/pcbg/ - PC Building General - I want to believe Edition

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Just got a 1060 6gb from EVGA for $229 this morning before it sold out.

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im looking to build my first gaming pc... does anybody have a guess as to when mining will die out so i can buy a gpu without being fucked?

rate my finished build. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DsFwsJ

>>62052714
>This is currently the big unknown. The Bitcoin craze took half a year, but Ethereum is not like Bitcoin. The creators of Ethereum have said that they will eventually switch from their current mining model to one which based more on the ownership of the currency called Proof of Stake (yes PoS very funny). The interest decline for Bitcoin mining was do to the introduction of cheap ASIC dedicated miners that made video card mining impractical because it was so much slower. Ethereum, however, is resistant to this type of change for reasons we don’t need to go into here, but a transition to a Proof of Stake system would cause a very similar loss of interest in video cards. When this happens, you will most likely see a similar situation to mid-2014, when used GPUs flooded the marketplace.

>>62052665
From who???

What cooler to get with ryzen 1600 x
Anyone has experience?

>>62052844
How hard do you plan to overclock it?
And how much are you willing to spend?

>>62052714

never

bitcoin has like 3 forks now, it's only going to accelerate

Guys. I found an RX 570 that ISN'T sold out.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131717

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>>62052844
personally, I'd see when the AMD Wraith Max Coolers finally hit shelves.

I just pulled the trigger on gigabyte gtx 1080 windforce 3x OC, how fucked am I?

>>62052895
It is however $100 over msrp and at that price just wait for 1060s to get back in stock

>>62052873
>How hard do you plan to overclock it?
Maybe up to 3,6 - 4,0 ghz

Budget for the cooling
120€

>>62052947
If you've got room in your case, get one of those monstrous two-fan/two-tower Noctua coolers then
Or you could go for an AIO if you're fine doing liquid cooling

>>62052947
There's a HUGE difference there
At 3.6 you can easily get away with a 212 EVO
At 4.0 you'll probably want liquid cooling

Can my rig handle gaming in 720p?
Intel pentium g4600 @ 3.6GHz
Nvidia geforce 1050 ti(gonna wait until price goes down or get a 1060)
8gb ddr4 ram
Not looking for anything like 60 fps on ultra. Just playable frame rates in low to med

>>62053060
>720p
That rig can probably do 1080 if you're willing to take the hit on settings

>>62052974
>>62053034
I see thank you senpaitachi

>>62053080
Its just that i dont have a 1080p monitor yet but thanks for the info

>>62052947
why don't you just spend the extra 120 on a better CPU

whats the smallest non cube m-atx case I can get that supports 7 internal 3.5" drives?

>>62053272
To still buy a better cooling unit?

>>62052920
>just wait for 1060s to get back in stock
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125903
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125879
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I5O5AP2/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=EV-106SSCG&c=CJ
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/5507806.p?skuId=5507806&ref=199&loc=8BacdVP0GFs&acampID=1&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-pZIvdyiaPdYpl1PSrWb1gA
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1332122-REG/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_aero.html
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125881

Every single one I could find in stock under $300

>>62053301
the stock ones are fine so you could just have a much better CPU running stock than overclocking a 1600 would have been. Btw getting the 1600x and overclocking it is a mistake because touching the clockspeed disables the extended frequency range, which is the only advantage the x even has.

>>62053137
Sometimes I feel embarrassed about using the same 1080p monitor for the past 10 years but then there's people like you that don't even have 1080p and I feel alright

>>62053296
Silverstone make an 8-drive NAS case for ITX.
It's a little teeny tower, hotswap iirc too.

>>62052665
Hope you don't get burned by buying refurbished video cards, Anon. Only a 1 year warranty on those.

win10 or 8.1?

>>62053388
10
Might as well join the botnet now.

>>62053388
Windows 8 a shit

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>yanked my PC onto it's side with a USB cable
>not one week after I built it

How badly did I fuck up?

>>62053296
>>62053362
Silverstone DS380.
Apparently they also make an ATX version now too.

>>62053411
8.1 =/= 8

>>62053416
shake it and see if it rattles

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>>62053416

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Should I go with a ryzen 1600 right now or wait for this coffee lake generation?

I only have about 400-500max USD to spend between RAM/CPU/Mobo. Going for Microatx build.

Already have an H100 watercooler (dunno about compatibility), a new-ish PSU, and an RX480. Upgrading from a very old FX-8320 build.

The most taxing thing I'll do is gaming.

>>62053439
all aboard the Ryzen train, my friend
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gmv4vV

>>62053439
Coffee Lake 6c/12t is going to cost more than Ryzen 7.
Wait only if you need the extra single core performance (essentially equal IPC with 3200 memory, but Intel has a clockspeed advantage for single thread can be upto 25% faster, 4ghz vs 5ghz)

So guys i got a problem
I recentrly assembled this pc (Ryzen 3 1300x, Sapphire 370 Vapor-x, Asrock Fatal1ty, 8gb of ram)
And it all worked fine, until one time every game started failing
Some games just wouldn't boot up, some booted and randomly crashed (With no message), or even Overwatch would stop working with a "Rendering device lost" error
I don't really know what to do

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>>62053480

>>62053439
coffeelake is just another 14nm refresh and it's going to be overpriced. You could probably wait just to watch the lulz unfold if you're unsure. Ryzen runs very cold so it would be good for a small case. Probably won't need your cooler. You should be surprised how much better your 480 runs though.

