GNOME will win the desktop war

I'll stick to xfce.

>>61942137
But does it have thumbnails in the file picker?

>>61942137
GNOME should freeze its development until they fix their gtk file chooser

>>61942137
>Electron is also being ported
Which probably means chromium is going to be gtk3 as well, right?

Call me when I don't have to install addons to control basic shit such as hiding bars.

It'll be good once based canonical slaps it into shape like they did with gnome2.

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>>61942137
>Firefox is being ported to GTK3+
Why don't they just port it to qt5 so they can have a decent file picker?

>>61942597
and then the fucktards in charge of gnome decide to undo all of it

Shame, because KDE is the better DE.

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>>61942137
>GTK filepicker still hasn't been improved

>>61942601
Qt file picker is worse than that of gtk, it's KDE file picker you are thinking about

>>61942614

>new gnome4 introduces groundbreaking features such as a huge flying penis to penetrate your eye, 4k window decoration to maximize pixel utilisation and your desktop becomes a constantly spinning cube so you can multitask in realtime.

>>61942520
Electron being ported to GTK3 depends solely on Chromium getting ported on GTK3 first

>>61942817
I thought chromium used their own homegrown toolkit now (which has fucked font rendering lol)

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>>61942668
gtk4 probably

>>61942137
Joke's on you, I use KDE

>>61942991
sucks to be you, anon

>>61942137
Electron is being ported? Elaborate please. I'm a huge GNOME fan and I haven't heard of this.

I just wish that GNOME's stock apps were responsive. GTK4 maybe? Responsive window snapping that allows more than two windows is coming, but a lot of programs are going to be useless if you make them too narrow. Lollypop is honestly the only program I can think of that scales its interface.

tfw /G/nome+wayland master race

tfw official Xorg team and oldest living contributors (going back 13 years) moved to wayland

tfw GTK+, SDL, Clutter, Qt5, EFL backends

tfw Xwayland backend for Xorg

>>61942507
>But does it have thumbnails in the file picker?
Nope, this simple request has gone ignored for over 5 years now. It's the power of freetards.

no thanks, ill stick to OSX since it just works out of the box and doesnt need tons of testing and customization

>>61943389
this thread is for people with elevated consciousness.

>>61942137
>Shows over boys, pack your bags
I'm gonna need a brisk rundown. What did he mean by this?

>>61943387
>5 years
you mean 15 right?

>>61942137
Will it win if it keeps compressing my wallpapers to shit?
Xfce is better for most things.

for me? it's gah-nome

>>61942601
>>61942748
openSUSE's Firefox uses KDE file picker

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>No thumbnail

>>61942668
>>61942601
>>61942508
>>61942507
>>61943387
>>61944663
>>61944880
How do they track feature requests/bugs?
The amount of anons who have said this on /g/ without actually causing a ruckus on their issue tracker is fucking stupid 2bh.

There are bigger problems with GNOME though, like the amount of memory it uses for giving me less than Unity. And how does Wayland fit into all this? Will every prog need to be rewritten for Wayland?

>>61942137
How the fuck do you get gnome to look like that? Every time I've ever used gnome it has the stupid shit with the activities bar

>>61944925
>There are bigger problems with GNOME though
I was forced to use chromium instead of firefox because it use Kdialog out of the box

>>61942137
Did they fix the horrendous amount of lag caused by opening the overview? KDE can do the same even when running on a potato.

>>61944942
This also
The default layout is dogshit, why does some aspie distro like Solus end up looking better. I'm guessing that dude used a theme and gnome tweak tool.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

>2004
LOL

We should start to upboat that issue instead of complaining here though.

>>61942137
This looks amazing!

>>61943409
You mean from snorting paste to snorting cut?

>>61942137
GNOME Shell will never be usable unless they completely rewrite it from scratch.
The performance issues are too deeply rooted to receive a proper fix otherwise.

>>61944925
There have been a lot of reports over the years, but the GNOME devs simply don't care because they just can't pull their heads out of their asses.

Here is the original report from 2004 that still receives somewhat active discussion even in 2017.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154
Someone even made a patch for it, but for whatever reason it was never integrated in the mainline GTK/GNOME builds.

>>61945117
Yeah, I'm thinking KDE is probably a better way to go at this point
>>61945089


Btw you guys should know that these threads are going to be happening way more than before thanks to Unity not being supported on the next LTS. People are confused about what to choose out of KDE and guhnome. I didn't like KDE when I tried it recently but it might be the best thing we have. I know we can just use 16.04 for another 5 years anyway. By that point we will probably have Ubuntu LTS with Budgie or Lxqt.

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1. nigger, fuck your shit.
2. fuck your shit.
3. KDE is the best.
4. I got notifications out the wazoo.
5. KYS

>>61942507
yes, actually for quite some time now.

