need a new browser?

>>61921467
Stop listening to what people say and stop following every single thing you hear online. Think for yourself, look into the subject, research, then decide for yourself.

>>61921467
>w3m not got tier
Literally worse than reddit

>>61921539
>>61922038
This is /g/ just tell me what browser to use.

Some people say it's worth avoiding Google. Others say that Firefox is garbage too.

I make them all happy by using IE11. Not even joking.

>>61921467
Why are you suffering this much? just use IceCat, is clean has fuck, compatible with addons, the only problem is how bad handles ram but again, is more mozilla problem, future version are going to be the shit

>>61921467
>Icecat not in placebo tier when it is just Firefox stable with a different logo

>>61922441
This.

>>61922441
it's not.
IceCat is Firefox stable with sane configs for privacy and some nice addons like 'https everywhere'. Autism Tier with LibreJS is optional.

>>61921467
wait seamonkey is ccompromised aswell? fuck

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Brave is now thw official log of shit browser

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>>61922149
If you like to suck a warm nasty log of shit out of andy sixxs asshole please try brave. Its very fast and stable and not sjw

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>>61921467
I heard brave is the true redlog of shit. Please redlog me

>>61922932
Log of hair?

>Other alternatives
This word combination is erroneous, please, consider altering the image to simply "alternatives", thank you.

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Who does /brave/ here?
It renders my andy sixx memes perfectly

>>61921467
Firefox nightly is godlike.
Brave is shit on desktop.

>>61921467
The Soros thing isn't fucking real, do your research

>>61922712
HTTPS Everywhere is supposed to be bad for performance, Smart HTTPS (revived) is shilled as a better alternative.

>>61921467
Chromium is a virus that was infecting my computer until I finally found a way to delete it and everything else it shit in.

>>61923603
What about mobile?

>>61922185
I know DAT feel. For some reason YouTube videos take much mode screen space on IE which makes much more useable. Alas, the rest of the browser is still garbage...

>>61923822
Brave is really good on Android from my experience. I personally still use Firefox since it supports WEBM, has better UI and has sync, but otherwise Brave completely shits on it performance wise.

Just don't browse the internet.

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>>61921467
>nightly is placebo
>all those "excellent" browsers

>>61921539
>Think for yourself, look into the subject, research, then decide for yourself.
and you'll end up coding your own browser.

>>61923822
It's the best performing android browser according to a benchmark done on an S5 (other than the Samsung's Internet Browser).

>>61924065
>benchmark
What benchmark.

>>61921539
Okay, Firefox is launching a new initiative to fight "Fake News"- but doesn't describe what it considers 'fake news' or not.
So, what browser should I switch to?

>>61923631
http://www.businessinsider.com/mozilla-new-initiative-counter-fake-news-2017-8
do your research

>>61924411
Source on that about Firefox? You fell for actual fake news retard

>>61924411
pale moon. the furry autist will never let us down

>>61921467
>Is brave really worth using
no, use ungoogled chromium
>What about firefox?
not until 57, use palememe or waterfox

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>>61924611
https://phys.org/news/2017-08-mozilla-fact-checker-fake-news.html


You are fake news

>>61921467
>ungoogled chromium
>trusting a student project

>>61924028
Nightly is autism.

>>61924611
Wow, how retarded do you have to be to ask for a source right under a link that has the source.
I'm guessing you need your big brother to post for you

>>61924635
thank you based furry autist

do any of those autist browsers support greasemonkey/4chan x?

>>61925256
pale moon does

>>61923386
it's not wrong, it's just redundant

>>61921467
Brave is excellent, don't fall for the memes. NEETs are just upset that someone is trying to change the economic model that might result in them paying for content.

>>61921467
Is FF57 out yet and what were the about:config changes to attempt to make it more private?

>>61924727
Nightly is as good as FF ever gets. Stable FF lacks the latest features, optimizations and pushes Mozilla's political opinions down your throat.

>>61925425
>Brave is excellent, don't fall for the memes.
What features other than faux-adblocking does it have that FF and Chromium don't?

>>61921539
Oh my god some used logic and reason

Really need someone to tell me what they dislike about Brave. I took a glance at it a few weeks ago but decided to stick with ff nightly but I came back to it now and notice its incredibly smooth when dealing with sites with a lot of javascript stuff in it. Firefox feels so laggy in comparison. The only downside I can think of is the lack of customization and it feels soulless compared to firefox but damn everything else is flawless

>>61921467
mozilla does not run SeaMonkey

>>61921467
I would like to ask the author of this work to explain the difference between luakit and uzbl

>>61927041
There is nothing. Mozilla shills are just mad because there's a better browser than Firefox.