>>62053439
Aren't most most PhysX applications just particle effects? I feel like it's not even used for solid body animations.

And Ryzen all the way.

>>62053508
Have i fallen into the meme?

>>62053439
1600's included stock cooler will be fine unless you want to hella overclock

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>Look for a case
>There are no good cases
>Have a realization regarding case design
>Now looking for a case that's screwed or bolted together where you can disassemble it and flip the entire front panel.

>>62053362
>>62053420
thats itx boys too big
the bigger brother atx version is too large for my tastes, thats why im looking for m-atx
jesus how hard can this be, why do no manufactures make this? m-atx is pretty common for building a NAS

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>>62053589
>there are no good cases

>>62053590
SHARKOON - T9 Value
That and some 3x5.25" to 5x3.5" racks.
Probably about the best you're gonna get unfortunately.

>>62053589
Get a drill, get a rivet gun.
Get cracking!

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you should be happy for me nvidiots
no need for salt

>>62053667
Scratch that, it was allegedly matx but clearly isn't.

>>62053508
Is ASRock bad?

I've always been under the impression motherboard manufacturers weren't too different apart from maybe their support/RMA.

Every time I look at board reviews every manufacturer has a line of boards that's either abysmal or top notch.

I've been looking at ASRock boards as well so I'd like to know.

>>62053696
>not getting the Team Rocket edition

>>62053720
it was the only one available at the time
i wanted the silver one ideally cause i like wasting my money to piss people off

>>62053480
have you updated your bios to the latest from asrock's site?

>>62053338
Basically ditch 1600x because you gonna end up paying + for cooling and then be on the same price as 1700

But the 1700 has lower single core speed dunno how much that weighs in for faggot gaming compared to 1600 (x)

>>62053714
Do you really need to space your post like that? And ASRock used to be bad but as of late they're alright. Check reviews as always, make sure the BIOS and stuff is alright, etc.

will i be fine with using the same ssd for both a host and a VM? I know with hdd the best practice was to have a disk for host and a disk for the vm to prevent both trying to read at the same time and slowing performance, but is this still an issue on SSDs?

>>62053760
1700 has slightly better performance in games than 1600, but only at very high FPS, like over 120. At anything less than that they're the same. It's also improving over time,

>>62053781
if you have it connected via PCIe lanes rather than SATA, it shouldn't get bottlenecked

>>62053792
if all you want to do is game, it's a waste to go above the 1600X
the extra cores/threads only help with multitasking

>>62053802
what about with sata? how much of an issue would that be for mostly daily use, with video editing using a separate nvme scratch disk instead? and most cold storage on a nas

>>62053823
It is pretty good at feeding the GPU at very high frame rates. But not a lot of people care, and not a lot of people have graphics cards that won't reach their limit first.

>>62053773
It's just a weird autistic habit of mine on 4chan. There were a few anons who posted like that on a /vg/ general long ago and I just picked it up I guess.

>>62053902
you mean on reddit
that's reddit spacing

>>62053929
people have """redditspaced"""" for as long as 4chan has been around, why the fuck has it become something to complain about in the last few months?

>>62053949
t. Redditor revisionist

>>62053633
There isn't a single case out there that nails exactly what I want in a case.

>>62053949
Because people are uncomfortable about using both reddit and 4chan and have to false flag and call out reddit users so they can sleep at night.

>>62053949
They're children from Reddit that are trying to fit in by using any excuse to call other people Redditors

>>62053929
Ah yes, what a terrible mistake! Good thing you caught that, otherwise I would've fooled this thread completely.

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>>62054138

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>>62053789
this infograph is actually really interesting. does anybody have more of these?

>>62052640
off topic, but was the computer able to read the USB stick?

>>62054211
Does a three legged dog swim in a circle?

>>62054211
I think the last converter is PS/2 to USB (parallel to serial to PS/2 to USB) but assuming the rest work I don't think PS/2 can even send data like that.

>>62054287
thank you for your time

How much of a difference do the extra cores and threads of R7 1700 make over the R5 1600? The most taxing thing I want to do is game + stream/record and have some browser windows open.

>>62054394
for streaming you want the extra cores, always
look at a comparison of the 7700k vs the 1700 in streaming, its a slaughter, now imagine that but you get 25% less from the 1700 with the 1600

>>62053789
I don't understand the part about needing dedicated graphics when getting a Ryzen. Do I need to get one on top of the 1060/1070 I'm getting? Do motherboards normally come with one?

>>62054512
Anyone who does gaming will need a proper GPU anyhow, integrated graphics a shit
I think some people may think about putting off a purchase for a bit though, hoping for a deal
You literally can't with Ryzen though, no video without a video card

>>62054512
unlike intel, ryzen doesnt have a kawaii little gpu on the cpu. you will need a discrete gpu. this means that if you plan on getting a 1060, you are getting a discrete gpu
on an intel build, you could buy a gpu and just run video off of the motherboard, although you'd be retarded to do so, as you would not utilize the gpu you paid good money for

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>>62054138

>>62054784
>not waterproof
You had one job...

>>62053789
>Coffee Lake
Fuck i bought my cooler master evo for $35

>>62054831
sorry man, but it was either that or the rotary controls, can't have both

>>62054784
It's magnificent.

