/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

this thread is a joke, sage

>>61833675
this is the only real /tpg/

>>61833675
Kya faggot

I want a laptop with a good screen and at least a 4th gen CPU, what should I get?

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Don't type on me or my wife's son's laptop ever again

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hey guys what is your favorite gay anime everyone in /g/ is a raging homosex am i right

>>61834876
acer e15 great battery, two gpus, i5, $300-500

>>61834876
>4th gen CPU

80486?

So guys, I have a dilemma.
Lenovo ThinkPad W550s
15.6" / 2880 x 1620 / IPS / non touch / Intel Core i7-5600U / 8GB RAM DDR3 / 500 GB (HDD) / NVIDIA - Quadro K620

or
DELL Latitude E5570 (5570-8108)
15.6" / 1920 x 1080 / Intel Core i7 / 8GB RAM DDR4 / 500 GB (HDD) / AMD R7

Both are priced the same and both come with windows 7 (because of work I will have to dual boot)

I am leaning towards the W550s, it has a better display and according to some reviews battery lasts longer. Sadly it is also bigger and heavier. Do you guys have some details about the build quality?

Thanks mates!

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I got an X220 for free, after looking at all potential upgrades, it would run me about ~$300 (unless I can find cheaper alternatives) for:
>i7-2620M board
>256GB SSD
>8GB RAM
>IPS screen

Would you say its worth it?

>>61835135
>i7
Not worth it desu senpai

>>61834984
I want a Thinkpad, but thanks.

>>61835016
Intel's 4th gen level

>>61835153
really? The CPU runs pretty hot while idle so I figured I'd just upgrade. Maybe its just dust

>>61835186
Just clean your fan out and apply new thermal paste and you should be fine. If you really need that usb 3.0 port the i7 board has the go for it. But you can always get a usb 3.0 express card

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What will you do once XX20/XX30 series ThinkPads are too slow to use for daily computing?

>>61835533
I'm still on Penryn. I reckon I'll be dead before my Sandy Bridge Thinkpads stop doing what I need them to.

>>61835533
I'll think about it when a sandybridge quadcore and 16GB of RAM is not enough

>>61835533
I mean only reason I don't use my x201 anymore is because the battery is dead and it did everything I used it for. So I guess I'll stick to my x220 until the battery is dead.

Is it true that I could spill hot liquids on my X220 and not kill it?

>>61835640
>not replacing the battery

>>61836011
Just cum in a towel like everyone else.

>>61836030
I mean I could but why would when I have another laptop

>>61836120
My Thinkpad is for traveling, I mean if some retard at an airport spills their pumpkin spice latte or whatever the fuck.

>>61836157
I meant when your X220 dies.

>>61835533
Even my c2d t60 is more than enough for everything.

>>61835051
I hate using dell so much, it is like a big heavy brick that is nothing but dead weight

>>61835051
I'd go with the Dell Latitude. It's a good build quality and doesn't come with the limitations of Lenovo. Running Linux on a Lenovo T/W series is always a gamble.

>waiting for seller to ship x230
this is gonna be a long week/weekend

>>61835158
>Intel's 4th gen level
that's still 486

So guys I got my first X220 in the mail yesterday. To my surprise it had a IPS screen so I got a X220 w/ a 160 GB SSD, 4GB of RAM, and IPS pannel for $139. The seller said the screen was perfect, yet when I got it it has slight ghosting and a small white mark (only noticeable on black backgrounds.) Should I return it /tpg/?

>>61836482
>doesn't come with the limitations of Lenovo
What might these be? I see you shills have gone to the level of flat out lying now.

>>61833645
Stop being a faggot.
You're an hour late dipshit

>>61836866
Latitudes/Precisions use MXM slotted GPUs instead of soldered, and since Dell also owns Alienware they tend to be compatible with higher-end GPUs. I think the P70/P71 is the only MXM Thinkpad, and Thinkpads tend to be pretty restrictive about non-factory components.

>>61837361
in case you haven't noticed, this is currently the only /tpg/
The gay one died

>>61835135

If it's free... it's worth it. Anything FREE is worth it.

Where do people buy new thinkpands from in Germany?

>install Mandrake 7.0 on T23
>screen resolution goes down to 640x480 and can't alter it
>try to change it in the BIOS
>either makes it 640x480 in a small square in the middle of the screen or stretches the picture out towards the edges of the screen, still in 640x480
Has this happened to anyone else?

>>61835135
I wouldn't get the i7 upgrade but if you need the extra power...
concerning SSD, RAM and IPS, these are a must have with any laptop they're available for

>>61837462
except diseases

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>tfw no 14.5" lcd panel to cram into a t430 for that thinnn bezel aesthetics

>>61836846

It's your decision anon... but just so you know my x220 also ips and also has a little white spot lower right side... doesn't bother. I got it for $49 USD.

>>61837466
Notebooksbilliger. You can either order or go to the store (Sarstedt)

>>61837489

haha... true

>>61837489
Facts

>>61837490

That's so hot!

>>61836846
For the price I'd say you did fine. Switching the screen isn't hard but you should know that the original IPS displays all suffer from ghosting

>>61836846
Maybe you can get the seller to refund a small portion of money if the rest of the laptop meets the description.

