Poojit Pai says you don't NEED fast internet

>>61824906
What in the name of fuck is that hideous URL?

>le olde mobile broadband snakeoil meme

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what kind of geriatric fogey reads Slashdot in the current year? Here's a better link:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/08/maybe-americans-dont-need-fast-home-internet-service-fcc-suggests/

>>61824906
>fake news misquotes someone out of context again
Nothing to see here.

>>61825504
t. pajeet

>>61825504
the article title is a reasonable extrapolation from the document
the document is basically about how the FCC is supposed to be assessing deployment of broadband across the country and asking if they canlower the bar for what constitutes broadband (which in their definition is currently 25mbps down) and count cellular networks (making the deployment look much better than it is)

Just create your own ISP.

>>61825504
>fake news
Trump supporter in denial as usual

The mental hoops Trump supporters use to agree with these policies makes me laugh

>>61824906
>>61825223
Even rural Africa has faster speeds then this available without caps.

>>61824906
Can't wait for the great American shoa on this website

>>61824906
Whatever King Donald's henchmen say they are right. People used 56k for many years. I'm ready for my ISDN and 500MB datacap in 2019.

you don't

480p video on youtube is like 1.5mbit

720p is around 3.5mbit

what more do you fucking need?

>>61826895

The YouTube/Netflix app in my television displays 4k.
4k on a 75" display from 10' away is just short of nirvana.

You'd have to pry that from my cold dead hands.

>>61826895
+ human eye cannot see 4k or more than 24fps.

It's ok to admit he's a shithead, Drumpfkins.
Trump fires all his appointees after a few weeks and tweets about how incompetent and treacherous they are. At which point all the little Drumpfkins agree. You'd just be jumping the gun by a few days.

you dont need "super" fast internet. know the difference lib shill

>>61826999
The troll's eye cannot see more than an opportunity for a cheap laugh.

>>61827139
You don't even need "fast" internet agent provokateur.

>amerifats won't pollute the internet
perfect

>>61826895
I never understood meme logic like this.

As technology advances, we're always going to improve in one way or another. We're never gonna say "Okay. Good enough. We can stop here" because that's lazy and pointless. Eventually what's new today will be retro tech tomorrow.

>>61824906

He's got a point. Not everyone is a typical /g/ user. It's difficult to justify rolling out 25Mb internet to rural areas when the vast majority of people with access to 25Mb don't purchase it anyway.

This isn't the telephone era. The marginal benefit of going from 3 Mbps DSL to 25Mb cable isn't anywhere close to going from nothing to having phone service.

>>61825850
>he takes the word of entertainment companies at face value
enjoy the clickbait

>>61827280
So why not upgrade the medium when there is need for it?
Why build roads before there are enough cars to justify it?
Why build cities that no one can afford to live in?

>>61827280
That's called expanding too fast and wasting money, and is why you're a neet and someone else is a billionaire

>>61827337
That's boomer logic. The ratio of people who use the internet for all of their entertainment and business is only growing.

>>61827565
>only growing

Entertainment and business doesn't require 150 Mb/s.

>>61827574
>business doesn't require 150 Mb/s
You're right, business requires multiple 10 Gb/s connections at each location.

>>61827565
And who is going to pay for it?

>>61827583
They require that because they need uninterrupted access compared to public lines. They never use all that speed.

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>>61827593
The businesses pay for it and then they charge their customers to use it.

>>61827604
So you're suggesting they accept interrupted access because it's "too fast for church"?

>>61827611
Well unless there is competition, expect to start paying more...

>>61827562
why are you shilling for an ISP who would slit your throat for an extra nickel on their stock price?

>>61827621
You're going somewhere else with your post now. The gist of it is that we have the most speed we'd ever need until quantum computing takes off.

>>61827626
I'm not shilling for shit. I'm telling you the reality of internet usage. Today's internet could operate as low as 2 Mb and only people like you guys and online gamers would be annoyed.

>>61827648
We're a year or two away from 4K being affordable enough for the general public.

>>61827626
Because I have lots of money invested in stocks.

>>61827697
4K is the worst meme in the world and it's only something being pushed by tech companies because they've reached the diminishing returns of tech / entertainment ratio. Most people are okay with staying at 1080 cause there's no reason to get any clearer or bigger of a screen. Even if 4K took off, that's just an extra ten minutes of downloading for most people.