Please rate

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JVNfbj

My plan is to play competitive games on a 1080p 144hz monitor

I also went RGBfag on the build

>>62055134
throw in some Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 Air Pressure RGB's as well to complete it

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tfw just dropped 450 + shipping on pic related

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>spend all this time leaning about OC, XAMP, and bios settings
>PC kernel faults and resets bios
>try downloading Ryzen Master and throw on a +400Mhz OC
>it does everything for me
>cinebench scores go up a fuckton

explain please.

are qled monitors good? looking at the samsung U28H750UQE. is it better than ips?

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Finding it hard to decide what processor to upgrade to
Right now my mind is set mostly on TR 1900x because of the upgrade ability of the platform, and I don't need 16 cores as far as I can tell

But I would like other input, I mostly use my computer for media, editing, and video games

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If I get this case I'm flipping the side panels so the vent is located behind the CPU.

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>>62056503
Wait. Shit. I can't. Because that case specifically uses a fucky specialized thing for that side panel in particular. FUCK.

Fuck you, Fractal Design.

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>take a solid airflow case that wasn't very successful
>strip out all the good features
>cover it in glass and fill it with LEDs
>market to retards

Is it a bad idea to mix different RAM sticks? I want to double my current set but don't want to pay full price for new sticks.

>>62056595
So long as dual channel are slotted appropriately and you understand that everything clocks down to the slowest.

>>62056642
It's fine given those things, rather.

>>62053789
>>62053789
Wtf is that boost clock? Haven't found this setting anywhere... is this found within ryzen master?

>>62056399
if you can hold off till zen2 it may just be worth keeping what you have.

assuming AMD can achieve similar yields as zen1, we are looking at a huge increase in performance at 5GHz

Reiterating: I love 5.25" bays.

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>>62056760
Forgot image.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiy9Hf5lH-Y

Can even the 1080 Ti consistently put out 144 fps at 1440p for modern AAA games? I'm thinking it's a better idea to get a good monitor and a mid tier GPU now than vice versa because monitors scale better.

>>62056767
i think bay reservoirs are pretty terrible though

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Should I do it bros..

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Okay gents....let's fucking do this

>>62058757
>luxury case
>prongs

>>62053714
>>62053773
I called their support line to flash my bios and a really nice lady always answered the phone
she sounded really cute, I think she was the only one there

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None of the online pictures do proper justice to how fucking tiny M.2 drives are

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>>62054433
>Thought I'd start my build and download some drivers and apps while waiting to buy my GPU
>Ryzen doesn't have intergraded graphics

I'm building a mostly gaming rig for a friend. I already have the parts (r5 1600, 16gb 3000MHz CL16, 1070, b350 mortar mobo) and he says he doesn't have a monitor. He can't spend more than 200€, so I want him to get a 21,5" 1080 and then upgrade in a future to a 27" 1440/2160 monitor.

I have seen an IPS with 2ms, it's a Viewsonic, is it a fucking TN monitor or what.

>>62060557
>IPS
>Is it a TN
What? IPS is IPS. TN is TN.

>TFW the crypto shit makes you want to apply for a job in sales and marketing with AMD just to rein in the situation and exploit the mining fucks down to the last penny by cutting them off from consumer-grade cards and forcing the scalpers to go through business solutions to take batches of flawed chips.

>>62060570
I, was saying if it was actually a TN panel but the title said IPS, Anon.

>>62060764
If it is an IPS, it is not a TN unless they are outright lying.

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>>62060294
>intergraded graphics

>>62060943
It's better than nothing. I can't do shit now while I'm waiting for a GPU. Should've gone with intel

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>>62060557
>>62060570
>>62060764
>>62060803
Could be a VA advertised as an IPS. Or lies all around.

Fuck, the monitor industry markets 1440p as 2K. Know what resolution 2K is? 1080p. They just didn't market 1080p as 2K, so they decided to use the 2K term for 1440p to market it by associating it with 4K.

>>62060960
You should always have a spare shitty GPU around. An iGPU is a waste of die space for something you use so rarely.

>>62060943
>integrated graphics are bad
Well, even old Intel HD chips are good enough even for playing games if you know what you're doing. I don't see the point of getting a dedicated GPU until it's powerful enough to play games or do whatever else you need.

>>62061044
They are bad, stop being obtuse. If you know what you're doing you wouldn't use integrated graphics for gaming.

I really want a 1030 for just doing window manager bullshit. I already have a very decent 980 Ti, that I want to do GPU passthrough with.

My problem is that most 1030's only have 2 output ports (usually an hdmi and a disaplyport) and I have 3 monitors. Is there any GPU out there just as cheap as the 1030 and as "good" with 3 or more ports instead?

>she fell for the 16GB RAM meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyVXPyL8OgM

>>62061065
Wouldn't get anything below a GTX 1060 if I bothered with a dedicated GPU, unless I bought something without one.

>>62061180
Lol! She's literally me when I do anything with my PC. Always have to call my boyfriend too XD

>>62061180
>1050ti
>Gaming
Enjoy your GPU bottleneck

>>62061234
>cucked again

I wish vega prices were low so I could sell my 570 and get a vega. When is vega's successor coming up?

>>62061316
Vegas's successor came out a year before it

>>62061316
Pascel is out atm

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>>62061316

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IT LIVES!

>>62061647
>Model M
Jelly

Do bottom-end 2133 sticks overclock reliably to 2400 or is even that not a sure thing?

>>62061337
>>62061359
nice

samefag, but nice

Is it normal for my 1070 to get bottlenecked by my i5 4670k from a few years ago? Most of the time it runs great but in some games I don't know I just can't hit 60fps in 1080p

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Is GPU sag bad for long term?
I just got a MSI 1080ti and it had some minor sag while in the case. my turbo autism activated and I created a small GPU jack and made it level.

