>the current state of smartphones What the fuck?

>>62097099
Just don't buy smartphones without a headphone jack until it's more viable.

Lewd

>>62097099
This phone looks sexy af. What model is this? Some new """Nokia"""?

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You see, thiefs and pickpocketeers, you're not dealing with our average clueless sucker anymore!
No, i realized the legend! the legend you cheer! I AM THE SUPER SUCKER!

>wired headphones

lol

>>62097099
>PZOZ (a chink brand anyway)
More like POZZ

>>62097099
Don't purchase from meme companies. The lack of jack was made fun of in like what, 3 big presentations now?

>>62097195

you know im glad those airpods were always out of stock and /csg/ memed the kz zs5 so hard or else i would of looked like that doochenozzle

confirmed: everything happens for reason: my faith in god

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>>62097195
I hope you've seen the broly movie abridged.

>>62097272
Having those on your ears is basically screaming "look at me! i have an expensive iphone".

>>62097289
It's a very stupid movie, it's so cool but so stupid.

>>62097099
People choose themselves wether to buy a Phone with or without a headphone jack.

I simply won't spend money on phones without one

>hurr let's make phones without headphone jack to make them more compact and simple

>oh btw you will need this USB splitter clusterfuck :)

>>62097302
Well while you're here having this crisis, we're all out here losing our 3.5mm ports!

>>62097377
But it's so cool!

>>62097400
Whatever, bye Anon.

>>62097290
Having those on your ears is basically screaming "i dont give a fuck about sound quality"

>a2dp
>not apt x
>not ldac
>2017

plus just the general bass-less papery muffled sound of ALL those white headphones since the first ipod. How apple cannot into acoustics will always boggle me... yes boggle; there IS a reason. If phillips can make an awesome $10 headphone a decade ago why cant apple ?

>>62097743
That would require research and proprietary drivers.

I don't get how hey think this is more svelete or elegant. It's retarded really

>>62097805
they did exactly that with the earpods anon and failed

they are obviously getting cucked by someone with a bundle of headphone accoustic patents doin the same thing they do with "rounded corners"

i think its phillips...

>>62097957
Either that or they're putting appearance over performance.

>>62098003
Crapple would never do that, surely

>>62098119
OF COURSE they wouldn't.
That would be like using marketing instead of quality to sell products, and that's completely ludicrous.

The amount of brainlets on this board amazes me.

Why do people still want headphone jacks? Because bluetooth sucks ass and theres no viable alternative thats why. The wireless headphone space blows. They've grown complacent and haven't been driven to innovate. Apple removing the headphone jack puts a fire up companies asses to innovate and fill the space. Inevitably other companies will copy Apple and the motivation will be higher.

>>62098282
Bluetooth headphones will *ALWAYS* be inferior no matter what, because they require extra components that wired headphone DO NOT NEED, thus making them more expensive and introduces more points of weakness.

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>>62098322

>>62097743
>bass-less
That's bullshit they're really bass and mid driven. Muddled, even, by the imbalance

>>62097099
Absolutely disgusting.

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>>62098322

>>62098322
it jus werkz

>current state of feedback trawling botposts
what the fuck?

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>>62097099
Companies realize that phones have already hit their pinnacle and less people are buying new phones for what are minimal upgrades. So companies are trying stupid shit and hoping in vain that something catches.

>>62098349
Exactly my point. That's why we need another standard.

>>62099424

we do its called apt x and it does wireless 16bit lossless and sony has ldac which does wireless 24bit lossless

its just apple didnt invent it or want to pay to licence it with their billions of dollars so no standard for (You)

apple are real cunts with audio standards: see the great flac dis (alac)

>>62098349
The other thing I don't like is how companies are removing the headphone ports in favor of Bluetooth headphones. It either forces you to buy a Bluetooth headset or it forces you to buy a stupid adaptor wire to use regular headphones which looks like shit.

Give consumers the option of either or right out of the box. It's not like you'd can't have both Bluetooth capabilities and a headphone port.