Vanilla Gnome is fucking trash. Unity was what Gnome 3 should have been.
>global menu
>window decorations merge into the top panel
>a dock on the side
It was really nice to use on laptops and smaller screens.

I'm hoping Ubuntu will at least port the global menu but that won't happen.
>muh client side decorations and giant padding
>simple and clean menu bars are for legacy applications ;)

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>>61945309
Yeah, who needs more thumbnails than this?
Having grid of them would be bloat ;^)

>>61942137
>Electron is also being ported
into the trash it goes

>>61945321
/thread

Isn't there a global menu extension now?

How hard could it be to add thumbnail preview?

>>61942137
KDE is still a million times better

>>61944948
But there are patched versions of firefox available for pretty much all distros anon.

>>61945477
It's not about it being hard, they simply choose not to.

>>61942374
fpbp

Is that non-riced? I'll admit it looks pretty good compared to other DEs out of the box, but I'll stick with i3.

>>61945540
No, you mean KDE has a million things of clutter.

>>61942137
That's a huge fuckin cursor

>>61942374
I will drink to that sir!

>>61942137
>Gnome 3.26
It will be absolute garbage, just like all the previous versions of GNOME.

This is a desktop from developers who refuse features and refuse to add features if they are deemed to be "too complicated" for someone who's barely able to open a door on their own.

It's also a desktop from people who are confused and think a desktop computer is a tablet or a mobile phone and they are designing the UI accordingly.

>>61942137
>ported to GTK3+
This isn't a good thing, not by a long-shot. Try this simple experiment yourself: press ctrl-o in any program that works with files to get the file-picker. Now type in the first few letters of the file you'd like to open. In GTK2+ based applications you get the file you want selected and now you can press Enter pick and open it. The same is true for KDE and every single sane file-picker out there. This will open a "global search" dialog in GTK3+. This is yet another bug they refuse to fix, the maintainers actually seem proud that it's broken.

>>61942668
It'll never get improved, they will make it even worse (if that's even possible).

>>61946039
*optional* clutter you don't have to enable.
KDE is all about choice.

>>61944942
That looks like shit. Why would you want that?

>>61944925
>How do they track feature requests/bugs?

The very sad thing is that it doesn't really matter when it comes to GNOME. There's a whole lot of bugs that aren't fixed and never will be because of "politics". You can accurately describe a bug, you can have a ton of people agreeing with you in the comments and you can submit working patchs that fixes the issue - and you will get some GNOME maintainer just closing it with WONTFIX because he's worked hard to make sure it's broken and wants to keep it that way.

>>61945117
>Someone even made a patch for it, but for whatever reason it was never integrated
And this is why GNOME is a piece of garbage. This is not the only example of bugs being open for years or just closed when there's working patches submitted.

>>61945025
>>2004
Yes. GNOME's had problematic developers in charge for a very long time. This is why many have just given up on it, there is no point in trying to contribute because your work will be rejected anyway and there's no point in using it either because it will never improve, it will only get worse.

>>61946219
Why the fuck is Shuttleworth letting this switch happen then? You realise all the prospective gnome switchers are Ubuntu fags like me who want to know if this is the end of our relationship with Ubuntu or if this is time to move to either K/Lubuntu, (xfeces is xfeces) or possibly something like Debian or Fedora + Neon. I'm open to anything as long as I can do my web shit, my programming shit, my vidya shit and my anniemaes shit and the OS doesn't get in my way. That's how Unity was, a beautiful fucking desktop that didn't get in my way. I'm probably going to be on 16.04 for a long time to come. There's no real reason for me to switch to Wayland from X.

m8 is where its at

>>61946256
Shuttleworth wants to get rid of the destop since its not making him any shekels anyway

deepin linux is the new way
it's simply beautiful and fast
debian based so normies will have their apt-get as well
>inb4 chinese botnet spyware
couldn't care less when the ISP, NSA, FBI, CIA, russioans and everyone is spying on me already

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MATE FOREVER

>>61944925
On the 1st of November every anon open a new bug for it on their Bugzilla.

This sort of thing is why Linux has never competed in the desktop. For every user there's always some tiny, stupid thing that shows that the system is unsuitable. And all the developers are off doing "more important things" like a new window system that does nothing for the user.

H-Hows lxde?

>>61946256
>Fedora + Neon
Wut. How does that work then?

>>61942137
Is that what GNOME 3 looks like nowadays?

>>61946416
>couldn't care less when the ISP, NSA, FBI, CIA, russioans and everyone is spying on me already
Yeah let's just give up, that's the spirit.

>>61946147
>It's also a desktop from people who are confused and think a desktop computer is a tablet or a mobile phone and they are designing the UI accordingly.
Fingers crossed they rip off the win8.1 start menu then.

>>61942137
And is for the best anon, GNOME is the best DE Linux has.