But I was wondering if GPU sag was even bad in the first place, like over a long period of time can the GPU just bend due to heat and die?

>pic related, its my homemade GPU support

>>62062447
>Is GPU sag bad for long term?
yes. It puts stress on the motherboard, and, over time, can destroy the PCIe slot.

>>62062594
Only if your motherboard is made of literal shit.

>>62052640
OK, I have to point this out, i5 [email protected](this is literally nothing for this CPU,and even if you don't oc it, it has turbo that goes up to 3.8, so that's ~5% difference ) is faster than r5 1600(let's say spread is -5% in worst case and +10 % in best), in every gaming scenario(pick any GPU,resolution or game,I'm even considering famously CPU core demanding games=2 of them, PUBG now recognises 6 cores, no real performance increase).
Basically, my point is, really DO check out many sources if you considering an upgrade from i52500k,i72600k,i5 3###,i7 3770k to r5 or god forbid r3, you will be severely disappointed . And even if you are buying new PC and you are accustomed to i5 2500k speeds and up and you want at least same performance (not faster,SAME) r5 1600 is lowest you can go.
Its not any kind of Intel magic or any other nonsense, its just fact that games are developed for 2-3 years at least and sandy bridge was (probably is still) most used CPU on steam for very long time so games were heavily optimised for Intel, and games that are using positive aspects of rysen CPU probably won't be released for at least 2 years. But, here comes the kicker, when games start to appreciate ryzen 1.gen, they will be heavily outdated.
And take mining into account, building gaming pc today as an futureproof machine is totally impossible unless you go total high end.
This is the fact.

>>62062594
I have one of those shielded PCIe slotted motherboards from Gigabyte. Im not really worried about the motherboard, im more worried about the 1000$ GPU

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how's my poverty build?

>>62053439
>I only have about 400-500max USD to spend between RAM/CPU/Mobo
Ryzen 1600+b350+3200mhz RAM, Coffin Lake = moar coars overpriced housefire.

>>62055134
meme/10

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>>62062689
>but muh i5 niggahurtz housefire

>>62062840
Post link
Also get 2x4gb 3200mhz

>>62063091
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kHTwBP

>>62063287
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bs32d6

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>>62062689
you're objectively wrong.

>>62063334
>cheapest 3200mhz ram that's not even on qvl
enjoy your pc not booting with anything above 2133mhz

>>62063406
>>62063406
I've booted that ram at 2933 on a x370 and a b350. Higher than that fails. Both times were with r5 1600s though. I've also never updated bios on either.

>>62063529
I've also never touched the voltage either so maybe they were just not getting enough juice. I don't really care atm because I have no good graphics card yet but I'll get around to poking it again eventually.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d3xFVY
I have everything but the case and fans. Decided on the 400c because small is justice. I kinda regret not planning on building with a mini atx board but whatever. Anything else I need or am I good to go?

>>62063612
get 3200mhz ram.

>$110 mouse
>$10 keyboard
why

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What's some good desktop speakers. Key requirements:
>doesn't cost a million dollars but isnt dollar store shit either
>bass so deep it stops my heart and makes me shit in my pants while I cum
Pic unrelated

>>62063698
probably some logitech shit that comes with a subwoofer. or if that's not good enough maybe behringer MS40 but it doesn't come with a sub.

So I need:
>good CPU cooler for 1600x
>good Ryzen motherboard

Bonus if you can suggest a good case, also a 1060 should be fine with a 1600x right?

>>62060960
I dont think the new intel 2066 has integrated anymore

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It's finally all ordered boys, just gotta put it together when these two come.

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This may seem like a dumb question but what are the minimum specs needed to surf the web at 4k?

Everything I know is about building a facebook machine for my parents or vidya rigs for different use cases. However I am looking to build me a work PC that I can program in at 4k. Mainly to keep distractions away and lower my monthly power cost.

It would also be nice if the hardware plays nice with linux, run i3wm, and play muh quality flac.

tldr: What hardware is needed to compile doom at 4k cheaply?

>>62063686
That $10 keyboard has been with me through the test of time. The 2 key on the numpad gets stuck and needs to be pressed really fast and plied back up repeatedly during the start of the day because it gets stuck down. After that it's a okay. $110 mouse was some kinda weird impulse buy.

>>62063823
yeah this must be a joke.

>>62063835
>8-16gb ddr3 1600mhz ram
>970 for comfy browsing
>1151-1155 board
>400w PSU
Very achievable. I even gamed at medium settings with just those.

>>62063764
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
MSI B350 PC MATE

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>>62063905
I wouldn't go on 4chan and spread lies, Anon.

how big is the difference between 1060 3gb and 6gb?

>>62063823
>FX
Literally why

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>>62064076
Because 65nm technology, my pc was becoming a potato so I decided to shrink my lithography a lil bit and it was pretty cheap.

Opinions on this guide?

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>62063721
Just need something answered regarding the behringer:
-do I need two or would one be enough for $500 a pop?
-Will the bass rape my ears like I'm hoping? If so, do they really need a sub?

>>62064034
If VRAM usage is below 3GB the difference is like 1-3%. But once you go above that the 3gb model tanks hard as it has to shift stuff from card to ram and back.

