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>toms hardware
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Religion of peace, everyone
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Those damn nazis!
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>>61973269
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BUT WE HAVE TO BAN ALL CRITICISM OF ISLAM REALLY REALLY FAST BECAUSE ONE LITERAL NAZI KILLED SOMEONE!!

FUCK OFF TO POL NAZIS
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Fuck these companies
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>>61973269
RIP tom boy
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>>61973269
What if this was a review accident and they are using the recent islamist events as a cover up?
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>>61973269
fucking religion of piss, i hope someone charlie hebdos some mosques as revenge
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>>61976493
>>>/pol/
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>Toms hardware
ehh, who cares
he probably deserved it
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>>61973269
>partner
is he homo?
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>>61973269
Europe's an islamic shithole now. Wouldn't even visit for a day. Fuck that place.
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>>61973269
>his partner
they're so cucked they won't even write HIS WIFE anymore.
fuck that publication.

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>>61973269

>with his partner

well, there's a good way to get yourself killed in durkadurkastan
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>>61976584

"wife"
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>>61976676
last time I checked, faggots cannot give birth to little kids.

and yes, leftist publications now call couples "partners" to normalize faggot couples.
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>>61976721
>and yes, leftist publications now call couples "partners"
aww
is da widdle baby triggered
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Why does /g/ hate Tom's Hardware? Their forums have helped me out a lot, although I don't have an account.
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That article is a little problematic, it asserts that the killers are "terrorists" when they are just doing what is culturally appropriate for them, it's hard enough being in a foreign land, now they have to have racist news outlets generalizing and labeling them too?
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>>61976721
>what is a surrogate
>what is adoption
>what is custody and guardianship
wew lad
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>>61976721
>faggots cannot give birth to little kids.
Well your fact check didn't work out well.
being a faggot doesn't make you infertile.
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>>61976768
russia stopped adoption by western couples about 5 years ago.
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>>61976584
This is very typical of UK press, they never tell the sex of someone's spouse.

At least they don't call them comrades.
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Good
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>>61976853

Gee, I wonder why?
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>>61976780
They are paid off by Intel
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>>61976768
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/02/milo-yiannopoulos-and-the-myth-of-the-gay-pedophile/517332/
tl;dr gay pedo hunts make about as much sense as gun control
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>Tom's Hardware
Good riddance DESU
https://youtu.be/a87Iy7avG7o
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>>61976584
Yeah the way they wrote it they make it sound like he was a pedophile.
All they had to do was state they were their children.
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>>61976652
???
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>>61973269
Fag guinea poisoning kids with queer agenda upbringing.
Good riddence.
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>>61976768
>>61976834
>>61976852
retards. see pic.

>>61976957
>Yeah the way they wrote it they make it sound like he was a pedophile.
They're a disgusting leftist publication.
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>>61974100
Hopefully the retards will die off and leave power so we can fight back. It's getting to be ridiculous.
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> With his partner and two young children
His girlfriends sons?
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>>61977108
Being right on accident doesn't mean your reasoning was sound, lmao.
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>>61976809
>terror attacks in europe.jpg
>San Bernadino
>Orlando
>Ohio
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>>61978255
Terror attacks mostly in Europe*
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Reminder that ISIS is fine, but alt-right stuff must be banned.
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>>61973269

F like fuck all muslims.
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>>61973269
Fuck, that story is sad, it hit me like a truck.
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Tenth crusade when?
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>>61973269
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Everyone stood up against the Nazi racism but now the same groups are silent.
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How many days till the next attack?
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White terrorism has killed more people than misguided followers of the noble islamic faith ever could.
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>>61979316
>>61978295
that's nothing new
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>>61979345
Christianity is responsible for the second most violent conflict in human history.
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this is hardly news

it's just part and parcel of living in a major european city during the ramavan bombathon
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>>61979421
yes we did it so they can do it too, it's justified
just like politics who say the other party did something bad too, so they don't have to care
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lol
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>>61979411
Which conflict are you talking about?
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>>61979441
nah, the one who said that someone did something 80 years ago or even 500 years ago so they can do it now is retarded
people justifying killing other people should be killed because they're harmful to society
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>>61979421
No one is allowed to "catch up". People are not responsible for the crimes of individuals they have absolutely no personal relation to.
Is Islam backwards and violent? Yes. But so are the beliefs of most of the Western far right, and they are entitled to freedom of thought all the same.

