/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Choose One Edition

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First For Glorious Team Rocket Vega Build

why is memory so expensive?
what is that shit made out of?

>>61891168
gold, oil, and diamonds

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What are the limitations of using an eGPU from a PCI-express slot? I want to build a full computer eventually, but I'd be more than fine with an eGPU setup for the time being.

>>61891039
ugly gpu to go with that ugly face, i guess

>>61891168
nand shortage and price fixing. i doubt it'll ever come down again at this point.

>>61891200
she's at least 7.5/10

>>61891230
more like 4.5/10

>>61891267
>t. gay

>>61891267
She's p average, then again she's using a MySpace angle so can't really tell if she's actually attractive

>>61891200
>>61891230
>>61891267
>>61891285
quit talking about my wife assh*les

>>61891179
Limited bandwidth so you won't get the full performance of the card but it's still miles better than the integrated graphics. I've ordered a RX560 to use with my Thinkpad X230 to hold me over until I can build a desktop with at least a R5 1600

>>61891039
>/pcbg/ - Insignificant Titties Edition

Looking to create a gaming-HTPC--should I throw my GTX 1070 with a 1600X or a 6700? Both are available at no cost.

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>Need $250 to finish the build
>brakes wore out on mom's car and took my money
Someone hold me.

>>61891039
Is that a 290?

>>61891448
quick question. Why are you paying for your mother's car? I mean I get helping out family, but how does you mother not have enough set aside to take care of the basic necessities of owning a car? And who/what the hell did you buy for $250? Even if you needed new rotors, it's like $100 at the most for Autozone tier shit.

>>61891507
Well she paid it but my job helps pay rent, we ride a thin line, hence why I go forever between rigs. All I need is the 8350 itself and my 16GB 1866 kit and I'll be good to roll.

>>61891507
Oh the costs of the brakes... we went to the local shop and it cost a lot, too pussy to fuck with that car shit.

>>61891338
women with smaller breasts are less likely to cheat on you

>>61891574
LMAO

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqKpcc

I have everything purchased except the SSD, but I am still waiting on the CPU and Mobo to be shipped so I'm holding off on the purchase/looking for a good deal.

My only problem with my build is the GPU. I traded a PS4 for the 970, which I know will do me well enough using the monitor I got but I also wanted to get into VR sooner or later. Would it be smarter to leave the 970 for now, and wait for 1100 series cards so the 1000 series prices go down?

Or maybe even see how the new Vega is and switch to that? I also see the option to get a 1080 for $450 not far from me, if he still has it in a few days I might just get that.

What would /g/ do?

>A: Leave the 970
>B: Sell the 970 now for a cheap 1070 or 1080
>C: Get new Vega
>D: ???

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>vega sold out before it's even released

>>61891039
Here's where I'm at
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VXH3TH
Main use I want out of it is to play vidya games at a smooth 60+ at 1080 for the forseeable future, and maybe upgrade to a dual monitor setup a little down the line. I feel like there's a lot of money going into this that doesn't need to be, but I don't know what should get cut back.

>>61891549
>>61891573
you should look into some YouTube videos of doing that stuff yourself. Autozone even rents out tools if you don't have them. Stuff like brake changes, oil changes, adding fluid, plugging tires, etc should all be stuff you try and take care of yourself. Especially in your position when you riding a thin monetary line. Save yourself a lot of money.

What motherboard do you have already?

>>61891338

They try harder. Usually a better lay.

>>61891579
I dunno smaller breasts = not seen as attractive by most = less chance to get hit on

I kinda believe it

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>>61891620
990FXA GAMING from MSI, originally wanted the 990FXA-UD3 because it's plain jane and yet has muh power phases, and more full length pcie, the prices are now rediculous. but this will do for $100.

That should be my life :(

I am going to buy a 1060 because I need a new GPU asap and can't afford, for now, a complete upgrade to my PC.
My specs are the following:
CPU: AMD FX-8350
Motherboard: 990FXA-UD3
RAM: G.SKill Ripjaws X 16GB
Which 1060 variant should I get?

>>61891574
source

>>61891673
I have an FX-9370 that used to be main chip until I upgraded to an R7-1700X. If we could come up with some way of shipping it to you I'd just give it to you.

>>61891714
Oh that's cool man, if I had that chip I'd end up downclocking it to 4.4 and running closer to FX8000 vcore because I'm on a Cooler Master Hyper TX3.

>>61891605
>PS4 for the 970
sounds like a really shit trade, I bet you could've just sold for more and then buy 970.

>>61891298
Post more pictures of ur wife

>>61891756
Yeah I thought that after. I started with the GPU a few weeks ago, and card prices were still kinda high thanks to miners so I thought it was a fair enough price. I had the system listed for a week or so and no offers higher than $150 though, so I just got tired of waiting.

>>61891605
just buy a new gpu once you actually have a VR headset.
>1080 for $450
pretty good deal desu

>>61891615
get dual channel ram, 2x4gb @ 3000mhz or more
>I feel like there's a lot of money going into this that doesn't need to be
you can do
>r5 1600
>drop the cooler
>b350 mobo
for basically no performance drop whatsoever. you can easily OC 1600 to 1600x levels on a stock cooler. also IMO that case is too expensive

>>61891689
cheapest one that's:
>not single slot (unless you fell for the mITX meme)
>not blower type
>has 2 fans
i think ASUS DUAL might be good

>>61891712
common sense, duh

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>>61891299
I've also got a thinkpad I plan on using. I was under the impression that Nvidia cards were better than AMD cards for eGPU setups? Also do you use your X230s internal monitor or do you have an external one?

Did you use a guide you could shoot my way?

>>61891039
Is G-Sync something that is necessary or highly recommended for gaming? I am not sure if I should go for a 1440p60hz monitor without gsync or go for a 1440p144hz monitor for like $400 more.

I will be using a GTX 1070.

>>61891933
I'd get the 60fps 1440 and save money, that's just an insane difference.

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>>61891230
You can see her cheekbones, which makes her look 40 years old. Pic related is different example, but shows comparison of cheekbones.

Any reason to think RAM prices will come down in the foreseeable future?

