browser written in Rust. Due language features (memory safety and management), they will eliminate a whole vector of attacks, making it effectively more secure than anything written in C/C++.

>Firefox will effectively be a slower Chrome
>[[citation needed]]
As for the speed I'm currently using nightly and feels as *nearly* as fast as Chrome. So from a speed perspective, I think Chrome does have the upper hand, however:
The gap is now so close that I feel is negligible.
This can change as more codebase is migrated from Servo into Gecko.

If anything it goes to show that you guys doesn't (fully) understand the difference between Gecko, XUL and XPCOM. They're all related but are not the same thing.

>>62139362
When they start censoring anti-liberal content straight from the browser (very likely) will you still say you don't care?Firefox is working with george soros to censor the internet. They sold their soul to the devil. They also fired a perfectly good CEO for being a christian. Their politics WILL influence their product. Mark my words.

>>62139444
>Due language features (memory safety and management), they will eliminate a whole vector of attacks
and introduce a whole new set of attacks

>>62139499
>and introduce a whole new set of attacks
[[citation needed]]

>>62139474
>soros meme
That was fake news you idiot. The fact that you fell for it simply enforces my belief that they SHOULD censor fake news sites because of retards like you.
I also don't give a fuck who or what soros is. It's impossible to affect the browser. You obviously don't understand the concept of a fully open source browser. If they add a censorship option you'll be able to remove it fully, just like how waterfox removes Mozilla telemetry from the code.
>sold their soul to devil
>fired a CEO because he's Christian
Here's where I know you're baiting or just terribly misinformed.

>>62139474
quite true but mozilla is dying so any form of censorship will kill them off faster - I can't wait.

>>62128580
Brave if you're not queer or CAF (Child, animal, female)

>>62139508
the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

>>62139436
By limiting plugin functionality and proposing Google RAPPOR botnet telemetry? Now you're just trolling

>>62139444
>speed
Where did I say I cared about speed? If that were a consideration no one would be using Firefox to begin with. I care about avoiding Google, that's all.

>>62139570
Then go and use whatever you want. No one is stopping from switching.

>>62139570
>new things are bad
They needed to make their browser faster and move to a better engine, addons are a necessary sacrifice. And you still have access to almost all of them. What functionality was removed?
>muh telemetry
Firefox has had telemetry for years. Nobody will prevent you from disabling it.

>>62139545
>I also don't give a fuck who or what soros is. It's impossible to affect the browser. You obviously don't understand the concept of a fully open source browser
I assume you have gone through every line of code to make sure?

>>62139569
>He thinks all puddings are self-eating
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S2nuZsBz8g
lolno

>>62139623
Not an argument

Why /g/ don't do their own Search Engine like Fifoxfags did with Netrunner?

>>62139664
Perhaps this is what you're looking for.
>https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

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>>62137581
Firefox Nightly is in the bottom left.

>>62139691
this for image searching is garbage, most of the results only work if you use english

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>>62137581
Firefox Nightly is in the bottom right.

>>62139780
what about normal firefox?

>>62138502
>>62138548
I switched to Vimium too. Sadly it's not as good as VimFx. :( Following links in a new tab doesn't work half the time too.

>>62139260
>Nighty was benchmarked to be faster than chrome.
Source? Everything I've seen is the opposite of that.

>>62139794
>nightly score lower than internet exploder
hahahaha, fucking sjwzilla shills keep getting btfo

>>62139996
>what is servo

>>62139383
>And the fact that Firefox is open source doesn't make it any less of a clone once 57 is rolled out
The fact that it doesn't use Chromium's shitty speshul snowflek font rendering makes it less of a Chromium clone.

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>>62139651

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>>62139655

just made the mistake of updating waterfox and now images won't load, except as thumbnails and inline
help

>>62137385
Privacy concerns.

>>62140010
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=firefox+servo

>>62140333
topest kek

>>62140352
>what does it mean when someone uses greentext

I switched to waterfox. It seems to work fine so far, though appchanx broke but I don't know if that's a greasemonkey, appchanx, or a waterfox problem.

>>62142138
Greasemonkey is ded, switch to tampermonkey. Make sure to export your 4chanX settings before removing greasemonkey, though.

>latest update just broke ublock origin
I think I'm done with this piece of shit browser

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fuck....

