/pcbg/ - PC Bulding General

need to repaste cpu/gpu. air cooled, want non-conductive only

NT-H1 $6
Hydronaut $8
Kryonaut $12

Also why isn't noctua paste brown?

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>>61957574

threadripper is already cucked

>>61957574

>no i5's

>$200 i5-7600k is better in single and mc gaming than 1800x and below

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>>61957678

>>61957678
are they tied for 2nd overall?

>>61957678
>>61957710
gaymen gaymen gaymen gaymen

>>61957710
>mc gaming
meincuaf gaymin?

>>61957788
minecraft

>>61957796
mienquaf? plz play on my servar

>>61957776

look at the price

also memeripper mobos are over 300 dollars for the cheapest

more than 100 over 299x

so for 800 dollars you have a faster computer + the 1080ti which is also still the fastest GPU well over both VEGAs

vs 1300 right off the top for just the CPU and Mobo memeripper (all other ryzens are even slower than just this CPU)

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I have a 1000W semi-fanless PSU powering my 500W system. It is fanless most of the time, but sometimes under heavy load it turns the fan on. It's currently in my system upside down, with the fan pointed downwards breathing through the bottom of my case.

If I flip it up to face upwards, will it run cooler and turn the fan on less often? I get this kind of sounds like a 'go do it and find out xdddd' thing, but I have my cable management set up to where if I turn it around I'd need to undo a bunch of my cable management, and I can't be bothered. I'm also a bit concerned about it breathing hot air onto my GPU.

>>61957625
come to /pcbg/ to ask a pc building related question
>>61957678
>>61957710
>>61957769
>>61957777
>>61957788
>>61957796
>>61957810
a bunch of know nothing pubescent shitposters instead
>>61957859
it will run the coolest breathing ambient air. make sure the filter is clean, nothing is blocking the exhaust is the best you can do as long as there is sufficient space under to breath

>>61957930
quit being an angsty retard anon.

No one wants to answer your shitty question

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>>61957930

>know nothing

I'm about to get $1000 from an insurance company for damages to my car(which wasn't much anyway, so I will have about 500 left). Which GPU is better to buy? The Vega 56 or the 1070? Is it worth supplementing some more cash for a 1080 or a 1080ti?

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>>61957930
>>61957972

>>61957983
i would just get the 1070, because more options and reference card no. 1080 or 1080 ti depends on what you will be using it for.

If i wanted to build a PC instead of
>>61957818

What should i be getting?

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>rx560
>power gap
>1050
>power gap
>1050ti
>power gap
>1060

how fucked are budget builders right now when this is the shit you are forced to pick from? literally meme shit until you get to the 1060

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I swapped my old GPU into my new PC, so my old PC is otherwise complete, just minus a GPU.

CPU is FX-8320, any suggestions for what to do with it? What would a ~$50 gpu be like? Should I consider used GPUs? What do, /pcbg/?

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>>61958064
Similar question here but on a i5-2400...
I only got $50-60 bucks to spend because im a literally burger flipper at McDonald's...i dont mind buying used

>>61958002
>its better because user benchmarks lists higher clockspeeds

Kek

>>61957972
>>61958002
I'm not debating your claims, but being able to use snip and knowing that one number is bigger than the other doesn't actually constitute a lot of pc building knowledge. There are plenty of threads to shitpost in children

Got the hydronaut.
Here's a good list for anyone shopping thermal compunds
http://overclocking.guide/thermal-paste-roundup-2015-47-products-tested-with-air-cooling-and-liquid-nitrogen-ln2/6G

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Is the i3-7100 still good for a browsing/office pc? Is there something with better tdp on the horizon?

>>61958092
No integrated GPU?

>>61958108

>im not doubting the facts
>continues to dance around

>>61958102

>its better because these actual real world tests show its consistently better, kek

>>61958129

>buying an i3 for browsing

the 3930 is all you need

>>61958025
Will be using it for some gaymes and video. But between the Vega 56 and 1070, are there any advantages one has over the other?

>>61958092
>>61958064
GTX 750 Ti, GT 1030, or RX 550. Whichever is cheaper in your area.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=396,164,394&sort=price&page=1

>>61958167
If you live in a cold country, the Vega56 can double as a heater. And if you buy the reference card and have tinnitus, the card can generate loud white noise for you.

>>61958161
The price is so close to the G4560 though. I want this system to basically last forever.

Im hopeless when it comes to this, can anyone recommend me a build that's ~750-850$ ? Living in eastern europe means everything's comparatively a lot more expenisve and i can't afford a lot. I just wanna game, feelsbadman

>>61958200
Buy a console

>>61957574
>Invents a new computer
EXCUSE ME

>>61958198


the 3930 has 4k support and costs 40 dollars

>>61958223
b-but i can do more things with a pc

>>61958227
I'm currently inventing a new high tech computer aimed towards business professionals Kappa

>>61958250
im sorry what is a 3930?

>>61958251
Sure but with that budget and the inflated price of everything else you are not going to get a PC that is stronger than a console for gaming.

>>61958142
I'm not dancing around, I don't give a shit about your hardware warz. Yes one is faster, keen observation. Let me react to this because it affects me personally so greatly.

[ ] ETERNALLY BTFO, [ ]FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>61958280
this this this desu

>>61958280
is there any chance prices are going to drop in the future? For example when the cryptocurrency thing dies down?

So do we have any more deets on when coffee lake is dropping?

