/pcbg/ - PC Building General - GOUGED edition

When's 56?

>>61899424
28.08

If I can only get a blower vega, will there be aftermarket coolers available soon?

>>61899435
Founders or partner?

>>61899444
Most likely oem although there were some prototype aib card leaks.

Vega is literally DOA. Better buy 1080/1080ti now before they go out of stock due to people being disappointed by AMD again.

>>61899460
Thanks /g/ friend.

Is my wattage too high
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rZ64bj

where the fuck is vega? it's not on amazon

Finally about to make my first build. Already had cash saved up but wanted yalls thought before I actually go through with it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3Xfbj

videos are up on youtube, linus and pauls hardware have their vega reviews up. hopefully they tell us when orders begin.

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AHHHHHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ4Exiban2w

Amd shills lied to me. 56 isn't even 20% more powerful

>>61899537
no.
you don't need aftermarket cooler for a locked cpu. if you really want to get one though then get cryorig h7, which should cost the same but performs better.
get newer seagate model instead. this one is st1000dm003, the new one is st1000dm010.
switch psu to evga 500b.

>>61899558
looks good to me

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>>61899637
IT'S JUST NOT UP COMPLETELY YET RIGHT?
IT COULDNT SELL OUT THAT FAST

>>61899637
So vega 56 will be available to buy on the 28th, i guess we wont be getting any FE's

>>61899680
I should have mentioned the Vega 56, looking at benchmarks it uses a ton of power under load, this has got me worried with 500w PSU

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>>61899692
>$599 rx vega 64
>$499 variant sold out
>WAIT!
>I WAITED!!!!!!
just.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>61899718
shouldn't be that bad. if you're worried you could spend less on the case and put more money into psu. also that i5 might bottleneck vega in 1080p.

even the $500 are now out of stock

Time to buy a 1070 because vega is trash

>>61899741
I built this in mid-2015 currently w/ a 970. How much of a bottleneck do you think?

Vega confirmed for hot garbage

I waited for literally nothing. it sold out in seconds
i thought that was a meme. ill keep f5ing for another hour then it's bedtime for me

>shit performance
>despite its shit performance it sold out to the miners anyway
AMDfags on suicide watch

>>61899843
in the same boat bro, its even bedtime for me.
gunna scope out nvidia 1080 and up to see if prices drop

>>61899858
F for freesynce owners

>>61899896
They saved 200 dollars but in return they never got a gpu. You literally cannot make this shit up.

gpu brices goming down

when

soooo, when is volta coming out?

>>61899936
Q1 2018

how long until they have stock again

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>had vega in my cart
>decided to click on linus cuck tips
>moved out of my cart and out of stock

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>>61899997
>missed the get too

>could've gotten a 1070 for $416 but decided to wait on the vega 56 and see how good it is.
>only 5-10% stronger in some games
>is powerhungry as fuck
Fuck amd

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>>61899997
>watching Linus ever

would this thing be able to handle fallout4 preforming around 40-50 fps?

>>61900067
it cant handle anything because it's out of stock

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>>61900067

forgot pic

how long until aftermarket versions of vega come out?

>>61900099
it should
my garbage 860m can run it at 40 with medium settings

>>61899377
is that a good price or not I don't even know

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>>61899997
>>61900020
WAIT FOR 56

>>61900120
turned out to be fake
it's 100 less but it's sold out so it doesnt matter
they will probably raise the price to that now

>>61900138
between the cryptokikes and ebay resellers we never had a chance.

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>>61900227
JUST

Damn. I've been out the game for a bit and thought if I came in with a $950 budget I could get something decent but these GPU prices are bananas.

Current rig has a Core2Duo though so anything will be better.

>>61900280
Just buy a 1050Ti and wait for better prices later

>>61900227
>tfw making mad gains on crypto
>GPU prices keep going up because so is everyone else
I feel very conflicted about this. I was going to use my crypto money to buy a computer but GPU prices keep going up or out of stock

>>61900308
kill yourself cryptofag

>>61900280
I'm literally you and was going to do a build a year and a half ago and now I'm contemplating suicide. I wasted the money on drugs instead. Just fuck my shit up

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Does anyone know if Vega will feature FineWine™ technology or not? Kind of disappointing Vega64 is so far behind 1080Ti considering it uses a massive amount more power.

>>61900348
kys yourself

>>61900524
I will do it myself

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>mfw Vega56 is just a year-late 1070 that draws more watts

top mistake was starting to work for a computer shop because i like building pcs. all i do is move stock and im not able to tell customers when theyre buying shit

>>61900635
what shit are you selling them?

>>61900635
just advertise yourself locally that you build PCs for $$$. there are loads of retards who know that buying parts separately is better but are too afraid to actually build.

