How many Linux fanboys actually use Linux as their primary OS?

maybe 2 or 3

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>>62020194
My go-to OS. Wiped windows 7 off a laptop to install ubuntu. I run DNS, DHCP, NFS, and apache at home all using linux. Just installed the android SDK to give it a spin. Did you fall for the mac meme or something?

>>62020194
I didn't used windows for a few months now, and still don't feel like I should.

>>62020194

I do. I use Debian stable. Thinking about moving to Slackware. I know it's not believable to many that some would use Linux as primary but it depends what you use your computer for. I use it mostly for music and writing. I hardly play games anymore.

single OS, not even really a fanboy

>>62020194
Since botnet10 I'm not using dualboot anymore.

Solely using Linux distros hasn't been unfeasible for a while. I use Windows for compatibility and I've already started missing it since the rough edges started getting sanded.

>>62020194
I have used arch as my primary os for three years now
still have windows 7 for some vidya when i feel like it once a month or so

>>62020194
>Primary OS.
None. Linux is a kernel.

>>62020194
>he doesn't have his own company he runs on antergos

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>>62020194

Yep, at home and at work
Not even kidding

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>>62020194
I don't use it, I just meme it to laugh at the idiots who fall for it and post frustrated rants.

>>62020194
I only use Windows because I am not a communist.

>>62020690
Which is 99% of what an OS is, retard.

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>>62020194
Majority of this board is probably larping nowadays.
I don't really like any of the kernels to be honest, but I will always choose Linux and BSD over Windows NT and Darwin any day.
Been using linux for about 3 years now and never used Windows since then. BSD for about 2.

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>>62020194
Yeah? I have a Windows partition in case a game comes out that I want to play that isn't available on Linux but that's rare these days. I mainly play Indie titles now as I've gotten bored of the same rehashed shit that's in most "triple A" games. If it meets all your needs, Linux is great. But that doesn't apply to everyone. So maybe I'm not a fanboy?

>>62020194
I do. It's like an addiction after awhile. Got Proxmox, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Desktop, and 4 Arch installs on bare metal, and a ton of utilities and specific use distros virtualized. Every day I struggle to justify keeping my Windows computer. I can only rationalize it with the amount of effort and time I put into pirating all of the games I have.

>>62020194
I uninstalled Windows in 2007

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>>62020194
I do, but I have a confession to make.

I'm not a Linux fanboy. I don't use it because I think that Linux is good. I use it because I honestly think that Windows has become completely fucking unusable. For me at least. If Microsoft would release a version of Windows that has no bullshit attached to it, I might reconsider dual booting again...

>>62020194
I only have Linux on both my computers. Ubuntu Mate on my home pc, and Arch on my laptop. I do all my work on them, never had a single problem. The only reason I had Windows in the last 4 years alongside Linux (wiped them like 6 months ago) is that I was recording music and my very old sound card didn't have drivers for Linux (also the recording software is not on par with Cubase). When I get a new computer and sound card I'll put Windows 10 on it but only log in that for recording and video editing.

>>62020194
I used to, but I don't do now :(

Windows is trash tho, we only use it because we are forced to. Windows is like throwing up... Most people would not have anything to do with it unless they are compelled to.

>>62020612
If you use LibreOffice for writing, I recommend you use this slackbuild:
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/office/libreoffice/
It's easier and faster to get installed (at least for me).

Used Linux for 2 years then gave up because life is too short to edit config files to get everything working after an update again.

Arch - laptop
Arch - dekstop
Debian - home server

Abandoned windows years ago.

>>62020612
Games? I play games on linux. Mainly CS:GO but all my steam games run great, minecraft, WoW, etc.

>>62020690
OP here, I actually called Linux an "OS" on PURPOSE to piss off a fanboy. Looks like it worked!

>>62020194
Fan boys don't do anyone any good. I just use what I find to work best. Been on Linux for over 3 years and it's a good time.

>>62020194
I do fool around with Linux on some old machines, but I can't afford to have it as primary OS on my daily driver because I do actual work on it.

>>62021086
you would ever need the duckduckgo extension?

>>62021161

Thank you very much for that. I was just tinkering with Calligra, but will try this too. I like Libre Office.

>>62021323
What is your "actual" work? I fix computers using the incredible amount of utility available on any Linux OS.

Only on my laptop. Nneed windows for schoolwork and i would dual boot but my wireless adapter is a broadcom chip so linux is borderline impossible to get it working on

>>62021336
yeah, i hate accidentally using google

their searches are becoming... weird to say the least

>>62021385
just go to about:preferences and set the search engine to duckduckgo, there's no need for any extension

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>>62021371
>What is your "actual" work?
I'm a CPA.

Closing in on 20 years. It all began because Microsoft wouldn't let me use SMP (dual celeron was the shit) and the TV card (win95 drivers only) I had at the same time.
I write this on a Gentoo install nearly as old as 4chan.

>>62021399
i know

but whenever i go there i get this urge to delete google, and i do use it occasionally when i search for android or work related stuff

>>62021413
What software do you depend on? O365 would have decent (?) support for Excel i you needed that.

