/pcbg/ PC Building General - waifu edition

First for

>tfw no asus vega 56 card

>>61807809
>not buying a reference card so you can liquid cool later on

>>61807773
what graphic card is best for 3440x1440p 100hz?

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>>61807773
What CPU and Graphics card do you recomend for this Samsung CF791 3440x1440p 100hz whit quantum dot?

>>61807973
Why liquid cool? Is fan not good for reference?

>>61807773
what do u think of talos II? should I get one?
https://raptorcs.com/TALOSII/

>>61807773
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6DYD8

Built in 2015, when to upgrade? Running Win 7

Threadly reminder that the AM4 Bristol Ridge CPUs will be released in less than two weeks which will have overclockable quad cores for cheaper than a G4560 as well as better iGPU performance and a hundred times better upgrade path and future proofing.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_bristol_ridge_apus_are_set_to_hit_retail_by_august_18th/1

>>61808229
It's still based on bulldozer though. :/
the real APUs to be excited for are the Raven Ridge APUs coming next year

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Will GPU prices drop anytime soon or should I just buy something shitty like a 1050 in the meantime?

>>61808252
Yes, and? If you can show me any better CPU with overclockable quad cores and some of the best iGPU performance around on a modern platform for 50 bucks then I'm sure a lot of people in here would be interested

>>61808321
Just buy a used 970 or 980 or something

>>61808321
1050? just buy a shitty 980

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When do you think the 1180 Ti will come out?

>>61808428
Not anytime soon. Volta is releasing soon™ but for consumer cards you're gonna have to wait next year.

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Do we have any idea when the VEGA Nano is coming out and how much it'll cost

>>61808589
Volta for video games next year?

>>61808754
Most likely to be around the same time as the 1080 last year. Just wait until people start the new shitpost cycle about the convenient "leaks" that will surface near the announcement. I bet Nvidia "leaks" these things just to create hype.

How much of a performance increase would I see from going 3570k to R7 1700?

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>I got like $4,000 to make a stupid-powerful build
>i9 18 core
>32-64 gb of ram of ddr4
>can hold off on the gpu and use one i already have until miners stop fucking us
>cant. find. a. single. case.

>>61809059
>i9

>>61809120
yes. i9.
For work. Gaming too I guess.

>>61809059
caring about gpu prices with that budget

>>61809137
>
forgot my meme arrow

>>61809137
>>61809142

I know I can just give in but I already have a recent gpu on me that can hold me out on my upgrade path. I don't need everything at once you know and $700+ that -can- be lower sounds better.

Anyways, cases?

>>61809137
Just because you have money doesn't mean you can be stupid.

Rich doesn't have to always mean "I can afford to make mistakes".

>>61809126
Get Epyc you brain dead mong.
>for work
Learn this shit so then you're of use for once in your fucking life.

>>61809155
Lian-Li PC series? Cosmos II?

>>61809155
what size?
rice build or sleek?

>>61809198
>Lian-Li
These look pretty nice

>>61809218
no need for rice/sleek but would be to have peripheral to functionality and great for airflow and air-cooling as this might be seeing some huge uptime during projects

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/pcbg/ help!

I saw a small bug crawling on my screen, so I squished it. Turns out, however, the bug was INSIDE of my screen, and now I can't get it out!

How do I remove a bug from underneath the plastic panel of an ASUS VS248?

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128999

Just picked this up. How would this get along with Windows 7?

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>>61809270
You're FUCKED

>>61809340
I-I don't think I can afford another 150€ screen and I can't live with this bug permanently on it. I think I might just kill myself over this.

>>61809270
>>61809421
Oops, look like you've encountered a bug! Please contact technical support.

>>61809433
you're bugging out my man

>>61809270
RIP anon and his ASUS

>>61809340
Dumb frogposter.

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I'm waiting for my case, keyboard/mouse, and GPU to arrive but I've got all the other parts of this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsNbPs

Should I put the motherboard, CPU, RAM, and power supply together tonight out of boredom?

Will putting the motherboard on it's box and pressing parts into it damage the underside?

Will it be a problem trying to put it all into the case without taking it back apart?

Also, on the motherboard there are 4 RAM slots, I know you're supposed to space the sticks by one empty slot, but there's a black pair of slots and a red pair, does it matter which ones I put them in?

>>61809270
>bug inside screen

If a bug could crawl inside it you can surely take it apart to try and clean it off.

Even if you end up breaking the moniter it's better than wasting money on a new one when you could've fixed it.

>>61809270
thou shall not kill

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Goodbye, anons. It's been a blast. It's alright, I've been dead inside for a long time now. Farewell.

>>61809661
>removing metal bezels
just let him kill himself hell be better off

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Looking for a decent 2-3 TB HDD, any brands to stay away from with these sizes?

Speaking of monitors, something's been bugging me lately. I need a good monitor for watching anime and playing FPS. Just bought a gaming rig with a R7 and RX580 tonight, so would it be worth getting a 4K monitor?

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Should I buy a GTX 1050 Ti SC? Or is there something better for the same money?

>>61809939
Anime is still in 720p and your 580 won't be good enough. Just fall for the ultrawide meme.

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Freesync or 144hz

>>61810248
Both. Would be helpful if you explained why you're asking.

>>61809627
wait until all of your parts come in.

My H100i came with a stripped screwhole (resulting in unnecessary noise) and it's been a few years since I bought it, what's a good replacement? Should I stick with liquid or go air-cooled?

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>>61810260
Trying to choose between
LG 29UM68-P +Vega or BenQ XR350 +Volta

>>61810309
By the time you finish waiting for Volta you should have the cash for a G-sync display. It just depends how long you're willing to wait.

Didn't /pcbg/ have it's own Partpicker page?

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>Tfw building a poorfag build and the RAM is the most expensive component
And yes, I do need 16GB RAM because I'm going to use it for photography, video and music production, I'm just going to upgrade the CPU and GPU later.

Anyways, does it matter if you get one of those PCIe Wifi cards or can you get by with just a USB Wifi dongle?

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how the heck do i compare graphics cards? im trying to play playerunknowns battleground with a AMD Radeon R7 370 and it runs like garb. it recommends an nVidia GeForce GTX 660. how big of a power gap is there between those two cards?

>>61807773
Asmr asian waifu builds PC when?