This is my current PC (don't laugh)
www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cyberpower-gaming-battalion-504-pc-485-ebuyer-2058249

Should I buy these parts?
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-prime-b350-plus-amd-b350-s-am4-ddr4-sata3-m2-(pcie-sata)-2-way-crossfire-realtek-lan-usb-31-a-a?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxrff2vPW1QIVZZPtCh2svg9NEAQYASABEgJCR_D_BwE

http://www.ebuyer.com/784315-amd-ryzen-5-1600-6-core-am4-cpu-processor-with-wraith-spire-95w-yd1600bbaebox?mkwid=s_dc&pcrid=51482416859&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIspm84_PW1QIVgZ3tCh2zRQm3EAYYASABEgK93fD_BwE

http://www.ebuyer.com/787054-sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb-pulse-graphics-card-11266-04-20g?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dc&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgvaUivbW1QIVg7DtCh1UbQijEAQYASABEgIkB_D_BwE

>>61900676
I am one of these retards.
I would pay a fair price for assembley.

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Do I need increase cpu voltage when I OC R3 1200 to 3600ghz?
What is the safe voltage number?

so who here is waiting for coffee lake? I'm still on a i5 3570 and i don't have the heart to jump to ryzen especially when coffee lake is right around the corner
>>61900695
also anon how much would you pay? because this is essentially what I've done for my friends when I was in high school but going back into it I don't know what to consider "reasonable" price tag in £

>>61900745
apparently you can keep voltage at stock up until 3.7ghz or so iirc

>>61900683
rx 570 are overpriced right now. better buy gtx 1060 3gb / 6gb if you can afford it. you might want to check what psu you have.

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>>61900308
>buying so many graphics cards for cryptomining that you need multiple systems
>when you could have made 10x the amount buying ASICs

How does it feel to be retarded, cryptofag?

pic related

Does Gabario even make good cards anymore, or am I going to catch my PC on fire?

>>61900763
Il crashing twice when I do 3.7ghz with Witcher 3.

>>61900787
>mining
Fuck that noise, trading is where the money is. But thanks to miners the demand keeps going up and the supply keeps going down. They're basically putting thousands in my pockets while they scrape for pennies every day. Stay salty, nocoiners

>>61900823
in that case Ryzens cheat sheet for overclocking is ramp it to 1.4v and go down in small increments from there

>>61900867
Why not go up from default value instead?

>>61900842
>trading is where the money is
Sure, for about 5 years.

Then one morning, at your mid-tier (read:shit tier) house you bought with your crypto money:
>*Knock Knock*
>Hell- Who the hell are you?
>SEC, we are here to take all of your shit for evidence, we have a warrant. Let us in, or spend even more time in federal ass rape prison.
>O-o-o-okay, but be gentle, its my first time.

>>61900745
#SiliconLottery as always, but you should be able to hit 3600 at stock voltage

New AM4 motherboards when

>>61900672
i see such retarded builds like aio coolers on super low end cpus, questionable pairings (7700k with a 1050), psus of brands i cant remember. a guy today got a full tower with a matx motherboard. i dont get what these people are thinking.

>>61900676
the pay will never be as good though, its not a minimum wage job or close to (and pays super).

>>61899377
Looking to make a system that can run current and future games at 1080p 60hz, with a possibility of upgrading to a dual monitor setup in the future, how's my build looking?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kcJwsJ

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So Amazon just cancelled my fucking GPU order, $437 for a 1080, and now they won't honor the sale price anymore.

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>>61900897
starting from the default voltage is fine, but i'd imagine it'd take longer to find a perfectly stable and fine tuned voltage will take longer than going down as i'm guessing you'd have to go through more stress tests and etc but if you're not short for time its probably the best way to do it going up in 0.05 increments or so
but if you are short for time I was recommended 1.4v with a 240mhz offset(if your mobo has it) iirc to get ryzen to around 4ghz - stress test it on AIDA 64 for 10mins then go down in 0.05 increments if it doesn't crash, keep repeating this until it crashes and stick to the voltage before the crash
>>61900942
as this anon says though #SiliconLottery is always a factor the best ryzen 1200 has overclocked to iirc is 3.8/3.9ghz
>Pic not related just wanted to post one

>>61899997
>watching linus
You deserve it.

>>61901280
In the case of the 1200, I really would recommend upgrading to the 1300X for the extra $20
Better stock speeds out of the box, still comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler, and you'll (probably) get a little more overclocking headroom....or at least slightly better voltages while overclocking

>>61900348
Dude it's always something. I might need a root canal which is MORE than the cost of my dream rig. And New York wants $65 for driving thru the bridge without an EZ pass. Life is the game Monopoly but all the properties are already bought and you just draw shitty chance cards.

is it worth it to invest in bigger/better case and better fans before up upgrading anything else?
the summer is almost done and im doing fine temperature wise during the fall/winter, so im wonder whether i should invest in new case/fans or just change something else that will boost my performance

>>61901343
Depends on what you have now

>>61901203
this is like fourth time of you posting this and you still have single channel ram

>>61900317
Kys /v/aggot

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>>61901354
some 2 basic nothing special fans
one on top of the cpu and one next to the usb slots in the back
case pic related

>>61901327
Its margin of error stuff really comparing an overclocked 1300x and 1200 about a 100mhz difference, I think the big question that makes people buy one or the other is "Do you like overclocking?" if no buy a cheap motherboard and the 1300x if yes the question then is "are you happy buying a B350 motherboard (£70ish) to achieve the performance benefit?" but i see where you're coming from anon
>>61901380
Redpill me on dual channel ram, I keep hearing its superior I've been using single channel and had no issues so far desu

Got a perfectly good HDD that was W7 installed on it. Can I just slap it into my new rig with a blank SSD, install whatever onto the SSD from boot and just format the HDD when it's up and running? Kind of a stupid question I'm sure but I usually just get new drives for new rigs but I had to cut cost somewhere this time around.

