Why net neutrality is impossible in these days?

>>>/pol/

(((they))) want to control us

They censor because they cannot effectively argue the points. They've lost on a logical level by even doing this. Not that it matters, until something more serious happens in the real world.

>>62114352
are you censoring me?

>>62114315
You don't even know what Net Neutrality is dumbass.

>>62114594
This

Even if there was some minor verifiable differences between races I don't wanna live in the fucking Gattica universe.

Your race doesn't fucking matter.

Goebbels censored what was 'troubling' for the state's lies.

>>62114315
>A monopoly that desires the government to have even more power is pro net neutrality when competition from the free market is the only true way to stop google.

>FDA caught flooding their own system with fraudulent anti-net neutrality comments
>when enquired by the public, refuses to answer

So, uh, I'm not American, but is there any legal ramifications of this? Seems quite straightforward that they're doing something illegal.

>>62114656
go live in a nigger filled neighborhood and let us know how that works out for you

>>62114797

Go live in *any* poor neighborhood and report back.

>>62114737
Update this because recently hooktube added a search feature and a google API proxy so data doesn't get transmitted to google when using search or other features.

>>62114797
I live in Oakland and it's working fine, thanks.

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>>62114737
>vidme
>their primary primary interest is not freeze peach.
Why'd they randomly inject this shit meme, when the rest of this infograph is basically normal.

>>62114656
>Gattica
How the fuck you misspell GATTACA like this? Did you truly not notice the title contains only the letters A, T, C, and G, which stand for the bases in DNA?

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>>62114315
>>62114379
>>62114513
>>62114559
>>62114656
>>62114696
>>62114797
>>62114828
>>62114844
/g/ - Technology
>/g/ - Technology
/g/ - Technology
>/g/ - Technology
/g/ - Technology
>/g/ - Technology
/g/ - Technology
>/g/ - Technology

>>62114828
>all poor neighborhoods are the same
I'm far less likely to be have violent crime committed against me walking through populated Appalachia than south side Chicago. I wonder why.

>>62114844
only because gentrification aka white people and fags moving in
>>62114828
whites commit far less crime than nigs regardless of income

>>62114885
>Surprised a politics thread is full of politics

>>62114863
Never saw the whole movie nor do I really care about it, it's just a reference to quickly communicate discrimination based on genetics tbqh senpai

>>62114923

Why is that?

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>>62114951
>>62114957

>>62114923
I'm also far less likely to have violent crime committed against me in Nairobi, Kenya than in south side Chicago. I also wonder why...

>>62114352
This is much bigger than simple right-left win politics. Large corporations that hold effective monopolies on internet infrastructure are beginning to filter out opinions they disagree with. While I personally find these politics obnoxious and irritating, they are the canary in the coal mine. What next? Will videos which explain how to prep be considered controversial, because many preppers hold the government and society in contempt? What about direct criticism of these companies (please remember that CloudFlare did not ban that Nazi website because it was against ToC, but because Prince was personally offended by the website claiming he was one of them)?

This whole episode is yet another sorry mark on how, collectively, internet and information freedom is being curtailed. The huge crackdown on pirates, Five Eyes monitoring, intrusive DRM in almost everything, the ridiculous situation with academic publishing being behind grossly expensive paywalls and textbooks being overpriced - things are getting worse.

>>62114885
The free flow of information and data, and the upholding of the individuals right to privacy, is of major importance to /g/. Why do you think we're currently having huge threads about creating our own browser? It's not principally about fun (although it is) but precisely because Alphabet and Mozilla are pursuing dangerous politics that offed those principles.

>>62114972
Dude I don't care. People just use this shit to jack themselves off. The world is a better place when we don't discriminate based on race or anything assigned to someone at birth that is beyond their control.

>>62115026
Half of this thread has nothing to do with technology, it's just politics and it's going to get this thread deleted.

>>62115065
I disagree.

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>>62114352

>>62115068
Nobody has to keep silent on politics when it blows up in our face you fucking faggot. Now get the FUCK out.

>>62115091
Yeah, black crime rates and racial IQ stastics is technology related. You fuck off.

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>>62114559
Best post.

Link to video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI

>>62115068
The two are intertwined. Don't blame me for it, or other freedom advocates - it wasn't us who invented the concept of "the personal is the political".

Should I be censored if make a video ranting why 2+2 actually equals 5 in a very serious non-satirical fashion?

If you say "no" to that, then you should allow even bigots the freedom to rant about wrong things they think is true as well.

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>>62114972
>>62114986
>>62115026

There was a point in time, when everyone was in on the joke, and then came along the normies who started wearing MLP shirts out in public, installed gentoo as their daily driver, and voted for trump unironically.