So there are no official 9-cell batteries for the x220t/x230t, how are the third party ones?

I took apart my thinkpad yesterday and now my trackpad + mouse buttons is not working.

The keyboard and trackPOINT still works fine.;

WHAT DO

Are the laptops from minifree worth it?

>>61836482
ktgee however mentions that:
"Latitude E5000 series and others = ThinkPad L-series/Edge Series
Latitude E4000/E6000 series = ThinkPad main X/T Series"
sounds like E5570 would be worse quality compared with the W550s, or no?

>>61837517
Thanks boyfriend, I'll check it out.

>>61835533

Make my own Ryzen apu motherboard ;^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Best way to hide a joint in the ultrabay slot of the t430s?

So I just repasted my X220 but my idle CPU temps are still 45C/115F, I was hoping it would help but it didn't seem to do too much.

Any tips?

>>61838188
There's nothing wrong with those temps

>>61837883
the Dell Precisions are more comparable to the W-series

>>61838188
You're fine bro, newer Thinkshits gets 53ºC idle

>>61838188
>complaining about 45c

are you a retard?

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T450
> i5 5300U
> 256GB SSD
> 8GB of RAM
> 768p display
> $600
Is this a good deal? Please respond

Hey guys, I don't wanna be a shitnoob, but why buy a thinkpad over a meme "gamer" laptop, considering for the same price gaymen laptops have better CPUs and aren't stuck with integrated graphics?

>this general used to be about buying thinkpad T420's and lower

>now its infested with people paying 600$ for chinkpads

>>61838285
Yes this is my first laptop I've only had desktops so far

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I have a problem... i can't stop buying thinkpads.

>>61838376
45c is pretty good. My X230 idles at 50c and goes up to 85c under load.

>>61838407
Thats a sign of autism, autties love spending tax dollars on collecting certain things

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Hello tpg. Got this T61 (later version? Has bigger keyboard bezels than other T61s online and has vista sticker) for $40 today with office dock thing on the right. It is in mint condition, even with all original instructions. Everything works on it, there is no dust, cracks, etc. It was used in a hospital which just gave out upgrades. Is it worth enough to sell? Where is the best place to sell it? EBay doesn't seem to be the scene, I'm not really sure about craigslist. Are there any thinkpad classifieds sites? I already have a laptop with Gnu/Linux and don't need it necessarily.

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>>61838358
> gamer laptop
There's a few problem with those:
> Garbage build quality
> No serviceable parts available ever
> Shitty drivers
> No battery life
> Most of them have a shitty display

> B-But muh dedicated GPU
Intel Graphics already overperforms most old/low-end GPUs, many "gaymen" laptops are literally slower than a Haswell iGPU.
Are you going to game on it? What games? If it's League of Legends/Dota tier, Intel graphics maxes it out, if it's GTA V tier, you may want a desktop, since gaming laptops that decently plays it are really expensive.

Is there even that much difference in performance between x220, x230, x240 if they're all kitted out with an i5, SSD, and 6-8gb of ram?

>>61838508
there's a massive difference in graphics performance between X220 and X230 . performance dropped for the 40 series because they started using Ultrabook CPUS

>>61838421

no I think we're all a bunch of thinkfags... is all.

>>61838500
>Garbage build quality

I'm not a child, I wont brake it.

>No serviceable parts available ever

A google search proves you wrong.

>Shitty drivers

Not true at all.

>No battery life

Not one of my priorities.

>Most of them have a shitty display

Most of them have nice IPS displays.

>if it's GTA V tier, you may want a desktop, since gaming laptops that decently plays it are really expensive

No it's not, a gaymen laptop with a 1050 costs just as much as a thinkpad equivalent, but brings a better processor on top.

>>61838568
>No it's not, a gaymen laptop with a 1050 costs just as much as a thinkpad equivalent, but brings a better processor on top.
show me the $350 laptop with a quadcore CPU, dedicated GPU, and screen superior to the W520's

protip: it doesn't exist

>>61838605
I was referring to the ~900 euro range.

>>61838568
>I'm not a child, I wont brake it.
you will feel it though. you will feel the palmrest give in, you will feel the keyboard bend, the hinges will wear and make your screen wobble etc
>A google search proves you wrong.
so on the gaymen laptop you chose you can swap every part of the case, and almost every internal component?
>Not true at all.
True compared to Thinkpad drivers
>None of my priorities
that's OK
>Most of them have nice IPS displays
yep. I don't know why people try to bash gaymen laptops in that regard

Can I install gentoo on a T430 without any problems concerning hardware? All I found was a driver issue for the wifi but I am concerned that there may be a worse problem.

>>61838645
up until 30 series linux support was absolutely excellent. just check if you have the right wifi card, everything else works out of the box, except maybe dgpu drivers because these are shit on loonix

>>61838641
I wont be using the laptop while riding a tractor.

>swap every part of the case, and almost every internal component

Nobody ever needs to do that.

>True compared to Thinkpad drivers

Drivers are still functional.

>>61838619
you've come to the wrong place if you think /tpg/ has ever advocated buying new thinkpads

they're overpriced for regular consumers, businesses get the good deals and we get better deals from them a couple years later

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>>61838605
> Quadro 1000M
> pic related
Literally beaten by fanless pi tier MacBook

>>61838686
What do you do if you can't get a deal?