>>61810707
I've seen the TP-Link TL-WN722N recommended for wifi.

>>61810707
>I'm just going to upgrade the CPU and GPU later.

Someone made fun of me earlier for having more expensive RAM on my build than the CPU. You gotta do what works for your goals. If I wanted to make an anime-watching rig, then I might conceivably spend more money on hard drives than on a CPU, or RAM, or GPU, or whatever.

>>61809059
Cosmos 2?

>>61810763
what is a recommended hard drive? I know HGST is usually suggested.

>>61810763
I have a Thinkpad X230 as my main computer right now so I'm just trying to build something that performs better than this for as cheap as possible so I can upgrade it later.

>>61810718
i think it's just bad on your end overall. it is not very optimized game.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-660-vs-AMD-R7-370/2162vs3571

>>61810861
Seagate 2TB 7200RPM

>>61810931
Seagate is junk

PSU with 1200w or more, what's a good one?
My current one broke and the RMA will literally take 14weeks, i've already waited a month, i'm tired of waiting.

and yes i do need a big one, i am doing alot of custom shit

>>61811049
thinking of getting the "Corsair HX1000i"

>>61808088
blower coolers are generally louder and hotter than ideal. GPU brackets and AIOs can be had relatively cheaply.

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Salvaging an X51-R2 Anon, here.

I'm thinking I'll wait for some DDR3 @ 1600 to go on sale. Digging into sale history they seemingly do still go on sale, so it's worth limping on 4GB to get 16GB for what I'd pay for 8 normally.

Monitor-wise, I have not a damn clue. Have a 27" 60hz 1080p monitor coming through Fed-Ex, but I'm unsure I'll be keeping that given the size and the 60hz. Been doing a lot of reading to figure out what all this new shit means. Can't wait for 2160p, though. That sounds sexy.

Plan to wait for my ideal case. Hoping to find something with good front ventilation so I can exhaust things frontward and use it as a heater, but that's just a dumb idea.

Debating a 550W EVGA gold-rated PSU for $80. Has a $20 MIR to bring it down to $60. Paid $120 for a 620W Corsair PSU in ages past, so that seems good.

Also looking at an EVGA GTX 1050 Ti of one sort or another to replace the GTX 745 in this. Just waiting for sales.

>>61810262
Should I put in a crappy decade old graphics card for a week once the case and keyboard arrive or will that somehow be a pain in the ass when I need to switch it out for the new one?

I'm gonna get a GTX 1050 ti but the last one I bought showed up used without the box despite being advertised as new, so I'm waiting for refund money to order one.

>>61810909
neat website, thanks. im thinking of returning the game just cus of how bad it runs.

>>61811259
The thoughts so far.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7DPpb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nY6GZ8

I posted this yesterday but no response. I want to build a stupid fucking awesome custom loop as a showcase, but I don't know which case to put it in. Don't recommend me that plebe shit either.

>>61811472
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7DPpb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nXmXwV

this is better

>>61811518
I own most of the shit in that first build. I already have the motherboard, CPU, DVD drive, and HDD. I'm reboxing them. But to rebox them from Alienware's slim midget case I need a proper PSU.

The core of things may be replaced in time, but my intent is to get the ship out of drydock as cheaply as possible.

>>61810707
PCIe Wifi cards are much better in my experience

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>>61811562
As cheaply as possible without compromising things, that is. Compromises fuck everything up.

>>61811259
>Debating a 550W EVGA gold-rated PSU for $80.
Hope its not the supernova NEX

>>61811580
"EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply"

what's the highest resolution crt you can get at at least 60hz?

>>61811485
Phanteks genthoo primo

Massive watercooling case. Has space for two 480 mm rads and the bottom one can be as thick as you want

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So, question. The RX 560 is the equivalent to the GTX 1050? But it's totally sold out because of cryptosporidiots?

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>>61812025
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So I got like 5meters if Ethernet cable left and my desktop is like 10cm away. What can I do to make my cables not look like shit? Is there a specific way I can wrap them or tie them??? Pic related

>>61812092
under carpet or behin pc

what is the highest end CPU/GPU that can max out VR games?
i feel like 1080ti is just a litttle overkil

>>61812526
just get a 1080ti dumbass, you can afford it if you're faling for the vr meme

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820236039

On sale, and on the Ryzen QVL

Also on sale

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235011

Is there a way to add more SATA data ports to my computer without getting a new motherboard

>>61812092
just coil the excess neatly in a circle and twist-tie/zip-tie it in place

>>61807773
Are the prices of 1080tis set to drop at all with the release of vega on the 14th? Anyone have any idea?

>>61812804
Nah, they won't. Vega competes with 1080's (64) and 1070 (56), novidya already cut the price of 1080 when 1080ti came out. There won't be any price drops at all.

I have an i7 7700k & 1080 ti

Should I go for 4k monitor or 1440p/144hz monitor?

>>61808229
Since a desktop build is off the cards, its kind of tempting to go for an APU based HTPC project.

I've wanted an excuse to use a Streacom Case for ages.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d26CRG
Second rig for streaming 1080p/60 using a capture card, any suggestions for trimming it drown?

Not really sure what i'll actually need and what's overkill for purely streaming from capture.

>>61807773
hey guys, i remember i got a pirated version of windows 6 months ago or so when i finished my build, but i'm now getting the activate windows popup again. Anyone have a link to where I can get it again?

>>61809059
>18 cores
for what purpose, are you rendering a movie for pixar or some shit?
just get a 7700k, most games can't even use more than four cores anyways

>32-64 gigs of ram
You will never use this much ram for anything, ever
You will probably never even use 16 gigs.
Just get 16 gigs of 3200mhz ram.

Any good options for a Ryzen mITX build yet?

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>>61813087
> Just get an "i7 7700k" he said, you dont need more than 4 cores he said

OY VEY GOYIM

>>61813099
I'm putting together one:

Ryzen 1600x
Gigabyte B350N-WIFI Motherboard
some sort of 3200 dir 4
evo 960 m.2 500gb
Cryrig c7 cooler
maybe a MSI its 1070 or something?

node 202 case
corsair sf600 psu


Thoughts?

>>61813155
that mobo is garbage, get one of the asrock ITX or the biostar one

>>61813218
>ASRock
don't listen to this anon

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bP7KtJ
Is this good for a poorfag?