Doubt quickbooks/quicken or any of that stuff is compatible.

>>62021443
with ddg you can use google too
try it
search "
!g using google
"
they're !bangs

>>62020994
Well the gap with Linux and Windows games is shrinking. More developers are supporting Linux now. The irony is also that it runs better on it than on Windows in certain instances.

https://youtu.be/yXr8bqzf45Y

This video is a great example of Linux being able to play video games relatively well even on the newest Graphics cards.

>>62021466
nifty

>>62020198
go to /g/catalog
ctrl+f
enter "Linux"
32 matches
so maybe 32?
dunno just spitballing here but 32 seems like plausible number

>>62021485
it's harder to pirate them tho

>>62021055
are you me?
Using Linux since ubuntu 7.04

>>62021522
It's not hard if you go to places, lad. ;^)

>>62021522
That is true but like everything else the more people on the platform the more possible things will be to get will happen. Right now Linux has an install base is 2.3% while Apple has 3.1%. if Linux ever surpasses Apple that would be huge enough to get people to come over.

>>62021106
Just dual boot if you have to.

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I do, bitch.

>>62021611
gnome is really nice. would use it more if I could easily tile windows with keyboard in it.

>>62021560
there's a few games on rutracker, but even if you get them, it's a pain in the ass to handle the dependencies and shit like that

>>62020194
me, faggot

>>62021628
Super+←|→|↑|↓
It's still kind of shitty tho, there's some improvements on gnome 3 tho

>>62020194
Not as primary as only fgt

>>62020194
Primary and ONLY

>>62021457
Excel, Outlook, AnyConnect, CaseWare, SAP, Lync, some other stuff...

>>62021632
What about searching for dependencies on official website or steam?
surely there should be somewhere a list

>>62021708
yeah... that wont happen anytime soon. fair point

>>62021652
yeah, it is shitty...
I use custom keybinds for easier navigation in GNOME without mouse, but it's just not same as wm...
But from all DEs GNOME surely is best one.

>>62021652
gnome 3.26*

I use Qubes with a Win7 VM routed through a locked down firewall. You wouldn't believe the garbage that it tries to phone home with.

>>62020194
I use it as my only OS. Why?

>>62020994
>I mainly play Indie titles now as I've gotten bored of the same rehashed shit that's in most "triple A" games.
I never understood how "there are very few triple A games for Linux" was supposed to be an argument against using it for gaming. I get MORE entertainment out of indie games than I do out of AAA games.

>>62020194
not sure what fanboy is supposed to mean but yes i do use debian stable primarily at home, a few exceptions like my pfsense firewall, might have a few centos servers sitting around, and a couple windows computers for the occasional game or just messing around with

I do.

>>62020194
Debian on desktop, Void on laptop. I've been using Linux as my only OS since 2004.

>>62021804
Makes a good argument in that they're not holding a person back. I too find indie titles being the only way to experience fresh gameplay. Better (imo) games for less cash on my native platform. Can't beat it.

>>62020588
>endorsing canonical

>>62021228
>implying all Linux users are ricers

>>62020194
Not even really a 'fanboy' but while my workstation is a modern Mac, I often interface with it remotely at least 60% of the time from an old Thinkpad (pre-ME era) running Debian because I like the keyboard and form factor better.

linux itself is not an OS.
also me
i uninstalled windows 10 a while ago and havent had any reason to go back. not a single reason.

I do less and less gaymin on PC as time goes on. All I used windows for is my online classes, I use my laptop running Arch for everyday use.

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>>62020194
I use Debian as my main OS. Linux is a kernel. I haven't used any Micropoo products in nearly a decade because they're shit.

>>62023134
i dont know man, DX 12 isnt that bad

>>62021086
how come you don't use windows 10 ltsb in that case?

>>62023174
it's awful

I only use Linux. When I go to work, a non tech job, I run Windows 7 in virtualbox. Other than that, I run Linux exclusively

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>>62020194
I use it as my secondary OS because I use OpenBSD as my primary OS.

>>62020194
still use nt5 and 10, most of my development is cross-platform now, and assumes linux, do all my nt-dev in a cygnus or msys shell anyway, end up doing ports a lot

>>62020742
>Which is 99% of what an OS is, retard.
That isn't gayest shit I have read today but it's up there.

>>62020194
count me in

>>62021403
good man

at least you kind of know what linux is doing when it's installing updates

windows is just for the full retarded

>>62020194
Solus is pretty good
> inb4 shut up kevin

>>62025698
Kevin, please stop. You're a good kid, don't throw your life away so recklessly

>>62020194
I haven't used anything but Linux in 5 years.

After switching my os to Ubuntu at work I've pretty much fully embraced Linux at home. I do still have a windows laptop for the games that I never play.

next time I have the money to build a new pc, I can finally make the switch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI

>>62025958
If your pc can run windows, it can run linux.

>>62025977
true, but I can't run a windows vm with natural pci-e video passthrough for games

I do. Games are for children. Only things i miss are photoshop and lightroom also i could import raw photos straight from camera on Mac. Now i need to use SSD card reader.

