/spg/ - Smartphone General

>>61815554
SD820 is still a very capable chip, it's only marginally behind the SD821 and that was good enough for the G6.

>>61815604
At least the G6 is priced accordingly, whereas the SD820 XZs was $235 more than the Mi6 with the SD835.

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I'm thinking of getting an XA1 Ultra...
Talk me out of it, /g/?

Why I want to get it: huge screen, I love the brand and design of Sony, I assume it won't contain bloatware as it is by Sony, it's very affordable at around 340€ unlocked, and I don't use the camera a lot so I don't need it to be great... also don't need high end specs as I mostly just browse. Battery = decent is OK as I don't leave the house a lot : )

Will I be disappointed or is it a decent purchase?

iPhone 8 looks like dog shit. 2017 is a terrible year for smartphones

>>61815679
xiaomi mi 6 is bretty gud tho

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>tfw aiming to go from an 801 to an 835
feels good man

these scores are averaged a bit, some phones pull better or worse scores depending on their clockspeeds

>>61815661
Doesn't it lack a fingerprint scanner?

>>61815707
Why is a fingerprint scanner good to have? Legit question.

http://mashable.com/2017/04/11/smartphone-fingerprint-scanner-vulnerability/#ilXrrLEdAiqD

>>61815661
Mi Max 2 has similar/better specs and is also quite a bit cheaper. XA1 Ultra is good too, just a bit pricey for the specs you get. If you prefer Sony then go for it.

>>61815654
Prove where the 835 is that much better than the 820/21

>>61815700
>no headphone jack
trash

>>61815785
Luddite

>>61815791
Eat shot faggot. I have expensive over the ear headphones and I'm not going to convert to the dongle life just to use them and the multiple other pairs of ear buds I use

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Oy lads I'm looking for a good phone at any price with service available from Verizon
Currently I'm thinking of the Moto z2 Play as, as far as I know, there's know reason to get anything more powerful and there's no Chinkphones available for Verizon
Is this a good choice or should I look into a different phone?

>>61815739
>https://www.cse.msu.edu/~rossarun/pubs/RoyMemonRossMasterPrint_TIFS2017.pdf
i didn't read the whole thing but it looks like they didn't test it on actual phones. spoofing attacks have been demonstrated on older iPhones but not on newer android phones. there are different fingerprint sensor vendors; just get one that has an FPC sensor such as xiaomi mi 6 which has FPC1268.

a fingerprint scanner is more convenient than a passcode, you just press the home button to unlock. someone could look over your shoulder to see your passcode but spoofing the fingerprint scanner is much harder.

>>61815802
>have expensive over the ear headphones
>uses the built in phone dac

>>61815783
Better CPU, better GPU, better power efficiency. More performance won't probably matter if you don't game much, but more battery life is definitely nice.

>>61815702
Same here, went from house fire 808 to 835. Standby time is awesome. Power consumption too.

>>61815838
My DAC is better than your 3.5mm-less piece of garbage

>>61815818
Are you buying outright or on a contract? What price you seeing on the Z2 Play?

>>61815843
Most people don't seriously game with their phones, any 820/21 phone will be fine

>>61815881
$408.00 or $10.00 a month

>>61815750
but miui is garbage, Sony is near stock.

>>61815940
Are you sure? It felt fine using the redmi note 4. Pretty sure the max 2 has a much better battery life. But then that is your choice. Since you will be stuck with 3g network in the us

>>61815971
>stuck with 3g network in the us
Don't think he's in the US as he's talking about Euros here
>>61815661

>>61815911
If you're buying outright then might as well get a Moto G5 Plus, Z2 Play is not worth paying $400 for. But $10/mo is a fine price, especially if you're getting the free speaker thrown in.

Upgrading from a Moto G LTE.

I really like the size of the Moto G.

Should I just get a Redmi 4X (5"), or should I wait for the rumored Mi S (4.6")?

>>61816026
Thanks, I think I might get that instead

>>61815828
What about using a NFC ring instead of a fingerprint scanner?

Reposting from the previous thread for all you poorfags

Walmart is selling the Verizon Prepaid Moto E4 for $39 (you can also price match at Target)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Motorola-E4-Prepaid/953073971

Get this $2 unlock code and it'll work with AT&T and T-Mobile (or just use it as a wifi-only device)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221936302683

More info in this thread:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10418732-select-walmart-stores-16gb-moto-e4-verizon-prepaid-smartphone-39-90-w-free-store-pickup

>>61815971
I had Mi 4c before and my miui experience wasn't great

>tfw going shopping for a cellphone for the first time and realizing being an American is fucking awful

>>61816221
at least you didn't get shot

>>61815889
Even 820's Adreno 530 is fine for gaming at this point. You're not really going to need anything better unless you're trying to do VR, and even 835 isn't going to do top tier VR.

>>61816127
None of them will work in the U.S.

>Why is a fingerprint scanner good to have?

>>61816482
Convenience, security

>>61816482
Why do people green text when they don't know how to use it?

>>61816221
why is that?

Wait for iPhone 7s or get XZ Premium
Currently using a Galaxy core prime

>>61816352

I live in Canada. Does the same problem apply?

I know a couple people with Xiaomi phones that work fine.

I had the 8gb OP5 for a week now and it's heaps better than the LG G6 i had a while back. This phone is crazy. There isn't any jelly as well if you're worried about that.

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Bought this off swappa, what should I do to disconnect it from the botnet?

>>61816482
I see the Apple shilling has started early

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>order phone online
>phone died so i needed it asap
>pay extra for 3 day shipping
>excluding sunday this is day 4
>tracking makes it look like i'll be lucky if i get it tomorrow

seriously, fuck fed ex

>>61816630
Wrong

>>61816676
Ok

>>61816615
Check if they have Band 7 and use willmyphonework.net

>>61816630
why/how is it better

>>61816700
Hardware defect, they all have it. Whether you can tell or if it bothers you is an entirely different question

>>61816615
Depends on the carrier, but generally they'll work fine as long as there's B4 and B7

What's the best budget phone out there right now?

>>61817084
Nokia 150

>>61816670
What did 3 day shipping option do though? Did it guarantee that you'd recieve the phone in 3 work days, or that it would be shipped in 3 days?

Looking forward to next year when I'll buy this year's flagship at a used or reduced price.

