Name one thing Linux can do that Windows can't.

>>61818395
Run without spying on you.

can Windows run on my TP-Link WR841?

>>61818395
update without turning off

Be part of a fully functioning GNU operating system.

give you a hard time trying to install something

>>61818395
running on less than 128mb ram
run on architectures other than x86 and arm
perform well on supercomputers
virtualization (hyper-v doesn't even support gpu passthrough)

>>61818395
Rofi

Update. My Windows is stuck on this one update and it fails every time so boot up is like 15 minutes. Deferring and manual install don't work

dir C:\$mft\foo without freezing the file system.

>comparing akernel to a whole OS
How rude

>>61818483
>implying Linux isn't an OS
How uneducated

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>>61818483
Windows is a kernel too.

Check and mate

Make my life hard

>>61818522
no, Windows' kernel is NT

>>61818411
fpbp

>>61818452
>hyper-v doesn't even support gpu passthrough
Are you stupid?

Be free as in beer

>>61818411
Implying anyone cares what type of porn you watch

>>61818447
Are you dumb? Windows can do this and even much better than Linux can.

>>61818395
Native sshfs.

I say this as a Windows user. Really irritating

>>61818395
Piss you off.

>>61818552
Funny, 'cause a Wikipedia search for NT brings up lots of things, except no kernel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT

>>61818411
assuming you have no systemd*

>>61818586
Anyone who thinks Windows isn't irritating has never had to deal with the registry, and anyone who hasn't had to deal with the registry doesn't use their computer for more than facebook and games.

>>61818590
Not him but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT

It's still known colloquially as the "Windows kernel"

>>61818605
systemd is not linux

>>61818616
>registry is bad hurr durr
Lmaoing at your messy config files

Be difficult to install.

>>61818617
That article not once refers to the Windows kernel as "NT".

>>61818666
Literally the first sentence, Satan:

>This article is about the Windows NT kernel

>>61818616
only had to deal with the registry once. and that is because i had to hard-shutdown my laptop and it ended up corrupting some system stuff. I do more than facebook and games. I do programming, software development, record audio, image editing, video editing, and mess around with other stuff as well. Never had a need to deal with the registry outside that one instance.

>>61818395
>one thing
Why stop at one?

Linux can:
- run without phoning home about every single thing you do
- update in background without restarting
- not update if you don't want it to
- run on <100MHz CPUs and just a couple MBs of RAM
- run on routers or pretty much any embedded system in general
- be a good OS for server usage
- be a good OS for smartphones
- be a good OS for desktops
- be downloaded for free with no strings attached

>>61818568
what, did they finally manage to catch up to the point where linux was 14 years ago ?

>>61818682
Oh I see, you're just too new. Let me enlighten you then, kid: Windows NT was an actual thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.1

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>>61818616
I'm not denying that there some things in windows that are a pain in the ass.The way linux works can be fucking mind numbling annoying 90% of the time, especially if you trying to do some work.Linux also being more complex does not=better.

>>61818395
Uptime

>>61818666
>>61818682

not any of you but:
https://superuser.com/questions/296020/windows-kernel-name-version

>>61818395
Allow the user to compile the operating system into an unusable disaster.

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>>61818647
>Ubuntu installation process
>literally click next a couple of times and type the user name and password you want to use

Is this beyond your capabilities?

>>61818395
be open source

>>61818682
"Windows NT" is the family of operating systems, named after the first OS in its line. The kernal is simply called "the Windows NT kernal". There's no specific name for it.

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>>61818395
Not cast you into the flaming pits of hell for trying to get external libraries to work.

>>61818395
Raw sockets with an official api.

>>61818771
What is ntoskrnl.exe for 500, Alex?

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>>61818725
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_kernel

>Windows 9x kernel, used in Windows 95, 98 and ME
>Windows NT kernel, used in all Windows NT systems (including Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10)

>>61818763
it's almost like there is more than one linux OS.

>>61818452
>virtualization
>gpu passthrough
These two things are not the same.

