Is Windows 7 still a viable main OS in 2017?

si

>>62035403
Oui

Дa

はい

evet

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No

>>62035403
כן גוי

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>>62035403
Installed it an hour ago and installing updates as we speak :^)

>>62035403
Yes it is. But keep in mind updates will be over by 2020

>>62035403
No, only if you use an iso image made after they patched wannacry.

>>62035403
Yes. 3 more years of official support and I'd say 10 more years of common sense support

>>62035504
>Updates
dumb frogposter

7 is the standard in corporate and professional environments for years to come.

>>62035553
You can use older iso still. Just install recent antivirus and update your windows after instalation.

But about thread, windows 7 is still viable main os. No fatal privacy issues, runs still recent games and software, no "antidarvin" shit. And it still feels like older windows.

>>62035504

> Updates

Telemetry Service Pack

>>62035403
Is it still getting security updates? If the answer to that question is "yes," then go ahead and install it.

No.
Windows was never viable as a main os.
Now its even worse because 7 is old shit.

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>>62035504
Why didn't you slipstreamed the updates on the iso from the get go?
Now your install will be almost twice as big as a clean install.

>>62035403
Still used by most businesses, some have started upgrading to 10 however (everyone skipped 8 because it's trash)

Kyllä

>>62035403
yes, it should be your main os instead of botnet 10

>>62035487
hayir

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>>62035403
it's OK now that they fixed the windows update taking 100% of CPU thread bug. but between circa 2014 and november 2016 (a long slice of which had the free upgrade to windows 10...) it was near-unuseable on older hardware.

Windows 10 LTSB, Telemetry can be completely disabled, verifiablely so.

>>62036059
ağzına sıçarım lan

>>62035504
Enjoy 50gb OS

>>62035785
Antivirus is placebo, bloat and malware itself.
Updating windows is a pain.

>>62035808
some fine folks have made a script to remove known telemetry updates

>>62036098
this.
inb4 poo-in-loo-botnet-meme.dll.tar.gz

>>62036098
I thought it didn't honour group policy settings?

>>62036098
An outright lie. It doesn't even claim to disable telemetry fully any more. The 'Security' level makes it clear that some data is still sent, and that's just from the overarching telemetry collection. Many other individual components transmit data in their own way, and no amount of turning off settings and tinkering with the GP editor will stop them. A firewall will catch some of them, but even then not all.

>>62035403
If you enjoy ransom, yeah why not.

>>62035940
>Almost twice
>Not even close to twice

What's the easiest way to mass download all of the safe Windows 7 updates so I can make my own updated .iso?

>>62036141
>known

the unknown ones are the problem

>>62036631
Wsus offline

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>>62036102
gibe imam bayildi & topkek pl0x

also kavaklidere

also rate muh qt kedi

>>62035403
Better than 8, 8.1 and 10 for sure.

>>62035487
hayir

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>>62036098
[citation needed]

>>62036098
>Telemetry can be completely disabled, verifiablely so.
If you keep repeating that it wont become true, anon.

>>62036098
It can be set to lower than the rest but not disabled completely

True

>>62035940
>(((Lower is better)))
FTFY thanks for telling me how to interpret data, these are the same people who will say cheaper is better

7 is ok in 2017 as much as 95 was ok in 2016

>>62035403
yes

예

Bai

>>62035403
>Is Windows 7 still a viable main OS in 2017?
I would recommend windows 8.1 and if you don't like the tiles/apps install the windows 8 start menu , it will turn your windows 8 into a windows 7 with the start menu and you get extended support over windows 7.

はい。

نعم

>>62035403
no tak

>>62035403
hope so. i still use it as my uni,shitposting OS

yes
though for haswell and newer lack some driver support out of box I think

>>62038608
patently false

http://www.pcgamer.com/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-81-updates-on-kaby-lake-and-ryzen/

>>62035403
Absolutely viable if you don't want winjew 10

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>>62035403

>>62036680
how do you know they exists if you dont know they exists?

sure
but unless you play games why bother with windows?

>>62039463
Linux has games tho

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>>62036098

>>62035403
honestly, yes. For a few more years at least. at any rate, it's better than 8 or 10

>>62036279
If you don't configure it correctly like the twitter rant guy then of course it doesn't.