It will be either Note 8, iPhone 8, Pixel 2 XL or LG V30.

>>61816639
Wrap it in aluminium foil

I've got ~$400.

The most important things for me are:
>feels responsive
>nice screen

Second Most
>If bloatware is still an issue, I want as little of it as possible
>Camera

What do I get?

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>>61816639

>>61817192
the web site estimated 3 day would arrive by tuesday and standard free shipping would be friday

it is going to come tomorrow, so i now just paid 9.99 to get it a day earlier.

should I import a huawei p10 or honor 9 into the US? will they even be compatible with full functionality? (on ATT)

>>61817413
P10 will work, Honor 9 won't.

>>61817084
Redmi Note 4 (in the sub 150USD bracket).
You gotta define your budget though.

>>61817250
Lg g6

>>61817250
Xiaomi Mi6

What do you baby dicks think about Nokia 8? Gonna be tits? I'm considering it. I will wait a month after release to make tbe choice though and watch some reviews.

i had an lg g3 that drained its battery in about 4 hour. Even with the screen off, the screen accounted for 59% battery usage. Are the lg g4 and lg g5 the same with battery drain?

>>61817784
Buy LG g4 at your own risk. Mother fucker is a lemon. Even with LG admitting and replacing the models that bootloop, REM is a pain. Mine is currently sitting in its box at home. I'm currently banned for threatening LG headquarters with a pipe bomb.

Consider getting any Moto phone. They're stock Android, decent to high end specs, and solid devices.

>>61817784
Well the G4 bootloops, but the G5 has a chipset more ideally suited for 1440p duties than the G3 did, so it's SoT and standby time are way better

>>61817855
>I'm currently banned for threatening LG headquarters with a pipe bomb.

geez what a bunch of assholes over there at lg

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>>61817855
>I'm currently banned for threatening LG headquarters with a pipe bomb

Good ~$200 phone? Getting a little sick of my LG Optimus and its tiny ass internal storage with no Android update that allows your SD card to become internal. Could probably jailbreak, but maybe it's time for a new cheap phone anyway.

>>61817855
what about a moto droid maxx 2? has good battery life with good enough ram and cpu. the camera could be better, but is their any suggestions on phones that are similar? Don't want to spend a lot of money.

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>>61817869
>>61817873
>Falling for this shit bait
Bunch a brainlets in here

>>61817884
Huawei Honor 6X just got dropped to $199 and it's a damn good phone on Nougat

>>61817899
Welcome to /g/

>>61817925
>welcome
Perennial newfag, but damn /g/ has dropped in quality over the past year, I blame plebbit

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>>61817899
I wish it was bait anon. I made what I thought was a humourous, if not autistic post on their support forums. This fucking website has irreparably warped my sense of humor.

>>61817959
>if not autistic
You threatened to pipe bomb LG HQ, you're damn right it was autistic you moron, do you have a screen cap?

How much ram is really needed in a 2017 android?

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>>61817980
I bet it's on his bricked G4

>>61818080
If you don't have 8 gigs you're not a power user.

>>61818080
3GB is enough

>>61818144
Im too autistic to have an odd number for RAM.

>>61818159
Well 2 isn't enough so get 4.

>>61818144
It kind of isn't tho

>>61818215
Explain

>>61818249
I have a 3GB RAM ZTE phone on MM and I used to have a 4GB Asus on MM and there's a big difference in mukti-tasking between the two with the advantage to the Asus phone, 3GB is good in keeping everything moving smoothly, but its still lacking wnough memory not to force apps to reload when you jump between them

>>61818303
Unless you're leaving literally every app open there's barely any difference

>>61818403
Nah man, I continuously close apps, 3GB is just not enough to prevent app reloads

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Give me a reason not to get or a better alternative to the ZTE Axon 7.

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Why is MTP so shit? Moving files would be instant if I could just mount my Nexus 7's file system like a normal removable device. Is there any way to do this easily and reliably?

>>61818436
Maybe your phone is full of bloatware because I have like 15 apps loaded and none of them reload

>>61818303
>>61818436
Maybe the ZTE just has shitty memory management?

>>61818303
werks on my machine
Though obviously it matters how many apps you open.
I only use ~10 apps on my phone.

>>61818565
I've disabled all bloatware that I don't use, the Blade V8 Pro didn't come with any
>>61818573
That's what I'm thinking
>>61818574
I don't use all the apps all the time or leave them running in the background, I kill them as soon as I'm done with them

>>61818634
>That's what I'm thinking
Look it up, I had to change some developers options to stop that shit in my chinkphone.

>>61817731
Too expensive and bland. Hoping there's a 7 with a SD660

>>61817084

Just buy an old flagship for $100 and dont be a fag.

>>61818674
What specific search term?

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So what's the catch with Xiaomeme? How do they have such good specs at such a low price?
I'm trying to rationalize my Moto G4 Play purchase, but the Redmi 3S sounds better on just about everything and it would've been cheaper. I'm tempted to keep the Moto for the Nougat update as well.
Should I even care for an octacore and an Adreno 505 over a quadcore with Adreno 306 if all I do is play GBC/GBA emulators and a couple 3D games that already run fine in the G4P on low settings?

>>61818714
Poor build quality
Shit camera
Non existant customer support

>>61818707
probably [your phone] + memory optimization / multitasking / etc

Is there a reliable and seamless way to measure community/developer support for phones? I could care less about hardware since almost every Android OEM uses one of maybe 5 chipsets

>>61818766
Snapdragon is always a good bet

>>61818714
I can only tell you about redmeme note 4 global:
Bad camera (still good enough for passable photos when sightseeing (if the weather is good) and perfectly readable photos of notes/textbooks). If you don't care about camera it's a great phone.
Apart from specs which you can easily look up I can tell you it has way better cellphone reception than my previous phone (LG K10), good, very clear headphone output, good speaker, passable mic. It feels snappy, screen obviously looks good, fingerprint is fairly quick (maybe half a second).

LG V30 is gonna be my endgame. I just hope it won't cost a fortune, because I want to buy it as soon as possible, since I've played the waiting game for too long and my S4 is starting to really worry me.