>>62128949
Whats wrong with Pale Moon?

>>62142250
Same >>62136101. I just uninstalled and reinstalled every extension and all systems go. 55.0.3 (64-bit).

>>62142325
and come 57 they will all be broke again

>>62128580
Waterfox, faggot

I'm sorry, but Palemoon is still the best browser out there.

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>>62128782
>QupZilla is also fine
not too shabby for quick basic stuff

Should I use Firefox Nightly, Palemoon, Waterfox or IceWeasel? And why?

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>>62137563
>It does horribly in objective benchmarks
This is actually stated on their blog with stuff like servo/webrender/stylo/quantum parts.

The issue is that most benchmarks can't test paralel .css stacking that they are now utilizing.

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/08/inside-a-super-fast-css-engine-quantum-css-aka-stylo/

>>62138103
This guy.

Also nice job finding the samefag.

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>>62142250
I'm on Nightly and all my extensions are working great.

>tfw /g/ users don't even know how to do simple software updates

>>62142511
Where did I say things weren't working? All my extensions (aside from ublock origin) are going to be broke in FF57

>>62142549
>Where did I say things weren't working?
It was implied by posting a bunch of outdated extensions with the text "fuck...."

>All my extensions are going to be broke in FF57
You'll be ok -- look at my screenshot. I have a canvas blocker, a referer control, and grease monkey is replaced by tamper monkey. Yeah you're losing out "Classic Theme Restorer" but that's one of the few causalities. Most everything is being ported to webext or already has been.

Keep your chin up lad

>>62142572
Nah, I'm switching to a browser that doesn't break its entire add-on ecosystem once 57 drops

Classic Theme Restorer is a pretty big casualty, because the current default UI for FF is fucking awful

>>62142599
See ya later

>>62142549
use nightly now and then you wont have to worry about a transition

i imported a profile from v41 into nightly and i had no issues with bookmarks/logins
(it suggested you should make a new one but it was worth the risk)

>>62142599
>he doesnt use minimal dark theme
bro...

>>62142613
>use a version that has telemetry that now cannot be disabled
uh, no

>>62135540
>>62136832
>>62138445
>>62139474
>muh soros

You can literally account for the minority anti-firefox posts by these retards who fell this fake news.

>>62142613
lol i have hopped distros and copy pasted my ff profile multiple times. everything remains as it is. even sync and lastpass logins work without loggining in on new system.
i think it is a security flaw on ff part.
really makes you think desu

>>62142628
youre a fucking retard

>about:config
>telemetry
>disable

chromecuks resorting to straight up lies now because they ran out of arguments

Using Brave, it seems to download magnet links separately before you're actually able to download the files properly and now I've lost extra storage space. Where the hell does the torrent viewer place the 'temporary' magnet files?

>>62142662
BOTNET

>>62142646
its designed to be decentralized so you can host your own server

>security
they use key auth which can be signed locally or by them

so yeah it really does make me think

>>62142680
dude, you can simply copy off someone's profile and paste it on your computer and get all their logins.

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>>62142662
blockchain underlayer
its to make sure your identity isnt being spoofed to prevent advert fraud

the process is still running but it stops at that point

brave already sold contracts to excluse advertising corps so they are kind of in a tight spot right now

>>62142697
when you store a password its encrypted locally

you are specifically talking about physical access to a operating system

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>>62142732
>you are specifically talking about physical access to a operating system
yes.
like a creepy classmate asks to use your computer because he has to adjust his presentation and next thing you know your dick pics are being posted on facebook
lol

>>62142755
thats what a guest account is for

do you even into security 101?
even android has unpriv guest accounts now (lolipop+)

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>>62142755
>creepy classmate asks to use your computer

You allowed this?

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>>62142773
i guess you're right. but you can't just say hold on bro, let me put you on my guest account first when he comes to you with a flashdrive.

>>62142435
waterfox because it's literally just firefox without the bullshit

>>62139609
TreeStyleTabs.

Using Opera atm, its ok.

Wanna try out that firefox nightly, but being lazy since all my shit is on opera already, eh.

>>62142807
>windows
>start menu
>switch users and dont even logout

>linux
>right click + logout
>or logout via terminal

>android
>pull down menu
>users
>guest

10 seconds for 100% the security
if hes that desperate he can wait

>>62142838
I switch from Opera when I noticed their license was listed as "freeware" on wikipedia without a proper distinction.

