Not owning a MacBook Pro in 2017. Why? Seriously. They're great

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One time I was on an airplane and saw a guy in the aisle across from me using one of these.
It made me so god damn angry but there was nothing I could do about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfOe5mFbAE
better

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>>61800908
Fucking shills these days. At least do something creative with it man.

>>61800925
The only bad thing is the keyboard can be sticky sometimes.

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No need for one, famalam.

>>61800908
> OS is excellent
lol nice one

>>61800995
>a thinkpad with a shattered screen, and a thinkpad with the screen nearly twisted straight off
Wow, I thought thinkpads were supposed to be well built.

>>61801080
they are. but /g/ worships 11 year old thinkpads

>>61800908
they make me feel bad for being poor.

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>>61801080
kek

Because the hardware is shit, anon, and I prefer GNU/Linux anyways.

>inb4 muh nvme
Hardly necessary, any SATA SSD should be good enough for the majority of laptop tasks and doesn't cost an exorbitant amount of money. What I care for, as a developer, is a fast, multicore (as many as possible) processor, and expandable memory (or at least 16-32GB default). I also don't give a flying fuck about customer support as I'd rather be able to service it myself.

>>61801080
kek

>>61801029
oh yeah, and two thunderbolt ports. Built for the future :)

> claims secure because "muh UNIX"
> forced to use proprietary software riddled with security holes

>>61800908
>2017 macbook "pro"
>dual core
>shit gpu
>overall slower than the 2016/15 model
>frequent crashes of the touchbar
>esc key on the touch bar
>1600$

no thanks

>>61801153

>windows shell is fucking garbage

>>61801175

>have the 2016 model (good battery life)
>don't have touch bar
>$1,100

>>61800929
>that hinge
>wangblows
lmao

>>61801109
the only 2 ports on that darn thing , its hillarius , this is supposed to be a PRO device but its a joke as you need 27 adapters for anything
also its a fucking dual core cpu

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>>61800908

>>61800908
This is why:
- shitty keyboard
- no ports
- low-tier specs
- latest release of Mac OS is awfully buggy

Give me a MBP2015 before this shit any day.

>>61801207

I own a gaming pc too. not a macfag. But also not a poorfag ;)

>>61801236
>gaymen pc
>mac
underage b&

>>61801198
that one is a justifiable purchase , i just fucking hate the 2017 """"PRO"""""
still would not get one as 1100$ would get a very very solid laptop , nowadays even w/ a gtx 1060 in it , way way better for actual "pro" usage

>>61801222
Ill give that the keyboard is kinda weird. The keys are very hard to press down compared to previous models.

>>61801200
Literally better than the mac you posted.

>>61800908
I just got my thinkpad T420 today. It feels good to know that my laptop won't die in four years due to overheating and/or water damage.

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>>61801236
Disgusting

>>61800908
i also don't own one because it feels like it's more expensive that holding a human life in your arms.

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>>61800908
I'll keep my tower with 4 monitors.
fucking normies and their laptops

>>61800908
It's fine, but I have no use for a laptop.

Especially not one that costs $2000.
ESPECIALLY not since they ruined the once great 15 inch model by replacing physical keys with a fucking touch bar.
ESPECIALLY NOT when this change in the wrong direction made every single model ~$400 more expensive.

Back when I couldn't afford a macbook, they were amazing and I always wanted one.
Now that I could afford one, post-jobs-apple ruined the bloody things like they ruined all macs:

The Mac Mini is now a dual core at max and no longer upgradable.
The Mac Pro used to be one of the most beautiful, yet useful machines on the planet, now it's a literal trash can and has been abandoned since 2013.
The iMac is still way too expensive for what it is, although that 5k screen is amazing.
The Macbook Air is a pleb machine. "MUH THIN"


And the things they did to OS X / MacOS... good fucking god.

I was just too late.

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>>61801293
>winpajeets will defend this

I own one with touch bar.

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>>61800908
Superior browsing experience

>>61801176
At least you have the option in Windows to use an alternate shell (or maybe not anymore, haven't tried in Windows 10). Why the fuck would I want to use Unix when I'm not even allowed to install a tiling window manager (and don't bring up Amethyst or other shit hacks that are forced to rely on the Accessibility API). Finder is garbage.

