MacBook Pro 2015 or the 2017 touch bar noncesense?

>>61972469
Get the one with the relevant keyboard switches.

2015

If you want to have a soldered in everything go with the touchbar bullshit. if you just want to have a computer thats stupid expensive to fix, but you can still kinda fix / upgrade it.. go with the 2015

>>61972469
The 2017 version would be so sexy without the gigantic trackpad.

>>61972469
I like touchbar a lot. I thought it would be pointless but I prefer it over useless F-keys.

>>61972469
Do you want to live in the future while being stuck in the past or live in the present day?

>>61972596
I want current day bezels, colour gamut, weight and technology, with a sensible keyboard, SD card reader, port selection and battery life/capacity.

Is 700€ for late 2013 13.3" (i5/8GB/256GB) a reasonable deal?

>>61973450
for fucks sake buy a thinkpad and stick OSX on it.

>>61972469
touchebar is amazing for smileys on fb :3

>>61972469
neither

>>61973470
I'm on my 8th or so ThinkPad. I want something with a better display quality/performance/battery life ratio, PCIe SSD would be nice too. Newer X1c are way too expensive.

>>61972469
2015 and put extra cash on a faster processor. also, physical ESC key

>>61972553
This guy knows.