>Poo company tries to outplay another company >Lies about

>>62009916
>amdfags will defend this

Rx outsold everywhere,Finished ? sure thing

>>62009965
RX makes sense for Minerfags but not Vega as it's a firehouse and too expensive.

>>62009965
Sold out everywhere because no one had enough stock.

HBM fucked them in so many ways.

>>62009916
>AMD making mining cards while Nvidia cards are made for gamers

Good, thanks for getting the fucking Minerfags off the Pascal train.

>>62009916
https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/status/899321072960512000

>>62011272
>mad because get free gpu
>buy it instead

BUT MUH AMD MASTERPLAN

>>62009916
They do it for good review, and people say Nvidia are evils...

>>62011272
>cuckz2sense
>relevant

>>62009916

I don't mind paying another 100 USD for Vega 64 since G-Sync monitors are 200 USD price premium compared to FreeSync monitors with the exact same specs desu

>>62009916
Waitfags hyped this shit up for two years. I cant imagine how assblasted they feel right now. The funny thing is they'll hype up the next gpu line from amd and it'll probably end up being rebrands

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>>62011272

>throws the free Thermaltake products on the floor and says that he is boycotting them during the AMD Threadripper unboxing video
>has no problem with Intel's anti-competitive illegal business practices

>>62011702
The dude is literally an nVidia shill though.

>>62011272

Atleast he targeted Radeon Technologies Group and not AMD as a whole.

>>62011699

Shit looks good to me, can't wait to get double the FPS compared to my AMD Radeon RX 480 desu

>>62011272
He is such a tantrum throwing cuckold.
Nvidia is shitting itself with the 970 mem disaster, its pricing and he just spergs out about this one...
He is such a intel/Nvidia fanboy.
Intel has so done so much to criticize, its pricing, housefire, being lazy and let ryzen rape them.

>>62009978
take a moment and read again what you just wrote br fag

>>62011272
He's had few videos supporting AMD like the 7850k one, but other than that he's been fairly against them.

A REVIEWER SHOULD NOT SHOW BIAS YOU FUCK

Since the "bundles" are only part of AMD's own offering, can't other OEMs undercut that?

Not that they would with mining driving prices up.

>>62011272
He likes the Ryzen, but I think this is a bit harsh for the Radeon.

>>62012434
Who the fuck cares about random youtube cunt baiting for clicks?

>>62011681
We're getting to the point where monitor companies can include Freesync in almost any model as a little bonus. Given the possibility that Freesync will be fairly ubiquitous i really think Nvidia can no longer ignore it.

I really wonder if volta will get say "oh by the way, we support free sync, but g-sync is better, really"
Ideally i'd get a Sapphire Vega 56 personally though.

>>62012470
Because we want competitive markets.
We want Radeon to have a little success so nvidia lower their overpriced meme gpus.

>>62012529
Competition has nothing to do with clickbaiting youtube cunts, anon.
Also Radeon will never be successful in gaymen markets, kids love Jensen's cock a little bit too much.

>>62011699
This would have been competitive 2 years ago but at this point it's strange that it even exists in the first place

>>62012554
Right now it's bigger Polaris.
Enjoy (while pajeet & friends are busy implementing NGG path)!

>>62009916
>be AMD
>be underdog
>Ryzen happened
>become a kike like Intel
And this, kids, is why you should never trust or give your loyalty to any company at all.

>>62012552
>Competition has nothing to do with clickbaiting youtube cunts, anon.
These reviewers actually can change the direction of the market overnight nowadays.

>>62012610
>These reviewers actually can change the direction of the market overnight nowadays.
No, not for GPUs.
Kids love nVidia too much.

>>62012626
Which is why we want reviewers to meme competition into the gpu market.

We know it's bullshit, but we also can't stand Nvidias ridiculous overpriced garbage.
Radeon could have prevented this, and they fucked up here.

>>62012643
>We know it's bullshit, but we also can't stand Nvidias ridiculous overpriced garbage.
>Radeon could have prevented this, and they fucked up here.
This didn't happen in past 8 years.
It won't happen now.
Enjoy nvidia's cock, dear consumer!

>>62012552
>It's the gamers fault for not buying a shitty product

What waitfags actually believe.

>>62012676
I am not talking about RX Vega, that one is blatantly unfinished.
I am talking about every previous AMD GPU lineup, HD4000-onwards.

>>62011641
He's got more viewers than you ever will.

>>62012656
I hate both companies and their duopoly. Stop projecting you intel shill.

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>>62009916
i don't get why they are fighting at two fronts. I feel like it's a historically shitty decision they made.