>>61818766
look at the miui forums

>>61818752
See, I did everything recommended for my phone and it still reloads apps, and all I did was switch between gmail, messenger, and Clover and Gmail and messenger needed to be restarted, this is bullshit

>>61818733
>>61818838
If you absolutely had to choose between the two I mentioned, which would you pick? Consider that I don't give two shits about the camera or this fingerprint sensor thing because I'm like a bitter old man and pattern lock is what I've always used, and if I buy the 3S locally it has a warranty regardless in case of any defect within 2 years.
Also, is there an ETA for Nougat on G4 devices yet? You should know I'm switching from a shitty LG L50 Sporty, so using the relatively low spec G4 Play is still blowing me away. That, and I don't know what Nougat offers over Marshmallow anyway, or if it's enough to warrant me keeping the Moto.

Should've gone with the meme, it works great on 3GB

What meme

>>61818986
>>61818964
cont
At that point maybe find some custom ROM for your phone, as 3GB is enough for a good ROM

>>61819034
Problem is there is zero Dev support despite having a 625

>>61819030
The redmeme

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>went from Redmi Note 3
>touchscreen started fucking up a year in (thanks 1-year warranty for ending a week too early)
>downgraded to Galaxy Note 3, didn't like old processor and no fingerprint
>bought Mi 5s for dat 821 at $300
>fingerprint is absolute horseshit, but phone works breddygud, much nicer than old note 3

>>61818975
>I don't know what Nougat offers over Marshmallow anyway

-dual window multi-tasking is pretty sweet
-some apps have the equivilant to apples force touch (hold down the messenger icon and you can choose a specific contact rather than go to the main screen and find that person, hold chrome to immediately open a new tab)
-some other niffty new features i don't remember because i've used nougat for so long but it's pretty nice

>>61819049
Many devices got nugat already, redmi note 4 will get it in a few months (it's the budget line after all, mi gets prority). You can get official beta right now though.
Anyway all Xiamoi phones get plenty of custom ROMs so you are good for a long time

My galaxy s4 lasted 3yrs before the gps unit gave out, this made me wonder, are refurbished phones worth it if it means having a shorter usage time because parts like the gps are already partially worn?

>>61819199
is gps that important you ditch a phone because it breaks?
for me gps is like the a/c in my car, i almost never use it so it could not work and i wouldn't even know it.

>>61819181
I don't have a Xiaomi phone, I have a ZTE Blade V8 Pro

Can somebody please tell me what SoC of the Snapdragon range I need to emulate PSP smootly? Is a 626 good enoug?

>>61819274
Sorry I got my conversations confused.
It sucks then.

>>61819277
Rule of thumb:
More is always better, try and get a 820 phone with a lower resolution screen like a LeEco LePro 3

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Whats a good phone I can buy as a present to a person with shitty old phone from 3 years ago with 8gb of internal memory? 200$ is my max and it would be nice if the phone had 32gb internal memory and a micro sd slot.

>>61819306
Tell me about it, I thought people, specifically developers, would be all over this thing considering it was cheap, had a 625, nfc, DAC, and USB-C but noooooo

>>61819311
Country?

>>61819253
Important enough in a city where navigation is a nightmare even when you aren't going somewhere new

>>61819356
Poland

>>61819375
Redmi Note 4 Global

>>61819308
I'm pretty much set on getting a Moto Z. With the mods available I feel like it'd be the perfect phone for me. Also I need the AMOLED screen.
The question is which one though. I'd love dual sim, but the regular Z doesn't come with that. That's why I'm thinking about getting the Z2 play once it's available here for ~300€ or something.

reason I want dualsim is that you can get like 5gb of LTE for 10€ here, but as soon as you want anything else, like 100 free minutes, you're in for 30€+. I don't even need a flat, but those LTE cards don't come with a phone number and so I need a cheap prepaid card to use the smart device as a telephone.

>>61819393
Jesus fuck, this is so cheap with amazing specs. Thanks anon!

>>61819366
>even when you aren't going somewhere new
you need directions to go somewhere you've been before?

also in 2017 i still just write down the directions from google maps if i'm going somewhere new.

>>61819398
Moto Z Play? Why not Asus Zenfone 4?

>>61819311
I'd say redmi Note 4, but normalfags will be more satisfied with a known brand so maybe go for Nokia 6.

>>61818964
Tried this?
http://phandroid.com/2017/02/10/zte-blade-v8-pro-ram-management-fix/

>>61819413
Only bad thing is a poor camera. Do you know if that person will care?
If it's somebody who doesn't game but wants a good camera then Nokia 6 has flagship-tier camera, OK battery and SoC that is still enough for casual use (browser, social media, messages, calls, streaming).

>>61819469
Yeah, did all that already and was actually the article I went to when told to Google it lol

>>61818766
Google "*phone model* + XDA" and check the amount of ROMs available in the development section

>>61819493
>flagship tier camera
lelno

>>61819437
I was thinking about the Z play as well, but idk about the processor. I don'tdo much with smartphones. I need it for work and surfing, I don't do much fancy shit, but maybe emulators.

I dislike asus in general, I made some bad experiences with them and would like to avoid them if possible. Also that keyboard mod for the Z on Indiegogo looks tasty af.

>>61819511
See the comparisons.
Or were all the different comparisons people posted when I last visited /spg/ pure shilling? I think I even googled it and only found very positive opinions.

Is Leeco Le 2 with Lineageos good enough or should I just get a RN4G?

>>61819513
Yeah but chances of that keyboard actually coming out are slim, just like every other GoFundMe type project, have you considered the ZTE Axon 7?

>>61819494
There's probably something you can edit in the build.prop to make it better. With the OP3 it was enough to change the number of background apps to fix the multitasking
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-fix-the-oneplus-3s-memory-management-almost-double-the-apps-in-memory/

>>61819543
All the reviews I've seen for the camera say it's a typical mid range camera

are the leica lenses on huawei phones overrated

>>61819568
I'll have to give it a shot, hopefully they have the correct commands to use through ADB considering it's not rooted

>>61819569
You are right.
Seems like I fell for some shilling.

>>61819553
Well, I'm an optimist. Apparently the release is soon and then I'll know more.

>ZTE Axon 7
That's a lot of specs for the money, no question, but I feel like I don't need much of the stuff this phone offers. Also I'm afraid of the stuff those chinks usually cheap out on, like the audio quality. A phone with shitty audio is next to worthless to me. I just don't trust the chinks, usually they cheap out on something and it's nearly always the stuff that's important to me.


