/retro/ - a bit dusty

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I don't know much about SyQuest, if anyone does, I'm interested in learning more about it.

Looks to be a tape drive system, my tapes look to have been used in a Mac, the last tape is dated for 1999

>>62085393
>>62085365
Nice

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>>62085676
Theres always cool stuff there, if I had more cash to spend on dumb old computer shit, I would fill my truck with floppies

Checked out this Epson another anon was interested in last time I posted this place, had to move a 60 pound filing cabinet full of 5.25" disks, but sadly its corroded very extensively, if I had my screwdriver with me I would've opened it up to see the parts inside, but from the rust all over the back and on the card ports its all probably toast

>>62085393
I think those were magneto-optical, not tape. It's basically like a cross between an HDD platter and a CD. Records magnetically but with optics to position the heads more precisely than the stepper motor of a floppy drive can - so you can increase the capacity. People quit bothering with that concept as soon as CD-RW and then USB mass storage became a thing around the turn of the millennium, but in the early to mid 90s things like this were what anyone who needed to carry around more than a couple floppies worth of shit usually used.

Iomega dabbled in this kind of thing too, thats what the Zip drive came out of.

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>>62085365
Speccy guts + ay-3-8912 soundcard I built

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Voodoo SLI is the best SLI.

>>62085365
how the hell do you use those pci slots? You would need a huge ass card for it to go all the way to the back of the case.

>>62086563
Son, that's VESA Local Bus.

>>62086650
so don't you still need to access the ports from the back of the case?

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>>62086677

>>62086779
how would that reach all the way across the isa slots to the back?

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Yesterday I got called out for not posting metal cassettes, and then called out for not posting ferrics, so here are some colourful ones.

>>62086794
You're joking, right?

Look at the card, and look at OP's image.

>>62086563
VESA slots are additons to ISA slots for cards that use the VESA utilities, one card takes the entire ISA slot + the VESA extension. They arent PCI and a PCI card wont fit

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>>62087117
Oh and heres the box
Its a bit faded and needed some tape, but its cool to have the box at all. It came in a static bag on foam.
Also has a 33mhz 486, and 280k of cache chips on board. The board seems to support up to Pentium MMX so I might deck it out for the lols

Only damage seems to be that someone couldn't figure out how to remove the battery and bent the retention arm contact, but that's a 2 second fix with some pliers.

Does any of you know about a compact cassette module for 5.25" or 3.5" bays?

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>had one of these as a kid
>learned it inside and out
>wish I still had it today cause now I know how to program it

>>62085393
they're not tapes, they're platters, SyQuest drives are just normal hard disks with removable platters, they were pretty common with Macs and somewhat with PCs around that period, never saw them used much with other platforms though, even if they'd probably be just fine for them
>>62085868
nah, magneto-optical and Zip are entirely different technologies, Iomega's answer was the Jaz

>>62087192
just realized this is not in fact the original box, the box is for a socket 7 something
ill dig the board out again later and see what it actually is, im intrigued

>>62087192
>TX
>486
>VLB
Yeah, that's the wrong box, probably what that board was swapped out for. Might support a Pentium Overdrive though if you really want to go that way.

>>62087761
>>62087807
Didn't have auto-update turned on while posting, whatever.

>>62087807
either way, it was cheap and i really have just always wanted one of those 486 chips, something about purple ceramic and gold...

>>62085365
What is this thread and what do we do here?

>>62087884
We talk about old technology. Back when computers were exciting and unique.

I got an old PC for free yesterday. It has a Gainward 5VPA Socket 7 motherboard and Windows 98 installed on an 8GB HDD. Don't know any other specs yet.
The case has a 486 sticker on it, so it was probably a 486 build that was upgraded to a Pentium. When I got it I was hoping it would be a 486, but turns out it isn't. Oh well.

>>62087192
>280k of cache chips
sure it's not 256?

>>62087192
>>62085863
You need to learn how to use your camera. I don't mean to be rude to you, but there's no excuse to be taking photos that look like this unless your camera was made before 2005 or something.

>>62087192
>>62087979
the 9th chip is just a buffer of sorts, it's actually 8x32k chips (256k cache) + 1 32k chip

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>>62085365

>>62087984
suck my COCK dude, I just took those pics really quickly when I was about to go to work, I didn't have time to check them in detail

>>62088093
not him, but that's not an excuse, you can take perfectly fine pictures in a hurry also
no need to be a dickhead about it

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>>62088093
Fuck you, pic related
>>62087984
Its an LG k10 with a shit camera, and my hands are really shaky. My apologies anon

>>62085903
I bet you just assembled a kit

>>62086046
>Slot 1
That's a 100MHz bus board, isn't it?