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ofc

I used Linux as my primary desktop from 1993 to just recently. I put up with the abomination that was GNOME 3 for 5 years and finally called it quits. Now I use Windows 10 for my personal systems. I still have to use Linux at work, which is fine, I only use the terminal and a web browser for work anyway. And Slack (ugh, KILL ME NOW I FUCKING HATE SLACK)

>>62020194
I haven't had a Windows install outside of a VM in ~8 years.

>>62025505
OpenBSD > FreeBSD > Windows > GNU/Linux

>>62026712
>OpenBSD > FreeBSD > Windows
true
>OpenBSD > FreeBSD > GNU/Linux
true
>Windows > GNU/Linux
weak attempt at bait

>>62026740
I'm not joking. I've not enjoyed any GNU/Linux distribution I've tried. Debian, Fedora, they're all shit. The least shitty was OpenSUSE, but even then.

>>62026759
>implying there's a difference between any of them
I know you're just an baiting shitposter, but I'm interested in how you defend this one
>Windows > GNU/Linux

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How many Windows fanboys actually use Windows as their primary OS?

>>62026684
>Putting up with gnome 3 for years, when you don't like it.
>Not just changing your desktop environment which takes 3 minutes at most
>You'd know this if you actually used Linux for over a month, much less a decade
Nice false flag

>>62026794
On Windows, things work, even though there's nothing you can do on Windows since it's not Unix, unlike on GNU/Linux distributions, where things are broken.
Of course, you can have a Unix-like that works, and that'd be most BSDs.

>>62026837
>things are broken
like what
apparently you can't even use GNU/Linux and you expect me to believe that you can get your way around BSD?
BSD is even more "broken" than GNU/Linux for desktop stuff

>>62026810
Post fyw most of them use Android as their primary OS

>>62026810
Most of them

linux fag here but Windows has a MUCH broader use-case than any Linux distro, like... that's a reallly dumb question

>>62026913
I'll give you something broad to use
*Unzips dick*

>>62021228
Somewhere off in the distance, Bruce Perrens whispers "Debian"

>>62021279
>Jokes on them i was just pretending to be retarded

>>62026904
>BSD is even more "broken" than GNU/Linux for desktop stuff
Stuff just werkz on BSD. I can compile shit without needing to download a fuck ton of random "development headers" and my audio drivers don't suddenly fail me.

>>62021403
Wait... People ACTUALLY use Gentoo?
I thought it was just a meme...

Like sure portage is cool but why?

>>62021533
I first tried linux with Ubuntu 11.04, maybe it was 12.04, anyway it was the single worst piece of trash I have ever run before or since

Would kernel panic constantly, I thought it was just because I didn't know what I was doing but it was a legitimately terrible release. Now if you ask me Ubuntu has never been good, nor has anything based on it. Head and shoulders better than windows to be damn sure, I didn't really LIKE linux untill I first tried Fedora, but these days I'm on Debian and I'm probably gonna stay here

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>>62020604
>I didn't used
These are the type of people that use Linux as their main OS.

>>62021573
We only broke 1% a year and a half ago, the more people switch the faster we snowball.
>>62023134
>Linux is a kernel
Fucking STOP with this Free Software Movement, you lost the war of words. Just because Every single person who installed the gnu coreutils didn't start sucking your smegma encrusted cocks doesn't mean your contributions weren't important, or that people don't acknowledge you. You know when people say I run linux, they mean gnu/linux, and when people say I run the linux kernel, then and only then, are they talking about the fucking kernel. God damn.

>>62026925
How would you unzip your dick?
It wasn't large enough to warrant compression in the first place

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>>62020194
Use gentoo as my primary os, tried a lot of distros in the last ~5 years, even tried freebsd, still, gentoo is the most usable one, at least for me, cuz i mostly do software development and browse web

>>62020194
I use Linux Mint as my daily driver. The only time I use Windows is an offline 2005 HP Slimline with WinXP Media Center Edition. I use it to do encrypted backups onto the hard drive via iTunes. Fuck using iCloud.

>>62020194
I personally haven't really used windows since 2006. I have multiple modern computers that run linux too, but I mainly use this one, since I'm just a web dev. Its suits my needs, the screen is huge for a laptop, and I sometimes plug it into my monitor.

My desktop runs arch. But its used for server work. I've fine tuned it for maintaining my services.

My thinkpad x220 runs arch as well.

I have a banana pi that runs lubuntu as a mini home server.

My only contact with windows is are the school computers. I have windows 10 in a vm for when I need it. Which is rare, and when I do its because enviornment testing.

>>62020194
Happy Ubuntu user, since 2008, reporting in.

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>>62027149
pic is my normal setup...

>>62027046
Damn, that was rude. I can't help it I was born black

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xubuntu / win 7 dual
xubuntu primary, win 7 for ms word 2007 and other shit that only works on windows.