Also I'm really into the modular design. The gamepad looks nice, the battery extension looks like something I'd definitely use and I want to get that power delivery USB-C power bank for my Elitebook anyway, so I could use it to load my Moto as well. If the keyboard becomes a reality, it'd be my perfect smartphone, apart from android maybe, but there's not really any good competitor, so I got to go with the flow.

>>61819636
Are Daewoo cars any better because they get the chevy badge?

>>61816579
7s

why wouldn't I buy the ZTE Axon 7?

>>61819685
The Axon 7 actually has excellent audio quality
http://www.androidauthority.com/taking-audio-next-level-zte-axon-7-706898/

>>61819685
Well it seems you're dead set on it, but just in case you can't wait for it to drop to the price the Axon 7 definitely didn't cheap out as far as the DAC is concerned, it's a top rated performer and was given editors choice of several Android publications, just food for thought

>>61819830
too expensive

>>61819896
looking at swedish prices I can't find anything better. what would you recommend at a similar price class?

>>61819896
For who?

Anyone has an idea when Moto z play EU will receive update or what the latest update is?

>>61819398
Regular Z play has dual SIM, source: me, bought it especially for that reason for travelling

>>61819964
I know the Z play got it, but not the Z with Snapdragon 820 and no headphone jack.

>>61819851
That site doesn't exactly look like it knows what it's talking about. Mulit BA Inears usually perform shitty without next to 0 Ohm sources and they don't even slice that very important topic.
For example the iphone is pretty much as good as it gets in that regard, I'm pretty sure the ZTE won't be able to best that.
But anyway, I doubt that they lie entirely, the audio probably isn't bad.
Thanks for the input!
>>61819873
I think I'll just make it dependent on the keyboard. If it happens, it's supposed to be shipped in like half a month, I'll get the Moto, if not, I'll take a look for the Axon or maybe something else entirely. Thanks for your help kind anon

>>61820039
>The Axon 7 sports dual Hi-Fi audio chips, which are designed to please audiophiles looking to hear as much sonic detail as possible. I took advantage of the phone's audio muscle to stream some Hi-Fi tracks on Tidal with headphones on, which allowed Thrice's "Hurricane" to hit extra hard with thick bass and slamming percussion. However, I didn't notice a huge difference when I played the same track in Hi-Fi on my iPhone.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/zte-axon-7,review-3815.html

Thinking of getting a pixel, Caprphone warehouse are doing them for £400, doesnt seem much of an upgrade from an lg g4 tho...

>>61820114
It's a huge upgrade over the G4, the fuck you on about m8?

>>61820123
I guess, I dont use my phone for much so the main appeal is consistrtent updates. Plus I am mentally comparing it to oneplus or the G6.

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>>61819773
Ahah

>>61820142
The Pixel will have the most consistent updates of any phone, how is this a question?

>>61820256
Its not a question, I am just cheap and reluctant to spend.

>>61819923
LG V20 is around 400 as well, dont know what they have in europe though

>>61820113
ugh

>>61820039
you could always get an external dac. with more and more android phones dropping the headphone jack companies are bound to make decent slim usb-c dacs for phones like they do for the iPhone

>>61820320
USB-C actually can output analog sound. You don't NEED an external dac, if the manufacturer knows what he's doing.
Not everything without a headphone jack needs an external dac, unlike the iPhone 7

>>61820269
Unless you can get the OnePlus for cheaper than that, it's your best bet la
>>61820320
>ugh
What did he mean by this?

>>61820356
holy shit so headphone jack fags are just memeing and you can just use the included adapter and it will work just as well as with a headphone jack. still getting a dac can make sense if you listen to music a lot on your phone

>>61820432
Have fun horsing around with a shitty adapter while I can just plug the jack in.

>>61820432
They communicated that really, really, shitty. Google it and you'll find basically no tech portal reporting on it more than "USB-C can, in theory, do that, maybe, in the near future... or so, we'll see"

If there was something like the moto mod for all kind of smartphones, something you just glue to the back, that'd make me all over it, but the idea of having a DAC connected to my phone through a seperate cable makes me throw up in my mouth. I used to have a portable KHV and hated it for that very reason. It's just kinda shitty to handle. I'd much rather just buy a cowon or something.

>>61820432
>have manual labor job
>have to use dongle
>dongle gets stuck on shit and unplugs all day erry day
>never have that problem with just headphones

>>61820542
>keep the adapter connected to the plug
>just have to plug in one cable
It's literally like using the regular plug. I understand the hate for phones that waste internal space and don't implement a jack (see iphone 7), but there's literally nothing wrong for like 50% of users if you leave out the headphone jack.

>>61820581
just bigger and harder to handle, more prone to disconnect
only shitty phones don't have the jack anyway so no real reason to compromise

>>61820561
>>have manual labor job

Found the mistake.

>>61820610
Well I can just argue on base of the Moto Z as that's the only phone I know that doesn't have one for a reason.
It's really thin, thinner than a headphone jack and with the mods you can use the saved thickness and add features you like, without bloating the phone too much.
Large battery? possible
better camera? shitty solution so far, but in theory
better sound? Sure, why not
possibly even adding a controller
all without some stupid cables floating around, or fucking BT draining your battery.
I like that very much, but you pretty much need a thin phone as base to make the idea worthwhile

>>61816132
it's harder to steal a fingerprint than a ring

thinking of buying an S8, is there anything I should keep in mind before pulling the trigger?

>>61820432
why not just use type c headphones?

>>61820824
>why not just use type c headphones?
why not just use a connector that has been an industry standard for decades and works with everything?

3.5mm jack will work with my laptop, cellphone, desktop, ps4, ipod, and car stereo

usb-c will work on my phone and thats it.

>>61820899
USB-C will replace the jack there as well. If you haven't noticed, the aim is to replace every connector out there with USB-C, or at least make the ports USB-C compatible (see thunderbolt)
You have to start somewhere

>>61820983
>USB-C will replace the jack there as well.
when you replace the devices, i'm not going to buy a new laptop, and desktop just to use my new usb-c headphones. my ipod isn't going to just sprout a usb-c port one day, and the tons of other devices i have wont get usb-c.

its a shit standard for anything other than data transfer, just accept it already for fuck sakes.