>>62011699
If I was still on my old HD7950 and had waited from the time of the Fury X release, like people had sprouted to do so (they, at the time, said wait for Polaris since its a node change) I'd be happy with the Vega I suppose, but as someone with a Fury X who pre-ordered it, I won't even consider changing over until at least the architecture after Navi, now.
Navi might turn out awesome, and if it does, awesome! But I still wouldn't get it because at that point I might as well wait until they refine Navi's architecture and get that instead.

I waited past the 290x/390x because my 7950 was holding out just about okay. I didn't want to wait past Fury X because I'd just gotten my 1440 monitor at that point and wanted to utilise the Freesync technology in it.


TL'DR? RTG fucked up.

>>62009950
Literally kek

i wish amd would just unfuck their shit with navi

if they flop i hope they exit the market because nobody besides miners are buying their fucking useless cards for gaming anyway.

t. 390x

>>62009916

Vega is working as intended. The reality that high-end PC gaming doesn't really matter that much anymore. Nvidia even know this and has been moving away ever since Fermi.

AMD conceded that market to Nvidia once Maxwell rocked their shit with 970.

Vega and Navi are all about the long game. Ryzen Mobile are going to start wrecking mid-range market by being "good enough" which is where the bulk of the revenue is for discrete GPU market. Intel will up their game in response. It is a just matter of time before normies and nu-gaymer no longer go out their way to get $199-249 discrete GPUs.

>>62014587
>Vega is working as intended
>prim shader culling is still disabled for majority of the workloads
?

Wait for navi!!! It will show you! It will show you all!!!

I just hope it will have drivers...

>>62014120
i dont use gpu's for mining lol,

with asic i have 50$ a month
imagine with that 135246576W card :D

>>62011712
>>62011702
>>62011789
But he is right, Vega is mess. Stop with muh shill.

they pretty much shoved a bunch of untested, unoptimized compute shit into a computer GPU so they could keep a stake in the market even though all of their strategy has been aimed at the compute market

surprise surprise, rtg fucked up again

>>62015086
>Primitive shaders
>Primitive discard accelerator
>Draw stream binning rasterizer
>Compute
The absolute state of /g/. The only problem with RX Vega is that they launched it on alpha drivers with primitive shaders not enabled yet, and without that feature Vega is massively front end bottlenecked in games by being limited to 4 triangle per clock throughput prior to fixed function culling.

>>62014587
>high end PC gaming doesnt matter anymore because my favorite company's marketshare is shrinking
Delusional. The 1070 and 1080 are more popular than the 480, and the 1060 destroyed it. The reality is AMD is being forced out of the consumer market and they have no response.

>>62011272
>>62015268

Hurray, even sebbbi is impressed by HBCC.

>>62015086
consumer gpu** haha meant to do that haha
>>62015188
my bad, thought it was compute because they mostly marketed to enterprise.

>>62015723
I don't think Sebbi fully appreciates what prim shaders should bring to the table though. Look at the last page of the pricing thread for someone who does appreciate what should be coming.

>>62015727
Well of course they would market it to enterprise first: HBCC is an absolutely killer feature.

>>62015747
Sebbi can't touch the benefits of prim shader yet, he's using public drivers.

>>62009965
>Rx outsold everywhere
sure it is since shops got like only 10 cards without bundle

>>62015892
everyone sane holding off for AIB cards to decide anyway, I don't get this whole agitation about lack of reference cards, who cares except for a few enthusiasts that have money to waste

>>62012434
>>but I think this is a bit harsh for the Radeon.
>$100 increase 2 days after reviews are out, scores taking price in consideration
>harsh
anyone should be harsh about this.

>>62015396
And yet the 480 sold out literally everywhere

hmmmm

>>62015919
amd didn't increase anything, this is such a retarded meme I can't believe how it got traction at all
nobody blamed AMD for $500 580s

>>62015777
Good point.

>>62015943
AMD should sue the absolute shit out of Gibbo for lying his ass off to try and strong arm AMD into continuing to bribe e-tailers to sell at MSRP.

>>62015943
>amd didn't answer the question about rebates and misleading MSRP
>took 2 days for amd layers to formulate an ambigious response which doesn't confirm or deny gibbo's accusations
really activates my almonds

>>62016029
>AMD should sue the absolute shit out of Gibbo for lying his ass off
The fact that amd is quiet about it and didn't outright deny it, shoud tell you something, retard.

>>62016042
>billlion corporations are slow
more news at 11

>>62016042
>>62016077
>The fact that amd is quiet about it and didn't outright deny it, shoud tell you something, retard.
They didn't deny a 70-100MH/s hashrate either, and yet Gibbo was subquently proven to be a knowing and deliberate liar in that case too.

