>He uses Arch instead of Ubuntu minimal for his """"minimalistic""""

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>>61920083
You got a problem with that?

>>61920083
>not Solus which comes with 600~ packages and many of which can easily be removed (LibreOffice, media players, calculator, calendar, etc.), essentialy stripping it down to 500 and still fully functional

>>61920401
fuck off kevin

>>61920401
> 500
Bloated af.

>>61920429
post you are screenfetch

I manage thousands of Debian servers at my job.
Try doing that with rolling release Arch.

I use Puppy Linux.

>>61920083
how many packages?

I use Arch because it's rolling release and Debian sucks cock

>>61920083
I bet you wear shoes inside the house

>>61920508
ah yes, the classic reputation debian has for putting penises in its mouth.

>>61920544
It's the reputation the average Debian user has, that's for sure

Arch is good for a personal computer or a home server but it's not for real production servers

Rolling release, fuck you and your version upgrades that fuck up your system.

>binary
>rolling release
>very large package repo
>ports-ish build system
>mostly vanilla packages

The only downside of Arch is that it used to be shit years ago.

>>61920772
>large package repo
the offical repos are tiny. the ""devs"" leave it up to the users to put software onto the AUR.

>>61920083
>not using gentoo
off to >>>/v/ with you

>>61920083
Unlike Arch, I have had ubunghole actually shit the bed on a routine update.

>>61920401
>600 packages
>installing bloatware

>>61920804
The official ubuntu repos are tiny. The "devs" leave it up to lusers to put malware in PPAs.

>>61922199
>arch repos
9,000
>ubuntu repos
30,000+
hmm

>>61920083
>use Linux
>install botnet distro.

Why?
Just use Windows 10.

>>61922292
backup your claims please

>>61922257
B-But muh AUR

>>61922303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc

>>61922337
you claim it's a botnet distro - it wasn't. only the DE was """botnet""" and who even ever used the search feature, or even unity for that matter?
i'm not trying to justify it, but you are using invalid points.

>>61920083
because aur gives me access to everything without having to add a ppa for each specific piece of software that's not in the repo

>>61920083
fuck your ppa's, Ubuntu.

>>61922371
dont use an apostrophe for plurals please anon

>>61920452
only idiots claim rolling release is good for servers and you're an idiot for making that comparison

>>61922350
The company behind Ubuntu still makes money by collecting your personal data and selling it to advertisers.

That's their business model.

I don't understand? Why would I use Ubuntu minimal instead of Arch? What's the gain in this?

>>61920452
If this were true, you'd know there were well established ways of managing just such a situation.

>>61922383
Eat A Dick Faggot Your Post Is Far From Perfect

>>61922257
That's because:
1. Debian/Ubuntu splits everything into multiple packages.
2. Debian/Ubuntu adds additional versions with debugging symbols, which in 99% of cases you don't need and you can always recompile with them in case you do.

>>61922494
and arch claims to be minimalistic ramming all of these things into one package...
i'm sure this is how arch users define bloat.

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>>61922509
Oh look another moron who thinks Arch is "minimalist." Point and laugh, everyone.

>>61922509
Arch doesn't claim to be minimalist. Arch claims to be simple. So if you need libX, you search with your package manager and on Arch you get a single package satisfying the requirement and on Debian you get 20.

>>61920083
> """"minimalistic"""" operating system
> systemd
> GNU coreutils
> GNU bash
> glibc
yeah, right

>>61920083
stable Rolling release, KISS principle.
>>61922350
Whole point in ubuntu was Unity DE.

>>61922257
How many versions of Ubuntu are there, though? Divide the package numbers by that and you have meh.

>>61920401
Why would you want to remove Libreoffice?

>>61922509
>arch claims to be minimalistic
Rice-fag memes, not Arch.

>>61922257
Why do people care about number of packages?

Don't all distros have all the packages you'll realistically ever want?

The only thing I don't like about Arch is that I have to compile some packages myself, instead of having a binary version.
Not a big issue with small packages, but I once had to install a package that took over 2 hours to compile - fuck that shit.