I really want to start building a computer but I'm just sitting here doing nothing until that and a compatible motherboard is released.

>>61958064
>>61958092
Save 50 more dollars for the 1050.

>>61958062
You're forgetting that the 1060 3GB and 6GB models are different cards as well. One is stronger than the other. It's more like

>RX560
>1050
>power gap
>1050ti
>power gap
>RX 570
>1060 3GB
>power gap
>1060 6GB
>RX 580

>>61958335
ram and ssd prices slated for price drops in 2019, gpus who knows, rx prices are coming down and production will prob ramp up for holiday sales. just hope for eth and alt coins to drop.

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>>61958062
>1050ti
I would have bought a 570 but all these fucking miners ruined it for everyone and i had to switch to the green team, probably got like 6 months before it becomes obsolete through drivers

Who else is excited for Coffee Lake? I think it could be the next Sandy Bridge.

does anyone have a suggestion for a monitor stand that clamps to the desk (so no base that sits on the desk) and can support 3 monitors, 24" - 27" - 24"? also theres a board near the edge of my desk in the back, so the actual clamp cant be too deep into the desk if possible.

Also general tips for what to look for in a computer stand? Never used one before, trying to save some space on my desk now.

>>61957574

can /g/ tell me why you conveniently left out the i7-7820x from the gaming benchmark, yet have it in all the others?

http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/08/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-1920x-vs-intel-core-i9-7900x/

>site called logical incriments
>listing the 1300x as being faster than the i5-7600K which is within $10 in price and faster

>>61958774
Didn't you know? This board has a hard on for AMD products. Hell, they'd even get railed up the ass with a strap-on, as long as the strap-on was AMD made.

>>61958774
Because if you even consider x299 platform you deserve to be called an idiot. Older Intel platforms offer much better value.

>>61958774
First time on /g/? This is AMD land boy. Despite the Vega being shit, you don't see many people shitting on it compared to say the 3.5 fiasco.

Would a 1080 Ti be bottlenecked by an overclocked 2600K?

>>61958142
>real world
>userbenchmarks

>>61958907
No. As long as you are not playing on 1080p.

>>61958945
1440p60

>>61958850
>>61958857
>>61958878

>bringing up x299 when threadripper mobos start at $330

also i just noticed that LI finaly updated their reference CPU on the front page but its the $1300 i7-6950x which is SLOWER than the i7-7820x and 2x as much money

but then they couldnt have their lil description text when you hover over ryzen CPUs as being "omg just as good and 50% cheaper!"

when theres a 500 dollar intel CPU thats actually faster in gaming across the board right now

>>61958949
It will be fine

>>61958984
Thanks :)

>>61958878
>>61958850
>>61958774

>"there totally isn't anyone shitting vega, why isn't intel being recommended"
>vega being shit proves that intel is worth it
>muh amd boogeyman

Every thread, like clockwork.

>>61958945
>>61958949
It will still bottleneck and bottleneck hard. My 1070 was on like 40% gpu utilization with a Haswell i5 which was overclocked in battlefield 1. My cpu is probably more powerful than yours and my gpu is much less powerful than a 1080 ti yet still gets bottlenecked at 1440p

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>>61958774
>7800

gee, i have no idea why its not recommended

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>10 core Intel CPU runs hotter and draws more power than 16 core AMD CPU

>>61959049
but vega is shit so buy intel

>>61959020
I don't play BF1, isn't that a CPU intensive game anyway?
I play/gonna play Witcher 3, Overwatch, NieR, Forza 7, Far Cry 5...

>>61959059
Make sure to pick 7350k because it has overclocking and single threaded is all that matters.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3023-aib-partners-to-gn-yes-vega-price-will-change
>Vega64
>Louder, hotter, worse than 1080
>About to be priced at $599 making it officially more expensive than a 1080
>Reference design and not AIB
>1 year late
>Poor Volta
Alright folks. We have the bulldozer of GPUs here. People waited™ for this piece of shit.

AMD shill can you play remove the Vega NOW from the OP? There is literally no reason to buy a Vega.

>>61959049
I can't wait to see how much Intel fucks up the 18 core. It wont be content with being just a housefire.

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My new build wont turn on guys. I put everything together, and plugged it in, and it didn't turn on. Everything is plugged in correctly too and the power supply is on. I will take it apart tomorrow and try it again, but I have a bad feeling it wont work

>>61959094
Ryzen?

>>61959113
yes

>>61959124
RAM on QVL?

>>61959154
If it wasn't that would only affect speed and not cause the system to be unbootable. My guesses are either mobo or PSU being dead on arrival.

>>61959061
Just search YouTube for people with similar configurations to what you want I.e. 2600k + 1080 ti.

I'd only get the 1080 ti if I knew I'd be upgrading my cpu within the next year or so but I'd get something like a 1070 or at max a 1080 if I know I'd be keeping my processor for like 3 more years because your chances of being bottlenecked is high with that old i7 paired with the 1080 ti so you're essentially paying for performance you won't even be able to take full advantage of and by the time you upgrade that cpu in 3 years the next set of gpu would have been released with 1080 ti performance at half the price.

>>61959074
>Vega SOON meme posted for months
>Vega NOW added as a joke

Notice that its not actually recommended at any tier?