>>61891933
If you had a 1080 or 1080ti I'd say get the 144 hz monitor
>>61891952
The other monitor is more than double the hz and has gsync. Price difference somewhat justified

bought a shite case and a fx8320 off of my little brother was wondering what I should add to the build. Trying to make a matx am3+ build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZh3TH

>>61891952
>>61892025
I'm just concerned with smoothness of gameplay. I want to move from console to PC gaming and I keep hearing all this about screen tearing being a problem, which I definitely want to avoid to have the best experience.

I play mostly shooter games with a healthy amount of RPGs mixed in.

>>61892059
Just put that triple buffered shit vsync on or whatever it's called, 60fps gaming isn't poverty or anything.

>>61891835
>i think ASUS DUAL might be good
The cheapest one I found is a MSI Armor and ASUS Expedition. Which one do you recommend?

>>61892059
>screen tearing being a problem
The biggest meme, never had this in over 15 years of gaming on pc

>>61892090
what exactly does vsync do? i think I have an idea but not totally clear.

>>61892099
thought i was getting memed, thanks

>>61892059
High framerate is nice, and gsync eliminates screen tearing without strain on your gpu. Vsync does stress your gpu and I'm not sure how flexible it is in response to variable framerates compared to gsync. Your 1070 should be able to push most games beyond 60fps making vsync a viable option for you, however I'd make the investment in the nice monitor if I were you. 144hz is a big difference compared to 60hz. If 60hz is good enough for you well then there you go

>>61892134
It just locks the game to 60 fps so you don't get frame tearing

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Cleaning out the grandparents' basement, I want to use this case for a budget rig cuz I think it's neat. Should I expect problems mounting a modern motherboard inside a case from 95/96?

>>61892153
thing is I don't know if 144 or 60hz is better for me. I kind of want to get the 144hz monitor just because i won't have to upgrade for a while. then in 2-3 years I can upgrade my graphics card.

>>61892099
screen tearing happens when your framerate isn't double or half the monitor's refresh rate. screen tearing shouldn't be a problem if vsync is enabled, however vsync requires gpu overhead. gsync and freesync free up gpu overhead while eliminating screen tearing, allowing you to enjoy higher framerates without screen tearing. nice things cost money, however

>>61892168
oh that sounds useful, thanks

>>61891605
Depends on what you want to do with it, but if it's for gaming, everything but a 1080 will be a bottleneck for the rest of your build.

>>61891888
From what I'm understanding you need to use Nvidia if you want to use the internal screen on the laptop but running on the internal screen causes huge losses in performance, and Nvidia 10 series GPUs are running into problems when you're using the Expresscard method.

https://egpu.io/forums/expresscard-mpcie-m-2-adapters/nvidia-is-killing-off-mpciengff-m2-egpus-error-43-with-372-90/

If you're using an AMD GPU it should be relatively plug and play, I have an external monitor but I haven't got my stuff yet so I don't know if it'll work or not.

>>61891953
Who's the chick/guy on the left ?

>>61892192
Gaming/streaming. I've got some friends that dick around on Twitch so likely I will be joining them on that/youtube. No, I don't expect to be an e-celeb, it's just for fun.

>>61892187
>screen tearing happens when your framerate isn't double or half the monitor's refresh rate.
>60hz monitor
>cs:go fluctuates between 200-300fps
>no screen tearing
I'm still convinced it's a meme.

>>61892180
I'd say get the nicer monitor so that way you won't be thinking "damn, I'm maxing out at 60fps and could be going higher if I got the better monitor." But I'm not you: maybe you don't care. I dropped $1400 on a predator x34 and love it. If I didn't get this I would have done 1440p 144hz gsync

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what would a god computer that can emulate and virtualize every desktop and mobile os simultaneously with full functionality as well as serve as a media/file server look like?

>>61891933
it's a nice thing to save, but not necessary. also your gpu isn't good enough for 1440p144hz.

>>61891953
>comparing to asian women
now that's just cheating.

>>61892053
buy used ddr3 ram.
don't get a hybrid hdd, they are a meme.

>>61892096
just get the cheaper one

>>61892221
is it possible you can't tell? I couldn't tell before I upgraded my monitor, but I was also using vsync. I looked up videos about screen tearing and went with a gsync monitor after learning it would free up gpu overhead

>>61892247
>just get the cheaper one
Both are the same price, but I will go with the Armor one since it's 1x 8 power connector.

>>61892230
Threadrippah.

>>61892247
okay
would you recommend a 7200 rpm hdd?

Z270 a pro good MB for i5 6600k, vega 56, and 16gb ram?

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Never built a PC before, suggestions? Also will I need additional fans for this case since it doesn't come with any? If so I'll go for the Define Mini-C instead. Or should I go with another form factor?

I left out the storage because I already have that

>>61892303
I would because they're huge, cheap, single platter 1TB drives are fast, they just don't boot fast.

>>61892257
Well if I can't tell then as far as I'm concerned it's still a meme. Also I'm pretty sure every pro player plays on uncapped frame rate to get the least delay.

Is this card ok?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1060-compact-x1-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-06b-in.html

Never heard of Inno3D
Either that or go for Zotac at £250. Can't find any in stock elsewhere.

>>61892322
2x4 ram is better than 1x8 also ryzen benefits a lot from higher frequency rams you want something at least 3000mhz.
I would never go for 580 4gb, 1060 6gb is just much cheaper. At least where I live might be different for you. You could get better psu as well. Otherwise looks ok.

>>61892389
that still doesn't mean screen tearing is good. just because you don't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. neither gsync nor freesync introduce delay. vsync does, however
>>61892458
imo go with msi or evga. neither of their gpus have given me any problems

>>61892514
I'll look, but hard to find stock and the prices are dumb.

>>61891433
Consider thermals if you get a compact HTPC case.

>>61892200
Shit, I meant on the right.

>>61891298
>Posts wife
> Q-quit talking about the thing i put out in the public.

>>61892321
You can get the Z170 chipset. No need to spend extra for the Z270.

>>61892597
Z170 sucks

>>61892658
The only difference between the two is that Z270 comes with chipset support for kaby lake out of the box and Z170 doesn't.

>>61892674
Oh okay. Do you reccomend any other motherboards

>>61892685
For a 6600k you need a Z170 otherwise you won't be able to overclock your processor.

>>61892705
Z170 are more expensive

>>61892785
Than Z270? Huh. Get the Z270 then. PCP shows the Z170 as cheaper.

