Well, well, well, well... What have we here?

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So, this is how Israel dies...

>>61864617
>What have we here?

even more AMD shilling?

>>61864617
that 1950x isnt even overclocked either

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>>61864630
>shilling

nice try, shlomo

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>>61864617
You have been reported to the IDF as a threat to the homeland

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>>61864625
>1700 beating 5960x

>>61864634
It barely overclocks. While the 7900x does significantly. Muh housefire isn't an issue because these are not for servers.

>>61864674
Is 7z compression bound to something different than cpu speed?

16 cores beats 10 cores. Who knew!

>>61864691
a cpu beats more expensive cpu!

who knew!

>>61864691
>implying 16 housefire cores at much lower clocks will do any better

>>61864691
you mean $999 16 core beats $999 10 core?

And here are muh gaming test for the interested. Too many of them to post here..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/13

STOP BULLYING INTEL DAMNIT

THEY WILL COME BACK

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>>61864660
>Muh housefire isn't an issue

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>>61864660
>It barely overclocks. While the 7900x does significantly. Muh housefire isn't an issue because these are not for servers.

>>61864660
>Muh housefire isn't an issue
who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?

>bought a Ryzen 7 1700 system for work
>started doing video/audio editing for a couple podcasts on the side
>could genuinely use moar coars and the price is compelling

$1000 for a 16c/32t CPU is hard to say no too. Just a few month back intel was selling their top Broadwell-E SKU for $1700, and there wasn't any real competition until Ryzen came along.
I might actually have to buy a Threadripper system just to cut down on render time.

>>61864754
Obiviously it is only important when amd is hot.

>>61864617
AMD is an anti-semitic company, we should boycott them.

>>61864734
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>>61864767
Intel overclocks at the cost of being a housefire, amd doesn't overclock at all, what is better? Amd has better price/perf, I'm not arguing that.

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>>61864630
t. poo in joo

>>61864982
TR has been pushed to 4.2 GHz without much issue. Good luck getting a 16 core Intel to that clockspeed without burning your house down.

>>61864991
I legitimately believe the 18-core abortion WILL incinerate your motherboard.

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>>61864617
>>61864625
>>61864636
>>61864651
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>>61864674
FUCK AMD

>>61865003
Didn't intel pull this SKU?

>>61864617
>180W
I'll never use a CPU which needs more than 100W. i9 is more efficient. Even 1800x is more efficient. 1700 seems ideal.

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>>61865079
>i9 is more efficient
It's just two Ryzen dies, it's not any less efficient than one. i9 10 core uses almost as much if not more power in most workloads.

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>>61864660
lol. Who cares how hard you can OC it if it still loses?

And yeah you aren't getting the 12+ cores to 4.5 GHz, the 7900X can barely get there itself without melting a hole in the motherboard.

>>61864783
It's already out of stock on Amazon, better hurry because they are probably going to be sold out everywhere soon .. not even kidding.

>>61865152
Liquid nitrogen is the new standard for cooling intel abortions.

>>61864991
I don't know about the 16 core but Intel's 10 core is pretty competitive overall to the 16 core TR, even when moar cores are utilized if you look at the benchmarks, that says something.
>>61865152
Not always
>>61865079
Every time, TDP isn't just power consumption and die temperature, they calculate it differently so it doesn't mean much. 1700 and 1800x are very similar, if you play around with voltages you can make them identical.
>I'll never use a CPU which needs more than 100W
What difference does it make?

>>61865171
Yeah I just checked. Most of the combo deals on Newegg are sold out too, though the CPUs themselves are still in stock. I might make myself an early morning drink and pull the trigger on this right now.

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j-jews are my greatest ally

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Hebrews on suicide watch

>>61864982
>what is better
VRMs that do not burn

AMD opens up shop in israel, and suddenly amd is competitive.
Makes you wonder just how much trustzone/psp has improved performance.
Fuck intelamd I'm buying a talos II.

>>61864660

Only brain-dead idiots want to deal with a CPU that alone consumes 300W+.

This isn't the 1990s and early 2000s anymore.

You better hope your high-end AIO doesn't run into complications or the MOSFETs and VMR on your motherboard don't decide to give up the ghost six month or so down the road.

>>61865238

LN2 is only good for suicide runs.

Condensation eventually kills your motherboard. LN2 gets to be pretty expensive as you need to go through kiloliters of the stuff if you want to run 24/7.