>>61818790
>choice is bad

has a shitload of constant issues

>>61818771
>kernal
Hello C64 user

>>61818787
the kernal for the NT OS, my friend

>>61818787
DOS file names were limited to 8 characters, kid.

>>61818788
What you're failing to realize is that "NT" is not a qualifier of "kernel", but of Windows. Your problem is a combination of being too new (and not even having existed when Windows NT was released) and poor language skills.

Btw, fun fact: do you know why that version of Windows was called NT? Because its predecessor OS was called VMS, so they just incremented each letter by one.

>>61818835
>>61818828
What is ntdll.dll for 300 Alex?

>>61818841
How is that proof that the kernel's name is NT?

>>61818835
>What you're failing to realize is that "NT" is not a qualifier of "kernel", but of Windows. Your problem is a combination of being too new (and not even having existed when Windows NT was released) and poor language skills.
You make a lot of assumptions all of which are wrong. My first OS was MS-DOS back in 1990, kiddo.

Windows NT started as an OS but is now an umbrella term for the whole architecture family.

For me the only thing I really miss from UNIX is /dev/, accessing devices in NT is a pain in the ass and has to be done through complicated/slow API calls.

>>61818787
>>61818841
So by that logic, the Linux kernel's real name is vmlinuz.

>>61818867
>My first OS was MS-DOS back in 1990, kiddo.
So you're new but just not THAT new. Okay.

>Windows NT started as an OS but is now an umbrella term for the whole architecture family.
I'm not denying that.

>>61818864
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntoskrnl.exe

>>61818871
Createfile isn't slow or complicated

>>61818886
>yet another article that not once refers to the kernel as "NT"
Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>61818908
ntoskrnl.exe(Short forWindows NToperating systemkernel,) also known askernel image, provides the kernel and executive layers of the Windows NT kernel space,

>>61818395
>not hog up 60gigs of my hard drive just for the os
>go 3 months without crashing and having to reinstall/system restore
>let me uninstall worthless bloatware i don't use
>let me install updates at my leisure rather than when the computer decides its time to update

>>61818571
>I don't have anything to hide so I'm ok with spying on me

Start thinking about others and the principle of companies spying on its own.

>>61818605
Systemd doesn't spy on you
Freetards would flip the fuck out. Stallman himself advertises fsf distros that come with systemd

>>61818796
IOMMU support is an essential part of virtualization. gpu passthrough was just an example to demonstrate that their IOMMU support is seriously lacking

>>61818395

Read and write the kernel.

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>>61818918
>be told you're just embarrassing yourself showing off your poor language skills
>double down on it
I made a drawing for you. Maybe this time around you'll stop.

>>61818605
But I don't
>t. Gentoo

>>61818907
Great if you just want to access a harddisk or removable storage (you'll still run into access denied errors if trying to write to a mounted partition). But if you want to do anything like access /dev/mem (\Device\PhysicalMemory in NT) you can't do so in usermode, you have to write a driver to do it. It's not impossible to do what you can do with devicefiles in UNIX, but you have to jump through so many additional hoops which is why I prefer UNIX in this area.

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>>61818641
>your messy config files
Pic related, an elegant and simple configuration system.

>>61818727
>Linux also being more complex
It's not, you're just an idiot.

>>61819041
The only time anyone uses the term NT is when talking about the windows kernel. Colloquially, NT means the kernel

>>61818395
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61819105
Not really no. We also use it when referring to the entire family of operating systems originating on Windows NT and the work of Dave Cutler.

>>61818605
>muh sysvinit
>muh minimalism

>>61818395
Type enforcement and mandatory access controls.

>>61819085
You shouldn't be able to access physical memory from usermode, that isn't a good idea at all

>>61818505
>being this retarded
There is a reason you don't see an operating system just called 'linux'

>>61819270
There's a reason why people ask
>do you run Linux
Dumbass

>>61819270
Linux exactly fits the definition of an OS.
These days a bit supplemented by fuse/udev, but that's a different issue.