>>62036347
>It doesn't even claim to disable telemetry fully any more
It does. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
>You can configure telemetry at the Security level, turn off Windows Defender telemetry and MSRT reporting, and turn off all other connections to Microsoft network endpoints as described in this article to help prevent Windows from sending any data to Microsoft.

>>62037072
>>62037040
See above.

>>62037060
Same can be said about you.

>>62039537
true, but not all games

>>62040224
>It does
Yeah, good luck with that. Try disabling all of the telemetry and monitor your traffic with something.

>>62040324
I did. Did you?

>>62035403
it's viable for most tasks but eventually you'll be forced to upgrade because dx12 only games and vendors will start making software exclusive to windows 10

>>62040224
How much do you get paid per post, Pajeet? I've locked down Windows 10 as much as is possible and still see things randomly trying to call home via my firewall, let alone what's going on at a deeper level, hidden inside other processes. Windows 10 is spyware. Its entire business model is based around collecting data on its users. Anybody who thinks that it can be "turned off" is delusional, or getting paid to pretend to be.

>>62040333
Prove it, nigger.

>>62040333
What you monitored it with?

>>62040410
>Windows 10 is spyware
Agree, but let me correct one thing for you.
>Windows is spyware
There, all better now.

>>62036098
>Windows 10 LGBT

>>62040410
>I've locked down Windows 10 as much as is possible
You obviously didn't.

>>62040421
A pcap file as captured by virtualbox that only contains local network broadcasts is the best I could give you but I didn't save it.

>>62040424
See above.
>b-but it's designed to detect virtualbox and hide

>>62040513
what did you exactly do to achieve telemetry free winblows? last time I've checked ltsb was still making connections to Microsoft

>>62035403
It's the last good Windows Microsoft has made. Aside privacy issues and botnet complaints aside, my main gripe with 8 and 10 are the completely different UIs and options Microsoft has changed for some reason instead just sticking with what works.

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how does this makes you feel shills?

>>62040611
See >>62040224
If you just set the level to security and disable msrt and defender telemetry as mentioned in the article you've gotten rid of most of it.
Other connections you'll see aren't really telemetry.
For example there's a persistent connection used for push notifications akin to what google has on android. Any app can use that service to push notifications without maintaining a separate connection. There's a group policy that disables it.

Other than that I just disable web search, cortana and the lock screen spotlight bullshit. I leave updates, connectivity checks and such enabled.

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>>62040761
>>Other connections you'll see aren't really telemetry.
lmao, so you dont even try to hide you cant configure it yourself to not send anything

>>62040759
use whatever shit OS runs on your toaster

but do us all a favor
if you connect it to the open web, shoot it and then yourself, k?

>>62036098
>LTSB
that's really cool anon. It would be even cooler I could install my memevidia GPU drivers on it.

>>62040832
id rather not connect from 10 than 7, my data is more safe this way

>>62037399
LOL, right through the truth

>>62036135
>updating windows sucks ass
it truly does, I hadn't updated my windows 7 in years, now that I actually want to update it is taking a long time to catch up

>>62036135
t.malware.provider

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>obligatory Linux is better
>obligatory meme.jpg

No, install Windows 10

>>62040792
Looks like you didn't check the article I linked to.
You can disable all the other connections and there's detailed instructions available.

The point is that just by toggling three settings you're free from actual telemetry. The rest are used for functionality that's not data gathering.

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>>62040877

>>62040910
>The rest are used for functionality that's not data gathering.
Of course, anon, of course :)

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this article really activates my testicles

>>62040877
Linux is a good operating system if you don't game
My desktop runs Kali Linux
However I find it far easier to use windows on my laptop for school and such

>>62035496
ken goy?
fuck you

>>62035808
You can disable that, no more eating up your bandwidth & eating up resources on startup.

>>62036141
Scripts aren't even needed if you want to do the "step-by-step" process manually.

>>62040968
Considering 2/3 of my game library runs on Linux (and the other 1/3 are kinda shit) I use it for gaming too.

