/wt/ - Watch Thread

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helo i posted this in the other thread but is this alright for $20, im not sure how old it is

>>61973136
It's beaten to shit. Look more.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=seiko+quartz+vintage&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=seiko+quartz+vintage&_sacat=0

>>61973233
i dont think there are many that are in better condition than this. for some retard on a $50 budget, could i swipe any good condition seiko that still keeps time accurately?

>>61973287
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=10&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo&_udhi=50&_nkw=seiko%20quartz%20vintage&_dcat=31387&rt=nc&Gender=Men%2527s&Movement=Quartz%2520%2528Battery%2529

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Just won a bid on this
Thoughts?

>>61973596
How much?

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this has 8 mins left on auction if anyone wants it

>>61973675
Who would?

What watch is appropriate for a total eclipse?

>>61973610
$60 including shipping, may have gotten cucked as havent seen it up close yet, but if so its only $60

>>61973610
Also its an esrly 60s model

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>>61974442
I'll be wearing this one for it.

>>61974442
Some wont gwt the refference but id say a bulova space view would be fitting because of the name

Every Seiko ever made is a shitter

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>>61973596
>buying anything chrome plated that isn't russian
yep. got memed anon

>>61975318

THIRTEEN

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>>61975318
Hi :^)

>>61975318
do you think trashy, busty 14 year olds will like my Seiko?

>>61975456
the dial looks like a piece of an ugly tie but sure

>>61975477
Who cares how it looks? You are looking at the watch that ended the Swiss chronometer trials.

It is the only regular production movement to ever both win an astronomical observatory competition against all other mechanical entrants, and to receive certification from Neuchatel Observatory as Astronomical Observatory Chronometers. It was then sold to the public.

The last one of these to change hands was sold for ~$20,000.

>>61975318
so?

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>>61975560
>You are looking at the watch that ended the Swiss chronometer trials.

Quartz watches ended chronometer trials.

Seiko males like to make things up and ascribe mythical properties to their jap watches and you can of course fully expect either some long autistic rant or some link to some forum/article that declares this to be true (without evidence though, Seiko doesn't need any of that!).

Also here was a series produced Observatory chronometer made a few decades prior to that Seiko at the Kew Observatory that blew the fuck out of everyone with passing trials even harder than what the Swiss observatories had. But Seiko fags will never mention that. What they also won't mention is that chronometer trials also ended EVERYWHERE in the late 1960's/early 1970's including in burgerland, England, France, and the rest of Europe which apparently had nothing whatsoever to do with quartz watches but because a bunch of self-hating white soy-eaters who buy boring accountant's watches saw that their pet brand once won a competition in Switzerland.

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>>61975741
>Quartz watches ended chronometer trials.
You've been proven wrong on this point multiple times. Give it up already.

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>>61975760
Nice evidence.

Enjoy linking me to a blog.

>>61975809
>literally a quartz movement entered into the chronometry trials (which actually won it if I recall correctly)
>collaboration between 21 swiss companies
>"hurr quartz ended the trials"
Do you not see the contradiction here?

>>61975828
Quartz ended the trials because there was no point to them anymore. Mechanical watches started cratering in sales, most of the Swiss companies ended up going bankrupt, and between all this (big surprise!) they don't want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars entering contests that now have no practical point nor do anything with increasing sales as people are starting to get access to cheaper and cheaper quartz watches that give better accuracy.

Again, NO EVIDENCE on your part.

>>61975925
So exactly as much evidence as you've provided then. And no, conjecture doesn't count as evidence.

>>61975925
Then why were the trials restarted a few years ago with the Swiss only stipulation if quartz made them pointless?

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>>61975741
(You)

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>>61975741
>>61975809
>>61975925
Hey nice lies.

I'll have to remember to search the archive and copy paste the last time you got BTFO'd on this subject because I'm not wasting my time on you twice.

Where is everyone???????????

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>>61976220

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>>61976220
whut

>>61976240
>HOMOS-tier lugs

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>>61976220

>>61975925
http://watchesbysjx.com/2013/06/explaining-seikos-legendary-history-in-swiss-chronometer-trials-with-live-pictures-of-its-landmark-astronomical-observatory-chronometer.html

>Aside from Girard-Perregaux, Seiko is the only company to have retailed observatory certified timepieces made in series. Other companies did sell observatory contest winners, or observatory certified chronometers in small series like the famed Rolex Kew ‘A’ of the forties. Seiko and GP made and sold them in relatively large quantities; GP sold over 600 of its high frequency chronometers in the sixties.

Note I said series produced, the Rolex Kews were not series production watches.

http://wornandwound.com/history-of-chronometers-pt-2-observatory-trials/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-beta-21
>After six years of research the first prototype, the Beta-1, was produced in 1966, using a 8192 Hz quartz oscillator mounted in an in-house integrated circuit. Shortly thereafter in 1967, the Beta-2 was produced and was awarded first prize at the "Concours Chronométrique International de l'Observatoire de Neuchâtel," setting a new record for accuracy over the test period of only .0003 seconds variation in rate per day (as opposed to the 3-10 seconds typical of wristwatch chronometers of the day).
OwO, what's this? The Swiss were perfectly happy to let a Swiss made quartz take top place in 1967, why then did they suddenly cancel all the contests a year later? Gee, I wonder?