>>61979455
Taiping Rebellion. If that's Not True Christianity, the Thirty Years' War was still the deadliest conflict in Europe alone.
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>>61979475
>is islam bad? yes
>but hey this group here is bad too so fuck off
k
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>>61979345
>christian nutjob, demanding holy war and fundamentalism
>gets questioned and told to cool down by secular christians

>muslim nutjob, demanding holy war and fundamentalism
>gets supported by secular muslims
Yes.
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>>61979475
The 30 year war is a gay like you.
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>>61979494
Either everyone is entitled to freedom of thought or no one is. You cannot have both.
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>>61979475
>Taiping Rebellion. If that's Not True Christianity, the Thirty Years' War was still the deadliest conflict in Europe alone.
Oh so we're talking 150 years ago? how many have died in civil wars in the middle east in the last 100 years?
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>>61978642
Crusades are just another catholic chimp out that has damaged Europe far more than any muslim has ever done.
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>>61976584
'Wife' is only used when you're married, right? Perhaps they're not married, and using 'partner' is more professional than writing 'girlfriend'.
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>>61979499
jesus i love my country right now
Let muslims burn down the west because they're entitled to freedom of thought while i will be sitting here laughing at your retarded fat american ass
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>>61979500
>how many have died in civil wars in the middle east in the last 100 years?
False equivalence, civil wars happen for numerous reasons. It's not like the Middle East doesn't have national and ethnic conflict as well.

>>61979513
>>61979526
I am not advocating mass immigration. This is a straw man.
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>>61976853
proofs
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The crusades were just a meme.
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>>61979475
I'll never forgive the Catholics for Magdeburg.
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>>61973269
It's sad, but objectively speaking more people die in car accidents every day.
An occasional terrorist attack is a small price to pay for diversity, which makes our lives better in so many way.
Let's not use this event to justify racism.
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>>61979475
Christianity is so violent and intolerant that gave birth to the western civilization, which is responsible for the exponential increase of quality of life since the 19th century.
Remember that the separation between the state and church never happened in any other part of the world.
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>>61977098
The lower example is only wrong due to incompetent border laws.
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>>61973269
>not all muslims
>pray for Spain
>pray for Anand_Tech
>islam religion of peace

also, refugees welcome
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>>61979719
Nice bait
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>>61979719
>Immigrants come into the country
>Crime related to them skyrockets

Let's just bury our heads into the sand and praise Allah.
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Living with different ethnic groups can be a challenge. But it's a challenge worth overcoming. Different ethnic groups improve our societies and help us move towards a world with no racism.
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>>61979733
>exponential increase of quality of life
False. Eastern civilizations did even better under industrializations. Also, quality of life is more than material goods.
Remember that the separation of church and state wasn't even anything to worry about for many Easterners.

>>61979554
>not like the Middle East doesn't have national and ethnic conflict as well.
Also, just plain jewish competition.
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>>61979771
Your bait smells like gefilte fish.
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>>61979733
>gave birth to the western civilization
Bullshit. Christianity was what made Europe a perpetual warzone BEFORE modern society came about.
Christianity as a religion of peace and love is a complete fabrication, as it is with other Abrahamic faiths. People have always projected contemporary cultural values onto religious iconography. The "true" Christians were the ones out murdering others for having different beliefs. The only difference is that Islam gives an explicit casus belli; Christians do not need one because they believe they can do whatever they want and repent for their sins later. And I can guarantee you that neither religion has any concept of secularism whatsoever.
Western society today is founded on Enlightenment values.
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>>61979781
http://www.photius.com/rankings/human_developement_index_1975-2005.html

>Literally the White Man's Burden
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Have you ever met a person of a different race who was kind, funny, smart or interesting in some way? Someone you could consider a friend? Someone you wouldn't mind living with?
That right there is all the proof you need that immigration is good and racism is stupid.
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>>61979821
Have you ever met a woman who is taller than a man? Yes? Thats right, there is all the proof you need that women are on average taller than men.
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>>61979798
>Christianity as a religion of peace and love is a complete fabrication, as it is with other Abrahamic faiths
Ehhhh, not quite. Christianity and the other Abrahamic faiths define whatever it is they do as peace and love, regardless of the accuracy of the situation.
>>61979798
>Western society today is founded on Enlightenment values.
Both of which are 100% fucking dispensable and completely replaceable. If we didn't have this shithole liberalism, we may well have had communism by now and ALL be better off for it.

>>61979820
>liberal development index
Nigger you and your ideological fellow-travelers did this and you all should die like an unfaithful drug kingpin for it.
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We must make hate speech illegal there is nothing wrong with the inbred pedophile death cult that is Islam.
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>>61979851
>wife should obey husband -1.39 billion
I'm not muslim, but count me into that group +1
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>>61977098
>now
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>>61979798
>Christ preaches love
>Mohammed murdered, raped and enslaved people

It's just the same, don't you know that all religions are equal? Renaissance could have happened in iraq, am I right?
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Understand that propaganda has been used throughout history to change the way people perceive things.