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I used process of elimination. Yes, Firefox has turned into shit in recent years and I no longer use it. Still, Firefox is a preferable shit to Chrome. I eliminate from consideration Chrome and all Chrome/Chromium derivative because of its embedded connections to Google services and Alphabet-owned servers. That includes Brave, Ungoogled-Chromium, Comodo, SRWare Iron, Vivaldo, Opera, Torch, Iridium and others. As for Firefox, I eliminate Nightly because it is essentially Firefox. As for the Firefox derivatives, I must eliminate Waterfox for its insistence on embedding connections to Google services and Alphabet-owned servers. I am left with QupZilla, IceCat, and Pale Moon. Of these, I have settled on Pale Moon. I am happy to say that my experience with Pale Moon has been pleasant. In fact, I believe Pale Moon (with the help of several addons) is the most secure and private browser I have ever had.

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>>62142842
really gets my brain juice flowin

>>62128580
Pretty much anything webkit based is gonna be pretty good.

I think Ill just stick with Nightly 56 forever. 57 looks so fucking shit and I really cant be bothered to rewrite all my Stylish scripts and adjust them to fucking Stylus. Too much effort for too little gain since Ive never felt like my browser was slow, pulled a lot of resources or caused any other trouble. Hell, Ive used this shit for as long as I can remember and I cant even recall the last time I crashed, and I restart by computer/browser once a month.

>>62143058
Or you could switch to Waterfox.

>>62143563
Last time I did, running 30 tabs made that shitty browser chug 40% of my CPU. That was the worst experience Ive ever had with a browser.

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FIREFOX IS BACK BITCHES

>"Google lobbyists planted john oliver for net neutrality"
>"Google Tries to Stop Ads From Appearing Next to Hate Speech"
>"Google's Chrome browser to block some ads starting next year"
>"George Soros Buys Google, Liberty Global, Sells Citigroup"
>"George Soros Buys Google and Comverse Tech"
>"George Soros Acquires Stakes In Alphabet, Netflix As Both Corps"

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-google-chrome-ad-block-20170602-story.html
>http://archive.is/9euLK

https://medium.com/@JackPosobiec/george-soros-and-google-lobbyists-planted-john-oliver-net-neutrality-campaign-c8d6668db12e
>http://archive.is/69aKm


https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/gurufocus/2012/02/16/george-soros-buys-google-and-comverse-tech/&refURL=https://www.google.com/search?q=google+soros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&referrer=https://www.google.com/search?q=google+soros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>https://archive.is/mQCQX

https://www.redstate.com/setonmotley/2017/04/26/george-soros-google-champion-government-control-internet/
>http://archive.is/qww5y

http://www.educationviews.org/soros-google-funding-net-neutrality-groups-control-internet-censor/
>http://archive.is/GLUoF

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/george-soros-buys-google-liberty-global-sells-citigroup-aig-ge-apple-cm246602
>http://archive.is/NkBxb

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/02/george-soros-buys-stake-in-netflix-google/
>http://archive.is/9PWUs

>>62143588
le google is communism meme

/pol/ needs to read

>>62143604
>botnet advocacy
>soros advocacy
>sensoring advocacy
seems about right for a cuk

>>62129497
>>62137484
both of you,get out

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So I've been using Google Chrome for basically all my life, and it's comfy and I like it. However, Firefox is what all the talk is about these days.

Is Waterfox a meme?
Is Icecat a meme?

I tried Palemoon but I'm not sure I want to support a furry faggot that has an extension blocklist.

What about "ungoogled" chromium derivatives? Can they really be trusted to be "safe?"

I feel like there are so many choices but at the same time so very few because of security issues.

>>62143649
I should have noted (if it already wasn't obvious) that I'm looking to get away from the botnet and Google jewery, which is why I'm looking into switching to a more secure browser.

>>62128619
>George Soros the browser

>>62128580
I just woke up to see all of my addons broken and labeled as obsolete,wtf do i do now ?