>>61821035
If I accept it or not doesn't matter.
The manufacturers are going to push the standard, soon laptops will support it, then mp3 players and then you'll only find native USB-C headphones.
If you want them on your iPod without USB-C you'll just have to use a converter :^)

Be happy it's not like with the Lightning scam because if I'm not mistaken, that one really doesn't support analogue output.

>>61818466
lg v20 is a good alternativ

>>61820899
my laptop is the only thing i use my 3.5mm jack for, and i dont even use my laptop much.
Cellphone has usbtype c headphones
desktop has a headset
ps4 has the same headset
i havent used an ipod/mp3 since 2011
my car stereo also uses type c or bluetooth, my phone came with an adapter that i just plugged into the car aux chord and i havent removed it since.

When i go to the gym, lecture, library and stores everyone is using bluetooth anyways.

>>61821104
oh you're just over exaggerating i get it now.

>>61817784
I've had the G4 for over a year, the battery drains like crazy when data is on, which i dont care for since im usually on wifi and i get to charge it often. I will last over half a day with no issues through mid to heavy use.

I really love the damn thing, but the "4k" screen is really a gimmick as you dont notice and it really kills the battery

>>61821175
>oh you're just over exaggerating i get it now.
I'm really not. Give it 5 years and you'll not see any smartphones, or maybe even laptops with headphone jacks. another 3 and you won't see headphones with them anymore. But it won't be that bad, as you can just use an adapter from USB-C. As long as it supports analog output that is.
If they ever go to digital out I'm all with you on your crusade against this insanity.

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>Waiting for a good stock android phone

>>61819366
>>61819420
lol, i know the feeling of getting lost in your fucking hometown.

Sometimes you need directions from the point youre at, and sometimes you need to take an alternative route because the usual route is shit at that moment

>>61821236
nokia 6

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>>61821217
so 3.5mm delievers better sound quality than usb c?

I'm thinking of Purchasing the Moto Z Play. The battery life is very appealing and I'm wondering if it would be a good phone to get considering I don't play mobile games. Also how easy it is to root and install a rom on, since I'm thinking of installing CM13 on it.

>>61821269
As long as it's analog it won't differ. It's just a smaller standard and that's what the manufacturers want. The quality has nothing to do with that.
Smartphones get thinner, laptops too. In 5-10 years laptops will be as thin as the Moto Z, there'll simply be no space for the jack.

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I have a Samsung S4 that is soft bricked, it gets stuck on "just a sec" when I turn it on and set it up. So I've been trying to flash firmware onto it using Odin. When the computer does recognise my phone, Odin gets stuck on "SetupConnection" or "Get PIT for mapping". It has never gone past those two. I have used every different type of Odin, 16 different USB cables and 3 different computers. Other times when I plug my phone in I get the MTP USB driver error. It's usually a Code 10 (device failed to start) but sometimes I just straight up get "Windows doesn't recognize this device".

I have looked up every video, read every forum and tried every fix I possibly can but am still failing to do something that should be incredibly simple. My brain feels fried and I genuinely don't know what else to do. Can somebody please help me before I shoot myself?

>>61821217
>all digital audio output
Are you retarded? How would that even be possible?

>>61821470
your phone just sends the files to a dac that has to be in the headphones/somewhere in between.

>>61821249
MMmmm I might try the 4G version

>>61821496
No shit, you always need to convert it to analog one way or another

>>61821414
I know nobodys ever gonna help me and I sound like a scrub, whatever.

so i'll plug the phone in one second, it recognises it as a MTP USB Device, and the driver fails to download. So I unplug the phone and plug it back in. Windows does not recognise this USB device. HOW THE FUCK can it recognize it as Android one second then not know what the fuck it's doing the next? FUCK I FUCKING HATE COMPUTERS

>2:1 aspect ratio
>curved corners
>butt ugly design
>a squeezable frame
>fuckhuge camera lens
>no headphone jack
>made by LG, home of the neverending bootloop
>always-on display
We made fun of Google for the first Pixel but now they've completely shat the bed. Oh well, at least we get dual speakers this time.

Pixel 2 DOA

Best case for G4 Play?

>>61815564
Looking for purchasing advice.
I'm in Canada and I'll be on the Koodo network. The main features I want are good battery life, microSD slot and stock android (or close to it, at least). My budget is fairly flexible, but cheaper is always better and I'm not that concerned about size either.

>>61821565
>Connect phone to computer
>Tap on the "Connected as media device" notification
>Choose USB Storage device

Turn of USB debugging if you somehow enabled that

>>61820899
times are changing, it's only awkward now during the transition, and even now it's not that awkward

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>tfw my s7 edge fell out of my truck onto pavement facefirst with no scratches or cracks
PHEW That's a good 4 feet

>>61821684
Yeah, when I do that I get a Code 10 (Device cannot start). I have performed every fix that comes up on Google when I search it and none of them work.

I cannot turn of USB Debugging on the device or put the device into MTP mode as it is softlocked and I cannot access settings. Thanks for replying my dude

>>61821731
>I cannot turn of USB Debugging on the device or put the device into MTP mode as it is softlocked
If the device is soft locked i doubt it will work correctly with windows matey.

Did you fuck up when you tried to flash it?

>>61821818
Really? I figured as long as Odin or Kies recognised it I could flash some firmware on it.

What happened is I had it rooted with Kingo Root. a few months after that I factory reset the phone, not realizing I should have unrooted before doing so. When I turned the phone on after the reset, the phone gets stuck on "Just a Sec" when trying to do the initial boot up.

You think it's fucked for good then? I really thought Odin would have been a simple fix but with all the shit I've had with USB ports and Drivers and cables I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible to fix

>>61821818
on the phone try switching from mass storage device to camera.

also if it fails to automatically download the driver just download and install manually.

Just got an S8+
Only prob I have with it right now is bad headset jack placement. Like, why on the bottom?

Also, what is a better front for apps? I'm done using googleplay store.

>>61821869
Can't access the phone's settings.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled all Samsung drivers, MTP drivers and my USB drivers. nothing changed. Right now I can't do shit because I get "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)". even though it was being recognized all day.

>>61821872
You could try F-Droid.