>>61946841
l8 b8

P A D D I N G
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>>61942137
Can you resize snapped windows yet?

i3 wm will win this war when someone try it he istantly love it !

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>>61942507
god damn it, this makes me rage everytime

>>61946588
lxshitty

>>61942137
2017 year of the linux desktop? xD

>>61942137
Before this goes any further to the point of homosexuality, aka full gnome

Is Xfeces better than KDE, because the only reason i know why it's better is it's lightweightness

KDE or XFCE with ubuntu???

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KDE would be good if it had good looks by default.

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Think about it, /g/
Instead of the monolithic design approach, we exploit modularity, where our strength lies. So here is my proposal:

1. Like file manager, there should be a seperate MIME type or xdg standard for "directory/file selector.
2. The file selector should be an application-independent process, can be spawned by multiple apps.
3. Users are able to install their prefered file selectors. If the file selector type is not defined, applications will simply open the legacy file chooser.
4. There will be a standard protocol like JSON, that will dictate how applications and file selectors will communicate.

We can do this, pretty easily. However the hardest part is:
1. Get the people of freedesktop to agree to make a new xdg-standard [critical]
2. Have the existing application devs informed of the new standard MIME type.

What do you think? I think file explorer and file selectors should not have much of a difference.

Cinnamon does not have this problem.

>>61948234
How to get good looks?

>>61948234
Why would you post such an outdated screenshot?
KDE is the only DE that does look good out of the box. With all others you either get no themes, win 95 looking themes or fucking Adwaita.

>>61948234
Honestly, I'd use KDE if I knew how to get rid of the HUGE FUCKING CLOCK. I once got it looking pretty nice on a KDE Neon live cd only to not know how to get rid of the obviously too big clock.

>>61942137
inshallah

>>61948366
Get the event calendar widget and replace the default clock with that. Has font size option along with a whole bunch of other ones.

>>61948234
That is no where near what it looks like by default.

Why the fuck do Gnome and GTK still exist? Why can't they just fucking die? They're the biggest problem with Linux at the moment. Why can't everyone just use Plasma and Qt?

>>61948441
I actually like the idea of a completely Linux focused grapical toolkit. Howeever it being completely focused on one DE and its fucktarded developers is what makes it shit.

>>61948234
Good thing KDE doesn't even look like that.

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>>61948342
>>61948435
>Why would you post such an outdated screenshot?
Because it's the one I had with the complaints placed on it. It got better, but it's still not good enough. Dolphin still looks like a mess, for example. Say what you will about gnome, but although it has shitty default configurations, its looks are consistent and better than KDE's when it comes to their default programs.

I'd like to defend gnome more, but just its huge window header is just a big no.

>>61948441
GTK is actually faster than Qt

>>61948489
Again, outdated.
I would like to see some actual, up to date, criticisms though. "Mess" is pretty vague.

>>61948514
Give me a recent screenshot, then. One that doesn't have those problems. Everything I get from google is either old or cropped apparently.

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Why the fuck do people love the global menu meme so much?
I fucking hate it and removed the osx partition from my macbook air because of it

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>>61948489
How is this a mess?

>>61942137
Nice wasted space.
Plasma is better.

>>61948391
Thanks anon. Hopefully I can find Qt apps to replace the GTK apps I use. The hardest to find might be an Audacity replacement.

>>61948342
>KDE is the only DE that does look good out of the box
As much as I dislike its purposeful lack of features and its devs, that goes towards Pantheon.

>>61948441
Because not everyone is going to like and more importantly, want to work on the same thing for free. There's also no real authority in the Linux world, aside from the big corporations and the most popular ones choose GNOME and contribute to its development. Everyone's idea of the perfect GUI for their computer is quite divisive, and that's why you have everyone branching off and doing their own thing. As pointless as it might seem to some, the DE is the "biggest", most important program on most people's computers.

Even if that weren't the case, the option is still nice. I prefer GNOME, but I also quite like KDE. I'm just more accustomed to the former.

>>61948548
They probably never experienced the menus integrated into the titlebar Unity has. That shit is true perfection.

>>61948489
I'm with you on consistency, but >>61948551 is basically Nautilus but with the header buttons on the left and the split feature. It's a file explorer, they all look the same.

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>>61948548
Unity has its global menu on the top bar but when a window is maximized, its titlebar and window buttons fuses into the topbar. It gives you a really nice immersive experience since the program is basically fullscreen.

>>61948489
disgusting
kde shills should be banned from this board

>>61948675
Global menu is the only right thing Unity developers did with it.
Also props to Ubuntu devs for that A+ font rendering out of the box.

>eye of gnome supports color management
>gwenview and all the other qt image viewers don't
Things like this happen with other kde applications as well. They look good and easy to use but they often lack basic features.

>>61942137
Gnome is sjw cancer

>>61944576
Hm, 2004, so yes, closer to 15 years.