>>61922932
>>61922952
>>61923038
>>61923465
severe autism with the samefag

>>61921467
NetRunner masterrace soon!

>>61927781
Forget it, I disabled the e10 thing mozilla added and its not as laggy anymore I feel like it has some hickups whereas brave has none but I'll take the customization of firefox for now until brave introduces something interesting

>>61927041
only bad thing is no addons/extensions

>>61927041
No Webm embedding

>>61921467
Brave is a real botnet.

>>61923631
but it is real

>>61923822
>>61924000
>>61924411
>>61924499
>>61924611
>>61925322
nice integers of the repetitive quality anons

>>61922214
Or, you could be intelligent and use Waterfox.

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>>61924030
No you won't.

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>>61921467
>Mozilla partnered with George Soros
This is an outright lie. There is no evidence of this. Please provide some concrete evidence if you can. From the linked article:

>Mozilla, the non-profit which runs the Firefox internet browser, said Wednesday it was launching a drive against ‘fake news’ as fact-checking software backed by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar got its first run-out in public.

Use some critical thinking skills. It doesn't say that Firefox is using this software (it's called "Full Fact" btw), because at this time they aren't using *any* software. Their "Initiative" is currently no more than an announcement of their intent to investigate what is possible. That's what the official blog announcement also stated.

People see that "Full Fact" is launching, and that Firefox is looking into possible avenues they themselves can pursue, and /pol/ has turned this into "Firefox partners with Soros!" which, at this point in time, is a lie.

Maybe Mozilla *will* partner with Soros, but maybe they won't. The future is only speculation at this point, and to make such definitive statements is foolish.

Don't be a liar.

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>>61921467
> Chrome
Just werks. Safest and fastest of all. RAM wise it's got fixed, so if you are low on RAM, it will use less ram. But you can use "the great suspender" and it will help you cut down ram usage. It has all the addons one might need. The best.
> Chromium
Same shit with extra hassle.
> Vivaldi
Power user browser. The potential is huge but there is no sync yet, and the UI is written in Javascript. In fucking Javascript. So every time the thread is busy or something, the entire UI slows down. The engine is Blink, so imagine a giant excavator with a Porche engine when the main UI thread tries to do something.
> Brave
Meme. They took Chromium, slapped on a monstrosity UI and ruined addon compatibility. Literally a shit product.
> Opera
Was good. Even when they moved to Blink it was kinda promising. But then the chinks kept ruining it, and now every feature is just half-implemented, half-assed. Like Turbo... good luck finding and configuring it. It's just shit.
> Edge
Fast shit. But shit. Addons barely work.
> Firefox
Shit shit. Slow and shit. Slow updates, extensions all broken by now, slow browsing experience, and a RAM hog since they pushed e17s. Also the company's only aim is to push SJW agenda and diversity. That's Mozilla's main role. I am not even joking, check their site.

That's it I guess.

>>61929894
>Porche
*Porsche
I can even speak German to some degree but these stupid spellchecks I swear on me mum...

Don't you dare talk shit about Microsoft edge, it is fast as fuck

>>61929894
With all that said, what's the best option for someone who puts privacy and security above all

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>>61924250

>>61929910
Chromium I think.
It is addon compatible, it gets updates, it uses the same fast as fuark engine and the botnet shit has been disabled.
You can find many builds for every OS (Windows, BSD, Linux, OS X). Even portable builds.
So I would go with this.

You can install "ChromeIPass", and it can integrate into Keepass. I have my passes offline, yet my browser can autofill this way. Comfy as fuck.

> inb4 Firefox
I don't know. They advocate how open they are, but in fact they get like 99% of their budget from ad deals. And the browser calls back home by default and all that shit. It's just... no. I realize supporting the underdog might be good, but Mozilla strayed away from it's original good path they had back then. Maybe with Servo they will get their position back... we will see. But at the moment, it's dog shit.

>>61929924
>Chromium
>botnet
Thanks for the info anon but I think I'll stick with Pale Meme until FF settles down. It's surprisingly decent.

>>61929894
>> Chrome
>Safest and fastest of all. RAM wise it's got fixed
Are you retarded?

>shit 8x
Confirmed, you're retarded

>>61929910
Iridium
Firefox, just change a few things in about:config
Waterfox, if you're too lazy for firefox

>>61929894
t. retard

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>>61929965
Chromium has no botnet parts, that's Chrome.
This is why people use it instead of Chrome.

>>61929983
> Retarded
How so? I have 24GB of RAM, yet it is using just as much as Firefox 56 does.

