/pcbg/ PC Building General

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First for Vega a poo and ryzen based

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Best mobo for ryzen 1600x? I need 6 sata and 8 usb ports.

>>62099409
>amd cards perform like shit in every popular multiplayer game
this is why people buy nvidia

>>62099422
oh man i "built" this in school 16 years ago
it was shit

>>62099409
delete this

>>62099456
????????????

>>62099471
they had us assemble one of those video game things for our technology class.

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>>62099409
>>62099448
>pubg
meme survival """"""""game""""""""""

will be superceded and replaced within the year by something else, just like dayz, rust, h1z1, ark... all these """""games""""" are throwaway shit (((early access))) garbage that was never meant to and will never be finished

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>>62099389
I've been thinking of doing a virtualized build, using linux as the host and having windows guests for casual gaming and hobby game dev, and a couple linux guests for banking and wanking. I know if I go intel I need to have a cpu with vt-d in order to get pci-e passthrough to my gaming guest, does AMD offer an equivalent and if so what is it? Would you recommend intel for this build or AMD?

>>62099509
Playerunbanned made battle Royale mods and just survive tho

Ue4 has longivity unlike dohshitsides 2 engine and Bethesda interactive.

Your basically saying wow didn't have longivity.

Mobas and fps tps arena shooters are dead that formula was perfected with of tf2 a decade ago let it die

>>62099544
Sounds memey u don't need a powerful PC for Linux but u do for Dev and gaming work

>>62099544
amd-vi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware
this will help you

Is there any reason not to take a EVGA Supernova G3 over a G2 model for the same price?

>>62099605
no

>>62099588
Ya exactly I want a powerful PC so I can do them all on one machine
>>62099597
Thanks! Looks like Ryzen might be the way to go, though this won't be for a few months so we'll see if Intel pulls something out of their ass

>>62099672
Get a threadripper x1950 and go nuts you'll never have to buy anything for 5+ years

>>62099409
That is less performance than fucking Crysis 3. God PUBG is horribly optimised.

>>62099714
Its the worst optimized game I've ever played also looks and feels like Arma,ofp with a mod over the top.

And yet it's so fucking good and the desert map is coming.

I replayed crysis 3 it ran fine it's just cpu heavy

>>62099714
PUBG is like that because UE4 isn't designed for maps of this size and for this amount of players. Even the netcode is shit.
I don't get it how the devs thought it's a good idea to use an engine like that for a game with a massive map and a large amount of players.

>>62099834
i hope someone at ea is working on that type of game with the battlefield engine, it would work great.

>>62099869
they're working on Mass Effect: Star Wars edition, so no dice engine pubg coming anytime soon
>>62099834
Because they're gooks and just wanted to use the most accessible engine which to them was unreal due to their work in tera - which is also a really fucking abysmally performing game.

>>62099714
It's a guy that made mods for ARMA working with a bunch of gooks. I don't think "optimization" is even in their vocabulary.

Can anyone tell which company's x370s to avoid? I heard MSI ones have shit bios.

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I would like to have my own server at home. I'm gonna use it mainly to stream media stuff, back up my shit, mumble... I'm probably use it for other things.

I was thinking about this build. Any thought ?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNKX6X

>>62100003
Half the time those Hitachis are used.

>>62099389
>uTorrent
>unactivated Windows
>holding soldering iron to the component cooler

Police should have shot him on sight.

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Do I need any kind of special hardware to fully utilize a Debian gaymen build

>>62100003
get r3 1200 and just oc it if you need to
dual channel memory
as other anon said those hdds might be refurbished. don't fall for the 'muh hitachi is the best meme', seagate or toshiba are also good
that psu is really expensive for only 300w. like you can get supernova g3 for $20 less.
note that you need a gpu for it to boot, since ryzen doesn't have igpu

Can't find a good freesync 27-32" qhd monitor with ips panel

$500 budget max help

Can anyone recommend me a new desk for my new build?

>>62099409
>Liquid Cooler
>Can't beat a shitty 1070 AIR BLOWER
Where did it all go so fucking wrong?

>>62100323
How rich are you?
Not rich? Go to Ikea
Rich? Go get a local carpenter to make one for you.

>>62100340
Drivers are retarded devs.

99% sure multithreaded GPU isn't enabled even though the game is obviously CPU multithreaded.

Even the 1080 and ti struggle.

>>62100358
I want it to be reasonable in price tbqh fampi

>>62100390
Ikea

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>>62099389
Whats the difference

>>62099777
>>62099834
>>62099919
>second place on Steam
Why are gamers such low-standards scum?

>>62100380
More like AMD is fucking retarded. Nvidia has released drivers after drivers which increase PUBG performances but AMD shat the bed despite Raja promising us secret sauce drivers.

>>62100428
people care more about fun gameplay than technical feats

Bump this seems to be the only screen that ticks all the boxes sadly I'm locked to reeeesync and Vega shit but pubg doesn't even go 60fps at this res if I turn it down load on a 390x would I get 140fps?
>>62100430
18% doesn't even catch Nvidia new pubg driver either.

And has 6 fucking months to optimize for this game as well

>>62100437
Performance like that is a technical shortcoming, nt a feat.

>>62100428
If you judge any group by the lowest common denominator, you will come across fucking morons all the time. Example? Look at r/pcmasterrace and you might ask why are PC builders such scums.

>>62100426
one is cheaper

>>62100426
first one: used, old model
second one: new, also old
get Seagate ST1000DM010 or Toshiba P300

>>62100449
Dota 2, CSGO, and PUBG share common problems, therefore "lowest common denominator" is not a word I would use - maybe majority.

What proc should I look for to to video encoding on a laptop?

>>62100476
What is wrong with Dota2 and CSGO?

Welp gonna kill myself nothing I try makes pubg not run like shit especially at low

Fucking gay game you would think with 100mil sales money they'd fucken fix the game

>>62100496
CSGO turns any processor into an overclocked pentium 4 and dota 2 has a lot of shit written in python or something.

>>62100038
>>62100214
I'm a eurofag. Hitachi is expansive (not all their products are available), so I might go with WD blue or Toshiba as HDD
Regarding the PSU, it only cost 50€ in my country.

>note that you need a gpu for it to boot, since ryzen doesn't have igpu
I'm aware of that. Actually I was wondering about the consumption of the system if I just had a server without X, no monitor plugged in.