>>61801554
give it back piotr

>>61801269
((Pro))

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>>61801578
>he doesn't know
lmao

>>61801503
omg it wiggles a little?

RUINED

>>61801611
> shit hacks that are forced to rely on the Accessibility API
Learn to read, Macfag.

>>61801611
How did you do this? Work has me using a macbook and I miss my tiling wm.

>>61801662
It's not worth it, anon, I had a similar situation where I was forced to use a Mac, none of the tiling WMs could even come CLOSE to i3wm.

>>61801662
https://github.com/koekeishiya/chunkwm
needs some time configuring but it works flawlessly
careful, it's using a """""shitty""""" hack as per >>61801655, so you shouldn't bother even though it's working perfectly

>>61801662
https://github.com/koekeishiya/chunkwm

It's not a tiling WM, it's a bunch of hacks on top of the Accessibility API that resize and move windows to provide a neutered set of functionality that resembles a tiling WM. This thing is a joke compared to i3, awesomewm, etc. I use a 2017 MacBook Pro for work and tried this along with every other "tiling window manager" for macOS. Enjoy your ~1s redraw times, having to restart the application because it randomly stops working and piss poor configurability.

macOS is garbage.

>>61800995
>2017
>using computers from the previous decade
>even comparing them to a MacBook Pro

Wow! :)

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>>61801640
>spend $3000 on a laptop
>it has shit build quality
really makes you think

>>61801733
one would think that if you're autistic enough to use a tiling WM you're smart enough to configure it, too

>>61800908
ever heard of money u fucking faggot?

>>61801829
that didn't stop >>61801554, did it?

>>61801765
What configurations make it less unstable, and increase the redraw speeds?

Not worth the extra money IMO

CS is great, but is that worth paying $500+ more to get ?

>>61801743
The build quality on Macs is better than any other laptop on the market. Face it.

Let's face it, tech dweebs don't know the first thing about build quality. Shit, most of them still think 3d printing is revolutionary.... but have never heard of CNC. They think we'll be printing guns instead of cutting them out of metal.

Mechanically disinclined morons, the lot of them. A tech dweeb trying to judge build quality is like a woman trying to judge car performance by how pretty the dashboard is.

>>61801856
>unstable
literally only restart it to reload changed config, not a single crash
>redraw speed
absolutely fine as is
but go wank off to your riced off arch + i3 setup, I'm sure the 150+ hours you spend configuring it to get 10% better draw speeds will pay off when you show off in a screenfetch thread.
meanwhile I'm actually getting paid work done on my ultra comfy 13" 2015 rMBP.

>be regular consumer
>buy a $400 laptop on the recommendation of a bestbuy employee, says it is all I need
>it runs slow
>crashes a lot
>and now it has viruses
>get fed up and buy a near top of the line macbook
>costs 4x as much but it is totally worth it
>windows is a POS

And that is your average mac convert
They cheap out on windows and complain shit sucks
Spend an arm and a leg to get a mac and then praise it

>>61801876
wat, it's worse than shit-tier HPs, watch Louis Rossmann vid's

>>61801946
>absolutely fine as is
1 second redraws? That's pretty fucking slow dude. You don't need to be a ricer to find that annoying.

What configuration options did you have in mind, when you suggested that people should spend more time configuring it?

>>61801948
literally an argument for macs, it just werks
>b-but muh $500 chinkshit has a better CPU
manchilds fail to understand that raw CPU performance just doesn't matter in 90% of use cases
having a good, well-rounded product you can rely on does.
literally every dev at my work (except for one who's using a thinkpad) has a recent macbook pro

>>61801699
>>61801733
>Development is happening on and primarily for macOS Sierra (10.12.6).

Oh, so it's worthless to me. Oh well.

>>61800925
WTF? Mind your own business. Why would you care if someone else uses a MacBook Pro?

>>61801765
There are no tiling window managers on macOS. You cannot install an alternate window manager. You don't seem to even know what a window manager is.

>>61802005
Why would you care if somebody else cares that somebody else again is using a Mac?