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Could someone recommend a good lga1151 board?

>>61892815
MSI SLI Plus

For 3D modeling and game development:

I want to buy a GPU so that I can delve further into these topics, with worthy resources to do so. I am on a budget though, and I can't buy a superb GPU.

I have in mind the GTX 1050 ti and the GTX 1060.

My main focus is game DEVELOPMENT and 3D rendering. I may play games, but it is not the focus here.

So, should I get a workstation card?

Also, since I don't plan on paying for 3D software any time soon, and will be using Blender, should I get a workstation card?

I can buy the GTX 1050 ti right now, but I was thinking about waiting to buy a better card, since I'm not in a hurry to start this endeavor.

Also, I've searched about it and people have said things aboutu the GTX 960. Is it worth it?

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Rate my shill build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNRvJV

>>61892871
3D rendering requires a workstation card unless you are okay with it taking a long ass time.

>>61892918
>Only one 1080 Ti
>Not even a titanium PSU

You should be ashamed of yourself.

>>61892871
Try buying a card second hand maybe? Like a GTX 980. A 1060 has similar performance and price to a 980, but a 980 has wayy more CUDA cores which might make it better in rendering and other CUDA enabled tasks.

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>>61891607
Hey that's The Guy from Disturbed.

>>61892918
Get RGB memory if you're going full meme.

>>61892962
I don't think two of those will fit with the PCIe storage
Also I don't need that much power.

>>61892975
But I did.

Friendly reminder that even the 1600 really is overkilll for 60hz gaming at any resolution and dropping down to a lower tier chip is a good place to save some money.
I think I would probably go with a r3 if I just wanted 60hz, maybe even the bentium.

whats the cheapest graphics card i could get that could run fo4 on medium graphics

i have 14g ram and an intel core i5 2500k

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If my desired cases don't go on sale, I may just buy the cheapest option available. I need a case to rehouse this fucker. I need a case to go with the PSU I need to buy.

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>>61892871
>>61892964
*similar gaming performance
Nevermind it seems the 1060 has better rendering performance in Blender.
http://blenchmark.com/gpu-benchmarks

>>61893048
R9 270x
GTX960
Pic is of the R9

>>61893083
i suspect benis

If I get a GXT 1080 Ti (thinking the EVGA FTW3 version) will I be fine in 4K or should I stick to 1440p?

Also, if I do go with 1440, would framerates be bottlenecked by my processor (i5-4670)?

>>61891039
Nice tits.

this chick is very, very sexy.

you can tell she knows how to work it in the bedroom

her facial expression says, "I could make you cum in 5 seconds"

and you know what honey? you're welcome to anytime. mmm mmmmmm tasty

>>61893198
this guy knows what's up

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>>61893153
>i suspect benis
https://www.google.com/search?q=Manon+Verg%C3%A9&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwvNSP0NXVAhXHRCYKHTEyBxsQ_AUICigB&biw=1267&bih=903

>>61893163
It really depends on what games you play. In games that rely more on the CPU, you will certainty run into a CPU bottleneck, but you will be able to reach 60fps just fine.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2773-intel-i5-2500k-revisit-benchmark-for-2017/page-3

>>61892168
but it causes input lag on source engine games ie csgo, tf2

what's the smallest case I can get that will fit 2 3.5'' HDD and 1 pci x4 slot? That's all I need.

Ok bros I just got my new GPU, what games should I play?

Is there any thing I should change or specific brands to avoid? I will also be re-using my storage drive, optical drive, case, and fans. OS might also be re-used depending on how hard is it to actually install Windows 7

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6jQyCy

>>61893227
>she will never pin you down and vigorously extract your seed while telling you how worthless your flabby body is

Why the fuck am I even alive.

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>>61893512
Dunno, m8.

Currently just hoping my monitor order goes through.

Vega benchmarks when?

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Reminder to never buy Corsair cases cause they are fucking shit.

>>61893767
>Ever getting a case with glass side panel

lmao

>>61893812
I have never seen a phanteks case with a glass side panel explode on anyone yet.

>>61893767
>corsair
>glass panel
>XFX
>>61893822
>buying any case with a full glass panel
kiddie pls go

>>61893767
>>61893812
D-Does it really happen that often? My new case with glass comes in this week.

>>61893834
I like a full glass panel so I can look at it and judge when it is time to clean my case. But retards like you are going to scream and cry like the shitter you are because you can't afford that 5 dollars more for a nicer case. Sad.

>>61893836
Is it corsair?

>tfw going to college
>deliver pizzas for a living
>can't really afford anything
>have $1000 credit card
>thinking of getting an Xbox One

I really want a good PC but I know I realistically can't afford it, unless I spent months gathering the parts. Is that a good enough excuse to just get a console?

>>61893896
anidees ai-crystal

>>61893937
>Xbone
Yeah. Just get that. Seems like you have shit taste in consoles as well.

>>61893937
Get the PC, a nice ATX case and big psu is really future proof when your stuff gets old.

>>61893942
Should be fine. I have never come across shattered TG cases outside of corsair on the internet.

>>61893494
I would drop the SSD to 250 and get ryzen 1600 instead, good boost.

If you're not into serious gaming that GPU is just fine. There are forums talking about the Win7 deal, it's supposed to be a realistic possibility, but I don't see why not Win 10? You can remove pretty much all the botnet from it. That's what i did and haven't had any problems so far

>>61893836
That's what tempered glass does when it gets damaged. It's why I think it's fucking retarded to use in cases. If it gets knicked or smacked, it explodes into component-ruining shards.

>>61893957
I understand that, it's just I have no feasible way of saving up for a gaming PC that won't take months.

Two weeks ago i knew jack shit about computer parts and building computers, to the point that i couldn't tell you the difference between an i5 and an i7.
In that time i've been stuffing my head as with as much information as possible, and this is what i've arrived at.

This is supposed to be a high end gayman/streaman rig, a dream build of sorts. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WF2kM8
Please laugh at me, tell me how wrong i am and why. I need more info to go off of while researching this shit, so i can get better at it and improve the build.

i7-7700k 4.2ghz quad-core
>games don't care about more cores, four cores clocked at higher speeds are better for games, but reduce your ability to multitask! The "k" on the end means you can overclock it!