>>62143662
>i hurt myself today

SOROS BUYS GOOGLE

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-google-chrome-ad-block-20170602-story.html
>http://archive.is/9euLK

https://medium.com/@JackPosobiec/george-soros-and-google-lobbyists-planted-john-oliver-net-neutrality-campaign-c8d6668db12e
>http://archive.is/69aKm


https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/gurufocus/2012/02/16/george-soros-buys-google-and-comverse-tech/&refURL=https://www.google.com/search?q=google+soros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&referrer=https://www.google.com/search?q=google+soros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>https://archive.is/mQCQX

https://www.redstate.com/setonmotley/2017/04/26/george-soros-google-champion-government-control-internet/
>http://archive.is/qww5y

http://www.educationviews.org/soros-google-funding-net-neutrality-groups-control-internet-censor/
>http://archive.is/GLUoF

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/george-soros-buys-google-liberty-global-sells-citigroup-aig-ge-apple-cm246602
>http://archive.is/NkBxb

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/02/george-soros-buys-stake-in-netflix-google/
>http://archive.is/9PWUs

Why are ads showing up on Jewtube for me now? Noscript/Ghostery/ublock origin are updated. I'm not watching kikeshit to watch my free videos.

>>62142661
>you can just turn the botnet off!
Windows users, ladies and gents.

>>62142286
Dev starting to dictate what extensions you can and can't have because he says so.

>>62128580
netrunner

>>62128580
curl

>>62134748
use session manager

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>>62128580
>>62138445
>>62139545
>>62142645
>>62143678
>>62143662

I wonder how /g/ can claim they "debunked" George Soros involvement with Mozilla when Mozilla has a George soros plant inside their offices.

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/08/increasing-momentum-around-tech-policy/

Why did they do it. In the name of privacy they invalidated almost all of the extensions.

What about panorama/tab groups? Any alternatives?

Are the forks compatible with FF addons and extensions?

>>62144636
>https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/08/increasing-momentum-around-tech-policy/

and it doesn't end there.

Google Chrome

>>62144774
>In the name of privacy
anon
no
>>62144819
Waterfox is. And it will retain compatibility with 'legacy' addons.

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fuck. Does anyone know a good alternative to Feed Sidebar?

>>62144934
Waterfox.

>>62128580
Moved from ff to icecat. Most things are working but a site is not rendering properly, could be others too. It is steamcommunity. Also the google captcha where you select images and they go away is slow. Why?

>>62144910
wtf chrome has worse censorship worse that firefox use brave

>>62128580
I use waterfox op

>>62144934
Waterfox

>>62144910
>browser filtering your results before you even get them
heh

>>62139412
Happened on my laptop too. Fuck Mozilla so hard.

>>62144636
You shills have backpeddled more than a kike.

Original claims:
>Mozilla started a fake news AI
>They censor every news outlet
>It's already integrated in FF

Google is already censoring and redirecting results.

They even proclaimed they will censor in the Chrome browser now.

They control youtube and utilize spotlight as a leftist platform.

They own the search and DNS of the majority of the web.

They own Gmail and multiple forms of AI and fingerprinting via Ads to collect data.

Soros actually owns part of Google and Alphabet which directly planted people for anti-Net Neutrality
Mozilla fought for Net Neutrality.

One is satan and the other is a shoplifter.

>>62145179
DL the ublock origins beta hybrid layer in the store and then webext version from github to transfer your settings

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>>62144636
>((( Gigi Sohn )))
they're not even hiding anymore.

>>62145223
Already switched to Chrome and uninstalled FF, but thanks.

>>62145211
>Mozilla fought for Net Neutrality

Isn't Net Neutrality total government control over the web? How can that be a good thing?

>>62145242
Why did the FCC pretend to be DDOS'd then and not provide evidence?

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>>62145235
How can you even justify it?

At the least you shills are being open with your bonet advocacy now.

>>62145274
I've never really cared for the botnet but I've stuck with Mozilla because of its stance on net neutrality and other shit. It's been getting worse and worse lately and I've been thinking of switching for a while, this was just the last nail in the coffin.

I'd probably use Chromium/Ungoogled instead but I can't bother getting Netflix to work. We don't have cable so Netflix is a must so gf doesn't get bored.

>>62128580
You're eventually going to have to bite the bullet and use web extensions.

Currently using Safari™ until lastpass release their webextension.

>>62145312
t. desperate mozilla exec

>>62145303
>gf
Keep lying to yourself

>>62145367
Even if you use a fork like waterfox, those are going to move to webextensions. They'll develop a legacy version for a while, but then nobody's going to update those.
They're not even that bad.