>>61900916
???

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check out this mad deal

This is essentially what my build looks like and with the 1050.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hZzkM8

My budget is about 800-1100 so let me know if I'm fucking up.

>>61899444
never buy the founders card

>>61901576
>buying a new Vishera
just jump to Ryzen, the new AM4 socket isn't going anywhere for a while

>>61901576
with 800 even you can get an R5 1600 you dummy, don't get FX

>>61900054
this desu. I'm just gonna build a r5 1600 with a 1060 or 580 (whatever is available) to hold off until Volta.

>>61901576
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jGhKr7

>>61901608
>>61901611

You're right. How about this? With the monitor I can't even afford a new mouse...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hfx2yf

>>61901715
this is what it looks like at the moment
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7smsJ

>>61901777
144Hz is not a good choice with a 1050Ti

>>61901719
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jGhKr7

Oh I like this build. I really like this build.

Do new cards always sell this fast or did miners really just buy them all ot

>>61901801
Oh ok. fuck it. I'll use the one I have.

>>61901719
>>61901806
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QC44bj
Honestly, I would pay the extra few bucks for the G3, it's EVGA's best PSU line right now

>>61901820
Miners
PLUS
The hype for Vega has been building for entirely too long
PLUS
Since AMD figured out how to make good CPUs again, no brakes on the fanboy train

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>>61899377
First time buying a new gpu, is this little thing supposed to be out?
It's a gtx 1050ti superclocked with a pci-e x16 slot
Also after I installed the gpu the windows bootscreen is now showing up twice when I power my pc on, is that harmless?

Is PC Specialist bad? I am no good with my hands and doubt my assembly skills are up to scratch to not fuck something up.

>>61901865
>First time buying a new gpu, is this little thing supposed to be out?
Yes

>Also after I installed the gpu the windows bootscreen is now showing up twice when I power my pc on, is that harmless?
Probably, just keep an eye out for other weirdness going on

Is there any advantage to the Samsung Pro over the Evo? Looking to grab a 256gb SSD for my OS and maybe a couple gaymes.

>>61901719
>>61901844
>Western Digital SSD
>Seagate HDD
DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS, YOU'LL KILL US ALL!

Will we ever get off the miners train? Is there a way I can crash all crypto currencies? I'll do everything to achieve this if it's possible.

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>>61901915
>mfw three WD and two Seagate HDD's in my computer right now

>>61901931
Become the president of the united states of America and outlaw crypto currencies

>>61899377
rate my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7smsJ

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y4Gx3F

R8 and h8

So where are the packs?

>>61902057
>650W power supply
Literally why

>>61902104
I was waiting for Vega 56 but you know how that went. Now I'll just hold off until volta

Does an mATX motherboard fit in a shoebox?

>>61902069
kek

>>61902085
and following up, I'm reading across the board dissappointment for the 64 because of "year late" and "comparing to 1080 on average" at best. Better stuff for the 56 then.

So is 64 a failure outside of myners buying everything out? Didn't hear mention of drivers in the reviews possibly saving the card(s).

What would be an ideal build for $500?

Volta when?

Considering buying an 8700k when/if they launch in September. Are they likely to sell out in all of 5 minutes like Vega just did?

Further, what's this about them not being compatible with existing mobos?

>>61902176
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhZF2R

>>61902309
>Coffee Lake will be used in conjunction with the 300-series chipset, and will not work with the 100- and 200-series chipsets.

>>61902329
>optical drive

>>61902359
You think a super-budget user isn't going to still need one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nqdRG
I want to lower the price somehow
What should I butcher

>>61902402
go ryzen 1600 and just overclock
get a better psu tho

>>61902402
Get the 1600 and use the stock cooler
Get 3200 MHz RAM

>>61902402
>$15 power supply
Shit nigger what are you doing.

>>61902415
>>61902426
Ill use the 1600 then, it drops to around 590$,

>>61902439
I could probably used the saved money on something better, what do you recommend

>>61902345
Three sockets a year keeps the goy in fear.

>>61900787
>ethereum ASIC mining
you might be retarded

>>61901875
bump

>>61902402
>15 dollarydoo PSU from literal who

PSU can commit sudoku and take out every other part too if you buy a shit one. EVGA G3 series or anything from Seasonic are good.

Get B350 mobo, switch 1600X to non-X and overclock it yourself. Also 3200mhz ram that is on the motherboard manufacturer's QVL list.

>>61902554
>>61902439
>>61902426
>>61902415
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J3kjFd
Better?