>In Geneva Seiko proceeded to take fourth to tenth place in the wristwatch movement category, with first to third place occupied by the quartz Beta 21 movement fromCentre Electronique Horloger, an enterprise backed by the Swiss watch industry. That meant that the Seiko movements were the top finishers in the mechanical movement category.

>After Seiko’s victories in 1968, the Geneva observatory thencancelled its contests in 1968, ending the long tradition of Swiss observatory timing trials.

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>>61976262
show the rest

>>61976271
not bad, seiko male

>>61976323
trust me they're all shitters

>>61975925
>>61976308
http://watchesbysjx.com/2013/06/explaining-seikos-legendary-history-in-swiss-chronometer-trials-with-live-pictures-of-its-landmark-astronomical-observatory-chronometer.html
>But in2009 the Swiss chronometer contest returned.

>Organised by the great and the good of Swiss watchmaking, including theNeuchâtel cantonal government,COSC and the Besançon Observatory, the biennialConcours International de Chronométrie,or International Chronometry Competition, professed a noble aim. It wanted to continue the tradition of the chronometer contests of the 19th and 20th century, not just for movements, but for finished watches destined for the purchase by consumers.

>But amongst the rules of the contest, one governing the provenance of the timepiece stands out. It reads: “All parts used to build the movement must be made within Europe.”
Gee, I wonder why they have such a restriction? Perhaps it is the existential terror the Swiss still have that if Seiko was allowed to compete that they would get dumpstered again.

>>61976220
It's the weekend, abandon thread.

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>>61975828
>>61975954
>>61975968
>>61976017
>>61976054


Why did they stop doing chronometer TESTING and certification at the Besançon Astronomical Observatory in France?

Why did they stop doing chronometer TESTING and certification at the Kew Observatory in England?

Why did they stop doing chronometer TESTING and certification at the Geneva Observatory?

Why did they completely stop doing certification, testing, etc. of chronometers in the United States?

Apparently white people are so insecure and incompetent that not only do they quite doing competitions, but they actually just shut down testing and certification of movements altogether, all at the same time, on the entire planet! I'm so glad Daini Seikoshi blew the top on this White fragility and destroyed the entire industry.

Of course it had nothing to do with the governments running these observatories ending funding for testing antiquated technology, or the fact that 95% of these companies were spiraling into insolvency and the last thing they had on their mind was getting expensive, lengthy certification that now had no value on the market, nope, it was all the power of DAINI SEIKOSHI.

>This is literally
>LITERALLY
>what seiko males believe

>>61976323

That thing is gorgeous.

It would be even better if it were in the 36mm range.

>>61976416
How many Swiss Chronometer Trials did they have in France, England, or the US? Oh right.

As has already been covered, Geneva and Neuchatel had no problem with a Swiss quartz winning the year before, yet suddenly in 1968 when Seiko decimated the Swiss suddenly all the competitions were suspended indefinitely, and when received today the rules are designed specifically to keep Seiko out.

I'm sure it's also a complete coincidence that Neuchatel ceased certifying watches at all after the production Seikos were certified, right?

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>>61976512
Of course it is. Bauhaus cucks will never achieve this kind of beauty.

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inb4 triggered bauhaus cucks

>>61976416
>>61976614
Oh and by the way, by stipulating “All parts used to build the movement must be made within Europe", the Swiss themselves admit that I am correct.

>>61976643
This is the kind of shitposting I can get behind.

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Got out the door with this for 45 at a Penney's going under near me. It's my first non-quartz watch.

>>61977034
My condolences.

>>61977039
I was dying for a new watch. Had just been on a cruise and all I wanted was a mechanical, but the prices seemed suspect on the trip.

>>61977034
You fell for analog meme...

>>61975809
Didn't Archie get JUSTed by one of his Asian wives?

>>61976416
Dank reddit spacing my guy.

>>61977366
At least one.

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>>61974442
I'll be wearing my Ball Engineer II COSC Arabic, since the tritium seems appropriate.

>>61973596
This link has a bit of info on Vantage, seems they were Hamilton's entry level line.
https://timelesstimepieces.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/vantage-watch-by-hamilton-watch-company-a-swiss-17-jewel-watch/

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Every Seiko ever made is a shitter

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Thoughts?

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>>61978179

Well, shitter is relative. If you're actually Japanese it's fine. But if you're white and obsess over these Gook watches while shitting over the European watchmaking tradition you deserve to be mocked.

Pic and link related Seiko USA target demographic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSPZd9z3v5Y

Where do you guys buy these Russian watches? Are they all quartz or are there some decent automatics?

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>>61978473
I just search and find them. Haven't got one but "Vostok' Automatic self-winding 31 jewel 2416b movement with power wind !" Is the movement in pic related.

Russian watch lads what would you pay for this?

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>>61978473
Meranom.com

>>61978473
Meranom or eBay.

>>61978589
MSRP straight from Chistopol is $70 https://meranom.com/en/amphibian-classic/420/vostok-watch-amphibian-classic-420335.html, and it's about $5 less on eBay depending on your location http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vostok-Amphibian-scuba-diving-Russian-watches-Mechanical-Automatic-420335-/132147912724?epid=1566967984&hash=item1ec4a12014:g:yAoAAOSwAr9ZftaI.