H100i AIO liquid cooler
>Water cooling is a fair bit better than air cooling! Some air coolers can compete to a degree, but they're huge and bulky. Custom watercooling is a pain in the ass, and to get something better than an AIO can be expensive.

4 x 8GB DDR4-3200Mhz
>Ram speed does matter, at least a little! Past 3200mhz there isn't a whole lot of improvement, and faster ram is expensive, so that's the sweet spot.

960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 SSD
>Sata SSDs are bottlenecked, M.2 is popular enough now that it's fairly cheap! It's better to buy two at half the size and put them in raid 0 for maximum speed, especially in write. OS and commonly played games go on here!

FireCuda 2TB SSHD
>Hybrid drives don't have as much storage as a pure HDD, but they have a really nice speed boost once you've used them a bit, and they're pretty cheap! Two of them are placed in raid 1 in case one fails, so i don't just lose everything.

1x Acer Predator 34' 1440p 100hz, 2x LG 29' 2560x1080
>More frames don't matter much if you can't actually see them, so you need a higher refresh rate on your main monitor! High resolutions are also important, but it's hard to get both. One LG monitor is for web browsing, the other is sideways for reading text!

>>61893988
I mean, fuck. Acrylic may be cheap, but it's sturdy and easily replaced. I prefer solid metal all around. Thick panels of steel. Full protection. Even if it gets dented or scratched, you can play that off as war wounds and a good case can look weathered.

>>61893988
It must be smacked and knicked against the edges for it to explode. You know your car windows are made of tempered glass as well right? Most of the time exploding tempered glass happens because of poor QC where the tempered glass was shoddy made cause spontaneous glass breakage

>>61894001
I feel you, I've saved up for a while on mine, depends on how into PCs you are, a console is best if you just want to play and you dont give a shit about this overclocking nonsense.

will vega be available online at midnight?

>>61894012
>You know your car windows are made of tempered glass as well right?
Car windows have to be transparent, though. It's the least damaging option considering the alternative leaves the glass in big jagged stabby pieces.

>>61894003
RAM speed really doesn't matter in intel. You are going to see at most 1-2 FPS gain in scenarios you will never hope to approach anyway.

>>61894037
3600 CL14 is best for all Intel platforms.
You're not going to be any better bandwidth over 2666 but the latency is noticeably better.
If you want to pay that much though, anything 2666 will work just dandy.

>>61893882
>glass
>nicer
kiddie just stop

>>61894028
>It's the least damaging option considering the alternative leaves the glass in big jagged stabby pieces.

But that is wrong. Car windshields use laminated glass that sticks to plastic when shattered so it doesn't spray across your face in car crash.

Anyway, TG is used because it is the glass that breaks the safest and is strong enough that it doesn't shatter to random knocks and nicks if it is well made. How many cases of car side windows shattering random do you know of? I have seen plenty of situations where someone knocks against a car side window but aside from using something heavy, I have never seen one break.

I have an entire computer setup and waiting for two parts. The CPU and Motherboard, not sure how long it will be until I get them. Is there a decent CPU/mobo combo that I could get used from Amazon or something for 30 days and return it once my actual CPU comes in? Everything's just sitting and I want to play.

>>61894078
It is nicer because it lets me look into the case without having for me to open the case moron. Keep up with the childish insults tho, must suck to be poor and not be able to afford that extra money for a tempered glass case.

>>61894102
You need a mac man, this pc shit isn't for you.

>>61894093
>How many cases of car side windows shattering random do you know of?
I think most incidents I've seen have been due to window malfunctions where the pane is torqued.

>>61894118
You need a life man, judging people for their cases on a taiwan horse breeding forum is fucking moronic.

best threadripper motherboard anons?

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>>61891953
>>61891953
>KayP

A female that actually doesn't go full thot mode on twitch and is actually decent at games.

>Dick
>Muh

>>61894124
That is why Corsair cases are shit. Badly made cases that cause torquing and shoddly made panels. I am not sure why people suck corsair dick so much.

>>61894003
Well, I get that you want to make a gaming and streaming rig.

There are key things going on here.
Your maximum refresh rate is 100hz on that 1440p screen.

The 7700K is only recommended for EXTREME fps in games. Like for CS:GO at 240fps and such. For that refresh rate, you may consider Ryzen Processors.

You're streaming, so a higher core count is VERY beneficial and will result in reliablity and overall stability while in games and streaming.

RIGHT NOW, I'd recommend you a R7 1700 Oc'd to 3.9-4.0GHz. That's what I'd get in your postion (and what I actually own)

Now, I said RIGHT NOW because Intel is supposedly releasing Coffee Lake SOON(tm) and they may come with higher core counts so you'd get the best of both worlds. So If I were you I'd wait and see what they have to offer before buying the PC.

>>61894003
>7700k
wow already shit

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>>61892199
>and Nvidia 10 series GPUs are running into problems when you're using the Expresscard method.b
But according to that website, the whole advantage to using ExpressCard 2.0 slots is they aren't affected by it.

https://egpu.io/expresscard-2-0-egpu-interface-pros-cons-candidate-notebook-list/
>is a hotpluggable interface. Important due to NVidia’s GTX10xx cards requiring this for functionality which prevents mPCIe/M2 wifi or PCIe SSD slot interfaces from being used to host a eGPU

Doesn't this mean that if you're using an ExpressCard 2.0 Nvidia cards are just fine?

>>61894093
>I have seen plenty of situations where someone knocks against a car side window but aside from using something heavy, I have never seen one break.
You have to put a fuck ton of effort to actually break car windows as is, the exception being if they are bent in a certain way

>>61894135
Asus for possibly best OC via BIOS options
Gigabyte for equally as reliable but maybe not as much as Asus in software.
Asrock for the same software support as Gigabyte and cheaper boards but not quite as good build quality.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k236WX

>Got the 7700k for less than 200 bucks
>Got the GPU for less than 700 bucks

Also already have all the hard drives, so it's really just the rest of the component I need input on.

>>61894093
>Car windshields use laminated glass that sticks to plastic when shattered so it doesn't spray across your face in car crash.
They're laminated glass, but that doesn't stop the glass from breaking in a crash.
It is designed to break into crumbles rather than shards.
Except for LADA, they don't use pussified safety glass.