>>61827648
http://www.theesa.com/article/150-million-americans-play-video-games/

You're stuck 20 years ago with your logic. As more and more old fucks die off, people who regularly play video games all through their adult lives rapidly become the majority. Over half of gamers stream movies specifically with a console as well, so there's even more if you remove that restriction. Did you forget about how almost all games these days require downloading to install, in addition to huge updates on them as well? And games aren't getting any smaller. Forza 7, for example, is going to be over 100GB at launch. This will be the new norm, and it will only increase every few years.
Face it, internet speeds are not something to become complacent about. Just because all you do is jack off to 240p porn and shitpost on an imageboard, doesn't mean that's how limited most people's internet uses are.

>>61827749
There were idiots saying this about HD 15 years ago too.

>>61824906
>mainlinkanon
>medium=fee
i aint clicking that shit nigger

>>61827754
>As more and more old fucks die off, people who regularly play video games all through their adult lives rapidly become the majority
Then you have more to worry about than not fast enough internet if millions of americans are still playing video games instead of working a job that provides money for said video games. Even then, 150m americans arent playing games online. That number is including mobile. Also speed =/= bandwidth. People will still be able to enjoy video games even if an actual 150m were online at once playing CoD or some Steam multiplayer game. Games transmit little data upstream and down, which any smart multiplayer dev has accounted for. The only bottleneck is how many people in your neighborhood are playing online gaming at the same time and how good your lines are.

>>61827754

>muh vidya

you're not entitled to playing video games

>>61827761
HD is still a meme, which is why people run streaming at lower res for faster downloads. You have this notion that the internet was only made for streaming and wondering why isps have to cater to only one area of the net, an entertainment section no less.

>>61827754
>is going to be over 100GB at launch
what does a one time download of a game have to do with having high internet speeds? Are you downloading multiple 100GB games everyday?

>>61827782
>>61827789
>>61827813
>unironically arguing in favor of worse technology with the only reasoning being "y-you don't need..."
You would feel more at home living with the Amish.

>>61827849
>equating modern day internet to amish living

Stop drinking bleach

I don't understand what is the problem. For government services like filing taxes and applying benefits you don't really need that much.
In Finland the mandated minimum speed is 1 Mbit/s.

Or are you really saying you really "NEED" the bandwidth for netflix or some other garbage. I swear you amerifats are the most retarded people on this planet. If somebody said you don't NEED hamburgers to live you would probably shoot the guy.

>>61827859
Stop pretending that you have a good excuse to worsen what we have.

>>61827849
>unironically arguing in favor of worse technology

That's what you're arguing.

Net-neutrality guarantees low speeds and low data caps, especially for the rural people.

Because there's no Net-neutrality in the mobile industry, at least rural-fags can stream 24/7 content from many sites that have 0 rating with mobile carriers.

How does NN benefit rural people exactly? It does the exact opposite.

>>61827782
>Then you have more to worry about than not fast enough internet if millions of americans are still playing video games instead of working a job that provides money for said video games. Even then, 150m americans arent playing games online. That number is including mobile. Also speed =/= bandwidth. People will still be able to enjoy video games even if an actual 150m were online at once playing CoD or some Steam multiplayer game. Games transmit little data upstream and down, which any smart multiplayer dev has accounted for. The only bottleneck is how many people in your neighborhood are playing online gaming at the same time and how good your lines are.
With every sentence I got more and more triggered. Congratulations, 10/10

>>61827871
>worsen what we have

Nothing will get worse. Stop spouting IT'S HAPPENING threads about losing your rights or internet or whatever the hell you guys are spewing.

>>61827883
Net neutrality guarantees that your traffic is treated the same as any other traffic. Nothing more. Nothing less. Walk me through how exactly you think that NN is holding back speeds. I need a good laugh.

>>61827903
Your post is almost correct except it's also naive in what exactly the form of NN being argued for.

>>61827903
He has no clue what net neutrality is.

>>61826895
Beans are 10 cents/hundred grams. Add some vegetables and eggs, and you don't need more than 20 dollars a month for food expenses.

>>61827924
Net neutrality means netflix no buffer *bites a burger*
We need net neutrality *burp*
I need netflix no buffer, if not I die *licks mayo from fingers*

>>61827959
what a bad food analogy. if you truly believe current internet is dog food, then you're truly delusional

>>61827970
>mayo on a burger
What the fuck are you talking about

>>61827903
>Net neutrality guarantees that your traffic is treated the same as any other traffic.

Which means ISP's can throttle all of your internet to 10kbit/sec if they wanted to.

Tell me how NN guarantees fast speeds, now THAT will be a good laugh.

>>61827977
Eat your beans, Timmy. You don't need desert.