>>62063985
Is a graphics card really needed to display my desktop at 4k? Everything I should be doing will mostly be in terminals. Also isn't a 970 a bit overkill?

Any good DDR4 ram sticks? Would be using it for art and games.

>>62064215
Shit. Use it as a skeleton and then post build here using PCP and we will give you advice

>>62064215
Alright outline to the basics. What you'll get is a generic functional ugooo pc. What you want to do is min max for what you really want while keeping looks in mind. Go full rgb or black or whatever the hell you want while keeping in mind what you want whether it be more fps for games or more multitask/rendering shit. Remember you're gonna keep that thing on your desk for many years. Might as well put some effort into making it look good.

>>62064262
so its worth the extra cash?

>>62064359
Just spend the extra cash for the 6gb might as well get some resale value and "future proofing."

>>62052640
when buying a pc case what do i need to consider?
can the size be in any way now compatable with that i have?
do you pick different cases for different motherboards?
do different motherboards have different way of mounting to the case, like screws on different places or some shit like that?

>>62064313
F4-3200C16D-16GVK

>>62064395
Check your mobo size. Full size atx, mini atx, etc. Then pick a case. Pc part picker has a compatability filter so use that. Also go for the looks. Plan out what you want. Do you want a giant hulking thing with 6 fans running or do you want a more smaller compact powerhouse or you could build generic black pc with gaming stuff inside it.

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NEW BUILD

>>62064442
>1440p
Shit is nice, Anon.

>>62064442
>1066mhz
Okay. Its a gayming build though.

>>62064442
>single channel 2133 MHz RAM

>>62064303
>970
>overkill
Nigga it's like 5 years old now that's like calling a 700 series overkill. Also provided you have a decent cpu like at least i5 4400 and a DP on your motherboard, then sure. You don't need a card.

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>>62064442
>16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz

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ANON WITH AN EXTREMELY HOT R1600 HERE I STRESS TESTED IT AFTER APPLYING NEW THERMAL PASTE AND THE CPU WENT ABOVE 95C IN LESS THEN A MINUTE AND JUST SHUT DOWN THE FUCK

NOT FALLING FOR THE AMD MEME EVER AGAIN

>>62064442
>Single channel 2133 mhz RAM
Anon....

>>62064458
>>62064460
>>62064463
>>62064553
I don't understand the ram bit, I have two ram cards slotted into the second and fourth slots. They're both DDR 4 3200mhz.

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>>62064433
i'm planning on changing the motherboard too on a later date first i think it will be better to get a new chase and new fans to get some better air flow in the case to keep my cpu/gpu cooler,
my gpu is getting over to 80c during hotter afternoons, even tho the summer is nearly over I think it would be better to go that way, no?
currently with some dell optiflex mobo and case is pic related
its ok for the money i paid, but i want to change it

>>62064580
Did you go into your bios and turn on your XMP?

>>62064588
Nope.

I'll do that now

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>>62064581
Those ATX Optiplexes look kinda sexy, would pick one up used when they get old.

>>62064602
Report back after

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>>62064640
done it

>>62064656
Well it is at the correct slot now but it is still Single Channel which is wrong since you are using 2 slots. Make sure you are putting them in the correctly paired slots. Check your mobo manual.

>>62064683
will do brah

will report results

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>>62064557
Is it really that bad? There is also some on the cooler, obviously

>>62061004
>Fuck, the monitor industry markets 1440p as 2K. Know what resolution 2K is? 1080p. They just didn't market 1080p as 2K, so they decided to use the 2K term for 1440p to market it by associating it with 4K.
1080p isn't 2k and 2160p isn't really 4k even though marketers love claiming otherwise.

>>62064694
Remember to turn on XMP.
The proper results should read 16 gb dual channel 1599 mhz

>buy 8GiB of RAM a year or so ago for £35
>decide to upgrade to 16
>£82
never mind

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dj47h
How is this build?

>>62064779
Generic as hell. Go ahead. Maybe get some cheaper shit but whatever.

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Do dual monitor setups usually lag? I got a 1080 gtx yesterday (upgrade from a 970) and got a 144hz monitor as well (VG248 from Asus). Now I kept my old monitor as well (s24c300) that runs 60hz max. Im connected on the 144hz screen with a dvi and the samsung with an hdmi cable. The issue is that whenever i transfer windows between screens or just shake/resize the windows i get a ton od lag and the cpu usage goes to about 50% (i5 6600k). If I dont do anything its fine. I have the latest drivers and all that jazz. Ive also tried setting hz to 120 to match the 60hz but it only helps a little bit and the lag is still noticable. Anyone know have an idea of whats going on?

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>>62064729
i fucked up thought i had them in slot 1-3, turns out I had them in slot 3-4.

I'm a retard I know

>>62064779
>>62064804
Oh yeah you have a stock cooler so you don't really need the evo so you can save some cash there.

>>62064779
I'd change the PC mate for a Tomahawk. more gaming-features on an otherwise identical board.

Consider a Cryorig H7 over a 212 Evo.

Add an HDD for mass storage. 2TB or more.

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>>62064815
There you go nice and easy. Now your build is running at max. We have almost the same build as well.

>>62061945
You should be getting 60fps(or more) on average, but 4c/4t is no longer enough for consistent 60fps.

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>>62064873
its a decent build.

And cheers bro for the advice I'm alright with most things PC build related its just the little things I fuck up on.

>>62064262
>If VRAM usage is below 3GB the difference is like 1-3%.
More like 10%.