>>62087117
>VESA slots are additons to ISA slots for cards that use the VESA utilities, one card takes the entire ISA slot + the VESA extension. They arent PCI and a PCI card wont fit
What are you talking about.
VLB has nothing to do with VBE.
They are VLB slots not just "VESA" slots, yes they are a standard made by VESA, called VESA Local Bus.

It's basically a ISA bus with an additional 16 bit wight bus, making it a true 32bit wight bus before PCI.

>>62088303
FUCK OFF!

>>62088303
>kit
Nobody produces sound card kits for the speccy though. To be honest I found the website of a guy who reverse engineered an old AY based sound card and he had gerber files. I bought the parts and ordered the PCB, it's not like I said that I designed it.

>>62088386
>>62088406
No need to get assmad, I just asked because I saw printing on the PCB.

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>>62088413
>No need to get assmad
That wasn't me

>>62088480
yeah theres some anon being a fag in the thread
hence
>>62088093
when
>>62088171

>>62088503
Autism is one hell of a drug. By the way I forgot to post a link to that site in case there are any other fellow spectrum fags here.
http://hw.speccy.cz/melodik2.html

hey guys, does anyone know how to boot thinkpad s30 from usb/compactflash? these are my only options since it doesnt have an optical drive, and i dont have the external floppy

>>62088550
If it's bios doesn't support booting from those you can use plop boot manager.

>>62088549
That's cool, thanks!
Sorry for calling you assmad, someone's being a dildohead.

>>62087873
Not shitting on you my man, I'll take a 486 over some boring socket 7 whitebox shit any day of the week, stuff's not getting any younger.

>>62088578
thanks a lot, i will report back if i succeed

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I have a problem with this retro machine. It consists of a SY-6BA+ with 4 RAM modules "Micron" 256mb 133Mhz ECC giving a total of 1gb (the maximum supported by the motherboard) but only recognizes 128mb per module giving a total of 512mb. Suggestions?

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>tfw decently configured Ultra 60s were languishing at $200-$250 all last year on eBay and now that I have money to throw at one everything's like $500-$700
Just let me escape Ultra 5/10 hell already

>>62088578
i installed tinycore on it without problems
thank you kind anon

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>>62085393
you have a syquest sq5110. they're double the capacity of the 44MB sq555

they were iomega's competitors
bernoulli <-> sq's
zip <-> ez135
jaz <-> sparq

>>62086046
I have that Titan cooler.
>>62088318
Not necessarily, pretty sure you could run 133MHz Pentium IIIs in these, after all the guy has a slocket in action on the photo.

>>62088002
Isn't the 9th chip for ECC?

>>62089274
>you could run 133MHz Pentium IIIs in these
I'm not talking about the PIII chip, I'm talking about the motherboard's bus.
Only 3rd party chipsets had 133 buses on Slot 1 boards, they weren't common at all.

>>62089301
yeah, buffer of sorts was a bad explanation, it's just for the data cache for ECC

>>62089375
I know you meant FSB, I was also talking about FSB (there was no 133MHz PIII anyway).

Its true that Intel chipsets might have not supported 133MHz FSB officially on Slot 1.

I had SY-6VBA mobo which was not Intel, but VIA Apollo Pro 133. And that did have official support for 133MHz FSB unless my memory is completely shit.

>>62086046
is that a Soyo board?

What is the best AGP video card that has good compatibility with Windows 98?

>>62089538
Geforce TNT2
Geforce4 MX

>>62089589
I think I had Radeon 9200se on W98se, so 8500 and the related cards should work on it too.

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>>62085365
This pos has started working for more or less the first time ever. There's an issue with either the hard drive or controller, but this is the first time it's bean running in god knows how long. I hope to have the complete 5150 setup sometime this winter. I've got a 5151 monitor, but that needs repair too.

>>62089589
I was already thinking about Geforce Ti4200 but I read conflicting reports about Geforce 5 and Geforce 6 cards. GF5 and 6 are probably a bad idea in Win98 right?

>>62089737
GF5 has hardware support for DX9 if that means anything to you

>>62089538
I know 7800 GS works perfectly and without compatibility issues with the latest official Nvidia driver that supports Win98 when you add it's hardware ID to the driver.
I think there's only one Radeon card that's better.

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bumping because no retro makes me sad

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>>62085365
I saw pic related (except it's a different model) at a Salvation Army today. First time I got to try buckling springs.

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Got this stuff on my desk at work. I like to peek at it from time to time.