>>61978704
Haha a local guy has that watch listed for sale at $100USD guess he is turning a nice little profit if he manages to sell one.

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>>61978758
I mean the strap probably adds like $20 or $30 to the watch depending on the quality of it.

Could be worse though.

>>61978661
is this the che guevara shirt of watches?

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To the person asking last thread; the new coaxial escapement has gotten a bit better; still requires precise oiling, but wont destroy itself as fast as the previous design.

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>>61978832
Nah that's a Casio F91W or a Vostok Komandirskie.

>>61978832
Not really considering it does not have the same pop cultural recognition. I would say something with blatant communist iconography on the dial would be more of an equivalent.

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>>61978887
I got you my dude. It even looks like an ancom flag.

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>>61978832
Anon...

>>61978909
Here's another one that just screams "I paid too much for this while I was in Moscow".

>>61978957
That has to be a tourist watch made in Ukraine, right?

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>>61978997
Real shit, I have no idea why people still use Photobucket.

>>61979007
that's pretty nice

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>>61979007
Holy shit!
100% lefty Hipster!
100% want!

I'm the anon who complained in the last thread that the seagull 1963 is too expensive in EU, but apparently watchunique.com sells it for €100 less than the seller I know. Are they legit?

And how likely is it that random jewelers will actually be able to service it at an OK price, instead of downright declining to work on such a weird chink thing?

>>61979525
I wouldnt worry about Declining service, but its a chrono, you're gonna pay out the ass lol.

>>61979605
Define paying out the ass, please.
How often do they even need servicing?

I had people decline servicing my old shitter omega, because
>Fuck, thats an OMEGA!!!
>I'm not going to touch an OMEGA!!!!!!!
and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens with a watch they don't know that is 100% labelled in chinese.

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>>61979665
Or alternatively, how likely is it that someone with average mechanical skills can just do it himself? Managed to get some no jewels swiss thing I got for 5€ at a flea market i got at a flea market working once, but not sure if I already would want to play around with 200€. Maybe I should try my 80€ Amphibia first?

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Reposting from last thread.

Need some advice, my grandfather recently passed away and he left me his favourite watch (pic related). You can tell he wore it a lot because it is in a bit of a state, it needs a good clean (particularly the band) and such.
As well as getting it cleaned I figured I should get it serviced as I am led to believe its relatively old and has only ever had its battery changed by dubious watch guys at the local market. Where would be a good place to take it in (UK, Reading)? I understand goldsmiths do watch servicing but I figured I should ask as google is giving me bugger all.

>>61978841
Thanks!

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>>61979007
>>61978957
>>61978909
Absolute class

>>61980051
Why can't you replace the battery and clean it yourself?

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>>61979698
i dont mean to encourage you, but you're gonna break some stuff sooner or later, and chinky parts can be hard to come by, i think

>>61980367
It is more that I want it serviced, cleaning it isnt a big issue just havent got round to it.

>>61980376
*discourage* lol

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Customer's Poljot is nearing completion. I haven't put it on the timegrapher yet, but I can see it has a fuckhuge swing, so it all looks good.

The date mechanism had some problems, it was weak and sometimes only moved the date wheel halfway. The wire spring of the date switching "claw" didn't push it far enough, bending it a bit gave it more travel, so the claw now gives a big fuck you slap to the date wheel teeth, correctly switching it every time.

>>61980376
>>61980384
But it seems like you also dont really want to encourage me ;^)
But yes, I am aware of the risk (I think) and the parts could be an issue. I'd assume Vostok amphibia parts are easier to get?
That would also be cheaper, if I totally kill it.

Any other anons who service their own watches? Good idea? How long did it take you to git gud? How much damage did you cause on the way?

>>61979007

wtf i love communism now

>>61979007

Where?

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>>61980398
Here is the performance after the first round of regulation. Lift angle is correctly set, so the amplitude is correct. Not bad for an old slav shitter.

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The other day I was waiting in line at the bank and I saw an elderly asian gentleman with his grandson. They appeared to be staring at my wrist but I pretended to ignore them in the already quiet bank. I couldn't help but hear them whisper "V6S", "Noob" and then "Incorrect hand stack". When I heard them snickering and the grandson yelled "Look at those SELs!" I couldn't take it any more and ran out of the bank trying not to cry while they cackled in laughter.

I'm looking for watch that somehow resembles astronomy, even small thing that'd is nice. With sapphire glass and bit waterproof so I'm not scared washing hands with it on wrist. I have pretty big hands. Any ideas?

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>>61978179
Hi :^)

>>61980600
Citizen Astrodea

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>>61980600

Probably not what you are looking but always liked idea behind this casio.

>>61979665
I would expect to pay ~$300 for a chronograph service. Also, as long as you can find a glad decent independent watchmaker they should not have any problems servicing the SeaGull 1963.

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>>61980600
>>61980662
Also accurist makes a slightly cheaper version

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>>61980695

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>>61980600
Even something with a simple moonphase.

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>>61980398
>>61980541
gj anon, proud of u. those commie shocksystems are so sick.
hows it running in sideways modes btw?