>>61813236
There's a lot of room for improvement that won't cost TOO much.....what's your budget

>>61813241
Around $600 but that includes a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I was thinking about buying a used 970 ebay if i can find a good price

>>61812862
144hz is superior. 4K will remain as a meme as long as we don't have hardware to run it at high refresh rates.

>>61813284
cheers anon

>>61813218
That is literally the only am4 itx motherboard I can get my hands on.

Its going to be a slow build anyway, I've only got the case and some fans so far, so theres time for me to decide whether I go with ryzen or i7

>>61813270
It's a bit more, but it really is a LOT better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzCNbj

Fast memory is everything with Ryzen, wouldn't ever recommend less than 2666

This is the first time I've actually looked at the pc building guide in OP. You've made what is a glorified lego project into some fucking novel. No one who is new to building PCs is going to read that. Make a simpler version or it's pointless.

>>61813236
>>61813326
if you're going to spend that much then at least go for a 1600 and a better power supply

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n6mbPs

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>>61813370

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Planning to buy a external 2TB for archiving and to put all stuff in so I can reinstall my Windows to a fucking SSD at last.

However my question being, what are the best ones in the market? I tried looking through like 5 different External review lists but they're all so simple and don't have any proper data tests done that I think reviewers have become lazy when it comes to any parts that aren't CPU or GPU this decade.

I have a Trancend 750gb External from few years ago but it's already full of stuff, it's shockproof and all that and was considered back then among the best durable ones, it has 2TB model around nowadays so I was thinking maybe going for that.

>>61813087
A game like PUBG, known for its awful memory leaking sure, can easily use up to 10gb or RAM these days. So 16GB is becoming norm soon, while 32GB would be really nice to have.
I'm still running 8GB and it's fucking suffering.

>>61813417
I think the highest requirement i've ever seen was something like 12 gigs of ram.
Which is fucking unbelievable, but there you go.

I'd say 24 at the most is all you're going to need for a long time, unless you're rendering 4k video in the background while simultaneously gaming on high and streaming.

>>61809059
>i9
Why?
Do you get off to throwing money at kikes?

IT'S OVER
INTEL ARE FINISHED

>>61811589
Rebranded Super Flower Leadex
Really good PSU

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>>61812067
Pure coincidence goy

ASUS VS247NR - I have this monitor, I want to spend around 1000$ for full build of PC (Poland).
Can someone help me pick right components?
It will be mainly for gaming. (shooters, moba, rpg)

How powerful is the ryzen 1600 compared to the 15, 14, and 1300 models?

>>61813816
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Summit_Ridge

Sweet spots are at 1300X and 1600/1600X

How does amd r9 compared to their rx series

If [motherboard manufacturer] releases a BIOS update on a particular day, how long will it take before you can start buying motherboards that come with that update pre-installed?

I find myself in a situation where having a desktop is just not an option. I've been in this situation for a few years and will be in it for a few years longer, so this isn't a case of "just wait a few months and then get a desktop".
I've been making do with a laptop that was pretty decent when I bought it, but struggles to run recent releases.

Are there any companies that let you upgrade the hardware on a laptop? Even if I have to take it back to the retailer for every upgrade, that beats buying a whole new computer every few years.

Failing that, can you recommend a company that will let me customize my laptop's hardware that isn't alienware? I don't need flashing LEDs and little grey heads on my cover, I just need it to work.

Failing both those options, what laptop would you recommend around the €1500 mark? I'd mostly be using it for gaming.

Looking to update my GPU but I am unsure about the compatibility with the mainboard.
It's an AM3 socket MSI G54 870a with an 6core phenom ii and i'd now like to buy a GTX 1050Ti.
Now my issue is that I don't know if new cards are comaptible with such an old mainboard that has Legacy BIOS and not an UEFI one.
Any knowledge on this matter?

>>61814376
newer cards should run, but you won't get the bells and whistles of, say, overclocking utilities

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current computer:
asrock 970 xtreme 4
fx6100 (sorry)
8gb of some garbage dd3 ram
some 126gb ssd
some 1tb hdd
a fucking gtx1060 6gb

I used to have a gtx560ti that was acceptable back when I built this, but I gave it to my younger brother and bought the 1060 as a replacement because I got it 30% off during christmas 2016

obviously this build is garbage right now the processor is horrible the ram is outdated the mainboard is old the ssd is not useful anymore with a size that small

until today I thought I'll have to get an intel socket mainboard and get an i7 for a decent machine
since the ryzen flopped from what I saw
now you are shilling it like crazy again, what changed?

what parts should I get to stop bottlenecking my 1060?

my budget is flexible (400€-700€) if I can get decent value performance I'm willing to spend more, I'm probably looking for the max bang for buck build while I already own the 1060
I want to be able to play witcher 3 at a decent enough resolution and I'm willing to spend

I live in Germany

>>61807773
oh shit niggers
I finally puilled the trigger and bought the parts for my computer, they're on the way now
Pray for me lads, I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the help the last couple of days.

>>61814376
Nvidia officially canclled support for Legacy with the 6xx series.

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which one?

>>61814446
Eizo

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>>61814446
to go with this build?

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>>61814440
Forgot the link AAAAAAAAA
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vq8fTH

>>61814454
never heard of it and i don't think they sell it here in the UK.

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what should i upgrade? should I wait for gpu prices to drop?

>>61813063
www.microsoft.com

>>61814689
Funny.

>>61814689
thanks for the meme desu, but i found out how without your 3 hour late (You)

>>61813063
pay $15 for a licence, it's better

>>61813370
I got it with minimal research and am just now building my first parts list

>>61813800
i assume you mean ~3,8k PLN. you should look at
Ryzen 5 1600
Asrock AB350M Pro4
Patriot Viper 4 DDR4, 2x4GB, 3000MHz
SilentiumPC Gladius M40
GTX 1060 6GB
HDD: Toshiba P300
SSD: GOODRAM Iridium Pro 240GB, ADATA SU900
Corsair / SilentiumPC PSU

>>61815202
>asrock

>>61813370
Just wait until you read the manuals that come with all the parts.

>>61815202
>ASRock

>>61813396
They're all the same desu, just get whatever Seagate or WD is cheaper. If you have any old hdd's lying around, you could buy an enclosure and make your own.

>>61814727
How?