Sad.

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>>62114315
>A private company gets to control the content uploaded (for free) to their servers
The horror.

Also, wasn't it about time for people to come to /g/ to bitch about something youtube did? I was starting to believe we would never see it again.

>>62115065
You literally need to discriminate in order for the world to work, but on merit, the sad part is that third-worders underperform in merit based systems because of the iq differences between races.

>>62115065
I agree with you, but there's an honest debate to be had about the survival of Western civilization, which in turn underpins the technological society we have today. We would not be here today, in this world where we are free from disease, hunger and want if it wasn't for the concepts of personal liberty, tolerance of dissent, free inquiry and the right to live without interference, which are solely Western concepts. I look around the world, and it seems that only European nations uphold these principles, and I think it is right to ask if other ethnic groups (which are steeped in cultures which are not conducive to the free, prosperous and technologically advanced society that we have) can simply adopt these principles and maintain things as they are.

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The internet created a tectonic shift in the way people access information that was previously hidden from them by the gatekeepers (the media and the politicians).

This will end in violence, there is no other way.

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>>62115065

>>62115215
I'm more okay with that than someone going in with the mindset that black people will perform worse, and then evaluate them with the resulting bias.

I think we should hire based on merit and use taxes to improve education for everyone.

>>62115157
Except that organisations are not people.

>>62115107
Being this angry over facts

>>62115375
I never said you were wrong, I told you to keep this thread technology related. Got to deal with enough /v/iggers as it is, don't need you ruining this board even more.

Can we get this thread moved to /pol/ please? Because this isn't technology.

>>62115418
>have a discussion about net neutrality
>somehow it's not applicable to /g/
???????????

>>62115584
Half of this thread isn't about net neutrality, but completely unrelated non technology related politics.

>>62115595
Identify them and report them then. The core of the topic is about net neutrality. If mods deem it worthy of deletion they will do so, no need for you to make a post where you act like you can summon mods by just your presence.
Now stop complaining.

>>62115595
keep repeating this, it wont become true.

>>62115684
It is true, you just want to spam your offtopic politics like how /v/iggers think their GPUs should be let here because they use it for video games.

>>62114315
This has nothing to do with net neutrality.

YouTube is not an ISP or a data backhaul provider.

Also,

>>>/pol/

and sage.

>>62115674
>The core of the topic is about net neutrality
no it's not

>>62114594
A meaningless buzzword obviously.

>>62114315
>Why net neutrality is impossible in these days?
Trump and his minions are against net neutrality and they are in power. So yes, it is impossible these days.

Next question, please.

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>>62115082
>"you don't like a thing so you call it /pol/"
>proceeds to not like a thing and call it reddit

>>62114656
I'd rather live in GATTACA than in Idiocracy.

>>62115082
>Everyone I don't like is reddit

>>62115702
No. We care about this issue. Fundamentally it upsets technology to censor in this way, because we prioritize truth.

Leave this thread.

>>62114782
Holy shit, when did the Food and Drug Administration get put in charge of the internet?

Big if true!

>>62115061
>The free flow of information and data, and the upholding of the individuals right to privacy, is of major importance to /g/
but this is a fucking politics thread, this has nothing to do with net neutrality.
>Why do you think we're currently having huge threads about creating our own browser?
because other browsers are bloated and shit?
>but precisely because Alphabet and Mozilla are pursuing dangerous politics that offed those principles.
>how dare muh companies make things less offensive and pander to a wider audience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>62115065
>The world is a better place when we don't discriminate based on race
f'real tho

If assange thinks this is a digital freedom issue then it sure is /g/ related

>>62115284
#5 is fake and impossible to disprove. Because it's impossible to remove the factor for society's stereotype of black people as dumb.

Reminder google fight net neutrality

>>62115830
strange how consistent the low IQ of blacks is across all societies.

Any way to get around the limited state shit for opening videos in MPV or something?

>>62115779
>how dare muh companies make things less offensive and pander to a wider audience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Read my post again. I said it's dangerous that a few companies hold a monopoly on essential Internet infrastructure. If we were in a free marketplace, then I would have zero objection to the premise that a company can refuse to host services to people who's politics they disagree with (sadly, a position that many do not hold with the issue of real life business dealings). As we're living in an environment where there Cloudflare has a monopoly on essential services, then no - it no longer applies.

What is so difficult for you to understand about this concept? If there was only ISP and they decided they didn't like you talking about the government and thus shut you off, wouldn't you find that objectionable in a world where there was only one ISP?