>>61980424
a vostok would indeed be cheaper, although they arent the best movements to learn watchmaking.

i do service my own watches, but im spoiled with fancy tools and machines at school. after about half a year of watchmaking school i felt confident enough to service my own watches. naturally you break or lose stuff, its simply unavoidable, but you can learn a lot from it and you'll end up a better watchmaker in the end. you can also turn the things you break into projects trying te make them yourself. i broke the pallet fork pivot of a chronograph i was servicing for a friend. decided to turn it myself, it really is something else to see something you made doing its job, ticking away inside a movement.

>>61978179
Accurate

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>>61974442
There can only be one.
It is the dragon hand that tells you an eclipse is coming up since the alignment is along at ascending (dragon head) or descending (dragon tail) node.

>>61980861
Despite knowing that's a complicated piece, I can't help but think the case & crown make it look cheap.

>>61980792
>those commie shocksystems are so sick.
This one is one of those Incabloc knock-offs, that you have to slide out instead of lifting up. Not too bad really. Later slav watches all seem to have moved to in-house designs, sometimes inferior even. Maybe Incabloc attacked them for patent infringement, which could have banned these watches from being imported in the capitalist world.

>hows it running in sideways modes btw?
Amplitude drops a bit so it'll run faster, like +10-15s a day, so I set the dial up/down positions to be a bit slow to compensate. I'll check it again after a day when the oils have spread around a bit more.

https://www.watchestv.com/boutique/equinox-sundial
wew

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Omega or IWC Schaffhausen?

>>61980991
omega

>>61980792
>although they arent the best movements to learn watchmaking.
How so? Not really trying to learn watchmaking (as in, the complete deal), but I'd guess you'd need quite a bit of understanding of how those things work.

>i do service my own watches, but im spoiled with fancy tools and machines at school. after about half a year of watchmaking school i felt confident enough to service my own watches.
Damn. But kinda expected for the full deal.
I'd assume adjusting it, I could easily do myself with some google-fu, but oiling a watch might already be quite risky, right?

>>61980792
Do you happen to know if anything can be done about the change in rate of a movement due to temperature (aka room temp vs worn)?

>>61980991
O M E G A

>>61980998
>>61981081
Is IWC that bad? Thanks for your input guys.

>>61980998
>>61981081
Damn, you are pathetic.
can't be an alpha, don't even aspire to be a beta, but you think a fucking omega is a good thing?
Fuck, you're so low, Chad will not even notice it when he walks right over you with his flock of Staceys

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Got this and set it yesterday against NIST Time.. its at +1 seconds a day and i went swimming and shooting with it already... fucking blowing my mind...

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>>61980541
Alright, assembled the Poljot. And I already see specks of chrome flakes and corroded case material on the dial FUCK!!!

This old plated case is beat and corroded to shit, so whenever the caseback or case bezel snaps in place a bunch of crap falls off.

>>61981109
Implying Omega is not the Ultimate Chad Brand UCB*(tm). The new Omega Speed Master is 44.25 x 16mm thiccc. The Sea Master 45.5x16.9mm thicc...... What else would chad wear?

>>61981471
Chad doesn't wear puny girl's watches from relatively unknown grandpa brands. Only the highest quality Diesel and Fossil timepieces with at least 55mm diameter will Chad's delicate right wrists accept.

>>61981471
>Implying Omega is not the Ultimate Chad Brand UCB*(tm).
That's a funny way of spelling Panerai.

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>>61981513
This. Only the brave FUCKERS

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>>61981580

>>61980937
>>61981323
master regleur in the making desu.
did you clean the case beforehand? an ultrasonic cleaner might get rid of all the loose flakes

>>61981014
vostoks use a lot of (smart and effective) cost cutting methods that would seem convoluted, and probably make it less fun to tinker with.

>>61981051
its called temperature compensation, modern movements use low temp. coeff. alloys on the balance and hairspring. older movements used bimetallic balance's

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>>61981701

>>61981720
Soaked it in solvents and then gently brushed it. I fear the ultrasonic cleaner will eat the chrome off of the corroded parts.

Any watchmakeranons here? Got any opinions on pierce cal 134? Found one at a rather low price, but it looks like a nightmare to service at first glance.

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>>61981724
>>61981701
>>61981580
>>61981513
>>61981471
Step aside plebs, ultimate chad piece coming through

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Anyone else use Anchor tools? Just spent half an hour flooding everything in WD-40 to get the packing grease off a new Jaxa-wrench.

Why the hell do the Indians use packing grease on watch tools, like they're fucking rifles? Even simple springbar tools come coated in this shit.

>>61981778
wut the fuk is that

>>61981813
fuck no chinkshit or bust

>>61981842
I hope you're sarcasmposting, fammy. Chink tools are fucking garbage 99% of the time.

Anchor is no Bergeon, but at least they're usable.

>>61981861
I do not live in England so the cost savings are not there for me and I genuinely do not like Indian shit.

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>>61981828
>THICC

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>>61981910
Am i suppose to wear that on my head?

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>>61981930
It's clearly a dress watch m8

>>61981947
LUGS DON'T OVERHAND SO ITS NOT TOO BIG RIGHT GUYS.

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>>61981910
>only 22mm thin
Step aside small fry.

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>>61981592
>>61981701
>>61981724
>>61981910
>>61981930

you are like little babies

luckily i am not a wristlet like you guys

>>61980051
Apparently daffd Ellis in wales is the go to guy according to watchuseek people.