I honestly cannot wait until American Trumpcucks are forced off the internet because they can't afford to pay $0.49 per 4chan post that comcast charges them

AHAHAHAHAH

>>61828004
>I need a 5 star meal everyday because I'm entitled to it on my neetbux even though I'll waste most of it everytime

That's your food analogy done right. Most people, including you, never use top speeds 24/7. You never need it, either.

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I wish internet adapted a lower speed. That way I won't have to deal with bloated ass javascript websites. Remember when we only had to deal with html and css? Remember that the worse you got was just high contrast colors and animated fire gifs?

I wonder if the anti-nn shills would be happy to pay comcast $0.99/post on 4chan

Because that's what they're arguing for. I can't wait. Fucktarded Americans.

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>>61828040
Guess we're about to see huh, since the FCC is looking to throw it out by the end of Sept. Get fucked google shills.

>>61828021
How many days can you go without using your phone? This isn't about speed, it's about rights. Put your money where you mouth is: put your phone down and don't pick it up again. Or, are you a reliant, pathetic little consumerist like everyone else?

>>61828057
>about rights

You have no right to the internet.

>>61828050
I can't wait until you can't afford to post on 4chan

HAHAHAHAHHAHA GET FUCKED

>>61828065
>implying I use this chan most of my time

I'd gladly put down $1 a month for one post to tell you guys that you're stupid google shills.

>>61828050

NN doesn't even actually exist. It's just a pseudo-law Obongo put in during the last 2 years of his administration. What about the first 6 years? Nothing. And these doomsday idiots forgot that nobody was charged "$0.99/post on 4chan" . Retarded redditors.

>>61828087
>he doesn't realize NN has been the de facto policy since
Enjoy $1.99/post comcast shill

>>61828087
I'm aware what's being turned back. Which is why I said that NN is different from what everyone is using it as. What they really mean is that the data equalization regulations are about to go and the Title 2 designations along with it.

>>61824906
HAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHA
that's what you get for being americucked. move to a real country you fucking idiots.

rural thailand has better DSL than most of your cable internet.

>>61828064
You have no rights to a phone. Put it down, then.

>>61828102
I paid for its use, just like you paid to use the internet. Make me faggot. Look at that. Someone puts down money to pay for a service. Who would have known that existed.

>>61826017
Agreed, Trumpcucks are truly the lowest form of life on 4chan.

>>61828087
Comcast fucked with Netflix for awhile

>>61828126
Good

>>61828111
You can't do it, you're utterly reliant on your portable botnet machine. Just shut up.

>>61828084
How mad can a human being get that a company you have nothing to do with fired a person you don't even know?

You do know people get fired all the time for shit, right?

>>61828126

You mean this?

http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/media-botching-coverage-netflix-comcast-deal-getting-basics-wrong.html

>>61827749
>Even if 4K took off, that's just an extra ten minutes of downloading for most people.
>an extra ten minutes
>on 25mbit internet because it's "fast enough"
You're an actual fucking retard.

>>61828139
Convenience =/= reliance retard. Why dont you stop using the internet right now so you can stop posting your retarded anguishes.

>>61828136
I can't wait till comcast blocks 4chan unless you pay a fee and you won't be able to afford it.

Then we don't have to put up with your faggotry.

Netflik is a human right just like freedoms of speak
If pajeet takes it away, somebody has to pay

>>61828149
>I can't wait till comcast blocks 4chan
4chan is not a bandwidth eating service like netflix

>>61828143
>http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/media-botching-coverage-netflix-comcast-deal-getting-basics-wrong.html
Wow a lobbyist for the telecommunications industry thinks it was all on the up and up. I'm sure he has the consumers best interest at heart

>>61828170
But what happens when a bunch of progressives complain that it's home to racists and bigotry?

>>61828170
Do you think they won't find a way to package 4chan and reddit in their "le epic meme subscriber package" that you have to pay $119 for?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61827970
Yes, that is correct. With no buffer. Because I pay for a speed, so I expect to be given that speed. Otherwise, I would have selected a slower speed and paid less, wouldn't I have, king fuckface?

>>61828192
The only place that will happen is on google's isp.

>>61828178

>facts don't matter, i only care what john oliver says

>>61828192

Nothing.

Sure beats having web sites being censored for hate speech (by the government) like in Yurocuck land.

>>61828203
You're clearly ignorant on how the internet works. Please shut the fuck up.

>>61828211
You pay for possible speeds. You also fail to realize bandwidth, too.

>>61828212
lol

http://diversity.comcast.com/

>>61828064
You are actually wrong. It is a basic human right.