>>61948739
Well they're called image viewers, not image editors.

>>61948548
>>61948603
Agreed: the integrated titlebar menus on Unity are the best way to go. Absolutely fucking amazing. Honestly, that and the Unity HUD (search through application menus via the keyboard) are killer features of Unity.

I think KDE Plasma has or is getting both of them though. I remember reading something about it.

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>>61948551

>>61948762
>image viewer
>display colors incorrectly
trash

>>61948569
The problem though isn't just Gnome in isolation, but everyone else using GTK for their programs, when it's utter shit and is being designed specifically for Gnome. GTK is just the Gnome Toolkit now, but people are still using it for programs that aren't even Gnome specific. When those application developers inevitably run into problems because GTK is unstable and changed just for Gnome, they ask on the issue tracker for GTK and just get told "You need to decide whether you're a Gnome app or not".

>>61948795
Holy Christ, is that the best you can do? What a fucking moron.

>>61948817
>display colors incorrectly
>citation needed

>>61945321
except there's already a extension implementing global menu on gnome3
https://github.com/lestcape/Gnome-Global-AppMenu

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>>61948795
Holy fuck, you don't know how to use a file manager and get angry about that. Amazing.

>>61948885
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>61948952
>I've been caught out talking shite so I'll throw a wobbly

>>61948967
You don't know what color management means. Stop replying to me, you're making yourself look like a retard.

>>61947479
yes, it acts like w10, in if you have snapped windows one next to another, resizing one will also resize the other

>>61948949
Not the same thing.

>>61949014
yet, you seriously think ubuntu wont try to port their workflow to gnome? boot up from one of their daily images, they even have the windows controls on the left already

>>61948995
>still no citation

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>>61949046
looks bad

>>61948795
>??????
Stop being retarded.
>is this for images only?
No, it's for any media that has thumbnail support.
>why does it need to be here?
Dolphin supports different settings per folder. It's there for it to be easily toggleable between folders I would assume. I could also see it being useful to quickly switch of thumbnails to distinguish different file formats that are all thumbnailed.
>Is this neccessary
Very much so. One of the best features Dolphin has.
>Why is this in the middle of the window?
The toolbar buttons are aligned to the left.
>wasted space
Make the window smaller and it's not wasted :^)
>alignment
Yeah man, those two pixels offset sure impact my workflow.
>Why not just have one recently saved?
Just delete the other three.
>Don't you have a find button?
Yes. You can remove these from the sidebar too if you so desire.
I personally prefer the filter function to the find function though.
>Is this blue outline needed?
It's part of the theme, so no it's not needed. I think it looks nice.
>Did you select the videos folder?
Yes, but it's unselected. The blue line indicates the last selected item. This should also answer the question about the selected "Home" folder
>bottom row stuff
Why hide something that takes away so little space while being pretty useful?
And I don't see how placing it in the sidebar would improve anything.

Give me any other file manager and I can nitpick it just like that too.

>>61942137
Is the thumbnail problem fixed with GTK3?

>>61949082
Here comes the autistic argument about the teal, lack of some gay unusable window manager and hentai desktop background.

>>61949029
What citation? Try the programs and see it for yourself. You sound like a shill.

>>61949136
>display colors incorrectly

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>>61949136
>yfw you can't actually back up your claims

I'd be so embarrassed.

>>61942374
you have my dragndildo.

Why do you guys care, it's not like anyone here sticks to provided defaults.

I'll never use gnome again, even if you paid me. Fuck gnome, and fuck the gnome developers and their "we know best, no customization allowed, do it our way" bullshit attitude.

>>61949130
pls don't project onto me

>>61949151
>>61949161
Take a screenshot with mpv, open it with gwenview(or any other qt image viewer). Unless you use a shitty tn screen and don't use a color profile, you will see the difference. But of course you won't, being right or wrong doesn't matter to shills.

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>>61949206
>biggest feature of GNOME is the extensions
>we know best, no customization allowed, do it our way

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>>61948951
>>61949097
Every default interface should be made with new users in mind, not with experienced ones. To a new user, the icon/list/tree view buttons don't tell much about what they do, for example. They're useful features, sure, but most of those aren't features your Average Joe needs. To them, they might as well be clutter, and they can just enable them as needed.

>>61949251
>hamburger menu
McFucking kill yourself.

>>61946588
Shit, Xfce is better and more functional while being equally light.
It's also abandoned.

>>61949263
it's also in the original you fucking moron

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>>61949240

>>61949313
Yes, for additional stuff, most of which can be put into the toolbar.
Hamburger menus for everything are only needed if horizontal space is limited making toolbars not viable, like on smartphones. Deleting the toolbar altogether in a desktop application where horizontal space is abundant is moronic.