>>61922664
it further enforces the fact that the arch ""dev team"" are lazy shits who make the system 'KISS' for their purposes, not for the user. they don't do any developing anyway, they only wait for new versions of packages and push them into the repos

>>61922595
because it's shit and google docs does everything I need plus maked collaboration easy and simple

>>61922664
>but I once had to install a package that took over 2 hours to compile
Get a better PC.

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>>61922337
this video can be redpilling for people who install a lot of proprietary garbage in their distro. I mean, it's ok to install some support for codecs but installing some freedom unfriendly shit like Steam is just unreasonable. If you want to still use all your botnet why not to just stay on Windows?

>>61922717
Arch is not KISS, Slackware is, but nobody in the right state of mind is using it.

>>61922970
>kiss
>manual dependancy management
what??

>>61922970
>kiss
>doesn't even have a unified package manager so you have to use different programs depending on where you're getting the software from
there's keeping it simple and then there's just being asinine

>>61922905
T460p

Package was QGIS (a program to show maps and geographic shapes) - in case anyone wonders.

>>61922994
KISS not equals user friendliness. Ios is not KISS
Slackware hasn't got any overcomplicated tools like systemd or an automated package manager which very often fetches additional packages that you don't need. Slackware in this sense is true KISS and muh Unix Philosophy.

>>61923129
>using kiss as an excuse to be a lazy dev

>>61920083
>he's an autistic neckbeard that complies code in order to use his computer

pathetic

>>61923173
>compiling programs in either ubuntu or arch
whut?

>>61922867
5 rupees have been deposited into your botnet account mr Pajeet.

>>61923188
>advocates functionality over foss bullshit
>must be a shill
ok chief

>>61923184
>arch has to be compiled in order to work
>has no out ''works out of the box version''

???

>>61923206
i think we're both a bit confused here anon

>>61922404
Got any proof on that? I was thinking of installing Ubuntu minimal.

>>61922923
I still have my grande steam library from my pre redpilled days. Now I only buy from GOG but I will continue to play the games I already payed for.

>>61923434
Do you dual boot?

>>61923491
no and I don't use wine because I want to incentivize the gaming industry to release games for my favourite platform too

>>61920083
I did this and got sick of setting things up so just installed Xubuntu desktop, which is basically pre-riced Xfce plus some extra packages. Minimal enough for me.

>>61920464
mah nigga

>>61922540
>Arch claims to be simple.
claims

>>61923203
you are new here, aren't you?
>>61923336
he doesn't. Ubuntu's Unity desktop used to show amazon ads based on keywords (it's disabled now). There are no spyware in minimal install. It's fucking FOSS which means you can inspect every component of the system yourself. If there were any bloat the community would scream about it on every corner.

>>61920536
kek

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>download ubuntu minimal
>end up selecting all boxes to give you ubuntu maximal because it's what you need
>have to download all shit that wasn't in the .iso in a boring 80's environment for half an hour

>>61924482
>It's fucking FOSS which means you can inspect every component of the system yourself. If there were any bloat the community would scream about it on every corner.

Just how if there were any serious security vulnerabilities in Linux, they would be caught quickly cause ITS FUCKIN FOSS, even though there have been numerous cases where critical bugs go un-noticed for years. And this is the Linux kernel. Ubuntu users are babbies. You think they're going to start looking at the source?

>>61920401
>500 packages
>freebsd with xorg a wm and a couple of lightweight tools is ~300 packages

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>>61920556
I've never put a benis in my mouth, baka.

>>61920401
>Solus
>600 packages

So it comes with all available packages installed?

>>61925505
Yep, you got the minimal part wrong. You shouldn't select any boxes.
>>61926763
Ubuntu is used by a lot of different people, also it has a big slice of a server os market so if there would be some unusual activity with uploads and leaks - we would've already knew about it.

>>61923054
>T460p
Get a better PC.

>>61920401
>remove all the useful shit
>"now my OS is fully functional"
kek