>>61818452
>run windows 2000
>so what ? 68k? what other noteworthy arches are there
>he he he
>you know nothing about VM's dont you

>>61818575
too dumb to click next? unless you have some sort of outdated (16bit) software it will install and run , simple as that

>>61819228
You can do both in Windows without any issue.

>>61819322
Yes, there is a reason: because most people can't notice the difference between a kernel and a kernel, libs and other things that make an OS.

Linux does what Windon't xddddd

>not phoning home constantly
>constantly download and install updates in the backgroud

activates my almonds

have a functional command line

>>61818727
Linux is way simpler than Windows.

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>>61819424
You must be really fun at parties

>>61818763
>install windows past 98
>insert boot media
>do you want to install?
>yes
>where
>here
>name pls
>user
>okay installing now
>done and booted

woa so hard

>>61818820
amiga OS is almost linux [tm]

>>61819510
It's literally the same for every non-meme linux distro

>>61818941
just use windows 7 , 20gigs max w/ all updates
you can literally uninstall EVERYTHING and disable system feature if you so desire , until it breaks ofc
and updates are not automatic when you disable automatic updates ,also didn't linux constantly update in the background ?

>>61819510
this guy thinks installing linux is hard
probably shouldn't have a computer

>>61818415
>
>>61818605

>>61818989
>Name one thing Linux can do that Windows can't.
>virtualization
>can't
>but but muh gpus are better on linux that means virtualization hasn't existed on windows for years, things cease to exist when they're not as gooder as other thingses
It's like words don't have meaning anymore.

>>61818395
Work

>>61818395
It used to be able to host a friendly thread. That was fun

>>61819086
>hurr user UUIDs are not pretty named

>>61819544
>>61819609
no someone thought installing windows was hard , read what i reply to , installing an OS is not hard
never really was , even in DOS days all you did was execute "install" and it did its thing , asking you for install media every now and then (dos 6.22 took 3 floppies afaik , could be more)

>>61819403
Yep that's the one

>>61818467
windows xp doesn't have this problem

>>61819270
look up what the definition of an OS is.
hint: tannenbaum or stallings wrote great books explaining it

>>61819654
>all you did was execute "install" and it did its thing
Look at richie rich over here with his "full version" back in my day a good ole SYS A: C: and DEBUG was just fine

>>61818411
cucks actually believe this

>>61818395
>Name one thing Linux can do that Windows can't.

Add my own syscall to the kernel.

>>61818395
Not be American botnet

>>61818411
>implying

I remember a time when Amazon made off with lots of peoples information.

>>61819489
actually powershell is not bad but it would be better just to port bash

>>61818835
that fun fact made me realize you are a troll

>>61819969
>1 out of dozens of distributions
>amazon shit could be fully turned off or uninstalled
Yeah. It's the same as (((Microsoft)))

Show us the code.

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>>61818411
this

>>61818422
this

>>61818560
this

>>61818579
this

>>61818647
possibly this

>>61818712
this

>>61818728
this

>>61818768
this

>>61818776
this

>>61819022
this

>>61819228
this

>>61819480
def this

>>61819609
also def this

>>61819641
>>61819641
this

>>61819953
oh ya, this

ill add a few: native ability to modify the source of any binary being ran

full control over which binaries are being run (besides the kernel you can choose what you want installed, unlike windows. try getting rid of idk, windows defender?)

kernel level networking rules a-la iptables, making it suitable to operate as a hardware firewall on an embedded device

doesnt have to communicate with the Microsoft mothership to spy on you 24/7.. Excuse me,I mean ((Improve your experience))

>https://youtu.be/Y3no3mlLfjY
>https://youtu.be/_bzj9ujUrQM

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>>61819838
>"muh freedom"
Its actually so stupid that people think they can magically "get away" just because its another "open source!11!!!!!" os.