>inb4 jobless dipshits say "LOL JUST USE LIBRE OR WINE"

>>62027264
I haven't noticed any format problems when using .doc. .docx formatting is horrid, though. Don't know why job sites don't take .odt but still take .doc, but it works for me.

>>62027298
When you're building a 250MB close-out document with vector drawings and annotated block diagrams, and everyone insists on using ms word instead of latex, the formatting is FUCKED in libre office. Everything comes out entirely wrong.

>>62027447
That's fair. I was literally just speaking to a resume/cover letter, both one page each. No formatting issues that I can see there. If I needed to do what you needed to do, it would be worth having a pirated copy of Office 2003/2007 on a shitty Windows machine.

>>62020194
i have a pinguim on the top of my CTR monitor...(The gamming RIG; windowjew 7).
I have a laptop with Qubes ONLY.

>>62021086

are you me?

>>62021086
This. I'd use windows if it didn't fuck with me and my machine and having to mess with antivirus that makes it run actually a bit more like linux (passwords and user space/kernal space permissions) but with just more future exploit risk. I use older versions in vm's . Mainly for diablo1 and audio processing. The plan is video passthru with xp and older gpu's and no steam or anything. Just dvd's with old windows in a sandbox.

>>62027173
nice

>>62020194
I use GNU/Linux on all my computers. My desktop is running debian sid and my laptop and server are running stretch.

>>62020194
I switched to arch as my main os before I even got on this board for the first time.

>>62027264
You could just run it in a vm if wine doesn't cut it.

I dual boot Windows 10 and Manjaro. I'd say I use Linux 99% of the time and that's the conservative estimate. I keep windows there because every time I remove it I have to reinstall it months after just for some little tiny thing I need that can't be had in Linux. Unlike Linux, installing Windows is a drag so I just keep it there. Plus, as a technologist it's good to have multiple tools. Windows 10 isn't bad either.

>>62026958
We have that thread 5 times a day you faggot
Lurk more

>>62021403
What DE is that?

>>62031030
That's KDE Plasma.

>>62020742
You are disabled.

>>62031078
Looks pretty.

>>62025505
឴>we like to be cucked BSD
Yeah, I can't even stand debian with their approach to freedom. I'd rather use something that considers Stallman's freedoms important.

>>62026759
You didn't try Arch.

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>>62027030
I say it because it makes retards like you extremely upset. It's not Linux. It's the GNU operating system with the Linux kernel. Cry for me.

>>62021533
I started with SuSE around 2001
Gentoo 2004
Uninstalled Windows completely in 2007
Now on Debian, probably permanently

Just got rid of my last remaining wincuck installation
>>62033055
>>62033109
>>62033385

>>62026759
Poor taste

>>62020194
Fedora on my XPS 13

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>>62020194
It's more robust and reliable than Windows and also retains all of the technical features of 90's OSs.

>>62020194
That's a question better directed at Mac users

>>62034352
I can understand why people like MacOS. What I can't understand is why people use anything past Windows 7.

>>62034403
Windows 10 is just Windows. Windows 10 and 7 are both based off of Vista, and really aren't very different at all. Still not as usable as Unix for anything that matters.
But Win10 has some usability issues solved, like an improved terminal.

>>62034495
It has an app interface, spyware you can't actually disable, and updates that you cannot halt.

It's NOTHING like Vista.

>improved terminal
nani?

Downloading Zorin OS Lite as I type this to put on a 10 year old Toshiba laptop. I've tried Mint before but didn't care for it.

None, Linux is a kernel.
I've been using the full GNU/Linux operating system for everything except the occasional hour of video games after work for 1 1/2 years now. Fuck going back to Windows.

>>62034523
You can't disable spyware in any closed-source software, idiot.
https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf

>>62023174
DX12 is just an excuse to push Win10. Everyone knew Vulkan was coming and everyone knows it works on Win7.

Using Ubuntu in a VM. Work requires to get used to it . But it's quite comfy to be honest.

>>62026759
Maybe you should just go outside and skateboard then.

>>62027006
At least use the budget tier bait...

me

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>>62034591
at this point it's almost surprising when a game /doesn't/ work in wine

while i don't play games too much anymore, the ones i have tried have all worked fine
just picked up the FFX/2 remaster, this time i was a little surprised it works fine, as it uses d3d11, only problem i've seen thus far is broken alpha on textures

>>62020194
I'm inexperienced with Linux and I don't want to fuck something up. I may just buy a Linux laptop.

>>62020194
I do. I use Arch Linux every day, and I've completely wiped Windows from my PC.

>>62034739
I don't want to taint my pure GNU/Linux machine with Wine and nonfree software.

>>62034739
I wish I had that experience. Wine frequently shits the bed when I want to use it. (which isn't that frequently)

>>62034748
As long as you create proper install media, it's pretty damn hard to fuck it up. Works more easily than a Windows installer.