>>61864982
Intel would overclock even better if they used solder and the IHS was within spec. I think the issue is that Skylake X was openly crippled by Intel just to save a dollar per CPU, and having to delid to overclock just means you were sold a defective CPU for $1000. Even if Skylake X completely destroyed AMD, you still shouldnt buy it due to how hostile it is to the consumer. It's just a bad product regardless of performance, you shouldn't have to delid a CPU under.any circumstances.

>>61864617
>amd is on par with intel on most bench on intel-optimized softwares
damn daniel, intel drones will have to work hard to shill this massive disapointment that is the i.

>>61864698
Same price actually.

>>61865976
i9*

>>61865933
1950x alone consumes 300W+.

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I have bad news for you /g/oys.

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>>61866228
You are like little baby.
Watch this.

>>61864690
drive access time? I wonder if they use a ram disk, if it would score better?

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>>61865867
Intel fanboys have resorted to burying their heads in the sand. Sad!
>poo in loo
Intel can help you with that.

>180W
I was on vacation. Why is it so high ?

>>61866987
Why? It's 16 cores, that's why. Intel's 10 core is 140 watts and still draws more power under some (most heavy) workloads.
>>61865107

how is threadripper higher tdp yet pwople say intel is fire?

>>61867316
It can actually keep itself cool because it's soldered and has a huge heatspreader.

Intel uses toothpaste under the lid leading to insane temps even at stock with watercooling.

>>61866512
Doesn't make amd less jewed.

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>>61865107

cointelpro

>>61867419
Yes this has been posted before and there's no info on what was measured, or what was being used. Not even on the site it's from. No other review has numbers anywhere close to this. Fake news.

>>61864617
>rendering on a CPU

Guess that's what you have to resort to when you don't own an Nvidia card.

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@61867498 (You)

>>61867498

GPU rendering is only good if you like everything to have a vaseline filter.

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>>61867498
Kekkeroonis, bro.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-16gb,review-33968-6.html

>>61867398
yes but the heat out is still higher right? i get the performance is way better in everything but single core though

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
IT WAS INTEL'S TURN!!!

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>>61864630
yup just amd shilling here.

>>61867632
The fuck are you talking about?

Nvidia iRay looks awesome.
And end result is identical no matter where you render it on, it's just a lot faster with a GPU.

>>61867643
>OpenGL

We're talking about ray tracing, kid.

>>61867648
Theoretically yes, but in a lot of cases Intel just ends up using more watts from the wall anyway.

>>61867816
i expect at low to med workloads it will be basically the same?

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>meanwhile, in reality

>>61867879
intel has 16 out of 17 of the best cpus. your point?

>>61867910

2nd place is just being the best loser.

I want to buy Threadripper, but there are no good cooling solutions for it. What's the best one?

>>61867919
no you dont, and you know theres good solutions

>>61867910
Why would you ever buy anything other than the best?

>>61864991
>TR has been pushed to 4.2 GHz
You can even find search results where TR is pushed to 5.1 GHz

>>61864982
>amd doesn't overclock at all
kek, good one, keep lying to yourself, only this way you can justify buying inferior product.

>>61867933
Why don't I want to buy it? What's a good solution for it?

Enthrall me, anon, since you seem to know everything.

>>61867910
Threadripper is cheaper than any of them. Only a diehard fanboy would pay more for less performance.

>>61867955
you would know if you wanted to buy it. youre just vaguely disguising a question

>>61867919
I don't know whether it's the best, but Noctua has several coolers for Threadripper/Epyc. Check their site http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail

>>61868020
>>61868058
Noctua only offers single-fan air cooling solutions for Threadripper at the moment. If they had the NH-D15 for Threadripper, I'd have gotten it in a heartbeat.

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>>61864617
To be honest I never thought I'd see the day when an AMD cpu makes the top 10 on pissmark, yet here we are at #1. Or at least until intel pays them to change the benchmarks again.

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>>61867419

>>61864656
I'm so glad I didn't buy Haswell-X now. I would've regretted it. I loved Intel, but this is the last fuckin' straw that broke my motherboard's back. After my excellent 6700k, I'm going Zen 2.

>>61867879
>>61867910


999$ cpu beats a 2700$ cpu by 4%

Thats a close 300% better perf/$

Thats utterly insane value. Nothing comes close to that.

>>61867943
>5.1 GHz TR
that explains where this came from >>61867419

>>61868302
Ryzen Mobile is going to be another market segment AMD is going to enter and immediately make everyone say "WTF was Intel doing this entire time?"