Linus does not require 4-8 hours to complete updates

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>>61819086
>it's not, you're just an idiot
I'm simply saying that anyone who thinks an OS is better because it is more sophisticated is not using a very good argument.I never personally said that it was more complex either.

>>61818395
FUSE
apparently making a good compiler

>>61820161
first video is interesting, heres the background on it:

ruskie replaces the microsoft public key with his own public key in the windows 10 install binary.

he installs it in a virtual and MITM's the connection so that the virtual thinks it is communicating with microsoft.

he is able to decrypt the packets because he has the private key and windows 10 thinks it is using microsoft public key but is actually the ruskies

>>61819838
>cucks actually believe this
Do they? I thought they just watched while guys fucked their partners.

>>61819406
Windows has Mandatory Integrity Control. I want SELinux-style domain type enforcement.

>>61818395
Disable updates

>>61818463
happened to me too. No fix available.

>>61818463
install gentoo

windows update is horse manure on a warm day\>>61820187

Make a local symlink to a remote file.

>>61818787
>>61818788
made me laugh very hard, thank you guys

not take all day to run updates on a fresh install

>>61818835
>>61818828
>>61818725
>>61818666
>>61818590
Windows users are this bumb.
wow.
just...
wow.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_kernel

>>61818395
View and edit all partitions of a drive

play vidya easiliy

>>61818590
>>61818666
>>61818725
>>61818835
>>61820781

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as NT, is in fact, Windows/NT, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Windows plus NT. NT is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another proprietary component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the Windows corelibs, GUI utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the Windows system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Windows which is widely used today is often called NT, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Windows system, developed by Microsoft.

There really is a NT, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. NT is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. NT is normally used in combination with the Windows operating system: the whole system is basically Windows with NT added, or Windows/NT. All the so-called NT distributions are really distributions.

>>61818712
>- be downloaded for free with no strings attached
Actually, the GPL does have some strings attached. If you change anything, you need to share those changes back upstream.

>>61819719
it was a stolen copy from the office , just dad just copied the install floppies as they had no copy protection (he is the it at that company , to this day)

>>61821103
>POSIX
you were so close

>>61820869
What is the disk management utility?

>>61821103
Don't you mean Windows/VMS?

>>61821127
It's a utility that manages disks

>>61821118
>If you change anything, you need to share those changes back upstream.
Only if you redistribute binaries outside your organization. Bait or shitpost?

>>61821120
The last sentence also don't really work that well. But at least I tried.

>>61821120
Windows implements POSIX.

>>61818395
Use >, <, : etc in filenames.

>>61818395
Be a part of the globalist socialist/communist/marxist machine?

>>61822328
>Windows implements POSIX.
I know. But it isn't fundamental to the design.
>vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX
Doesn't really describe NT. You could just as easily had said "Windows implements NetBEUI"

>>61822364
NTFS needs to die

>>61820325

this is fucking scary

>>61818467
Windows 10 no problems

>>61822782
It's also not real.

>>61818395
Not update at all, because I dont need it and I dont connect my pc to the internet alot (but enough to let windows download the update over several weeks of connecting an hour or two at a time and then updating without prompt, killing my pc).

>>61818463
>my windows
underage gtfo

Brick your computer in 2 minutes flat.

>>61818467
patched

>>61820187
Neither has Windows post-XP memelord.

>>61818712
>un on <100MHz CPUs and just a couple MBs of RAM
Is this still possible with an up to date kernel?

>>61822712
No u

>>61823508
probably, modern kernels dropped 386 support, but afaik 486 and up is still supported

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view your embedded windows key without having to install 3rd party software.

>>61824111
wmi isn't 3rd party.
wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey

>>61818395
its a computer so nothing,
its just a matter of how much time and effort it takes, and linux wins in that aspect.

>>61818447
>windows
click next 5 times, install 3 toolbars and 2 PUPs
>Linux
dpkg -i program

>>61818395
provide exceptional detail and documentation when errors occur.