>>62064913
Yeah. I got the 7700 and all the stuff cheap from a friend who wanted to go Ryzen so he sold me his stuff. Monitor is pretty good as well right? Anyway enjoy your build.

Is it normal for my gtx 1080 to idle at 50-60C?

>>62064779
Here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBmG8K

>>62064960
do you live in the desert or have a small case?

>>62064557
Make sure the fan is actually spinning.

>>62065008
I have a sharkoon vs4w, normal case i guess, it has a scythe 3 on top of the cpu, my last card idled at 40. I read it happens to people who have a 144hz and 60hz monitors but i have no idea how to fix it. The gpu clock is idling at 1683mhz

>>62065042
Which model?
Dual monitors?

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>>62065053
Here is my speccy

Its a dual monitor setup

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How come speccy is showing 20 degree higher cpu temp than literally any other program I use to check it for my ryzen1700x? Also why does it show 3GB for several 1080ti's?

>>62064963
Appreciate it anon

>>62054211
of course, it's a mac.

>>62065087
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/942288/very-high-idle-clocks-on-gtx-1080-with-multiple-displays/
Known issue where your GPU idles at a higher clock speed if you use 2 monitors with different frequency. However, this issue should be fixed with the new drivers. My build is here >>62064873 and I don't have this problem.

Before you complain about >muh drivers, AMD has the same issue as well.

>>62065094
Speecy is buggy with Ryzen. Use Ryzen master. Same applies for 1080TI. Use GPUz.

>>62065181
Ryzen Master actually uses up a bit of the cpu so the temps rise a bit whenever you boot it up. I use Core Temp or HWMonitor (which is also quite finicky with Ryzen) instead.

>>62065141
What drivers are you on? Im on the ones releases 24/8/2017 version 385.41

>>62065292
Still on the one version previous. Waiting for proper reviews before upgrading.

What is a good/cheap keyboard and mouse? Prefer to buy from Amazon and newegg and price range is preferably under 30$

>>62065373
You okay with wireless?
Then probably the microsoft keyboard and mouse combo. It is a little pricey at 40. Otherwise Logitech.

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Is there any reason to get G-Sync with a 1080p 144hz monitor on a GTX 1080? I know monitors last a long time, and don't want to rush into it, but they're so much more expensive than a comparable monitor without it.

>>62065433
Depends. What is your screen tearing tolerance?

How's this clueless build?

I'm already on the verge of spending more than I want to, so if you know about cheaper stuff that does the trick tell me so. Will mostly use it to play some classic games - though I'd like to try stuff like PUBG.

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>>62065458

>>62065407
I don't mind either way

>>62065433
yes
1080 will dip below 144 at 1080p

>>62065480
>1500x
No. Get the 1600.
Drop the CPU cooler and use the stock.

Get 2x4 GB instead of 1x8 GB

>570
Overpriced. Too overpriced.

S340 is a slightly cheaper case

>>62065491
G sync doesn't matter below the framerate cap.

>>62065489
Logitech MK345 Wireless Combo

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>>62065453
Somewhat sensitive, I guess, but I've never had a monitor that wasn't 1080p 60hz. Heard tearing is much less noticeable at higher refresh rates, but never seen it in person.

>>62065491
Is it a worthwhile premium? The two monitors I was looking at were something like $140 different in price to come attached with G-Sync.

>>62065534
What games do you play?
Tearing at higher resolution is much less noticeable. Honestly, I think G-sync is worth the premium if you are getting a fancy monitor (4k60 or 1440p144). For 1080p, getting G-sync seems overkill. For all you know, AMD might shit something out which is good in 2019 and then when you move to Navi, you won't have wasted 140 dollars extra on a 1080p monitor.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202282

>>62065586
>570
>280 dollars

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>>62065576
A lot of MOBA/"brawler" games like Battlerite, which I know the card won't have any problem maxing out. It's mostly the AAA titles I play sometimes, like Witcher 3/Nier Automota/Dark Souls/etc that I was looking at it for.

Did you mean tearing at higher refresh rates? I've only seen a 1440p monitor in person once, so I don't really know.

>>62065601
the point is it's in stock and isn't sold out you twat price has also come down. Was $330+ before

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>>62065586
>tfw you used to be able to pick up a 1080 for $400-$440 on a sale
>now that would barely net you a 1070

>>62065644
Higher refresher rate = more frames per seconds.
Which means the tears "flicker" appear for shorter periods of times.

>>62065646
Still overpriced and absolutely not worth buying. At all.

>>62065688
Sure, I gotcha. The post quoted just mentioned tearing at higher resolution instead, so I wasn't sure if that's what they meant

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>>62065497
The weather here can get to 35ºC, is that alright?

>>62065716
If it is a 1080/144, G-sync isn't needed imo. Get sync if you are getting a more more expensive monitor. Unless you are really sensitive to tearing. Or you can't handle the "input lag" from Vsync.

That is my opinion

>>62065739
It is fine. Just don't overclock it too much. Monitor your temps and if it gets too hot, you can buy a 212 or H7 next month.

Make sure your RAM is on the motherboard QVL.

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>>62065751
Thanks anon

>>62065458
>>62065480
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzkLZ8

>>62065739
Post link

Which 1440p monitor should I get?

It's either gonna be
>Dell 24" S2417DG at 165hz or
>Dell 25" U2515H at 60hz

I've used 144hz for years now and I don't know whether or not switching back to 60hz is gonna be an eyesore but I also feel like that extra inch in screen size would benefit me since scaling on 1440p is going to be different.