>>62034748
I started using Linux by dualbooting WIndows with Ubuntu, I bet the majority of Linux users started that away, just try it out.
Choose a distro from https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
Ubuntu derivatives such as Mint and Elementary OS are safe choices, but I would personally recommend Manjaro XFCE, it's very Windows like too

>>62034774
i have a preference for free software, but i'll use what's best for the job, i consider games to be a special case, as they're closer to artwork than tools. that is, they can't really be substituted for another
i run them under firejail, such that they can only have write access to their own single folder, they're effectively seperated from the rest of my system

>>62034777
be sure you're using the latest releases, preferably staging releases
also, use a prefix per game, different games might need different settings, and trying to make a single prefix with everything in it will just turn into a mess, using seperate prefixes is also just a lot tidier and easier to manage in general
also check out the gallium nine patch if you use free drivers (native d3d9)

I do.

Development on Windows sucks.

I used to double boot but now I'm all linux, all the time. Fuck Windows.

>>62034937
Already got all of that covered along with several of my own tricks. The only time I have good experiences with Wine is when I use fairly old software or 2D games that use common deps.

The whole thing pisses me off anymore as it seems like the project as a whole is falling behind tremendously.

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I don't play video games so I had no reason to use windows anymore. Linux is faster, comfier and actually trustworthy unlike windows.

>>62034983
maybe you've just been unlucky in the things you want to run vs. what is supported well
one thing for me is solidworks, it's the one single thing i still have a windows installation sitting around for
it's slow and unstable... on windows, letalone wine
i've been looking into learning bricscad, which has a linux version, to remove that dependency

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There's too much software on windows keeping me from fully switching, and the more I use windows, the less I need l ubuntu.

If I had a good replacement to all my software, I could switch, but I don't.

I need:
>video player
MPV would be fine but I'm too stupid to configure it. MadVR was easier.
>Music player
Foobar is just too good
>Image viewer
I just don't know what to use, I really like honeyview though so something similar
>Photoshop
Don't fucking tell me to use gay is my pingas
>Video editing

>>62034848
Well, whatcs best for the job is a dedicated machine running the games on the software platform they were developed for, which is powered off when not in use and independent of the rest of the system. That's basically what I do: Powerful hardware for just gaming, running Windows, that I only use for games and nothing else. Various laptops for work, browsing etc with only Ubuntu on them.

>>62021403
>no systemd

@62031131
Chinese gov't shill, pls go.

>>62035223
while i can understand doing that, and of course that is technically "best for the job", it's not terribly convenient
i don't play games often or competitively, it's not worth it for me to have a whole machine just for them
and there are things i use my machine for besides games that make use of good hardware, so using my laptop primarily wouldn't be ideal either

launching a game under wine and firejail is practically the same as launching a native application, it's feasable to play something for 5 minutes then go back to what i was doing, not so much if i was to use a VM/dual boot/other machine

>>62021279
I've called gnu+linux just plain linux for years. Then you fucking morons showed up.

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>>62026946
Fuck off already.

>>62026958
Why not?

>>62021611
>chrome

>>62021365
You can download the RPM/DEB or tar direct from the Libreoffice website. It's easy to install.

>>62020194
More than you think.

>>62020194
You winbabies all act like people who use Linux just do it to seem cool or are constantly wanting to switch back.
At this point, if Linux cost $100 a year to use and windows was free, I'd still use Linux.
Every time I'm forced to switch back to windows I feel physical pain at how long and convoluted basic tasks are. Not to mention having to constantly fight botnet features and getting forced to perform updates (which a multi billion dollar company still can't figure out how to do without locking you out of your computer while they take place)

>>62020194
I like linux , looks alot sleeker but.. MUH GAMES

>>62020720
>Linux
>A meme
It's only a meme when you don't do your homework on it and instead stupidly try to start with gentoo or arch. I plan to master Fedora first before moving to a different distribution.

>>62036445
>linux is not a meme
Sure thing, come back when you walk into any office and you see a single workstation running Linux, then we talk.

>>62034332
OS?

I do
also emacs is my favorite editor

I literally can't change my OS from Mint 17.

>>62020742
You can interact with only the power button

>>62020194
All the computers in my house are Linux except my wife's computer which dual boots winblows 10 for her work. I love linux. The kids love it on their laptops. No-one has any issues with their computers except the wife - whose laptop is basically slow, buggy and unreliable when she chooses to boot into Windows.

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Ubuntu + GNOME = Comfy

Just increased my Ubuntu partition from 30 GB to 430 GB. I think I'm sticking with this for a while.

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>>62037544
Best distro for being comfy <3

If your main task is shitposting and watching anime, Linux can easily be a main OS because even a cellphone can do that these days.

>>62037567
What distro? It looks beautiful

>>62037544
Gnome is shit

>>62037959
u a shit

>>62022089
They are putting their shit together now though, next LTS version is going to use Wayland and will return to GNOME as the default DE.

>>62020194
Ive used linux for almost 4 years exclusively and love it even if it breaks from time to time.

Absolutely no desire to install botnet10.

>>62037619
This. OP might as well have said, "How many of you are phoneposters." Desktop Linux is just phoneposting for people with bad eyesight and/or fat fingers.

>>62021253
Games are alright too, though Qubes doesn't support 3D acceleration.. yet..