>>61828220
So Twitter, Facebook, Google, and all these other sites will bow to pressure but Comcast and TimeWarner won't?

>Indian-values fuck head with corporate influence connections telling me what I need
>Asshat corporatist fuckstick defining MY NEEDS

Nobody "needs" a smartphone either, or air conditioning, or a washer and dryer.

This guy is incompetent and needs to be removed. I'll be creating a public movement after taking in as much information as I can.

>>61828221
>You're clearly ignorant on how the internet works. Please shut the fuck up.
No retard, without NN comcast can charge you for visiting any site that isn't facebook/CNN/normie tier sites. I don't think YOU understand how NN or the internet works.

>>61828228
The internet is not right. If it were, why are you paying for it?

>>61828221
>You pay for possible speeds.
Wrong. I pay for a base minimum speed in my selected package. If I do not maintain a 60mbit average on my 100mbit plan then I am not required to pay for the month

Oh silly me, I forgot this is a thread with Americans in America! Haha! It's good to be in Europe.

Disclaimer: All I wish the FCC did is reduce regulation and increase competition.

The document asks the public for comments on a variety of questions, including whether mobile broadband can substitute for fixed Internet connections. You can file comments at this link:
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/proceedings?q=name:((17-199))

Initial comments are due September 7, and reply comments are due September 22.

Nothing is stopping you from telling the FCC your concerns. I don't really know if this is decrease competition.

>>61828252
Try this whole fucking sentence again

>>61828259
>I pay for a base minimum speed in my selected package
check your contract again, retard.

>>61828262
The public knows shit, I dont know why they would make an open forum about that shit.

>>61824906
At the very least we need reliability and competition, neither of which we have.

>>61828250

I don't have Comcast you retard.

>>61828240

Yes, Google just fired an employee for voicing his non-SJW opinion.

Every single ISP allows you to access 4chan, Stormfront, etc and have been doing it since forever, way before this NN bs.

>>61828300
>I don't have comcast
It applies to all ISPs mongoloid. Enjoy paying extra just to visit /r/the_donald faggot

>>61824906
Yes. That's absolutely right.

People living on some fucking rural farm don't need to stream Netflix at 4K.

I know this is shocking to city dwelling children.

Here's how you know Net-Neutrality is a scam.

All the tech CEO's are afraid to defend it:

https://www.recode.net/2017/7/31/16070176/amazon-facebook-google-netflix-net-neutrality-hearing-resist

>>61828325
Almost like they got big enough where they can pay to be in the fast lane and fuck over their competitors.

Same reason Walmart supports higher minimum wage.

>>61828323
t. sheep shagger

>>61828250
Cite something in the document

Cite a single fucking thing that says this situation changes with the previously proposed FCC rules

>>61828279
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1080952199726/Comment.txt

Ehhh....You might be right.

But people should read the original document. It asks about comments on whether the benchmark for broadband should still be 25/3 or if it should be different.

I just bring this up because anything involving the FCC devolves into:
">paying 24.99 + tip for my basic internet package" bullshit. Why can't we discuss the actual issues presented in the document? Seems more interesting then repeating political memes.

Be lucky NN is going away. If we had stayed under Obama, we would have gotten an internet tax in a few years.

>>61827390

except this 'we cant afford it' is bullshit, we gave them billions to build fibre but internet are still fucking garbage

also denying competition

>>61828250
>>61828352
Oh, and come up with some reason why this plan hasn't been carried out in the past.

AND figure out how the ISPs could get around antitrust laws.

>>61828362
Trump is the one complaining that companies aren't paying an internet tax

>>61828403
Which companies and you'll realize it's the way it's suppose to be.

>>61828412
Amazon

And I know you'll argue with whatever he says because you don't have an independent thought in your brain

>>61828362
Now we're going to have an internet tax without NN to help pay for massive increases in military spending. Great.

It seems like /g/ is no longer full of technology enthusiasts but corporate bootlickers and /pol/ mouthbreathers

What's another good place to discuss technology? Hacker news?

>>61827337
In context:

Mexican households average internet speeds are about 20mbs.

So you saying your fellow rural Americans deserve less internet speed than an average Mexican...

You sure you wanna go with that statement?

>>61828300
>way before this NN
Jokes on you, the ISPs have been trying to filter and prioritise traffic (and blackmail companies) for years, but they got shut down by the FCC. Now the FCC is saying 'we don't need to stop them any more', and net neutrality is about putting stopping them into hard legislation rather than best practices.

Do you seriously not remember the netflix thing a year or two ago? Comcast was fucking CAUGHT throttling netflix and then blackmailing netflix to stop the throttling!