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>>61929983
>>61930018
> inb4 that's a lot of ram

I have 4chan X + appchan with some fuckbloated setup.
Also using a fuckton of extensions.
AND it uses less RAM than Firefox. (It uses 1.6GB atm with ~10 tabs.)

>>61930018
Chromium phones to Google. The only thing that's different between it and chrome is that chromium uses exclusively open source parts. It's still a botnet. That's why Iridium and unGoogled Chromium extist.

>>61929924
>privacy and security
>Chromium
pick one

Chrome/ium can't event filter ads properly

>>61930032
> SRWare Iron
> Comodo Dragon
Also: https://chromium.woolyss.com/#privacy

>>61930034
Stop spreading FUD, Chris Aljoudi you shitskin fuck.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Does-uBlock-block-ads-or-just-hide-them%3F

Firefox being partnered to Soros is itself fake news, probably made by Brave developers. Mozilla employees themselves have explicitly denied being associated with Soros.

>>61930027
>1.6GB
I think Windows is the problem. I have Ubuntu, Firefox 55 with two addons and 14 active tabs - memory usage 244.2 MiB

>>61921467
https://blog.mozilla.org/internetcitizen/2017/07/31/a-more-inclusive-world-and-web/
I really don't want to use a browser that is made by weak whiny cunts but nothing else has the same customizability.

>>61930071
Probably. Do you have e17s enabled though?
Before e17s Firefox was indeed the ram champ. But it just feels wrong to disable it, like one step forward, two backward...

>>61921467
srware iron is compormised, also op remove iridium from that list its german bot net.

>>61930050
https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO-Extra-is-useful

Instart Logic and Upmanager problems exists only in Chrome/ium based browsers, not in Firefox

>>61930097
> problem
Like, you have uBlock Origin + uBlock Extra installed anyhow, then how is it a problem?
(shoot me though, I used Chrome for bfilter years ago when there was no native adblock. I am a sinner. Oh and I used Adblock Plus on Firefox.)

>>61930050
Iron and comodo dragon are shitware. Are you 12? Because nobody sane would recommend that garbage.
>take chromium
>close source for no reason
Yeah, no. Both are spyware/botnets.

>>61930112
> Recommend
I recommended Chromium, I only brought up examples and also included a link that explains every step a tinfoil-hat-person would need to take. Those are just examples of how there are even alternative builds and shit. Just use Chromium and read the page.
(SRWare Iron is open sores though.)

Firefox is still the best I find.

>>61930084
>e17s
Are you OK, Anon? There is nothing like "e17s" and if you mean Electrolysis (e10s) then yes, I got it enabled by default.

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>>61921467

Fuck you all, best support, best features, you can’t have this.

>>61930140
It is. I wish there were option in Firefox to set your local page as a new tab page. Mozilla said Windowsfags were infested with malware thanks to custom new tab page, so they removed it without asking :(

>>61930178
>no webm support

>>61930178
I don't even use it on my iPhone.

>>61929924
>>>61923700

>>61930179
I just have my home page set to my email provider, then Ctrl+T immediately.

What's so bad about Vivaldi?

I just find it really fast and nice with the latest updates.

>>61930144
Not sure where I got that from, but I guess we will live.

>>61930239
So I should eat shit, just to be a bit safer from advertisers...
How does it affect me though? Like I see and download no ads. That is what I basically want. What else should I want?

>>61930246
> not using email client
OUCH

>>61930257
No sync. And the fuckslow Javascript UI.
Actually I watched the recent livestream and I just cringed during the entire video. It's literally Javascript hacks on top of Javascript hacks and on top of Javascript hacks. It's INSANE. Like the entire UI tries to search for text parts and whatnot, IT IS CRAZY I tell you. Just look up that livestream and you will vomit on your screen.

>>61930280
> not using email client
>OUCH
Depends on your definition. I don't access my email via a web browser, if that's what you are getting at.

>>61930280
But as a user, as someone who just wants a nice-looking browser which allows for customisation and stuff like that, will I notice any of that?

I say it because I've been using since the beta and I've had no issues AT ALL. I literally don't care about "back office" issues

>>61930294
Then why is it the starting tab?

>>61930297
> will I notice any of that?
Not really, and you should just use what YOU enjoy and find comfy. Just because someone says so... lol.
It is still in fact a monstrosity and I love Vivaldi's features - would be the happiest if they had a clean code or used native code. But maybe if they implement Sync, I will move anyway. They should also make a mobile browser (sync and adblock is all we need really.)

>>61930319
>Then why is it the starting tab?
Because it's a website that complies with DNSSEC and TLSA validation, so I can immediately tell if something fucky is up via my validator..