>>61838529

Much difference between getting an i5 or an i7?

>>61838605
You may find a Lenovo y510p with single gt755m, i7 4700mq and ips 1080p for that money. Plays overwatch and GTA V just fine.
>>61838641
Not him, but both in new thinkpads and gaming laptops processors are soldered. Most gaming laptops let you replace ram and ssd, except some models, which you don't have to buy, since there are ones that let you.

>>61838678
>Nobody ever needs to do that.
ha... hahahaha
>Drivers are still functional.
Yeah well a 20 year old Yugo might still be functional for driving to the grocery store, but would you want that?

has anyone gotten displayport working on their t420? From what I understand I have to use the nvidia to use external displays. Fucked up installing bumblebee and broke my install. Kept booting to a "oh no, something has gone wrong" screen. Removed all the nvidia/bumblee shit and reran mkinitcpio and it went back to normal luckily. I don't care about games I just want to watch anime on the tv when I'm at my moms house.

>>61838720
the only thing I know for sure is that the i7 gets significantly hotter and uses more battery than the i5. I've heard that the difference in performance doesn't justify that but I haven't tested it myself

>>61838744
>ha... hahahaha

Not an argument.

>would you want that

If it does what it's supposed to I would want that.

So far the only argument to getting a chinkpad is build quality.

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Before someone even points out

>ChinkPad
>Gaymens

What games can a t420 run and handle perfectly, just fine or with no to little issue/probem?

Usually doesn't run this toasty, I was playing a game that day

>>61838407
Nice display, is that IPS? What resolution?

How does MacOS perform on it?

>>61838829
Chronicon.

>>61838778
>So far the only argument to getting a chinkpad is build quality.
Why do you think that's not important? Are you really okay with replacing your laptop every year not because you need better specs or due to any internal component failure but because the cheap-ass case or keyboard gave up on you or allowed the laptop to take damage that could've been avoided?

>>61833645
>NON-GAY-WEEABOO EDITION!
dropped

So I'm looking to get a thinkpad since I need a laptop. Trying to stay around $150 USD. Been looking between something like the T430 or the X230. Any pros/cons between the two? Or any other models I should take a look at?

>>61838751
Display port works fine for me. I dont have a GPU though

>>61838960
T430 - more modular, higher screen resolution
X230 - better battery life, better screen quality
basically the same otherwise

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>>61838761

Thanks, just bought it. £200 isn't too shabby for the UK I think. 256gb ssd.

Also why someone felt the need to stick 16gb of ram in there I don't know.

>>61837490
Where to buy?

I ordered a refurbished X220, how likely is it that they redid the thermal paste?

>>61839062
Wouldn't bet on it. "Refurbished" usually means "we cleaned the exterior and made sure it turns on", if even that much.

Can someone link me to a good lelnovo-certified wifi card to replace the 6205 in my T520?

I have an spi flasher to rewrite bios if I must get a modded one to use a non-lelnovo certified card, but I'd rather not.

>>61839062
I bought a refurbished T420.
The paste was overflowed into cracks and shit and was old as shit.

Might be a good idea to just clear out the fan and redo the paste

>>61839080
What paste should I order if the temps are high?

What's the make and model for the T61 IPS display?

t460 coming tomorrow boys :)

what linux should I use?

>>61839113
hannah montana linux

Is there any chance of lenovo moving to a different aspect ratio? I hate 16:9. Microsoft Apple and Google all have laptops with a more square aspect ratio other companies should do the same thing.

>>61838845

Yes it's a IPS at the standard 1366x768 for a x220. Mac OSX runs pretty smooth and fast on it... i do have a 256 ssd though., don't think it would be this smooth if it was a regular hdd.

>>61839156
1:1 aspect ratio laptops when?

>>61839012

16gb.. that's a bonus :)

>>61839156
it should be done but I don't know how we could ever convince lenovo
they should bring back 16:10 or opt for 3:2

>>61839113

since you bought new i doubt you'll be putting gentoo on there.

>>61839210
It's 2nd hand

Mint or Ubuntu?

>>61839173
Can I get a 768p IPS display for the T450? I dont want the FullHD one

I've got a T510 with an I7 M620 2.67ghz, 6gb of RAM and nvidia NVS 3100m with the 1080p screen

Is this a good thinkpad? Should I swap any parts/upgrade it?

>>61839633
and a 256gb SSD, I think I should just replace the keyboard and battery

>>61839633
>T510
It's shit

>>61839633
T510's a nice machine. I'm not sure it's worth replacing the battery, they're pretty expensive and you will never get more than a couple hours out of that configuration, even with a new genuine 9cell.

Are idle temperatures of 52 to 65°C abnormal for the T470 with an i7? I feel like that's kinda hot.

>>61839653
why is it shit? It seems like the fully loaded model

>>61839694
even if I can get an after market one?

Can I install Libreboot after installing my distro, or do I have to install it beforehand?

>>61839741
Third-party batteries won't be any better than genuine. Your configuration is simply very power-hungry. I've got a lower-specced T510 with an i5 and 900p screen and it's lucky to last more than an hour and a half on its ~75% genuine 9cell. You might fare better if your model has Optimus, but mine doesn't. The iGPU is just completely disabled and unusable, so that old Nvidia dGPU is always blazing away.