>Something happened

lul

>>61818768
/thread tbqh

>>61818571
Enjoy your datamining on your "personal" computer

>>61825683
>windows: you wouldn't have the resources to fix the error by yourself anyway
>loonix: here's a link to a man page, fix it yourself fag

All operating systems are shit. You're just picking which hell you prefer.

>>61818395
run a sensible networking stack

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run more time on battery?

>>61818463
Create a recovery drive

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026852/windows-create-a-recovery-drive

Use a friend's pc to create it. Or another pc.

>>61825683
>retard doesn't know how to view a crash dump
you're literally the target audience for the basic error screens

>>61818522
There's NSA botnet in the kernel, too.

>>61818712
Enjoy your spybots

>>61818571
i bet they care about your bank account

>>61820161
>>61820325
>>61822782
Cmon anon, you can see the fucking Insider Preview watermark on that ancient video, you can go read the insider preview EULA and the RTM EULA, this was know beforehand, those videos show nothing new, stop being stupid on the internet.

>>61818395
Have drivers for ethernet out of the box

>>61820161
>>61820325
>>61822782
>still shilling your shit video
Next time you shouldn't show the file as only 1KB before you ""decrypt"" it and it magically turns into two PNG files that would be at least 500-1000x that size each.

>>61827226
it's not even real

Having multiple panels/desktop environments. Installing things without opening a web browser. Being able to update your entire system with a single command and not have to reboot.

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>>61818395
See last reply in pic.
Had this issue the other day on my win7 virtual machine.

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>>61818395

- have simple config files in the home directory instead of a mish-mash of registry keys and configs stored fuck-knows-where
- create a development environment without using cygwin, mingw, or installing bloated IDEs
- let you customize its appearance beyond the wallpaper and border colors
- update without rebooting
- update the OS and all user programs with one command
- give you control over your own goddamn computer instead of "I'm sorry $USER, I'm afraid I can't let you do that."

i know this is foreign to you, but just imagine this for a second-- imagine... being able to update firefox and atom and any program that didn't come from Microsoft's ass... /without/ opening every one just to find the update button and click through 12 menus

windows also doesn't understand the concept of a file hierarchy that actually makes sense. installing anything will sprinkle shit in fifty different directories and a hundred different registry locations. temp files don't get deleted. no matter how thorough you are when you install/uninstall something, you will never get rid of all of the debris. all you can do is attempt to delete things that seem useless or wait until the OS drowns in its own shit and forces you to reinstall it.

>>61818411
Remember the TLAs are responsible for much of Linux, it has been spying on you a lot longer.

>>61828805
>- have simple config files in the home directory instead of a mish-mash of registry keys and configs stored fuck-knows-where
a binary registry is more efficient than parsing text files
spread out configurations are an issue with the software developer, not the OS
>- let you customize its appearance beyond the wallpaper and border colors
there's a whole deviantart section dedicated to that
easy ricing is not a top priority feature of an OS anyway
>- create a development environment without using cygwin, mingw, or installing bloated IDEs
then fucking use notepad, IDEs are supposed to be feature rich. learn to use the features and they will stop looking like bloat
>- update without rebooting
wusa /norestart
>- update the OS and all user programs with one command
there is third party software that does this, even some consumer laptop OOTB bloatware can

>>61818395
> Name one thing Linux can do that Windows can't.
• You can modify it however the fuck you want.
• Hate the UI? Install an entirely new DE. sudo apt-get instal blah / yum install blah
• Doesn't fucking spy on you. And even if some distribution does include spyware, you can simply remove it without repercussions or breaking the OS.
• Control your networking with iptables/ipset/dnsmasq/iproute.
• bash/sh/zsh, and all the various handy utilities, like dd, grep, sed, piping output, and all the things you can use/modify like a file (/dev/null, /dev/urandom). Windows cmd is a fucking joke.

>>61829091
you can pipe output with the windows command line lol. stop talking about things you don't understand.

>>61818411
Windows 95 does not spy on you.
NEXT.

