/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>61787847
Where is the pasta, you dumb fucking weebshit literally KYS no joke

>>61787857
pasta is up your ASS, retardo

R3 1200 or i3-7300?

Really can't fucking decide.

>>61787881
Xeon E3 1230v3

>>61787902
>750 TDP

>>61787916
Unless you live in a third world hot&humid shithole with expensive electricity, TDP doesn't matter in the slightest

Should I get ECC ram if im building a system specifically for passing through hardware to VMs?

>>61787937
Yeah good luck cooling that burning lake of fire.

>>61787847
DES

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repost from prev thread

not sure where to ask, but could /g/ recommend me a laptop that almost always cool when idle or better when full load? around 20-30 if possible. i think a good cooling system with huge fan, loud doesn't matter.
spec doesn't matter, but i hope at least i3 or equivalent. gonna slap ssd into it, so if it comes with ssd it will be a bonus point. no macbook pls.

or is it mission impossible?

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>>61787958

>>61787979
PA

>>61787979
AES

>>61787999
i hate to pry, but why are temps a concern for you? you'll be hard pressed to fit those requirements as the airflow through a laptop literally goes through all of the components.

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>>61787847
God generals are so fucking stupid

>>61787847

help me choose a case senpais.

fractal design define c
phanteks evolv atx
anidees crystal cube (i-i think it's c-cute...)

maybe a be quiet dark base 900 but its a bit bulky.

>>61787881
I3 a shit

Pentium or r3

>>61788237
fractal

but I admired your cuteness
>anidees crystal cube (i-i think it's c-cute...)

>>61788231
>wanting 90 threads with everyone asking dumb questions about PC components

>>61788286
R3 you fucking mug
Captcha: Yeoman sold

>>61787847
I've been looking for that image. Thanks, bro.

>>61788229
i hate hot stuff. a little warm i can tolerate. often make direct contact with the laptop body when using it. from my experience, palm rest cool is just a lip service marketing bullshit.

and for another reason, i use my laptop literally

>>61787881
R3 if you do some multitasking (ie chrome and youtube and shit)
i3 if you only game ,
but game performance is the same on both chips so id personally say R3 bc more cores

[thinking emote]

>>61788046
CI

>>61788237
Define C , looked into cases a bit ago , the fractal cases are amazing (have a Node 804 here)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZ4Lm8

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i7 7700k or i7 7800x?
Don't recommend me ryzen, I want my system to be stable 24/7.

>>61787847
Is this some type of anime dab?

>>61787857
If you want help:
>Assemble parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading
>R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
>Vega soon.

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any <$30 cooler.

>>61788377
TO

>>61788421
>R7/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good luck with that.

CHEAP RAM WHEN ;_;

>>61788421
>all that Poozen shit
Just pick yourself up a nice Kaby Lake i5 and you'll be set tbwh

>>61788479
when memory-chip manufacturers go to court for anti-competetive pratices

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>>61787939

>>61788405
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>>61788492
Tfw got 35$ from that dram lawsuit a few years back.

>>61787939
Beats me, but it can't hurt

>>61788405
7350k because you can overclock it really high and games only use two cores :^)

>>61788405
Ryzen

>>61788383
>>61788289

thanks senpais. my main concern with the define c is that it's going to be a bit cramped for my build and i have lingering concerns on thermals

>>61788634
FRACTAL R5

>>61788616
DONT

>>61788616
this Kappa Kappa Keepo

>>61788648
i want a psu shroud and tempered glass cause i fell for the memes :|

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bcYjr7

Looking for a decently strong gaming PC with some light video editing capabilities

not sure on what case to go with and I've never fucked with liquid cooling before so I'm sketchy on even attempting that, if I go with my current setup do I even need extra fans?

using my 4TB HDD from my current PC as the main storage, the SSD is for OS/commonly used programs

hard budget of $1500

>>61788728
your choice baby

>>61788405
Ryzen , its stable 24/7

>>61788453
good luck w/ that on a 4c/4t i5
:^) >>61788487

>>61788733
>Ryzen 7 1700X
If you don't mind overclocking, you can save yourself $30 just on the CPU here by going with a regular 1700 instead
Also then comes with the Wraith spire cooler, which would mean you don't need the liquid cooler
You should always put fans in all available case slots though
>ASRock mobo
pick literally any other manufacturer, you're playing russian roulette with ASR

>>61788728
tfw got both in my case and I don't see them because it's sits in a cubby

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rb8Nbj

Looking to build a custom loop masterpiece. 8c/16t Intel chip, 1080ti in SLI, custom loop for CPU and GPU...yes RGB...and three 144hz monitors for performance.

>>61788845
not them but are all asrock am4 motherboards shitty?