>>61894161
Yes car windows are made of tempered glass, which is exactly my point. Well made tempered glass panels are hard as fuck to break. All this fear mongering about PC cases with tempered glass breaking is fucking stupid. You can probably kick it a few times and it will not break. What you have to worry about it pointy, sharp impact which will shatter it. Or badly made corsair cases.

Can someone with a glass panel throw a piece of ceramic at it. For testing

>>61891953
Wow youre insane.

>>61894148
The intent is to do what a lot of streamers do and have a cheapo rig dedicated to the actual streaming with a capture card.
I want a 7700k and 1080ti so i can play *anything* at 1440 on high and not worry about lag.

I've run laggy pieces of shit my entire life, and i want nothing more than to go to the extreme opposite end.

>>61894167
>120 & 250 ssd
for what purpose? other than that it's fine

>>61894193
>Or badly made corsair cases.
I really just want that new meshify c to not have a fucking glass panel, because then I have to look at my gpu sag like a motherfucker

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>>61894187
They absolutely do. Laminated glass are joined together with plastic so when it shatters the glass breaks and "sticks" to the plastic. This is good because when you are in a high speed high long crash, the last thing you want is glass shattering and the momentum of the crash spraying those shards across your face, sharp or not.

Tempered glass is designed to break into rounded shards or crumbs instead of pointed ones.

>>61894216
Like I said I already have both the SSDs The 120 one is from like 3 years ago and the 250 is what i'm going to use for my OS.

>>61894216
>because then I have to look at my gpu sag like a motherfucker
Easily fixed with a fishing line

>>61892175
no you should be good.

>>61894237
I already got one of those brackets off amazon but it doesn't look like it's worth the plastic it's made of
might try fishing line, I assume you just loop it around the gpu's power cords?

>>61891615
>>61891835

Revised part list, again with the goal of current and future games at at least 60 fps at 1080p and possibly upgrading to a dual monitor setup.
How's it looking so far?

>>61894314
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kcJwsJ
Forgot the part list

>>61894314
>>61894323
if you can get the arctic version of that mobo i'd suggest it over the regular
I have the regular version and holy shit does it look awful

>>61894288
Yes. Or around one of the heat pipes of your cooler if your cooler allows it.

So, I have every part to my build besides cpu and psu can I put the gpu and ram on the mobo or should I wait for everything?

>>61894369
You should test your build outside your case before you put it into you build

>>61894216
You could call up fractal and ask them for another non-window door.

Shit, I dropped one of my doors and bent the fuck out of the corner and ruined the paint and they sent me one for free without even asking me.

9 minutes of waiting left lads

>>61894369
You could put stuff in your case like drives, if your board has a cpu socket cover i see no problem prepping the case for insertion, that's what I'm doing once I get the cpu, get everything built and the topper will be my ram and boot.

>>61894382
never thought of that, ill hit them up to see if they have one available

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1 minute

WHERE THE FUCK IS VEGA

>>61894438
>called them up
>"Hey I was an idiot and had my case door fall off because I forgot the thumb screws, can I buy a new one?"
>'Sure thing can you give me an address?'
>Gave them my address
>'Okay we've sent one to you and it should be there in a week
>I got a free new case door and they shipped it internationally to me in under 10 min of being on the line

Fractal are cool guys.

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2/3 orders shipped. Thank fuck.

>>61894383
Nda is not until morning

>>61894464
So are gpus prices back to normal now?

>>61894508
what time
will it be on amazon or newegg at that time too?

>>61894520
Just wait

>>61894519
Not until the miners start dumping their used cards on ebay, etc
that's when Amazon and Newegg and the other retailers may start to feel the pressure and start lowering prices again

>>61893972

>I would drop the SSD to 250 and get ryzen 1600 instead, good boost.

I would assume 250 GB in SSD + storage is sufficient and that I'm better off getting a better CPU using the money saved?

>You can remove pretty much all the botnet from it. That's what i did and haven't had any problems so far

Is there a guide somewhere? I'm on the fence with Windows 10 but as long as I can remove all the actual unneeded bloat I can live with it

>>61894519

>GPU prices return to normal
>Implying RAM/SSD prices wouldn't go full retard to compensate

>>61894537
>Implying RAM/SSD prices wouldn't go full retard to compensate
iirc ram and ssd prices are set to rise until the start of next year

>>61894537
250 GB should be more than enough for Windows 10 and maybe a handful of games you play a lot and want to be able to open quickly
Everything else can be stored on platter drives

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>AIO has 4 fans
>remove 2 so it fits in the top of my case
>also add the aesthetic panel that blocks most of the airflow
>run F@H on all cores for a while while watching youtube
>temps never reach 60C

>>61894537
>>61894564
And if nothing else, you can always start with just a 250 and then expand from there later on....just about every modern case has mounts for at least two SSD's, and any new non-budget motherboard has at least one M.2 slot

>>61894537
I already have ram and ssd tho, so I only care about new gpu. I guess I might as well wait until volta.

>>61894531
WHAT TIME

Would it be unwise to use the power supply from my current build in a new one? It's an NZXT HALE90 80+ gold, but it's ~7 years old now. For reference if it's helpful: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116011

>>61894591
>any new non-budget motherboard has at least one M.2 slot
yeah mine's under my fucking gpu slot so it would get cooked in a matter of seconds
thanks msi

>>61894665
that seems to be the most common place, at least for boards with one connector
is it that big of a problem? or only if you have a super GPU like a 1080?

>>61894662
If it was built right, it will just shut off when it dies. That risk is yours to weigh.

>>61894662
I'm not familiar with their PSU's, so I can't speak to the quality
How often do you leave that computer on? Did you regularly put it under load? Close to the wattage limit?

If you didn't really push it during those years, I imagine you should be able to get at least a couple more years out of it

first pc build
Sometimes on booting or waking from sleep the the display stays blank. Like the mobo boot screen doesn't even show up (on booting from off). Hard shutdown and start up is required. When this is done when it happens after sleep, the system retains memory if shutdown and started in direct succession.
Happens a few times a week.
What do? Am I destroying my components with all these hard resets?

>>61894817
Nope. At most hard resets fucks up your OS and HDD.

r8 my build (costs $801 total including a $40 case and a $5 fan hub) It's for 1080@30 on medium on most games (like BF1) while still being able to render videos on Vegas and edit in Photoshop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzbpcc

I'm given a budget of $1000 dollars but I'm going to use the spare $200 to buy a second hand Thinkpad for college.