I can get a T400 for $90. Is this alright value?

>>61839812
Has anyone rebuilt batteries or made their own external batteries for Thinkpads? I haven't read into the locked battery codes or whatever's they are but I wonder if the DIY external battery idea is viable.

>>61839012
You can't ever have enough ram niggro

>>61839888
yes if its in good condition

What's the latest news on libreboot for Sandy thinkpads my famicoms? Did they get the ME fully neutralised yet? Last I heard they got ME blob functioning at only 80kB.

An X230 isn't worth $100 more than an X220, is it? Assume i5 and 4gb ram, no ssd.

Worth it?
http://www.laptopcloseout.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x230

Nooby question, but... if I install Arch on an SSD using my X200, can I later transfer the SSD to a T400 I've ordered without any trouble?

>>61837827
take it apart again but this time plug everything back in like you were supposed to

>>61838712
There's always a deal. I'd wager most people here got their thinkpads sub-200 USD

>>61839091
To remove the whitelist you only need a modded BIOS, which can be done via software.

>>61841257
i don't because third world and import fees

feels bad

>>61835533
The girl on the left strikes me as such a qt

>tfw no amused looking qt with a thinkpad to shitpost and install gentoo with

>>61833645
howd i do?
>t440s
>$389
>upgraded from 256gb 2.5" ssd to 256gb m.2 ssd + spare 500gb hdd, 8gb ram -> 12gb. looking to do the ips 1080 display swap

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>>61841999
fuck me

>>61838829
>using windows on a chinkpad
openmw
GTA 4

>>61838678
>he doesn't want to keep one laptop for 3+ years and swap parts as they need to

why live

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what thinkpad is the most popular on /tpg/?

>order t520 with a 256gb ssd to give to my dad for $150.
>arrives and has a 1080 ips screen and is in excellent condition.
>tfw I want to keep it for myself even though I have a desktop laptop already.
I fell for the Thinkpad meme and love it. I've never used Linux before and it came with a fresh install of Mint. Kind of want to keep it to just to learn a new os.
Seems like a waste of a fine machine for my dad to use for no more than a few hours a week.

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>>61838359
>hey guys, why aren't you poor like me anymore?
>guys pls

>>61841999
>ulv processor
what a waste

>>61842336
I had the same experience. Bought myself a $20 T40 "as-is" for memery (already had an X61t). Got my dad a T440 at the same time as a replacement for his old work latitude. Installed mint on it so he could transition from Windows. My T40 was DOA with a fucked mobo. Felt a little envious of leaving the t440 with him.

But you gotta be good to your daddy, boy. Leave it with him. How would you feel if your dad took back a laptop he gave to you?

What SSD should I buy for my X220?

>>61842417
Is this cow2beef?

>>61842626
>But you gotta be good to your daddy, boy. Leave it with him. How would you feel if your dad took back a laptop he gave to you?
He doesn't even know I got it, planning to give it to him for his birthday. He uses a Dell desktop from the 90's most of the time for work, so I could easily grab a cheap consumer laptop or lesser thinkpad off Craigslist and he'd be fine.
I'll spend a few days debating my morality.

>>61842754
msata 850 evo

>>61842834
How much faster is msata than a regular ssd?

>>61842808
If hes anything like my dad he will be happy with any old thing. Found a intel atom netbook with a locked bios someone was throwing away. Dad has an old vaio from 2002 hes been using on xp since it was new. Asked him if he wanted the netbook and he loved it. Its got a big dumb handle on it and its super light so he uses a usb endoscope to help him do construction work (to see into pipes and walls).

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does anybody have the #/tpg/ telegram?

Hooked my wiimote up to my thinkpad using cwiid and using it to read visual novels in a xp vm. Doesn't get much comfier than this.

Can a ThinkPad take an M.2 SSD?

>>61842942
nope

>>61842960
fug

T430 or X220?

>>61842834
Why mSata, it seems like regular is easier to install.

>>61842942
yes from *40 series onwards

>>61842856
It's not, in fact an msata ssd will have less than a normal one because the msata port on the *20 only runs at sata2 speed. You won't notice the difference in daily usage anyway.

>>61843048
probably to have the option of running msata ssd + storage hdd for your rare pepes

>>61833645
>le thinkpads are good maymay
Sage

>>61843109
Then I'll save $5 and 5 minutes and get a standard SATA III one, thanks for the help.

>>61842988
>big laptop or small laptop?

>>61842988
T430 if you don't know what you want and don't mind the TN display. X220 if you want small form factor or IPS display.

How many RAM slots on an X220? What's the most likely RAM setup if I buy a 4GB one used?

>>61843185
2 up to 2x8gb
a single 4g ram stick probably, i haven't seen a 4gb stick of ddr3 ram in ages.

>>61843221
>i haven't seen a 4gb stick
meant 2gb

>>61843221
Can it run 12GB with a 4 and an 8?

>>61843338
yes but i'd rather have 8 because 4+8 triggers my autism

>>61839267

ubuntu - i had issue with mint when i put it on a x61.

>>61843360
It's more so I can cheap out and only buy one stick.