You don't have to agree or support anything. But to assume it is okay to murder innocent lives is not alright. Be subjective.
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>>61979842
>Ehhhh, not quite. Christianity and the other Abrahamic faiths define whatever it is they do as peace and love, regardless of the accuracy of the situation.
Well, yeah. I meant by current standards.
>Both of which are 100% fucking dispensable and completely replaceable. If we didn't have this shithole liberalism, we may well have had communism by now and ALL be better off for it.
That's a whole different discussion. Regardless, Marx was also partially a product of both.
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>>61979833
So you would rather live in a country with no Kanye West, Shaquille O'Neal, Nina Simone, Martin Luther King, Louis Armstrong, Jay-Z, Barack Obama, Neil deGrasse Tyson ... I could go on and on...

You would rather not have those people be your fellow citizens, just because blacks are worse in some aspect on average?
You would prefer to be called a racist?
Wow.
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>>61979851
Kill yourself, neolibcon jew.

>>61979866
Talk to me about King David, neocon jew.
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>>61979883
Funny that the same people advocating we intervene in the Middle East also tell us we need to accept 200 million third world niggers into Europe. If you support mass immigration you support the Jews. Personally I'd like to see Muslims and Jews tear each other to pieces while we get the fuck out of there.
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>>61979882
>don't care about nigger music (promotes degeneracy anyways)
>don't care about a sport which requires you to be a weird looking giant to compete
>Barrack was literally worse than Bush lol, whats your point there?
>science dude is literally a meme
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>>61979866
>>Christ preaches love
Also bullshit, Christianity was just Judaism 2.0. Matthew 5:17, Matthew 10:34.

The actual difference between the faiths is the language and narratives used to romanticize it.
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>>61979883
Nice as hominem. Cry harder Ahmed.
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>>61979900
>advocating we intervene in the Middle East also tell us we need to accept 200 million third world niggers into Europe. If you support mass immigration you support the Jews.
Can't into more than (((sides))), stupid amerinigger?
>Personally I'd like to see Muslims and Jews tear each other to pieces while we get the fuck out of there.
What if the only reason they fight is because the empire sets them against one another? Steady state would be (((those chickenshits)))

>>61979923
Not an argument against killing yourself for being a useless arrogant shitstain on humanity. Neocon jews don't deserve an argument, just torture.
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>>61979900
Steady state would be (((those chickenshits))) hiding like little children within the 1967 borders while the fale Jews in Saudi and the other larpers get their ass handed to them by Persia.
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>>61979499
>freedom of thought
Explain. It's not thoughts that are killing people. It's not thoughts that people are afraid of.

That seems like a straw man.
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>>>/pol/
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>>61979943
/pol/ was banned by heeroshima moot for being racist.. we have to be here now :(
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>>61979846
>countering an image depicting the us as a shithole with a picture depicting the us as a shithole
For what purpose? Africans despise murrican nignogs more than /pol/, it’s not like the state of Rwanda has anything to do with Tyrone.
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>>61979942
>It's not thoughts that are killing people. It's not thoughts that people are afraid of.
Being a Muslim is thought, dumbass. It's not biological, something that can be scientifically proven like genetic ancestry. It is not a synonym for "Arab".
My point is that people want a simple solution to a problem that is inevitably going to be very difficult to solve. Practically, not morally.
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>>61979846
> that filename though
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>>61979973
And Detroit being ruined by blacks is a textbook example of not knowing American history. City industry collapsed by the middle of the 20th century and started to move elsewhere as suburban life became more popular.The city is majority black because decades ago, they were the ones that couldn't afford to leave, or were prohibited from buying property elsewhere. In modern times, its destitution was more deliberate for the sake of easy exploitation, mainly by Democratic figures like Kwame Kilpatrick.
For some perspective, black citizens are now sprawling out from these cities, but crime rates are moving in reverse, being increasingly concentrated in cities.
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>>61979858
I bet this is a factor in the success of Islam. Modern Western values suck, so they go to something that sucks too, but less.
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>>61980033
well, women are civilisation destroying cunts. weird how only muslims seem to get this.

thats why they'll take over in the end.
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>>61980033
Meanwhile Silicon Valley burgers pretend Muslims are their LGBT allies.
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>>61980059
>Meanwhile Silicon Valley burgers pretend Muslims are their LGBT allies.
yeah, I'm not from USA, but after watching some Mark Dice videos I think your people are literal retards