>>61959176
>If it wasn't that would only affect speed and not cause the system to be unbootable
Wrong. Google shows RAM not being on the QVL causing the system to be unbootable. That is largely dependent on your motherboard and the bios version it has but it can happen

>>61959094
did the fans spin?
have you tried pulling the CMOS?

pull the battery and wait at least 10 mins and try again

post full build as well

>>61959194
How about Vega NEVER?
That is a better joke and actually factual

>>61959154
fuck I don't think it is

>>61959185
I'm going to get a 8700k around xmas.

>>61959203
>>61959154
>>61959197
Fans do not spin nothing turns on. My ram module pin is not on the QVL, just checked

>>61959207
Well. It might be the motherboard, it might be the PSU, it might even the RAM. What happens what you say "it didn't turn on". Nothing happens when you hit the power button? Or power up and then power down?

>>61958227
I knew that would have triggered one of you fuckers. I remember when the article first came out and a bunch of /g/ exploded. I still laugh at this shit.

>>61959238
Sounds like a PSU issue.
Did you turn on the switch on the back of the PSU? Stupid question but I have seen people forget about that.

>>61959243
>>61959256
Literally nothing happens nothing turns on nothing spins no lights

My current build has an FX-6350 and a 760, is there any reasonable upgrade that doesn't involve replacing the mobo? If not I'll probably just start a new one from scratch and give this one to my brother or something.

>>61959293
Recheck your connections. Again make sure the switch on the back of the PSU is on. And if still nothing, start with the PSU first. It is probably the PSU.

>>61959293
Another dumb question, are the front panel connectors plugged in or did you accidentally plug them in wrong? Plugging them in wrong mostly just switched what the buttons do.

>>61959205
agreed, but whatever i didn't make the OP

>>61959238
pull the cmos if you havent already, wait a full 10 mins for it to die and then check the front panel again like >>61959321 said

>>61959321
That is why you always test bench your build first before putting it into your case. Most modern motherboards should have a switch on it to turn it on otherwise just jump the power connectors.

>>61959317
>>61959321
The front panel connectors are correct, I checked a couple of times. I will check the PSU tomorrow.

>>61959342
I will try this now

>>61959212
1080 ti should be alright then. I wouldn't be so sure about the 8700k being out by then though

>>61959074
Where is that faggot arguing with me about Vega MSRP a few day ago? I want to laugh in his face again.
Vega is dead and buried.

>>61959381
Intel is having a big Coffee Lake announcement on Monday so I'm hopeful.

Is anyone doing a threadripper with ECC ram build? It's on my todo list but no mentions of ECC except that it is supported.

Is it worth to pair an M.2 ssd with an i5 6600k?

>why would you ask this question?
My motherboard came with an m.2 slot and never noticed until literally today
>how
I was poor alright? didn't have money for fancy stuff back then.

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>GeForce 1060 is too slow
>GeForce 1080 is too expensive
>GeForce 1070 has an uneven digit\

>>61959696
Just stick with SSD.

I'm shoving a new power supply and a GTX 1060 into a 5 year old prebuilt. Should I be worried about anything?

>>61959777
Plenty. CPU blockneck for one.

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>>61959089
>I can't wait to see how much Intel fucks up the 18 core. It wont be content with being just a housefire.

>>61959385
underrated post. Vega is DOA since February, HBMeme is a mistake, this card is CGN Fiji 2.0

What components do you guys recommend in the $2000 range for a seedbox? My plan is to build around a bunch of shucked 8tb wd easystores. Should I go for a server rack instead if I want to expand heavily?

>>61959911
>2000 dollar
>Seedbox
Just go rent a real server if you have that kind of money to throw around. You get to seed 24/7 without it eating into your bandwidth.

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Building a PC [spoiler]for my Dad[/spoiler].
He's pretty dead set on using a RoG Poseidon Platinum GeForce GTX 780 he already has on hand as the GPU, so I tried to make a PC that would work with that. How'd I do? I mostly just copied another build but I did swap out the OS and I'm going to use a different brand of GTX 780.
Any glaring problems I missed? [spoiler]I'm not really a /g/uru but I figured this would be the best place to ask.[/spoiler]

>>61959942
Oh, spoilers are disabled on /g/. The more your know, I guess.

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Are there any motherboards with cool/unusual features worth noting?

Also is DVI on its way out? A lot of mobos with integrated graphics seem to be skewing toward HDMI

What is the best 1080 model?

I just built a new build around a 1080ti, I've yet to upgrade my monitor because I can't decide between 4k or 1440p what do

>>61959942
I assume the parts you have no price on are the parts you already have?
No need for a AOI, a good air cooler will do.
>173 dollars mid tower casing
No.

Get a seasonic PSU

>5 case fans
What the fuck are you cooling/

>>61957574

Man, all American kids can invent is new clocks and this kid invented a whole computer.

>>61959940
$2000 might seem like a lot but it's mostly just the cost of drives. I plan to initially start with 50-60ish TB to give you an idea. As for a server, there are just no good high capacity options out there that are priced reasonably. Bandwidth isn't an issue for me either.

>>61959942
Switch AIO to air cooler.
Switch to a cheaper case.
Around 650w PSU is enough and you can safely drop down to gold rating and get Seasonic. They're the top dogs in this fight.
Pirate Windows.
Three fans are enough to cool everything and at least two should be coming with a case.

>>61959971
>I assume the parts you have no price on are the parts you already have?
Fuck, I didn't actually notice they weren't priced. I don't have them right now and I just copied the parts from another build.
>No need for a AOI, a good air cooler will do.
I just live in a hot area and my computer room has pretty horrible air flow. I don't want this computer to get absolutely baked.
>What the fuck are you cooling?
I'm going to shove a GTX 780 in this thing. I was playing it safe with all the fans and the water cooling.
>Get a seasonic PSU
>Reduce cost of case
Any recommendations on that front?