The fact that no one can get any other retailers to confirm Gibbo's claims on the record should tell you everything you need to know. That cocksucker is trying to use the rumors to strong arm AMD into continuing to bribe retailers to sell at MSRP.

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>>62009916
>hurr durr GPU news that may not even be true but hey look at me i'm inciting people in the thread to fight eachother look at me guys
wow it's nothing

>>62016077
who the fuck is Gibbo for AMD to react to?
the fucker first lied about 70Mh/s to increase interest and all of a sudden amd is at fault for not giving them enough cards, i'd black list them as retailer in their place

>>62016116
>>62016121
Explain the $600 rx64 pack with 2 (((FREE))) games.

>>62016162
>Explain the packs with an MSRP identical to that announced for the Radeon packs in the launch slides.
Now you explain how the MSRP of the Radeon packs can stay $599 if they are raising the stand alone card MSRP to $599? Shouldn't the packs then have an MSRP of $699? But wait, everyone was claiming the price hike is being hidden by packs only, but AMD already announced they will be restocking stand alone SKUs! Really send the brain down the lane!

>>62011641
>>62011789
>>62012282
Have you guys ever took the time to consider that if the majority of reviewers don't like AMDs shit, it's not because of some large Jew conspiracy or bias but it's actually because AMD really isn't as great as all you fanboys think?

Just throwing that out there, (You)s incoming

>>62016162
doesn't it also include significant discount for a monitor and ryzen?
it's a separate product which has it's separate agreements with third parties, they can't simply move cards from packs to standalone
stupid idea true, good intentions lead to hell, but it has nothing to do with MSRP

except for all this scandal I don't think anyone cares about reference cards except for a few loonies, call me when AIB MSRP will be $700

If I was Lisa Su I would put that piece of (literal) poo Raja out on the streets for this debacle and fire the marketing team too.

Look, Vega is.... A good card for compute and workstation stuff, but absolute ass for gaming. Fine, as an investor I can live with that, and I would if Raja and marketting didn't essentially lie about Vega being great for gaming and great price/performance for gaming.
If they had come out 4-6 months ago and said "Look guys Vega is having trouble in gaming, but it's kicking ass in enterprise stuff, so well focus on that exclusively this year, any gaming Vega is going to be cut down chips that didn't make the grade for enterprise. We will have a Vega revision for gaming, with drivers and arch problems sorted out in 1H 2018."
Stock would take a temporary hit, but at least they would be honest, and it would inspire confidence in the leadership that they can make lemonade out of lemons. This obfuscastion however by RTG is making me want blood.

>>62016216
>allegedly a card at MSRP with 2 FREE games costs extra $100
how much amd pays you to lie on the internet?

>>62016233
READ THE FUCKING THREAD
LIKE HOLY FUCKING IS THIS A PASTA?

>>62016216
>doesn't it also include significant discount for a monitor and ryzen?
no that's different pack

>>62016245
Jesus AMDrone calm down

>>62016262
Ah its you, br monkey.

>>62009916
xbox one x which is the most powerful gaming device can play games at 4k 60fps and uses amd. Lmoaaa nvidia and intel got destroyed. Amd just knows pcs are obsolete and console gaming is where it's at.

>>62016251
>if you want to get a good deal with vega gotta go all AMD goy
And people call nvidia Jews?

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>>62016242
games are free, monitor,motherboard and ryzen discounts aren't
it's basically like discount coupon seller, you buy a coupon to get a discount and save money, anyone with built pc should ignore packs
I still don't get why it's a problem?

>>62016212
>Now you explain how the MSRP of the Radeon packs can stay $599 if they are raising the stand alone card MSRP to $599?
Because the games are supposedly free, retard. Either they lie about the games being free or 499 being the MSRP.

>>62012282
They should be equally pro a shit product as a good one?

>>62016251
there is only aqua and black pack as far as I know
there is no pack with just games

>>62016267
>the fuck is a br monkey
>oooooohhh
Dude the Brazilian meme is for intel shills, newfag

>>62016216
If the products are as good as AMD want u to think. Why the big cash back offer?

>>62016291
>there is no pack with just games
The initial limited stock at $499 had no games. Now at $599 amd includes 2 """""free"""" games.

>>62016378
because rx580 three times slower than vega go for $450-500
it was stupid of them to think vega would attract new builders

>>62016417
direct me to this "new" pack, I can't find such pack anywhere in AMD materials

you are correct OP

I'll probably buy this piece of shit if it has SR-IOV support and it can do 4k60fps though

>>62016461
SR-IOV support is the one thing I wish nVidia GPUs had.