>>61828418
I don't follow people's line of thoughts. Every decision I make or think is my own. Trump wants Google, Netflix, Amazon, and many companies operating as a business to pay their share. Now ask yourself this: what is wrong with making these companies pay their share like any other company in the US? How are you the consumer affected?

>>61828430
And Cthulu is going to rise out of the ocean tomorrow because you're getting your news from people who don't even know the first thing about NN or the internet.

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What is a good phiber optik infrastcructure?

Oh, forgot that americans cannot into sensible gubmint programs.

>tfw being a swede
Feels good, man!

>>61828444
>I don't follow people's line of thoughts
>will defend anything Trump does no matter how much it fucks him over
really revs up that prefrontal cortex

>>61827648
>Today's internet could operate as low as 2 Mb and only people like you guys and online gamers would be annoyed.

Top kek

>>61828444
You just complained about Obama taxing the internet and then I said Trump wants to do that you agree it should be done. Come on man, that's just pathetic.

>>61828439
>Jokes on you, the ISPs have been trying to filter and prioritise traffic (and blackmail companies) for years, but they got shut down by the FCC
The FCC shut it down because they wanted to get power over consumer information and didn't want to keep that power in the hands of the isps. And what is one of the biggest companies who benefits from getting the browsing habits of consumers and was also one of the biggest contributors to the Democrats? Google. And whats wrong with throttling netflix? You don't need netflix.

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>>61828436

In context, you're a retard:

>>61828471
Just because I bring up Obama doesn't make me a Trump shill, a bernie shill, a hilary shill, a McDonalds shill, or any shill. That's you throwing your insecure projections on someone else.

>>61828488
So why did you complain about Obama wanting to tax the internet if you actually want to tax the internet?

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>>61828486

And by state :^)

>>61828488
You're not a Trump shill. You're a Trump cuck. You would defend Trump if he fucked your wife. CUUCK

>>61827813
>
Such a stupid reply

>Please FCC, decrease my internet speed so I can download this game in 3 weeks.

>>61828499
Because the government was going to charge every american an internet tax, driving up costs NOT lowering them. You're bringing up two different subjects.

>literally 3rd world infrastructure
how can Americans ever recover
even pajeet has faster internet soon lmao

>>61828508
>it's the government's fault that video game companies make 100GB bloated software

Every software and company took into account two decades ago the common internet speeds of the average person and optimized everything, including formats such as jpg, mp3, and ogg. Ever since internet speeds have skyrocketed, that's the only reason you have seen the formats come such as flv, mp4, and the like. What you fail to realize in your post is that the fault does not like on internet companies. If someone releases a 1000GB sized software or service, it is not the isp responsibility to cater to it.

literally arguing to have slower speeds than 3rd world shitholes

is this the winning Trump told you idiots about?

>>61828516

already disproved

>>61828500
>>61828486

>>61828546
so America is 40 3rd world states and 10 1st world states?

>>61828546
nigger, that's low as fuck holy shit

>>61828565
Yes

the 40 3rd world states vote for a leader best suited to running a third world country (Trump)

>>61828546
maybe someday we can catch Singapore

>>61828565
An average of 18.6 would imply that either 50% of the population or 50% of states generally have a service capable of that speed available.

>>61828586
Refer to above

>>61828486
>>61828500
Sweden in general is somewhere between Rhode Island and Maryland - two urban and deveoped states, yes?

Enjoy ISPs cockblocking your favorite services and enjoy Verizon's cock in your anus when they sell you their new *super fast, Netflix killer, streaming service *.

>>61828565
Basically yes, it is.

>>61828601
>confusing average with median
Trump voters are such fucking brainlets holy shit

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America's average mobile internet speed is 28th behind fucking Kenya and Egypt.

>>61828704
And only 1 person in each of those places is capable of buying internet

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>>61828654
I voted for my dog but thanks for playing

>>61828704
How many people in kenya and egypt can afford this lifestyle and question again the absolute validity of the interdasting information you think you're being given.

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>>61824906
>We're going back to dial-up days
>This purges the normies from the net

Blessed be, praise thy name

>>61828601
You do realize that nobody have an 18.6 Mbit connection?
The image also said it was an average.
If 10 people have a 10mbit connection and 1 person have a 100mbit connection, the average would also be 18.
Maybe a a 20mbit connection is more common in the US, I don't have that data.

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>>61828717
They have better infrastructure than Americans. So much winning you guys are doing.

>>61828731
To reiterate what someone else said,

It's pretty easy to have a fast "average speed" when all of 10% of your nation can afford to use the infrastructure.