>>62100514
Source 2 is a really good engine tho. Dota2 and CSGO can both run on literal toasters.

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Anyone have an experience with dust blowers like pic related? It's $90 which seems excessive, but if it's quality and stops me from buying compressed air ever again I might jump for it.

There's an older model, but it's only ~$15 less.

>>62100533
Depends on how often you clean out your PC. If you do it once every 3-6 months, get compressed air. If you do it once every month, invest in it.

>>62100526
It's a terribly outdated engine stuck in 2007 and CSGO does not utilise multithreading properly if at all.
de_nuke (among many maps) has (micro-)stuttering issues on several processors, namely an overclocked i7 3770K at 4.2GHz.

>>62100533
$15 is a great price if it also has a 2-3 year warranty. Compressed air does not even come close to the same value.

>>62100533
I got the older (cream/tan/whatever colored) model a few years back at a TigerDirect for like 50 bucks.

Its just a blower with attachments, so I agree that 90 is a bit insane, but I never regretted spending the 50 because I'd have spent that on compressed air a few times over in the time I've owned this thing.

They do run a little warm though, I can generally do mine and my girl's computers - and do a really thorough job - before the temp of the air coming out of the thing starts to make me worry a bit.

>>62100526
csgo isn't even on source 2 and it still uses only 3 threads.

>can both run on literal toasters.
cs:s ran much better on older pcs than and global offensive isn't even much of an upgrade graphics-wise. it would perform much better if there wasn't any retarded skins and shit like that.

>>62100555
Wasn't that down to the devs being fucking retarded and doing a rendering of the map badly?

>>62100600
Same problem with Dota2. It is a great engine for what it is meant to do but developers going full retard will obviously cripple even extremely good engines. Like Frostbite and Andromeda

>>62100607
The devs are retarded, yes, but it is insane go achieve performance-damaging frame drops and input lag while GPU is at ~80% and CPU is at fucking 40%

>>62100632
>for what it is meant to do
Considering Gmod severs still ban you for small scripts and projects, it's worse than gamebryo.

>>62100633
Remember that majority of those playing CSGO and Dota2 are doing it via toasters. It is obviously better to cater to the low-end crowd than the high-end one. Not saying what they are doing it right but obviously it is intentional.

>>62100653
For what is meant to do here means running it on toasters. The only more toaster friendly game engine is MT frameworks.

>>62100673
>MT frameworks
Time has come and so have I, anon.

I'm going to sperg out on a new gaming PC w/ Linux dual boot, I have some q's pls no troll

1. Are there any meaningful differences between brands/makes of GTX 1080Ti? I want my shit to last so I'm not going to OC it. Being quiet would be nice. I don't want to have to download shitty rice software to get it to work. Should I just go cheap as possible, eg the ASUS Turbo? What about silicon quality - what does that affect.

2. Is the Dell S2716DG gud?

3. For Z270 motherboards there's a big price range. Why would anyone pay $200+ for one? Would a MSI Tomahawk gimp me with a 7700K and 3200 RAM?

I want into GPU passthrough and need a AM4 mobo for that.

According to several guides online you need to have
1 PCIe 3.0 16x slot for the guest GPU
1 PCIe 3.0/2.0 slot that's not able to Xfire/SLI with the slot above for the host system

It seems only the higher tier AM4 mobos feature a setup like that with the cheapest being the MSI Krait x370 for 140€.

Anyone else dabbling with GPU passthrough on here that wants to share his build and experiences?

>>62100717
1. Nothing. Only difference is temps, noise and features (RGB)
2. Read the reviews.
3. Motherboards that can overclock K processors have huge price ranges due to difference in quality of the components used which affects overclocking

>>62100717
>1.
Get the one with the best cooling, i.e. full copper contact with GPU. Change the thermal paste with something high-end like liquid metal. Grizzly Conductonaut is what I use and have a 20*C drop on my laptop's 750M.

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>Make comment about cryptoshit on Reddit
>People desperately trying to defend it
>Main argument seems to be that the USD is evil and that the fed is controlled by the Jews, obfuscated by trying to make false comparisons that in reality all just point out how much of a fucking con job it all is

Motherfuckers are going to pay for getting in the way of my desperate escapism.

>>62100717
I'm not 100% sure but doesn't AMD have the superior Linux GPU drivers atm?

>>62100751
Are you for or against the evil-dollar argument?

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I have this strange issue - when I apply a lot of voltage to the vcore of my fury x, the DisplayPort monitor I have goes black in Fallout 4, while every other HDMI monitor is fine

has anyone had similar issues with DisplayPort and AMD gpus?

>>62100717
i wanna try and help you anon but I am not as experienced as your average wizard /g/ user

1. only temps, noise and aesthetics. I heard good things about the gigabyte aorus and asus strix being beset at these. Others might make more sound and have trouble with temps, look at reviews

2. if you want 144 Hz gaymen then yes. Panel is ok with calibrations but not better than IPS if you are into to that.

3. no idea

>>62100757
It does, nshitia drivers have compatibility issues and this whole X.org thing iso ne huge fuck-up that does not work.
Fucking nvidia settings app does not save my changes at all.

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Is RAM more expensive nowadays?

I thought by now a pair of 8gb sticks would cost less or at least comparable to what pairs of 4gb ddr3 sticks cost 5-6 years ago. Maybe it's cause I'm looking at gaymer ram but the "value select" ram isn't much cheaper. It's such a bummer when a ryzen board and CPU upgrade looks so attractive. The ram costs 3/4 what the processor is worth for fucks sake.

>>62100770
>AMD drivers

>>62100770
Have you tried using an HDMI cable instead? Are you sure it's the monitor and not the drivers crashing?

>>62100760
The USD holds some legitimacy as a currency and isn't inherently from conception just some fucking scheme to bilk people out of real money in exchange for whispers.

People consumed by greed fucking disgust me.

Anyone looking to build a rig for gaming should be waiting for coffee lake at this point

>>62100794
yeah it's super expensive right now.

>>62100825
Honestly, your CPU doesn't matter for gaming. A good GPU will suffice 90% of the time.

>>62100825
really??? My return period for some of my components will run out.

It gonna come out in October no?

>>62100841
Unless you want to emulate.