>>62016429
>I can't find such pack anywhere in AMD materials
Because the real MSRP is 599 and the added """free"""games cost them pennies. Only the initial launch was at $499 and it's not listed anymore.The inflated retailer price is usually around $680 on newegg.

>>62016489
that and freesync

but I'm pretty sure Nvidia actively cripples PCI passthrough on consumer cards so don't hold your breath

they are the Apple of PC hardware

>>62016273
Really no one? I got to used to baiting /v/, it's much easier there.

>>62016531
>Because the real MSRP is 599
this is like talking to the wall, show me in THE STORE the pack with just the games, no overclockersuk
where is it?

>>62016233
>A good card for compute and workstation stuff, but absolute ass for gaming.
Holy fuck you are a moron. Maybe try at least reading the whitepaper before you start vacuously shitposting.

>>62016591
You're just a paid shill.

>>62016591
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202300&cm_re=vega_64-_-14-202-300-_-Product
>whith FREE games

>>62016681
so, no such pack is available for purchase and you gave up searching for it? okay.

>>62016738
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995285

okay, but stand alone cards cost the same in every other store, so how is it not free? if it was above $100 from standalone i'd agree

let's go through chronology here
1. vega launched
2. vega started selling well
3. retailers mistake this for miners hype
4. vega disappeared from stores for several hours
5. same vega now costs 600-650
nobody buying packs so packs didn't grow in price, how is this AMD fault?

>>62016417
Stop lying:
https://videocardz.com/72123/amd-issues-official-statement-regarding-radeon-rx-vega-64-pricing
>Radeon RX Vega 64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega 64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega 64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega 64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega 64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days.
AMD already publicly confirmed they will be restocking stand along card SKUs. So if the packs are $599, how can they restock the stand alone cards at $599? Really sets the noggin joggin.

>>62016850
Nothing in that text confirms they'll be restocking at launch prices, retard. They lost 2 days to come up with that abigious bullshit.

>>62017019
So they are going to restock the stand alone cards at an MSRP of $599 while the MSRP of the packs is still $599? That TOTALLY makes sense and isn't complete bullshit, right?

>>62017019
is english your third language? never read press releases before? ever tried reading law? good training, highly recommend

>>62017056
>ever tried reading law
You're in dire need, amdrone.

>>62017064
Know your shills!

amdrone reddit accuser
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https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22%2Fr%2Famd%22/
https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22amdrone%22/ (lower case results only)

>>62017084
>newfag thinks amdrone is something new
>it's the buttblasted newfag amdrone and archive seraches episode
lol

where is the vega48?

>>62017122
RX 480/580

>>62017316
poo in loo

>>62017122
Silly Anon it's a Enterprise card cut down for gaming they don't give a stuff about normies.

Hopefully mcm + apu on the same die will become a reality soon as mobile soc have been doing this for over a decade PC is just playing catch-up

>>62016827
Why do you try this hard

>>62016638

How is the white paper supposed to influence my idea at all? Right now, as an investor, I do not give a fuck what new technologies and voodoo magic they claim to have in Vega, what matters to me right now is the execution of the product, and they fucked it up. All current benchmarks point to Vega being good in the enterprise market while it is a poor value proposition in the Gaming space. Where am I wrong?

People say the drivers are optimized with features turned off or not used, but here is where I stand, how do I know that all that nice technology from the whitepaper actually works, when I can't see the touted performance gains in the real world? Entire sections of the white paper mean fuck all right now because the feature doesn't work, isn't enabled, or is an outright lie ("Tuned for efficiency").

I want RTG and by extension AMD to succeed but they aren't going to do that by over promising and under delivering on products like Vega.

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>>62017823
>how do I know that all that nice technology from the whitepaper actually works, when I can't see the touted performance gains in the real world?

>>62017807
It's his job.

>>62017122
Vega11 is Q1 2018.
Probably.

>>62017877
You can't really explain that why in gaming Vega still performs just as near as a 1080 though. With at least 60W more power consumption than it.

>>62017807
because it's unreasonable complaint based on lying faggot testimony
nobody should buy vega for this price that's the only truth, if nobody buys it for retarded prices, prices will drop

>>62017944
You can if you look at fucking B3D suite results.
Why the fuck are you all so fucking retarded here?

>>62017944
it was explained several times already
NGG path for games doesn't work yet, it works for pro applications
you can clearly see what driver team focused first on

Oh, AMD is presenting their next-gen GPU uarch today.
Goddamit I love HotChips.

I wonder which one I should buy...

A Radeon Vega 64 for 750€ or a much faster GTX 1080 for only 500€?

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-Vega-64-Liquid-Cooling-Wasser-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1186798.html
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-KFA2-GeForce-GTX-1080-EX-OC-Edition-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1063005.html