>>61902454
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cvbM8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZNF4bj
Rate
I should mention that i'll use my old gpu until volta comes out

>>61902583
gucci maine

>>61902601
750W is a little too much

>>61902593
Thats 7 dollars less than the build I have and appears to beat
>>61902583

>>61902638
I know but im getting it for future-proofing (sli/cf)

I have the H55 cpu cooler, but the fan is very noisy. Can I control the speed by using CHA_FAN1 or 2? These are 4-pins, the fan is 3 pin, but can I just leave one pin unused?

>>61902375
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhZF2R
Any idea if all of those items are available on Amazon, so I can get free shipping through Amazon Prime? And, yeah, I don't need an optical drive, so I just won't order that. lol.

>>61902733
Look into getting a PWM fan, those are the ones with 4 pins. It allows them to spin at different speeds based on temperature readings so it won't always run at max. However a normal fan will fit in a 4 pin slot, it has a key that allows 3 pins to go in but only one way.

>>61902523
>not getting the recent DASH miner and getting $200 per day

Its like you hate money, cryptofag

>>61902903
So I can run the fan from a 4pin slot, but not control the speed? To be able to control speed I need 4pin fans?

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What will lose me less money reselling in 4 months time, a £350 1070 or a £450 1080?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLTPr7

I dare you to do better for $700

>>61902945
The 4th pin lets whatever the fan is connected to control the speed
I would definitely recommend that the fan(s) attached to your CPU cooler are 4-pin

>vega 64 is shit
>who the fuck knows when vega 56 will be available and if it'll be worth the price
>found 1080 for 580 eurobucks
>one of the cheapest options
>have to skimp out on monitor now because 1080 is more than I anticipated to spend on the GPU
>found 28" samsung 4K display for 350 eurobucks
>it has freesync
>autism can't handle having freesync when I can't even use it
Why does G-sync have to be so damn jewy?

>>61902976
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xxJtGf
I tried.

>>61903048
>found 28" samsung 4K display for 350 eurobucks

for that price looks like some tn shit

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>>61903055

>>61903064
It is but the cheapest ips is 100 euros more expensive.

>>61902976
>seagate
lmao

>>61903111
It maybe worth it. 28" is pushing it for a tn panel imo.

>>61902945
>To be able to control speed I need 4pin fans?

No and yes.

Most 3 pin fans can be controlled by changing the voltage.

But to do it from your motherboard it will need to have this as a feature.
I think all ASUS motherboards for example can do this, and so can many others but not all.
Alternatively you could buy a separate fan controller (most fan controllers use 3 pin, very few use PWM), but they will cost more than a new fan.

Voltage fan control is also somewhat problematic because you need a certain minimum voltage to get them started.
Making it hard to run them at very low speeds.
PWM is much better at this.

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What should I upgrade first?
(The GPU is the R9 380)

Apparently OCUK had Vegas in stock for an hour before they sold out, at a £100 premium.

Whoa..

>>61903141
It's not "pushing it"
It's far too big.

You will clearly see TN color shift on any 28" screen because the viewing angle between the bottom and top is too big.

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So this is the power.. Of AMD..

8th gen intel CPU good or wait for 9th gen? 10nm a meme?

>>61903141
Alright I found an LG 27" 4K IPS panel that's 370. I also found a 20 euro cheaper 1080 with the only difference being 100 mhz and no flashy autism lights to the more expensive one. I think this would work.

>>61903214
Aren't they skipping 10 nm for 7 nm?

Quick sanity check - what do anons think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGF4bj

I'm a bit uncertain on:

-The case. I wanted a Phanteks Evolv ATX Tempered Glass but turns out they don't fit the Asus Zenith ROG E-ATX. I could change to another x399 mobo (any suggestions?) and go back to the Evolv ATX.
Main concern here is if this case is a bit too cramped/heat dissipation and airflow issues.

-Cooler. I know it works but there's still lingering concerns over the heatsink not actually covering the entire processor. But I don't want to wait too long for everyone to come out with TR4-specific coolers.

-The RAM. Gonna be honest, I'm super confused by how RAM works these days beyond "Ryzen wants 3200." Is there anything else I should be looking for? Am I underpaying/overpaying?

Input appreciated.

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>>61903245
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGF4bj

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>>61903214
>>61903240

From what I understand "10nm" is just re-branded 14nm.

>>61901906
A more reliable type of flash memory.

>>61901436
Dual channel is double the bandwidth

>>61901460
Yes

>>61901906
Pro use MLC, Evo uses TLC.

MLC is a tad faster and more reliable, so think for enterprise or stupid long life.
Both will outlive the usefulness of the drive. 840 pros for example will likely last 10-15 years.

>>61903245
>RGB
Come on

Are there any reasonably priced (~100) cube ATX cases? I don't want GPU sagging and cubes allow me to put mobo laying down. I know there are some cases with vertical mounting but having to get a riser cable increases the already pretty hefty price.