>>61949251
> To a new user, the icon/list/tree view buttons don't tell much about what they do
Just press the button and you can clearly see what they do, and I think most users of any level would find it useful. You really are clutching at straws at this point.

>>61949243
Tell me, how do you change the fonts in gnome? How do you change themes? Do you still have to install some special settings tool or extensions just to do simple things like that?

>>61942137
>gnome vanilla will finally be usable.

That shit doesn't even a basic panel/program list bar, what are you talking about gnome shill? fuck off.

>>61949251
If Average Joe is so retarded he can't understand the most basic functions, he can just continue using windows 10 or buy a new macbook in special financing plan.

>>61942137
>desktop
more like 'android' clone

>>61949455
Finder has icons for different views in the toolbar too. Guess Average Joe will have to stay on Windows.

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>>61949251
Are you a Gnome dev? You don't need to be a genius to figure out how the view modes work. Not everything has to be made for literal retards.

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DAILY REMINDER THAT KDE SHILLS MUST BE KILLED!

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>2017
>not using Trinity as a DE

>>61949251
If they were able to download the installer and actually install the OS, there is no reason to make the UI for retards.

>>61948194
>Is Xfeces better than KDE, because the only reason i know why it's better is it's lightweightness
I haven't used either DE very much as I find myself preferring Cinnamon for various reasons, but I would say the out of the box experience on xubuntu is definitely better than on kubuntu. Make of that what you will.

Satsuki is better than Ryuko, OP

>>61949243
Extensions are the biggest feature of Gnome because it's pretty much Gnome's ONLY feature. Gnome is barebones shit that does almost nothing. It relies on shitty third-party JavaScript extensions to finish it.

Year of the Cinnamon desktop when?

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>>61949410
>tell me, can you change the font and themes in GNOME?
>oh that's right, you can! Yeah, fucking told you GNOME was a locked down piece of shit

>>61949023
They're moving them back to the right. Ubuntu is going the route of least resistance, and that's actually kind of disappointing.

>>61949046
>>61949130
it's hideous though. default xubuntu icon set and everything is fucking huge. it's like an ugly baby toy.

>>61942137
>>61944925
What I really hate about gnome is that you need a minimum 1080p monitor for it to be usable. Because of Gnome's unnecessarily huge title bars, the windows take up so much screen space. Why hasn't anyone created a extension yet that allows someone to easily change the height of the title bars?

And if you want to use the hidpi feature, you need a minimum 4K monitor for it to be usable.

>>61948234
It doesn't make sense why font rendering on Plasma looks worse than the font rendering on GTK3 based DEs.

>>61949914
The height of the title bars change according to the theme

>>61949914
>It doesn't make sense why font rendering on Plasma looks worse than the font rendering on GTK3 based DEs.
noto sans is just an ugly font

>>61942137
well of course gnome is winning. even crapnonical is bowing to gnome, as they're scrapping unity and soon gnome will be the default DE for ubuntu.

Is the last KDE Plasma better looking that the one in Kubuntu 16? Which is objectively best DE? I am a newfag. Please no memes.

>>61949801
Let's see your riced out trash.

>>61949939
Yes, and?

>>61942137

Wasn't GNOME turned into one of those "WE LUV DIVERSITY, GIRLS, TRANNIES & POCs CAN CODE LOL, WHITE MALES OUT REEEE" bluehaired landwhale projects?

>>61950029
>he wants to resort to ad hominems

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>>61942374

XFCE + i3wm here

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>>61950078
>He won't post a screenshot because he knows he spent too much time customizing it

>>61950115
well you asked for it :^)

>>61948795
Some of the criticism is retarded.
But generally it's just more proof freetards can't into design.

>>61950133
I love Twilight Sparkle!

>>61942137
>tfw unity died for this shit
I miss my global menus and well usage of screen state.

if we ree hard enough will unity come back as the default

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>>61950146
You really know how to trigger a Stockingfag

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>>61950187
Sauce the pape
>>61950179
Even Gnome is better than Unity you stupid asshole

>>61950203
ios on an ipad is more productive than gnome trash

>>61950133
>Gentoo
>KDE
>porn as wallpaper
>not using condoms with a slut
>waifufag
Disgusting.

>>61950215
>ios on an ipad is more productive than gnome trash
There's contrarian and then there's being an absolute retard.

>>61950234
>and then there's being an absolute retard.
As a gnome user, you should know all about that huh.

>>61950203
>Sauce the pape
file:///home/kuronix/AWIC/Wallpapers/stocking_lewd3322.png

>>61950234
>resorting to ad hominems
heh

>>61950321
lel

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>>61942137
Your GNOME is bad and you should feel bad. The wallpaper gets compressed to shit.

Gtk a shit, its all about that lxqt and kde

>>61950520
>The wallpaper gets compressed to shit.
Gotta make performance improvements somewhere if your shell is written in JavaScript.