>>61815202
>ASrock

>>61814415
>Since ryzen flopped
>Intel socket/i7
Come on dude, I know that shilling is at it's max point, but the reviews are out and Ryzen has been tested and proven to be worth the hype.

Get the R5 1600 with a decent B350 MoBo and OC it to 4.0 on a decent cooler. If you want more power get the R7 1700.

The 7700K is good for higher framerates at 1080p. But for everyrhing else (including future games) you're better off with ryzen.

Check DigitalFoundry's latests videos on the topic.

>>61814163
There are too many variables to say. Depends on the brand, the vendor, the stock and the nature of the update.

>>61813845
The 580 is ~20-25% more powerful than the 390X and it's much more efficient.

>>61815202
Ignore the shills, the asrock pro4 is good. Just tweak around with the ram and it's an excellent MoBo for the price.

>>61815240
>>61815288
>>61815310
>t. msi owners
enjoy your 30s boot times

>>61815487
excuse me, mine are 20

What's the best build for a mini computer? Low TDP/watt usage is highly preferred with a budget of >$300

>>61815510
a pi

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ASROCK TAICHI X370 ON SALE @ NEWEGG

>>61815622
>asrock

Is the gtx 1170 coming out next month?

>>61807773
for a 2k resolution is it acceptable to pick a 25 inch monitor? I feel like 27 inches would be too big for me.

>>61815637

The tacihi is a really good x370 board. Not the best, but damn good.

>>61815787
#lewd

Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TvpXwV
Want to spend something around 1000$, but i can go higher if it's necessary.

>>61815811
What's considered the best?

>>61815900
>A320

>>61815900
Upgrade mobo to B350 and switch 1600X for non-X and overclock manually. Drop the network card.

stop shitposting. there's literally nothing wrong with asrock.

>>61815900
switch to r5 1600
drop the cooler
switch mobo to b350
>rx 580 for 460$
you can get gtx 1080 for 500$

>>61814403
I dunno, I read plenty of stuff that people say their GPUs don't work on the old mainboards and that some GPUs got BIOS switches so that they can run on any mainboard.

>>61814442
Source for this?

>>61814376
Anyone got further info on this please?

>>61815901

Crosshair hero.

>lel msi titanium

>>61815886
jej

I want to build a computer for gaming and for machine learning, here is what I picked out, it's it okay?

Motherboard : Z270 SLI plus

RAM : Corsair Vengeance 16gb 2400MHz

Storage : hard drive, Samsung 250 evo

CPU : i7 7700k

Cooler : cooler master hyper 212 evo

GPU : 1080ti.

I'll be building the computer over two months, the graphics card being bought in the second month, and everything else during the first month. I'll use my old 970 until I get the 1080 ti

>>61816334
pick faster ram
shit cooler, cryorig h7 or be quiet! pure rock cost the same and perform better

>I'll be building the computer over two months
new intel cpus come out in 2 weeks, volta supposedly to be released before october. don't buy 7700k now.

>>61816334
get a 612 V2 instead of the 212

>Air 240 looks great
>Can't fit NH-D15 inside
>buy our AIO goyim :^)
>1080 Ti is too big in length and width

What the hell man.

>>61816713
>not buying a Full Tower

>>61816451
Can I ask why the faster RAM? I don't know much about how RAM speed affects a system

ok i am getting a 27inch 1440p screen, but i dont want to spedn too much on my build because i dont game as much (i want the bigger screen for movies and work.)

its not retarded to play games at 1080p windowed at 60fps right?
sounds like a good compromise to me

>>61817005
just reduce the resolution of the game to 1080p, the monitor will scale it up without any problems

Is $30 for a Seagate 1TB HDD a good deal? It's so cheap that I worry there may be a catch.

>>61816518
Do you think I could hold off with the 212 for one month? I may buy a watercooler with the 1080ti

>>61817458
what HDD exactly? New? If it's one of the current barracuda or NAS drives, sure, go for it

>>61817458
if it's new, I don't see why not
but never buy a refurbished hard drive

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What components are most likely to be broken when you turn on the PC it keeps turning off and turning on again itself when you are trying to start the PC from the first time? The coolers work, and the USB ports, CD reader, etc... But the computer keep turning off itself and the PC never starts, it's an infinite loop.

What's more important with NVidia's naming scheme, the generation or model number? Does a 780 outperform a 1050 because of it's higher model number?

>>61816713
If i didn't have those flaws it would perfect. I gave up on matx and bought a 400c instead.

>>61817647

Ram and psu.

>>61817647
my guess would be something overheating, but the PSU could be toast as well

>>61817668
doesn't say to much, both is important, look up benchmarks. A 780 outperforms a 1050

>>61817647
also to what point do you make it before it restarts? Getting through POST? Entering BIOS/UEFI? OS Booting?

>>61817533
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=274340

>>61817767
32MB cache instead of 64 like with most models of that capacity, but other than that there's absolutely nothing bad to say about this. I'd go for it if i had the need for a new harddrive

>>61817725
It didn't show anything in the screen, so I suppose the BIOS is not operative. Have the video with sound.

https://dropfile.to/8beabSg

>>61817647
Motherboard, RAM, PSU, CPU. In that order.

>>61817668
If you want a rough estimation then I'd say a generation is equal to a tier. So 980 is rougly equivalent to 1070 and so on. But it varies greatly due to arcitectual changes, how game engines utilize them and that Nvidia dropping driver support for older cards.

>>61817668
If you're one generation back, +10 is in the same ballpark (960 vs 1050, for example)
But more than a couple hundreds back, and you're really falling behind

>>61817806
if you don't get a picture you either don't make it through POST or your GPU is dead. Or you connected your screen wrong, but that wouldn't explain the restarting.

I assume your mainboard doesn't have BIOS speaker like most nowadays? And no status LED? I'd go to the hardwarestore and get a 99cent bios speaker then, really helps with troubleshooting sometimes. Your only other option is to test part for part in a different system.

What CPU is that? Got an IGP? If yes, remove the external GPU and connect the monitor to the mainboard. Also try both DIMMs, one module at a time, in different DIMM slots to make sure no DIMM or DIMM slot is broken. Troubleshooting something like that is just trial&error. Hope you get lucky and find the component at fault quickly

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WFYMWX
The items are selected because they are available from a local shop.

This is a build for my dad. He mostly does work stuff however and some video/image editing.

