Switching to Mac OS ?

Make your own decisions

>>61905969
Stick with what you use best and don't let the /g/tards meme you into stupid shit. They're all NEETs who live off disability.

>>61905969
>Web dev
>Code a lot
> Software engineer

God the memes are creating life.
Didn't know software engineering was a major it's kind of idiot. Only thing I know is computer engineering

If you want to use Linux get a Dell XPS for good driver support. Macs are fucking awful for Linux. I say this as someone who daily drives a MacBook and has used Linux on most manufacturers. Dell is better than most, even Thinkpads.

>>61906313
Computer engineers do electrical engineering shit, CS majors write actual code.

>>61905969
>So I'm doing a web dev. degree, I'm mostly using adobe products and I code alot. I plan on doing a software engineering degree after this. I've been using a PC my whole life and I've recently started using linux. But I want to switch to Mac OS and dual boot Archlinux/Ubuntu/ElementaryOS, what should I do? Should I just stick to a PC?
I switched to macOS 3 months ago after a bunch of threads on here and after watching YT videos on how to do it.

Basically, I just installed Hackintosh on a brand new SSD so I couldn't fuck up my Win10 install at all. Install was painless. It even installed bluetooth perfectly (something I could never get working right under Arch).

Anyway, take the Hackintosh route. It's fucking easy. Install is easier than Windows. Just make sure your HW is supported (TonyXmac86 will help you with that).

I'm also a programmer and macOS is the best for programming because of all the tooling for it (all the tools from Github that I use are macOS-first... that's one of the major reasons why I switched).

Good luck

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>>61905969
>web dev
>degree
You'll fit right in with the other fags at starbucks.

>>61905969
Switch to macos
The flexibility of Unix with the proprietary software support of Windows

>>61906437
macos is fucking shit for programming, fuck off shill.

>>61907750
You're a fucking idiot. Only ASP code monkeys actually give a shit about windows. The rest of the programming world has already transitioned away from Winshit.

>>61908552
>windows
If only there was another OS available other than Windows and Mac...

>>61908552
>mactoddler takes offense at someone calling his fruity toddler toy OS what it is
>instantly lashes out at windows

lmao@urlyfe

Windows 10 Pro is not that bad and if you want DX12 graphics, just set it to update at night when you are asleep then you wont even notice the updates.

>>61907750
>macos is fucking shit for programming
proof? why are all the top Github projects developed on macOS?
>fuck off shill
not an argument. stay retarded and mad.

>>61906313
Computer engineering is hardware and software but software engineering is basically another word for “someone who can program in C or java”

>>61907750
It supports all the tools that Linux supports except none of the disadvantages, plus it has Xcode and Cocoa which are pretty nice.

Basically you have as much IDE support as windows, while keeping native access to the "UNIX IDE" with emacs/acme/vi/vim, clang/gcc, lldb/gdb, etc.

And the terminals have the advantage of being piped ttys that can get dumped and restored if something kill the terminal emulator, which is better than having all of them rely on one xserver.

>>61905969
What is a web dev degree? Is it a BS or associate's?

>>61908781
>top Github projects
Spotted the mactoddler nodejs dev.

windows
>good for games
>good for pajeets

linux
>no commerical software
>usually poorfag chinkpad hardware
>spend 10x more times ricing than actual programming
>only write fizzbuzz

mac os
>premium hardware
>native vim/emacs, bash/zsh, tmux
>no need to rice
>get actual work done

really makes you think

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>>61908985
>macshit
>actual work

>>61909071
refurbished plastic trash with 768p TN shit tier display vs premium hardware
loving every laugh

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>>61908985
>Premium hardware

>>61908985
Thank you for letting us know you've never used Linux.

>>61905969

>Adobe products
So Linux is off the table. Premiere Pro and After effects render faster on PC, but the whole CC suite works great on OSX. I've found OSX better for creative tasks than Windows.

If you're used to Linux, you'll appreciate OSX. Then you can run VMWare Fusion with whatever distro so you don't have to dual boot.

>>61909197
How so?
If you go with babbys first Linux like Ubuntu, you will never have as nice of an user experience like Mac OS simply because Open Source fags can't into design and UX.
If you want to have a pleasant Linux experience you need to rice the shit out of it to come close to the comfyness of Mac OS.

I used to be poor too

>>61909326
>If you want to have a pleasant Linux experience you need to rice the shit out of it to come close to the comfyness of Mac OS.
Thank you for continuing to prove you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

>>61909326
>I used to be poor too
MacOS is free, you fucking retard. You're literally more likely to be rich if you use windows on a mac than if you use macOS.