>>61894844
Get the 1300X instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RxZQJV

hearing a lot of contradictory info on the nzxt kraken x62 specifically with regards to noise levels. ppl say it's quiet as fuck but others talk about unbearable pump noises - is it just luck of the draw?

>>61891039
Why would you make your sister do this?

I wanna be able to play CS GO/TF2 at 60 FPS at low-medium settings and do some qt programming.

I've need 8 GB Ram and 500 gb/1 tb harddrive.

Do you guys have any build reccomendations? Will be using Arch Linux.

>>61895011
>I wanna be able to play CS GO/TF2 at 60 FPS at low-medium settings
I can sell you my old pc for $200

>>61892321
>NO I5 UNLESS DISCOUNTED

>>61895011
>I wanna be able to play CS GO/TF2 at 60 FPS at low-medium settings
Shit, I can blow past this with my Phenom II X4/GTX 660 build from 2011
WTF are you using right now?

>>61895011
Ryzen 3 would be overkill.

>>61895092
I mean he can probably get an i5-2500 and it will do as well.

>>61895099
I assume he wants to buy new parts.

>>61895110
Then he can literally buy anything, the bar he set is so low
He could go get some $250 shitbox from Best Buy and meet his goal

>>61895110
I mean a 300 dollar netbook running iGPU can probably play CSGO/TF2 on low-medium settings.

>>61895134
>>61895132
>>61895099
shhh guys I really want to get that $200 from my old pc

>>61894537
Yes. The 1600 is a good boost, and as you said, save the money from the bigger ssd to get the better cpu. It'll do you good, and even better in the long run. As you can easily just drop another ssd down the road.

About the Win 10 bloat yes, here's one of the most complete ones. Bare with the guy because he goes pretty in depth and you can go as autist as you want with privacy and bloat removal.
https://youtu.be/u1kGMCfb2xw
Prevent windows 10 spying

what time will vega be on amazon?

>>61895211
12 seconds after you go to bed

>>61895215
and 10 seconds after that it will sell out.

Will the evga 600w 80bronze be good enough for the vega 56

>>61895254
Depends on the CPU but unless you have an OC threadripper, probably

But I'd get a 750W

http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=hottopic&wr_id=7333&ckattempt=1

Benchs are out boys.
Typical AMD card. Good synthetics. Bad in game. Runs hot and loud. 1080 is superior.

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>>61895266
>tfw AMD will never make a an HD7000 series again that runs cool and performs good.

>>61895266
>516 watts on Vega 64 liquid @ 50% powerlimit
THATS A HOUSEFIRE BOYS

>>61895266
>Runs hot and loud.

That, as always, depends on the aftermarket cooler. But yeah it sucks power like there's no tomorrow

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>>61895215
>>61895246
>>61895246
dont play with my emotions u nigger

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How many extra yottaflops will this add?

Can I render complex physics simulations with it?

>>61895266
>Draws 500 watts
>Still can't beat 1080ti
POOR VOLTA

>>61895262
It will be i5 6600k

>>61891953
delusional

GOD DAMN IT SHIT DO I BUY VEGA 56 OR NO?!?!?

I DON'T EVEN NEED ANYTHING BETTER THAN AN RX 560 WHICH I RUN NOW, BUT I WANT!

IF I DON'T BUY IT MINERS WILL BUY ALL THE FUCKING CARDS AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO UPGRADE FOR SOME TIME.

I KNOW I SHOULD WAIT FOR AIB CARDS BUT I MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO A HYBRID MOD AND IF THE PCB IS LIKE THE VEGA FE CARD IT'S A BEAST OUT OF THE BOX

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO /g/?!?!??!

>>61895409
Vega a shit
Let the miners buy them, leave the good cards for us

>>61895409
Wait for the reviews. If it is out of stock, just buy the 1070.

wen cars out? 2bus pubg

>>61895424
>>61895430
But we know it's going to beat the 1070, and 1070 prices are still high, and my display is free-sync, plus nvidia is anti-consumer and anti-free software so fuckem

>>61895454
>we know it's going to beat the 1070
No we don't

>1070 prices are still high
Still around the same as Vega56. And the Vega56 doesn't release till later this month.

>my display is free-sync
Good point

>nvidia is anti-consumer and anti-free software so fuckem
Good point but you should punish yourself by buying inferior hardware anyway.

>>61895469
Did you mean shouldn't*? And it isn't, my RX 480 was at 1450mhz faster than the 1060 on average, and I think we can very well assume that Vega 56 will be beating the 1070, since the Fury X is just behind a 1070, and on clocks alone the Vega cards are faster, likely pushing 1700mhz with proper cooling, though I'm going to undervolt them, not OC them.

Didn't know 56 wasn't coming till later since AMD asked reviewers to focus on that rather than 64

>>61895504
Well lets just wait for the benches shall we. The 64 benches are already out and it looks like a piece of turd.

>>61895592
I assume the 64 is tying or beating the 1080 in some situations, but where are the 64 benchmarks?

>>61895640
Here >>61895266
500 fucking watts boys.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmCrFd
r8

>>61895648
I really don't care how much power it draws when overclocked, I'm going to undervolt it to get it as close to 200W as possible given the Vega Nano's TDP of 150W

aside from that we know AMD cards get better with new drivers, in addition it's likely the drivers are still just modified Fiji drivers, 50% higher clock speeds for less than that in performance doesn't add up unless there's another hardware bottleneck.

>>61895504
Pc illiterate here, why would you want to undervolt it

>>61895711
>FE release
>AMD will release the secret sauce drivers for the RX
>64 release
>AMD will release the secret sauce drivers in the future

JUST WAIT™

>>61895719
Save electricity and reduce thermals.

>>61895663
>Buying a case

>>61895719
You still get more performance and the card runs cooler.

Adored will likely post Undervolt performance for RX Vega

Fury Cards all had the chance to get near the Fury Nano TDP of 175W, an undervolted Fury tied a 980 in power consumption in Tom's's old testing.

Here's the Vega FE undervolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkfYDWwo7s

>>61895733
Why do you think Vega 64 ties the 1080ti in BF1 in those chink benchmarks, but is slower in other games? It's optimization, it's a long process, especially since AMD's R&D team works with Bananas and Duct Tape to push out software. look how long it took them to put out a fast sync or shadowplay equivalent.