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>>61981910
>>61981930
>>61981939
>>61981947
>>61981961
>>61981972

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haha check out my oversized watch. Fear me wristlets your reckoning has just begun

Should /wt/ move to /r9k/?
The autism level has crossed the borderline already.

>>61982088
just filter "Seiko" and you should be fine

>>61982103
Honestly people complaining about Seiko are more annoying then people who post their Seikos here.

>>61982193
na they aren't seiko fags are delusional as fuck.. that's why so many people started complaining about them. seiko fags created the anti seiko fag.

>>61982204
>>61982193
>>61982103
Memeing aside what's wrong with seiko? As someone who got their first watch recently (SKX007) I have no complaints. Frankly I'd definetly have preferred setteling for a Rolex or Omega, but for 200 that's a damn fine watch and I don't see any competitors who're equal.

>>61982235
Nothing at all. But when people start saying Seiko is the best brand in the world and its finishing is better than all other Swiss brands and none of their watches are too big or over priced or no other brand could possibly be better value for money in any price bracket... people get annoyed.

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Got this at an auction and changed the bracelet. Bocтoк Кoмaндиpcкиe Aдмиpaльcкиe. Where are my pyccкиe brothers?

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>>61982456

>>61982235
You see this..

>for 200 that's a damn fine watch and I don't see any competitors who're equal


The Orient divers are objectily better watches in every way and are less expensive
The Invicta uses a better seiko movement has the same water resistance rating and better case finishing. it costs less than half the price.

etc..... the skx is way overpriced for what it is. seiko even sells a better diver for the same money (monster)

>>61982456
what the fuck

>>61982543
you don't like the USSR/NATO combo? :^)

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>>61982456
Rate my soviet shitters

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>>61982258
Here is a novel thought. How about instead of people spending energy getting butthurt about people liking Seiko and constantly shitposting and being antagonistic they spend it posting about watches they like?

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>>61982625
>what time is it?
>lightning bolt o'clock

>>61982637
don't come after me about it faggot. .. change has to come from both sides

>>61982655
>>61982258
I don't think anyone here has said they are the best brand in the world. Stop putting hyperbole words in peoples mouths. I cannot speak for everyone, but I think Seiko is a respectable brand and make some decent watches with interesting designs at decent prices.

Post your organizational solutions watch anons. Need to store my parts.

>>61975756
now THAT's a slick watch.

>>61982726
shut the fuck up .. everyone has seen the seiko posting...

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>>61982655
>complains about a non-existing problem
>"I won't stop until the problem goes away!"
Oh wow. Do you have custom pronouns too?

>"Hi, I'm anon and I identify as a big fucking faggot, my pronouns are fe/fi/fo/fum."

>>61982738
>the seiko posting...
Perhaps r/watches on Reddit is more up your pozhole, queer-kun.

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>go to ebay
>search for "the watch that will impress everyone on /g/"
>this is the first result (not including a gluten free cookbook)

well, /g/, would I be top dog of /wt/ if I bought this?

>>61982625
You should go to your local watch dealership and get the glasses polished, the difference is amazing and it's not that expensive. I like the designs, but the left one is in English, not really a fan of it

>>61982760
Do you like it?

>>61982760
This board is for technology not fashion.

What are some good styles of watchface for my Galaxy Gear S2?

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>>61982760
Datejusts are nice, anon, especially that all-steel/white dial one. But if you're a poorfag then you can get the Seiko 5 someone posted a while back. It kinda looks like a Datejust homage.

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>>61982731
I have this. It will take a while until it fills up, though I only store movement parts, replacement movements, and donors in it. Springbars, gaskets, all that shit have separate places.

>>61982518
>invicta
kek

>>61982894
You service your own watches I take it?

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>>61978449
pls respond

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Just bought this Seiko Superior 7S36-0090. Never heard of this one before, I got it for $80.

Thoughts?

>>61982940
I literally own both.. try them both out and then come back to me

>>61983119
Probably could have gotten a similar brand new Seiko 5 for the same money.

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>>61983038
Yes, and it's also my job. Though 90% of all jobs is just batteryniggerdom.

Current service jobs are a Poljot, a "digital" Sicura, and an electronic balance Yantar wall clock. Also I got my own Amphibia taken apart for a cleaning.

Other jobs are two movement swaps (basic quartzshit that's more expensive to repair than to just swap out) and some other garbage that wants to fall apart.

>>61982749
kill yourself I don't do either type of posting you faggot.

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>>61983163
Wow. Angery.

>>61983103
kys pls

>>61983103
Run of the mill swatch chrono with a dead brand on the dial and modified valijoux 7750 inside.

>>61983143
I thought it was kind of neat though. Normally I don't like watches with "gold" done like it is on that Seiko which I just bought.

I can't find much info about the watch online.

What are some good skeleton watches?

>>61983419
There's no such thing as a good skeleton watch.

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>>61983300
Is it really that terminal? Looking for a 38mm or less chronograph. I was also thinking a Speedmaster automatic

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>>61983419

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>>61983419

>>61983419
Vacheron Constantin 14-day tourbillon openworked.
Anything you'd order from Voutilainen, Dufour or Greubel Forsey.

>>61983523
Technically impressive but looks ugly as fuck to wear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAA3OaiP_x8

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Thoughts on G-Steel watches by G-Shock?

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who recommend the Casio F-91W to me? this thing is great! it's cheap, so i can actually wear it around without coming off as a rich guy. any other watches like it i should keep an eye out for?