>>62097099
/g/ doesn't use smartphones

>>62099543
Ok cool, how widely is that standard implemented on any devices, not just Apple? My guess is none.

>>62099793

apt x ?

Peter Nyilas on the XDA Developers forum lists the following devices as having confirmed support for apt-x on specific LineageOS or OOS versions:

OnePlus: 3T, 3, X, 2, One
Google: Pixel XL, Nexus 6P, Nexus 6,
Xiaomi: Mi5, Redmi Note 3, Mi4i, Redmi 2
Samsung: Galaxy Note Pro 12.2

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2017/02/how-to-add-aptx-to-your-oneplus-xiaomi-pixel-or-nexus-smartphone/

>you guessed wrong mother fucker

>>62099899
So I can go to Best Buy right now, buy one of those devices and an apt-x capable pair of Headphones, come home and everything will work out of the box?

>>62097099
The worst part isn't that the iPhone lacks a headphone jack. The worst part is that normalfags didn't mind, and now others are ditching headphone jacks.
What fucking cancer.

>>62099937

if you got to the shop and buy a new android phone with an apt-x sticker on the box and some apt-x headphones then yes... you get pure cd quality 16 bit lossless wireless

i dont know specific models cause i have always been an iphone guy....who just happens to own an iphone 6s and kz-zs5 with a bluetooth aptx cable i cant use and cant believe how retarded apple is acting lately

>>62097147
U11

>>62098322
Is this real? I just can't tell anymore.

>>62097290
AirPods are compatible with any iphone running ios 10 or higher, including the 2012 iPhone 5 and they're also compatible with android desu

>>62100261
>AirPods are compatible with any iphone running ios 10 or higher

funny that - my iphone 6 is jailbroken on 9.1.2

apple just keep appleing

>>62097099
Fuck this shit!
I have been waiting for a new yotaphone for like 3 years and the yota3 have no audio jack!

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>>62097099
>2 cables

>>62098322
Dont give samsung any ideas

>>62097099
>pzoz
>pozz

What's wrong with a standard 3.5mm jack? Stop trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing, dammit!

>>62101305
too thicc

>>62101305
muh thinner = better mentality.

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>>62097099

no it's the current state of phones for faggots. Superior nippon phones made with thousand times folded metal don't have this problem.

At least cables comes out from same side, shit's is terrible if you have P2+USB connected from both ends.

>>62097099
Smartphones cause cancer and brain damage.

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>>62099340
By removing features and act like it's a feature?

>>62104006
Yep

>>62100689
>samsung using any of apple's ideas

>>62097229
I came to post this.

>>62101326
Isn't iPhone 7 thicker than the 6s?
And they didn't even thin the Bezels...

>>62100689
>implying apple isn't waiting to see what other companies do and then steal it in a couple years since 2010

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>>62097099

>let me charge my phone or transfer data and listen to music at the same time because reasons

seriously, whenever i'm home my phone stays on my desk, and it keeps plugged in charging while i sleep. i would listen to music on the way to college or while i have nothing to do there but i mostly don't use my headphones. whenever i need to transfer data to/from pc i use an app called "sharelink" that allows you to transfer stuff without cables. for me it's a good thing to have only one port for both data and headphone because it is one less component that might need repairs. the only problems seems to be that most headphones, at least here in brazil, are P2 plug because that used to be the standard, but as soon as phones with only usb c port and no P2 start to get popular we'll find usb c headphones in every corner.

>not only buying phones with headphone sockets
wew lad

>>62105629
>Let me force my ideals and standards onto everyone else because if it works for me it has to work for everyone
You fuck!

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>>62102804
IKR, good chink brands don't have this problem either

>>62105631
>not only buying phones with nothing but a headphone socket

>>62097099
This isn't all that bad honestly.

Yall are just spergs.

My Samsung Galaxy S8 doesn't have this problem.