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>>62115903
>Any way to get around the limited state shit for opening videos in MPV or something?
wat!

>>62115909
>how dare muh companies make things less offensive and pander to a wider audience
So explain all the ISIS videos advocating killing anyone and everyone or the BLM/NoI videos calling for police to be killed.

>>62115830
Listen, stop responding to the obvious /pol/ bait and keep on topic - the dangerous situation we are in right now where someone can effectively be utterly silenced in the digital world (which is the only space that matters today with regards to the dissemination of non mainstream opinions).

By the way, this goes two ways - if you don't agree that organisations like Hamas, or Hezbollah, or Black Panthers should have a place to express your views, you have zero right to complain about Taylor, and vice versa.

>>62115880
Strange how all societies stereotype black people negatively and enact laws against them.

>>62115065
Are you retarded?
Any sane person would realize that scientific facts are not discrimination.
That is Ludacris and sets you about equivalent to creationists.

And what is a baby assigned at birth? The number of his chromosomes, also known as gender or sex?

>>62115830
>racist society makes mulattos less dumb than blacks because it stereotypes mulattos only as half-dumb
>racist society also stereotyped Chinese railroad workers as smart
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

>>62115940
I don't see how that was difficult to read but I'll try again: mpv refuses to open videos that are in the limited state and I'm assuming it's because the link opens a warning first. My question was how to get around that.

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>>62115987
gee, I wonder why. maybe because the stereotypes are based on truth?

>>62115744
>>62115755
Where did he say that?

>>62116030
Not really. That's why they're called stereotypes, not truths.

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>Its anti-free speech

Nigger they're a private company and they can do what they like. Go to liveleak if you want to watch whatever you want

>>62116049
There is an image attached to the post. Left click on it to make it bigger.

>>62116071
Bake that cake you fucking bigot!

>>62115987
for good reason

>>62116120
Name one.

>>62116026
>videos that are in the limited state
This is the part I don't understand. What 'state' are the videos in? I'm guessing by your response that it is something obvious that is going over my head.

I've been having issues with MPV not opening youtube vids. Although I'm positive that the videos I'm watching don't have warnings.

>>62116001
If you think sex and gender are the same what do you refer to society's expectations of a person given their gender as well as the role they're typically expected to play? Gender role?

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>>62116166
Know your place toby. We're a corporate neoliberal vanguard not a petting zoo.

>>62116189
Uh oh, looks like a right wing extremist got butt hurt over the Internet. How many civilians are you gonna blow up today?

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>>62116166

>>62114737
>bitch ute

>>62116184
they are the same you fucking kike

>>62116239
Graph has been debunked on numerous occasions.

>>62116210
>It's a regular link but upon opening it in a web browser it redirects to a warning
Gotcha.

On my machine, mpv opens the video without any issues.

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>>62116254
sure thing, Jamal

>>62115830
If the stereotype makes you ACTUALLY dumber then you probably deserve it.

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>>62116214
>right wing extremist
I'm a corporate vanguardist neoliberal anti-fascist you silly anti-Semite.

>>62116267
Your charts are literally proving my point. Thank you.

>>62116281
>defund black schools because black people are stereotyped as dumb
>blacks get dumb
>"see, you got dumber due to stereotypes! It's your fault!"

Just like it's white people's fault that they're becoming a minority, not immigration.

>>62116302
>"you anti semite"
>said the nazi flag waver

>>62114594
This

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>>62116313
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

Ok, so now can we move this thread to /pol/?

>>62116365
maybe if you stopped posting in it it would go away

>>62116313
Education only matters in the young age. Black adopted by white families are smarter than other black children, but they end up dumber than whites anyway.

>>62116344
You keep on proving me right, that society, not genetics, has done this to black people.

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>>62116386
fuck off retard

>>62114315
>Why net neutrality is impossible in these days?
that is not about net neutrality though, that is just censorship

>>62116329
>Nazi projecting this hard
You need to install Chrome and get with the program anti-Semite. We don't tolerate fake news here.

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>>62116402
>posts images that don't prove anything and just strawman
>thinks I'm the retard

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>>62116441
>he thinks niggers wouldn't rob and kill him at the first opportunity

>>62115065
i wouldn't give two shits about negroes if my country wasn't letting millions of them in.

>>62116465
>white people deprive black people of education and basic necessities.
>generations later white people think black people are genetically predispositioned to violence

Looks like you should have stayed in school.

>>62116511
found the college freshman

>>62116561
>h-he called me a dropout
>I know! I'll insult him by saying he goes to school.

t. Typical dropout cuck.

>>62116601
>hates (((alt-right)))
>steals their insults

>>62116613
>hates left
>uses their meme arrows that they invented.