Maybe he cares about that for the same reason you care what he cares about. Ever think about that?

>>61801996
Hardware is not the issue to me, it's Apple's garbage software. macOS is no better than Windows.

>>61800925
So, you were locked inside an aluminium tube with the guy for a reasonable amount of time and you just sat their like a pathetic eunuch? You sicken me. You sicken me, and everyone else here you piece of shit. You filth. You reprobate.

>>61801984
I'm not measuring it but it's way << 1 second on my machine.
I could see that if you want to resize shit every few seconds you'll consider it annoying.
For my use case, I have 2 different profiles (internal only vs internal + external display connected), with a few rules to make my dev experience comfy in all circumstances.
e.g. external mode: email/calendar in a monocle on my laptop screen, bsp on my main window with iterm/chrome
internal mode: emacs/chrome fullscreen, one screen in bsp mode reserved for iterm, etc

I primarily use it to change between different windows/desktops and still use tmux/Emacs windows for my splitting needs.
If you want to manage all your splits via your WM that may not work as well, but I'm super happy with this setup

>>61802000
I'm staying on 10.11 (due to other reasons) and it werks fine

>>61802029
But why does he need to be angry?

>>61800908
>performs worse than a 6600U

LMAO@URLYFE MACTODDLERS

>>61802009
Do you call Linux 'GNU + Linux' too?
I'm not autistic enough to fight over terms, sorry

>>61802060
I'm the most productive on macOS, whatever floats your boat
All major OS have their strengths. I use Linux, FreeBSD, macOS and Windows and the latter is the only one I'd drop without hesitation if it wasn't for the software I use that only runs on it.

>>61802178
Why would you be angry that he's angry? Seems silly all around, no?

>>61801236
>spends too much money to show he's not poor
Typical poorfag

>>61802223
False equivalency, that's some FSF evangelism crap. Let me guess, you probably call desktop backgrounds "screensavers".

oh yeah, and Macs don't have all the shit bloatware that windows has, especially windows 10, which basically tries to force feed you Edge along with other garbage software.

>>61800908
I own that exact model. I went in to the Apple™ iStore™ and said plz no TouchBar™.

>>61800908
>3 years later
>Need more RAM
>have to buy a new computer

>>61802502
>>61800908
Who pay you to shill about Mac?

>>61802617
nobody. just don't understand why you fucking faggots bitch about an excellent product because you can't afford it.

>>61802728
Looking at this thread, i would rather a all in one laptop/tablet like >>61800929
than a shit mac or a regular mac for no gaming use.

>>61802728
The cost of a product is one of the most important factors in its value to consumers. Most people could afford to pay $20 for a candy bar if they really wanted to, but the fact that it's so overpriced greatly diminishes the value it has to prospective buyers. I could just as well get a bunch of cheaper candy and eat it over the course of a month.

Apple electronics are for boring vapid people that have nothing better to do with their money.

>>61802782
regular laptop*

>>61800925
Literal Autism

How do I make chunkwm stop wasting my screen by surrounding every window with blank space?

chunkc set global_desktop_offset_top     0
chunkc set global_desktop_offset_bottom  0
chunkc set global_desktop_offset_left    0
chunkc set global_desktop_offset_right   0
chunkc set global_desktop_offset_gap 0

chunkc set desktop_padding_step_size     0
chunkc set desktop_gap_step_size 0

None of that seems to work. Why would a tiling windowmanager default to such terrible behavior? 90% of the reason people use tiling managers is to take better advantage of their screen space...

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>>61802919
forgot screenshot

>>61800908
I just bought that exact model a few days ago OP. I needed it for work and it's way better than I expected.

>>61802919
Oh, never mind. I restarted chunkwm manually and the new config took. I thought this shit said it watched the config file for changes?

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>>61800908
its not free!!

>>61802953
Is there an OSX ricing guide?

>>61803012
I have no idea. AwesomeWM is so much simpler than this it's ridiculous.

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Seriously, why aren't there threads like the ThinkPad autist threads for Macbooks?

I'm not even shitposting, surely there is a comprehensible list of the good Macbooks to date, even if nowdays they aren't so hot, that couldn't have been the case for the last decade.