[video related]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsdj5p8KEY
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>>61976809
>PrayforX meymey
MY RAGE IS INFINITE. PRAYING WONT FIX THE PROBLEM YOU RANCID SWINES. TAKE FUCKING ACTION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCK THESE SOCIAL MEDIA SHIT, THEY RUINED EVERYTHING

/cruisecontrol
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>>61980138
>PRAYING WONT FIX THE PROBLEM
>not having a president waif that literally said the same thing publicly
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>>61979693
FWIW I understood this reference.
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>"We used to talk about kids' education, vaccins, alternative medicine(...)"
Don't feel too bad if he was one of those hippies who think vaccins give autism desu
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>>61980152
*forgot picture
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>>61980030
people left detroit because of niggers
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>>61979499
>Supporting terrorism is freedom of thought
I'm not sure you understand the difference between freedom and anarchy. Is this a troll?
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>>61979842
>we may well have had communism by now and ALL be better off for it
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>>61980059
Funnily enough, American Muslim views are slowly warming up to Western norms while they're becoming a time bomb in the "progressive" Europe that liberals fetishize.

>>61980219
>I'm not sure you understand the difference between freedom and anarchy.
There is none. The dichotomy between freedom and order is real and inexorable.
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>>61973269
>with his partner was he gay?
why not say with his wife
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>>61980314
That's because there's an ocean between the Middle East and the US. The US only gets Middle Eastern immigrants that have something to contribute to society (also includes rich oil sheiks).
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>>61973269
>Muslim runs over people
>... killed by a van that also took the lives of...

>White man runs over people
>.... killed by a white supremacist who hates non-whites...
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>>61981224
lol, at least they didn't write killed by a "tanned German"

although, that would be hard in this case, since people from Spain are also tanned
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>>61973269
>Tom's Hardware
He deserved it. Inshallah.
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>>61981224
Most of the headlines from the Charlottesville shitstorm also say generic shit like "suspect" and make no mention of his race or ideology. The rest are editorials.
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>>61981288
I can only speak for the german media I watch.

They were pretty explicit about it.
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>>61981297
>German
Well there you go.
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>>61973269
>Reading poo tech
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>>61981318
I-I'm sure Merkel learned her lesson this time....

Hehehehe....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
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>>61981449
>664
64* military campaigns
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>>61981449

>Christians fucking shit up so bad it results in a world war
>political conflict, their religious identity has nothing to do with it
>Mongols trying hard to gain as much land as possible, wrecking shit up horribly while doing so
>It's totally not a part of their political agenda to try to rule the world and can not be called as a political conflict. It's all because of their religious identity.

your double standards are showing mate.

also
>Russian revolution
>not conflict

>Your historical education is beneath elementary school level

and YOU are the one to say that? here, a much deserved (you) to you.
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>>61981743
>Christians fucking shit up so bad it results in a world war
The world wars were wars of political ideology (Democracy vs Nazism/Fascism vs Communism), with two groups trying to defend and barter over their resources (Britain and Russia) and one group trying to preach racial superiority which has nothing to do with religion (Germans) and one group trying to expand into the Balkans because they had a boner for the territory (Austrians).

Mongol expansion came as a result of Genghis Khan going spiritual and being told by the heavens that he was destined to rule the world, otherwise he would have stopped at merely unifying the tribes.

>your double standards are showing mate.
Your lack of education and knowledge is showing.

>Russian revolution
>not conflict
The deaths from hunger and economic meltdown in both Russia and Chine as a result of Communism sent away more lives than the conflicts themselves.
Again, you are making stupid statements that a single google search would stop you from making.

You are illiterate and uneducated, and shouldn't talk about topics you have no understanding of.
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>>61973269
Fuck nazis and trump for forcing innocent muslims to turn violent
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>>61981743
>gets told to read some history
>goes to prove that he hasn't read any history
Seems like /b/'s stupidity is invading outside of its board again.
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>>61981449
>- Muslims are more likely to act according to the example given by their founder (prophet) of their Abrahamic branch (Islam). Muhammad.
>Who waged 664 military campaigns, perpetrated war crimes, fucked kids, used blacks as slaves. Aggression and depravity are thereby norm rather than exception.
I think you got something wrong. Islam is a religion of peace
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>>61977108
>They're a disgusting leftist publication.

Which makes him getting killed by sandniggers all the more fun.
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>>61981449
>The 2nd most deadly conflict in human history in the amount of dead was Mongol expansion (Muslims).
Point stands regardless, because the Taiping Rebellion was intrinsically Christian; the Mongols were only Muslim for part of their reign.