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>>62116632
>4chan
>left

>>62116386
Are you sure you understand what the word prove means?

Because the only thing those numbers prove is that blacks are, on average, far more violent than whites

>>62114696
Gobbles did nothing wrong

>>62116511
Name one country in the world where blacks are doing comparably to whites or asians

Also, if you're going to repeatedly play the racism card, at least provide some evidence of your retardation

>>62116636
Oh look, you just proved you're a 2016 The_Dolan refugee. Now shoo back to /pol/ where you can debate evolution and global warming.

>>62116636
>alt-right
>uses woman image
but i thought you hated women?

>>62116642
>state that society is undermining black people.
>people post evidence of black people undermined

It's pretty cut and dry.

>>62116674
Exactly!

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>>62114828
>Go live in *any* poor neighborhood and report back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>62116695
hey hey ho ho, right wing socialism has to go
hey hey ho ho, corporate neoliberalism is in fo sho

>>62115157

why does it have an ars sticker on the banana?

>>62116249
So what term/word do you use to refer to the second part of my post?

>>62116735
>he's alt-right solely because he hates people that look different
how pathetic can you get?

>>62116771
What? Where did you get that lol

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>>62115987
>black societies stereotype themselves as dumb and enact laws that discriminate against themselves

>>62116805
>black societies live in bubbles where they have no interaction with the outside world.

Stay in school, kiddo

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>>62116695
why would I hate the saviors of civilization?

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>>62116771
wh*te people really are sad, lmbo

>>62116768
gender role i guess but i don't bother with such retardation

>>62116861
Lol what is wrong with talking about the way society generally expects different genders to act? There's nothing partisan about wanting to understand society better.

>>62116851
>he actually takes this image as truth

>>62116886
take your critical theory kikery and apply it to societies that actually need it, like violent and tribalistic africa full of useless niggers

>>62116681

t. started using the site in 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq64zpcdInM

>>62116706
>people post evidence of black people undermined

Where is this evidence?

Because all that has been posted is crime and education stats that show blacks under performing every other race. Claiming that it is proof that black people are undermined is drawing a conclusion that can't be reached from such data.

>>62114315
Maybe when bullshit like OP's video with racist shit and fake data is the topic, maybe we need censorship.

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>thread devolves from protecting free speech to racial arguments
This is precisely how Marxists work, by steering the argument into an entirely different direction as to divide and conquer.

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>>62116823

So those black societies, like Nigeria, are enacting laws that harm themselves?

>>62116986
>marxists

No, its corporations taking advantage of useful idiots

>>62116071
So why should a Christian business that is against same-sex marriage bake cakes for same-sex couples?

>>62115744
>>62115755
Reddit is anti white and leftist, just like you

>>62117176
>white people truly believe that saying whites are equal to blacks is anti white

>>62115830
>mactards actually believe this

>>62116974
>statistics are racist

>>62118030
Intent can be racist. Statistics are as racist as the people using them, it's so fucking easy to imply that correlation is causation and then have a bunch of idiots believe you.

Yes if you represent crimes committed by race, black people commit more crime. No, this doesn't even begin to take into account so many other factors that influence a person when deciding to commit crime.

>>62117026
If they were going to bake them but then found out that it's for a gay wedding and suddenly spaz out, that's a bit retarded don't you think?

>>62118073
explain to me how 16% of the population is responsible for the majority of homicides. I'll wait

>>62118100
so you're totally fine with infringing on peoples' constitutional rights when it suits you. how progressive

>>62118100
Yea, but it's their 1st amendment right to not to bake the cake for a gay wedding, whether you like it or not.

>>62118127
We'd have to do a deep dive to try to understand why they're committing those crimes. There are heavily funded think tanks that try to do just that. To imply that you or I understand the extraordinarily complex nature of society well enough to be able to explain that is fucking stupid.

And no, chalking it up to literally just one variable (race), is not a reasonable answer.

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>>62118192
>you

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>>62118192
Wha'chu jus say to me cracka?

>>62114856
You missed a few like "rayciss maymays", "final solution", "shekels", and arbitrarily dismissing "legacy garbage". The whole graphic is lazy opinionated bullshit.

>>62118192
Explain South Africa

>>62118192
>>62118403
and what happened to Rhodesia.

>>62115065
> dude I don't care
What a fucking anti-intellectual cop-out. You really need to define what you mean by "better" because people being encouraged to take positions above their level of competence just sounds like it would lead to misery all round.