>>61959942
>using such an old architecture.
Eliminate the cooler.
AMD Ryzen 7 1700
Asus B350-F Strix motherboard
3200 mhz ddr4 memory, preferably G.Kill Trident Z

rest looks good

>>61960090
>I live in a hot area

AIO isn't gonna be a magic bullet that reduced your temps by half. You're still blowing the same air into the radiator or a heatsink. At first it's gonna seem like it is but that's just how water works, it takes about ten times the energy to heat water than copper but that works in reverse too, it takes far longer for it to cool down.

>>61959253
People are just having a laugh.
Seek professional help.

>>61960265
U wot m8? Say dat agen and oi'll hook u in da gabber.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074N1JN4F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
get it while it's hot

>>61960356
>Buying Vega
Fuck off AMD shill.

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>>61960118
>>61960108
>>61960089
How's this look?

>>61960384
Why R1700?
Why not R1600?

>>61960384
Could save some cash with a cheaper case.

>>61960384
The Ryzen 7 1700 is like $280
The Asus B350-F Strix is around $100 to $120 depending on whether or not it's on sale

Looks good other than the price

>>61960409
A 1600 would work as well (as well as being about $200), but the 1700 is more powerful. Not by much, but it is.

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awww yiss
ill have to resell the games though. that burned a hole in my wallet.

>>61960431
Yes the 1700 is more powerful but do you need that extra power? I seen too many people buy excess coolers or CPUs that they don't ever put to use ever.

gpu for a fx8350? i hate my hd7970 cause its so loud. thinking of getting a different cooler too since my 212 evo is so loud. maybe should i just replace the fan.

>>61960491
Vega64 so you can burn down your entire build and actually build something competent.

>>61960491
Honestly, stick with the 7970 until the GPU market stabilizes. It's still a great fucking card

Vega sucks and I don't want to wait for Volta to build. Should I just build what I want now and get a cheap 1060/1070 to tide me over until Volta?

What CPU is just good enough to make a 1080 the system bottleneck? Don't need one better than my GPU.

>>61960384
You can still save a bit by switching to 1600 instead of 1700 and going with 840 EVO.

>>61960547
there isnt an absolute bottleneck
it depends on what games or applications youre running

>>61960539
1060 6GB or 580

>>61960570
good fucking luck getting one even close to msrp. He already has an HD7970 which has performance similar to the 580

>>61960517
the cooler on it is shit house honestly. its way too loud.

>>61960579
>He already has an HD7970 which has performance similar to the 580
The 580 is a rebrand of a rebrand which is based on 7970 but please don't say stupid shit like HD7970 performance is similar.

>>61960598
you mean a rebrand of a rebrand of a rebrand that was based on the 7970

>>61957574
Yesterday I upgraded my pc, I doubled my ram to 16gb, added in a second ssd and a hdd. It's primarily an entertainment machine, ie gaming and movies and it worked fine all day yesterday, watched some netflicks and played with my rift for a few hours. However I've come to turn it on today and the hdd and power indicators are coming on and the fans are spinning up, however no power is getting g to my kb or mouse and the monitor is giving me a no signal message. I cleared my cmos and rebooted and I managed to get as far as the machine telling me that defaults had been loaded but on clicking continue the mouse and kb power down and the screen returns to no signal mode. Not sure if this is quite the right thread but I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do next, can anybody offer advice?

>>61960641
Yes a rebrand of 480 which is a rebrand of 390x which is a rebrand of 390 which is a rebrand of 290x which is a rebrand of 290. Regardless of the rebranding, it has actual improves. People say Pascel is a rebrand of maxwell all the time but the Pascal cards are so much better than maxwell. You can't expect them to come up with new architectures every gen.

>>61960660
You doubled your RAM right? Are they the same kit and model?

Why are all gsync monitors from acer and asus such ugly GAMUR xD garbage

And all the aesthetic monitors from other manufactures are all fucking freesync

FUCK

>>61960696
PG279Q isn't gamur garbage
XB270HU is pretty aesthetic and has Gsync

>>61960692
Yep, corsair vengeance, exact same models. And it worked for at least 6 hours yesterday.

>>61960680
Calling a 390x a rebrand of a 390 is like calling an 1080 a rebrand of a 1070. It's just a slightly higher clocked version of the same card but it's released as such, nobody claimed the x version of these cards where anything other than just the top end of that release.

>>61960722
Disconnect everything new you plugged in. Shouldn't be too hard. Open the case, unplug the sata and power cable from the SSD/HDD and RAM. Then boot and see if it works.

If it works, then add one item by item till it breaks.
If it doesn't, that means you could have broken your setup somehow while installing your new parts.

>>61957574
Please tell me aib vega 56 won't be over $500

>>61960680
>Yes a rebrand of 480 which is a rebrand of 390x which is a rebrand of 390
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>61960741
A more fair comparison will be 1080ti vs the 1080 but I get what you mean. Regardless my point is that AMD has been rebranding their cards for years. Calling the 580 (their latest rebrand) equal to the 7970 (original release) is kinda dumb isn't it?

>>61960752
It will be $499

>>61960568
>You can still save a bit by switching to 1600 instead of 1700 and going with 840 EVO.
I might. Since the computer isn't for me (and more importantly, I'm not the one paying) I'll have to ask my dad what he'd prefer to go with tomorrow.
Thanks for the help so far though, y'all. You've been kind.