>we should be getting a new Windows by now but Micrococksuckers are still trying to shove 10 down our throat

>>62041043
>what it takes to add a dropdown
So there's a .cpp file that defines the behaviour and a .xaml file that defines the look of the UI.
If you want to add a new dropdown of course you're going to just copy the piece of .xml that defines it elsewhere and simply change the entries.
Same for the callback, it's mostly the same for every dropdown just with different ids.
String resources are required for localization. The only issue is the sequential id requirement.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or unusual about this process.
If you've ever worked with Android you'll know that it works exactly the same except that it generates resource ids for you.
The green guy is just retarded.

>>62041063
Do you us WINE?

>>62041088
android works like that because it was build to work like that, windows wasnt

>>62041103
Every recent gui framework separates code from design.
WPF and UWP both use xaml to define the look of the user interfacs.

>>62041195
this is a c++ code, have you ever worked with microsoft's c++ frameworks? they are so shit that they themself actively try to kill c++, yet they write all new w10 features in it

>>62039537
if u only like casual shit sure

for the rest of us windows is the only option even steamos is completely dead

>>62041225
>microsoft actively trying to kill cpp
https://moderncpp.com/
Educate yourself.

>>62041270
Define casual shit please

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>>62038618

>>62041285
anything popular like team fortress

devs only release their shit on mac linux etc if there is demand if there isnt its just windows

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>>62041270
Excuse me.

>>62041433
All of that is casual shit.
You could've at least installed Dota to offset the casualness.

>>62035494
wtf i hate windows 7 now

>>62041422
>dwarf fortress is casual
>roguelikes in general are casual
>Divinity original sin is casual
There are a pretty decent number of games on steam that work on Linux, many of them not super popular AAA garbage. Clearly, your definition of casual is flawed

>>62041448
>Insurgency is casual
>Chivalry is casual
>CS:GO actually is casual but everyone else wanna play professionally
>Dota 2 is also on Linux

???

>>62041448
What isn't casual then? What hardcore games for hardcore gamers such as anon does anon need on Windows that are definitely not popular and thus not casual?

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>>62040759
>Windows XP still above 8.1

Holy shit, truly a garbage OS, not even the shills want it.

>>62041521
>>62041547
Dota is on Linux, that's why I suggested installing it.
I didn't really read the reply chain, just the casual part.

>>62041576
Well if you didn't read the reply chain you're missing out on anon getting btfo, no one is arguing DotA being on Linux or not

>>62041587
Neiher am I. I suggested installing it because
1. everything on the list is casual
2. dota isn't casual
3. dota is available on linux

>>62041606
>dota isn't casual

hahahahah i would reply to these but nvm just realized that everyone here is a filthy casual after that shitty screen

>>62041606
What isn't casual then? DotA? Is that it? Is that all you play? If anons argument is "only casual games get ported to Linux" and DotA is on Linux, logically it follows that DotA is casual

>>62041629
Now I'd genuinely want to see you make a list of non casual games.

>>62041633
I'm neutral here. I was just saying that anon's list of games was a bad example of "non-casual" games on Linux.

>>62035940
what poorfag can't afford a 1, 2 or even 4tb hard drive to install majestic Windows 7 on?

>>62041661
What makes his list casual? What makes DotA not casual?

>>62040832
Stay buttfrustrated shill.

>>62041558
I use XP on a netbook.

>>62041606
>>62041661
There are a few non-casual games on Loonix and that piece of shit moba isn't one of them.

MOBA = Retardation for mentally handicapped people.

Now you can kill yourself.

>>62035940
>that pic
way to make a moot point faggot

>>62041703
>i tried playing with humans but my teammates bullied me into abandoning

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>>62038234
>recommending windows 8

>>62041703
>Anon wasn't a third party all along
>Twas merely an act
>Gets btfo even while pretending to be someone else
>>62041742
Not an argument. Now answer my questions
>>62041682

>>62040759
I would be part of this if I wasn't falling for the game dev meme and needed dx12

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>>62041448
>Dota
>Not casual
I bet you've never touched an actual strategy game.

>>62041811
Make the switch before you're in too deep

>>62041742
I don't play mobas or jrpgs, I play games that require real skill.

>>62041752
>Gets btfo even while pretending to be someone else
>being this new

Maybe learn to use 4chan so you know who you are quoting? That was my first post.

>>62035504
>>>>>>>>updates
what did he mean by this

>>62041850
>I don't play mobas or jrpgs, I play games that require real skill.
Being 6 digits in osu doesn't require skill, anon.