>>61950520
it's from google, not my system.

>>61950203
That's really not true. Unity is better than Gnome.

>>61942949
Electron IS Chromium.

>>61943376
Qt5 on Wayland is a dumpster fire right now. Forced scaling, bad integration, buggy clipboard, no QtWebEngine port.

>>61950768
Wayland itself is a dumpster fire right now.

>>61950693
There's still literally no reason as to why this happens.
>>61950725
What hurts me most is that you and many others here think that looks good.

>>61950793
I don't like dark themes, but other than that it looks fine

>>61950817
>Android icon for start menu
>Gradient panel
>trash "minimal" wallpaper
>green is ""dark""
>bottom panel over 20 pixels
>inconsistent colors
I want nu-/g/ to leave.

>>61951266
>Android icon for start menu
sure
>Gradient panel
not gradient retard, just reduced opacity
>trash "minimal" wallpaper
sure
>green is ""dark""
>#4F616B as the main color
>not a dark theme
it's blue btw, check your eyes
>bottom panel over 20 pixels
No problem here
>inconsistent colors
The only inconsistency in colors is between the icons

Conclusion, you're a faggot, go back to your tiled wm

>>61949567
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:08:49 No.61942507▶>>61943387 >>61944925 >>61945309 >>61947547
>>>61942137 (OP)
>But does it have thumbnails in the file picker?
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:09:01 No.61942508▶>>61944925
>>>61942137 (OP)
>GNOME should freeze its development until they fix their gtk file chooser
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:09:44 No.61942520▶>>61942817
>>>61942137 (OP)
>>Electron is also being ported
>Which probably means chromium is going to be gtk3 as well, right?
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:11:59 No.61942542▶
>Call me when I don't have to install addons to control basic shit such as hiding bars.
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:16:02 No.61942597▶>>61942614
>It'll be good once based canonical slaps it into shape like they did with gnome2.
>>>
> Anonymous 08/17/17(Thu)05:16:19 No.61942601▶>>61942748 >>61944663 >>61944925
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I agree with you, fix your fucking shitty os faggots.

>>61948997
Is 3.26 in the Ubuntu 17.10 nightlies?

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>>61949251
Here, I improved it

>>61951651
I don't think you need both the mosaic view(?) and the list view, as they're mutually exclusive, a button would suffice

>>61942137
Ohh boy. First of all, your desktop is ugly as fuck. At least use a proper theme and not one of these super-confusing "material" themes using only a variant of one color. Secondly, you're using dash-to-panel. Why even use GNOME? GNOME developers will fuck up extensions eventually and extension developers will get fed up with devteam's shit. Thirdly, GNOME is not winning anything. The only reason it's alive is that literally every distro out there is cucked by Redhat and using it as default. If KDE had half the backing GNOME had we'd already seen year of the Loonix desktup.

Obligatory kys.

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>>61942374

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>>61951651
ftfy

tfw the only 2 passable linux DE are KDE and XFCE

>>61951705

Like KDE3 dominated, am I right?

Nope, it was running on 30% of desktops at best.

>>61951792
Do we really need a search function? People will probably be scared of it.

If Wayland comes to Xfce, I'll be a happy camper.

Also, wtf, GTK4? I thought we were still ironing out the bugs of GTK3. What's different in GTK4?

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>>61949097
Not him but Thunar is awesome.

>>61942137
Gnome 3 is a turd

>>61951832
Xfce for life. Light, super customizeable and responsive.

Wish it was Wayland compliant, though.

>>61951994
nemo is the best

>>61942374
xfce on open suse here

>>61951994
Probably my favorite file manager, though I think it needs better scaling/size options for thumbnails. My only complaint.

>>61942508
Gnome Team doesn't care about bug reports from outside their own team

>>61942508
I plan to annoy them with the file picker thing. Get on IRC and file a ton of bug reports on their site.

>>61942137
gnome 3 needs extensions and addons to work.

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Gnome developers are retard, the can't replicate what KDE do.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

>>61948739
IIRC that's a Qt-related issue, but I haven't dug too deep into it yet

>>61942137
>GNOME will win the desktop war
Windows won that war long ago.

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>>61948551
I prefer this layout

>>61952427
haha, silly anon, Windows isn't a desktop

>>61951705
Why didn't Shittleworth go with KDE? He basically won the war for red hat, he could have been edgy as usual and gone with KDE

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A good read on why Gnome, GTK, and their whole ecosystem is shit: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/

Not that this was written in 2012. It's only gone downhill from there.

>>61952451
That looks fucking horrendous.

>>61952749
I'm glad that you've liked it

>>61952567
He has become a huge pussy. Ubuntu server is all that matters and desktop will see no effort. Solus will slowly become the new go-to desktop for newbies.

inb4 hi kevin

>>61953022
No you're right, this is what I've been saying myself. Budgie is where the progress is happening.
I might actually try and set up a NixOS with Budgie, shouldn't be too hard.