>The 3rd most devastating phenomena that's not a conflict but can be considered a consequence of social ideology was Communism (atheists).
The "hundred million" statistic has long since proven to be nonsense because you can apply its metrics to any major historical economic system and get big scary numbers. No, I am not defending communism.

>We can go on, since breaking up conflicts into categories of politics or religion is easy as hell and when it comes to religion-based conflict alone rather than political, Islam rules in deaths and misery it produced.
It does in modern times. Historically, no one even came close to the bloodbaths caused by Christians.

>You can ask any nation bordering or within Islam as witnesses, Indians for example or Chinese (when Mongols attacked them).
I could also be dishonest by including, say, Spanish inquisitors.

>Even ignoring all of the above,the rule of norm and exceptions goes:
Here's the thing: it doesn't matter. Christianity still implicitly endorses violence regardless of any lack of lead-by-example doctrine. This is a proven historical and theological fact you cannot hand-wave

Regardless, the dindu nuffin caricature of Christ is provably false:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/sword.html
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>>61982060
>Point stands regardless
It doesn't. Mongols were Muslims for the majority of their reign and Khan was spurred by religious motivations to rule the world.

>The "hundred million" statistic has long since proven to be nonsense because you can apply its metrics to any major historical economic system and get big scary numbers.
It hasn't been proven, it was theorized.
As far as the famines go and the documentation of what lead to them with regards to bureaucratic management, it is all well documented and a good showcase.

>It does in modern times. Historically, no one even came close to the bloodbaths caused by Christians.
Incorrect, Islam also historically produced mayhem, which again you can ask the Asians, Slavs, Med people, Ethiopians, and more.

>I could also be dishonest by including, say, Spanish inquisitors.
I did say there were exceptions, and Spanish inquisition rounded up didn't make more damage than Ottomans did in the small part of Balkans alone.

>Here's the thing: it doesn't matter.
It does matter. One religion isn't based on war, while the other is.
>Christianity still implicitly endorses violence regardless of any lack of lead-by-example doctrine.
Jesus Christ never endorsed violence, ergo Christianity doesn't endorse violence, which is why Christianity had reforms to purge the violent additions to the bible and teach the people better with the 30 year war as an example; while Islam is, was, and will continue to be based on a war mongering, slave herding, child fucking prophet and his words.

>>Regardless, the dindu nuffin caricature of Christ is provably false:
>http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html
>And the LORD spake unto Moses
>Moses

Moses lived 1000 years before Christ and is only relevant to Hebrews, not Christians.

You just shat out a passage unrelated to Christ's words as an argument against Christ.
If this is the level at which you are illiterate and uneducated, then i think we can stop discussing.
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>>61979475
lol no

The civil war would have happened one way or another, and considering how heretical the Taiping's brand of "Christianity" was (ask any denomination about some guy being Jesus' brother lol), it's far enough from Christianity for the faith to hold any blame in the matter. That's like blaming the Danny Phantom for that autist who shot up a grocery store.

The Qing invaded and deposed the Ming, complete with brutal atrocities. They then instituted a racial apartheid system that elevated the Manchu and Mongols above the native Han chinese. A Manchu bannerman could easily get away with crimes against an ordinary Han, and there was no legal recourse for the aggrieved. The same exact crime would be punished with a slap on the wrist for the Manchu, but severely for the Han. The Han, the conquered, HATED the Qing dynasty. This war would have happened eventually as the discontent grew. Remember, the recent western BTFO of the Chinese signaled to the ordinary citizen that the dynasty did not have the mandate of heaven. Those factors combined made civil war inevitable.

Christianity wasn't responsible for the Taiping rebellion, it was window dressing. The real responsibility lies with the Qing. Also, Chinese are shit at war, and since there are so many of them any war is bound to kill scores of people.
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>>61973269
a byte turned into a stream of bits lmao
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>>61982060
>the Muslims oppressed the Spanish so much, while the Papacy and northern Christians ignored their plights, to the point that they went mad with vengeance and created the Spanish Inquisition following the war of liberation, which was independent from Papal control and thereby ignored most of the rules