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>>62023404
>ltsb
Because I don't have a fucking volume license, and I don't have an MSDN account to download the LTSB ios.

>>62038110
*iso

>>62020194
i have used linux as main and only OS in my hd in all my computers i am not even a dual bot fag because if i need to do a very windows specific task i can use virtualbox only dumb people or gamers are dualbot-fags.

I tried to give a chance to windows 7 some season but i found myself using cygwin, libreoffice and tons of open source not even used the official windows file manager in that point a realized i didn t even need windows.

Yes. I've never been an evangelist for Linux, but neither Windows nor OSX have anything particular to me that warrants the cost. I don't play games or use adobe products.

>>62020194
Emulation has got to the point that i dont even dual boot anymore just pure arch now.

>>62030405
Why not just use a VM?

>>62037544
>>62037567
Why do people use those giant docks stuck on the edge of the screen? It seems like such a waste of space, especially when you already have a panel at the top of the screen. Why not have a taskbar integrated into that panel?

>>62027264
>not working in pure LaTeX
absolutely impure

>>62037919
Ubuntu GNOME

>>62038461
Because I like icons.

>>62035150
>Needing to edit photos and video at a professional level
Every time. Seriously, am I getting memed on or do more people do this than I thought?

>>62039157
Anime board. You know this stuff doesn't encode itself, right?

>>62038628
Which environment would be best for customization?

>>62020194
already am using arch as my main OS, only run windows in a VM on occasion with GPU passthrough for games which is not very frequent. All my main activity is always on the host OS.
Dual booting is a pain since you have to restart and your PC is rendered unusable for a while when windows is updating or booting.
I hope a single GPU will eventually be able to run multiple OSes simultaneously without being passed through.

>>62026833
Except every other desktop or "window manager" available is WORSE than GNOME. I've used a ton.

Twm
FVWM & FVWM2
AfterStep
WindowMaker (used this for many years)
IceWM (couldn't get into it)
Blackbox (before Fluxbox and Openbox existed)
All the KDE versions except KDE 4 was shit
All the GNOME versions including 1.4 (GNOME was great until the developers decided they wanted to rewrite everything like the KDE developers did)
Ratpoison
StumpWM
Then scraping the bottom of the barrel with herbstluftwm, i3, dwm, spectrwm, xmonad, etc.

Plus so many I've forgotten.

>>62040340
whats wrong with i3

>>62040340
Install Lumina.

>>62027173
share ur wallpaper pls

>>62040395

obviously these are just my opinions, but:

1) tiling window managers are generally a problem for anything more than terminal and web browser because application developers won't change their ways to make things compatible. so you have to fire up some program and things just get in the way. sure you can switch to floating mode temporarily, but that's not a real solution.

2) I heavily use the integrations built in to the taskbar (for example using multiple VPNs at once), and it's not at all time consuming to set these up and manage them with GNOME -- I could use i3status and shell scripts, but honestly I'd rather be doing something else.

3) Xft support is bad, bitmap fonts are so much better unless you have a high resolution display. The bitmap support last I checked was broken in Fedora's package, and it's again a case where I don't want to have to keep building a fork of a package and keeping it up to date every time the Fedora maintainer creates a new one

>>62021086
I hear you brother. I started out a Linux fanboy, got tired of it and went back because Windows is shit. I still ise Windows 7 for games and some other stuff but it's mostly Linux.

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>>62020194
hi, I want to learn to use linux because I want to create a simple project with a raspberry pi zero. How hard is it to learn enough to customize the system itself?

>>62021533
>>62021055
>>62033805

How the fuck do you live without windows? im asking for real, i always dual boot to windows because there is always some fucking app that cant run on linux or there isnt a version for linux

>>62020194
only for tux(tux) gaem
yea, dux!

>>62041409
>blah blah windows too big
just move it to a new workspace cuckboi

>too retarded to use a simple i3blocks script
nice argument

>3) I can't install software properly
nice

>>62043435
about 43% hard

>>62043435
It's easy if you take your time and read. But if you're creating a simple project why would you want to customize the system? Just create the project
>>62043438
By finding alternatives or doing without, is my guess. Let me guess, you need the most recent Photoshop, or foobar2000, or Excel specifically?

>>62043472
>By finding alternatives or doing without, is my guess. Let me guess, you need the most recent Photoshop, or foobar2000, or Excel specifically?
No but i always end needing some fuckign obscure software sadly, for example i want to read SSTV signals, on windows on a fucking single search i got it easy, but on linux i found it too, but its extremely fucking outdated, cannot work or even compile, similar shit with other software out there

>>62020194
I use it as my primary OS, but I am no fanboy. In fact, I kind of hate *nix. It's just that other the alternatives that can run properly on a laptop are worse.

>>62043512
I'd just use Windows in a VM at that point, unless you're using that software all day every day. It can't be so intensive that a virtual machine would slow it down noticably

I had a really simple computer in 2012 and Manjaro was the distro I was curious to use that time. I'm using Manjaro since 2012 and is good see how the distro is growing so marvelously well.

I really love Linux.