>>61828723
>I don't have that data
There's a hell of a lot of assumptions being made in this thread WRT the average speeds without any data.

>>61828765
Lot of other countries on that list where most of the population uses mobile phones.

Remember when you guys were landing on the moon a half century ago? Now Slavik countries are eating your lunch in tech.

>>61827337
>3mbps DSL
is this seriously what amerifats have to put up with? I live in a small finnish town and ive had 100mbps fiber for +5 years, and I could upgrade to 250mbps if I wanted. Even if you live in the middle of nowhere you can still get 100mpbs 4G without data caps for pretty cheap.

>>61828782
I'm really not concerned with dragging this argument any further because I don't give a fuck about wherever it is you're from.

These threads ultimately come down to "Haha America sucks, losers!"
and
"In a large spread out nation with tens of million of people living in relatively (key word) remote locations compared to population centers there are always going to be statistical outliers dragging down the numbers"

But some French asshole or Norwegian ice-brained cocksucker apparently can't understand the concept of large open spaces and the challenges that come with.

I'm convinced my dog would have been a better politician for your country as well.

>>61828807
>excuses for why your country is doing so much losing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA /POL/TARDS ARE HILARIOUS

>>61827648
So basically 95% of the internet?

>>61828814
wow u sure showed him

upboat!

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>>61828823
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE IRONIC REDDITOR PLOY TO PRETEND YOU AREN'T A FUCKING KEK WORSHIPING A MAN IN CULT OF PERSONALITY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I BET YOUR PARENTS ARE PROUD

>>61824906
You voted for this

>>61828220
You really do not address any points you just point back and say "no u to asshole" lol.

>>61828433
Go back to T_D nigger.

>>61828836
>>61828814
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I hope (you) have a good day :) because tomorrow will be even worse.

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You guys are silly

>>61828807
I'll just continue laughing while your dumb country keeps shilling for its ISPs. When the Pajeets pass you by (it's coming soon), you'll still be telling everyone how you don't need more speed as they're streaming in 4K and you're struggling to load YouTube vids.

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samefag

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>>61828918
My country dominates your country in internet speed and price. Enjoy struggling to keep up with Kenya's infrastructure.

Net neutrality is just putting a bandage over the real problem. The real problem is the government enforced regional ISP monopolies. Each municipality decides which ISPs are allowed in which area, even in cases where a new ISP has been willing to pay to lay new cable and set up shop, they have been denied. Even if you are out in the country with no internet and the designated ISP doesn't want to give you internet, but some other ISP is willing to, they can't because of the government won't let them.
I think a good solution would be to force the ISPs to rent out their cable to an unlimited number of ISPs which would allow any currently existing ISP and any new ones in the future to set up shop in any area they want thus increasing speeds and lowering the price. But to push for innovation, if an ISP lays new cable/fiber, they should have exclusive access to that for a set number of years before they have to rent it out.
No reason shit holes like South Korea and Europe should have much faster and much cheaper internet than in the US.

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/pol/ was a mistake

>>61828969
South Korea is far nicer than a lot of the shithole states in the US, stay mad americuck

>b-but Arkansas is just as nice as Seoul

>>61824906
I kinda agree with this, for different reasons though.

Fast internet made information depreciated.

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>>61829010
>Yay! Keep red pilling people!

/pol/ a cute

>>61828969
Why not use the copper that we already paid for and make the telcos rent it out? There's much more bandwidth to be had there and none of the contention problems that cable has.
Really, the correct solution is for the Post Office to get into the ISP business, fiber to the home and all.

>>61828807
>But some French asshole or Norwegian ice-brained cocksucker apparently can't understand the concept of large open spaces and the challenges that come with.
Russians can. Perhaps others aren't the ones with the problem.
Also, America literally does suck because the only thing it reliably stands for is grading society on a curve. It's time for the world to nuke the jewSA and be rid of it.

>>61829129
>Why not use the copper that we already paid for and make the telcos rent it out?
That's exactly what I meant, and if they want exclusive access then they can lay their own, better cable and have exclusive access to that line for a few years

>>61829024
What's wrong with Ar Kansas?

>>61829170
>nationalize the data roads
I can live with that.
Now, instead of imagining that corporations give a fuck about muh innovation, why not try to think of the far more likely outcome, that they will game that shit out to screw users over, and consider how they might do that?
They don't need to be "encouraged" to do shit. They can either build to spec or get the fuck out of business. Society does not owe them their ongoing existence. Imaginary friends aren't people.