>>61802942
yeah. My only issue is the keyboard seems a little hard to type on, like the keys need a lot of strength to go down. Have you had that problem?

>>61803103
Mostly because Mac/Hackintosh/OSX threads get shitposted into oblivion.

>>61801578
Finder is life, man.

>>61803106
I like the keyboard, even though a lot of people seem to despise butterfly keys. My hands glide across the keys when I'm sitting on a desk.

I'm used to using Cherry MX Blues when I type on my desktop.

>>61801662
You can use better snap/touch tool for manual tiling. Works nicely and is fast.

>>61803181
hm okay. I have only had it for 3 days so I assume my fingers will get used to the keyboard after a week or two.

>>61803191
Looks proprietary. How can I be confident this isn't spyware?

>>61803275
I guess you can't besides monitoring your shit for 5 minutes to see. BST is an App Store app so it's in the walled-garden, if that makes you feel better for some reason. I've used BST for years now, it's dead simple and gets the job done for fast manual tiling. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>61801611
>>61801699
Except these window managers can only be used with X11 programs. Native MacOS software can't be used with it, rendering any benefit of using MacOS moot if you want to use the WM and vice versa.

>>61803360
No, chunkwm is working with native MacOS software for me. But it's not very good, apparently you need to sink 6 gorillion autism hours into configuring this sort of thing to get the nice user friendly behavior something like AwesomeWM gives you out of the box.

>>61800908
I want to like these but I can never get behind a soldiered hard drive when spending 1k+

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>>61802502
utter bullshit

facebook, twitter, chink-gentoo-searchengines, Photos when you already have iPhoto, iCloud, Siri, iTunes, App Store and herpderp integration in Spotlight. The rest is okayish, but that shit is just trash nowadays all around.

Not even a bluetooth keyboard with backlight or a package manager

install gentoo

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Yeah, why not?

>>61801503
>something only happend once with a single costumer

nothing to defend here

>>61802005
WTF? Mind your own business. Why would you care if someone cares about someone else using a MacBook Pro?

>>61800995
>backlight bleed
No thanks.

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>>61800908
>people defending macOS over windows

ayyy lmao

>apple shills won't fuck off

>>61800908
Don't need it.
Don't want it.

>>61801206
>>61801109

It has 4 thunderbolt/usb-c ports, dickhead.

>>61801517

Going back to a laptop without a touchbar is not possible after using it, it just feels so primitive without.

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>>61805242
>touchbar as a main feature to buy a laptop

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>>61800908
i wonder why the apple is biten.

>>61800908
I don't need a laptop

>>61805220
The one without emoji bar has only two, dickhead.

>>61800908
>customer service is the best on the market.
Genuine conversation in emails with my grandad and apple support.

gd: "hello, i have a problem, when i try to load safari, the computer begins to slow down and safari never loads"
as: "Hello, sir. Im afraid this is an issue with the mac itself. I can refer you to the apple stores website to see what the latest mac book has to offer or we can arrange a replacement"

It pretty much what i would expect from crapple.

Screens nice though but, when your paying 2k for a laptop, you expect it to atleast look nice

>>61805313
Does this actually work?

>>61805526
>"Hello, sir. Im afraid this is an issue with the mac itself. I can refer you to the apple stores website to see what the latest mac book has to offer or we can arrange a replacement"
I read that in pajeet.

>>61805625
ja natrualy. just buy a 1x1 cm gold platine.
do this
???
profit
fuck of my board
reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>61805313
>>61805625
The piece that slides up to the right magically stretches as it moves, so no.

their expensive

>>61800977

Don't jizz on it then...

>>61800908
> wanted to get one last year
> didn't mind USB C ports since I had 2 USB C samsung ssds already
> go in store
> try keyboard
> literally fucking nope

Got a Lenovo P50 instead.

>>61801554
ublock origin is on safari now?

>>61802005
Ugly female

>>61800908
I'm not angry

>>61800908
I've poked at 'em in the stores a couple times but I hate the keyboard. Went with a dell precision instead.

>>61802291
I'm not angry

>>61809147
ugly male

>>61800908
I'm not angry