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>>62085365

I can't be assed to go take pics of the shit I have stored in the garage, but I've got an old 80386 build (with serial mouse and sound card!) running Win 3.1 for workgroups on it. I also have some old Osborne suitcase computer ("laptop") with a monochrome orange screen.

The old days of tech were amazing. Things were so much simpler.

>>62091128
Lovely.

>>62091128
you should take better care of it
bent pins and all

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Not too /retro/, I know it is nothing special but I got this old Dell, it was sitting in a moderately exposed garage for about a decade. Inside it is still pretty clean but the back, the I/O area is all rusty. It works, but doesn't sound nice. It boots into Windows 2000 but it blue-screens after a bit of anything.

My question is, does anyone know a good way to get rust off the backside of it?

>>62091593
Eyy I got one of those, vinegar works well. Of course proper rust remover + a scrubby sponge also works

>>62091593
sanding sponge then clear coat it, thats the ez way, if you dont care about longevity that much, then just the sanding sponge on its own is fine

use a non oxygenated liquid to rinse off the rust, alcohol or optimally WD-40, since its good on rust on its own and helps prevent it

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>>62088318
Yes it is (but since that's not an intel motherboard you can set FSB to 133 and machine will work just fine).
>>62089527
Asus P3B-F
>>62088725
>Suggestions?
440bx won't work properly with high density SDRAM modules.
Yes machine will boot, but you will got only half of RAM.
Here's a nice FAQ:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/ram_bx_faq.html
Also, lovely rig.

>>62088612
>>62088706
>>62089117
>mfw sane /g/entoomen actually exist
No problem fellow retro anons

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Why late 90s-very early 00s GUI looks so comfy?

>>62095260
There wasn't so many pixels on the screen, so everything needed to do its job in the best way.
There wasn't enormous amounts of computer power to waste away on fancy jumping and flickering buttons.

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>>62095260
You mean early 90's to late 90's.

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>>62096023

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>>62096059
Oh man, I'm sucker for 90s mac. Too bad I'm eastern europoor and there's no chance I can get one.

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>>62096247
>Too bad I'm eastern europoor
Me too!

>and there's no chance I can get one.
Just keep your eyes open and move your butt from time to time if there's a change you might find one.
This one was on sale locally for almost a year for 300€ and nobody had asked the seller, I just had a nice chat with the seller and payed less then 1/3th of the price in the end.

>>62096247
Some of the PCI PowerPC accelerators for Macintoshes also work in Amigas

>>62091128
Oh noes, >>62091546 this

>>62089630
Nice

>>62088743
pfft faggets.

still supporting infrastructure with supersparc 10/20's, ultra 2's and 486's

>>62100194
wut

Got any reto battlestaion pics? (not just pics of old computers but contemporary pics of rooms / desks set up to use them)

>>62100706
Get that bomb out of here.

>>62088578
I love that boot manager, the starfield animation is awesome

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>>62100706
If casemodding an old alarm clock gets you scholarships to top tier universities, a ton of free stuff, and meeting the president of the united states, I wonder what building that can get you.

>>62100845
>If casemodding an old alarm clock
topkek

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>>62100800
>>62100800
>>62100800

>>62100706
>diode logic

Nice

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>>62101032

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>>62101149

>>62091154
An Osborne? Those are rad

>>62100424
modern technology is made on old technology.

keeps me awake at night

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>>62100800
yes

>>62101058

you put boolet on desk, scare pc into running faster

>>62101210
Oh my god. Everything about this photo:

>The oil
>His bare ass on the chair
>Greasy hair + skin
>Fat as fuck
>Cigs
>Carpet that hasn't been cleaned in 9 years
>All the fucking metal shit
>Single shit monitor attached to shit PC running winXP covered in sticky notes and metal stickers
>Wood paneled walls in mom's basement

Imagine the smell in that room.

You know, /retro/
I really would love a VAX-11 to run BSD on. To me it's just the perfect combination of hardware and software.

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Look at this thing - it's perfect in every way. It fits under the desk, and looks so beautiful.

>>62101751
>>62101801
we know beaStIe

>>62101850
Tripfags usually don't stop tripfagging just because they get called out on their bullshit - and even if they do, I'm not him.

I wish I had one, and I likely won't get one.

>>62101884
>Tripfags usually don't stop tripfagging just because they get called out on their bullshit - and even if they do, I'm not him.
they do worse, they even samefag with trip on and off

>>62101751
>>62101801
>>62101884
>I wish I had one, and I likely won't get one.
Reproduction, WHEN?

>>62101903
I wouldn't know, I don't tripfag. Never have, never will. It's antithetical to the entire idea of Nameless World.