>>62041869
I never played osu, keep trying to guess.

>>62035403

it most certainly is if its airgapped

i use an un updated daz loader win 7 2009 image for audio production

nothing beats airgapped win 7 if you want to torrent and run every cracked pro-audio program under the sun ... i stopped counting when i would of need $100k to use the tools im running

>>62041850
regardless, what games do you play?

>>62041887
>torrenting
>airgapped
???

>>62041891
Multiplayer?

Worms Armageddon with endless mods
Quake Live
Unreal Tournament 2004

If the game doesn't require good motor skills it's shit.

Anyway, mobas suck at both, you don't need either motor skill or to be intelligent, its strategy is baby tier.

>>62041940
>Unreal Tournament 2004
Is this still active? I'm going to go find my copy in the basement

ye

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>windows 7 will die in your lifetime

>>62041940
good choice in games and i agree, mobas are trash. Now where is that anon that claimed Linux was for casual games only?

>>62041940
>If the game doesn't require good motor skills it's shit.
That's the same kind of elitist bullshit you probably expect from moba players.
Why did you switch to VSRGs then?

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>>62041962
Not nearly as much as in the good old times, but there are still some servers in the US and Europe being the most common TAM, Freon, DM and iCTF

My latency is shit because I live pretty far away

>>62041930

yes torrent on my *nix machines and copy to my win 7 machine on external HDD

win 7 is great when its being used for productivity and never connected to the internet

>>62042036
didn't*

Win7 fanboy here. After giving Win10 a try, I can tell you all of the shit it gets isn't just a meme. I've had games that worked just fine until an OS update came and broke them.

>>62042036

Pro Moba players are full of themselves, they are elitists about a game that is shit, I don't mind the people that play it for fun.

Yes Quake players can be obnoxious sometimes, but the game is hardcore and most people doesn't know how to actually play it properly, it requires strategy, reflexes and good motor skills to master it like few games do.

>Why did you switch to VSRGs then?

I play some now and then (not osu in particular), but the variety in the gameplay is very limited, I could not play one for more than a few hours without going bored out of my mind or actually start getting mad because the "difficulty" reached autistic levels, which is basically the same patterns but faster.

I almost go insane with Super Hexagon (not a scroller, but the premise is similar)

>>62042200
Quake "strategy" is just knowing when pickups respawn. Reflexes and good motor skills are an actual element in the game though.
You're probably just as shit at mobas as "most people" are at Quake. You didn't reach (or tried to) the point where strategy and reflexes start to matter. Good motor skills are arguably not as necessary in that genre but it definitely helps you gather information faster.

>the variety in the gameplay is very limited
Looks like you never played any gimmick maps/charts/files

>>62041940
>motor skills
>in vidya
Ahaha what a faggot

>>62041043
>lol look this guy said AHAHAHAHA a lot it must be showing how bad MS is but i don't understand the content of the image myself
t. you
There's nothing unreasonable about the process the guy described, he sounds like an angry brainlet.

We had these same threads with the same responses by assblasted XP fags a few years ago as XP reached EOL. "hurr 7 is shit im using XP forever" "if i have to stop using XP ill just use linux instead" "XP works fine in 2013 bro"

Then they all disappeared overnight and now they're rabid 7 users, and the same will happen with 10 eventually. Windows users have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a new version but eventually they'll come to like it (and then they'll refuse to upgrade again saying the current version is the best ever and nothing will surpass it). Hell, it's not uncommon for people to say that Vista wasn't even that bad now.

If you already have 7 installed there's no point upgrading yet, but I wouldn't create a fresh installation of 7 now.

>>62041324
Use an anti adblock killer you idiot.

>>62035403
If you are not using new hardware yes.
New CPUs don't support it anymore.

>>62041674

>installing your OS on a hard drive in 2017

Fucking windows XP is still viable depending on what you wanna do

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Who here going to buy Coffee Lake and still use Windows 7?

>windows
>ever

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>>62035403
hi

>>62043029
>>62044772
shill harder pajeet

http://www.pcgamer.com/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-81-updates-on-kaby-lake-and-ryzen/

>tfw still using XP
I have 3gb of ram so there is literally no reason to upgrade.
XP is comfy

>>62035403
>Is Windows 7 still a viable main OS in 2017?
check security news about it. I didn't like something, so i switched

>No fatal privacy issues
Try googling this

windows 7 in a linux VM

once its EOL ill just use WINE and reactOS for legacy stuff

>>62035403
It's W10 with better UI and worse performance in newer games.