Is the ram/mobo compatible?

Why wouldn't the RAM and Mobo be compatible?

>>61817866
>>61817888

>>61817888
I am just worried about ryzen and ram frequencies.

>>61817866
make sure that the RAM is in the mainboards QVL. Should be though, but i'm not sure if i remember correctly.

You could easily reduce the PSU to one with 100 or even 200W less. Apart from that it looks totally fine. But completly overpowered for office work. Especially the GPU is a complete waste if he doesn't need it for anything

>>61817866
by the way, for an office PC and some light video/image editing you may even get away with a 100 bucks A12 9800. Or a pentium with IGP if you want, but the platform of that sucks.

>>61817938
Which gpu would you suggest for video/image editing?

>>61817965
the cheapest one you can get that outputs at the refresh rate and resolution of the monitor you're using while being acceptably silent. You won't want to use GPU acceleration anyways as that reduces quality for videos

>>61817938
ah snap. I didn't find it in this list:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK-ARCTIC.html#support-mem-2

>>61818022
will most likely work anyways. Don't know if you want to take the risk of having to hassle around and get it to run properly yourself

>>61817998
Cool. I will check what's available.

>>61817938
Should I even bother with 3000+ mhz ram?

Is it true that Ryzens benefit from high-speed RAM? This is just for gaming, but I figured a higher thread count would be better than a 7700k. 1500$ budget, and I'm putting the two HDD's in RAID 0.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpR2sJ

>>61818146
gives a bit of a performance boost, not absolutely necessary. Just take the highest you can find for a reasonable price in your area

I'm about to drive to Best Buy and buy something premade, I don't know much about tech but I've held off on buying anything but consoles for the past five years and I'm ready to make a switch to the Master Race. I here the razors a mighty purdy beast for 4 grand but I'm tempted to buy a PC, My question is how many years would buying a decked out system last in the 4,000 range vs 2,000? Should I invest in 4K? I only play Total War games seriously.

>>61817864
I tried turning it on without GPU and connecting the VGA cable directly to the motherboard (the g4600 CPU have integrated graphics) and it was the same result, but I'm gonna try using just one ram stick now and connecting it to different slots. Also is that orange led in the motherboard the thing you are talking about?

And this is the PC build, it's a really popular build, so it shouldn't have any compatibility problem.

>>61818206
Thanks for the info.

>>61818189
>Is it true that Ryzens benefit from high-speed RAM?
yes
>960 meme
you can get 500gb ssd for almost the same price.
>raid 0
lol
also 7700k outperforms r5 1600 in gayming.

>>61818207
>premade
>best buy
you'll get scammed no mater what you choose.

>>61817864
>>61818189
forgot link, sorry https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/tXNnTW/entry-level-gaming-build

>>61818189
>Is it true that Ryzens benefit from high-speed RAM?
yes, it likes 3000 or 3200 if you can find it on the QVL. Right now the 7700K is the better choice for high FPS gaming but the 1700 will most likely be more future proof. Most modern engines get better and better at multithreading after all.

>two HDD's in RAID 0.
goodbye data security

>>61818207
build one yourself, it's easier than fucking lego technic.

If you want to do the braindead think and buy a premade scam PC at least post specs of them, you cant give a universal answer to that. Generally you can't future proof hardware, it ages to much. Buy something that satisfies your needs for the close, forseeable future, upgrade when it doesn't anymore. Also past ~1500 bucks you're way up in the area of diminishing returns anyways, spending more doesn't improve much at that point

>>61818230
>>61818244
What's wrong with RAID 0 though? How does it affect my security? Thanks.

>>61818222
no problem, but you should read reviews yourself and don't trust strangers from a bhutanese throat singing symposium, they might tell you bullshit after all. Information is readily available.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/07/14/memory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings

>>61818221
it shouldn't be a compatibility problem. Can't tell you anything about the LED if i don't know the mainboards name. Make sure to test different slots with both DIMMs.

You got the MSI B250M? It says it changes the board depending on price point.

>>61818273
it slices your data into many small pieces and stores them on both drives. If one dies or gets corrupted you loose everything, and even if it may be recoverable in some cases it's a fucking nightmare. With how cheap mass storage and even SSDs got it is absolutely not worth it anymore.

recently got a usb kvm switch and my mouse starts to dc randomly every 2 mins or so

there is no dc and reconnect sound when the mouse dc / rc

is this a hardware issue or a softwaer issue? im thinking about updating to win10 but dont want to if possible, as for hardware issue, im pretty sure my power supply supplies more than the pc needs so the mobo is the little shit i need to look at, thoughts?

>>61818323
Oh. Okay, I guess I just wont put them in RAID 0. It's sometimes more convenient to have than 1, and 1 2tb is the same price as 2 1tbs. Also, I changed the 1600 to a 1700.

>>61818230
Cable management isn't my forte, and the cheapest 500gb SSD is a 140$ cheap SK hynix SSD.

Is the RAM situation still completely fucked on Ryzen or can I buy pretty much anything and have it work ok?

>>61818323
>You got the MSI B250M?
Yeah, and it has a orange led, maybe it means it's wrong?

>>61818189
Ryzen's architecture is built around 4-core complexes, connected by something called "Infinity Fabric" which lets them communicate between each other
The Infinity Fabric runs at the same frequency as your RAM, so faster RAM is crucial with a Ryzen system
I would dream of making a Ryzen system with anything less than 2667, and if you're going for anything at or above the 1600(X) chip, I would get some 3200 off the QVL

Thinking about build old workstation PC and apparently socket G34 is extremely cheap here. Server K10 (opteron 61xx) or server bulldozer (opteron 62xx and 63xx), what's your opinion?

>>61818323
I just checked the manual and the orange led means that the motherboard is working. So maybe the thing that is broken is the PSU or the Ram. Also when the delivery man brought me the PSU package it fell down, maybe the PSU is broken because of that.

>>61818426
Thank you for the information!

>>61815202
Thank you very much good Sir.

>>61818426
>>61818470

There is a slight correction need to be made here- for ryzen chips Infinity Fabric runs at HALF ram speed - its not 1:1.

>>61818470
And for the lower core count Ryzen chips, there's still 2 4 core CCXs. But cores are deactivated symetrically as needed. So a 1600 or 1600X has 1 core per CCX disables, while a Ryzen 3 or 1400/1500X has 2 cores per CCX disabled

What can I build for 750 euro? Poland.