Anyone have any experience with switching from 144hz to 60hz? Was it painful?

I haven't owned a desktop PC in 10 years.

Would there be anything wrong with this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dbCJLD

>>62066035
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9VFTLD

>>62066154
Can't you put more money into better RAM?

The PSU is overkill

>>62066141
I hope you have a 144hz monitor.

>>62066224
for now I'm using two LG 27MU67 monitors, not 144Hz though.

i have a my build done

but whats a good desk? I want something compact and a little cheaper, but still good.

>>62066116
Pretty sure you're gonna notice the drop from 144hz to 60hz significantly more than you're going to notice an extra inch of real estate

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/McBmtJ

This is my build atm. Anything that should be changed?
I am planning to upgrade to ram to 16GB 3k at a later time.

Which GPU should I choose? Probably a GTX 1060 6Gb right? Which brand do you guys recommend?
My Budget for the GPU is around 350€.

>>62066271
Then the 7700k is not worth it.

>>62066402
>My Budget for the GPU is around 350€
Gigabyte GV-N1060AORUS X-6GD

>>62066610
>350€
>1060
i refuse to believe prices are that fucked

>>62055134
You may get a bit more storage. Keep the ssd for booting purposes tho.

I just got an SSD I intend to install my OS on. At what point in the process do I configure it as the boot drive, before or after installing the OS?

>>62067190
What do you mean? It doesn't matter when you change the boot priority but nothing will happen if it tries to boot to it when it's not bootable. The disc/USB/whatever you're installing from should have a higher boot priority anyway.

So does vega 56 have a release date yet or have partners just given up on it at this point?

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>>62052640
Hello anons.

>krauts undervolted and overclocked vega 56 to the point of beating a 1080FE while saving 73 watts
How did AMD manage to fuck up so bad? Why couldn't it just do that out of the box?

>>62067339
I had a fundamental misunderstanding of how this entire thing works. I googled it. Thanks for pointing out I was being dumb.

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>>62066179
Something like this?

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Is a $15 power supply a bad idea?

>>62067677
Yes, get something like a cheap EVGA 750 for $60

whats the best 34'' ultra widescreen monitor right now?

>>62064557
What cooler are you using?

>>62067726
Depends on what resolution you want. I received my LG 34UM68-P this week and shit's been a dream.

>>62067677
Is it being intentionally marked up and then having a million discounts applied?

I guess you would be cautious even if you got it for free.
I'm not saying you're wrong nor defending Rosewill but where is your caution taking you?

Any recommendations on a GPU that can be used for general computing operations beyond the gAyyyyyyming meme?

>>62067677
For an unrated Rosewill? Yeah, probably.

Also, do you guys actually mail in your rebates? I feel like I'm 50/50 on getting them to work.

>>62067768
8400GS

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>>62067768
Get a Radeon HD7750 cheaply if you can fine one, it's got the power to accelerate my Sony Vegas but it runs on the PCI-E.

It's also really cute.

>>62067672
Much better.

>>62067768
Integrated shit or just buy some random $20 Nvidia GPU.

r8 my autistic build. Aim was to get new PSU and case but use shitty cheap parts on everything else in case I break something as this was my first time building PC.

DP965LT mb : C$35
intel E8400 : C$8
Apache cpu cooler : C$11
two 2GB DDR2 rams : C$20
radeon hd 4850 : C$45
evga supernova 750W : C$170
generic atx mid tower : C$50
OS: gentoo linux

fan noise is kind of annoying but everything is working perfectly. now that I know what I'm doing maybe I can move on to more high end build next time and start binge gaming again.

>>62067798
Nice, Also
>1 Pcie slot.

Perfect for a server. Thanks mate.

How are m2 ssds for a little home server
Do they degrade significantly with 24/7 uptime?

>>62067959
are you one of them libreboot fags

I'm not falling for you being anything else but

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https://www.amazon.com/Intel-3160-Wireless-Bluetooth-Supports/dp/B00IOS19E6/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503598316&sr=1-2&keywords=INTEL+Dual+Band+Wireless-AC+3160

Is this a good WiFi card for my Asus X552C? I need to change my MT7630E because it doesn't work on Ubuntu 16.04. I have a double booting machine with Windows 8.1 on it as well, I need both OS.

r8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QhzyM8

>>62068082
If you properly configured your os all the logs and misc system activities will happen on your tmpfs and significant degradation will happen with your user activities only. So unless you are updating large movie files daily you might be ok?

>>62068159
It feels nice to be in control after dealing with shitty hp laptop boards with random ACPI bugs. open source firmware is just added benefit, it wasn't my main goal while building this.

>>62068211
stop being poor ,get a cheaper psu

>>62068211
If you're not getting at least g4560, you might as well save a bunch of money and get a kaby lake celeron.

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>r5 1600 @ 3.7
>16gb @ 2933
>go any higher on either and its crashy as fuck
did i lose the silicon lottery?

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Is 50 mhz and an extra fan worth 10 extra eurobucks? I'm comparing pic related.

>>62068438
If you're already spending that kind of money, might as well.

>>62068438
The more fans, the better. Or something.

>>62068466
>>62068476
It hurts to spend this much on a GPU that's worth about 100 less, but I desperately need an upgrade.