Emulators can't into multithreading so high single core clock is king there.

>>62100794
Been that way for a solid year

>>62100860
Only for the new emulators tho.
How is the PS3 and WiiU one coming?

Looking to upgrade a friend's PC.
Looking for decent gaming performance, the rig currently has a FX6300 and a Radeon HD 7770, and the PSU is weak as hell (Amperage is barely holding up the current spec).
Would the FX6300 hold up with say a GTX1060? And I've noticed the RX580 is around £50 more expensive than the RX480, and I was under the impression they had roughly the exact same performance, is this due to the mining phase or is this legit their prices?
Recommended upgrades in the £300 mark?

>>62100876
you can play breath of the wild just fine with a good pc.

>>62100884
1060 6 GB
The 580 and 480 are overpriced. Only get them if you are similarly priced.

Does anyone have a prediction when I'll be able to buy:
- 4 core CPU, each core at least Phenom II tier.
- at least 750 Ti or better performance GPU (can be integrated)
- 4 GB of fitting RAM, at least 1666 MHz
- mATX or smaller mobo to accommodate the above
all new for less than $200 total?

The point is to spend exactly as much as I spent on my current PC 6 years ago but end up with something better.
And yes, I checked. There's nothing under $200 that even comes close.

I was thinking 2018, but now that we're closer and I see how ridiculously far away we are from the goal I think 2020 or 2021 is more likely.

Do you think we'll ever get to such a point or is consumer market done for, and it'll never get to price/performance from 5+ years ago?

>>62100745
>>62100746
>>62100779

Thanks anons.

I think I'll go for a midrange 1080ti optimizing for heat sink/fan quality so it runs cooler and lasts longer.

I'll stick with the MSI Tomahawk since I don't care about OC.

The S2716DG holds up in all reviews I've seen. Mostly just bitching about TN but I don't get the hate; it gives 1ms resp and no light bleeding. I can up gamma if I care about blacks.

I basically want to drop $2.5k on a gaymen system and be set for the next decade. We'll see.

>>62100757
Yeah Phoronix is showing AMD's open source drivers as better, but Nvidia's closed source still blows it all out of the water. Anyway I won't be using my GPU
much on Linux (dev purposes).

>>62100825

>thinking there's progress to be made in CPU arch
>2017

>>62100884
If you get a better PSU and OC the 6300 it should hold up alright with a 1060. Stay away from AMD cards right now.

>>62100717
1. cooling (which also affects noise), clocks (performance), warranty, features like dual bios, looks. asus turbo is blower type, so it's shit (basically a jet engine)
2. get Viewsonic XG2703-GS instead. other choices: Acer XB271HU = AOC AG271QG > Asus PG279Q
3. features, VRMs, asthenic, sli/crossfire support etc. maybe something from asus would be better

>>62100813
>People consumed by greed fucking disgust me.
So you are against the US dollar.

>>62100919
The main issues preventing what you're describing are RAM, mobo, and CPU prices. RAM and mobos don't really get any cheaper to make. Also we're already at a point where even budget CPUs are noticeably faster than phenom II. It's not like you can go even lower to save money - the option doesn't even exist (someone correct me if I'm wrong - do celerons still exist?).

>>62100919
>all of that for under $200
yes, never.

>>62101038
If it's USD vs Crypto, I side with the USD 99.9% of the time. Crypto as it exists, regardless of intent, exists today as a get rich quick scam. To the detriment of any point people may have ever intended.

The fall-back argument of anyone trying to convince people to waste their fucking time with crypto is always "But people back in 20XX all said the same thing, and then it exploded! And it'll do it again!" It's appealing to greed and naivity. That's not promoting a currency. That's abusing people's weaknesses.

>>62101167
>get rich quick
It is a proper investment opportunity proven with time, and then some. It is a currency by intelligent people for intelligent people. People who know what they want and do not need unnecessary and senseless government intervention like VAT or purchase records.
The US dollar, meanwhile, has started numerous wars and is in complete and utter control of several dozen people. It is subject to schemes such as trickle-down economy and money printing. It is a piece of paper that is no more valuable than what the government says it wants in taxation.

I need a good mobo with 6 sata ports and at least 8 usb ports too. 1600x or 1700? Just for gayming.

How important are CAS timings? I know that lower is better but is there a huge difference between these:

14-14-14-34-2N
16-18-18-36

>>62101084
>The main issues preventing what you're describing are RAM, mobo
Alternative route is: keep it AM3, DDR3 but use up to $140 on CPU+GPU.
Which leaves us with crap options anyway because no AM3 APU holds a candle to Athlon II, and new Athlons have no i-gpu so we're back to square one.

>we're already at a point where even budget CPUs are noticeably faster than phenom II
And are so expensive it should be illegal to call them budget.

I'm guessing it's used parts market that keeps new parts' prices so high, right?
Considering used mid-tier phenom II X4 is still over $40, it'd make no sense for any company to release something new for anything less than $100.

>>62101143
Damn. Looks like I'm never upgrading then.
Still hopeful that Ryzen APUs will bring something new to the table.

If not now, maybe in five years.

>>62100825
>Anyone looking to build a rig for gaming should be waiting for coffee lake at this point
Only if they care more about Intel's cock up their ass than price/performance.

>>62101272
>Just for gayming.
r5 1600

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>>62101222
>It is a currency by intelligent people for intelligent people.
...
>People who know what they want and do not need unnecessary and senseless government intervention like VAT or purchase records.
It leaves a purchase record, though. The FBI knows every transaction that happens over cryptocurrency. You inherently leave a trail. The idea of anonymity is just pushed to make idiots do stupid things and betray themselves to the law. Otherwise, it's a perfect currency for scamming helpless people who don't have access to powerful friends.
>The US dollar, meanwhile, has started numerous wars and is in complete and utter control of several dozen people.
1. Bitcoin funds ISIS
2. Look in the fucking mirror
> It is subject to schemes such as trickle-down economy and money printing.
Again, people involved in cryptocurrency have no introspection to realize what's going on in the house they live in.
>It is a piece of paper that is no more valuable than what the government says it wants in taxation.
Again, no introspection.

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Dumb shit aside, still waiting for a good case to go on sale.

>>62101301
>Considering used mid-tier phenom II X4 is still over $40, it'd make no sense for any company to release something new for anything less than $100.
I'm pretty sure g4560 is better than phenom II in every way and it costs about $70.