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>>61982851
whut?

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>>61982650
Found the watch for u familia

>>61982784
Thanks for the tip anon, though i might just do it myself since they are acrylic crystals.

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>>61983119
the two tone

>>61983739
Yeah, that, I didn't have that image saved. But they're both the same watch, the SNXJ89K.

>>61983712
>Tissot
>rich

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>>61983812
hoping to get it this week with some extra cash that's come in, yeah it's good enough for us poorfags but at least its no chink dogshit.

What are the best G shocks for outdoors and such?

>>61983918
dw5600
f105w

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>>61972980
There are never any pocket watches in these threads.
Do you have any?

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>>61983996
I have this old zenith

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>>61983996
My grandfather robbed a train conductor.

>>61983943
papa smurf

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>>61983996

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>>61974442
something with lume, because the sun won't be coming back

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>>61978832
one time this kid at university was certain that che guevara was a hero

i followed him back to his dorm and stabbed him in the ribs a few times then etched a swastika on his forehead for ironic effect.

This is, of course, a lie and not true. Even if it was true, it happened more than 7 years ago. ;^)

pic related: my face

>>61980051
ffs just send it in to omega for service/refurb/cleaning.

dont trust these gypsy jeweler fucks, I can't even imagine how much worse they are over in the cUKland

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>>61976512

>36mm
>bitchwrist TGV detected

>>61976621

Yes it's just like you're in an Anime fantasy becuase you're wearing a Jap watch. Disgusting.

>>61984028
>>61984035
>>61984204
nice timepieces.
what would it take to wear one?

>>61982726

That's the thing bro- everyone here probably owns a Seiko, except 95% of us aren't delusional enough to think buying a $5000 Grand Seiko 5 is somehow making us earn a PHD in horology. We also get that while some people may like the boring styling, the rest of us don't see how you can justify buying a $5000 seiko that looks like most sub $500 seikos.

We also aren't deluded into thinking that whatever watch we own, doesn't have a chink part or two inside of it. Even your nip overlord Seiko fags got blown the fuck out when SARB's were found to have chink cases.

>>61984486
>what would it take to wear one?
The nonexistence of wrist watches

>>61983787
What exactly is wrong with two tone?
Would the watch look better in your opinion with perhaps a perlon strap or something?

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>>61983996
>Do you have any?
Yes. From my great grandfather or such. I just keep it in storage, because you can't throw such things away, but if I want to grab into my pocket to see the time, I can just use my phone.

>Clocktowers
>have to walk somewhere you can see it or wait for the ole bing-bong to know the time
>this sucks, but human ingenuity got us the:
>Pocket watch
>grab into pocket to know time
>this sucks, but human ingenuity got us the:
>Wrist watch
>Just look at your wrist thats in your view more or less anyways
>this is great, but fuck that, so:
>mobile phone
>grab into pocket to know time
>PERFECTION
really makes u tink

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>>61984630
Look you don't have to like it. And if I eventually get a Grand Seiko I am not buying it to try and tell others I am a PHD horology whatever. I am getting it because I find the watch interesting.

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>>61981884
in terms of watchmaking tools, curryshit is a good compromise between chinkshit and swisshit.

i use that caseback wrench. it flexes and the jaws get worn too easily, but it works decently.

I just wouldn't recommend chink/ curry srewdrivers or tweezers. Always strive for bergeon if you can.

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>>61972980
Fresh oc coming through.

How accurately does this pic describe the current watch threads?

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>>61983996
Two family pocket watches (1880s and 1920s), plus the 1930s stopwatch

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>>61985291

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>>61983996

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>>61983996
Another family watch

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<-

>>61985395
Can you recommend me a entry level dogshit watch?

>>61985204
Needs one slightly blurry wristshot that's 70% background.

>>61985395
>minute repeaters, annual calendars start to appear at $5000-15000
Maybe a grade 2 Omega or IWC entry level annual calendar.
This is pretty poor bait for all the effort put into it.
>scale doesn't

>>61985395

Oh god, my favorite brand for being a mid 20's faggot who isn't making bank yet is Stowa and they're basically the JUST category, fuck me dead

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Thoughts on colorful NATO straps a la DW?

>>61985827
Some of them are alright, but perlon are better.

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Thoughts on this?

>>61985882
Hey anon nice Rolex I-
... Oh...

>>61985527

I think you have trouble comprehending the words "start to appear" if you then go on to describe exactly that.

It's okay though, I know you're one of the really bitter shitter owners who doesn't have your pet brand getting it's dick sucked.

>>61986016
Curious to see a picture of your watch collection. You sound like you must have a superb collection.

>>61984035
story?

>>61985882
invicta mod? nice howd you get the writing off the side.

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>>61985827
>Buying a Denzel Washington

>>61986016
I don't own a single Seiko tho.
Admittedly English is my third language, but wouldn't it "start to appear" where the absolutely lowest cost ones are, and I don't know of wristwatches with minute repeater complications cheaper than used ~$35k IWCs

>>61982204
Oh look, its the ellipsis using resident shitposter who spends all his time shitting up /wt/ defending Swatch Group shitters and knowingly and deliberately lying about Seiko and slinking out of the thread every time he gets dumpstered.