>>61930217
Thankfully! Stupid proprietary battery hog!

Why would I want a patent bomb like that?

>>61930235
And I’m Santa Claus

>>61930341
oh my.
how thick is the tinfoil you are wearing by the way? do you prefer any brands?
I started with 0.3mm thickness when I was a noob. But then I upped my game and went for 1mm thick to block any signals besides ads in my browser. Recently though I also experimented with 0.6mm because I can make it perfectly round and I can bend it better around my ears. That's where the real critical areas of your brain are, we all know.

>>61930355
>And I’m Santa Claus
Believe it or not. I prefer Brave on iOS.

>>61930364
So you are advocating that it is paranoid to have the DNSSEC/TLSA Validator installed? If so, that's fine. I'd rather be called paranoid than foolish.

>>61930365
Then you’re just stupid.

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>>61930381
Listen. They hear, they see, they know. Don't post anymore about this or they will track you down.
The people who knocked last day? Weren't from Jehova's witnesses. They were from your Friendly Ad Company. Be on your guard friend.

>>61921539
>stop following every single thing you hear online.
>implying Icecat >Palemoon>all is not common sense
fuck off tips fedora

>>61930032
>Chromium phones to Google.
That's better than Firefox phoning to Mozilla.
At least google is not too stupid to have George Soros as a partner

>>61930397
Care to build your strawman up any higher? It cost next to zero resources to have it as an add-on, and occasionally there will be an error with the core that requires a restart. Why NOT have it, and why not use a page that tests it upon opening your browser?

I just updated my hosts file on windows and now instead of relying on adblocks it gives me this message

www.adbanner.ro’s server DNS address could not be found.
track.clicksor.com’s server DNS address could not be found.
[/code]
obviously it's a good idea to have easylist and easyprivacy on + malware but host file is more robust when ti comes to blocking garbage

http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
https://www.hosts-file.net/

Whats that with palemoon and firefox extensions? I heard they work but mostly only the older versions of extensions. Is it true? If it is then where one can find older versions of extensions?

>>61930412
XD

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>>61921467
W-what about cyberfox?

I've been using it for a year or so.

I use opera bcs of its native adblocking, low ram consumption, speed and built in sidebar with messenger, which is very comfy and opera mini beta for my phone, 'cause it's clean and it saves data really lot

>>61927041
No addons and I can't remove the ones that come with it, only disable.

The only answer is to use Pale Moon until Firefox sorts itself out with addons.

>>61930521
Mozilla is our friend ^^

>>61930528
excellent browser. i use it whenever I get sick of Ice cat being a broken POS

>>61930557
://

>Mojewla shills still mad their perfect friendly diverse and multi-ethnic browser is infected with liberal propaganda

>>61930494
Go to Mozilla addons, select the addon, go to older versions. They keep all versions up to 2-3 years old.

>>61930528
Placebo. Firefox has had 64bit for years now. And the few "telemetry features" in firefox can be disabled in less than a minute. If you're gonna use a placebo browser then at least use waterfox which isn't as unpopular. Either way if you're concerned about privacy IceCat is a better choice.

>>61930539
Native adblocking doesn't mean efficient adblocking. Take Brave for example. It has "native" adblocking, but it merely integrated adblock plus into the browser. ABP has a hundred times worse performance than uBlock Origin.

>>61927041
ABP instead of uBO

>>61930587
If Brave enable ''about:config'' level of customization it will replace firefox very soon, specially after the 57 ''stable'' release
Reminder that Brave client is still in alpha

>>61924499
i dont see any soros am i blind? also a ff dev said its fake

>>61930583
I'm not American, so I don't care about gender or political views of Firefox developers

>>61930587
What browser do you use anon

>>61930612
>I don't care about fact-checking developed by OpenSociety in my browser
That's exactly why Europe is the laughing stock of the world even by arab standards
>muh superior neutral views xD

My perfect browser would be
>Firefox extension support
>Chrome performance (I know people meme about the RAM, but it's really smooth on my machine)
>No jewgle integration
>Firefox customization

>>61930622
Didn't notice any fact-checking in my Firefox

>>61930644
>implying something announced 8 days ago will be implemented in 30 days

All I want from a browser is to be able to right click on a video link and click "Open in mpv" to watch it.

Unfortunately chrome doesn't allow that so I'm stuck with firefox forever.

>>61930642
Pale Moon is CPU friendly but not as fast as Chromium and slightly more ram consuming than Chromium/Iridium
other than that it's the perfect browser.

>>61930528
I would try it, but I'm not finding any way to get it from repository.