>>61960747
Sadly o have to goto work now so I don't have time, but I'll have a go when I get home, gonna be pretty pissed off if it works but one of the new had don't as I transfered over 400gb over to it yesterday.

>>61960769
Nooooo ;.;

How much should I spend on a mobo for an r5 1600x?

>>61960761
By this definition the HD 5870 is a fucking 2900 XT rebrand. Your retardation is astounding.

>Not being on 32GB of memory

16GB is 2016

>>61960811
Yes. I am the one being retarded, not the one making statements like
>He already has an HD7970 which has performance similar to the 580

>>61960814
Call me when Ryzen has working 2x16gb 3200mhz kit.

>>61960814
There been barely any difference in me going from 8 to 16, the only reason I did is because I thought if I left it much longer it would be difficult for me to find the exact model of ram I already using.

On a Ryzen build, with ASUS PRIME B350M-A motherboard, do I have to update the firmware/bios/whatever to use RAM at full speed ? At QVL it says CMK16GX4M2B3000C15(Ver4.24) and I'm not sure what "ver4.24" exactly means

>>61960885
won't know until you try

>>61960885
Bios version probably

>>61960891
>>61960894
well just in case, how to properly check the ram speeds ? Should it be written somewhere on UEFI/BIOS or can I check when booted on win10 too ? I know that Speccy shows bullshit

>>61960445
hey shut up

all I do is watch anime and play league but my R5 1600 was worth it

>>61960118
I live in buttfuck florida, and my temps are fine.

My computer literally bakes when the sun is setting because it's right next to a glass door.

Don't see me complaining

>>61960908
Bios should show it

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hi /g/ I'm building my first gaming pc but I'm very noob at the subject. a friend ofnmine recommended me this mobo but is it good?

>>61960980
you read the op
you go to pcpartpicker and start a new build
you complete a build yourself
you post it here and we give feedback, maybe

good luck

>>61959790
My CPU is a i7 3770, you sure it would bottleneck?

Help used my freshly built computer for about a week and it stopped working. it doesn't boot, but it does spin the fans.
I've already reset the BIOS by reseating the mobo battery. I've also reseated the RAM, the hard drive, the CPU, the graphics card, and the modem card. I've also tried turning on the system without the pci card installed, still nothing. I have replaced the power supply as well.
Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo q6600
1050ti gpu
4gb ddr2
500w evga power supply (was a 350w lite-on ps)
1tb 7200rpm hard drive
some salvaged dell mobo

>>61957574
Would it be worth it to buy a full build now without a GPU and then wait a bit for a new GPU? I've got an old 7950 that (I'm pretty sure) works and could hold out long enough for GPU prices to drop. I just want to make sure that by the time I get around to a GPU everything else isn't cheaper too.

>>61961016
>Freshly built
>q6600

>>61960980
>amude
>gayming PC
No, it isnt.

>>61961016
Probably the salvaged mobo being fucked up

Ultrawide : meme or game changer?

>>61961049
Meme

>>61961049
rather higher resolution normal monitor

>>61961049
Ultrawide and 4k are memes untill you can afford 2-4 Titan XP or Pro Vegas.

Are the fans that come with the Define R5 any good? I want a quiet build and I'm not sure if I should replace the two stock fans with NF-A14s or if I'm just wasting money

>>61961060
PS: Same shit with 1:1 1920x1920 and so.
There is no VCs that can run games in such resolution with >30 fps.

>>61961049
Meme changer

>>61961016
Those mobos sometimes just die for no reason, had an old computer with pretty much the same specs (except the video card of course) and it just shit itself randomly while in storage.

>>61961036
Might as well wait for Zen+ and for DRAM prices to come down.

>>61961049
1080p = Budget-conscious, easy to manage

1440p = More money than sense

1880p = What the fuck are you doing?

2160p = To make this work you need to be covered by Republican tax cut plans.

help me decide on a mousepad

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YM6Vpb

>>61961074
>DRAM prices
>25$ for 8gb ECCReg
I dont think sellers will give it for free.
>wait for Zen+
"Need to wait some time" Amude. Waiting since 1969.

>>61961094
A 5 dollar one will do

>>61961094
Dunno if it's available to you, but Gembird mousepads are fairly normal and cost from 2 to 5 euros from small to fuckhueg sizes

Libreboot : meme or game changer?

>>61960680
480 and 290x are different architectures
390x was a rebrand of the 290x, 580 is a rebrand of the 480
Same with 570/470 and 390/290

>>61959777
Not really

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9TDyCy

My intention is to upgrade the GPU when volta arrives

Is it shit?

>>61961179
The gaming K5 sucks
Get the gaming 5 or K7

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>tfw no videocards for not retarded price in retail
Fug miners.

>>61961208
what sucks about it?

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>>61961209
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>61957574
If the miners are mass-buying AMD cards, wouldn't that put AMD on a good road to make better GPUs next time ?