Your example is pretty shit.
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>>61982157
>It doesn't. Mongols were Muslims for the majority of their reign and Khan was spurred by religious motivations to rule the world.
Majority, not entirety. The numbers overlap enough for it to be meaningless.
>As far as the famines go and the documentation of what lead to them with regards to bureaucratic management, it is all well documented and a good showcase.
Communism is easy enough to criticize without neoconservative crap. The authors outright admitted that the "big black book" fudged data to achieve a shocking sounding number, including nonsense like "people who weren't born but should have been because we say so".
>Incorrect, Islam also historically produced mayhem, which again you can ask the Asians, Slavs, Med people, Ethiopians, and more.
Political conquest is hardly "mayhem
>I did say there were exceptions, and Spanish inquisition rounded up didn't make more damage than Ottomans did in the small part of Balkans alone.
The Ottomans were far more concerned with ethnicity than religion. Keep in mind that Turkey still denies the Armenian genocide, amusingly.
>It does matter. One religion isn't based on war, while the other is.
Apparently it sucks at war since it hasn't objectively generated more suffering than a "peaceful" religion.
>Jesus Christ never endorsed violence, ergo Christianity doesn't endorse violence, which is why Christianity had reforms to purge the violent additions to the bible and teach the people better with the 30 year war as an example; while Islam is, was, and will continue to be based on a war mongering, slave herding, child fucking prophet and his words
All you are saying is that it's okay to mass murder people as long as you do it for Christianity. The Bible doesn't even forbid slavery to begin with, it was considered normal in Biblical times.
You might also remember the whole child molestation fiasco the the Catholic Church.
You are just nitpicking words at this point.
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>>61982186
>it's far enough from Christianity for the faith to hold any blame in the matter.
That's what every denomination says.
>The Qing invaded and deposed the Ming, complete with brutal atrocities. They then instituted a racial apartheid system that elevated the Manchu and Mongols above the native Han chinese. A Manchu bannerman could easily get away with crimes against an ordinary Han, and there was no legal recourse for the aggrieved. The same exact crime would be punished with a slap on the wrist for the Manchu, but severely for the Han. The Han, the conquered, HATED the Qing dynasty. This war would have happened eventually as the discontent grew. Remember, the recent western BTFO of the Chinese signaled to the ordinary citizen that the dynasty did not have the mandate of heaven. Those factors combined made civil war inevitable.
Breaking news: real world politics are more nuanced than one-dimensional spats. How is this any different from saying Islam has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism because of the geopolitical element?

>>61982285
Your excuse is pretty shit. "They started it!" has been the casus belli of many Islamic atrocities.
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>>61982316
>Political conquest is hardly "mayhem
I undo'd at this point.
>Political conquest is hardly "mayhem", there are more than enough examples for either faith of violence for its own sake. This is kind of how politics worked for most of human history. I would also argue that the Crusades had too much of a political dimension to be cited as Christian fanaticism.
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>>61979554
>calls false equivalency
>while using whatabout himself
Retards shouldn't be allowed on /g/
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>>61982316
>ajority, not entirety. The numbers overlap enough for it to be meaningless.
The numbers of deaths were mostly attributed to the Muslim period. Up to 65 million according to estimates.

>Communism is easy enough to criticize without neoconservative crap.
Please, the documentation is there even ignoring the big black book. For both China and Russia. Libraries of libraries of cross-checked write-offs, labeled inconsistencies in documentation, agricultural output and input calculations, and decades of rounding up the numbers to come to the conclusion that the millions upon millions were valid in both countries and outside.

>Political conquest is hardly "mayhem
Good thing it was religious conquest and not political, since the Quran is also the political constitution and there is no secularism in Islam; compared to Christianity where Christ's own words denounce mixing state and religion which supported secular reformation of the Christian world.

>The Ottomans were far more concerned with ethnicity than religion.
Which is why almost every Sultan has a written biography of being obsessed with spreading Islam without regards to ethnicity, and even endorsing weeding out Turkish blood.

>Apparently it sucks at war since it hasn't objectively generated more suffering than a "peaceful" religion.
It doesn't suck at war and it has objectively and quantitatively generated more suffering than Christianity.

>All you are saying is that it's okay to mass murder people as long as you do it for Christianity.
You made a stupid mistake in the end of your previous post, and now you are twisting words to avoid it. Nice.
Jesus Christ doesn't endorse violence and mayhem, and Jesus Christ's words are the central aspect of Christianity.
Anyone else's words are taken with a grain of salt.
Completely opposite of Islam where Muhammad himself takes the central role and his words and history are bathed in war and oppression.
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>>61982505
It's not whataboutism if it's related to the topic, you mong. The Middle East is one of the least politically stable regions on Earth and the US and UK are indirectly responsible for a lot of its current issues.
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>>61979851
Reminder that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim

The term was invented by globalists and pushed to liberal media in order to pretend that only a fraction of muslims supports the same ideas as terrorist

The truth is all muslims supports the same ideas
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>>61982372
>"They started it!" has been the casus belli of many Islamic atrocities.
Except Islam has no casus beli against Spain of such sort, which makes them the original perp.
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>>61982547
Yes it is because it's only tangible related at best

Stop being retarded and stick to the subject and stop calling fallacies when you're entire argument is fallacious
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>>61982316
>All you are saying is that it's okay to mass murder people as long as you do it for Christianity. The Bible doesn't even forbid slavery to begin with, it was considered normal in Biblical times.
>You might also remember the whole child molestation fiasco the the Catholic Church.
>You are just nitpicking words at this point.