>>61829139
Not like you can on Linux. You have so many different ways to do it.

Have passionate, dedicated, intelligent users that aren't paid fucking shills for Microsoft.

>>61829316
you can pipe the binary output of .NET programs in powershell, can you do that in Linux?

>>61829466
as opposed to what? non-binary output?

>>61829466
You can pipe any output of any fucking thing in any goddamn GNU shell. Are you fucking retarded, paid Winshill?

>>61829722
as opposed to text output, obviously

>>61829751
where'd you get the idea that you can only pipe text in linux?

>>61818411
>go on the internet
>all your activities are now monitored
wow goodbjob

>>61829384
>passionate
Yeah, the whole Linux community really is passionate. Mostly about arguing with each other.

>>61818395
Linux doesn't disgust me. I use windows as well and I'm frequently disgusted by it. I use the oldest verson windows version offline in a vm that I can to get the job done when I need it. It's not bad software. It's a bad company.

>>61818395
The problem here is that at first it seems easy, because it IS easy, but you're going to say "lol why would I need to do that". Let's try this out.

>hotswap CPUs

>>61818395
`fork()`

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Name one thing osx cant do that linux / windows can

>>61818768
Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".
The term "open source" was created by a group of people that did not want to be associated with the free software movement. When I say "free" software (which is one of the alternatives preferable to "open source"). It's not about price; in that case I would say "gratis", or "free as in free beer". It's about "freedom"! This is what the free software movement is fighting for.
So what is "free" software? Free software is any software that guarantees the user the four essential software freedoms:
> 0. Run the program as you wish.
> 1. Study the source code and change it so it does what you wish.
> 2. Redistribute exact copies of the program.
> 3. Distribute your modified version of the program.
Some people decided that they wanted to restrict the user; but being able to study and modify the "open source" code is not enough! This is directly hurting the cause of the free software movement because it takes away the sociological "freedom" aspect of free software and turns it into a technological one.
So for those reasons I ask that in the future you use the terms "free", "free/libre" or, if necessary "FLOSS" (short for "free/libre and open source"), though the latter should still be avoided.

>>61818605
Gentoo is the only freedom distro. Not even Trsiquel is 100% free. Stallman btfo'd.

>>61818395
Run memory debug on C

>>61830048
>>61830084
This

The best memory debug runs only on Linux. I use OSX and have to run lubuntu in VM to do it

>>61818395
Not having BSOD
Not requiring restart every update
Not requiring ctrl+alt+del

Manage dependencies with a package manager

>>61830104
Run a server for hundreds of days stable

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>>61818395
>Name one thing Linux can do that Windows can't.
Be open source

>>61830125
No problem, pic related

>>61818415
The funniest part is that the Windows Kernel can do that just fine, but the OS still has to restart because of some tiny BS part on the userland side.

>>61830048
being virtualized on non fruit hardware without violating the eula

>>61830066

Please take a shower.

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>>61830289
Kek

>>61818395
Well Redshift can control your monitor's brightness, flu.x can't

>>61830048
Being better than Windows

Mac a fucking shit and so is Linux. Eat shit, sperglords.

>>61818552
C:\Windows\System32\NTOSKRNL.EXE
Checkmate, atheists.

>>61818395
rm -rf /

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>>61830347
That's just F.Lux being crap. Windows absolutely supports changing monitor settings.

http://clickmonitorddc.bplaced.net/

>>61818395
Be open source. Be just a kernel. Update while you work.

>>61819270
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Yes you do though.

>>61818395
Make a folder named AUX

>>61818395
Create new folder > name it NUL
rename it CON
rename it AUX

>>61823545
Yeah, but with all the immensely increased kernel stuff like thread management and other stuff that creates much more overhead, more drivers that have to run at the same time and drivers for only the latest chipsets that's the least of my worries.

>>61818447
>>61818575
Try installing the JDK on Windows such that it can be used from the command line. You literally have to do sketchy registry brakes just to install a program. Say what you will about software compatibility on Linux, I've never had to go that far.