>>61909348
Maybe try again with an actual argument.

>>61909370
>licensed to only run on machines you buy them on
>"""free"""
I thought you freetards knew your licensing stuff

>>61909404
>Maybe try again with an actual argument.
And what was your argument? MacOS is better because you say so?
>I thought you freetards knew your licensing stuff
Quote me the price for macOS then, please.

>>61909404
>>licensed to only run on machines you buy them on
>>"""free"""
>I thought you freetards knew your licensing stuff
Are you seriously this stupid? If you're running windows on a mac, you already paid full price for it.
Learn to read.

>>61909454

Holy shit you're dense. He meant OSX is only licensed on the hardware, not Winblows.

Not him, but you're seriously bad at reading.

>>61909428
You're literally too retarded to understand the difference between free of charge vs free and you obviously can't comprehend the argument I made about the out-of-the-box experience of Linux.

>>61909454
>MacOS is free
It's fucking not you imbecile.

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>>61908985

>>premium hardware

>>61909500
You're worse. I specifically said windows running on a mac. Are you going to pretend not to read it again?

>>61909526
Try reading >>61909370 again.
First 3 words are enough if your attention span can manage that you waste of oxygen

>>61909504
>You're literally too retarded to understand the difference between free of charge vs free
Because there is none.

>and you obviously can't comprehend the argument I made about the out-of-the-box experience of Linux.
You didn't post an argument, you posted an uneducated opinion. All the same to you, I know.

>>MacOS is free
>It's fucking not you imbecile.
Then post the price.

>>61909547
You're quoting my own post, you complete retard...

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>>61908985
>premium hardware

>>61909567
Up until here I was failing for your bait, don't overdo it so obviously next time :^)

>>61909611
How did you feel about tonight's episode?

>>61909617
>gets BTFO
>le bait XD
Better luck next time kiddo.

>>61909642
Mac OS is not free you brainlet.
You purchase a license with the hardware you buy.
Notice how there is no way to purchase a license any other way.

I'd suggest reading the SLA too but seeing as you're struggling with 3 words you came up with yourself I don't see much hope here
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macOS1012.pdf

I feel sorry for your parents, I hope they got through the disappointment phase and now just accept your fate.

>>61907750
>shilling something free

>>61905969
here's some tips and recomendations:
-brew as a packet manager
-spectacle as a windows manager
-the unarchiver to extract files
-transmission for torrents
-liteicon to change the icons of the apps
-iina as a media player, it's mpv with a good gui
-openemu for retro games
-firefox or its forks for browsing, safari lacks a lot of addons imo
-appcleaner deletes apps and all of it's traces from the so
-if the so refuses to open an unsigned app, do a right-click and click on open
-avoid mackeeper at all costs, it's fucking aids
-check https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_OS_X_software for more recommended apps and https://github.com/drduh/macOS-Security-and-Privacy-Guide for privacy-related things

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>>61909152
recycled beer can trash with glossy shit tier shit tier display vs premium hardware
loving every laugh

>>61909753
>purchase a license
There is no way to purchase a Debian license, does this mean Debian isn't free?

Also, you keep avoiding my point: if you're running windows on a mac, then you already paid this "price" you claim. Are you going to pretend not to read this a 4th time?

>>61909827
>brew
Ew.

>>61909846
No one cares about your fucking point nor made any reference to it.
Fact is - as reading the Mac OS SLA or doing any kind of research of the meaning of 'free' in software licensing would have told you -
that your statement
>Mac OS is free
is plain false and you are too much of a fedora tipping neckbeard to accept that.

>>61905969
no

>>61909967
>No one cares about your fucking point nor made any reference to it.
I accept your defeat.

>Fact is - as reading the Mac OS SLA or doing any kind of research of the meaning of 'free' in software licensing would have told you -
>that your statement
>>Mac OS is free
>is plain false and you are too much of a fedora tipping neckbeard to accept that.
No it isn't. MacOS is free, you can download a copy right now and run it for free on a hackintosh. The fact that they don't sell it doesn't mean it isn't free - again, Debian isn't sold, but you can also download it and run it for free.
The SLA is not a binding document. No one has gone to court over it. You have no clue what you're talking about.

>>61910032
>I accept your defeat.
I can smell the angsty sweat from here; you're pathetic.
Nice try weasling out of it, though.