>>62100689
There's a "physical" button directly on the screen of the S8 that works with a sort of 3d touch system.
It's actually great.

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>things I do
Listen to music on my phone while I'm out
>things weird people do
Listen to music on their phone while it's plugged in the wall

>>62105901
Neither will my Samsung® Galaxy™ Note™ 8™ when it gets here.

Honestly, I would be okay with losing the 3.5mm jack if they packaged the phone with a type C jack headphone instead of trying to shill bluetooth.

It's a shit meme until the things can give me 2 days of actual reality use.

>buy phone because thin
>most people put a clunky case over it anyways so it doesn't break on the first drop

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>>62098322
top lel

>>62106082
There's a reason Oukitel phones are so durable.

>>62097109
Good luck doing this next year. I'm willing to bet that after this year, there will be no phones on the market that offer a headphone jack. Also, can we talk about how ridiculous the prices are getting for smartphones? The Note 8 is upwards of $900, the projected starting price for the new iPhone is $999, and the Essential Phone is $700. This is the real current state of smartphones.

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>>62097109
It will never be viable, wireless headphones need to be charged so its just pushing the problem around.

>>62099543
I suppose Apple won't ever support opus audio files either.

>>62105946

>things I do
-Plug any set of headphones into my phone

>things faggots do
-Pay $160 for shitty ear buds that need to be charged
-Spend more money on adapters

apple is finished and bankrupt

>>62097222
>wireless headphones

lol

>>62107069

I don't think that will be the case. There will always be phones that have a 3.5mm port. The flagships from the main companies though? that's a maybe.

Prices are fucking ridiculous now. They're just seeing how far they can push it and retarded consumers are telling them $1000 for a phone is A-OK.

I would be interested in the Note 8 but I won't support that kind of shit. Redmi Note 4 it is.

I'm a degenerate and use airpods on muh windows pc. I legit forget they're in my ears sometime and imagine thats what schizophrenia or telepathic abilities must feel like.

5/10 audio (good enough)
20/10 comfiness/convenience

don't h8 on em until you try them, fucking love mine. nothing comes remotely close for comfort/convenience.

>>62107893
>ahAHaHAhaHA g-guise f-f-f-fuck consumerism right?
>*buys new smartphone*
>I j-just showed them, ha!
Retard. I've been using the same smartphone since 2008. No reason to get a new one other than being a good goy.

>>62097109
removing headphone jacks from smartphones is a fucking crime against mankind

>>62098322
Apophis should've crashed on Earth when it had the chance.

>>62108020
>telepathic abilities

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>>62108020
As opposed to just plugging in earphones and not caring if they

>>62107893
> Prices are fucking ridiculous now. They're just seeing how far they can push it and retarded consumers are telling them $1000 for a phone is A-OK.
I just ordered an Xperia XZ Premium. $672 AUD on ebay using some discount code.

I had considered buying a Pixel XL at one point, the lack of a MicroSD card reader made me a bit apprehensive, but as soon as I saw the price there was no way I'd buy it. Phones that cost about half as much had similar specs.

>>62108526
If they run out of battery

>>62108577
If only LG didn't make like ten different fucking variants with different band support, and only allow the variants that support like no bands to be bootloader unlocked.

>>62099899
thanks man
looked it up and both my phone and bluetooth dac support aptx
time to install the drivers and testing it out

>>62107893
Give it 2 years.

>>62100638
ZOONNALTDD RAAMMPHHH!!!!!

>>62105844
Fuck you

>>62105806

Is the Pro 7/Plus any good?

It's kinda expensive for a chinkphone.

>>62110423
We'll find out soon, every other review I've seen has been completely inadequate.
http://www.gsmarena.com/justin_meizu_pro_7_plus_handson-news-26867.php


Quick tldr from what I've seen so far though. Helio X30 has faster CPU than SD821, Slower GPU,
The second screen serves always on display or as a camera or music control.
Pretty good camera.
Average battery life.
Good audio quality.
Etc.