>>62101393
>FBI knows every transaction over cryptocurrency
Source please
>Bitcoin funds ISIS
Bitcoin is a tool. "The US government funds ISIS" is a correct statement.
>not an argument
>not an argument

>>62100813
How long until we see all these bitcoin mining rigs up for sale on craigslist?

>>62101371
and the mobo?

/biz/ please leave

>>62101447
>Source please
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2145355-ai-uses-bitcoin-trail-to-find-and-help-sex-trafficking-victims/

>>62101445
Case in point. Has two cores and costs ~$70.

>>62101482
That is not even remotely close to the former statement. It is an isolated case just like how amazon alexis recorded a man arguing with his wife.

>>62101474
who is /biz/

>>62101515
The faggots arguing over bitcoin

>>62101498
And has a shit architecture, so it will run no better than an old laptop.

>>62101534
do you want to kiss them?

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>>62100380
>99% sure multithreaded GPU isn't enabled

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>>62101474
>>62101534
Apologies. You're right. That has no place here.

>>62100533

I have one at my workplace. Works well, but they do get quite hot after some use and you may find yourself gripping the top corner of the handle to avoid accidentally touching the canister.

>>62101498
And is still faster than phenom II x4 in any multicore benchmark you care to name.

>>62101563
>using cryptocoin processing units for games
kek

>>62101563
I have bigger tits than her and I'm a guy

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>>62101603
I have some of chicks who basically just have molehills but are 100% lean muscle. Cute, not roid scary.

THAT SAID, $15 off of $75 on Ebay today with code POSTECLIPSE15

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>>62101638
Code stops working at 6PM PST.

>>62101482
>AI checks for a common writing style
>This is somehow Bitcoin's fault

Is it worth building a custom loop if you're not overclocking?

>>62101943
Nope.

>>62101943
NO

>>62101976
>>62101955
As I thought, I'll stay with air-cooling then.

Isn't the value proposition of Ryzen at least below the r7 range negated by having to buy expensive fast ram?

>>62102223
Next gen will use AM4 as well, apparently. So it's more the strong position of not needing a new chipset should you wish to go for a Ryzen 3 and then slip forward.

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>>62102259
Er, a new motherboard. Chipset. What the fuck is my brain doing today?

>>62102223
No, because fast ram adds value itself, not to mention it's not that expensive.

>>62102223
Cheapest 2x8GB kit on pcpartpicker is $119. G Skill Ripjaws V @3200MHz(which should be compatible with most motherboards, I believe) is $130.

So it really doesn't make much difference unless you go all the way down to R3s, at which point they lose to pentiums anyway.

Which frequency should the RAM have with a R3 CPU ?
Any chance seeing the prices drop within before october/november ?

>>62102531
3200 is ideal. I wouldn't get anything under 2666 or 2800.

>>62099389
He has the most punchable face since Martin "Shekeleli" Shkreli

>>62102657
It's such an awful thing to say about a person. You cannot change your face. What if they are a decent person in their actions? Does it not matter?

>>62102590
>3200 is ideal.
it's expansive as fuck in my country. 2666 is almost the price of a 2400 / 2133. I might go with that.

>>62102760
yeah don't get 2133. 2666 will be fine. You can try to OC it to 2800 too.

>>62102750
>You cannot change your face
sure you can *decks you*

>>62101434
black and blue NZXT S340 is on sale at Newegg

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>>62103032
No interest in that case model. I consider it a waste of space.

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>>62103079
>Harley Davidson
>not Indian
-1/10

welp ordered all my shit but sadly the motherboard won't be here till the 5th also scrapped the mouse and keyboard since they had price hike
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bearfighter/saved/pdWGf7

>>62103152
hello bearfighter :^)

I have 2133 ram and I'm.on the z170 platform, would upgrading to faster ram be worth it?

>>62103152
Needs an ssd

>>62103152
Shoulda got one of those magicforce/drevo chinese mechanical keyboards.

They're like 40 bucks on amazon and they're actually quite good.

There's a EagleTec KG010 with blue switches going for 30 bucks as an amazon flash deal right now.

>>62103243
that comes later
>>62103259
that doesn't look bad actually thanks

>>62103259
getting the silver like a total fag
At least I didn't get the rainbow backlite

>debate a case with no 5.25" bays
>look up what it would cost to get an external BR-RW drive
Hah. Haha. Fuck no. $35 for a BluRay writer VS like $100+ any other way.

Lads. I've been looking to get an ssd, and those Hynix sl308's aren't too shabby. Also, unless you're copying data back and forth, most ssd's perform the same. Or so I read. Don't quote me on this.

>>62099574
>Ue4 has longivity
Literally been out for 5 years and not a single good game is out for it, epic is dead and will be bankrupt within 10 years

the rest of your post is complete gibberish and not worth a responce

>>62103853
Samsung makes the best SSDs on the market by far.

Otherwise get whatever the fuck you want. At the end of the day as long as you're above HDDs you're good. A good tradeoff as well is just getting 120gb just for your OS and main things you use and using an old or new HDD for storage. You don't need a 500gb SSD.

>>62099777
>And yet it's so fucking good
>I just like to eat shit
ftfy

what is /pcbg/ opinion on the Gigabyte Gaming K5 X370 motherboard?

Thinking about getting it for the better VRMs than B350.

>>62104091
I'd get it for the phases, it'll run cooler OC'd, that's the detail many leave out.

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hi is this a good build?

>62104115
Ur a freakin troll.

>>62104115
Seems good to me

>>62102750
>you cannot change your face
>that smug fucking smile
>implying implications

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I've got a friend who wants to build himself a PC, any opinions on this build he has passed me? I assembled mine following /g/ advice some time ago and it went pretty well for me.

also >inb& spic

>>62104531
>i5

HAVE FUN WITH YOUR STUTTERING AUTISTIC PC!!!! HAHAHAHAAAHA

>>62104548
buzz off I have an i5 and it does well for what I need it.
He'll use it for games and little more.

>>62104568
>4 [email protected]
It can't even handle single core games better than ryzen. At least buy unlocked so you can overclock to 5ghz. Then you'll pay like twice as much tho.