>>61839502

wrong size, won't fit.>>61839633

>>61839633

how does it have a 1080p screen in it?

Anyone installed wins 7 on the newer laptops? I won't get fucked over would I?

>>61843456
This is what I'm planning on doing when my X230 arrives. I've only needed 8gb on my desktop, 12gb would be plenty. Then if you want 16gb down the road, you only need to buy another 8gb stick.

>>61843613
Is this bait
Windows is trash no matter what computer you put it on. Yes, even Win7

>>61843654
Exactly.

>>61843613
Should work fine, aside from being Windows.

>>61843688
I am indeed a pleb.

>>61843360
>>61843654
How stupid would it be to get a stick of 8GB 1600mHz? It will just throttle to 1333 to match the 4GB until I get a second stick of 1600, right?

>>61843816
It'll throttle to 1333mhz no matter what if you're using the stock bios. You can use up to 1866mhz ram with the same modded bios that removes the whitelist to change the wlan card and gives you extra options in the BIOS.

Poorfag unifag here
I am going balls deep into college again so i will need something to carry my shit around.
Recommend me a good model that wont let me down and wont jew my wallet.

>>61843905
x220 with ips screen

>>61843853
Link to the modded bios for when I get my second stick?

>Thunderbolt 3
>Quad core CPU
>NO discrete graphics

What is there that fits the above? Everything I've found is either dual core or has a GPU shoehorned in there.

>>61835533
I've put 8 years into an x200 as a backend dev and it's still fine for the job. Hardware doesn't have much room to grow absent some paradigm shift in processor fab so I'm not worried. I've got tons of extra parts on hand too so I imagine I can keep this thing running for several decades if I really want to.

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>Budget:
~$350

>Location:
Colorado Springs, CO

>Size:
14-15 in preferred

>Performance:
Probably the most demanding thing I will be doing is playing overwatch when traveling for work.
Maybe some VMs, but I can always add RAM if I need to.

>Other requirements:
Smart card reader, if it's a thing.

Thanks, /tpg/

>>61843500

idk bruh it just does, bought it off a guy who got it from lenovo fully loaded pretty much

>>61844103
Resoltuon is 1920x1080, maybe its 1080i? idk but its fuking sick

im gonna replace the keyboard end of month

>>61841139

Yes i've been doing that with good success.

>>61843757
I suggest Debian GNU/Linux.
Runs wonderfully on Thinkpads, and is one of the most user-friendly and stable GNU/Linux distributions around.

How do I reapply thermal paste on an X220?

It seems like the most popular models here are the T420 and X220, why is that?

>>61844329
They're powerful enough to act as a general "on the go" machine and quite cheap.
I would wager that most of /g/ isn't very wealthy.

>>61838686
So what should we buy as consumers?
Say I have <900 to spend on a laptop to last me 4+ years of Uni.

Is a new thinkpad still bad?`

>>61844375
>I would wager that most of /g/ isn't very wealthy.
>tfw $3000 workstation
>$150 ThinkPad
>$200 smartphone
Truly the comfiest way to live.

>>61844390
used thinkpad + upgrades would be better

>>61837827
There's a separate cable for the trackpad and its buttons, it should be near the underside of the buttons.

>>61844424
but wouldn't a new machine have significantly longer life?

What is the consensus on the T420s? I've been looking for one but haven't gotten any advice except that
>Lol it's shit
Why? Also, what are the temps like? Battery life? Anyone know?

>>61844471
No.

>>61844411
If you don't travel for work much, then that's a pretty optimal solution.

I spend a week+ away traveling for work, so I'm probably gonna spend more on my laptop just to have full capabilities.

>>61844390
> last me 4+ years of Uni
Trying to buy for the future is never a good plan. The pace of technology will outdo your initial investment. You also run the risk of it getting broken/stolen, and then you're out a big chunk of change.

Just buy what suits you now. Spend like ~$450, save the other $450, and buy a newer laptop or upgrade it in 2 years.

If you're bringing your desktop to college with you, you probably won't use the laptop for much beyond basic tasks.

>>61839103
Arctic Silver 5 just werks

getting quite a lot of electric shocks from my t420 lads, slightly concerning desu but too poor to do anything about it..

>>61844496
That's actually why I've been thinking about upgrading my ThinkPad, 16gb 1600, 250gb SSD, new 44+ 9-cell.

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>>61842332
T/Xx20 or T/Xx30 I'd imagine.

>>61842332
T420
X220
X201
X200

>>61844496
I was considering buying a T440/s used for ~500 (Require FHD) but a new T470 is """"just"" 300 more. Including the SSD and FHD display.

Well my budget is probably going to be limited to just 1K overall (Desktop + Laptop).
Spending the bare minimum for a laptop ~300 and leaving 600 on a desktop rig is an option. But I don't know if that would be more or less convenient than buying a more premium laptop and going without a Desktop.
I feel that I might neglect my desktop if I had an adequate laptop.

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orly?

>tfw cleaning my ThinkPad with soap and water
Is there any better feeling?

>>61844623
The $1k is for both computers?
Spend $750 on a desktop and $250 on the thinkpad. Your desktop dollars will go so much farther.