If you want a good Meizu that's not too expensive there's the Pro 6 plus which is using the Exynos 8890 instead of Snapdragon or Helio.

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>>62097099
In Apple ecosystem it's even more ridiculous. Their new Macbook Pros are better suited with Android phones than iPhones because of usb c & headphone jack.

macbook
>headphone jack
>usb c

iphone
>no headphone jack
>proprietary lightning

google pixel
>headphone jack
>usb c

>>62097099

what phone is that?!

>>62107296
USB-C supports analog output, so you can use passice usb-c on jack adapters, or just buy usb-c headphones.
It's different for lightning, which doesn't support analog output, so you'll always need active adapters with a DAC built in.

USB-C is vastly superior to headphone jack.

>>62111457
>USB C is superior to 3.5mm
Then why don't phones have 2 of them? Could it be because it's not superior for audio and it's just cost cutting? With extra profit on the side from proprietary adapters like HTC is doing.

>>62111555
Not him, but I would say partly cost cutting, partly space saving. They'd rather you pick up a splitter than pay for 2 USB-C ports.

>>62111555
I'm sure there are scumbag companies will try to rip you off with this, but the fact that usb-c is a vastly superior standard to the headphone jack still stands.
You get twice the plug cycles, a smaller port that's less of a dust magnet and it supports way more stuff than the jack, while fulfilling the purpose of the jack perfectly.

My phone does have 2 USB-C Ports btw., it's a Moto Z with turbopower mod. One for charging, other one for whatever you like.

What exactly did htc do?

>>62111641
HTC made their u11 and ultra phone with no 3.5mm port and you need to use their proprietary adapter or it refuses to put out audio through any third party adapter.

Also only a single type c port.

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>>62097099
>tfw dedicated DAP master race

>>62113228
well apparently it won't work because HTC fucked up and doesn't output analog over the type-c port, but digital and there's the DAC inside the dongle.

In short they simply fucked up, like HTC usually does. Their motive was most likely that of a merchant though.

For example the Moto Z puts out analog audio.

>>62111457
>vastly superior
Not really.

>>62113355
name one thing the headphone jack can do better than the analog pins of USB-C
muh dongle is not an argument, as there'll be only USB-C headphones in the future, you won't need a dongle and there'll be new cables for your Ultimate Ears with USB-C plug.

>>62106040
>Honestly, I would be okay with losing the 3.5mm jack if they packaged the phone with a type C jack headphone instead of trying to shill bluetooth.
This.
You wanna phase out 3.5 on phones, because usbs are universal and better?
Then give us universal headphones, and youll see that shit explode.

>>62113390
easier to implement
which means it is cheap for phones and accessories.
You can buy any device produced the past 50 and just plug it in.
That means you can get high end stuff.

>>62113390
>In the future
Good for you, I want my shit to work now though.

>>62113390

>as there'll be only USB-C headphones in the future

you fucking wish, applefag. it will be a goddamn horrible adapter era from now on, and all because of some forced meme.

>>62107069
The regular S8 is only like 560 bucks now tho, which is a great deal!

>>62113313
>DAP
Am I the only one who thinks of BRAAP every single time I see this abbrev?

>>62097099
It's actually better in the end because if the 3.5 port breaks (it always does) then it's easily replaceable

>>62102804
Xperia always made the most sexy phones desu

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>>62098322

>>62115117
>It always does
I listen to music every day, a lot. I've yet to experience this.

>>62113614
The jack/port is such a minor cost factor, that it isn't even worth considering.
Of course it's nice that you can still use a 50 year old headphone, but you can just solder a USB-C port on those as well, if you can't be bothered with adapters.
It'd be also nice if I could use an old DIN 5 connector keyboard on my PC, but I can't. I have to convert it first, even if it still speaks the PS2 protocol.
Old standards die eventually and when they do, one side has to start.
>>62113667
Well, since all headphones can be converted easily on USB-C I don't get why you would be unable to use them as of now.
>>62114433
>you fucking wish, applefag.
Apple uses Lightning, which doesn't support analog out, which makes it a horrible standard for replacing the headphone jack. USB-C however supports it.
>it will be a goddamn horrible adapter era from now on
For the next three years, sure. Then you'll get nothing but USB-C headphones and if you want to use your old AMP/DAC you'll have to get an adapter from USB to headphone jack.