>>62104568
>Buzz off
HAHAHA GRANDPA TOLD ME TO BUZZ OFF HAHAHAHAHA

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>>62103259
Thanks anon now I just need a nice mouse

>R5 1600
>GTX 1070
>16 GB RAM
>1TB HDD, 240GB SSD
>1440p 60Hz monitor, no Gsync

In how many years is my next upgrade?

>>62104568
>games
where's the gpu?

>>62104801
1
1070 scrapes by on 1440p

>>62104811
forgot to add

>Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 AMP! Edition 6GB GDDR5

>>62099389
someone should tell that kid that his soldering iron isnt plugged in.
or if it is he needs to stop melting his wire insulation

>>62104769
damn that keyboard looks sexy.

>>62104053
You're right. I could. I could go down to a 120gb Samsung, but I want something with a little more space so I can run more shit quickly. Honestly, there's only good reviews for Hynix.

>>62104866
>>62103259
>EagleTec KG010
amazon has em on sale

>>62093341

>kV

seriously my neighbor?

>>62104950
Fuck, thanks anon it really looks sexy. It's gonna be my first mechanical keyboard. I'm still using some old ass keyboard my parents bought me with my first pc when I was around 7 or 8. It's gonna sound weird but I'm gonna miss this keyboard.

>>62105210
aleks? Is that you?

>>62105289
Oh nvm with shipping it's over $50.

>>62105374
is the lighting deal over? Then again I'm USA Amazon Prime
Maybe check the other colors

>>62105395
No it's still on the deal, but only one ships to my country and it's $30 for shipping, fuck me.

>>62105304
No, it's not Aleks. Does Aleks also look down on people who don't know their SI prefixes?

>>62105437
sorry m8
Aussie?

>>62105482
Aleks is a wonderful boy

>>62105493
Not your fault, just a shame because it really looks great. No, Polish.

Looking to build my first pc but I'm on a budget. Does this look fine for older games and maybe gamecube emulation?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wdNz3F

>>62105591
>Dolphin is a dual core application that relies upon IPC (Instructions Per Clock) for performance. Additional cores will not make Dolphin go any faster, though an "extra" core that Dolphin isn’t using may help slightly by keeping background tasks from using the same cores as Dolphin.

>Intel: Newer Core i5 and i7 processors such as the i5-4670K and i5-3570K are extremely fast and very affordable considering their relative power. The K series allows for overclocking, which can further improve the performance of those CPUs. Core i7 variants yield almost no benefit in IPC over the i5s they are based on, so save the cash if you’re building a Dolphin machine. For laptops, you can rely on the i7-4700MQ and i7-4930MX for the absolute best performance. Most games will run very well on any of those processors.

>AMD: Due to very low IPC, AMD CPUs are poor choices for Dolphin. The FX8000 line of processors is the best they have, and even then most of those processors will be around half the speed of the 4670K’s performance with Dolphin.

I managed on an Asus laptop in 2014 though so idk. Also modding a Wii is piss easy even I managed fyi but speed up is really nice

>>62105591
https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/#which-cpu-should-i-use

>>62105591
Get either a K series Intel to overclock or a Ryzen, over 100$ for a locked 2c/4t is way to much. If you absolutely must have intel and only 2 cores get the pentium as older games and the gamecube emulator don't need hyperthreading

>>62105633
>>62105644
This hasn't been updated for ryzen, which performs just fine

How do I know that Clock Boy is now working at Google? Not in tech because obvious, but HR or some other shit?

>>62105714
Plus I actually got along just fine with a 6350

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Please help me decide between these two monitors.


LG 31MU97Z-B
http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-31MU97
>slightly higher screen estate
>better color depth
>real 10-bit

or

LG 32UD99
http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-32UD99
>HDR display
>no further details yet
>not sure if it has real 10-bit colors since LG withholds info on that


I need a large 4K monitor with good color accuracy and 10-bit depth for content creation. No games at all. LG is jewing on the info for the 32UD99 and has pushed back the release date twice already. Do I really need HDR function in the future? Otherwise I may settle for the older monitor, be sure about the colors and save some money as well.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/B4v6Mp/entry-level-intel-gaming-build
Are these preassembled parts lists of any value? I'm looking to put together a general use computer stable enough to last more than a few years. I'll use it for some gaming, but don't see myself playing AAA titles on max settings in the near future.

On an unrelated note, do you think an extended midrange GPU shortage will cause vidya developers to release less graphically intensive titles for a time?

>>62105779
HDR is a meme, get the first one

>>62105813
>intel
no.

>>62099389
>have everything but the OS
should I just grab 10 or try my luck with a cheap activation key online for 7?

>>62105910
Windows loader

>>62105947
neat

>>62105813
swap out the pentium for a ryzen 3 1200 and compatible mobo and you are good

>>62105779
how much do both cost?

>>62106101
then he needs DDR4 ram too

>>62104531
get ryzen its better and READ THE FUICKING OP

>>62104823
>1070 scrapes by 1440p
a 290x still does 1440p 60fps ultra so no, the 1070 is just fine for 1440p

>>62106116
So does the fucking Pentium you retard

>>62106116
the pentium does too retard

>>62106113
about the same

>>62106101
That happens to be the "Entry Level AMD" build on the site

>>62106203
get the first one

>>62106245
Last time i checked pentiums were not AMD you fucking mongoloid

>>62100919
Probably when the new apus come out

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xZ747h
What should I cut back on

>>62101463
ASRock b350
>>62101552
Look at the benchmark and tell me the 1070 1080 56 and 64 are on the same level

Thanks game is unoptimized dreck
>>62104069
I love rts and RPGs as well so I'm not a complete tard

Aoe4 might not be complete shite

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The 8350 rig is up and running, I get why you guys advised against a CX750, shit is nasty to work with, but it is running fine for my first ever build.

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I pulled the trigger.
Give it to me straight, how bad did I do?

Side note: have 212 evo, not sure if its worth to look for an adapter for it or just leave it to old mobo, or just run stock cooler.

>>62107043
>I get why you guys advised against a CX750
no you don't
too many anecdotal stories of CX PSUs going tits up or causing problems 3 years later
meanwhile those on Seasonic or EVGA G2s are still going strong by that time period

>>62107050
212 evo is not fun to install and has a bad noisy fan compared to other fans

>>62107043
I have the CX 750 too. And I can tell you that low end corsair PSUs are bad. I mean I got a VS 650 because I knew no better and after a year 450 watts load was making my PC turn off. After that I wanted to buy a different one but the shop I bought it had only corsair PSUs and I got the CX 750. It hasn't shitted itself yet but I found haropc and I saw that corsair low end are garbage these days and i regret it.