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>buy 1080ti
>dont play games very much
>mostly just use it to run unigine valley to heat my room up

Give the good news /pcbg/ have the prices on lower range cards gone down yet?
Can I actually find a 1060 in stock on this planet?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tvBTyf

I am trying to make a entry level gaming build with a budget of $770. The monitor is killing the limit, but this was the cheapest I could find that can rotate 90 degrees and has minimal lag, I play a lot of shmups, so this feature is desirable. I want to know if there is something there that can be replaced to reduce costs. Logical increments was the main source to build this, btw.

>>61903476
Thermaltake Core V21 (under 50 $ usually)

>>61903199
Depends on the distance I guess. But the point of 4k on less than 32" is to sit close and enjoy the sharpness.

>>61903223
370€? for 27" 4k ips? Man they are droping in price hardcore. Does it have freesync?

>>61903497
Why did I laugh at this dumb unfunny shit?

>>61903836
Forgot to add the power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzBTyf

>>61903150
Ok thanks. Will look into replacing the H55-fan with a 4pin one.

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>>61903894
It does but it's not like I can use it with a 1080

Is there a significant performance difference between a 3GB 1060 and a 6GB 1060 to justify an extra €50?

>>61903995
the 6GB version is miles better
I don't even know why the 3GB version exists, the 1050Ti has 4GB for fuck's sake

I know for a fact I don't need a Threadripper but I want to get one anyway. Help.

>>61904071
Please don't if you don't need it
You can build an entire 1600X system from scratch for less than a Threadripper and the mobo by themselves

Good day mates,

I live in a shithole country where everything is incredibly expensive, I have family in the good old USA.

It's about 1000usd cheaper if I buy my rig there.

What I would like to find out is, is international shipping dangerous for components like GPU/CPU etc?

Thanks in advance.

If I want to have some other programs open on another monitor while playing games, is a multi-threaded CPU enough or do I need more physical cores?

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This was genuinely one of those little and unexpected victories that help to keep you going when times get exceptionally shitty.

Takes a lot of stress off of my. And now I can focus those limited funds elsewhere.

Should I get the Asus prime b350-plus for use with and overclocked ryzen r3 and later on a ryzen 2 and is asus reliable for bios updates and support?

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>>61904153
Off of my mind, rather.

Just need a good case to go on sale so I don't have to settle with a clunker to make this rebuild go forward.

Replaced a router, monitors, and now just the PSU and case are left for basic functionality. RAM and video card soon to follow.

>>61904118
you'll probably pay that additional $1000 anyway.

How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rJtGf

I'm kinda clueless about what board and case I should go with and I'm not too sure I really need the M.2 SSD.

>>61904101
but i want it reeeeee

Does the 1050 really beat the 560?

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> 770 died
> 1060 400shekel
> 1070 490shekel
> 1080 580shekel

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

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>>61900916

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1332122-REG/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_aero.html
vs
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274810-REG/msi_gtx_1060_6gt_oc_geforce_gtx_1060_6gb.html

Will there be any difference in performance between these?

>>61904448
More cooling = better

Which brand of vega 56 should i aim for?

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>Finally crumble to shitty 1070 prices and buy a 1080
>Find this the next day
>Too late to cancel order
Fuck this.

>>61904558
OEM? All the same. AIB probably sapphire.

>>61904562
>ZOTAC

>>61904600
Is Zotac bad? There's have cheap 1060 going by them atm and everything else costs a ton more. Tempted.

>>61904600
>£50 cheaper than next cheapest 1070
The reviews for it aren't bad either.

>>61904600
>>61904655
>>61904730
Had a ZOTAC GTX260, which worked as intended
That was a looooooong time ago though

I just bought a 1440p 144hz AS monitor

How the fuck am I going to make use of it for cheap now that Vega sucks

>>61904892
>buying into the 144Hz meme

Opinions on the Rx 580 4GB? can it run most modern things at 60+?

Currently after a GTX 1060 6GB and the prices are fucking awful and there's no stock anywhere.
My PC died, so I'm currently using a trash laptop until I can build my new one, which I'd like to not have to wait around for.

There's a sale on at overclockersUK and there is
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-mini-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-106-zt.html

And

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1060-compact-x1-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-06b-in.html

I've never heard of the second one, but it's cheaper than most. Any thoughts? Appreciate any help.

>>61904957
How fucking hard is it to just look up benchmarks holy shit

>>61904957
I have one in my Ryzen system, runs almost everything 60+ fps. NBA2k17 maxed well over 60fps.

Hey guys, how does this build look? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xBLwsJ

>>61905047
Give it back Jamal

>>61905234
Kek

>>61904448
The second option has more fans, meaning you can put it under heavier loads without instability.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZ2bM8 waiting for aftermarket vega I think I might go with sapphire. Want to play Destiny 2, how's it look.

>barely stronger than a 1070
>consumes a shitload more power
>b-b-but we're only a year later and it's CHEAPER

AMD is pathetic.

>>61904892
1080 Ti.

>card comes out that will pull miners off the affordable gaming cards
>people complain it's not better than every other card that will ever be made

waaw

>>61905496
God I hope prices drop soon.

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sys/6245507086.html
yes or no?

Glad they aren't selling reference 56's

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>>61905519
At the very least some 1060s came into stock where I live.