And it'll be a good thing, as the USB-C port is vastly superior to the headphone jack as it has literally the same functionality, while having many, many more as well.

>>62115013
Frankly, I hope so

>>62115117
>(it always does)

wut.

Apple shill plz go.

>>62115362
>Old standards die eventually and when they do, one side has to start.

This is wrong. 3.5mm isn't a dying standard. It's alive and well and still being used in everything that's NOT a smartphone. You're aren't going to go out and buy audio/video equipment that has USB ports for headphones.

>>62105629
>EVERYONE HAS TO USE PHONES THE WAY I USE PHONES BECAUSE REASONS
lmao it's not like everyone uses phones differently amirite?

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>>62115117
>(it always does)

>>62097099
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

>>62117087
>3.5mm isn't a dying standard. It's alive and well and still being used in everything that's NOT a smartphone.
for now that's true. But why do you think this won't change in the near future. Once manufacturers produce usb-c headphones, why shouldn't onboard sound switch to USB-C plugs as well, or at least support them.
It'll take longer to replace the jack on products that aren't very small like smartphones, but it will eventually happen.

And it wouldn't be a bad thing either. Imagine buying a Mainboard with 12 USB-C ports (two doubling as Thunderbolt), each one can be used for whatever you like. Monitor, audio, data, power supply, whatever.

And you won't have USB-C just on the mainboard, but on your monitors, speakers, headphones, harddrives, keyboards, mice, etc. as well.

You fucked up your mousecable? Just unplug a harddrive and you can switch.
You want to use an external harddrive, a keyboard and some headphones on the go? All you need is one cable.
You need to use a legacy device? No problem, as nearly every old standard can be passivly converted.
Also charging your phone, powerbank and laptop with the same power supply is possible

Does that really sound like something not desireable to you?
Because to me it sounds great and like a serious improvement over current standards.

Sure it'll be weird at first, especially on products with only one port, but maybe that'll change in the future as well. With continuum and shit, a Smartphone with 2 or more ports would make a lot of and this might very well become the next big thing. A smartphone powered PC would be enough for like 85% of people, if not more.

>>62101326
but the worlds thinnest smartphone has a 3.5mm jack...

>>62108020
>20/10 comfiness/convenience
you haven't tried the hje-120 or any good IEM. there is no way a solid piece of plastic laying in your outer ear is comfortable

>>62117744
I'm not saying the 1/8" and 1/4" jacks won't ever go away. But not in the near future, either.A/V equipment have no need to change a standard standard that has served them well for decades.

And yes, having one port for everything would be great. But again, you're focusing too much on computers, where that almost already exists with current USB technology. A/V equipment have their own standards. Every field has their own standards, and they aren't all going to switch to a computer one just because it's trendy at the moment.

>>62102372
I don't even understand this mentality honestly. I prefer a thicker phone, too thin and it feels oddly flimsy.
I had an Xperia Play before and that was a brick, but shit was it comfortable to hold. It never bothered me

>>62107069
Then don't buy the newest good goy model? Chinkphones are great and older models are perfectly fine as long as you can unlock the bootloader.

>>62118143
At the sacrifice of some sort of internal component or the battery. Have you not seen the internal comparison shots between the iPhone 6s and the 7?

>>62111457
That must be why it's used practically nowhere for that purpose

>>62108299
That doesn't help the market correct at all.

>>62107069
>>62108319
PEOPLE KEEP BUYING THEM. They're voting them with their money!

>>62115117
Bullshit, it's the male headphones-end that always breaks. Just like real life, the female end can usually take a pounding.

MicroUSB is the socket that breaks from normal use.