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>>61961232
>Pot dealers desperately trying to find a new easy means to make money
>Not knowing crypto has scaling difficulty where the more people are trying, the less they're earning, and the more they earn the harder it is to earn more

For primarily gaming, i7 7700k or r7 1700? My gut says the 7700k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bBCkZ8
Likely changing drives to wd 2 or 4tb, and a samsung 250gb ssd

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>>61961232
>Burn the cards out for 3 months running at 100% GPU usage at 90C 24 hours a day.
>Sell on ebay as "barely used" for $100 over MSRP
>Some faggot on /g/ buys it because it's a "good deal"

>>61961224
VRM are far worse on the K5

>>61961246
Market penetration is a thing.
If all they do is sell to gamers, even if they do make a good GPU in the future, no one will buy it because they are already in the Nvidia ecosystem.

>>61961264
That faggot probably hunts squirrels on the weekend, I doubt he sells pot.

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Now, I'm no doctor, but I think something might be up with my RX 570.

>>61961272
ebay is a bad place to run scams like that because they literally always side with the buyer to the point where legitimate sellers don't even like selling on ebay anymore

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>>61961295

it's also making kind of a lot of noise...

>>61961294
He either sells pot, buys little briquettes of gold, or both.

>>61961295
>>61961315
if fans aren't turning on, it's because of the passive cooler feature, where shit doesn't turn on until 60C
Nvidia also has this
set a custom curve if shit gets hot

>>61961246
>Amude
>make better
No, son, it's sci-fi (c) russian advertise movie

>>61961295
It's a bug. My RX480 also had that.

>>61961268
1700X is better and smoother than that stutterfire

>>61961268
1700

>>61961339
no yeah, it's the voltages I'm wondering about. low of 40mV and high of 1.8GV? I know it's wrong, but is there any utility that can accurately show voltages? It's the XFX RX 570 if that means anything

>>61960885
Corsair vengeance ram has ic's from various vendor which might limit it from running at it's rated speed. It usually states the version on the qvl as well.

3.XX Micron
4.21 Samsung B-Die
5.29 Hynix

>>61961232
frys lines are the worst, there's always one guy not paying attention and holds up the line

>>61961179
Given the size of the D15 it'd be pretty well flush against the rear exhaust fan right? If I were to run the second fan there, instead of above the ram, would I need an exhaust fan at all? I could just use the exhaust fan as a second intake right?

>>61961445
Forgot to add, ryzen loves b-die so you should be good but updating your bios should also improved compatibility.

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>>61957574
Ignoring price, which is better,

A gtx 1070 or a gtx 980ti

>>61961496
Scratch that, ignoring price and rig, which is a better 1070 used:
EVGA or Asus?

>>61961496
1070 only because it'll do slightly better with DX12 in newer titles and uses less power.

>>61961552
Performance wise they'll be the same basically but EVGA has much better customer service in my experience.

>>61961554
Thanks anon

>>61961562
I found an ASUS 1070 on CL for 340 and it seems like a good deal, and the dude is giving me his receipt with it too, but I want to be able to not get a broken or screwed up card and all.

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>Trying to get my i5 4460 box working again
>People telling me to just get a Ryzen I can't afford

>>61957574
I would like an honest lowdown on Vega. There are too many memes floating around, can't tell who's trolling who.

If I care about power consumption and price (for decent performance, I don't have very high graphics requirements), should I go with an nvidia 10xx or amd vega card, and why?

>>61957574
holy shit, nigger invents a new computer? tell me about it!!!! this is ground breaking, probably the first thing of significance a blackie has every created for the betterment of mankind!!!!

>>61961590
Why?
Well Nvidia is cheaper, runs cooler and faster, uses less power and is readily available in stock.

What other reasons do you need?

>>61961590
If you need Freesync support or you do a lot of GPGPU/OpenCL work then you will probably want a Vega. Otherwise there is no reason.

>>61961590
nvidia because they have better price:performance and lower power draw? It's not a meme, my dude. Vega is a letdown and I wouldn't consider it until some magic benchmark comes out showing it blowing away the competition
>just wait for vega!
>just wait for drivers!
just buy a different card

>>61961609
>>61961612
>>61961615
I see, thanks anons.
I'm a beginner researching parts for my first build, just wasn't sure about graphics card brand

>>61961433
those seem more like erroneous voltage readings
if it was that high you would be in trouble by now

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What does the DT mean? Down-throttled? What does that mean technically?

Guys. I have everything picked out except a case. I can't find one that meets everything I want.

White and blue build, so a white case is necessary.
>white
>at least one, if not more, 5.25" bays
>supports ATX
>windowed side panel. no fucks given is plastic or tempered glass.
>PSU shroud
>not a bland box.
>USB 3.0 front panel i/o
>preferably under $100

Currently looking at an NZXT Phantom 240 and wondering about the cost of a custom PSU shroud for it...

>>61961638
Okay. So here's what DT means. De-tuned. Meaning it's basically a stock 1050 Ti but with a 6 pin and a better cooler.

>>61961638
Devil Trigger GPU.
Run it hot enough and you will gain the power of Sparta.

>>61961626
The brand doesn't matter, AMD makes great cards as well (still rocking a 280x in 2017)

It's just that Vega is a dud, and the only thing in the same performance bracket are those nvidia cards, or slightly lower performance with the 580 which is a great card but there is no way in hell you'll find it at the price it's worth.

>>61961641
You still haven't bought the case huh? I am going to suggest what I suggested the last time. P400S white, use the blue LED

>>61961638
It means that if you try to overclock it, it may or may not work.

>>61961675
>It's just that Vega is a dud,
I'm going to be laughing when they finally get their drivers up and running.
The same shit happened with the r9 200s, they had no fucking good drivers for ages and ages.
Navi will be using these drivers.