>>62101925
Me? I won't ever reproduce, since my entire groin area received enough radiation to hopefully kill the cancer that I'd gotten from having unprotected sex and getting HPV.
Joking aside, DEC property is probably in the hands of HP nowadays since they bought Compaq, so there's probably not much that can be done.

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I'd like to think that someone at HP Labs reads and posts on 4chan and /g/ in particular, but judging by their attempt (depicted with this post) at guessing the future, they're not exactly doing too good.

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Speaking of which, is anyone familiar with one of these babies? Always wondered what they were like to work with.

That reminds me, will IA-64 become retro?
The last processor to come out with that architecture has been developed, and when it stops being made, HPE will have to move onto something else (my guess is POWER, I doubt they're moving to x86 after all this time).

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Is Wang shit any good? I've got two old set-ups packed away in my attic. I'll dig them out if it's worth it..

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There has to be someone for whom this kind of stuff is nostalgic?

>>62102119
You might already call it retro. It was supposed to be the next big thing in the late 90s, but it came out and flopped. The only reason they've kept making it for 17 years is because there was a contract saying they had to.

I thought there was some anon who had an old first-gen Itanium rack server (2x733MHz I think), and showed up to shitpost in a guts thread with it.

>>62102244
They are either retired, dead or not wasting time on an anonymous imageboard.

>>62102244
>>62102377
Me. It reminds me of the HP workstations used at my father's work when I was a kid.

>>62102244
>>62102377
Well, you don't have to have used it back in their heyday for it to be nostalgic, lots of that shit was cheap even just a decade later, being a kid with siblings that also where tech savvy, you could have easily been using and playing around with one as a kid.

>>62101058
>All those graphics cards and Ethernet cards in that shelf
>Hanging hard drives running at a wierd angle
>Messy cables
Holy shit.

>>62101210
Is that Forza on that TV?

>>62101058
>that top port on the card at the bottom left

>>62101058
>floating eGPU solution

>>62101506
Well m8 you're the one who examined it that closely with such interest.

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>>62102182

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>>62100800

you all should take this junk in to be recycled

>>62103001
Looks like one of those cheap eGPU adapters that some people use for their laptops.

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>>62103126

>>62101107
lewd

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>>62103284
those are really well-done icons for a black and white screen

makes me think of 19th century engravings

>>62103201
I - I actually like this

>>62101107
>tfw your coworkers will never be this sexy
>tfw your coworkers are all *gender *irs

>>62103402
We had these keyboards in elementary school!

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>>62103122
A cyberpunk we deserve

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>>62103963

>>62103792
Very nice, Anon. What language/machine/purpose?

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>>62103419
Words cannot express how jelly I'm right now.
>>62103736
>tfw your coworkers are all *gender *irs
See, nowadays things aren't so bad.

>>62103681
>MIPS
Ew.

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>>62100800
"Retro" is perhaps a matter of definition, but it's more than 10 years old, at least.

Any cool shit I could run on palmOS 5?

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Who's watching Halt and Catch Fire tonight?

>>62103201
Pure X A/UX is comfier

>>62104670
I've tried watching it with my dad, but it makes him incredibly morose.

>>62103290
It's a pretty standard PCIe adapter, turns the x1 internal lane to a x16 (electrically still x1) external one.

>>62103904
Must be India.

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>>62104520
I played the shit out of ljp on my Treo 650

https://web.archive.org/web/20071228043947/http://www.little-john.net/
http://yoyofr92.free.fr/ljp/

>>62103361
>flatscreen
disgusting

>>62103452
looks like some UNIX workstation boards at first glance (obviously excluding the top/leftmost one)

>>62104793
You couldn't be more wrong. It's a quad Pentium Pro system.

>>62103581
Reminds me of the long MCA cards in my RS/6000, but a cute tiny version

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>>62104298
Even this little guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6Uh9oQvEE

>>62104185
nothing wrong with MIPS

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>>62104156
>Words cannot express how jelly I'm right now.
Dumb would be a better word, I remember a time where you could scrape those cards from aonyones junk box for 5 bucks.
Feeling real silly for not doing so.

It's not even that I didn't think they would go rarer, just never thought it would be this fast and that the prices would go that up.

>>62104298
>"Retro" is perhaps a matter of definition, but it's more than 10 years old, at least.
an 18 year old will feel that his shitbox from when he was 10 is pretty retro

retro here generally is "older shit that does not fit into other /g/ threads" usually

>>62104753
Nice

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>ywn own a win3.1 tablet

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>>62104924

>>62104807
I know, I guessed by the Intel chips, that's why I said "it looks like at first glance", because those types of boards/expansions where usually found in 80's and 90's UNIX workstations and that's the first thing that pops into my mind

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>>62104935

>>62104825
>>62104924
I wonder how a touchscreen would work for games like SimCity 2000.