If you put the money in your desktop and get a decent CPU, you can just drop a newer graphics card in 2 or 3 years when it starts to show its age.
The laptop is not going to age as well and will also not be upgradeable. Get as small of a laptop as you're comfortable so it's not a pain to haul around.

I can promise you that you're not going to be using your laptop for much more than documents, 4chinz, and videos. You're not going to be doing whatever heavy duty stuff you think you will be, on the go. All I've seen is retards bringing their machines into class and playing video games, and you sure as fuck don't want to go down that road.

>>61844661
>that mousepad

>>61844757
W-what's the problem with my mousepad?

>>61844763
too ideal

>>61844757
Alright anon. You've made me reconsider my options for the fourth time in a month.
Ill have to go back and see what my options would be for Desktop and Laptop hardware.

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>There is not tablet version for the T420

>tfw refurbished X220 for $148
>9-cell battery $74
>250GB SSD $103
>Thermal paste $7
>8GB single stick $60
>getting a $400 laptop with 12GB RAM, an i5, 8+ hours of battery life, and an SSD
>and it's nearly unbreakable
ThinkPads really are the best after all.

>>61844757
>tfw t440p as portable and main docked computer
If someone steals my laptop i'm fucked. At least it's encrypted and my data resides on my NAS.

>>61844837
>tfw $400 now but you an i3 and 4GB RAM in a fuckhuge 15.6" case
>breaks if you drop it/spill shit
ehhhhh

>>61844763
Where did you get it?

Been days since I started searching/waiting for a good x220 tablet to pop up on ebay. Give me strength guys, will I be able to find a good deal ;_;

my mom wants a laptop for business, I don't know shit about laptops, only desktops but my first thought was a thinkpad. What model should I get her? I read the used thinkpad buyers guide in the OP and the t510 seems like it would suit her needs. And is there a proper vendor for used laptops or should I just get one off of amazon?

>>61834876
T440p

>B140HAN01.3 = 90%+ sRGB 1080p IPS, 1000:1 CR
>4th gen intel

>>61844943
Does it really need to be the tablet version?

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>>61838407

I know the feel

>X201, X220, X230, X250
>T420, T430, T440p
>T520, T530

Who else?

>>61845208
I already have a T530 and soon to be mine T420, so I was thinking that the tablet version will be a great member to welcome to the family.

>>61844943
Good luck! I believe in you!

>>61845229
Fair enough, I hope you find one. Porter's Electronics has a decent deal on refurbished non-tablet X220 which is why I asked.

>>61844483
I get a little over 4.5 hours on my 6cell if I lower the brightness to 33%. temps are 55c under load (watching youtube with a vm or two open) and much lower the rest of the time. Only thing I dislike is the screen. its not ips

So I got in a new HDD to use for my thinkpad. I also need to install a fresh copy of windows 7 onto that new hdd. Anything to look out for? I kee seeing posts online about how you don't really get drivers when you fresh install so you can't connect to the internet or even use usbs?

>>61844329
>>61844375
>I would wager that most of /g/ isn't very wealthy.
I'm selective of what I spend money on. There are a bunch of other hobbies and things I want pursue, and usually every time I find something new, I read all I can about it online and figure out the most cost effective entry without being too cheap. It's kind of like a fun game for me now and I learn a lot.
I'll be travelling away from home for a year and won't have access to my nice desktop, I could have shelled out for an $800 gaymen laptop with meh specs but I'm opting for the thinkpad, sacrificing graphics power but it's much more affordable and I like that I can order replacement parts instead of dealing with warranty repairs.
>>61844837
You can get cheaper 8gb sticks, check amazon or ebay ~$40

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Would the T420 be a good laptop to take to class for note taking?

My T400 is arriving today I'm so excited anons! I used to have one but it got stolen. Ahhh the adorable bento box design! And the smell too. I remember it having a distinct flowery smell. It's so nostalgic reminiscing about it.

>>61845869
I'm going to be lugging my T400 around college as well. I hope it's not going to be too heavy.

>>61837417
;____; yeah I know

just got X220 in from ebay, and the right side yellow usb port doesnt work.

ther rest is fine but i honestly dont want to have to return it and go through the whole wait to get my money back then buy another one for it to be fucked up worse.

should i ask for a discount? i only paid $80 for it.

>>61844061
>Smart card reader,
what the fuck for?

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>Toshiba Satellite P50D-C-104, the variant without gpu
>AMD A10-8700P Carizzo
>8gb RAM
>1080p IPS
>250gb SSD
>harman/kardon speakers
>used for youtube, listening to music, internet browsing, occasionally writing documents

Quick, would you buy this for about $600? I bought it for about $700 on sale last year, original price being over $1000.
I have barely used it, only for a couple of hours last summer. It's completely scratch free and feels as fresh as out of the box.
Price includes a strong carrying case, charger and a small mouse. She already seems interested in the deal but I feel a background anxiety, like I'm losing cash spent on it.

>>61846761
toshiba builds excellent laptops sometimes, this one's not it
tough luck, it's worth $150 tops

>>61846788
>tough luck
No Anon I mean she's already up for it. I just don't know if it's worth it to sell, I feel like I'm losing money I spent on it. But since I don't use it at all...right?

>>61846853
You already lost 1k if you sell it you only lost 400. Sell it and buy a nice memepad so you can shitpost.