>>62045023
7 doesn't have a better UI than anything.

>>62045313
Lol Windows 10 baby mad 7 has no ads by default

>>62045343
noone is talking about windows 10 except you

>>62045407
The anon above the post I replied to was talking about it

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>>62035403
Where can I find a decent .iso that's cracked or whatever the fuck the term is?
I just want to run it in virtualbox to play some VNs that don't work in wine

>>62045450
Just download clean image with Windows Iso Downloader and get DAZ's Windows Loader from piratebay

>>62045462
Unless I'm doing something wrong, the windows iso downloader page requires a windows key

>>62045486
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool

Probably

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How shady is this?
Should I do it?

>>62045504
Using this you will be in both the American and Russian botnets, I do not advise using it.

>>62045424
what makes you think that just because he doesn't like 7's UI he likes 10's UI

>>62045556
What do you suggest then?
I can't use >>62045491 because I'm on linux

>>62045504
Read the comments

>>62035403
For me yes

>>62041448
Underage goes here >>>/v/

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>>62041270
>no games
Steam
GOG
HumbleBundle
Browser games
Emulators
WINE
KVM

Yes, you have only 50% of the games available on windows, at least without KVM which gives you ALL windows games. But do you really need all the shitty games exclusive to it like pic related?

>>62045568
He's a pajeet

>>62045313
Windows classic in 7 is better than the flat design shit in 10

>>62041558
10 would end the same way if ms didnt force it on 7 users, the best thing in it is that ms still cabt win with 7 after that

>>62035403
>2009 kernel
>still a good thing in 2017
some retards actually believe that.

>>62035403
I'm still using it just fine.

>>62046011
No it's not, Windows 7's classic is hot garbage because half the glossy/glass aero UI elements are still there and it all clashes horribly. Without ricing it is literally impossible to have a decent looking 7 installation.

>>62046155
>impossible to have a decent looking 7
This is why aero is there. It's the most beautiful theme they have, other than XP

>>62040761
>Other connections you'll see aren't really telemetry.
Nice try Bill

Microsoft Windows 7 is good stuff, gang

>>62046101
>the best thing in it is that ms still cabt win with 7 after that
2 years after 7's release XP still had like 60% of the market, shifts in market share among Windows versions always move at glacial speeds because most Windows machines are things like company computers and school computers that are lucky to get replaced/upgraded once every ~10 years. You'll probably see a huge dropoff in 7's market share as it gets closer to end of support as happened with XP.

>>62036102
orospu cocugu koca gotlu

>>62046179
>he likes le glass ribbon meme
>he actually thinks the fisher price xp theme is not only good, but actually the best
I'm sorry about your blindness anon.

>>62046140
ramlet

>>62045724
hahahahahahahaahahaha 50%?? where? on steam? probably not even among their super popular titles

and valve tried hard to push linux, go look at their linux adoptions, they are probably lower than VR at this point, VR btw is one of those things that had windows "exclusivity" for a very long time because everyone use and develop for windows as their main platform so they kept postponing it, if i had swap my OS like this, just because fuck MS? id be constantly missing on a whole ton of stuff, it isnt worth it at all, ms has this monopoly for like what? more than 2 decades or something? u truly need some serious miracle to change this

PC gaming on itself is a lot more than Steam and shovelware, but if you are a casual thats probably more than enough catalog for the rest of your life anyway

>>62046277
>monopolies are good and I won't do shit about it
Kys

Just installed windows 7 and used ancille to get rid of "known" telemetry updates. This is on a laptop used for uni so I'm unsure whether to actually stick with this and not use Linux


If Linux, which distro should I choose?

>>62041324
have been using adblock for ages and recently switched to ublock and couldn't be happier.
Still kinda don't want to give up on Noscript for that fresher addon

>>62046289
what the fuck can i do

until there is something new, it is how it is

>>62046301
Use something else and stop giving a fuck about "muh exclusives"

>>62046293
Solus

If not, any distro with budgie wm.

it just werx

>>62046293
ZorinOS

>>62046315

Doesn't look too bad even with the "Software centre"- I know this is actually preferable for linux.