>>61961698
>Le sekrit drivers are le coming
>>>/r/amd

>>61961684
what drive bay?

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>>61961668
>Performance-based overclocking/underclocking
>Your graphics quality scales with your performance

>>61961707
nvidiot drivercuck
enjoy your house fire faggot

>>61961698
And in few years when Vega is finally worth anything, Nvidia has BTFO'd it. This finewine shit isn't worth anything. I'm not buying a card and waiting around for it to become good, I buy a card so it's great now.

>>61961710
>SSS rank because your Vega is on fire

>>61961707
you missed the part where I said ages and ages
while everyone else was on a 970, only then did the faggots on r9 200s get good drivers
it took an entire generation for the r9 200s to get good

>>61961718
>enjoy your house fire faggot
>uses vega

>>61961724
so you'll be laughing when you've waited the entire generation for the card to be able to compete with cards that were out a year before it?

>>61961724
No I didn't. It is simply more wait™ memes and fine wine™.

>>61961733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fypIzTPZujA
suicide watch

>>61961741
>with cards that were out a year before it?
2 years wait. Vega is already 1 year late.

>>61957574
anyone can make me a combo mobo/ram/cooler for a 1700x please ?

>>61961709
You tell us. Apart from the R5 and older Phanteks cases, no white cases with 5.25" bays exist

>>61961748
>Nvidia on suicide watch!
>Our new card is barely better than the 1080 despite being 1 year late and more expensive!

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Hmm. My GTX 745 is having an issue.

>>61961776
Turn your fans up

>>61961776
Adjust the fan curves, you fan speed should be at least 80% with those temperatures.

>>61961782
>>61961810
How?

>>61961821
Install MSI afterburner and then set a custom fan profile

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>>61961769
hence why I was looking at the NZXT Phantom 240. Only thing it's missing is a PSU Shrould. I was just hoping there was a case I'd overlooked.

I got the idea for that case when looking through options on ibuypowers website

>>61961755
>>61959942
thank you sir

>>61961827
Thanks. Fuck. Wonder if that contributed to my hardware failures.

>>61961864
Also, apparently something intercepted the drivers telling the fans to speed up. Gee. I wonder what thing that FUCKS WITH EVERYTHING IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO could possibly be responsible.

Any ideas, Microsoft? Any ideas at all?

do i have to worry about how old the wiring in my house is?

>>61961932
As long as the electricity sockets are grounded properly it doesn't matter. If you have a fiber network in your area then you'll need to be connected to it via fiber, but standard copper cables are good enough for ADSL or similar technologies.

1500$ budget.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tnVXcc

>>61961956
dont know what that stuff is
will i be able to run a gaming pc with new hardware without the house catching on fire if the wiring is probably 40 years old?

>>61961975
>40 years old
In terms of houses that's really not that old. You'll probably be fine.

>>61961741
you forgot to ask who I'll be laughing at
thanks for the (yous) this bait was 2easy

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>>61961975
If you have grounded outlets then it's fine.

>>61961971
What's up with the hard drives? Are two 1TB drives really cheaper than a single 2TB?

>>61962018
They're the same price, and sometimes it's convenient to have 2 drives instead of 1.

>>61962018
Not him but I dual boot on an SSD and then let each one have its own drive. Convenience and peace of mind.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202300&cm_re=vega_64-_-14-202-300-_-Product
>689.99 dollars
>Out of stock
Holy fuck. Is this AMD fanboys being fucking retarded? Or is this miners being fucking retarded? No way a 690 dollar card that runs that hot is worth buying for mining right?

Regardless, RIP to anyone who thinks he can find a Vega at a fair price. If you want to buy a GPU, buy a 1080 NOW. Before everyone who was waiting goes and buys one and its prices goes up or runs out of stock.

Also the Vega56 will probably NOT retail at 399.

>>61961264
that's why these faggot just jump onto a new cryptocurr when the old one gets too hard

>>61961232
>sunglasses on his back
okay

>>61962307
>No way a 690 dollar card that runs that hot is worth buying for mining right?
Vega has 3 times the hash rate of a 1080.

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>>61962307
>GTX 1080 is $600 in my country
>1070 is $490

>>61962307
i just pre-ordered one on amazon for the standard price

>>61962361
At 690 it is no longer competing with the 1080, that is 1080ti pricing and Vega64 has a higher power consumption rate.

>>61962390
>He bought Vega
>He bought Vega for 599

>>61962390
>100 dollars above MSRP
>"standard" price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMyBVY

Anything i can do to make better.
Trying to stay around or below 2k

>>61962390
If I bought a Vega, I won't brag about it. It is like bragging about buying an i5 except the i5 is overpriced.

>>61962423
Looks good enough for me

>>61962436
cool thanks

>>61962391
miners give 0 fucks what competes with what. They only care about the hash rate.
Vega is the best mining GPU out there.

>>61962410
>>61962398
it included 2 games that i'll just resell

>>61962442
have you been living under a rock for a week? miners want nothing to do with vega because of power consumption and the has rate isnt nearly as high as rumors said

>>61962442
Only retarded miners think that way. Miners absolutely care about power consumption and ROI.

>>61962444
>He thinks he can sell Prey and Wolfenstein for 100 dollars
Lmao. Even if you do, you are still a fucking idiot for buying a Vega in the first place. AMD cocksucker.

>>61962423
I'd get a cheaper 240mm AIO and a cheaper 1080, then use the savings for a high quality gold PSU

>>61962486
If you are going to get a cheaper AIO, you might as well just get a good air cooler.