Already have monitors and HDD/SSD covered.

>>61818445
check if it's a status led, and if it means that it made it through POST. But yeah, trial and error is your only shot now

>>61818498
well yeah, but RAM also runs at half its specified speed,

>>61807773
>evga 1070 is $439.99

Alright /pcbg/ I need to get two identical desktops for under €1600 in Portugal.

I already have one monitor, and technically I do have a one old desktop but it's been through a lot of abuse so I'd like to avoid using it. All the components on it are at least 7 years old now, which I think probably means the motherboard won't be compatible with modern CPUs but I could be wrong.

I also have a single 750W PSU that I could use, but would also rather not because as far as I can tell it just drains a constant 750W regardless of what I'm doing and that shit's expensive.

At the very least I need to be able to run Witcher 3 and star citizen at decent settings on these.
I have a couple of hard drives that will work for slow storage and a single 240GB SSD that could be used as a main drive for one of the computers if that eases up the constraints any, but again I'd like to get a new SSD because 240GB is a pain to manage with big games.

I might have some extra dosh for upgrades at the end of the year, which I will probably use for second monitors but will definitely have some left over for one or two components on each computer, say a larger SSD or more RAM.

On a side note I also need a cheap desk but I'm not expecting you to figure that one out for me.

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Bros I built my first pc and it does turn on but doesn't display video. The mouse and keyboard turn on and the pc doesn't beep. I'm using my TV as monitor. Can you help me?

>>61818567

Yeah but how many fools have you seen posting speccy screenshots here complaining that their ram is running at the wrong speed and something must be wrong?

>>61818627
try connecting the monitor directly to the motherboard ports. If that doesn't work, try buying a DVI-D to VGA adapter (you connect the DVI-D end to the GPU and the VGA end to the monitor).

>>61818673
too many. But /g/ is dead anyways so who cares

>>61818627
what hardware? How is it connected to the TV? Connected to dedicated GPU or IGP on the PC? Sure you got the right channel on the TV? Sure your board got a BIOS speaker?

there is any kind of pcpartpicker but with links from ebay?

>>61818721
I don't think so because Ebay use a bid system and parts would be changing constantly along the prices.But you can use PC partpicker prices as references to have an idea about which price would be a good deal in ebay.

So i made this budged build, but i still need a case. Any good suggestions?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDdKtJ

>>61818889
Corsair Carbide Series 100R it's top tier but it's pretty cheap because it has no gamer bullshit. Also the case it's pretty big, you can fit a fucking midget inside it.

>>61818627
TVs are weird and don't always work for initial bootups
use a monitor
also, check motherboard's diagnostics display if yours has one and see what the code displayed means (if it loops or hangs at some point)

what price should we expect vega 56 to be in europe at release? i bought a 1070 but i'm thinking about returning it. i don't trust the tweaktown benchmarks though

>>61819013
around 900 yuro due to miners

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any horizontal case recommendation?

>>61818933
Wow you're right, thanks a lot!
Maybe i can fit the external storage inside, too

>>61819070
Take any case and turn it on its side.

>>61819122
This

>>61819122
ok but where would I get rubber feet?

>>61819337
Your nearest hardware store probably

>>61819013
Diddly this.

Do stores sell new gpu at msrp

>>61818719
The important ones https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HzQHN VGA(pc) to HDMI(TV). I'm using the IGP. Yes and yes x)

>>61818705
I'm using the mobo VGA port. I haven't installed the GPU yet.

>>61819012
I hope you're right and the problem is the tv. The light just turns on at the beginning and that's it. I think it is working correctly.

Thank you bros

>>61819703
>sure it's connected correctly
>bios speaker installed
>no sound
so you don't even get to initialize POST, otherwise you'd get feedback via the speaker.

>Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
If anything the prices are going up, we are entering the age of having to preorder a GPU just to ensure a somewhat reasonable price

>>61819824
nah, ethereum will crash at some point, or ASIC miners get out. At that point GPU prices become normal again until the next currency hype

>>61819070
http://www.coolermaster.com/Case/mid-tower/haf-xb/
It's surprisingly spacious, also a huge plus is you completely forego GPU bend or sag or whatever it's called

Thinking about buying a 1070 because it'll be another month before the vega 56 is here.

>>61819865
I hope you are right

>>61819927
same happened with btc, it won't be different here i guess

>>61819971
Let's hope man, this crap has delayed my build for months.

I just want a partner vega 56 card

How's my build, waiting for VEGA. I'm not sure if I want to also buy a 1440p 144hz monitor or a 1080p 144hz monitor. I'd like to play and stream Destiny 2. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hFzqZ8

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This do for 1080p@60?

>>61818625
Any pointers at all would be appreciated, been out of the harware loop for a long time.

>>61820378
i'd pick msi/asus mobo instead
case too expensive for your budget IMO
get a better PSU, corsair cx450m minimum
get 3000mhz ram from mobo VL
you won't be able to get rx 570 for a long time. either pay extra for gtx 1060 6gb or downgrade to 1050ti

>>61818625
https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-837302
If prices in portugal are less fucked and you can reuse some stuff you might get something like that together. You can cheap out on the tower, the board if necessary, you could go down to 2x4GB if it needs to be. But i wouldn't want to change the processor or platform.

To bad GPU prices are still fucked, that card was 50€P cheaper a few months ago

>>61818625
as for the desk, if it doesn't need to be super presentable and you got a grampa or other family member with some decent woodworking tools, consider building one yourself. It's a valuable lesson and you won't get a more sturdy desk specific to your requirements for three times as much money

>>61820526
>you won't be able to get rx 570 for a long time
Just rob someone who does the North Korean cryptodigging.

>>61820594
Would a previous generation high-end GPU be comparable to the 1060 at a better price?
Thanks for the starting point, I'll do some research and see if that fits my budget here.
I don't really need the HDDs so that's some extra dosh for better SSDs I guess.

>>61820625
This is not an option. Not due to lack of tools, but due to a severe lack of hand-eye coordination for anything that doesn't involve a keyboard.

>>61820657
someone should firebomb those fucking miningfarms in iceland.

>>61820717
not really. You might go for a low end cheap card now and upgrade to something better in the next generation.