>>62021086

>Manjaro

Mah nigga...

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I do and everyone who says "I love Linux man!" and doesn't use it as their main OS can fuck off in my opinion.

I don't like traitors! There is only one OS in your life and it should be any distro of GNU/Linux, live with the pain, start to love the pain, hate the pain, then love the pain.

Yeah I'm talking about Arch pussys.

It's hate love

>>62044281
if you think using linux is painful, you're not using a distro that suits you

I will dual-boot Windows 7 and some Linux distro.

Are there any good FLOSS operating systems that aren't UNIX?

>>62047538
reactos (windows NT clone), haiku (BeOS clone), menuet (unique afaik)

>>62047538
The closest thing is probably ReactOS.

>>62047575
>>62047538
also FreeDOS (MS-DOS clone)

>>62047575
>menuetos is FLOSS

Menuet64 Copyright (c) 2005-2017 Ville Turjanmaa

1) Free for personal and educational use.
2) Contact menuetos.net for commercial use.
3) Redistribution, reverse engineering, disassembly or decompilation 
   prohibited without permission from the copyright holders.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS, AUTHORS, AND
CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES,
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED.
IN NO EVENT SHALL VILLE TURJANMAA OR ANY AUTHORS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE
LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR
BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY,
WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE
OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE,
EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

>>62020194
Please make somebody mix of Linux penguing with Apu Apustaja.

>>62047678
my bad, i didn't look too much into it

>>62020194
2.5%

>>62020194
Linux anon here, I use Ubuntu mate now. Used mint back in the day. Also I use android

>>62020194
reporting in.
all 4 machines running linux, including my work machine.

>>62044281
>live with the pain, start to love the pain, hate the pain, then love the pain.
I just love what it does. Like shit, try cutting and pasting several large collections of terabyte files in windows and see how that goes.

>>62036594
One of my previous jobs had everything running Linux thin clients. Do I win?

>>62036701
Sure you can.

>>62038085
Yeah, Windows did plenty of breaking when I used it, so fewer breaks on something else isn't a big deal. Least Linux based stuff is good at telling a person why it broke so you don't have to guess.

I unironically have 6 devices running arch Linux, my university computers all run mint.

I haven't used windows in as long as I can remember

>>62039846
Encoding works out of the CLI. Did you mean editing?

>>62040254
While I too wish for such a thing, I suspect hardware would require an overhaul to achieve such a thing.

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>>62040340

>>62043438
It's really not that hard if you try. Just use your head a little.

>>62020194
windows 10 is not usable. I had to move on to a proper OS. I keep 7 as dual boot but I rarely use it, only for some uni stuff. Even my games runs at Arch since I don't play many AAA shits.

I'd use it as my primary OS if Blizzard supported it.

Currently usind Debian 9 (Stretch). Have been using it since it came out. Previously used Debian 8 (Jessie). Not complaining.

>>62020194
I dual boot but run linux (Ubuntu server 14.04) when I'm programming. I run arch or puppy on a bunch of shitty hardware I'm testing out.

>>62035150
>Foobar is just too good
Rhythmbox is exactly the same

>>62044281
You have to be 18 to use 4chan

>>62047575
>>62047578
He said good. Actually look into ReactOS, it doesn't even support printing

I use Ubuntu. Call me a brainlet, but it mostly works. I switched because installing libraries in Windows was a royal pain in the ass. That was before chocolatey was a thing. Plus Linux has very good perf tools. My friends all have Linux (mostly). It's hard using Windows when everyone around you has Linux.

90% of the time I only run Sublime Text and Chrome and Thunderbird for Mail. Occasionally postgres, QGIS, Adobe PDF reader, I get by.

Windows isn't bad, as a product. It is very polished, compared to Ubuntu. However, I do not like forced updates. I update a lot and frequently, but Windows' forced updates usually happened at bad times. I can't game because I don't have time for it. Also for ideologic reasons, I admit. I don't like monopolistic companies.

>>62020194
I do

>>62035150
>Photoshop
Krita.

If that doesn't suffice, there is always KolourPaint4.

I use arch even for muh gaymes on desktop
Ubuntu on a x220 for class

>>62020194
Manjaro and Debian here.

>>62020194
Windows on my desktop, Linux on my laptop. Been doing this for the better part of three years.

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Yeppers. Started using it regularly over Windows when I was doing bioinformatics work (data munging is pure joy in a decent OS). Never really went back. I just keep a Win7 partition around to boot into for games, which it undeniably does better. Photoshop etc - that's what VMs are for.

>>62026810
I do cause most of the programs I need for work don't work on Linux.

I like Linux, though.

>>62056229
Isn't Perl still heavily used in bioinformatics?

>>62056262
It's still around, but really R and Python are the things now.

>>62056221
I do this as well, been longer than three years. The only thing keeping me from going Linux on desktop as well is my job (work from home) and I don't have time to set up a VM and stuff on Linux and making sure it all works before the next work week

>>62037544
>off brand oreos
Go to hell.