>>61895760
>>buying a case
What did he mean by this

>>61895760
>Why do you think Vega 64 ties the 1080ti in BF1 in those chink benchmarks, but is slower in other games?
It is simple. BF1 DX12 implementation is notoriously fucking shit. No one plays BF in DX12. Everyone plays it in DX11, AMD or Nvidia. Both of the cards are showing lower FPS than what they are capable of because the game itself is fucking sad bagging both.

>>61895766
There are $15 PSUs to buy, and you can use the box everything ships in as the case

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>>61895766
You don't need a case, components work just fine on their own. If you need something to store them in then just find a box or a crate somewhere and attach everything to it.

>>61891039
Is that Natalia Dyer?

>>61895797
>>61895805
What about the motherboard shorting?

>>61895855
Shouldn't be a problem

Finally have enough cash to build my first pc. Just wanted yalls thoughts before I buy it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3Xfbj

I was on 4GB for a while and it's just not enough anymore, but 2x4 kits are $50+. Is there any way to save here?

>>61895870
Great, thanks. I think I have a shoebox in the closet, hope that'll fit.

>>61895941
get a matching 4gb stick/kit and double current ram.

>>61895885
Looks like you did a lot of research. Just make sure that RAM actually clocks to 3000 on the current available BIOS.

>>61895951
If you aren't shitposting that PC is beyond shit never build it

>>61889858
Pls help

>>61895958
No good, the old stuff is a 4x1gb set.

>>61895805
>having to hotwire your computer like some Jamal.

>>61895965
27" 4k IPS free-sync obviously, and you don't run games at 1440p on a 4k display you run them at 1080p.

those displays start at around $400

>>61895963
I got the APU for $8, I gotta do it. I'm getting the MOBO/RAM second-hand for savings anyway.

>>61895962
Will do anon

>>61895990
Then buy an EVGA or Seasonic PSU minimum

>>61896007
Why bother? What do I lose if I fry all this shit?

>>61895989
The €450 one is freesync as well as the €550 one but I'm scared the 56 won't be able to run a lot of games at 4K/60

>>61896019
you have a spare reliable PSU for future use

>>61896032
It'll be fine with settings tweaks, likely no AA which you don't need at 4k 27' anyways and lower shadows

>>61896059
Fair enough. I'll get a used one.

>>61896079
Alright I guess I'll wait for real benchmarks for now.

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>>61894001
>save up for months to build a new PC to replace my broken ten year old pos
>GPU prices get retarded at the worst possible timing
>end up buying a 1050ti instead of a 580

>>61893937
>$1000
Just get
>>61895885
but get a cheap GPU (maybe a 7970) and drop the SSD. Just wait for the mining craze to blow over.

>>61895409
NO YOU RETARD.

>>61894167
>Got the 7700k for less than 200 bucks

how

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What's the general consensus on these "closed loop" water cooled CPU coolers?

I have a Mini-ITX build so I'm trying to avoid buying one of those massive air coolers. Any idea if they break easy in transport? I move this PC around every now and then, not often but more than a normal desktop. I am currently looking at buying 'Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer C'. Any other suggestions are welcome. It needs to cool a 6700K and it needs to be shorter than 95mm (but smaller is better). I'm not crazy about overclocking I just like the idea of not having a massive heat sink to work around in this small case.

>>61893937
Just buy a second hand PC. Like a Dell optiplex and throw a 1050TI in it.

>>61896690
scam

>Mini-ITX
don't do that

>>61896674
Connections with people who ran the intel retail edge program.
It's a program that lets retail electronic workers get intel discounts, i'm not a retail worker, just buddies with someone who is behind the scenes there.

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>>61894003
>7700k
>When 8700k is two weeks away
>Worst of both worlds Hybrid hdd
>Acer Monitor
Don't do that.

>>61896699
Scam how? The computer is already done and I'm perfectly happy with the mini-ITX form factor. I'm just upgrading the CPU.

What mouse should I buy for FPS gaming?

>>61896763
G403
G Pro

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Please recommend a good 144hz monitor for my new 1080.

Thanks

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>>61896771
Thanks!

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>>61896751
show me your itx build. i need to try to understand you retards that insist on small computers

Still no good cases on sale. Damn it.

>>61896772
XB271HU
PG279Q

vega when

VEGA day is here....

What do?

I've got ~£500 that I can spend at scan (and I need to get a card asap I'm done waiting)
So I guess my options are 1070,1080,VEGA64

I can get:
GTX 1070: ~£440 EVGA FTW Gaming
GTX 1080: ~£490 Gigabyte windforce
VEGA64: £500? (UK Pricing not out for a few more hours)

I assume there is no point in getting the 1070 if it's only £70 extra to go to 1080.

Monitors: 3x 1080p 60Hz
Occasionally using my 4k tv also.

I realize it's a bit overkill, but I'm not going to upgrade for likely ~5 years after this gpu so want to make sure I get some longevity out of it. Based on this is the VEGA 64 worth it, if it's similar price and perfomance to 1080 (And supports DX12 fully)

>>61896834
1070 is for max 1080p to mid 1440p.
If you aren't going to upgrade for 5 years I would personally get the highest performing card on the market.

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>>61896784
There was cable management once I swear.

May as well bump my question. >>61896690

>>61896690
I like them, a generally easier to work with since you can just bolt the radiator to the case and they don't block the RAM slots and you don't generally need to worry about clearance except for the radiator itself.

It should be fine in transport if you attach the radiator to the case well enough. You don't have a giant heatsink hanging off the board so I wouldn't worry about it.

The only downside is possible pump noise or the pump just dying at some point. So far I've never had one die and I can't hear the pump noise so YMMV there.

>>61896874
That is awful. Blind monkeys in a garage can do better cable management than you.

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>>61896874
Delete this

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>>61891574
>Wrong

I know from experience.

>>61896874
cable management is a meme

what exact time can i order vega? WHEN

>>61896960
When you have enough good boy points and finish all your tendies

>>61896886
Cheers, I'll probably go with it since all the stores around here are pretty limited on stock so the air coolers aren't even much cheaper. Anything I might want to know before putting it in that might cause me issues?

>>61896897
>>61896907
No bully.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGH4bj

Does this build look fine? Will the 550w be enough? This build will do very light gaming and then just photo/video editing.