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>>62107397
I'll have to get something better as zen ages and I jump on that, this was quite an experience.

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>>62107050
Did fine, son

>>62107431
Gud for you. I would advise you to get a seasonic PSU for future builds. And also whatever you buy read the reviews from hardopc. Your system seems to be good, even for gaming (a newer GPU would be necessary for new AAA titles). Enjoy it !

>>62107043
>he bought a fx 8350
wow are you fucking stupid

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waited months for vega only to be disappointed so i've pulled together the kit i need

worried about the board but the rest should be fine ye?

had to get a case cause im moving up from mini itx

>>62099389
Is a bronze power supply acceptable? Or would the extra money be worth it to get gold instead?

>>62107714
I refuse to build with anything less than a well-reviewed gold, but that's personal preference.

It's anatomically the heart of your computer. It's important to invest in something with a minimal chance of being a bum ticker.

>>62107683
make sure the RAM is QVL/compatible for Ryzen

>>62100860
Don't listen to this retard.

Should I get a fan controller? my fans sometime make a weird noise (or CPU cooler) when idle. I'm sure It's not the HDD because the sound is different and it can't be the GPU because fans are off when idle.

The noise stops if I move my PC a little. Either way, my PC fans rev up when I open a browser, do you think they could be more efficiently be used if I had a controller?

If yes, what controller? Anything else I should do with my rig? (other than upgrade the GPU for my monitor, don't want a 1080ti just yet)

>my build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gtznCy

When buying custom PSU cables, what's the difference between "Single Connector" and "Dual Connector", regarding PCIe.

>Have AMD PC
>Everything stays nice and cozy
>Switch to Intel
>Freeze to death

>>62108463
how can you freeze to death with those temps

>>62108476
Well, I'm talking Athlon for the AMD PC. The old machine ran very very warm. It was like 10 years ago. Ever since I switched to Intel shit I've been getting colder and colder. I don't have the high end house-burner tier stuff. I almost wish I did just for the climate adjustment.

>>62108504
Cool, my 7700K makes me sweet over here.

>>62108519
fuck, "sweet".

>>62108504
>r9 380 overclocked
>i5 2400 reaching 90C on heavy load
amd+intel is the best for those heavy winters.

To the anon that recommended me the P2715Q, thanks lad. Really liking it.
It was that or a U2515 which was really good but still, this looks quite better for text/coding.

>>62104950
>>62105374
I bought it anyway, the white/rainbow one is just too sexy.

>>62108504
lmao, kind of like crypto miners dilemma.

- "those computers in the basement make so much noise! I can hear them in the living room"

then later when you give in to make her happy

- "the house is so cold, I'm freezing"

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I have never heard of this company but now I want to buy a card from them.

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Built my first PC, getting this screen. Using an old HDD, is it dead or could it be something else? There's no beeping or anything, and the HDD comes up during BIOS fine and it's set to be #1 on the boot priority.

Thanks

>>62109103
Are you sure you have any OS installed?

>>62109103
Does your HDD contain your OS?

>>62109116
>>62109117
Yeah, sorry. It's got W7 and everything.

Building my first gaming comp, and I have a 1400-1600 CDN budget... Any good build lists? RBG isnt needed, but would like a glass window for the case. THinking a black and red color scheme, so prob Rayzen for GPU...

>>62109121
Probably because your HDD is missing the boot partition which is why despite being on the boot priority it is not booting. Try loading a W10 or W7 ISO and booting into it. You don't have to install it, just to make sure it is working.

>>62109121
ryzen, kaby lake? Wasn't there some problem with those cpus on win 7.

>>62109136
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7tCxY
How much does this cost in maple bucks?

>>62109155
13 maple syrups
lemme check give me a sec. math is hard kek

>>62109155
>>62109136
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vmXfWX
Opps I forgot the casing.

>>62109161
$1277.83
so I can definitely spend a little more. around 1550 would be ok for good performance.

also thanks for being a good person

>>62109160
You got to factor in the fact that the prices are different. So check with your local retailer.

>>62109161
>>62109184
thats with casing

>>62109184
See if you can fit a 1070 in there.

>>62109185
>>62109136
True, should be approx the same tho

>>62109194
Good idea. is it that much of an upgrade? or would it be better to get a 500gb ssd

>>62106832
Opposite just get better every thing

>>62109200
Depends. If you play a lot of games and can't be assed to swap them 500 GB SSD.
If all you play is CSGO and Dota2 type of games that don't require a powerful GPU, then a 1070 would be a waste when 1060 6GB would suffice. If AAA games are you thing, then get the 1070.

Also since you said you can spare the cash, I bumped the RAM up to 3200mhz.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/byGkNN

>>62109103
Set your drive that has the os on it to boot first

If you don't remember what drive it is unplug Al lthe others

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I need help...

get a 1600 + b350 MSI Tomahawk for $280 (Newegg $50 off+$10 mail-in-rebate)

or

Ryzen 1600 + MSI b350 Carbon ($344)

Would need to spend at-least $20 on a CPU cooler, so would only save $40 bucks but have a worse MOBO.

sitting on a 1080 and a psu, just got my case. halp plz.

>>62109240
Ok, I like to play CSGO and a bit of Skyrim like games, mainly CS now tho, so 1060 it is.

No CPU cooler though? Why is that?

>>62109265
1600 comes with a stock cooler that is pretty good. Only get a CPU cooler if you plan to OC well above the norms.

>>62109260
Stock cooler doesn't do?

>>62109283
might plan to in the future. should i wait till that time comes or just spend all the money now?

>>62109307
I assume you current planned build is >>62109240 i posted here? How much does that cost and how much budget do you have left?

>>62109291

shit meant to say first deal is for a 1600x, not a 1600.

Basically, what is better, a better mobo with more heatsinks, and spending $40 bucks for that

OR

having a shitty b350 Tomahawk, ryzen 1600x and some $20 after market cooler.

>>62109329
Former. Especially since AMD is planning to support it till 2020. So a better mobo might last you till Zen2.