>>62020194
I thought it was accepted as common sense to use a Linux distribution in your laptop, and Windows if you're into gaymes (updated, but with limited access to the internet).

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Writing up any program in Windows always makes me want to fucking kill myself. I am glad I switched to Debian.

I've been using it as my primary desktop OS for over two years. I actually have a second Windows partition but I never use it. When I need to use Windows, I load up a VM with Windows 7 or Windows 10.

On my laptop, I also dual-boot, but I'm mostly in Linux except to play Age of Empires II, Rise of Nations, or Path of Exile (all work under Wine but not good enough for me).

I would use Linux but my laptop has Dolby Digital Advanced audio and sounds like shit without the proprietary Windows drivers.

>>62027006
chill out, he missed 2 words

I didnt be used by winows

I have been using chickcharneywockey as my daily driver for a while, started with mint, then lxle, then debian, then arch, right now im on opensuse because I tried to install debian on a air, and ran into some complications

>>62020194
I have only used gentoo for the past decade. But the fact is, every current OS seems to be garbage. I haven't tried openindiana/smartos yet, and the last time I tried m*c was long ago, but wangblows is even worse today than before and it was already shit. m*c's proprietary closed garden shit and the desktop environment is cancerously bad. The BSDs are also complete jokes.
As for GNU, it was at its peak circa 2005, now it's all trash, what with the poetteringware garbage but also the fact all DEs are shit and all GUI toolkits are completely broken. Yet it has worsened significantly more slowly than alternatives, hence why I'm still with it.

SAVE
US

>>62056469
Fake and gay. Install Alsa.

>>62056417
Have you tried a vga-passthrough VM instead of dual-booting?

>>62056743
Nigga I tried to make that shit work for weeks. Tweaking audio settings, equalizers and audio backends. These speakers seem to have been designed to sound like complete shit from the factory and rely on Dolby to make them not suck.

>>62056780
Try installing alsa next time.

>>62020194
I do. I fell for the Gentoo meme about a year ago, and as I actually learned to use and maintain it, I found that I love it. It's unironically my favorite operating system.

I installed Windows 10 on another partition about 3 months ago, and while it's not bad, I have to admit that I've only logged into it once and haven't had a reason to log into since.

>>62020194
>Windows defender is a huge joke.
>Literally just a "sure you wanna do that?" dialogue prompt
>still a massive part of the operating system
How can something that's an obvious joke be just an integral piece?

If there's something insidious happening under the surface. Fuck Windows. It's literally unusable trash.

>>62057137
It turns out that microsoft employees are actually some of the most incompetent people on the planet. I too thought they were merely malicious until I started working for microsoft, but not so.

>>62027447
save it in odf and then print as a pdf

>>62020588
Ubuntu? Faggot.

>>62027264
t. never held a job

>>62038110
Just use KMSPico. It's not wrong to pirate if they don't let you buy it in the first place. Just create a fake account.

>>62057264
They're downright nasty if you criticize their shit products too.

Windows for gaymen
Linux for everything else/games that work on linux

>>62027006
He's clearly not a native english speaker

I do. I prefer it. It took a few years to fully transition to be as comfortable as I was on Windows, for sure, but the journey was more than worth it.

>>62057531
Depends on which organization. In my experience, IT is fully aware of how shit microsoft garbage is. Research also knows how shit everything is EXCEPT the products they personally work on.

I only use Linux and can't imagine having to use Windows as my daily driver.

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>>62020194

i am right now
using fedora

>>62020194
Enough

>>62020194
I do. I'm a shit distrohopper though because muh minimalism. Currently on Void, came from Gentoo. Void's p comfy, aside from next to no documentation and some issues with X in VMs.

>>62053641
>hate monopolies
>2017
>"don't be evil"

>>62052990
It's still the closest thing. I didn't say it was good, but it's as close as you're going to get if you want a non-UNIX free operating system that actually has some sort of software compatibility.

>>62058923
freedos is very complete and solid
it's just, y'know, dos. it's not limited compared to ms-dos, but it's still dos

haiku is pretty neat, but beos was never really popular, so there's not a whole lot of software for it to begin with

>>62057969
Me too. Can't get into a flow with windows. Too much waiting for it do whatever it is doing.

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I actually like to play video games, have proper video and audio editing software, and use Photoshop, so Linux will probably never be for me.
But hey you guys have cool desktops though I guess lol

>>62061516
Have a (you). Older versions of Photoshop work on Linux, it has a good and growing number of games (admittedly not AAA, but those are shit), and I'm sure video and audio editing software works on Linux as well.

>>62061516
If you have an intel processor w/ integrated graphics you can share it with a guest vm
Intel is currently rewriting the entire thing and it can only be used through VNC right now, but it used to be possible to use your primary display with it
I've yet to try whether it works with my discrete GPU if I pass it through as well though

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>>62027173

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I picked up Linux about two years ago now. At first it was just on my laptop but then I made the choice to dual boot Debian & Windows 7 upon building this PC a few months ago. Haven't booted into windows since. Not really sure when I will next as I find more aways around it.

>>62021403
Based.

What wallpaper is that?