>>61829010
is this real life

>>61824906
Serves you burgers right for voting Drumpf. You people get what you deserve

He knows he holds the monopole.
You'd be surprised how many people (myself included desu) would choose 80Kbps internet over none.
Free market is great idea but this seems to be an exception.

>>61824906
I hope Drumpf voters are happy.

>>61826895
>need

There's that word again. This is America, not North Korea. If someone wants to spend $150 a month for gigabit fiber internet with someone willing to supply it then what the fuck is the problem. There is no 'need' in the context of personal home internet you retarded cunt. Do I only ever visit one website to do one thing? Lol @ 720p, confirmed for a fucking pajeet who doesn't know shit about anything made in the past 10 years. This board seriously needs flags so I can ignore the 3rd worlders.

>>61830268
>nothing I can do without is a need
Have you considered that your personal success isn't worth arranging my life around, when you can simply be disposed of solving far more problems than it would create?
The best thing burgers can do is get into a nuke war and ALL DIE so that the rest of the world can be free of their self-absorbed, un-self-aware asses.

>>61827749
>Even if 4K took off

It took off 2 years ago, poorcunt.

>>61829010
Jesus FUCKING Christ. Please tell me that isn't real.

>>61826895
There are people that live with more than one person in a house.

>>61830290
What the fuck are you blabbing on about Pajeet? We're talking about internet speeds here and now Paijeet wants to, for some reason impose some non-neccesary limit on internet speeds.

If a company wants to supply me gigabit fiber for a price I am willing to pay, what is that to do with you and why does it annoy you?

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It's real

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>>61830900
Fucking boomers
Fucking christcucks
Fucking alt-lite
Fucking brainlets
Fucking normies

>>61829151
>America literally sucks
>literally
Blame all the immigrants and low achieving non-whites for our poor collective English skills.
Though you don't have an excuse.

>>61831465
nah, i blame you.

>>61824906
Well he's right. You don't NEED fast internet. But it's still a nice thing to have.

>>61831759
You don't really NEED toilets either, so the pajeets were truly right all long.

>>61828004
>desert

The mental gymnastics from Trump supporters is unreal though.
Commies suggest capped income for billionaires? Autistic screeching.
Pajeet says you don't need fast internet? Yes he's right!

>>61825825
ISPs paying to be the only allowed ISP and the high cost of entry from lack of free market is a problem.

>>61827078
If your guy can't do his job right he needs to go. Its not corporate where people can sue over the drop of a dime or where one guy can just carry half the team

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Like I said in the last thread. What's he gonna do, rip out my fiber?

Get rid of excessive regulation if you want high speed internet. Government should have no right to allow companies to pay for a monopoly, it's a government enforced monopoly. Imagine an ISP ran by /g/ anons, that would be cool.

>>61832950
Physical cable laying prices itself out of the msrket. Town of 500, each paying 1200 a year. How long will it take to recoup the hundreds of millions to lay cables underground in the middle of nowhere? People should just cluster closer together. Americans are insane to live so far apart and in tiny communities hundreds of miles from actual civilization in the middle of a swamp

>>61833013
There would be more incentive to lay out more cable if there were more companies thus more competition

>>61829129
>copper

>>61833031
Someone still has to pay for it and the cost is simply too high for most rural areas.

They don't have enough people to warrant the investment, and anyone stupid enough to pay for the infrastructure will be stuck with it and no possible chance to see profit within the next 200 years because you spent $150M to wire up 2500 houses and only 1500 signed up for service.

>>61833062
Then what do you propose to make it cheap and effective to bring high speed internet to anywhere in the country

>>61833031
You can only succeed if there's a minimum demand to profit. Competition won't fix shit, the free market memes are just memes. Reality is those people picked a shithole to live. It's funny liberals don't understand this when they're the ones always shitting on flyover state populations for living in the middle of nowhere with tiny, dispersed populations

>>61833088
Besides making it totally government operated and force them to turn all profits 100% back into infrastructure development?


Idk maybe low earth orbit micro satellites can fill the bill.

>>61833088
Move the people or wait for wireless to get better. The best hope, not even joking, is for phone companies to compete, and they actually can because they don't try to hold local monopolies because of the cost effectiveness of laying cell towers (covers large areas) makes it viable to service a lot of people cable companies can. Verizon was even talking about using high frequency band 5G to serve broadband to homes. Still not as cost effective as the band's serving phones but it's a step up

>>61833103
Allowing the federal government to step in and try to fix everything with more bureaucracy and lawyers won't solve anything.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436807/net-neutrality-government-control-your-internet-service

>>61833155
>makes it viable to service a lot of people cable companies can.
Can't

>>61833155
>Verizon was even talking about using high frequency band 5G to serve broadband to homes
Yea in the north east they want to leverage their existing fiber network (Verizon FiOS) for Verizon wireless 5G backhaul and allow them to offer fixed wireless internet. It would theoretically allow 1gbps but realistically youd probably see between 300-700mbps depending on distance from the microcell site and congestion on the local network.