>>61930528
Cyberfox was the best Firefox I ever tried and used.
Unfortunately, they decided to discontinue it so I stopped using it. :((

https://8pecxstudios.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=1756&start=30

the latest august chromium build is running so fast in my 2012 J1900 mobile CPU
I wish ungoogled-chromium had a better release schedule

>>61930704
Honestly if I were Mozilla I would send him cash to keep his build alive, as it's one of the best forks/builds out there. Freaking fast, no shit modifications and is done by a sane and dedicated person. But yeah, Mozilla has to use the cash for gender change operations I suppose.

>>61930708
Kinda sad they Woolys has no build WITH sync, but no WebRTC+Widevine.

>>61930739
>what is Chromium portable

>>61930704
They still put out updates for a year or so.

I'll stop using it when it breaks. For now it seems fine.

>>61930619
Firefox nightly :^)

>>61930726
Daily reminder mozilla revenue in 2014 was almost 400 million dollars and still 99% of their commits were made by volunteers because they don't even pay coders to test their beta releases

>>61930790
Nobody pays for beta testing anymore.

>>61930768
This page says its either all shit or no shit: https://chromium.woolyss.com/

>>61930772
Well, yeah, I just hate to make the switch in the last moment when I don't have time to and I must switch ASAP.

>>61930790
> by volunteers
Is this even true? Like Linux organizations also like to throw around words "contributors" and "volunteers". While in reality 99% of Linux is written by professional developers employed by big corporations like RedHat, IBM and such. So is it the same with Mozilla?

>IceCat
>You may be running nonfree programs on your computer every day without realizing it—through your web browser.
So it blocks my way if a JS script on a website I want to browse is non-free only because of GPL autism?

>>61930822
they pay some indians to ''promote'' firefox but most of the security and urgent fixes are done by volunteers
the investment in firefox is to develop other garbage such as Webrtc integration, pocket, etc.

>>61930788
I'd use it but too many extensions don't work yet (canvasblocker, decentraleyes, noscript, privacy settings). What extensions do you use?

>>61930859
You can just disable the LibreJS addon.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall it.

>>61931040
>libre bloatware
kek

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>>61927498
>>61922768
I thought Seamonkey started it's own council to run itself or some such junk.

I used it because I liked some of the suite junk it had, primarily Composer for when I needed to make some simple web page. However, I've been looking to distance myself from Firefox and related companies lately because I'm tired of their bullshittery on top of FF's massive memory issues.

I've been considering Vivaldi, Waterfox, and Palemoon based on other /g/ threads I've read, but this suggests that Vivaldi isn't so hot - that's fine, since it was third place on that list anyway.

Any recommendations for replacing Seamonkey for composing my junior high level sites?

>>61931106
I'm sure you can build it without the addons, but I'm too lazy to look into how.

>>61930962
Only uBlock Origin

>>61921467
Tor Browser without Tor. Remove all addons from Tor Browser, about:config set "network.proxy.type" to 0 and "network.proxy.socks_remote_dns" to false. Install uBlock Origin (an uMatrix if you want)

>>61931212
Why remove all addons? Or just the tor addons?

>>61931212
Hey that's not a bad idea

>>61931282
They are irrelevant for clearnet browsing

>>61921467
elder god tier: elinks
trash tier: everything else

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>lower cpu usage than chrome/firefox
>ublock origin and 4chanX support
>smooth scrolling
>best font rendering
What's your excuse, /g/?

>>61933042
what browser is that? edge?

>>61933098
yeah

>>61933134
>edge
>mlp
>reddit
get out

>>61930788
>people tell me to download nightly instead of brave
>it is significantly slower

Fuck you im just going to use Brave. I'm tired of Mozilla shills telling me not to.

>>61921467
>All Firefox derivates are now botnet
>GNU IceCat is not a Firefox derivative now

Are you people actually fucking retarded? I know that GNU is going to keep IceCat sane, but your fears are so inconsistent.

>>61933160
get memed on nigga

>>61921467
Google wants a "fact checker" too. So I guess no browser is usable now amirite xd? Let's just use tor guys xd

>>61924684
Not saying that article is fake, but you shouldn't use phys.org as a source, especially for science related things. Their writers are known for straight up making shit up

Is Water Fox any good?

>>61933290
Just dont use Chrome or Firefox. Simple.

>>61921467
>ungoogled-chromium
>Windows build STILL stuck on version 55
>stable Chrome version is 60
Why do people still recommend that crap?
>inb4 haha u use windows lmao loser

>>61929656
>When Otter is on the list, but Opera and Vivaldi aren't
Kek. What are lean browsers?

>>61930235
Yea, you do because any other browser on iOS is just a reskin faggot