>>61821890
can you atleast get to the bootloader?

i would try putting a firmware on the sd card to flash from, then you don't need to rely on connecting to the computer to get the firmware.

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>>61821862
>>61821869
>>61821890
>>61821818
so after an hour of Code 43 (device malfunctioned) and my phone being an "unknown device" I take it out, plug it back in and get this. I figure as long as I have the MTP driver installed and working, I'll be able to flash firmware with Odin or Kies. Is that true? I know I'm off topic and asking for help and I'm really sorry but I just wanna try and get through this issue and I don't think I can do it on my own

>>61821236
arnt all the motorola phones stock?

>>61822075
>can you atleast get to the bootloader
I don't believe so. I'm not 100% on what that is but after looking it up I don't think so. All I can do it hold power key+home+volume up and that takes me to a menu where I can wipe the cache partition and factory reset and other such things. Sorry if my lack of knowledge makes it hard to understand what I'm saying.

That's a good idea actually, will try that as soon as I can get an SD card. Thanks again for replying man

>>61821872
The jack on the bottom allows you to hold your phone in your hand and put it in your pocket in a single motion.
Jack in top makes much less sense.

>>61821890
The "change USB type" setting is hidden under developer settings. It is a pain to dig up, but if you need it, you need it.

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I'll be buying an S8, but I'll probably need a case and/or a screen protector.

Any recommendations? It's been years since I last bought a phone.

>>61822137
that is the bootloader screen, i'm also just assuming you have a sd card since it's samsung but they usually come with one from what i've seen.

have you tried plugging the phone in while it's in the bootloader? i don't know if it will let you access the storage but it's atleast worth a shot, worst case scenerio is you waste 30 seconds.

>>61821872
>bad headset jack placement. Like, why on the bottom?
you'll get used to it pretty quickly, i actually started to prefer it due to how the cable falls when your holding it. i'm getting my new phone tomorrow and it has the jack on top and i'm not looking forward to that.

>>61822187
>S8
>need a case

I'm curious about this too. Won't a case cover some of the screen since it goes to the edge? Seems like a potential design flaw.

>really want to buy the pixel but still want to wait for the pixel 2.

Torture

What are the best PC to Android root programs out there for 6.0.1?

>>61822201
Aye, it did come with an SD card but I don't have it anymore. sadly I don't have an SD card reader so I couldn't put the firmware onto it right now anyway. Definitely something I'll try in the future though, when I have some money anyway

>>61822262
alot is known already about pixel 2, if what we know hasn't turned you off wait or get a pixel used or refurbished then upgrade later.

if you're turned off just get a new one and call it a day. they dropped the price, and you can get a free day dream if you buy from google.

>>61822293
did you try plugging the phone into the computer while it's on the bootloader and see if that helps do what you're trying to accomplish?

>>61822336
Yeah, I can't apply update from ADB, external storage or the cache. Also the MTP driver did not install.

>>61822288
Anyone? I tried kingroot and kingoroot and neither worked so I'm wondering if anyone knows something else to try?

>>61822362
generally it depends on the phone, there isn't really a one size fits all option.

>>61822399
Chinkphone with snapdragon chipset, which one would you recommend?

>>61822420
i'd recomend googling your phone model and root, or there are forums like xda or androidforums that have tons of info based on each model.

>>61822451
I'm the guy from earlier with the Blade V8 Pro, that's why I'm trying different root programs to see if one can actually do it

>>61822488
is the bootloader unlocked in the developer options?

>>61822640
It is now

>>61822656
try it again, you need it unlocked to root any phone. also sometimes you have to run kingoroot acouple times.

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Are there any actual benchmarks of phone cameras anywhere on the internet?
It seems that most info about phone cameras is just hearsay and folklore.

I always thought that the Xperia line had the best camera performance out of androids, but upon researching further, it's not impressive at all.

From what I've personally seen, high end xiaomis and LG v20 actually have the best camera/software performance.

>>61822675
Kingoroot fails then crashes everytime I run it, trying Kingroot right now

Is MIUI shit?

>>61822776
And KingRoot 3.5 fails

>>61822858

you cannot root the blade v8 pro.

>>61822843
I'm not having any problems.
It adds a few additional options in the settings (some of them not so entirely stupid) and forces you to change launcher if you want to be aesthetic. Oh and you have to turn off their memory optimization, it's dogshit. It also adds some bloat, but all Mi bloat apps are removable (apart from security, but it's not a big problem). I really like the tight permission control. Or is it a part of vanilla 6.0? Anyway no major nuisances for me.
YMMV

>>61818080
At least 8gb if you want to compete with 2 year old iPhones

How bad are the updates on Android if you don't have one of those "stock" Google ones? I'm considering leaving iPhone, but this is one of my biggest concerns. Also, how does the app store compare?

>>61822940
I'm finding that to be true unfortunately

>>61822995
One of the big issues with android is how many hands updates have to go trough to get to your phone.
Take a T mobile Galaxy S5 with a snapdragon 801

Qualcomm has to make a android kernel for any particular android version lets say 6.0.

Then Samsung has to make it work for there S5 and then push the update.

Oh no, Tmobile has to have there hand in also to "test" and add there own apps and customization.

If that isn't enough carries like to stagger rollout which can delay updates further.
You quit receiving updates when one of these companies decide they don't want to update no more. For the S5 it was qualcomm that decided not to update the kernel to android 7.

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Is this shit any good?

>>61823276
Been hearing decent things about it, shame about the TouchWiz though

>>61823189
So is Pixel the only one right now that receives prompt updates?

>>61823396
pixel or nexus

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>>61790677
I know it really late but thank you for your answer anon. I really appreciate it.

>>61823396
It usually receives updates as soon as a new android version rolls out.
Still very much at the mercy of the chip vender.

>>61823322
I tried it on a store today and it feels pretty solid, it also looks and feels nice, but yeah, TouchWiz...

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>>61815564
Is lineage os odexed?

>>61823575
i don't know about the pro, but my mom like her regular j7 once she got used to the difference between touch jizz and stock android. build quality seems pretty solid on it. my dad has the j3 and it's not bad either. samsungs only main issue is generally in the software.

https://www.essential.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzYmI-6PL1QIVDA9pCh2trwPaEAAYAiAAEgLt__D_BwE
>great design (subjectively)
>good specs
>solid construction
>no bloat
>OK price
>optional gimmick

>no headphone jack

Why is there always some fucking retarded compromise. I've yet to find one phone that feels worth it over my s4.