>>61892322
I agree with >>61892489 in that a 4gb RX580 isn't worth it. If you can wait and jump on an 8gb model then you'd be pretty set. Otherwise the 1060 6GB would be better. Also my personal preference is for the Define C mini; they even have a tempered glass edition now that looks pretty slick imo. Might be a little more but it does come with 2 fans (I think) and I would hesitate to have a case without any case fans. The price difference would be made up by the Inwin's need for at least 2 fans.

my next mobo will be black

So with Vega being a bust, it looks like the 1080 is the only respectable option on the market (i'd consider a 1070 desu, but good luck finding them)

I just thought i'd ask why is theres so much variance in 1080 pricing? I've found a few for £490-520, but others are £580+, is it binning, or just manufacture gouging for certain editions?

>>61897197
Just like your wife's next son.

>>61897226
SHEEEEEIIIT

>>61897219
>Vega
>Bust
64 maybe, 56 is looking promising imo.

>>61897219
Certain brands are naturally more expensive due to cooler design (EVGA or ASUS with their big ass triple fan cooler). Even within the same brands, there is binning. Someone of them will come overclocked out of the box with better mhz and with GPU boost 3.0, these slightly pricer cards will perform ~100mhz or so better than the non OC ones. So it depends on if you are willing to pay that extra dollar for those extra clock speed.

>>61891039
According to this I should get a used Xeon, if I'm wanting to do gpu passthrough.

Which models are worth going for?

>>61891338
ITTY BITTY TITTY COMMITTEE

>>61897120
Any chance you could move to a 1700?

>>61897285
Its for my dad's causal desktop work and light photo/video editing. Do you think he would need the 1700?

>>61897308
Probably not. Sorry, I thought the prices were fairly close. It's not worth $80 more in your use case imo. Build looks good.

>>61897261
I figured as much, the price variation just seems more extreme than say, a 1060, but i suppose they can get away with it as it's a premium card.

>>61897335
Cool. Thanks for the input.

>the only reasonably-priced current-gen gpus are bottom tier low-end or 1080tis

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>>61897251
I dunno, if the 56 operates under 250w it might be worth getting, but that review videocardz posted is claiming the 64 is pushing 340w in gaming, we could probably expect the 56 to hover around 290-310w in similar situations.

What is a "normal" price for a GTX 1070? I have about $350 for my GPU budget and I feel like with current prices I am really in between tiers. I know a reasonable RX580 is going to be about $280-$300, but is there any possibility I could go up in performance without crossing into the $400 range? I do 1080p gaming right now but having a GTX 1070 would be pretty great if I planned on moving up to 1440p within the next couple months.
Also I could use some advice on 140mm case fans. I want 2 of them for intake fans on a Meshify C. They probably won't be running near full capacity anytime soon but I would like some fans with the capability to move a lot of air. Noise isn't a huge concern/problem though because I use studio monitor style headphones 99% of the time.

>>61897219
I've noticed this. There's an EVGA FTW 1080 going for $450 by me and a STRIX going for $480. The only one higher priced that makes sense is the 11gb model but even the same models people try selling for $800 someones still. Even on eBay they are bidding higher than local.

vega is up

Fugg, i wanted a AMD GPU because free sync monitors were actually reasonably priced. The G-Sync premium is comparatively ridiculous.

>>61897411
MSRP for 1070 is 350 but you are not getting a 1070 at 350 in this current climate.

>>61897429
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-review-leak/
scroll down towards bottom. its crap. roughly same price as gtx1080, still loses in plenty of benchmarks, to a 1080FE. i was hoping it wouldnt be like this.

>>61897476
Don't forget. 500 watts.

>>61897476
>wccfcuck

I have the current rig:
3570k Oc'd to 4.3Ghz
8GB DDR3
1x HDD
2x SSD
Radeon HD 7850

Thinking of upgrading to GTX 1080 / VEGA 64

Is my curent corsair 750W going to be enough?

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>>61897479
>500 watts.

>>61897490
It is actually from HWbattle linked here >>61895266 but AMD took it down so other sites are reposting it since it kinda skirts around the NDA a little. They aren't posting their review but someone else review which broke the NDA.

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>have to manually remove vega from my computer when im done gaming so i can afford to eat

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tqyx3F

Will the case work with the motherboard and cooling?

Also are there any other issues?

>>61897548

kek

>>61897560
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tqyx3F
>Will the case work with the motherboard and cooling?
>Also are there any other issues?

Oops I fucked, only one 360mm cooling**

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YCVBVY

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRbkM8
Can this last me until 7nm zen? ( I am adding a gtx 1070 or volta?, Navi? Later when the prices drop back to normal)

>>61897493
Yes

>>61897623
yeah, obviously. consider an ssd if you don't have one already and a b350 mobo instead.

>>61891039
>tfw same gpu
>tfw no qt will ever hold it like this for you

>>61897433
I just play with my Nvidia gpu on a freesync monitor with no tearing.

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Enthoo Luxe or Corsair 750D for water cooling 360mm fan and x399 motherboard?

>>61898068
Freesync is still unused in that scenario.

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GOUGED

>>61898227
I'm getting more scared for euro pricing by the second.

Buying a card to replace my 760 but I want to make sure I can resell it if volta turns out to be any good (bought a gsync monitor). What does /g/ think will have a better resell value in 6 months time, a 1070 brought for £350 or a 1080 for £450?

I'm going to build a PC in September. I'm a software developer and have knowledge how hardware works at low level (like low level computer architecture), but I know very little about actual builds and components.

I live in Greece, and my budget is 700-800 euro.
I use Linux as my primary OS, but will need to dual boot Windows for audio recording/mixing (high priority) and video editing. I do not need to buy either so don't include them in the price.

My main use will be developing using some IDEs like Android Studio, Intellij, Brackets, VSC, as well as a lot of browsing, and as I mentioned before, audio recording/mixing. I also might need to host a couple of websites although I have a Raspberry Pi 3B so I might use that.

So far I was thinking:
> CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
>SSD
I have an Intenso M.2 240GB
>RAM
16GB DDR-4
>GPU
Either something cheap or my old laptop's GeForce GT 525M

Any recommended builds?

rx vega in 45 minutes. its gunna be crap anyways.

>>61899377
>>61899377
>>61899377