>>62068430
Pretty much

>>62068466
>>62068476
On second thought, I can get an RX 580 for 100 less than the 1070. I feel the 1070 would be overkill for ultrawide 1080p and the RX 580 is a nice middle ground between the 1070 and 1060. Also my display has freesync. Would this be a better choice?

>>62068438
I think it has enough cooling to OC to its max potential even with only 2 fans so you would be wasting money

>>62068672
rx 580 is still overpriced and has terrible price/perf ratio. only buy it if it costs the same as gtx 1060.
more fps > freesync

>RX 580 is a nice middle ground between the 1070 and 1060
what middle ground? 1060 and 580 perform basically the same

>>62068870
A lot of benchmarks show it having a pretty big gain over the 1060. But I think I'll just go with the 1070 for future proofing and more raw power for unoptimized games.

>>62068672
No, 580 is good for 1080p@60Hz, for 21:9 1080p you're looking at a ~40% pixel increase over 16:9 1080p. You're going to want that extra performance from the 1070, it's definitely the better choice.

>>62068920
Yeah I think I'll just get the 2-fan one and overclock it once it starts struggling.

I got a 1050ti and a FX6300, I can get a Pentium G4560 for cheap in my country (any other CPU is not an option sadly).
Should I get it?

>>62069179
Damn Anon, an 8350 isn't even an option? 2 more cores that will do all of 4.2GHz just by turning it up is nothing to scoff at.

>>62052640
Requesting assistance. Have a budget of $800-900 and would like a computer to work on for school/gaymen. Was looking into a Ryzen 5 1600x with an RX 580 and (maybe) 16gb of ram. Any advice for good mobos with the 1600x? Also any advice for good but affordable ram? I don't plan on OCing, and basically gonna leave everything else at stock as well.

>>62069249
stick with 1600 no x, comes with its own cooler and the 1600x is basically just a factory overclocked 1600

>>62069263
Okay, thanks man. Any mobo/ram recs? First time builder, but been meaning to for a while now.

>>62069249
>R5 1600x
Get an R5 1600 instead, it comes with a stock cooler so you save money.
>RX 580
Haha, no. Unless you find a decently priced prebuilt and just don't give a fuck. 1060 6gb instead.
>maybe 16gb of ram
I'm gonna go against the norm here and say you can squeak by with 8gb but there's no reason to gimp your build like that.
>mobo
The MSI B350s are perfectly fine.

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>>62069281
something with a b350, make sure it fits the case

also corsair and at least 3000mhz ram, ram is one of the cheapest parts anyways

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

pic related cost ~1050 without monitor

>>62069318
i reeeaaaaaally do not like the MSI bios and the beta versions are unstable as fuck

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Really want a new gpu, I'm not too bothered about crypto inflation as i don't really want to wait months to buy one, although waiting for new architectures may also be a good idea
my budget is a little over 500 good boy points.
I'm currently limited with my 760 for rendering and vidya such as rust, pubg, etc
g wat buy

>>62069318
>>62069325
Thanks /g/entooman. Appreciate it.

I have a z170 mb and a i5 6600k currently, I'm getting into content creration and was wondering if it would be worth it to upgrade to a i7 6700k or 7700k? The 7700k is currently on sale at frys for $300 and seems like a good deal. My gpu is a evga 1070, and I also game a bit.

>>62069458
Forgot to add my cpu cooler is the trusty hyper 212 evo, but i replaced the fans with 2 Noctua NF-F12 fans.

>>62069333
Cheapest 1080 I've seen was $520 at newegg I would go for it if i were you.

>>62069404
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901

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>Ether has rebounded back to over $300
WHEN WILL THIS WILD RIDE END SO I CAN ACTUALLY GET A DECENT CARD

>>62069333
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880&cm_re=gtx_1080-_-14-125-880-_-Product

>>62069507
Rip idk man its gonna be a while, i want to build a decent htpc but have been waiting for the prices to drop as well. I could put my 1060 3gb in it but its a waste.

>>62069496
>>62069513
opposed to a high end 1070 with stated better clocks?

>>62069591
You could always over clock the 1080

How much of a house fire is the 7700k compared to a 6700k? I just started getting into content creation and already have a i5 system and could just upgrade my cpu.

>>62068672
The 1070 is about 35% stronger than the 580

>>62068672
Go for the 580
The 1070 is "only" 35% stronger and freesync is nice

>>62069601
you could overclock the 1070

>>62069601
>>62069684
>not overclocking the 1090

>>62052908
answer me!

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>>62069817
Pleb

>>62052908
>>62069982
why should you be fucked? it's a decent card

>>62070035
Maybe he paid way over MSRP, who knows.

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Talked to some people and they emphasized the importance of an ssd. How do you think pic related compares to >>62067672.
Also, maybe a better psu?

>>62069458
Well? Is the 7700k worth it for $300? I don't plan to overclock it. Or should I just get the 6700k

>>62070007
><60hz
great meme, but your monitors are shit

So between a 1300x an a 1200, the 1300x is a better choice, right?

>>62070223
PSU is fine, get faster RAM.

>>62070749
><60hz
Do you know what < means?

>>62070223
get the 250gb samsung evo
ssd's are good, but even bettrr if they're not slow af homie g

>>62070750
Only if you want like 100mhz more

>>62070035
>>62070178

Didnt really research it before buying, cost me 450 euroshekels, which is pretty good price here. Now I see its one of the first batches and has kinda low clocks. So my question is, will this OC like the newer 1080s? Will that one power cable hold me back? Is there any difference between first batch 1080 and newer ones?