How about IDE support?

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>>62046293
>If Linux, which distro should I choose?
Depends on what you want. If you're just looking for a replacement for Windows 7, you'll want Mint.

>>62046336
Sublime Text

>>62046336
>IDE support
I think everything other than Visual Studio runs on Linux.

>>62046227
10 already peaked and its dropping, those are hard times for shills

>>62046313
sure
thats why i bought a 1500usd hardware, to not make full use of it

i dont see how this industry could change at all, especially after steamos

>>62046357

That's the issue, though. I may be doing WPF development in the future and afaik nothing on Linux allows it

>>62046227
7 after 2 years had like 35%, 10 has only 25% and its slowing down

>>62046293
slackware is perfect for novices

>>62046429
Well, pretty much all my coworkers buy shitty Walmart budget laptops with Windows 10, intel i3s, and 2-4gb of ram. Imagine my shock when those shitty laptops are only barely able to handle Windows 10 out of the box. A year later, they typically either have to restore the system (if they know how), get a new laptop (more likely), or ask me what they can do, at which point, I install Linux Mint, get them set up with basic shit, and copy a tutorial/guide I made to help them get started.

Turns out that they wind up preferring Mint to Windows 10, and when they go to upgrade again, I show them this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCj7KKqyOSo

And a link to prices on ebay with an i5, 8GB of ram, and an SSD for less than what they would pay for their "budget" laptops.

Once they jump ship, they don't have much interest in going back.

>>62046365
>windows raping your hardware for telemetry is making full use of it
Linux is much more efficient though, even with telemetry "disabled".
>mentioning steamOS
It was a literal experiment. Valve fucked it up even more by allowing 10+ different steam machines to be made.

>>62046664
>Linux is much more efficient though, even with telemetry "disabled".
Drivers still suck balls.
Literally no advanced functions available on linux with graphic cards and sound cards. Windows is obligatory if you want to do dope shit with your hardware.
Who really care about windows efficiency when every single benchmark is higher on windows than on linux.
Imagine if windows was optimized for performance. Your crappy OS would be dead and burried.

>>62035403
Got meme'd into installing 10 LTSB.
desu it basically feels like this
>>62041043
Compared to 7 or XP or even ME, it feels really mangled, like different teams did different shit then put it all together and shipped it untested, it's all over the place about how it looks, what it wants to do vs what you want to do, and where things that should be actually are, not to mention the horrible mess that is the "apps" or telemetry, that pic really sums it up, the have too much money and believe they have a monopoly on the OS market, so they'll just keep "innovating", google is drifting the same way with android too, albeit being much much smarter about it.

There is absolutely no reason to use 10 over 7 other than DX12 and that's a meme in and of it self.

oczywiście
3 capchas

>>62046756
>windows isn't a crappy OS
Grow up retard. It's the shittiest "personal" desktop OS. It's literal malware and should be outlawed.

>>62046824
If only Linux got pushed by major software and game devs.
Wait how is Steam OS doing?

ok /g/, been back on windows 7 for a while because I was having problems with some compatibility on windows 8.1, now how do I get rid of the obnoxious gpu memory warning and forced disabling of aero on a dual gpu setup? all the tech illiterate posts on google either say to disable the compatibility service (predictably does nothing) or to disable desktop composition which isn't a solution at all; to be clear it's not a resource issue, <1.5gb vram used on a 4gb card is not an issue, it's a hardcoded limit set and only makes sense for gpus from 2009

>>62046837
It's perfectly fine, kid

>>62046824
No softwares and no drivers is a good reason to drop this shit.

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>>62046857
Sure it is
>Steam big screen OS.

>>62046861
American botnet is a very good reason to drop windows tbqh

>>62046837
steam boxes were handled spectacularly bad by both valve and the third party manufacturers trying by to offer something like a htpc/console setup for the price of a decently specced low/mid end pc - plenty of people have tried, and failed, to push the pc as a console/couch gaming setup on windows as well

aside from that steam and gaming in general on linux is better than ever with all valve games working brilliantly and plenty of third party developers taking some serious time and effort to port and optimise games for steam, and with amd finally getting their shit together with amdgpu and vulkan being less niche it's only up from here

wait what the fuck am I talking about, clearly I mean linux has no gaems

>>62041823
>an actual strategy game.
Just because DoTA was made on Warcraft 3 doesn't make it an RTS.
MOBA is a shitty name, but it's accurate to give that kind of game its' own genre, and there's nothing casual about playing it 16 hours a day, to win that tourney next month.