Still a bit expensive at €320 but fuck it I want to play video games released after 2010.

Speaking of, how long will this build last me for?
Reusing old PSU and SSD.

when will the vegas be back in stock at an uncucked price?

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any reason to upgrade from a meme 970 to a 1070 or rx 56? im playing on 1080p

>>61905696
If you're happy with the way your current build runs games, there is no reason to switch.
At least not until the prices go down a bit.

>>61904780
>>61904600
So are you saying Zotac is shit or what? They don't seem more prone to failure compared to other brands.

>>61905696
Im probably getting a vega 56 for future proofing for 1080p, im just hoping i can get a good brand one when they release

>>61905681
I'm just hoping the 1080 drops back down.

You might wanna get 16 gigs of RAM just to be sure. My GTX 760 with 4GBs lasted me 4 years and it's just now starting to show its age. The 1060 should last about the same.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTFKr7
$750 hard limit, need everything.

Should I wait for rx560 4gb?

>>61905785
They're meming, Zotac is great

>>61905806
What're you planning on doing with that build anon?

>>61905803
The reason I grabbed the 1 stick of 8 was so I could stick another one in there in a couple months.

Thanks mane.

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>>61900942
>>61901280
Manage to OC at 3.5ghz without touching the voltage, bretty gud.
Tried AIda64 for almost an hour without any crash.
Gonna stay like this until Ryzen refresh came out and changed into an R5+ or R7+

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:^)

tfw bought into the CX550M PSU meme and after the rebate's been approved it rears its ugly head with intermittent fan noise even at or more so when returning to idle

Considering replacing this, what should I actually be looking for and at what price range?

Purchased and built: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kZjNCy (HDDs are just stand-ins from salvage)

>>61904958
Anyone?

>>61906178
Also according to newegg reviews it seems mostly problematic when pointed down (which it is on the S340, but with an air filter).

>>61905806
Could buy a cheaper monitor and get a gtx 1050Ti

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>Just keep refreshing, bro!

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so Volta in November right?

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>>61899997
>cucked by the ultimate cuckold

anyone know a good monitor mount for dual monitors, maybe three?

>>61899997
Good get a 1070 or 1080
Vega gets super hot and needs a lot of power

>>61906406
nope.

Having a freesync monitor is basically useless if you're using nvidia right?

does frontier edition vega have sr-iov?

>>61906406
No. Mr. Leather Jacket confirmed there are no new cards coming this year. No need for them to go full retard like Intel as Vega isn't a threat to them.

>>61906448
>Buying into the dual monitor meme is see

>>61899791
>hot garbage
"Flaming garbage"

>>61902929
You're talking about the Baikal Giant that only gets 2GH/s? It's around 200 a week and soon we're expecting some 15 and 30GH/s miners to launch which will cause the difficult to climb dramatically making any current ASICs almost worthless.

Ryzen 1600 + GTX1060 6GB or i5 7600k + GTX1060 6GB [spoiler]or wait for 570/580 8 GB to drop in price[/spoiler]?

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this is my setup

i have one fan in the front blowing into the computer, one fan in the back blowing out of the computer, and one fan on top of the radiator (top) blowing upwards

should i change anything? i was thinking the top fan (radiator fan) might be better off blowing down instead of sucking, would that be better?

i dont really have any problems with heat but i was planning on cleaning the radiator today so i figured i would change it while its off

>>61906614
i dont get it you want the fan to blow hot air from the radiator into the case?

>>61906636
no the fan is mounted on top of the radiator, so it would blow cold air from outside the case through the radiator if i flipped it maybe?

>>61906579
>Baikal Giant
Nope, I was talking about the antminer D3. Hard to get, but seems to be worth it.

Im capital bound, but i would get it in a heartbeat

>>61903201
Why the fuck is it gobbling so much power? It's about 25% faster than fury x and almost just as power hungry. After a fucking node shrink. How does that even happen? Did AMD put some secret bitcoin miner into or something?

>>61906695
Ah, yes those are almost impossible to get. There will be a 30GH/s one available very soon though. I should be able to procure one of those but I was too late on the D3.

>>61906614
You should get another intake fan at the front

Can I use a motherboard from a prebuilt PC? Buying it used at an amazing price.

>>61906178
we tried to warn you, brah
EVGA or SeaSonic, everything else is a crapshoot

>>61906891
If the socket works with your CPU and supports your RAM, yes

>>61906927
Thanks

>Upgrading from AMD FX-6300
Looking at R5 1600, GA-AB350-Gaming 3 Mobo. Do I need 16GB of RAM? The prices seem very high compared to a year ago. Should I get one stick of 8 now and a second one later, or 2x4GB sticks? I can't swing 16 right now

>>61906942
Get 1x8, if you feel like you need it, get more later.

linus is that you?

>>61906942
>Do I need 16GB of RAM?
Do you? What do you plan to do with the build and does it require 16GB?

>>61906942
Get 16GB off at least 3000mhz. Make sure the RAM is supported by current BIOS. Also that MOBO was DOA for me, get the Tomahawk or MSI carbon pro.