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>>62096247
>there's no chance I can get one.
not with that attitude

>>62105079
It just emulates a mouse, it works fine for everything except games that lock the mouse

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>>62105079
Wonderfully, same for RTS games like Red Alert and Dune2k, also HoMM3
One of the main uses of resistive touchscreens on computers for me

>>62105126
Also digitizer screens are even better, slightly more precision, proper pen and a secondary mouse click.
Capacitive ones suck for such games though

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Opinions on the Model M2/Slim?

>>62105330
Is it mech?

>>62105367
Not the anon, but they are. They sound a bit higher pitched than a regular Model M.

>>62101210
All that's missing is a 2L bottle of Code Red.

>>62103514
why didnt this become more popular before uefi? they all used that dos tui until uefi guis came.

>>62086794

That was a short lived precursor to PCI. VLB I think.

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>>62104670
ids habbening

>>62085365
>>62087192

That's actually a PC Chips M912 V1.7 board. Pretty flexible VLB board, I own one like it. Support for up to 1 MB L2 and 64 MB RAM, 5x86 CPUs, and it is quite fast.

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>>62106122
People disliked it because it was basically the TUI in a window
But there were other graphical BIOSes, like on compaq machines. But these were actually on a small hidden DOS partition

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This thing can somehow be synced to a PC.

>>62103599
I-I know this. It's a...shit, on the tip of my brain.

>>62105126
There was also a touchscreen peripheral designed for the mentally disabled. The accuracy was terrible on CRTs but at the same time, better on LCDs. The drivers (even the 9x and NT drivers) are still on the manufacturer's website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNsn7dt8QOM

>>62106741
I remember seeing a graphical bios in about '97 and thinking, hey, maybe pcs really are catching up to macs, but they mainly never caught in because they were terrible graphical interfaces. They weren't Finder nor Explorer, and whereas you can discover your way through a text driven BIOS those were pretty sub-par.

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>>62085365

>>62106122
>why didnt this become more popular before uefi?
Because it was stupid? (it still is stupid) It's not like it lets you do anything that you can't do with the keyboard, or that it makes it any simpler. It's tinsel.

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>>62085365
What's up with that Jumper not being perpendicular...

>>62085863
Hey Epson Equity I+
I need a monitor for mine. Pretty sure the Bigfoot HDD in it still works.

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>>62107434

>>62107434
>What's up with that Jumper not being perpendicular...

It's probably not needed for whatever the setup was and was just kept there.

>>62107372
At first I thought those were birth control pills, until I saw it was just retro technology.

But then I realized: "what's the difference?" *ba dum tss*

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>>62107072
is it fair to assume that computer's dead after the cats went inside and fried it with static? or are they more resilient than that?

>>62107706
It probably didn't outright die but even minor ESD can still cause damage that will cause reliability problems down the road.

>>62107706
Puhleeees anon, these are professionals. I'm sure they touched nose to frame before beginning the operation.

>>62107706
it's probably dead
Even if the motherboard isn't completely dead, that orange guy would probably up that card by standing on it

>>62107768
I meant fuck up

>>62107768
Have you never held a kitten before? They weigh less than the heat sinks we commonly hang off cards.

>>62105102
>>62105126
What about MS Paint?

>>62107998
It's literally like a mouse
Hover it over the screen and a dot (mouse pointer) appears. Press it down and it counts as a mouse click. Better drawing programs can detect the pressure and automatically adjust the line thickness, paint can't

>>62107434
op here
got no idea, i presume its just there to hold an unused jumper or something

ever since i realized im retarded and the box is in fact not related to the board inside, ive been intrigued, but not enough to go retrieve it from the shelf and start searching up what the board actually is

i got it because you just dont see many 486 boards with a coin battery in good shape anymore, realistically im not gonna do anything with it, i dont have the funds or the knowledge to make a proper 486 PC

if i sell the board im sure as hell keeping the 486 on it, ive always wanted one of those just to have around

>>62108036
Would other styluses like the Nintendo DS stylus work?

>>62108637
for those particular screens, they were all wacom touch screens that needed a specific stylus
the DS uses a pressure sensitive screen, its stylus is just a piece of plastic
but for the touch screen XP era machines like that, you'd need a proper stylus for them

>>62109128
I believe the TC1100 uses a pressure sensitive screen as well.

>>62103001
It's for sli or crossfire or similiar

>>62110454
Not the edge connector. The socket.
It's fucking bent like 45 degrees.