>>61953069
Why don't you just use Solus with Nix?

>>61953098
Dunno, should I? I keep meaning to set NixOS up, haven't had a chance, thought it would make sense to give a new de a try at the same time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4

>>61942137
Anyone recommend GTK themes? I want
>dominated by dark grey - green
>no childish shit
>decently modern

>>61953231
Vertex. I wish Plasma had this theme.
https://github.com/horst3180/Vertex-theme

>>61952567
Because GNOME is the easier migration. Anyone who's seriously going to be "affected" by the switch to GNOME will most likely be a casual user that sticks to LTS releases only. In that case, they no doubt mostly use the apps that come with Unity and the majority of those apps are GTK3/GNOME's stock apps.

If you move over to KDE you have to migrate users from Nautilus to Dolphin, Rhythmbox to Amarok, etc. When the new LTS release comes out, people expect to upgrade without issue. Of course, Budgie is also a viable alternative but GNOME has just been around for much longer and is more well known.

>>61942137
is there a way to make it look less osx?

>>61952567
Wasn't there drama with the KDE devs? Kubuntu is basically dead.

>>61953259
looks amazing but doesn't work with my GTK3 version... only up too

>>61952567
Because Ubuntu goes with whatever other distros maintain. Ubuntu has no serious developers on the team to maintain something like KDE.

>>61953412
*only up to 3.2

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>>61942137
>linuxfags will never have a proper file manager and file picker

>>61953231
Some of the United variants have green as the primary color.

>>61953507
>all that wasted space in the window title bar
>path isn't clickable
0/10 you sure showed me

>>61952708
status icons are cancer and have been rightfully abolished

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>>61954251
>he fell for the "wasted space" meme
lmao
also ur dumb

>>61954434
there's no reason why that window title couldn't be shorter by a third

>>61942137
>Gnome 3.26
Wow, the panel is at the bottom... did they finally stop pretending the desktop is a tablet?

>>61954539
I suppose it took 3-4 add-ons to look like that

The lifecycle of a productive, happy Linux user:
Phase 1) distro hopper
Phase 2) Ubuntu
Phase 3) Mac

>>61954624
>1. slackware
>2. gentoo
>3. develop more enjoyable hobbies

>>61948822
I used to use totem in Xfce, but since about 2013 or so it's total shit. They removed the Playlist sidebar from a video player.

>>61942542
<BLOAT>

>>61942137
>Electron is also being ported
what?

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Budgie will switch to QT

>>61952708
Reading all that reminded me how awful gnome was in 2012 when I abandoned it.

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>>61951615

>>61954624
>1) distro hopping because windows memes
>2) let's just go back to basics, ubuntu
>3) ok well fuck that shit, cant afford a true mac so hackintosh it is
>4) what the fuck why is the screen black fml
>5) back to windows 7

>>61953231
minwaita

>>61955526
>hackintosh it is
>what the fuck why is the screen black fml
lol
just get a real mac man

>>61955544
The comment is actually a culmination of posts I've seen on /g/ over the years, not my personal experience as I wouldn't waste time with a desktop linux distro.

>>61955582
ah heh

>>61942137
Nvidia doesn't support Xwayland

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I can't sleep

>>61955679
Get off the computer and go to bed, anon.

>>61955679
God I hate those shitty headerbars on Gnome apps.

>>61942137
List the improvements in your posts next time, OP
>>61943409
>>61943389
Shut up, macOS is fine. It's a good environment and has good software support. The UI leaves something to be desired, but the topbar is really nice.
In terms of power-users and non-normies, Linux is for tinkerers and Mac is for people who just want their computing experience to be a little easier.
Just be glad no one is using Winshaft
>>61948234
KDE has a global menu extension and it works quite well.
>>61946154
Correct. KDE has a lot of choices you can make to construct a very functional environment.
>>61949571
>>61949561
Cinnamon is okay. It was my first major de. It just didn't prove as useful to me at a certain point.
>>61950073
>>>/pol/
Stop polluting the board, don't bring this shit up here unless it's warranted
>>61950321
Nice sauce bro
>>61951994
this
>>61953231
Modified arc-dark
I used to have one lying around that had a good mix of darker-gray colors and a very minimal green accent
>>61955679
>>61955998
Cluttering the ui with oversized hamburger menus and icons is such a poor decision

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>>61942137
since when does gnome have a taskbar
what is this shit

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why bother with gnome when there's budgie? it's is basically gnome except you don't have to install a dozen extensions to make it usable.

>>61955756
Thanks Anon, will try.
>>61955998
Why? It is the optimal use of space.

>>61956218
and you also can't install a dozen extensions even if you wanted to

>>61956259
why would you want to? solus fixes pretty much everything you'd want extensions for in gnome

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>>61956239
Actually Unity's way has the most optimal use of space.