>>61846867
I think I agree. And there's not gonna be a better opportunity to make money back, right? I've literally had zero offers on it before, only able to sell to this person because her laptop recently broke, oure coincidence.

Anyone stream games from their desktop to their Thinkpad? I just want one able to handle high res vid with a 1080 IPS and for it to be able to handle a stream from a windows pc and I don't know how demanding that is.

>>61846931
Also, any IPS display pads with screens that can become a tablet (e.g. can open all the way until it touches the battery or it can twist 180 and come back down like the tablet pads can)

>>61846867
He bought it for 700 and is selling for 600?

Looking for something that I can use for some programming shit at school.
Budget: Like $250 CAD max ($200 USD roughly) If something around $150 CAD ($120 USD) is sufficient I would prefer it.
Location: Ontario Canada
Size: 15.6 inch max. Would prefer 1080p
Performance: Microsoft Visual Studio (school requirement), eclipse, libre office, video.
Other requirements: Don't mind doing upgrades if it is cheaper.

t400 vs t410
does the t410 have any advantages

>>61847121
how is microsoft visual studio a school requirement

>>61847357
Dont even ask, its retarded.

>>61847366
well thanks for keeping me curious

>>61847420
Teacher is actually special and requires us to use Visual Studio to ensure we are doing it right...

>>61847121
Alienware

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>not being Thinkpad elite

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Can't wait for my x220 to arrive next week.

What's the first few essential mods I should do to it?

What is a Thinkpad?
What makes it better than a laptop?
Why not a Macbook like everyone else?

>>61847650
the best laptop
being a thinkpad
because it's homosexual shit held with glue and it's not a thinkpad

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>>61847650
>not wanting to constantly explain to people that you aren't actually using a 30 year old computer
>not wanting to justify your purchase of discarded office surplus to macintosh enthusiasts

It's like you hate subtlety seeking attention and signaling unwarranted superiority through your contrary material devices.

>>61847691
Does it have better screens?
Better performance?

>>61847705
yes
yes

>>61847717
At a better price?

>>61847754
only better performance then

>>61847754
also best linux support
I gotta give it to macs for their screens they are amazing but apple played it smart so they had more money to put to making good displays

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Thinking of getting a second ThinkPad with Windows XP for playing old Windows games (00 to 05) on, what should I get?

>>61847700
>ThinkPad
>Contrary
Almost every professor in my department at the university uses a ThinkPad. And I am not even in computer science. Also in my university there is a laptop borrowing service where you put 300 euros or so as safety deposit and they lend you a ThinkPad. How come it is contrarian?

>>61847932
Exactly. To normal people, they're stodgy, outdated work computers forced upon them by employers who aren't trendy. Why would you ever willingly buy a lenovo?

What's /tpg/ consensus on the t440p? I read a few threads about Thinkpads and it seems that the *40 series is quite disliked.

>>61844661
I like you anon

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>>61845869
>>61846083
just make sure you get some decent stickers

>>61848780
>maximum autism
>overt power levels
>no stealth
0/10 if you actually take your TP outside.

>>61848780
I want to hotglue this tp

>>61848320
>Outdated
>Used in the top university in Germany
weak b8 m8

>>61838407
It's not a problem until you run out of money

My X220 battery died this morning, battery indicator flashes green 3 times and then it shows orange for a few seconds. I got this battery from lenovo 1.5 year ago for turning in my old one, which was explosive, back to them. Am I screwed or is there any way to reset battery software?

>>61845497
>cheaper 8GB
Yeah but I'm getting 1600mhz for later upgrading.

I bought a T420 from a cute girl. She had preinstalled debian on it, and a gnu sticker on the palmrest. I still have her number. Should I marry her?

>>61846419
>only paid $80
Just replace it yourself

>>61847121
https://www.porterelectronics.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-2-5ghz-i5/
>tfw bought one two days ago
>they added free shipping this morning
Suffering.

>>61847650
See
>>61844837

How long do I have to wait for a better T430 screen?

I've been searching across UK sites for any decent replacement screen but they're all compatible versions and I don't know how to go about risking that shit. Are the only current solutions the Carbon X1 and that Alienware screen?

>>61834947
Wallpaper on the left?

T420 / T420S or T440? Programming and shitposting.

>>61850083
If you can cope with not having dedicated Trackpoint buttons, go for the T440.
But if a T440 is within your price range, a T450 is too. Get one of those.

newfag and future unifag here looking for first laptop.
I've spotted an X230 8gb ram, 320gb hdd, i5-3320M 2.60GHz for €200
but someone suggested a macbook air ( >>61834008 ). What's the deal with them? I've found a macbook air 11 with a battery that needs to be replaced for €300.
Are these prices ok? And what's with macbooks?

>>61838696
>cpuboss
>ever
POO

Looking at the x220, possibly the tablet version, to accompany my t410. Is dual core alright? Is it better on battery life? Any recommended places to look?

>>61844939
I got it custom-made from a guy. It's in Brazil though.

>>61847877
G41 for that sweet housefire grade performance.