He actually covered that:

>>61981449
>Even ignoring all of the above,the rule of norm and exceptions goes:
>- Muslims are more likely to act according to the example given by their founder (prophet) of their Abrahamic branch (Islam). Muhammad.
>Who waged 64 military campaigns, perpetrated war crimes, fucked kids, used blacks as slaves. Aggression and depravity are thereby norm rather than exception.
>- Christians are more likely to act according to the example given by their founder (prophet) of their Abrahamic branch (Christianity). Jesus Christ.
>Who didn't hurt a fly in his life except overturning a bunch of merchant tables, didn't wage any conflicts, didn't own slaves, didn't fuck kids. Aggression and depravity are thereby exception rather than norm.

Your arguing skills are shit.
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>>61982525
>The numbers of deaths were mostly attributed to the Muslim period. Up to 65 million according to estimates.
65 million is extremely higher than generally accepted numbers.
>Please, the documentation is there even ignoring the big black book.
Yes, but the actual death tolls were far lower than a hundred million according to most cited evidence. The communists were more inept than violent, though that's arguably more worrying.
>Good thing it was religious conquest and not political, since the Quran is also the political constitution and there is no secularism in Islam; compared to Christianity where Christ's own words denounce mixing state and religion which supported secular reformation of the Christian world.
Render unto Caesar has never been interpreted as an endorsement of separation of church and state. Ever. That wasn't even a thing until a few centuries ago, and religious people in general were NOT a fan of the idea. Also see >>61982412.
>Which is why almost every Sultan has a written biography of being obsessed with spreading Islam without regards to ethnicity, and even endorsing weeding out Turkish blood.
Apparently the genocides were spontaneous then.
>It doesn't suck at war and it has objectively and quantitatively generated more suffering than Christianity.
>You made a stupid mistake in the end of your previous post, and now you are twisting words to avoid it. Nice.
This argument is going in circles. I made a stupid mistake, but at least my evidence isn't pulled out of my ass.
>Jesus Christ doesn't endorse violence and mayhem, and Jesus Christ's words are the central aspect of Christianity.
>Anyone else's words are taken with a grain of salt.
You cannot hand-wave Christian atrocities with "not true Christians". Get over it. Christians destroyed Europe hundreds of years ago and Muslims are destroying it now.
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>>61982060
>http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html
>literally nothing about the ages of the children
>literally nothing about having sex with them (unless you could the taking wives from the daughters passage, but the word daughter has no relation to the age of the daughter)
Seems pretty grasping at straws there.
You also have to remember that slavery was also common in that time, so it is quite likely many of them were taken as slaves or maidservants for their wives, etc
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>>61982564
So much for turn the other cheek, then.

>>61982579
It is not tangential, the religious aspects of the Rebellion are a proven fact.

>>61982588
>He actually covered that:
I know he did. He covered it by pulling a No True Scotsman fallacy against any historical example of Christianity that does not fit his narrative.
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>>61982711
>Seems pretty grasping at straws there.
Hardly, the page clearly stated it was only plausible.
>You also have to remember that slavery was also common in that time, so it is quite likely many of them were taken as slaves or maidservants for their wives, etc
I know, it's why I'm not using it as an argument. That'd be pretty weird.
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>>61979345
That's the expected thing.
Intel integrated GPUs have no chance against the AMD discrete graphical cards.
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>tfw i thought this is /pol/
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>>61976517
Found the muslim
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>>61981449
why bother writing to some irrelevant retard online
you can't educate or fix it , the only way to fix him is the rope
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>>61982682
>65 million is extremely higher than generally accepted numbers.
It's actually lower. Black Death migration is also included in the toll as a direct consequence of Mongol expansion.
You can also attribute disease spread in Americas too with the natives, it won't come even near the Mongol numbers.

>The communists were more inept than violent, though that's arguably more worrying.
The very system itself is inept.

>Render unto Caesar
Not the citation I am thinking of. I'm talking more of Jesus's opposition to organization in terms of a governing system when conversing with his first disciples.

>Apparently the genocides were spontaneous then.
The genocides followed the people who didn't surrender at all.