>MacOS is free
No.
>you can download a copy right now and run it for free on a hackintosh.
You can download a copy of basically every software on your favorite torrent tracker without paying for it.
Going by your """logic""" all that software is free too.
I'm struggling to see how you fail to understand such an easy concept, if you are actually mentally challenged I'm sorry for pointing it out.

>>61910174
But it's illegal pirating to run that software without paying. It's not illegal to download macOS. You can get a copy from Apple's own servers this moment for free.

I've never seen anyone this mad at finding out a piece of software is free.

Late to the party, but if you want a Mac and don't want to build a hackintosh, check out the refurbished section on Apple's site and see what you can get that has discreet graphics. Tim Cook is really doing a number on Apple, and they've gone from being overpriced, to offensively wallet-raping.

I personally have a 2011 iMac that O still use and it's still going strong today. I personally prefer OSX over Windows. It's a great OS just make sure you get a good deal on the hardware.

>>61910174
That software isn't free because of copyrights, not because of a ToS. You don't really know much about this, do you?

>>61905969
27" imac is one of the best computers on Earth if you can afford $1700, put Windows on that through Bootcamp and you own shit for years.

>>61905969
Don't dual boot Linux you nig. Just use Mac os with Homebrew and it's the same thing. Then you get to keep that battery life and consistent experience and still use the Adobe shit

>>61910303
No, it's not the same thing.

>>61910303

This.

Hackintosh is illegal (don’t listen to those excuses, it is not), and never works right.

macOS + Homebrew and you’ll never need Linux.

Also, I’ve bout a 5K iMac, it’s simply cheaper than a homemade PC, if you copy spec-for-spec, the LCD alone is worth more than 1300!

>>61910367
Post pic of your imac 5k with a timestamp, rajesh.

>>61910216
pirating a piece of software to use it without buying a license is the same fucking thing as using software that is limited to specific hardware on a different hardware.
to quote the Mac OS SLA:
>you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time.

Will you go to prison for it? No. Just as noone gives a fuck if you pirate/download a piece of software and use it without paying for a license.
That does N O T make it free tough. With software you usually purchase a license in terms of a product key, with Mac OS you purchase a license via the hardware.

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>>61910367
>iShit
>overheats
>8bit trash panel
>worst dead pixel warranty in the ENTIRE INDUSTRY
>glossy shit
>performs worse than 5 year old $500 acer

>>61910383
>it's true because the license says so
The license is not a legally binding document. It doesn't matter what they put on there, it has as much weight as the back of a cereal box.

>>61910387
To be fair that $5k for the pro, not the iMac that's mentioned.

>>61910466
If license doesn't matter every software is free.
You can't just cherrypick licenses that match your shitty argument, my boy.

>>61910519
Again, you don't know the difference between copyrighting and licenses. That software has a price, it's a commercial product you can buy, and distributing it is a copyright infringement. MacOS is not a commercial product, there is no price attached and you can distribute it all you want. There is absolutely nothing in the ToS forbidding you from building a hackintosh, it just says you can do X, it doesn't say you can't do Y. You basically have nothing supporting your claim.

I don't even know why I'm bothering, my whole point was that running windows on a mac at the very least means you're less likely to be poor, but you couldn't counter that so you held on to irrelevant documents with zero court weight.

>>61910519
Are you stupid or something? It's not illegal to torrent photoshop because of the EULA, it's illegal because it's copyright infringement by the torrent hoster.
For fuck's sake, stop and think: if you never install photoshop, you never agree to the EULA, yet it's still illegal. Or do you think everyone on piratebay gets away by not signing terms of service?

>61910592
>61910627
>distributing it is a copyright infringement
Of course it is - I never said it wasn't.
You however fail to realize that you don't have to distribute software to use it without a license.
If you simply download some paid software you don't own a license for and don't share it, you are not infringing copyright, but violating the software license, which requires you to own a product key to use the software. Which you don't have, but that DOES NOT MAKE THE SOFTWARE FREE.
If you download Mac OS from some source, you are not infringing copyright, but violating the software license, which requires you to own an Apple computer to use the software. Still not free software.

I'm afraid I can't dumb it down any more...

>>61910387
STFU liar, stop posting crap fanboy sites!

>>61910476

It's wrong, I have the 2017 5K iMac, it's a 10 bit panel.

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>>61910377

Post your craptop and apologize because you said that the iMac has 8 bit display

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>>61910775
>mactoddlers literally have to lie to shill their fruity trash

Sorry, but not everyone is a gullible brain dead mactoddler.