>>61850398
>X230 8GB i5
>€200
That's a great deal

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>tfw your laptop is stuck in customs hell
th-thanks, lenovo, i didn't want it soon anyways

>>61850398
me again, I suggested it because usually you would want something light, fast and portable. usually ThinkPads are cheaper than applel products but if you actually wanted to make friends with non-autists and if your uni used examsoft (which supposedly runs like shit under windowns but works fine under macOS) you woulf definitely be better off with a macbook. you can hackintosh an X230 iirc but usually this isnt as stable as using an actual macbook. so just ask your uni teachers whether or not they'll use examsoft in the future and get a laptop accordingly.

>>61850855
>tfw ordered from domestic seller
It's used and the guy will only ship it Monday, but I'll have it sooner than you :^)

is there any below 300 dollar reliable laptop/tablet that has a great battery life and a processor capable of reading my 700 page textbooks pdf files perfectly?
I don't mind it being refurbished and it would be nice if it was lightweight tho not necessary especially after i heard that hp and dell budget laptops are super bloated and their processors can't do shit

>>61833645
Just wondering, guys. How many of you really use the trackpoint thingy? Isn't it a meme now that Thinkpads also have a standard touchpad?

x220 or x230?

>my dad's company stoped using thinkpads and is now using hp laptops
really makes me think

>>61851159
I do, because it makes my gf wet.

>>61851179
My company uses a mix of surfaces, Toshiba Tecras, Thinkpads (but only shit ones like E's) and Dells.

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>tfw realized maxing out 2570p isn't such a good idea

My t400 screen hinges are getting loose, how do I fix it?

>>61850589
I guess I'll lurk around the general a bit more while still looking for offers, then I'll pull the trigger
>>61850883
Thank you again

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>>61851386
>wasn''t*
If anyone from /tpg/ is planning to get eGPU - fucking don't.
Upgrade your wifi card to ac or use wired network and stream gaymes from desktop pc/home server. eGPUs are NOT mobile and being forced to always disable v-sync in gaymes is lame.
Also having 9000 drives in one laptop is stupid. It's best to store all multimedia files and gaymes remotely, on NAS for example.

Anyone here use a P51 in their lap?

I ask because it looks way too T H I C C

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>>61847877
Your studio monitor placement triggers me.

I've had my T430 for one and a half days and I love it. Threw in an SSD to replace the HGST 500G HDD. Will eventually replace the cd drive with a HDD caddy and put back the HDD. It has 4G of RAM which is plenty for me. Might upgrade it to 8G if I find a good deal.

Other than that all I can say is thanks /tpg/. Now I'm just gonna wait for the raven ridge thinkpads to come out end if this year or beginning of next.

>>61851612
upgrade the processor, keyboard and display resolution

>>61851644
>>61851644
>upgrade the processor
More powerful than my previous laptop (i5-2250 or whatever is called).

>keyboard
I thought I wasn't going to like the chiclet, but the Lenovo chiclet keyboard is great. Miles better than any other chiclet keyboard I tried (Dell, Apple, Asus, HP).

>and display resolution
Again, better than my previous laptop (1366x768). Besides 1600x900 is the highest the T430 goes.

>>61851417
Where are you getting that price?

>>61852175
Using subito.it, a site for selling 2nd hand everything. I bought a really good bike for €200 a month ago from that site.
In Italy basically nobody uses craigslist (atleast for selling computers).

>>61845219

Here's my list:

4 x t400
2 x t420
2 x x220
1 x x220 tablet
1 x x200 tablet (had 2 sold one)
1 x t430

>>61852537
how are the x220 tablets?

>>61849170

Nope not running out of money... all my purchase averages about $60 USD.

>>61852568

Pretty nice... i haven't use it a lot but they are comfy for drawing. I really like the rotate button on it.

>>61852607
does it work well with GNU/Linux? I'm kinda torn between the x200t and x220t, not sure if the extra processing power will matter since they are both dual core.

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anybody knows how to fix this broken scroll button

>>61849322
The cheap sticks are 1600hz.

>>61852727
apply directly to forehead

>>61852746
I can't find them, got a link?

>>61852688

yeah i have ubuntu on the x220t currently. The pen and everything works fine.

>>61852772
http://r.ebay com/2soeNF
Try this one

>>61852915
Thanks

Where can I download the BIOS that lets me have 16GB of 1600mHz on an X220?

>>61837653
i'm also interested.
anyone tried this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/201392457166

>>61853035

You can download the latest bios on lenovo's site. Do you need a modified bios?

>>61853841
I didn't realize it was an official one, sweet.

>>61853841
I can't find it, maybe I'm retarded.

>>61853841
Yes you need the modded one to unlock 1600mhz and above, the same one that gives you extra options and removes the chinknovo whitelist.

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can you detach the screen of this laptop ?

>>61854001
Where can I get it?

>>61854030
No idea.

I only keep the ones for the T420 and T520 because the x220 never caught my attention. Sorry.

>>61854030
https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Solved-X220-v1-42-Modified-BIOS

>>61854001

here ya go.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/94m8c5jdt2yoaft/X220+v1.43+Modified+BIOS.zip

>>61836159
I poured a cup of cold water on my t420s, the drainage system didn't work and the board was soaked but it still works after drying it

>>61854218
Thanks m8

>>61854716
you're welcome... i recently upgrade to that bios to do my hackintosh so it was fresh in my mind.