>>61822247
The cases swoop down and don't cover the edges, they figured this shit out years ago.

>>61822187
>buy flashy phone
>cover it with a case

How is the Moto Z Force? Any major issues?

>>61823654
deodexed by the looks of it, no odex files and Lineage is like ~300MB total so no room to fit any odex in the rom itself

>>61824417
Flashyness is purely for marketing, it was never meant to add anything useful just look cool for suckers

>>61823396
pretty much, not all other brands are terrible, but they lag behind especially on their non-flagship phones

>>61824417
Aren't there many reports of Galaxy S8's cracking, even with Otterboxes on?

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Apparently no-root firewall didn't autostart, and I got some fake news app malware. Stupid Chink phone. (bottom left)

>>61823189
Why can't they just do it like Windows and iOS? PC makers also add their own bloatware on top of Windows but they don't need to "test" the updates before Windows Update delivers them to you, same for iOS.

Blade V8 Pro anon here, don't buy one
I've been fucking about trying to get into the bootloader after getting into recovery with the OEM Unlock setting on and off, and the device just won't let me, the bootloader is completely locked up by ZTE
However I did discover that if you press volume down and power upon startup that it causes the screen to go black with a white square in the middle of the screen with the letters "FTM" in black letter in the middle of the box

>>61823484
Who is this cute girl.

>>61824740
Carriers like to have control over devices it sells. I have no idea all the bullshit that goes behind the scenes with OEMs and carriers but I do know they can't fuck with iOS, Apple won't have any of it. As for Windows PCs being a open platform in general and I assume agreements with microsoft, no point in OEMs trying to control what is on a users PC after its been shipped. Cost more money than its worth.

>>61824879
If Apple has that leverage over carriers, why doesn't Google?

>>61824740
>PC makers also add their own bloatware on top of Windows

Ugh... All that useless Lenovo crap I have to uninstall every time I restore my laptop to factory settings.

>>61821678
ZTE Axon 7 or Moto G5 plus for good mid tier phones. If you want a flagship then I would wait for Nokia 8, LG V30, and Pixel 2.

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>>61824862

>>61824968
Google isn't well known as a phone maker, its just another android phone in the ocean of android phones. Also google has no leverage over any non-google OEM's phones sold at carriers. iPhones are too valuable to lose, If T-mobile said to apple that it isn't selling another IPhone if they can't inject there shit during an update. Apple would drop T-mobile and Tmo would lose half its subscibers

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>>61818714
also considering a Xiaome, but don't want to import after my last non-US phone was shit

BLU has shit phones, stay away.

>>61825241
So Google just doesn't give a shit what Samsung etc does with their operating system?

Which rom is the most stable for the Redmi Note 3? I'm tired of reading through xda and drowning myself in broken English, also they provide no good feedback at all.

I'm between Lineage and Nitrogen. I'm only looking for something stable, my last experience with them early this year was terrible.

>>61825469
AOSP is FOSS, google can't do shit

Where do I buy replacement parts? Specifically for my samsung galaxy s5? The bottom microphone has stopped working so I need to replace the charging board.

I'm just not sure on whats a reputable place to get parts from

>>61818840
Why

>>61825539
The worst thing they could do is not allow the play store on let say Samsung's phones, of course it would do more harm than good and just cause android to be more fragmented

>>61818714
1.) be super careful about the model type, because international does not always mean chargers will fit US based hardware
2.) almost zero customer support because overseas
3.) cameras are generally shit
4.) Slight computer science/maybe jap/china language to get the most of them
5.) I know your animes use them but sometimes you have to not let weebism blind you

Moto G5s Plus is coming out this month or "this fall". The Moto G5Plus is an amazing phone for what you pay for and I hope the G5s will be a repeat

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Reply to this post if your phone has built-in phone call recording function

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I'm so tempted, this is a pretty good price. Should I...?

>>61825874
It's your money, waste it if you want to

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will it crash and burn?

How good is the moto G5 plus at taking selfies? Will it run Snapchat?

>>61826401
It hasn't even taken off yet
>>61826472
>Will it run Snapchat?
What are you, a 17 year old girl? Probably not because Snapchat is demanding and I wouldn't try to run it with anything less than a SD652

>>61825628
The G5S looks like a massive meme to me. The improvements are just the most insignificant things, the guts are exactly the same except for crap like an extra MP on the camera or dust resistance.
Maybe I'm just being a bitter asshole but I don't see it being a big buzz over the regular G5+.
Then again, I'm not one to care about camera quality or said little things so maybe my opinion is biased.

>>61826401
what phone is this , it looks pretty

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>>61826745
Essential PH-1

The website is pure autistic scrolling nonsense, you can buy it soon at like 700$ or through sprint i think on contract once it launches.

Specs look ok and seems to have minimal to no glued together shit.

Amazon is heavily investing in it apparently.

No headphone jack for some fucking stupid reason.

Nexus 5x for $100
Yes/no

What phone is better than a note 4? Price doesn't matter, prefer verizon.

>>61816506
Is the g6 as comfy as a 5 ich phone, g6 and HTC 10 have almost the same physical size, can I root the g6?

Is there an app for android that lets me use my other misc acquired music?

bought a g5+ today after my iphone 5 died from gravity

>>61827065
You mean a music player?

So, is Nougat ever coming out for G4 devices or will Lenovo bail out of it?
I can only find people pissy in the forums dating up to just a couple days ago because not even security updates are coming through. Hell, my G4 Play is still on last year's September update and it tells me it's up to date.
Is there something I'm missing? Are updates pushed out depending on region or carrier or I've even seen someone mention baseband version to be related to the whole thing.

>>61827065
Literally anything on Android that isn't itunes.

>>61827083
sure? first android phone

>>61827115
You could either use play music as it's built in, or else use power amp it's a decent music player

>>61827065
theres itunes for android. but >>61827131 said it better

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OnePlus 5 or Google Pixel

I really like the specs of the OnePlus, but it's a little bit of a pain to get in this country and for some stupid reason I'm dead set on getting a white phone with an easy google assistant.

Do you guys reckon they perform much differently with the raw specs or does the build quality squeeze them a lot closer? Any opinions on this Oxygen OS shit they've got going on?