>>61818395
By default, without installing additional software with potential spyware? Mount and read an ext4 partition.

>>61832044
the talk page for that wiki page is great

>>61832826
>what is PATH
>linux users are this retarded

>>61818395
Shove the disk with Linux into a wildly different system and have it work out of the box.

leddit link with example: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6ssm33/linux_surprises_me/

>>61829765
PowerShell lets you pipe .net objects and thus avoids having to grep output for pieces of text you're actually interested in.
It's just a different way to do things.

>>61819131
Windows isn't posix compliant asshole

>>61818395
Being fast and secure.

>>61833724
Yes it is

>>61820161
Could you sue microsoft if you played childporn on your computer (in an arab country where this is legal) and they have screenshots of this on their servers?

>>61833835
No because they don't take any screenshots by themselves.
The video is fake, the saved stream is only 1KB.

>>61818395
Give you control of your computer. Microsoft literally does whatever it wants with your hardware and there is nothing you can do about it.

Sad.

Be an actually good OS

>>61830167
sauce on that? genuinely interested.

>>61818395
GNU/Linux can run headless and be managed from a simple text only remote terminal.

>>61833967
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd184075.aspx

>>61818395
Can have a shell that sucks less cocks than SJW in the gaming industry

>>61833815
Hasn't been posix compliant since 4.0

So no, it isn't it's only mostly compliant with cygwin installed

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>>61834017
anon pls

>>61818395
SSH without installing third party software. Packet capture without installing third party software. Anything useful for device management without installing third party software.

>>61829146
but can it run chrome? next

>>61818395
poo in loo

Run Android emulator for and processors in Android studio. This is important to me.

>>61818395
-write to hfs formatted partitions
-be free as in beer or as in freedom
-come with vim preinstalled
-run a supercomputer
-properly run a server
-non-annoying updates
-run on power architecture processors and other architectures
The list goes on

>>61818395
excel

>>61835577
>SSH without installing third party software

Windows actually can do this now using WSL, but that depends on your definition of third party.

>>61835926
>>61833900
>>61833640
>>61832029
>>61830150
>>61830084
>>61829733
>>61828805
>>61825644

also piping that's actually worthwhile. It's not unusable on powershell, but it's practically useless since psh is

>>61834122
ah yeah good old powershell, really nice tool to pop some boxes

>>61818395
native rsync

>>61818415
that's not true when it comes to major distros due to systemd

>>61818395
Work

>>61835577
>SSH
Why would anybody use that shit when you have Terminal Server?

>windows
No flexibility
you can't even install a tiling wm

>>61818505
linux ISN'T an os
linux is JUST the kernel

>>61838250
oh and btw
i love bein able to see what i update instead of "we are updating or changing whatever the fuck we want in your system without you knowing."

>>61838272
operating system
noun
the low-level software that supports a computer's basic functions, such as scheduling tasks and controlling peripherals.

>>61838387
Stallman has a different definition than your academic bullshit.

>>61838180
Winbabies are so fucking stupid this doesn't even warrant a response

>>61838272
>>61818483

Your nonstop, predictable pedantry is kind of a waste of space at this point. We know Linux is a fucking kernel, you geniuses. Just pretend the thread is called "Name one thing a Linux system can do that Windows can't" and stop repeating this useless garbage.

case sensitive file names.

>>61825644
>Linux
surely he means debian?

>>61828805
>temp files don't get deleted.
also, usually the user has no clue and has to be extremely tech-savy to find i.e. a word document that you downloaded and directly opened in your office program with "open with". In Linux all of this shit is in /tmp, in Windows it's not locatable without black magic. And obviously never gets deleted.

>>61818395
actual answer:
namespaces allow you to make an application see a different hierarchy of the system than may truly exist.

for example, when I run Firefox in my VPN network namespace, I don't have to wonder whether my routing table is configured correctly such that the application will always route out through my VPN. The only network interface visible to Firefox is a tunnel interface, and from Firefox's perspective, the only route is out through the VPN.
This means that I can play Counter Strike and have it not route through my VPN, but I can also have Firefox running and it will route through the VPN.