>>61906942
don't skimp on the RAM
get 2x8GB, at least 2667

>>61906924
For PSUs?
What about Corsair?

Is Ryzen certified RAM still worth it after bios patches?

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>>61906614
>>61906655

jebus my poor radiator

its only been like 4 months, but my cats do like sitting on top of it

>>61907017
it's gotten better, but you're still best sticking to the QVL

should i get a vega frontier edition for linux/windows vm gaming or an rx vega?

Will this be able to power a 1070 along with a ryzen 1600?
http://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Nox/Nox_Urano_600W/822

I saw some posts about this specific psu not working with some R9s due to insufficient current.

>>61906973
No reason to get 2x4 over 1x8?

>>61906991
>Recommending MSI
Only the Carbon Pro has the optical audio port I require and it's nearly double though I guess I get the $30 off at microcenter, the tomahawk doesn't have it at all. I'm using a Gigabyte now and never had issues for 3 years.

If I go with the Carbon pro I definitely can't get 16GB. I would be able to if I got the other one

>>61904958
Does anybody know? Are cheap GPUs any worse really?

>>61907092
I guess if you have 4 ram slots and aren't planning on going past 16GB 2x4 might be marginally better.

>>61906608
GPU priced for 570/580 won't drop for a while because Bitcoin is rising, go for the Ryzen 1600 and GTX 1060.

Is it necessary to upfrade from a phenom 4x 3.4 ghz cpu for some light faggotry gaming

>>61907159
Depends on your GPU, but
I've got the X4 965 (which I'm pretty sure you also have) OC'd to 3.8GHz paired with a GTX 660, and I'm looking to jump to Ryzen before the end of the year

>>61907159
What are you playing and how do you currently fare? What do you want to see from your games?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RMtKr7
Thoughts?
>Reusing my Corsair 600W PSU
>Usual games are iRacing, Assetto Corsa, PUBG, ArmA 3, etc
>Want to stay under 1k

>>61906942
One last question. Do I need to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 to get updates, really?

>>61907214
yes

1060 for €320 or 1070 for €470? Is it worth considering a mini ITX 1070 for €420?

>>61907212
If you are overclocking the 1600, get faster ram (preferably 3200mhz and CL14). Games and applications will run much faster.

>>61907265
You wouldn't recommend the patch that was out there a few months ago?

>>61907212
>2133 RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMWBVY

>>61907200
>>61907201
Just bought a 1060 with 6gb vram

Generally some "modern" games nothing too crazy
Project cars
Battlefield 4
Gta 4 yes the old one
And what not

Just curious

>>61899997
>decided to click on linus cuck
if you give any shit about this retard you deserve everything bad happen to you

>>61907092
You don't plan to overclock?

>>61907092
>only the Carbon Pro
Yes, the one I recommended.

>>61907322
Paired with that GPU, I'd say jump to Ryzen now with a 1300X, and you can squeeze in another update on the AM4 socket in 2-3 years before it gives way to whatever's next

>>61907340
Not really. I've never been interested all that much. I'm just really feeling the age of my FX6300

>>61907361
Yeah but the gigabyte also has that port

>>61906139
>could get a 1080ti for 80$~ more buys this poo in loo shit card

T O P K E K
O
P

K
E
K

>>61907376
I'm just saying the gigabyte is pretty shit. If it works for you it's fine.

>>61907015
Corsair is a shittier meme brand, that only got big by shilling the fuck out of the RGB meme that the little kids gooble like hotcake

>>61907394
If the Carbon Pro is in stock when I go I'll consider it. Right now my microcenter only has like 8 openbox ones. I know its anecdotal but the only mobo brand I've seen fail among friends is MSI

So, what's the chance of getting a vega 56? Is the 64 supposedly good for mining?

>>61907371
Fair enough
Thanks

>>61907379
I can't scalp a 1080 Ti to miners.

FUCKING REEEE

VEGA SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE INSTANTLY

>>61907394
How is the ASUS PRIME X370-PRO?

>>61906942
Get B-die memory, 3200mhz CL14
https://twitter.com/TechDeals_16/status/896972572197363716

and of course get 16GBs, but you'll want a Gigabyte K3, or Prime Plus or ASrock B350 board for budget boards

Is there any point in getting a 1070 if I'm not gonna upgrade from a 1080p60hz monitor any time soon?

>>61907505
That I don't know. I only know that the Carbon Pro and Tomahawk are the best B350 boards.

>>61907015

one of their lines is rebranded seasonic

i'd avoid the rest though

>>61907521
>$200 on fucking RAM
I can't do it man, that's as much as the processor

Is there a non shitty armrest I can buy and clamp on my desk? Don't know where else to ask.

>>61907553
You're going to have the RAM forever, it's easily worth investing in when it's important for Ryzen. Slightly cheaper kit here that should still be B-die, but may not load up automatically through XMP

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/McH48d/gskill-trident-z-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr3-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gtzkw

>>61907613

whats b-die?

What are the best Ryzen mATX boards?