>>61962495
any ideas for a good cooler?

Hey guys what are the two mobo's compatible with ryzen i forgot

>>61962509
NH-D15 noctua

>>61962495
The H100 is just overpriced. MasterLiquid 240 / Frostflow 240 perform about the same for less

>>61962515
X370 and B350

>>61962525
thanks you saved me

Why would you even waste money on a case. Just get a cardboard box and make one. Fully customisable and easy to carry.
/g/ is full of brainlets.

>>61957574
>an pentium, and overpriced amd gpus
Gee I wonder who's behind these threads.

>>61962532
There's also A320, but they can't overclock so no one touches them.

>>61962594
>pentium is bad because i say so

>>61962587
Cardboard box? Why even go through the the trouble?

>>61962587
Cardboard is flammable and my Vega runs hot.

>>61962607
I didn't say that. I was implying that the lack of intels, and the overepresentation of amd gpus (and cpus) is just a tad suspect.

>>61962525
>>61962596
Seems the Noctua - NH-D15 cooler doesnt fit any of those mobo's, any idea's?

>>61962644
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-SE-AM4-Premium-Grade-Cooler/dp/B01NC06ZYT

You need one with the AM4 bracket.

>>61962654
thanks man

Stop recommending the R3 1300x in the OP.
It's the same chip as the R3 1200 for 20$ more, takes about 5 seconds to bring on the same clockspeed.

>>61962641
oh, that's true
amd shills wanted to get rid of the g4560 many times now but the fact is that it's way cheaper and still good in games, in some games even faster than a 1200/1300x
also
>recommending a 1500x
>rx 570/580 listed with the prices they have
>no 1060 3GB
it's way too obvious

Are Gigabyte mobo's reliable or good?

>>61962486
is that good:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZpnD8

also is my ups good enough?

>>61962661
>>61962671
I think it is time we debated and came up with a fair and balanced edition of the OP.

Recommend some suggestions and lets stop AMD shills from hijacking this place.

fuck amd, intel4life

>>61962661
Ryzen chips are binned by voltage, which means the X versions (PROBABLY, #SiliconLottery) can OC a little higher and/or with better voltages
Which makes it worth the jump from a 1200 to a 1300X or from a 1400 to a 1500X because you still get the Wraith cooler

>>61962698
>fair and balanced
gtfo Hannity

>>61962698
throw rx 570 away and get a gtx 1060 3GB instead and throw the rx 580 away too
that's of course untill the prices get normal
when the new intel cpus come out you can also swap the 1200 with i3-8100

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>>61962745
>gtx 1060 3GB
>3GB

>>61957574
Why do you keep on suggesting r3 1300x when you can just OC 1200 to 4ghz with a few clicks and get the same performance?

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>>61962705

>>61962753
that's a great anime picture, any arguments?
people don't buy 1060s to play on 4k

>>61962767
3GB is pretty limiting on 1080p as well. There is a reason why the 1060 GB vs 3GB are considered different tiers of cards.

>>61962767
3GB isn't enough
I'd rather have a 1050Ti and shovel the extra money into better hardware elsewhere

>>61962759
>more cores in ryzen but can't keep up fps wise
>please buy our chips

>>61962786
>paying an extra couple hundred dollars for 5 more FPS

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>>61962778
the 3GB is also $50-$80 cheaper
>>61962781
any proofs? because i've got a ton of tests where the 1060 3GB is on average only 5-15% slower

>>61962786
>buying 4c/4t for 200$
>in 2017

>>61962801
Vega user are paying a extra couple hundred dollars for lesser FPS

>>61962801
>>61962806
atleast we can process the fragulator sequence correctly and not fuck up

>>61962806
>buying something only because it's made by AMD/INTEL and not because it's good

>>61962811
They save money on their heating bills during winter though

>>61962820
That money goes to fire insurance

>>61962831
No company is going to insure a house with a Vega card in it

>>61962811
Vega a shit
Ryzen+NVIDIA master race

>>61962845
Word.
R1700 + 1080ti master race here.

Which AMD Ryzen is the best overall?

>>61962854
R5 1600

>>61962854
Threadripper 1950X
But you assuredly don't need Threadripper for whatever it is you're doing, so please rephrase the question

>>61962867
what would the threadripper be used for?

>>61962854
in general, the Ryzen 5 1600 is the golden CPU of the entire line up. Anything more expensive than it will essentially give you diminishing returns on performance for the price.

>>61962883
but only 6 cores

>>61962867
link

>>61962891
Why do you need more than 6 cores?

>>61962881
Doing fucking everything at once.
gaming at 4k while listening to music while editing/rendering a video while 3d modeling

And you might even have headroom to spare.

>>61962901
in the future of gaming

>>61962881
Playing a high-end vidya game
AND
streaming it live to the internet
AND
encoding other media
AND
having a bazillion browser tabs open
all at the same time

The various Ryzen 7 chips are just a smaller version of this, with fewer PCIe lanes

If you just want to game, you don't need anything over a Ryzen 5

>>61962910
i want to produce music, play vidya games.
thats mostly it

>>61962891
6 cores, but 12 threads
It'll be more than enough for a while

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fHCcpb

Is there a better mobo I can go with for this setup?

Is going from an R5 1600 to a 1600x worth it? I do a bunch of music production and the higher base clock speed would be good for that I think

>>61962910
>>61962904
what cpu cooler would be good for it?