>>62046883
beside not being able to do what I want, how will this change my life?
I won't make shitty comrpomises like that for no good reason.
The US harvest data all over the world ? They want total control over the world ? Good for them i couldn't care less, at my scale doing whatever the fuck I want is more important than some global schemes that won't ever materialize into something real.

>>62035403
Taк.

>>62044829
>No Windows 8
Fucking shit

>>62047139
Win 8 is shit. Win 8.1 is better.

>>62047170
Win 8.1 is vastly inferior to Win 8 in all the ways that actually matter.

>>62035403
It never was.

>>62047209
such as?

>>62047292
They destroyed the mouse drivers in 8.1, They turned the Download folder into a system folder, added more useless shit no one was waiting for.

>>62045504
Go to link and if you don't see the skull, go away.

If you hate telemetry bullshit, check these sites:
http://forums.pixeltailgames.com/t/windows-7-8-windows-updates-to-avoid-telemetry/9977/2
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30348398-WIN7-Win-7-updates-to-avoid-or-be-careful-with

>>62046140

is there any way to get the flat w10 ui for win 7?

>>62047325
>Win 8.1 is vastly inferior to Win 8 in all the ways that actually matter.
Lol, i knew you would be unable to name even one.

>>62040910
>The rest are used for functionality that's not data gathering.
What a good goy!

>>62047480
there were a few mods to get the flat win8.1 theme onto win7 so I'm sure a few exist for win10 but can't help you out other than suggesting google

>>62047596
Several new network connections appear when I install a package with apt. How do I prevent that? I thought Linux didn't have telemetry.

>>62047606
Nope, Gadzooks/Lunatix is also the botnet. Install CP/M for a safe user experience.

>>62047606
yes, i also noticed that apt connects directly to linus's home pc

>>62047606
I'm also proud of /g/. You made this obvious "gotcha" post, and only got two joke replies. At least I hope the CP/M faggot is joking.

>>62041823
>>62041703
>>62041850
>>62041940
I don't enjoy contributing to video game discussions on this board, but you're delusional if you think dota is an easy or casual game

I've played a huge variety of RTS FPS and MOBA games and dota is definitely one of the most difficult if not the most difficult of all of them

Starcraft might be on par with it but I haven't played it at a high enough level to say as a fact, but quake is definitely less difficult than dota

>>62035403
对

>>62036716
>better than 8.1
I personally agree with you, but that's still debatable. 8.1 was actually good.

>>62041748
8.1 =\= 8

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>>62041748
8.1 you dweeb. it's obvious you don't even know your shit and you're just parroting stuff you've misread like a mongoloid poser.

>>62041811
Use Vulkan, shit's easy to port to linux.

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8 hour battery life on windows 10
5 hour battery life on windows 7
3 hour battery life on ubuntu
1 hour battery life on arch
you can't explain that.

>>62041811
Yeah. Waste all your effort into something that almost no-one uses and is failing

>>62049530
Proof or you're just a lying piece of shit

>>62047325
>They destroyed the mouse drivers in 8.1
wow dude... i mean, you don't even try at this point to sound plausibly retarded

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>>62049530
4 hours on windows 7
3.5 hours on windows 10

>>62045392
use offline updator anon
just pick security updates

>>62049916
The telemetry was hidden in security updates, you dingus

http://download.wsusoffline.net/
once you download the updates keep them on a drive incase you have to install again.

>>62049939
windows 7 you dingus

fuck windows 10

>>62049955
I'm talking about 7. They added all the botnet trash to 7 through ""security"" updates, on top of the excessive botnet that was already there (fuck off if you think any Windows is ever ""botnet free"", look up _NSAKEY that shit has been backdoored since the 90s)

>>62035403
>implying it ever was a viable main OS

>>62035510
My nigga

>>62035403
>Windows
no

>>62049995
nsa key doesnt send anything over network

Barely

>>62035403
no but it's actually the only usable windows available. 10 is cancer, idk why ppl use it.