>>61867943
Alright, I meant to say it barely overclocks, are you satisfied now? Its limit is 4ghz, 4.1-4.2 are rare even for 1950x.
>You can even find search results where TR is pushed to 5.1 GHz
Obviously with ln, are you pretending to be retarded, why even bring that up?

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>>61868484
>AMD's low end will be 3.3GHz quad cores while Intel's are 1.6GHz dual cores

>>61867910
>intel makes a shitload of SKUs to jew customers
You say it like it's a good thing.

>>61867416
They make AMD look like saints in comparison.

>>61867777
The limitation is even a Titan X Can only fit 16 GB of assets in GPU RAM, while a CPU can address hundreds of GB, which makes GPU render not an option for companies like Pixar.
Until the Radeon SSG at least.

>>61867910
are you retarded

>>61868373
Ryzen/TR is limited by their process node. Gen 2 or 3 was suggested to be near 5Ghz

>>61868915
>Taking the bait

Your summer is showing

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>>61868100
Wait for the (((update)))

>>61864690
Compression programs like memory speed.

>>61864625
60% extra cores
Less than 20% extra performance

Nice shit

>>61864991
Sure pal, at 1.45v 400w. But it's okay with amd

>>61869206

Maybe you need to review the effect of contact area in relation to thermal transfer

>>61869231
He was too busy drawing Intel logos instead of paying attention in 8th grade science class.

Or he doesn't realize Intel's been putting jizz under the lid for even their HEDT CPUs now.

>>61868899

Its a shame /g/ has no idea what the radeon SSG's niche really is and exactly why Nvidia has zero answers to it.

>>61868100
OY VEY

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>>61869184
You know the only reason the 10 core gets anywhere near TR 16 core is because Intel went full retard with the clockspeeds and power draw, right? The TDP is a lie, bro. Also the temps are fucking stupid because of the shitty TIM they're using. >>61865107

>>61864721
>the year is almost 2018
>arithmetic average FPS is still the main measure of """performance"""
>not a single chart talking about frametimes (aka the shit that actually matters if you want smooth gameplay)

>>>/trash/

>>61869330
If this is with AVX it's not that bad. If I went to run the latest version of prime95 now on my 4670k at 4.2ghz it would probably go just as high.

>>61864660
But where will you live when your house burns down?

>>61867910
I thought you weren't supposed to use electronics on Shabbat.

>>61865963
So? Are you poor so you cannot afford it?
> Intel shills

>>61865985
see
>>61864718
and then do some little bit of math for yourself

>>61869330
1950x isn't some power sipper either. Power draw is similar between the 7900x and 1950x. 7900x is hotter at stock, both are close when oced. That's it. What difference does that make for the average user?

>>61869684
now imagine 6 more cores on the intel

>>61869792
GLOBALFIRES

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>>61869684
Maybe I'm going to have to update this.

wtf I love amd now

>>61864617
Interesting. I expected a slightly larger margin of victory of on the 1950X, maybe like 10% more? What is the all core boost on both processors? Will be really interested in seeing clang 4+ and GCC 7 compiled benches on Linux.

Gamers Nexus said manually overclocking TR made it slower in a few cases.
Because most TR can only get 3.9-4.0ghz on all 16cores.
While leaving it stock, XFR pushes a few cores to 4.2ghz

>>61870203
You can always look at different reviews and compare results.

>>61868100
IMO that's the wrong chart, the "correct" one is this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/desktop.html

>>61869116
>I WAS ONLY PRETENDING
Every time.

>>61870444
>25-30% difference in most real workloads
>15% difference on trashmark

They're still biased, it's just not showing as much.

>>61870095
>filename
Same fucking thing over and over again. The number of cores is irrelevant, it could be 2 vs 16 it doesn't fucking matter at all, see >>61869184

>>61870667
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!

Gonna have to add this to the list? Maybe.

>>61867910
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>>61869457
what annoys me is the one shitpost i make gets so many replies compared to the actual posts i put structure into.

>>61870841
(you)

>>61870704
For the average user who will buy this it doesn't. Even if it did, according to this one benchmark the difference is what, 20%?

>>61864718
>>61864660
>>61864691
>>61869184

BTFO!!!!!!!!!

>>61870933
Holy shit these estimates keep going down. It's actually 30% in that workload.

I hope you're ready for disappointment when the 16 core Intel comes out and matches the 16 core AMD in most workloads while consuming a crazy amount of power and costing $700 more.

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>>61870981
ITT retards who don't understand how core counts scale with clockspeeds and power usage.

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>>61871231
delid dis