There is no equivalent on Windows, and there are other forms of namespaces besides network namespaces.

>>61832054
kek wtf

>>61839337
there is a folder literally named 'Downloads' pinned to Explorer by default
pretty much all web browsers' default setting is to download without asking to that exact folder

>>61839337
isn't that dependent on the s/w you're using? for instance on a linux system it's application developers' choice to put that shit in /tmp. they could just as well put it somewhere else that you wouldn't think to look in. I could totally believe, however, that the most common conventions in this regard are more friendly on, say, a linux than a windows.

>>61838250
what? there are tiling window managers for windows. I even used to use them myself.

>>61833634
despite both systems typically being configured with an environment variable called "PATH" for similar purpose, it seems that the common conventions are a bit different. like on a linux system it's typical to install s/w (partially) by dropping binaries in one of the "bin" or "sbin" dirs, and on windows I'm pretty sure it's common to append a new location to PATH. does that sound right?

>>61839238
my gut reaction used to be that case-sensitive file systems are better because I grew up on unix-likes, but now I'm really not sure. in every case I have been able to think of, you're a total dick if you make files w/ the same spelling but different case mean different things, like "Program" and "PROGRAM". I do it sometimes w/o thinking but really it feels like a nasty habit and I certainly don't ship s/w that works this way.

Just work.

>>61832054
>>61832099
>hurr magic names
at least windows can hide folders without the necessity to rename them

>>61825644
See this is the reason noone uses linux. Sane people don't use command line only shit anymore.

>>61818712
>- run on <100MHz CPUs and just a couple MBs of RAM
Embedded/IoT version can do that.

>>61830167
that's so windows

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>>61825979
>your updating scheme is such a fragile pile of shit that you need recovery tools to unfuck it

>>61839492
There are numerous graphical frontends to package managers. All easy mode distros come with one.

Besides, using the ebul scary see el eye makes Windows less shitty, too.

https://chocolatey.org/

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

>>61839475
come on, no operating systems "just work". you're kidding yourself if you think that's the case.

>>61839482
hidden files are an awful concept imo, no matter how they're implemented

>>61833956
>>61830167
I'm interested too; got a link?

>>61830125
agreed but really this should be avoided in practice anyway. running vulnerable systems in production for years is a horrible idea. there's also ksplice or whatever -- haven't tried it myself but seems reasonable.

>>61828000
>Being able to update your entire system with a single command and not have to reboot but sometimes it breaks everything
ftfy. ;) I'm being a jerk on purpose of course but you know as well as I do that it happens occasionally and you have to be prepared to deal with that.

>>61838801
>Stallman has a different definition than your academic bullshit.
Ok, that will be very important when i give a shit about that autist's drivel and weird standards.

>>61818395
Fail to receive input from the windows key by default.

>The windows key limits your freedom, so we took the liberty of failing to map it to the start menu. No need to thank us, just pay it forward. Namaste!

>>61818395
Not using a single byte on internet data if I just let it idle on the desktop

>>61818522
T. Retard
NT is a kernel, Windows runs on the NT kernel (I think it's version 6 or 7 now)

>>61818395
Run on MIPS, PowerPC, SuperH, etc.

>>61818395
Be Linux.

/thread

>>61818395
Having a path longer than 256 characters.
Checkmate. Windows 10 still has the same prehistoric limitation of Windows 95 for "backwards compatibility".

Using robocopy does not count.

>>61843372
Since build 1607 of Win10 you can enable long file paths by default, and since Win2k(?) you've been able to use long paths by prefixing them with \\?\

>>61843372
If you need paths longer than 256 characters, then you're probably not organizing your files well anyway, anon.

>>61836874

>It's not unusable on powershell, but it's practically useless since psh is

>i don't know or want to understand powershell, therefore it is useless to me