>>62035940
You forgot to subtract hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys dingus.

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It's the ONLY viable main OS in 2017 desu

>has support for gaymen
>has support for pretty much all applications in existance
>respects and cherishes your privacy
>developed by actual whites rather than poojeets

No reason to ever use anything else, i'm still personally hoping for some custom security fixes coming out to keep it viable post-extended support thruout the 2020's heh (think like a community-driven third party MSE-type solution with weekly updated definitions and shit)

>>62040759
The same trend can be seen on steam usage stats right now btw, (((win10))) is literally the new vista at this point and people are rightfully dropping it like a hot potato

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really enjoying these updates

>>62035403
hell fucking yes it is. 10 is a botnet, 8 is retarded without 3rd party software, and everything before 7 is dead as of april of this year.

>>62051622
>>respects and cherishes your privacy
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck off with your antiquidated OS, pajeet.

>>62049995
Who gives a fuck. The NSA exists to have access to everything. Its there job and they're good at it. So tell me what do you believe they don't have access to?
You?

>>62051665
After the initial surge of new users when a new version comes out growth slows down considerably, it follows the exact same pattern every time.

>>62051744
>Who gives a fuck
>the absolute state of nu-/g/
and that's besides the point, the point is there's no such thing as a windows OS that respects your freedom no matter how much MS shill propaganda you've bought into (yes, MS still shills windows 7 because it's easier to sell as a "secure" OS despite being just as much spyware as 10). watching windows users argue with each other over who is slightly less cucked than the other is truly pathetic

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>>62051788
7 had no slowdowns, 10 is the only os in ms history to actually lose market shere when being the latest

>>62040482
doesn't that mean /l/g/bt/ should install it?

> using windows at all

>>62051850
>7 had no slowdowns
yes it did, it even lost ground to XP a few times in 2011

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Where is this major market share loss?

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

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>>62052089
>The article talks of installing “Linux”, but the context shows it is really GNU/Linux that users install.

Yes. Having to manually add USB3 drivers to the boot/install was a pain for a brainlet like me though

>>62036071
You could easily work around that, however. Lots of alternatives to the OOB Windows Update client.

>>62051834
i wasnt shilling that it respected any freedom.
i was shilling its better than windows watching jew 10 edition
actually all i said was here is a way to update it offline

>>62040759
>tfw using win8.1

No if you want to use NVMe.

>>62053994
https://ftp.hp.com/pub/caps-softpaq/cmit/whitepapers/Windows_7_OS_Install_NVME.pdf

>>62054213
You know what that doesn't install? TRIM support.

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>>62035403
No but I want to sell my laptop and so I need to install some version of windows for selling it to some normie.
Winfags are brainlets anyway.

>>62040834
Why can't you? I rub ltsb with a 1070... No issue

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>>62043497
>installing X on Y after 2010.

>>62049995
>letting Microsoft install those security updates
The nice thing about Windows 7 is you don't have to install those updates, and they will stay uninstalled

>>62035403
I still use Windows XP

>>62035403
Vista, yes.

>>62040224
>>It doesn't even claim to disable telemetry fully any more

It's a barefaced lie. Windows 10 at this point breaks if you ever get it to a point where it's not phoning home. There are so many organizations that are failing the stricter data control requirements because of this, they just go back to 7. Windows 10 is a privacy nightmare.

>>62058124
So is allowing Google search in your organization but people still do that

>equating a search engine with the actual literal operating system which all the end points have installed

Pls

>>62046664
the "full use" i mentioned was about having access to content, ive never seen a big title, indie, or even something in between, coming for linux only, that literally never happened, EVER

and as far as i know the performance thing is a meme, framerates are just the same or worse because they still need to work on their drivers, and if u got a gaming rig like mine with tons of ram and a fast ssd then windows just cant it slow down at all, even with a ton of useless shit running at the same time, my boot times for example only last 2 seconds

the steamos thing was just a monumental fail, not even taking into account the steam machines because those just appeal to literally no one, i still dont know what valve meant with that shit

>>62035403
Gno

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>>62058778
>I still don't know what valve meant
They realized Microsoft cannot be trusted