> Thin titlebar, there to let you see the title of the program, drag it around, close it, etc.
> Mousing-over the titlebar or pressing Alt reveals the application menu in the same space where the title was.
> Maximise the program and it connects into the general top panel, wasting no space.
> Menus can be searched through by keyboard via the HUD (e.g. type "blu" for a gaussian blur).

Headerbars are shit, they waste space, have bad keyboard support, and poor usability. They're only good for touch input.

>>61942137
Enjoy your systemd dependency.

>>61956317
Unity's way is great, but I think Plasma's getting this sometime too

>>61943409
This is a thread about DE not OS dumbfuck

>>61948492
Source or benchmark

>>61948795
Instead of projecting with autistic comments, take your notes to a devel mailing list.
>oh wait you are way too autistic to actually contribute to a project and improve it

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>>61955679
>Applications
>Places
why
why

>>61956548
TWO CLOCKS

>>61956548
applications is not the same as what's in the dock
places is for, obviously, open a bookmarked folder without the need of having the file manager opened, most DEs have this, including explorer and aqua

>>61942668
how do you lean left wing?

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>>61942137
>using anything other than mwm

>>61942137

>2017
>No thumbnail preview.

What war?

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>>61953507
I have a file picker with thumbnails.

>>61956636
With nautilus cant you just right click the icon on your dock and get the same behavior as the places button or no?

>>61956548
>What are shortcuts

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I like Gnome, but I like KDE too.

>>61942137
>He doesn't use xfce

>>61948675
you can still have that with title bar menus

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>>61957522
I honestly had such an hard time customizing kde, the themes are a pain in the ass to deal with, and there's not as much variety.

On my favorite setups ever was on a KDE with be::shell,
yeah it's a aqua rip-off but if you removed the launcher on the top panel and added unity like titlebar-to-panel integration, it would be hnng

>>61957522
> I like shit, but I like perfection too.

>>61957522
is it ok having those two on the same system or does it just depend on the distro?

>>61957851
I would avoid having both installed at the same time, you get some strange behavior.
>>61957794
What applet gives the status pane, and can I make it look like it isn't from a mac?

>>61957944
It's just a image I found on while googling a few years ago.
Here's the source, https://github.com/Hombremaledicto/be.shell, it's deprecated, I think

>>61948795
nitpicking/10

>>61953507
>linux is gnome right guise?
mactoddler pls, grown ups are talking.

>linuxfags never get anything done because their DE is so poorly designed with shit all over the place
it's all starting to make sense

>>61951994
>no f3 split
>doesn't remember icon view in each folder
There's nothing special about Thunar, it's just a lighter and shittier version of Nautilus.

>>61951994
Thunar is fucking terrible. It doesn't even remember views and/or sorting per folder! Pcmanfm is the best.

>>61942137
o shit thats aesthetic

>>61942137
>Electron is also being ported
explain yourself

>>61957138
So? it's still behind a OS that is dogshit on a desktop.
>>61958339
>implying things I didn't mention
yeah big boy you're are so mature :^)

>>61958466
Why is it behind?

>>61958466
>implying things I didn't mention
Except you directly implied exactly that. You are simply too ignorant to see it. Typical mactoddler.

>>61942137
MATE is still the most polished

>>61958530
kek, good one.

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>>61958466
>implying GNU/Linux, the system with the largest number and biggest choice for user interaction via DE/WM choices, is "dogshit on a desktop"

also >pcmanfm works with any DE/WM and doesn't need a shit ton of deps, has thumbnails and preview
macfag pls go

>>61958466
>So? it's still behind a OS that is dogshit on a desktop.
OS that is shit at one thing > OS that is shit at everything

>>61958568
That's cool babe but that's nothing, hear this:
Can any file manager for Linux rename multiple files at once while ALSO changing the file extension AND apply rules to renaming the file all within like I mentioned a GUI? not a bash command, directly from the file manager itself.
Can you edit pictures while you preview them and send them trough email right away? I don't think so.
>>61958602
I couldn't agree more, definitely macOS > Linux.

No one in this thread has an up to date, as in taken within the past 3 days, screenshot of default KDE?

>>61949543
Trinity is pretty amazing.

>>61959216
It's because no one uses KDE.

>>61951994
What icon set is that?

>>61959439
More like no one in their right mind uses linux with a DE on a computer for personal use.

>>61959521
Yes, they all use tiling WM with a loli wallpaper instead.

>>61959216
It's because no one uses default KDE.

>>61959456
looks like Moka

>>61958530
It looks like 2002.

>>61958713
Thunar has that feature. Select multiple files, then select rename. It's actually one of the features I miss in other file managers, despite Thunar being buggy otherwise.

>>61942137
>gtk
>themes break literally every two versions or so
it's shit