>is argument is going in circles. I made a stupid mistake, but at least my evidence isn't pulled out of my ass.
It was pulled out of your ass when you tried to attribute something to Christ with passages that have nothing to do with him.
You tried to look legitimate and only shit the bed.

>You cannot hand-wave Christian atrocities with "not true Christians".
I don't. I argue that Christianity has an inherently lesser disposition towards retardation because its central figure is a peaceful man, unlike Islam whose central figure is a warmongering retard.
And these are quantifiable facts historically.
Islam has lead to the biggest death toll globally compared to Christianity, no matter how you try to equalize.

Christ and Muhammad are the key difference between why Christianity has been fighting over humanism and became completely peaceful, while Islam is retarded through and through all the time, past or present.

>Christianity destroyed Europe then
kek
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>>61982724
>He covered it by pulling a No True Scotsman fallacy
Arguing that Christ is the only relevant component of Christianity, which is pretty much evident in its name;
while Muhammad is the only relevant component of Islam, which is pretty much evident in him founding it;
is not a No True Scotsman. It's an unarguable fact.

It is a valid statement to say following Christ is a route of peace,
while following Muhammad is a route of war and violence,
because one man was peaceful and the other violent.

You are missing the point of the whole argument because of your butthurt obsession of trying to equate Christianity and Islam, when that in itself is false equivalence since one is more focused on peace than the other which is born in blood and war; and history proves it with Muslims killing and enslaving far more than Christians in all historical books and documentation whether past or present.
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>>61982882

>Christianity has been fighting over humanism

yeah aliens from mars were trying to take african people as slaves and all the white christians fought bravely to free them. Yeah, i remember those days.
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>>61982806
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Everyone knows this fag got recruited so they faked his death and gave him a new identity

seriously oldest trick in the B00K
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>>61982882
>It's actually lower. Black Death migration is also included in the toll as a direct consequence of Mongol expansion.
>You can also attribute disease spread in Americas too with the natives, it won't come even near the Mongol numbers.
Fair enough.
>Not the citation I am thinking of. I'm talking more of Jesus's opposition to organization in terms of a governing system when conversing with his first disciples.
Source?
>The genocides followed the people who didn't surrender at all.
That's actually worse than what I was implying, so.
>It was pulled out of your ass when you tried to attribute something to Christ with passages that have nothing to do with him.
Christ as in Christianity.
>I don't. I argue that Christianity has an inherently lesser disposition towards retardation because its central figure is a peaceful man, unlike Islam whose central figure is a warmongering retard.
I am aware. I think this is a moot argument because, well, Muslims don't make them any "more" dead. Numbers are numbers.
>And these are quantifiable facts historically.
Not really, all I have ever seen elsewhere is Robert Spencer-esque assertions of "it's only bad when Muslims do it".
>Islam has lead to the biggest death toll globally compared to Christianity, no matter how you try to equalize.
I haven't seen numbers that indicate anything other than Christianity having a modest (not huge) lead over Islam in total death count.
>Christ and Muhammad are the key difference between why Christianity has been fighting over humanism and became completely peaceful, while Islam is retarded through and through all the time, past or present.
Whatever personal feelings you ascribe to the religions are irrelevant to me. History will always be more complicated than red vs. blue.
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>>61982990
>and all the white christians fought bravely to free them
They did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery

Muslims however will never abolish it.

One is a religion of reformation,
the other a religion based on militarism and oppression.
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>>61982927
>Christ is the only relevant component of Christianity, which is pretty much evident in its name
Now you're just redefining what "Christianity" means to try to move the goalposts. I don't care what "Christianity" personally, arbitrarily means to you.
>You are missing the point of the whole argument because of your butthurt obsession of trying to equate Christianity and Islam, when that in itself is false equivalence since one is more focused on peace than the other which is born in blood and war; and history proves it with Muslims killing and enslaving far more than Christians in all historical books and documentation whether past or present.
"Because I say so" is not evidence.
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>>61973269
Man that sucks. We better start cracking down more on white Christian men online.
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>>61973269
That's what you get for letting millions of (((refugees))) into your countries. We don't even care anymore, reap what you sow.
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>>61973269
Never heard of this guy. Not technology.
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>>61983127
Looks to me like Christians were pretty ambivalent or confused about it, like the part where slavery is okay if the victim is a sinner.
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Why do you faggots have to shit up every board.

Yes, niggers are subhuman and muslims are evil, we get it, it's getting tiresome.

You're like obnoxious reddit atheists who have to go around trying to "convert" people any time a certain topic gets brought up.
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>>61983416
He worked for Tom's Hardware. It is close enough to technology.
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>>61976919
lmao I can't believe you actually wrote this post
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