>>61910695
Yes it is free. If there are ZERO legal grounds to force me to pay for something, then that something is free. I don't care what the license days, because the license isn't a legal document.

>>61910901
Panjeet, does anyone in your village have a Mac? When you use one for the first time, you'll surely wish to upgrade from Windows XP running on 256MB of RAM.

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>>61910872
>mactoddlers LITERALLY believe ANYTHING applel tells them

>>61910939
>gets caught not even knowing the hardware specs
>"u r le indian xD"
Lose with some dignity.

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>>61910872
>mactoddler thinks framebuffer is the same thing as the screen panel

>mactoddler tier technology literacy

YOU

CAN'T

MAKE

THIS

SHIT

UP

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>>61905969
>the state of mactoddler buyer's remorse

>>61910695
>apple distributes macOS for free
>nothing in the EULA forbids you from using a hackintosh
>no legal precedent for enforcing EULA in court, even if it did
>tons of site host hackintosh binaries with no takedowns
Yet some moron insists it isn't free.
You should email apple telling them you know their software better than them.

>>61910943

Nigga trusts the fucking press that has NO ACCOUNTABILITY, while distrusting Apple...

>>61905969
mac os is wose than temple os, don't use it, it made me gay

>>61910939
I run XP with 1.5GB RAM, thank you very much.

>>61911012
Ok show us a source from Apple saying it's a 10-bit panel.

I'm sure every single tech news site decided to lie about the same thing. It's all a big conspiracy.

>>61905969

Macs are great for media, particularly audio recording.

For anything else go PC.

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>>61910977

Must be hard accepting the truth...

>>61910992

Yeah, posting shit from 1992...

Good thing I have ZERO dead pixels, and with Apple, I can return the device within 15 days, no questions asked.

>>61911004
>>apple distributes macOS for free
Only if you bent over and bought the original hardware first

>>61911075

And only for upgrade.

These niggers can't accept the fact that they have stolen software.

Doesn't suit them.

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>>61911012
>EVERYONE IS LYING EVEN DA APPLE LOYALIST WEBSITES
>t. mactoddler on full damage control

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>>61910992
How will mactoddlers EVER recover?

>>61911061
>I can return the device within 15 days, no questions asked.
Is this supposed to be something special for Americans? I can buy literally anything and return it within 14 days for whatever reason I want and get a full refund as long as I didn't consume it if it was a consumable good

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>>61911164
>>61910901
>>61910387
Dell doesn't have this problem. :^)

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>the state of mactoddlers

>>61911195

In Europe, if you buy online, you have those 14 days.

In stores, most stores have that policy, but it's not obligatory.

>>61911199

Do you have a Dell 5K monitor?

>>61911283
see >>61910387

>>61906437
Using Hackintosh here, too, but without Tonymacfag's *beast tools. The best way is Vanilla way:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/68p1e2/ramblings_of_a_hackintosher_a_sorta_brief_vanilla/

Because *beast tools directly modify OS X installation, while with Vanilla install, all modifications are kept in a separate EFI partition, leaving OS X clean. The biggest advantages are you know exactly what is being modified, and system upgrades have less chances of fucking up your installation. It's a bit harder to set up, though, but worth it. Just make sure you have a backup plan. I use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup of the Hackintosh in case of fuckups or disk failure.

>>61911308

Fuck off, post a timestamped picture of your Dell 5K monitor.

>>61905969
Don't bother dual booting a Mac. It ends up being a pain in the ass.

Just stick with Mac OS. It's unix based so it's easy to work with.

>>61911382
>t. mactoddler

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>>61905969
>Should I just stick to a PC?
Yes. Macs are garbage, shit build quality, overheats constantly, fans sound like jet engines, but brainwashed mactards will defend their fruit religion to the death and filter out reality.

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>>61907750
>shit for programming
>the only *NIX OS that is actually VIABLE for daily use on a desktop
kek enjoy your bloated slow ass piece of shit of visual studio "editor" and your operating system that can't even manage memory properly
>b-but I use laanox
EVEN WORSE LMAO
>slow ass deprecated file system
>communist pajeet tier (((free software))) all over

>>61905969
Build a hackintosh, it's not hard and if you need help there's more than enough on insanelymac forums, tonymac and the hackintosh discord. Just be sure to do a vanilla install (the only thing hard about it is properly setting up your config.plist file).

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>>61911413

LMAO, keep trying...

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Fucking NEETs and pajeets using this and they don't even know!

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>>61911871
>hfs2.0