It's really not that hard, you just need to start somewhere. Measure twice, cut once and all that. Really not hard

>>61820717
980 is about the same with 1060 and Ti version with 1070. Should be able to find one used at a reasonable price.

>>61819811
It just gives a long beep when I disconnect the RAM but when I put it in one of the two slots doesn't beep anymore. What do you think?

>>61816334
Get a Ryzen 1700

>>61820953
dunno, it should beep once short if it's OK.

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Not really building, but cleaning.
What do you guys use to remove dust from your PC without damaging circuits?

>>61821179
my air compressor

>>61821179
Canned air.

>>61821232
>paying for something that's free

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/868nRG

Currently have an ASUS 144Hz monitor. Are all parts ok? or should I throw more money at some specifics. And will I need a CPU fan, Im sure the stock one that comes with should be fine.

Used for pubg, csgo and new releases in general

so, from what I understand, all HDDs are almost the same thing
is there anything wrong with just getting a 1TB WD Blue ?

>>61821289
usually if you stick to brands that you see frequently you're okay

>>61821274
looks fine. Also 340 dollarydoos for an R5 1600 and that much for a 1060? Jesus christ you guys are fucked, almost worth it to start smuggling hardware instead of drugs

>>61821289
>is there anything wrong with just getting a 1TB WD Blue ?
no

>>61821232
Doesn't that shit have accelerants in it?

>tfw build dual core CPU with z270 board assuming you will upgrade to 6 core coffee lake next year and Intel Jews you hard

Seriously Intel? New chipset just for the hell of it? Have you no shame?

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Are 35mm lenght screws enought to do pic related?

>>61821566
what's a shame

Been working on my build, this is the first one: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8hYD8

I changed it, it's more expensive but still within my budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPKYD8

I'm not so sure about a good case, I really don't care as long as it's good enough. Also the PSU is 850w but not sure if I need that much..?

is it really bad to have only 1 stick of RAM?

my motherboard only has 2 slots, so I'm thinking of getting 1 8gb and another when I can afford it.

I bought 2 1tb hard drives does anybody have a detailed step-by-step guide to setting up raid 0?

>>61821600

no

>>61821763
What should I get then?

>>61821566
Isn't covfefe their third socket this year?

>>61821650
it's half the bandwidth compared to dual channel. If you plan to upgrade later it's not to bad.

>>61821714
depends on your raid controller. Also why on earth would you want raid 0? It's absolutely not worth it with current speeds and hdd prices.

>>61821649
it's fine if you want to spend that much. A 500W PSU would be enough for that though.

>>61821787
look up how tick your radiator in question and your fans are. It varies

Are noctua redux fan series good?

>>61821859
top fans with almost no additional stuff except fan and cable in the box

>>61821812
>it's half the bandwidth compared to dual channel. If you plan to upgrade later it's not to bad.
thanks

>>61821920
Sounds perfect innit

>>61821940
yes, you pay less and no one really needs those stickers and brochures and whatnot either. I don't know if it has the screwless mounting gummi nipples, but i have enough of those too so i wouldn't mind if it doesnt have them

Is it normal for an R5 1600 (or any in the lineup) to fluctuate in freqs even under the most microscopic of load?

Surely whatever Windows is reporting as 3% doesn't require it reaching the max freq every single time.

>>61822158
where are you measuring frequencies?

>>61821649
yeah, the PSU is a bit overkill(mostly on the price). be sure to OC that 1700 to infinity with that nice AIO.

So, do you have a nice Monitor? If not I'd save some bucks from the build to drop on the monitor, or have a double setup. you can't have that 1080ti touching anything less than 1440p

>>61822158
wouldn't worry about it. Readout tools may be inaccurate, and power settings in the BIOS/UEFI also affect it

>>61822379
>where are you measuring frequencies?
good old task manager

>>61822438
>task manager
>measuring frequencies
wot, you mean measuring the CPU thread usage, right?

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>Canadian
>$1800CAD to $2000CAD budget
>For vidya
I have no idea where to start. I've been a peasant and generations behind for years so I want to build a nice one. 1080/1080Ti

If you have an AIO CPU cooler is it bad to leave your computer running overnight or will it not significantly affect the lifespan due to it barely needing to run?

kind of a newb, need a r8 and some advice if possible

>parts list
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QzjFD8
>budget
1200 CAD
>games/software
I'm a music producer so I need enough power to run Ableton and some other DAWs smoothly.
I play mainly old or non-intensive games like skyrim, rocket league, fistful of frags, and I wanna be able to play these maxed. I also want the extra beef for more juicy titles like Battlefield at lower settings.
Monitor is included in the parts list.
>build improvements
lower price, better compatibility if possible

pls respond

>>61822876
Any reason for the xeon cpu anon? Otherwise just get a normal intel/amd cpu.

>>61822876
>3 year old haswell CPU
get an R5 1600 instead. Rest is OK

>>61823119
>Any reason for the xeon cpu anon?
it was the price/performance tip when LGA1150 was new, basically the i7 4770 without IGP. But that's a few years ago now. No idea why he picked it

>>61822876
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the choice for an old motherboard and Xeon. Does the motherboard have good sound or something?

>>61823119
>>61823136
>>61823154
>>61823160
I picked the Xeon because I've heard it's better for more CPU intensive applications like DAWs, and it's performance/price point. Gaming is secondary to music production in this build.
But I'm still a newb at this so I need someone more knowledgeable than me to tell me if it's worth it. I don't care about the age of a component as long as they're efficient and compatible.

What should my plan be for vega? should i make accounts on all the major online retailers and refresh every 10 seconds?

>>61823299
>I picked the Xeon because I've heard it's better for more CPU intensive applications like DAWs
That's bullshit. Xeon is simply intels workstation line, but its based on the same chip the other haswel consumer chips like the i7 4770 or 4790K were based on. Its got the same performance. Some workstation related features are enabled, like support for ECC RAM.

Get a CPU of the current generation. For applications like yours in this pricerange the R5 1600 is the best bet. Also supports ECC RAM should you need that

>>61823343
find out where the miners life and steal them in the night. They don't deserve it anyways

>>61823299
I bet you music shitty edm music

Anyone know of a good bluetooth receiver? Ideally one that can be installed directly on the computer so it doesn't take up any easily used slots a la USB. It will mostly be used for cordless video game controllers.