>>62109324
part list
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/MendaxFTW/saved/#view=4NttJx

and thats $1470 maple bucks, so around 100 wiggle room

>>62109350
Throw in a cryorig H7 then.
But keep in mind that you will need to order a AM4 bracket for that. It is free but you need to contact cryorig for it.

If you are lazy then get the Quad H7 which comes with native AM4 support which is just the H7 with fancy RGB.

>>62109378
sweet. thanks for being an actually good person

>>62109418
Yeah no problem. Have fun building your build.

>>62109426
gonna be 100 percent with u here, not my build. im building for a friend.
my build is as follows though
Intel Core I7-6700k 4.2 Ghz unlocked (cpu)
16 GB Gskill vengeance 3200 DDR4 (ram)
ASUS Maximus Hero 9 (MOBO)
H-100I v2 Corsair (water cooler)
GTX 1080TI ASUS (gpu)
500 GB Samsung (SSD)
2 TB WD Black (HDD)
EVGA SuperNova 750W Platinum (psu)
Corsair Crystal 460X RBG (case)

either way, he will be very happy

>>62109445
You helping him put it together?
Well tell him what i told you and let he decide if he needs something more than a stock cooler. Everything else should be great.

>>62109482
Ya im gonna help him put it together, thats like the best part.

And ya, will do. Thanks for everything man

>>62109494
No problem enjoy.

>>62109139
I have a thumb drive of W10 somewhere but having trouble finding it. Is there anything else I can try?

It's recognizing the HDD in the BIOS, does that indicate it's not dead or does it not tell you anything? Does it narrow anything down?

>>62109513
If it is recognized in the bios, that means it isn't dead. Why it isn't booting to the HDD? Probably missing boot partition or something. It isn't dead but it might be damaged, just hope it is a bad OS that you can recover from.

Another way to test is to plug it into an computer and try it.

>>62109553
Ok, thanks.

I'm an idiot. How do I check/add the W10 partition? I have an extra thumb drive and can download link related. Do I try that?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>>62109568
Yes. Download that. Turn a USB into a bootdrive. Boot from that USB. And during the windows installation check if your OS is appearing under possible drives to install to. Don't have to actually install it to it unless you don't mind losing your data in the HDD.

>>62109329

samefag here.

found this ram on newegg

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232298

which is on MSI's supported list https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2

Will it work at 3200? It is Samsung RAM to boot.

Or do I need to buy the memeram that says Ryzen on it for $50 more?

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Congratulations Intel, you played yourselves.

>>62110118
ONE
THOUSAND
WATT
CPU

Gonna order this shit today
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4tC8VY

yay/nay?

Anyone here buy a chip from siliconlottery? Is it worth the extra cash or should I just take my chances with a normal chip that i delid myself?

>>62110118
>Basically same uArch
>Higher clocks with all cores
>Way higher clocks with single core
>Lower TDP

Something doesn't add up.

i can see a piece of lint on my 1080 ti. its about the size of an eyelash and can see it wiggling around from the billowing gusts escaping the fans. should i take it out? can it cause a short circuit?

>>62103437
Do you actually save anything on discs? What is this, 2005?

>>62110266
I borrow movies from the library.

>>62104863
It's a photoshoot. The guy taking the picture told him to do this.

Someone was complaining about his Nvidia card idling too high due to dual monitors.

Found the fix for you.
Download Nvidia inspector
Right click the overclocking button btm right
Turn on multi display power saver
Your GPU should now idle properly

>>62107050
Just run stock. The 212 isn't really better.

One day 1060 6GBs will go down to a sane price.

>>62108355
Can't you control them from the bios?

>>62108458
One has a single pcie connector and the other has two.

>>62109307
Wait. The stock cooler is fine even for a moderate OC.

>>62110186
Looking good. Do you actually need an X370 motherboard? What case and GPU?

>>62110288
What is this, 1995?
Can't you copy them on a HDD?

>>62110409
>x370
I want a high quality mobo with enough upgrading capabilities for the future, also it seems to be one of the few mobos in that price segment that allows for a gpu passthroug setup
>case
S340 Elite god it cheap a couple of weeks ago
>GPU
used 970 GTX until either Vega 56 or Volta

>>62110417
Even if you wanted to do that, you still need a drive capable of reading them.

>>62099389
Should I go mITX.

Currently running a 2500k, R290 build and its finally starting to fall behind.

>>62110439
Fair enough. That all looks good then.

>>62110186
GPU?

>>62110682
see
>>62110439

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>no new information on the POWER9 cpus.

>>62109161
>>62109155
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vmXfWX

There's an option in the upper right hand corner of the screen to change your country so prices reflect it.

>>62100445
You can run it on medium/low with a $500-$600 PC, it's not like it's unplayable

>>62099389
So... what are some good monitors to look at/buy?

Doesn't have to be 4k but just want some good response times, refresh rate, and obviously it to display a nice picture.

>don't even gaymen
>just bought a rx 560 4GB from a miner for $110.
wat do?
i guess i'll play that nier automata and give this to my little bro.

>>62110917
I have a Dell U2415 (1920x1200, 16:10) and am really happy with it.

>>62110990
decent price.
decent card.
The RX 560 is useless for mining so that's not a surprise to me. It's a good card for e-sports titles like Overwatch and League of Legends.

>>62099509
lol except pubg is actually great. dayz and h1z1 aren't even in the same galaxy, get over yourself. its going to get big.

i tried those meme games and they were shit. pubg strikes something special.

i7 6700k or i7 7700k for 4k video playback? Also is the 7700k really a bigger housefire than the 6700k? looking to upgrade from my i5 6600 non k because it uses 100% cpu when playing 4k videos

currently have RX580 GPU. CPU is bottlenecking it. going to get a Ryzen 5 1600, with whatever mobo is compatible at microcenter tomorrow (and get $30 off the CPU because they have a deal). ddr4 im getting i was thinking of G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series. and an SSD.

one problem: i have a huge C: i want to transfer over. i am going to go from Windows 7 to 10 (sadly). can i just plug it in the new cpu and it'll work or do i need to back it up? i don't want to wipe it. would it need to be the C: drive or can i use it as another drive?

>>62111359
i5 6600 should have no issue playing 4k video. That is a last gen CPU. I can play 4k video on my i5 4690.