>>62118192
We should go with the most parsimonious explanation

>>62118458
Competence isn't defined by your race bro, and you're a fool if you think it is. It's also super weird that you think deliberate attempts not to treat people different based on their race could "lead to misery all around".

>>62118524
Read the post again, it says just because something is out of someone's control it shouldn't be relevant. That isn't realistic and is the same mentality that leases to "diversity hires". It is all well and good trying to account for systemic discriminating but pretending everyone is the same isn't the way.

>>62114885
A board that worships stallman and GPL3 is whining about censorship on the internet! Can you imagine!?!

I'm starting to feel old just thinking back to old slashdot where arguments would run endless about the POLITICS of the internet and code.

Fucking /pol/ spamming this thread about an actual serious topic.

It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong. The topic itself is irrelevant. What matters is the fact that youtube censors videos because they do not fit their political agenda!

Of course, youtube is a private corporation and can do what they want with their videos and having the government intervene would be even worse. Still, we, as the users, shouldn't ignore that if we even give a single fuck about our freedom on the internet.

Personally I won't quit youtube yet since it's too convinient and I mostly just listen music with an adblocker. But considering this incident I'm way more likely to use an alternative if it presents itself.

>>62118158
I also want to add that if the cake bakers tried to suppress the speech of the gay couple, it would e exactly like any corporation suppressing the speech of any fringe political groups: it would be an attack on the free speech of a certain group of people in both cases and an affront to the constitution, unless the group in question was making libelous claims against the business or making a credible threat against anyone. Just because an organization is private doesn't mean they are completely exempt from all pretenses of the law in terms of the constitution and what not. Why do you think the gov't enforces anti-discrimination laws that prevent the business from firing or not hiring people based on the color of their skin, religion, gender or sexual preference and how come you're in favor of that yet not the gov't enforcing the 1st amendment on these same platforms?

>>62115284
Paper 1 is about evidence for genetic variation changing as we left Africa, but in the conclusion also say any patterns in variation are due to drift and not significant.

Paper 2 flat out says that SIRE doesn't pefecly match genetic tests, and can only fit it in some cases.

Paper 3 is something about immune system genetics

The conclusion of paper 4 also says that there is not significant genetic difference between any races.

The entire middle section is just garbage about SAT scores and SEC.

As for 6, all those papers are really old. After 2007 it was found ASPM and MCPH1 have nothing to do with IQ or any other mental trait like illness.

Volkmar and Piffer are pyschology profs that only got their garbage published in obscure psychology journals. They only try to show correlations between things and don't have any real training in genetics, just like the other hacks from the 70s like Rushton.

The entire thing is garbage. Learn to find and read the sources and think for yourself.

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>>62114315
Fuck you globalists for changing every board into /pol/-lite. You just had to touch our games, you just had to touch our software.

I miss it when politics was a fringe interest for bored baby-boomers. Now we have to water the "tree of liberty" just to get our board back.

>>62114315
>Rent billboard space
>Agree to terms of what you can and can't put on billboard
>Put up sign that says "I HATE NIGGERS" because you didn't actually read the terms
>Get angry when it's not even taken down, just restricted
Why are racists always surprised when companies don't want to be associated with them?

>>62119257
Radical right wingers are always pro-capitalist until they're the ones not favored.

>>62119099
>Now we have to water the "tree of liberty" just to get our board back.
It's never coming back, every normalfag is into politics now.

>>62114352
CIA NIGGER SPOTTED

>>62119257
>>62119400
But nowhere in Youtube's TOS does it mention anything about you not being able to say racist or other wise inflammatory things. In fact, the big problem is that these videos being blocked are within Google's TOS, but they are being censored directly by Youtube for their content, even though said content is perfectly fine according to both Youtube's TOS and the law, albeit inflammatory.

>>62119400
>radical
lmao westcuck

>>62114352
t. non-huwhite

>>62119833
I'm sure the TOS say they can do whatever the fuck they want.

>>62119400
You could easily say the reverse of this is also true, liberals are anti-capitalist until they need to be favored by it.
They're all just hypocrites.

>>62114315
>cannot be embedded
>continues to embed yt video in post

>>62116706
Look at black people's average iq, compare it with crime statistics, the correlation is almost perfect

>>62119400
>company makes questionable decision
>''well I don't want to use this company's services anymore. Oh yeah btw destroy the capitalist system of oppression''
wtf I love commies now

>>62119903
Yeah, they can modify it as much as they want to but based on the current TO, Google is being a piece of shit since it says nothing about the type of content Google wants, :
https://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/

>>62119905
Yeah but usually liberals don't post their rants on /g/.

>>62114656
If you weren't a shitter you'd be able to compete with engineered humans.