>>61823352
fair enough, thanks for the input. i'll change it up

>>61823374
watch where you're pointing that projector mate

>>61822876
Might want to invest in a soundcard aswell if music production is important.

>>61823352
forgot to ask, if I go for the R5 1600 would it be a good idea to use an AMD GPU as well? or does it not matter?
>>61823443
I'm planning on getting an external sound card

>>61823395
Nice projection there

>>61823477
?

Can someone recommend me a good color neutral B350 ATX board? On top of that, I would like to know of a set of 3000/3200mhz 2x8GB ram that is known to be compatible.

>>61823596
>I would like to know of a set of 3000/3200mhz 2x8GB ram that is known to be compatible.
There's no single answer, you check the manufacturer's QVL list for the mobo. Yourself.

>>61823474
>forgot to ask, if I go for the R5 1600 would it be a good idea to use an AMD GPU as well? or does it not matter?
No doesn't matter.
AMD gpu's are ridiculously overpriced anyway with the cryptomining fad.

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Just cleaned old thermal paste off/put new one on from my pc, which worked flawlessly but not on my dell xps14 ultrabook.
Turned it on and it went straight up 60 degree celsius also gpu was at 55 right after booting up
This is my 2nd attempt on the xps, first i put too much then i cleaned off with pure alcohol and did as i been told to...any advice maybe ?

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My 1080 Ti is being choked. It's sitting in a Define S with 3x Noctua A14 in front and one in the back at 800-900 RPM

It's not hard to understand why though, the card practically divides my case into two compartments. But what the hell can I do about this?

Should i wait for bega 56 or just buy 1070 for $416

>>61823474
>or does it not matter?
doesn't matter at all

>>61823649
New case?

>>61823620
Or someone else who has already navigated the many complicated QVL lists of various manufacturers could simply recommend to me what they have purchased and found out. It's not too hard to share information you fucking moron. Thanks for providing no input.

>>61823386
My brother uses a GIGABYTE Model GC-WB867D-I and we have had really good luck with it. His doesn't seem to have any latency issues or anything like that and he can do some fancy file transfers with his phone. It also doubles as his Wifi adapter which is neat because he can bring it over to my house for LAN activities and I don't have to bring out another ethernet cable.

>>61823717
I'd go with the 1070. Vega appears to use a lot of power and give off a lot of heat, not to mention potential issues with being an early adopter.

Anecdotal but worth mentioning: I have a 1070 in one build and a RX 480 in another, and there have been many hiccups in the build with the AMD gpu. I'm not comparing performance here, quality of life things that are independent from performance.

>>61823797
Fine.

I got an "MSI B350 Gaming Plus" and "CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model CMK8GX4M2B3000C15".

Was only able to run at 3000MHz after updating to the latest BIOS. Hope this helps!

>>61823797
Thanks a lot, I'll give it a look.

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I finally have all the parts for my PC except the video card, but I do have pic related from an old PC, should I use it for now or just wait until the later half of this month for a GTX 1050 ti?

Link related is by build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsNbPs

The motherboard seems to say something about "integrated video based in CPU", what does that mean?
Can I use the PC without putting a video card in?
Has technology improved enough that some shit built into the motherboard will do better than that ten year old GPU?

>>61823774
New case and new card

>>61823823
I was going to wait for the partner cards and not the founders for the vega 56 but is it true that nvidia gimps their cards and old cards are left unsupported after 2 years?

>>61823831
Thank you for the suggestion. The difficulty for me is compounded by the fact that some of the QVLs haven't been updated since ~2 weeks after Ryzen's launch which makes me question things even more.

I got a question, if I wanted to build a rig to use with AutoCAD and other drafting software but also wanted to play some good games what would be the best graphics card and CPU, I understand that most of the drafting programs use single thread and that most would be better off with higher gHz cores rather than more cores overall, but it also seems like if you're gonna go good with say drafting the game side takes a bit and vice versa, so what would your guys recommend

What's wrong with this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/npKBD3

>>61824036
Intel and overkill PSU.

>>61817647
your gpu might also be a cause honestly. I had this problem. if you dont have spare parts lying around to experiment, you may just pull out your gpu for onboard-graphics. it's worth a try.

>>61823845
some CPUs have an integrated GPU, IGP. If you have a CPU without IGP (for AM4 only the A12 APUs currently have one, raven ridge will come next year), you don't need a dedicated GPU. The R3/R5/R7 chips don't have one, so you need a dedicated GPU.

>Has technology improved enough that some shit built into the motherboard will do better than that ten year old GPU?
Well, into the CPU, yes. Intels and especially AMDs IGPs are on the level of low end GPUs

>>61822379
I have a 4k IPS screen that I use for work and plan to use it for this machine too, but wish I had a 1440p 144hz for games. I think I'll just wait until I see a good deal on a 4k 144hz screen.

Is it better to get >G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3866 for $223
or >CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 for $299

>>61824205
It depends if you're making things or gaming and if you're using Intel or Ryzen

Tits ati or ass nvidia?

>>61824424
Did you misspell shits ATI?

>>61824739
Few people share your scat fetish anon

>>61824758
Then why are so many waiting for Raja to poo on their faces with Vega?

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With the recent AGESA updates and their impact on gpu passthrough, I'm finally interested in getting on the platform. I'd appreciate any measure of help.

I'm stuck between the 1600x and the 1700. Either way I'm probably going to be dedicating 4c/8t to my slave vm leaving only 2c for the host. I shouldn't run into any problems with cutting a 1600x 2c:4c for host:slave right? Would the 1700 be better performance wise for the host? I see that the single core scores for the 1600x are better than the 1700 by ~20% on average.

Another question is about RAM, I am aware of ryzens tendancy to prefer samsung b and check QVL for the board, but is it true that 3.2ghz ram will not perform in a 4x8gb config? If I am required to use 2x8 for that speed can I split the ram unevenly between host and client? 6gb:10gb for host:slave?

If I open a VM I expect to use it thoroughly or just close the thing and I know linux isn't nearly as performance hungry as windows so, assuming both ram and cores can be split unevenly would it be fine running a host with 2cores and 6gb ram AND a slave with 4cores and 10gb ram?

>MSI bios update
>- Improved post time.
>Oh shit is this it
>Went from 18 seconds to 17 seconds