>>62111380
It should work natively. Your license might be invalidated if it is the OEM version. Otherwise plug and play will work although I recommend a clean install anyway to remove old drivers and install new ones.

>>62111419
fantastic, thanks. im just going to plug and play, then do a clean install after i move everything over.

the reason im not doing a clean install is because i want to salvage a good 400gb or so. most of it music.

>>62111380
and scratch the ram, i might go for EVGA 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 CL16

>>62111462
Keep a 1TB portable HDD around. That is the best thing to help when you want to move large data around. It isn't even expensive

>>62111401
What player do you use?

>>62111508
thanks but i already have 2 externals, one 1tb and the other around 600-700gb, that cannot be read by my computer because my USB devices are screwed up thanks to a garbage program i downloaded (scptoolkit).

i really don't want to buy another one when i really don't need to. i think what i'll do is move all my music to the new SSD, the little scraps (around 10-20 gb? maybe 100?) to my internal HDD (2tb) that actually can be read, and then do a clean C: install. i can have a new C: though, right? i was thinking of making the SSD the new C:. will this scheme work?

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Would it be a bad move to buy a Dell S2417DG monitor in the upcoming few months?
What I like about it is
- 144 hz
- 1440p
- fast response time
- well built, clean minimalistic look, nice stand and thin bezels

I obviously want to use it for gaming, cs go etc. but I want it to be decent for daily use as well.

What I'm concerned about is that new tech such as HDR/mass 4k adoption is just around the corner and might make this seem ancient in 2-3 years. That's obviously a problem in anything related to tech but I'm on a tight budget and anything I get is at least a 5 year investment.

>>62111530
MPC

>>62111545
If that is your setup, why not just clean install W10 onto your new SSD and then move your stuff from your old HDD?

getting a new pc which i'll build on my own first time watching Linus tech tips.

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/NV4NM8

the above are the parts I chose, should I upgrade from 1500x to 1600.
and also I don't want extra cooler,fans,overclocking fancy shit etc...
just gonna put the pc together and want it running.
are the parts future proof so that I won't have to upgrade for at least 2 years and play most AAA titles.

>>62111545
>move all my music to the new SSD
>the new C:
holy shit dude
maybe you should not be building a computer.

>>62111546
>4k
Is a meme. I don't enjoy gaming on 4k at all.

>>62111576
>should I upgrade from 1500x to 1600
yes
>I won't have to upgrade for at least 2 years and play most AAA titles
get a better video card then, like a 1060 6gb.

also you have no storage.

>>62111546
considering you even get a 4k monitor, question is would your pc be able to run the games above 1440p and keep your experience smooth.

>>62111576
Yes. It is 6c/12t vs 4c/8t.

>>62111599
Can I opt for a 1060 3gb kinda pricy in my country to go for a 6gb 1060
>also you have no storage.

got a 2 1tb Physical drives with me gonna use them for storage and in the next month I'll get a 480gb 850evo

>>62111571
yeah, im going to clean install it on the new SSD. for some reason i thought because it's currently a C: drive, it needed to be cleaned at some point...but i can just use it as a normal driver later, right? further, the garbage drivers that are screwed up won't affect the new install, correct? because the new install will be on the SSD. assuming i don't clean it

>>62111581
i haven't done this since like 2013, plz no bully.

>>62111608
is the voltage and just connecting together gonna be enough for it up to be running without bs right?
will upgrade for 1600 as said by both of you
>>62111608
>>62111599

>>62111606
>>62111593

True. But there's still HDR to be concerned about. From what I've read the difference can be pretty striking and if nothing else might entail a price drop for this older tech.
Also this is a TN panel and a lot of "gaming" monitors seem to be moving towards IPS, something I don't quite understand given the slower response time.

>>62111625
...i just realized, the old drivers won't affect anything at all because they'll be under the old Windows.

>>62111646
TN gives a your weird experience if you aren't facing your monitor from front, IPS where as is same from any angle.
you won't notice that much of a difference unless the TN panel is a bad one

>>62111636
yes that will be totally fine. your psu is actually a bit overkill for the parts you have, but it will allow you to upgrade to a high-end video card in a few years if you want.

>>62111672
Thanks
> your psu is actually a bit overkill
was planning for a rx 570 but fuck miners, so gonna go for a 1060 3gb

>>62111625
Yes. Clean install it on the SSD. Don't even use your old HDD as a boot drive. Do this.

1. Install new OS on SSD
2. Turn off PC
3. Connect your old HDD
4. Make sure boot priority is your SSD
5. Go to your desktop and transfer whatever you want.

>>62111636
>is the voltage and just connecting together gonna be enough for it up to be running without bs right?
I don't understand the question.

>>62111646
A good monitor will last you for years. At most if you want to invest in a new monitor, this one becomes your secondary monitor. Or you can just sell it. A monitor has a good resale value regardless.

>>62111686
>I don't understand the question.
Like the ventilation and temperature of the processor with the stock cooler and only 2 fans in the case, will it be bricking my pc

>>62111697
Of course it won't.

>>62111711
first time building you see, totally don't know shit other than basic things from linus

>>62111729
Reading a guide should yield you most answers to your question. But yes, it won't brick your PC. Just connect it all together and it should work.

>>62111757
also
>Sarcasm aside, enjoy your overheating south bridge and mysterious crashes.
are ASUS motherboards this bad really?

>>62111775
No. ASUS motherboards are fine.

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Why the fuck does my GPU shoot up to 100% usage for 5 minutes after boot up and then go down again? Pic related.

>>62111662
>>62111646

Thanks.
One last thing I'd like to ask you or anyone who has experience with it, is 1440p too much on a 24 inch panel? Would there be any issues with reading text or whatnot? Personally, I like the idea of better pixel density and having a sharper image to look at.

>>62111686
>boot priority is SSD
Thanks, I'll follow those simple steps to the T. Appreciate you making it crystal clear for computer retards.

>>62111882
Idk about this but you can try something, download the resolution unlocker or something from google and try to keep your native res of pc let's say 1080p to 1440p and check if you're fine with it.
check the tool properly though, I don't remember its name

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Do you think that temp 3 means anything? this thing hit 61C on the core running prime while I slept to see how much of a housefire it was, and it actually wasn't bad.