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>>61825874

well, I did it. Let's hope I don't regret this. Should be a nice upgrade from my S5.

>>61827115
What format is the music? If it's an apple proprietary format like mp4 or aac your going to have to convert it to mp3 or another universal format. If you right click the song in iTunes it should give you the option to convert it unless you bought it like 10 years ago.

>>61827148
Both of them are plagued with hardware issues, oxygen os is pretty much stock Android just that the updates cycle is slower, get the pixel unless you play gaymes

>>61827175
be super careful or get one of those shock absorbing covers. camera is fragile, not thin non tempered glass fragile but damn. most complaints from many sites/friends are about the cam breaking. solid phone tho

>>61827175
Nice price. It's a weird time to be upgrading S5s, personally I'm sick of Samsung I've had them since the 1st galaxy but I have no idea what else to get aye.

Do you guys always buy phones outright?
In Aus I've always just gotten them on plans for basically free but I'm not keen to spend $70/m $80/m extra for 2 years for another samsung.

>>61827178
for older stuff its easy enough to just use another program to convert mp4's, like foobar

>>61827208
Cheers, hardware issues?

>>61827230
In most cases you end up paying extra with these plans compared to getting an unlocked phone and and unlimited plan, but do check the validity of this statement for your country and Australia has really fucked up telecommunications

>>61827256
Well the op5 has jelly effects on its screen and pixel had some speakerphone issue iirc

>>61827211
yeah I will. I rarely drop my phone (maybe twice in last 5 years), but I've heard the S8 can be kinda slippery.

>>61827230

Most people I know pay for them on plans, for flagships anyway. I had some money saved up, so I'm paying this outright.

>>61827256
Diff anon here,
OnePLus 5 has "jelly screen"

Basically they mounted the LCD upside down and flipped the picture, so they screen seems to rubber band when you scroll.

You can sometimes recreate this by locking your current phones screen rotation to portrait mode, holding your phone upside down, and then scrolling back and forth.

I don't know whats wrong with the pixel other then I think its really fucking ugly and too expensive.

>>61827316
Farout, so wtf does everyone get these days? Samsung, iPhones & chink blocks?

>>61827329
Their are no prefect phones, the xaomi note 4x comes pretty close or else you have to compromise in one department or the other

>>61827244
Burning as an audio CD and then re-ripping it also works if you don't want to install extra software.

>Mi6 has perfect specs
>Loads cheaper than the competition
>Live in Asian country and can buy it locally i.e. with warranty
And then turns out it has no fucking Band 20 LTE so I can't get a LTE signal when I go to Bongland which I do twice a year. Why can't it just support more LTE bands, would that add so much more cost when they are using a SD835 anyway? Guess I'm getting the fucking G6 after all.

>>61827548
>no headphone Jack
>perfect phone
Wew

>>61827610
luddite

>>61826401
Not enough info on it; supposed to finally get a release date next week.

>>61827610

>abloo bloo bloo

>>61827678
>>61827639
>many cars still have aux lines
>bluetooth radio interference
>sometimes listen to people watching porn in public places

I am in the midwest USA and am on Verizon. Looking for a phone at around ~$400, $500 is the absolute most I'm really willing to pay unless someone has a very good reason for going a bit over budget. want the best phone I can get in that price range. Camera isn't too important, but having something decent would be nice. Want to make sure it has a good processor and ram, as well as at least 32GB of storage minimum(my current temp phone has 8GB and like 6GB is just the stupid OS) Would like at least a 1080p display and decent speakers, preferably on the front of the phone, but as long as the placement isn't retarded like the back where you hold it I'll take it at the right price. Would like it to be pretty clear and able to get pretty loud. I generally have to deal with a lot of noise and loud fans. I also want to be able to hear my music over my car engine while driving(it's pretty loud). Finally it should have good touch rejection while still be responsive while necessary. I'm sick of accidental clicks in my pocket. I was looking at the OP5 for a while, but it looks like they don't fully support the verizon network. please advise.

>>61827710

>a b l o o b l o o b l o o

>>61827726
G6, or HTC 10

>crying about a headphone jack

>>61827787

In all seriousness, what's the benefit of NOT having a headphone jack? Ever so slightly thinner phones? Hardly seems like a fair trade off.

>>61827819
I must market my blueteeth 2 u doe

>>61827819
Xiaomi claims that removing the headphone jack let them stick in a bigger battery.

>>61818466
No reason to get anything brand new instead. I've had my axon 7 since launch and I don't feel the need to upgrade for at least 2 years. It's survived some nasty drops already so I'm sure it's durable enough for that.

thanks /spg/, got my music working on my moto

>>61828164
yeah nothing to do with being able to drop a DAC and make shit cheaper to produce at all

COURAGE

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looking for the cheapest modem for tethering
LTE 2600>1800>700

>>61825490
I'm using Lineage on mine right now and it seems fine.

>>61829044
a plus would be some compatiblilty with:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

Moto G5 Plus or Honor 8? Or something else in that price range?

Any xiaomeme users got miui9 yet? is it worth it?

I have a 128GB Pixel XL and I love the camera, but I need dual sim functionality. What's the current best phone in a similar bracket with a good quality camera? Was looking at the P10 plus but I noticed that the second sim can't do data, only voice.

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Hey /spg/ I'm looking to replace my HTC M7 as it's starting to show its age. The camera is cooked (thanks to that Zoe thing), the battery is stuffed (shuts off at 28% under some circumstances, and doesn't last a day), and the speaker is also on its way out.

So far It's a toss up between the Huawei P10 at $699au and the S8 at $899.

I'd be using it mostly for listening to a lot of music (the expandable memory is a rather big draw), watching videos and browsing. would one of these be a better choice than the other? I've heard that the P10 battery isn't enough to be used all day and that the screen isn't as crisp as the S8.

Or maybe is there a cheaper phone that can do what I want? With the limited accessories available for the the last two phones I bought, I'm a little gun shy about getting something not well known, but I can be convinced.

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>>61829628
Oh and the phone must be completely unlockable. I don't run stock builds on phones.

I've made a discord channel for /spg/, here's the link
https://discord.gg/gannbA

>>61829645
With that use you don't need a flagship, just get a Moto G5 Plus or something