>>61833165
Allowing the federal government to take total ownership of all ISPs would likely fix the issue to be honest.

It's the pussy half step between socialism and free market bullshit that allows the ISPs to fuck us. You want no regulation (which wouldn't work) and claim regulation doesn't work because of current regulation, but actually current regulation is bullshit watered down because you and others like you refuse to allow us to ever ACTUALLY implement real regulation, it always gets watered down and then you triumphantly roar about how the regulation failed, despite the fact you're the ones watering the regulation down to assure it's failure.

take complete control of all ISP and force all profits to be reinvested into infrastructure instead of dividends for share holders and bonuses for executives.

>>61833265
>Allowing the federal government to take total ownership of all ISPs would likely fix the issue to be honest.
And if you don't have lawyers or the time to fill out monstrous amount of paperwork, you're fucked. This will only allow the select few with the means of being able to be an ISP like comcast or verizon. Even worse, if you want to experiment with new technology, you better lawyer up and hope the government approves of it or you won't be doing anything they don't like.

>>61824906
Fuck pajeet

>>61833265
>drumpf is literally hitler!
>let's give his admin total control of our nation's internet providers
>oh yeah nevermind the propaganda and information control bill passed under Obama's admin that would let any future president abuse censorship

>>61833362
anything that I'm describing would take years to actually come to fruition, I doubt we'd be under the same administration.

>>61833468
Trump is going to be around for 8 years

>>61833479
I doubt he'll even run in 2020, he's obviously miserable as president.

>>61833505
>he's obviously miserable as president.
Are you joking? Literally anything he says the media will make him try to look like a nazi. He could advocate for left leaning ideas and they'll still won't be satisfied. I say trump is having the time of his life

>>61833518
Yea that's why he spends 10%+ of his time not working and instead golfing.

If in 2018 the dems manage any rally in the house, id doubt a Trump 2020 ticket.

>>61833593
Obama spent most of his time golfing, much more than trump did. Trump could cough and the media would think it was a racist gesture.

>>61833479
Why do pol tards even come to /g/?

The intelligence and logical thinking generally required for advanced programming usually keeps the conservative retards away. After all if you apply logic to most things trump says you'll quickly see he's just a rich lying tool using the morons in the electorate to further his own wealth and brand/image.

>>61833608
>Obama spent most of his time golfing, much more than trump did.
Are you actually retarded or just fishing for (you)'s?

>>61833622
There's no such thing as advanced programming

>>61833622
I don't go to /pol/ and I don't like the kekistan loving faggots on /pol/, but the fact you call /pol/ "pol" lets me know you're not native to this website and came from a website like reddit. But since you automatically assume anyone who disagrees with you is /pol/, I like them for upsetting you.

>>61833666
Kek, ive been here longer than you since i can actually recall the days when /g/ had guro.

You can't call someone out for not being a native of 4chan to someone who's literally been here for over a decade.

>>61833683
I severely doubt it since you called /pol/ "pol" and now you're making up claims of how long you've been here to try to save face.

>>61833013
>People should just cluster closer together. Americans are insane to live so far apart and in tiny communities hundreds of miles from actual civilization in the middle of a swamp
But then I wouldn't be able to have a gun range in my backyard.

>>61828057
I actually just switched back to a dumb flip phone and only really miss the gps on my smartphone, but I have a dedicated gps device anyway.

>>61827565

That's doesn't change what I said, especially since the demand is growing fast enough.

From the ISP's perspective, there's no reason to roll out 25Mb to rural towns when:
A. It costs a fortune
B. It's unlikely that they'll order if it's available

and

C. Mobile broadband represents a much more fertile ground to increase broadband connectivity given the cost of deployment

>>61834093
This, it's far cheaper to provide 5-10gbps+ backhaul bandwidth to a 5G cellular tower to provide coverage to 50 homes in a rural area than it would be to run fiber to each house, or even just copper last mile.

5G fixed wireless is likely the only chance for most rural areas to see 300mbps+

>>61826993
And I'm sure that one day, your comcast overlords will.

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>>61828464
The US has one of the largest GPON providers in the world. Over 5M customers. It's just not available everywhere.