LIke the first time he tried to pretend that Seiko movements are impossible to service, and then after getting BTFO's isntead tried to claim the 6r15c is vastly inferior to a standard or elabore grade 2824: https://rbt.asia/g/thread/61438568/#61442917

Or the time he lied his ass off trying to suggest that Seiko was shit because an optical trick made it seem like the hands on a vintage Lord Marvel were misaligned, and then slinked out of the thread when it was conclusively proved he was lying his ass off: https://rbt.asia/g/thread/61588255/#q61589918

Or the time he tried to claim that the difficulty of producing a finish or the amount of handwork involved was not a fair measure of finishing quality when trying to attack GS finishing relative to Rolex, and then slinking out of the thread when it was pointed out to him that haute horlogerie would be of no value over Rolex then: https://rbt.asia/g/thread/61910727/#q61916731

Can you please stop shitting up every /wt/ with your knowing and deliberate shitposting and lying? I'm getting tired of dumpstering you every thread.

>>61986349
But all the cool kids wear them

>>61986438
I am only one of those people faggot

>>61986438
also never slinked out of a single thread and you have not won a single point against me specifically. You are a faggot.

>>61986438
He or someone similar already got BTFO this thread about Chronometer testing.

>>61976416
>>61976614
>>61976756

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>>61986277
I guess it would be my great great grandfather, actually.

During the Depression he was a bit of an outlaw and he ended up robbing a train conductor at gunpoint . Details are hazy and that's really all I know, unfortunately can't ask anymore.

Beautiful timepiece though, and in good working order.

>>61984630
> We also get that while some people may like the boring styling, the rest of us don't see how you can justify buying a $5000 seiko that looks like most sub $500 seikos.
I don't understand why you get offended at being called an horological pleb when your own post explicitly admits that the only criteria you care to judge watches on is their exterior aesthetic appeal and how much imagined "prestige" marketing has succeeded in imbuing into the brand name.

People who cannot distinguish between the technical merrits of watches and movements and their aesthetic appeal or branding are precisely horologocial plebs, by definition.

>>61986468
Sure you are, there must be a sudden epidemic of /wt/ shitposters using double and tripple periods in their posts :^)

>>61986546
I have had multiple discussion on wt about swatch group ruined omega i have hated on eta and talked about how i liked seiko movement even though i used an eta in a few watches i put together.

>>61986546
never talked about misaligned hands either in case you wanted me to narrow it down more.. and You don't know shit about finishing and your argument made no sense.. you are terminally fucking retarded. you fat fucking Canadian faggot.

What Casio watch should I get?
I'm looking for something like a F-91W in stainless steel but also has a timer and a better light that covers the entire screen. 50M water resistance is also recommended.

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>>61986590
>..

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>>61986506
>>61986506
>He or someone similar already got BTFO this thread about Chronometer testing.

This is what Seiko males literally, actually believe. Let that sink in, people.

>>61986601
Casio no longer makes any stainless steel cased watches, the silver ones are chromed resin with cheap metal bracelets.

>>61986627
What do you recommend instead?

>>61986652
Virtually no one makes steel cased digital watches anymore, unfortuantely. If you really want a steel cased digital you would have to go vintage. If you are flexible on the steel cased aspect, there are lots of Casios that aren't much more expensive than the F-91 but have full electroluminescent backlights and 50m water resistance. What's your budget?

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>>61986601
This Pulsar digital has a solid steel case.

>>61986620
I honestly can't take them or their circular baseless logic anymore. Half those fuckers must suffer from illusory superiority based on their posting history. They also think everyone trash talking seiko is one person lol.

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>>61986546
>I don't understand why you get offended at being called an horological pleb when your own post explicitly admits that the only criteria you care to judge watches on is their exterior aesthetic appeal and how much imagined "prestige" marketing has succeeded in imbuing into the brand name.
>People who cannot distinguish between the technical merrits of watches and movements and their aesthetic appeal or branding are precisely horologocial plebs, by definition.

Case and dial implementation and design are an important aspects of a watch. Putting a Breguet double-tourbillon into a steel brick with a viewing window milled onto the top is not the same as some finely designed, aesthetically interesting case + dial.

This shouldn't have to be said to begin with, but a lot of you guys have non-meme autism and legit have trouble conceptualizing why no one outside of weebs even want these boring as shit steel day-dates. With the exception of the Snowflake (which I like), most of the Grand Seiko are styled like a fucking Seiko 5.

What does /wt/ think about SmartWatches or Pebbles (RIP)?

>>61986601
Just get the a158 and pretend it's steel.
I have had one for 9 months or so and i ahve used it as a beater, still looking brand new.

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>>61986601
>>61986697
It also has 100m water resistance and standard 20mm drilled lugs. I've got one on a Strapcode super engineer.

>>61986349
I'm not buying a DW, I'm just using a red/white/blue NATO strap like in the leftmost watch because I thought it looked nice and summery, and goes well with Oxford shirts and the like.

>>61986741
>finely designed
>aesthetically interesting
>styled like
Thank you for proving my point.

I understand you don't like Grand Seiko styling, but that is not an indictment of their quality or finishing.

Hell, I can't stand the overwhelming majority of Zenith's, but you don't see me going around claiming Zenith's watches are garbage and that the El Primero is a shitty chronograph movement.