>>61907613
>You're going to have the RAM forever
That's what they said about DDR3. Is the difference between 2400 and 3200 that big? I never paid much attention to RAM speeds

>>61907633
Samsuing B-die, the only RAM Ryzen truly loves

>>61907642
Ryzen is helped greatly by faster RAM, it gets the most out of it, and by the time Ryzen Revision 3 rolls around it should be even more useful once Ryzen is nearing 5ghz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA

>>61907505
I was just looking at that one myself
Frightfully high 1-star/egg review percentages, both on Newegg and Amazon

>>61907722
Yeah, going to avoid that one I think.

>>61907642
>DDR3
DDR3 lasted us from like 2008-9 to Skylake's release, that's a pretty good run, AM4 is supposed to be supported until 2020 with new products, and you'll have DDR4 all the way through

>>61907699

any easy way to tell what kits are b-die?

>>61907745
http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread

>>61899377
I bought 16 GB of ddr2 ecc memory for that was supposed to be compatible with the board I have (TYAN S3992) how ever it doesn't fit in the ram slot. What should I buy that will be compatible?

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Will overheating really be a big issue if the M.2 slot sits under a dual-width vidya?

>>61907755

thx senpai

>>61907779

its more risky to have it directly above the gpu

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is it safe to buy a windows 10 activation key from eBay ?

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>>61907851

>>61907699
Can I get away with 2666? I'm not doing 1440p or 4K gaming or anything, just 1080. This is the first I've read about Samsung b-die stuff, I was told it mattered more to have more RAM than the speed of the RAM

>>61907879
yes or no?

>>61907901
1080p requires the most CPU horsepower, you "use less" CPU going to 1440p/4k. If you're doing 60hz gaming it doesn't matter but for 144hz you need all the single threaded performance you can get.

having more RAM doesn't do anything past 16GBs for gaming, it's the speed/latency.

>>61908002
Yeah 60hz here

>>61907901
2666 is probably the lowest I would recommend to anyone doing a build right now
This particular model is listed on the QVL, so it should work straight away without issues

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233834

>£200 570 4GB (pre-order)
>£230 1060 6GB
Which should I get?
I have a 1050 ti right now but wanted to upgrade for Destiny 2.

>>61908022
You still get benefits even at 60hz from higher 1%/.1% frame rates. If you can fit it into the budget B-die is worth it, otherwise 2400mhz 16GB "Ryzen Optimized" Kits from G.Skill should be fine

>>61908040
Don't bother making such a small jump, save up for MSRP 1070s or Vega 56 preferably.

Also wait for Bencmarks.

>>61908024
>>61908047
Alright, thanks for the assistance.

>>61908040
>>£230 1060 6GB
Where lad?

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>>61908047
I have no idea what I'm doing. Tell me everything that's wrong with this

>>61908103
Everything is wrong with it, what is the build even for and why doesn't it have a GPU?

>>61908078
Maybe I was being a little hasty, At the very least I'll wait for the beta and see how it performs on my 1050 ti.
If I get 60 fps on mid-high I'll be fine, I was thinking about grabbing it as a treat to myself for landing a job.

>>61908102
Overclockers, Inno3D.
At the risk of sounding like a shrill here: With shipping you're looking at another £15 and if you order in the next 6~ hours you'll get it on Wednesday.

It's currently sitting in my cart while I try to avoid pulling the trigger.

>>61908142
It's not worth it, at 1080p your 1050ti should be just fine

>>61908040
it's such a small jump, comparatively speaking, don't bother
save your money and wait for Volta

>>61908120
Tell me what is wrong, and I'll tell you why it doesn't have a GPU.

>>61908142

Inno3D card any good? Does it matter? Just never heard of them. May go for the same.

>>61908164
>Inno3D
literally who?

>>61908158
You didn't post what the PC was for

>>61908201
Well you made your judgment without that. But here, let me be courteous:

Ideally I'd want to run GTA 5+ on that too-big-of-a-monitor at native resolution.
But mainly, it's for development (has to run the Android emulator, maybe alongside Atom, browsers, etc).

>>61908155
>>61908156
I'll try to hold out for a little longer thanks for the advice guys.

>>61908103
>i7
>SEVEN DOLLAR COOLER
>ITX on a budget
>16GB of RAM on a budget
>128GB SSD as sole storage
>1440p monitor on a budget but I assume you already own it
What the actual fuck.

>>61908179
I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

>>61908279
>implying you're implying something other than that your daddy's rich

>>61908265
Then it should be a Ryzen 5 1600, RX 560 until higher end GPU prices go down, though likely with the Elite 110 you'll upgrade to a Vega Nano
Which is why I'm including a 4k 28" TN Free-sync display

Honestly 1440p 27" is dead with that thing existing, though 1440p can do IPS

OBVIOUSLY, you run the game at 1080p and not 4k, until you upgrade the GPU, but then you have a 4k ready display

Also a 1050ti isn't going to do 1440p, best bet is 1080p, with a 4k workspace.

May want an SFX PSU for the limited space in the 110

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sTdrFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sTdrFd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1030.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-14 19:34 EDT-0400