>>62145274
>RMS
>gentoo
Stop it with this shit.

>>62128580
Open Opera

>>62145418
gentoo is built up by the individual
you cant dictate one system from another like with arch

you can have a foss and gnu respecting system and they even develop openrc

every system needs to be judged because every system is totally different

for example i have a modified gentoo that runs on my router with the librekernel

the user dictates the philosophy and licenses in their build

>>62145462
Gentoo isn't recommended by the FSF, Stallman wouldn't be caught dead using it.
Stop it with that meme shit, it was always inaccurate.

>>62145462
You should never even have the choice to use non-foss software. Allowing you that choice takes away from your freedom.

>>62136074
Yea, just like they would have stated Trump colluded with Russia if this was a few months ago. According to their (((sources))) he was. Never mind it turned out to be fake news by the supposedly reliable sites like NYT, CNN and WaPo

>>62137358
Oh so ungoogled means you have to manually install addons?

And i here i thought it implied it was free of anything Google. Of course that can't be true because Chromium is literally Google spyware and there is no way to ungoogle it

>>62142645
[This post has been deemed fake news by Mozilla and CNN and therefore removed]

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>>62145495
>Allowing you that choice takes away from your freedom
Here's your (You)

>>62145514
>>62145558
>pure speculation while Google is actually commiting these acts of treason

GOOGLE SHILLS DETECTED
>>62143588

>>62145235
>((( Chrome )))

ffs at the very least install chromium.

>>62145242
>how can that be a good thing
Net neutrality is what everyone already has and what has always been a standard. Removing it might reduce the government's power over ISPs, but it puts ISPs in total control over their users. And they already have too much control in US. Now they're free to deny traffic to certain sites, charge you additionally for certain sites, reduce your network speed and no longer guarantee the net speeds they promise on contracts. You're already limited to a single provider no matter where you live, which is a retarded practice.
Congrats, you just migrated from capitalism to corporatism. Which is literal communism in disguise.

Net neutrality is good. Removing it puts us a step closer to a totalitarian and much more heavily regulated internet.

>>62145643
In communism you pay to the state. In feudalism you pray your lord is kind enough to offer the services his corporation promised you.

>>62129498
>>62129498
httpswitchboard finally arrived for vivaldi!
in the name umatrix!
I FINALLY feel I´m back in control of this shit

>>62128580
Brave.

>>62134789
>uBlock
You mean AdNauseam, right?

>avoid firefox because it runs like shit
>finally nightly runs amazingly
>has no support for addons which made firefox worth using
what an absolute pile of shit mozilla is

Chrome

>>62145211
>Mozilla is bad
>YEAH WELL GOOGLE IS BAD TOO SHILL
There are more than 2 browsers

>>62133791
please throw yourself off a high building, thanks

using vivaldi right now, works great and most of the firefox addons i used work there too

>>62146282
Why not just use Firefox?

>>62128580
Iridium.

Is there any way to put tabs below the url bar now that legacy addons are getting buried? Having them at top feels retarded but I guess I'll get used to it if I have to.

>>62147442
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6rp0yv/can_we_have_a_big_userchromecss_thread/dl6q8iw/

>>62147493
Thanks.

>>62143604
>I love monopolistic corporations!
the post

>>62128580
just use chrome you autistic fuckbrain

>>62142435
I used Waterfox for a little bit; buggy as fuck

Waterfox did good for me but I'm curious, does it allow unsigned add-ons?

Imagehost grabber is the best image downloader period, but I'm pretty sure nightly doesn't allow it anymore. I'm not even sure the dev version does now. I know esr will, but it's not compatible with some new sites like rabb.it for instance.

I'll probably go back to waterfox.

NoScript working on 57 yet?

If you don't want to be spied on by some big company then download Chrome
Google actually respects your privacy

>>62150492
*LOL*

>>62150024
uMatrix doesn't have this problem

>>62142645
>minority anti-firefox posts
Brand loyalty :^)

>>62150537
uMatrix is nice, but it breaks certain websites (regardless of settings).

>>62128628
Or use netrunner. The best made by the best

>>62128580
>since firefox has gone to shit recently, what browser should i use?
Firefox

>>62131161
But what if I'm planning to over throw a government

>>62128628
Use CyberFox