>>61985980
yeah but i made it, 1 of 1 phaggot

>>61986343
yeah, Invicta 8926ob mod, used a dremel and sanding bit to get it off, then had a watchmaker polish it

>>61986872
bro just step away. you simply do not understand

>>61986906
did you remove the bezel first?

>>61984630
>$5000 seiko that looks like most sub $500 seikos.
The fact that you think they look like one another only shows everyone how much of a pleb you are. To someone who knows and appreciates quality watches they look nothing alike.

>>61986872
>but you don't see me going around claiming Zenith's watches are garbage and that the El Primero is a shitty chronograph movement.

I have never once said anything bad about Grand Seiko movements.

>>61986936
to sand the logo off, no.

The watchmaker removed the bezel to get a nice, clean polish though. Not necessary however. If you want I can post some more pics.

>>61984630
>$5000 seiko that looks like most sub $500 seikos.
Seiko's fault really for making their cheap watches that good. Not every manufacturer is ran by slimy mountain-jews who intentionally gimp their lower-end models.

See the entire fucking Swatch Group pyramid.

speedmaster or daytona?

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>>61987037
>Seiko's fault really for making their cheap watches that good.

Most of their cheap watches you can't even fucking handwind and Seiko doesn't bother even attempting to line of chapter rings. And no, it's not just the Seiko 5.

This shit is exactly why people ridicule Seiko fanboys.

>>61987009
yeah i would love that thank you man.

>>61987108
i honestly don't know why you are even wasting your energy talking to that retard.

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>>61987058
I would go for the Speedmaster MOTFM over a Daytona, even though the Daytona has a technically superior movement, because I way way prefer the Speedmaster's styling.

Though I would--and did--go for a vintage Lemania 5100 Speedmaster over both.

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>>61987120

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>>61987058
I would probably go with the Speedmaster. Daytonas are too expensive right now.

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>>61987108
Most Swisscrap at that price range you can't handwind either. Because they're all quartz.

Go buy a $500 Tossit with a G10 movement, you fag.

http://www.chrono24.com/shellman/side-slide-minute-repeater--id1954783.htm
$1600 minute repeater with sapphire crystal and Camile Fournet cordovan strap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgsAgQYVGFk
Here's why.

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>>61987120
>>61987155
Dial and hands are from Dagaz Watch Limited, can't recommend them enough. J is great to do business with (better than yobokies IMO) Lume shot inbound

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>>61987120
>>61987155
>>61987216
Superluminova shot

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>>61987108
>Most of their cheap watches you can't even fucking handwind
That would be Seiko 5 models and SKXs. All of their mid-range models use the 4r or 6r which do hack and handwind.

>Seiko doesn't bother even attempting to line of chapter rings
That's only true on the SKX and Turtle, and yes, it is bullshit and they should fix it.

Incidentally, here is a good comparison an anon made showing just hot big a jump in finishing their is from the lower mid-range SARB line to the upper mid-range SARX line.

>>61987170
Do you want to know how I know you're an atheist?

>>61987216
Only ever heard good things about Dagaz, and that yobokies is an annoying pain in the ass to deal with. You should switch to sword hands with that dial BTW.

>>61987250
wow thank you so much for posting all this. I really appreciate it. I just ordered one of these and started wearing it yesterday and am already really glad i bought it despite my reservations about the branding.

>>61987286
sword hands? idk, really like the classic merc hands. Thanks for the advice though, maybe ill try it if i find some nice ones. Also Dagaz > Yobokies. Dagaz actually has a working webstore instead of Yobokies weird ass fucking photobucket system... Dagaz also has wayyy better lume (see>>61987250)

>>61987289
yeah, by itself its not a bad watch but honestly invicta is a shit company. Pro Diver is only thing I would consider buying because they made it so well. But frankly, it's a seiko movement, all they did was make the case/crystal. Perfect watch for modding. I would also recommend an aftermarket oyster, you can pick up a decent one for ~$50 on Amazon, look at "Miltat Oyster Bands".

>>61987274
Because atheists don't fall for Jewish scams?

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>>61987364
I just thought that sword hands like pic related would be a good stylistic match for those triangular indices.

>>61987465
fuck you're right, that looks much better, time to go spend $30 more! :P

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>>61987438
>he admits it

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I ended up just getting one of these and laying down drawer sticky bottom in each drawer. Works for now. I'll need to get labels though

>>61987594
You must be an Amerifat.

>>61987667
neat

>>61987465
>milsub
>bezel only has minute marks until 15 minutes

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>>61987748
>You must be an Amerifat.

And proudly! btw enjoy your Muslims, they're God's punishment. :^)

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>>61980792
are you at patek in NYC?

>>61987805
>tfw live in muslim and nigger-free country
BTW how's the watch industry doing? :^)

>>61987901
>BTW how's the watch industry doing? :^)

Bit of a slump currently desu.

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007 BOND 007 BOND 007 BOND 007

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>>61988265
>>61988280

yuck

>>61988410
The Omega and Bond relationship is quite embarrassing now

>>61987108
Reminder that Archie got cucked by at least one of his Asian exes.

>>61981323
Plated cases are honestly the worst part about anything that isn't an Amphibia.

>>61988724
That happened to Paul Pluta, not Archie Luxury.

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>>61988846
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>>61987170

>tissot is equal to every single swiss watch

kys