Im refreshing amazon to see if pre order is ready for vega 56

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWRgM8
im trying to build a computer to edit and to play all games at 1440p, is the ryzen 5 good enough to do just that?

>>61788845
>pick literally any other manufacturer, you're playing russian roulette with ASR
nope , asrock is one of the best manufacturers for AM4 , you shud actually avoid MSI afaik , they arent so nice , asrock boards (esp the AB350M PRO4 or Taichi ) are superb
inb4 asus boards , those are memes

>>61788845
unless the object is to OC this thing to the top, in which case the 1700X would probably be better
your results in the Silicon Lottery may vary, but the X chips seem to have just a little bit more OC headroom in general, or at least you can get the same stable OC at a slightly lower voltage
The Spire cooler also definitely won't be sufficient cooling if you're at 4GHz (or higher)

>>61788880
ryzen is more than enough for good 1440p gaming.

i'd say get a higher wattage psu, maybe 550w at minimum

>>61788845
but isn't liquid definitively superior to air cooling?

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Since no one answered last thread, should I put this old GPU in my new PC temporarily until I get a good GPU next week or will that cause problems?

This old one comes from a family computer that got killed by viruses.

>>61788923
really high-end liquid cooling will outperform even the best sink/fan combo, but you're gonna pay for it

>>61788894
>asrock is one of the best manufacturers for AM4
>EOLs your board
What did he mean by this?

>>61788923
Nope. Their advantage is looks and better part compatibility. They cost more than high end air coolers but their performance is about the same.

i dont think ill actually need a kikeripper but i have a burning desire to get one. help.

someone give me flimsy excuses for why im making a good choice, i need reassurance.

>>61788953
its fine , viruses wont nest themselves in hardware other than storage (hdd/ssd/flash)

>>61789019
having more cores on your CPU will directly improve your chances of getting a girlfriend

What's the best 1080p 144hz 24 inch monitor, preferably one that can be rotated 90 degrees, at around $250-300? I've been looking at this but people are saying that Pixio have shitty quality control

https://www.amazon.com/PX245c-FreeSync-1920x1080-Samsung-Professional/dp/B072K3Z5NC

>>61788986
elaborate

>>61789034
and you will become a certified 4chan hacker

>>61789044
They EOL a 4 month old X370 board leaving those who bought them shit out of luck.
Not sure what else to elaborate.

Is buying a G Sync monitor worth it? How much of a difference would it be if I plan on doing 144 Hz FPS gaming and my system being reliable enough to hit those frame rates

>>61789065
well thats a shame , but its the first time i heard that and warranty will still cover you
(and will likely get you the updated replacement board)

anyway the boards are good , never had an issue w/ mine and Asrock is the only one who puts a competent VRM cooler on the boards and not some rgb flashing lump , oh and they have the only crossfire capable Matx board , wich i kinda need for my 2 furys

I'm buying an i7 for video editing and CPU intensive games (Arma) should I get a 7700k now or wait for a coffee lake with 2 extra cores? Upgrading from a shitty Haswell i3

>>61789113
no point in buying into the gsync premium unless you're really sensitive to tearing. i personally don't notice tearing so i'm going to buy a freesync version of the asus rog swift ips 1440p 144hz and play without any variable refresh. saves like $200 and the higher the fps, the less noticeable tearing becomes in general anyway even if you are sensitive to it. i have a gtx 1070.

>>61789194
>They EOL a 4 month old board
>But they build good boards
Lmao. What the fuck? Does Asrock shill here as well? As bad as all the other companies you claim to be like ANUS, at least ANUS didn't have to EOL a 4 month old product.

>>61787847
My freind wants a "gaming" PC but only gave me a 150$ budget. What should I do?

>>61789258
Get the XB270hu. It is 200 dollar cheaper and still has Gsync.

>>61789332
Buy him an old emachines off Ebay

>>61789332
drive him to the dump and charge him for the trip

>>61788953
lol im in the same boat as you, i put my 9800gt in a brand new r7 build because of gpu prices rn

>>61789332
AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

AHAHHAHAHHAA
FUCKI HAHAHAHAH

>>61787881
wait... r3s are out?

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>>61789531

>>61789531
yes

>>61789531
Where were u?

>>61789332
i would literally give you this old word machine i've had lying around for like 5 years now. it has a phenom 2 processor in it and he can use that money to get a 1050 or something

>>61789498
>>61789507
>>61789509
I was thinking maybe core 2 quad optiplex and gtx 750?

>>61789258
Thanks for the suggestion anon. I was looking at them and the cheapest one had G sync anyway. was hoping I didn't need to splurge 400 on just a monitor

>>61789338
can't find anywhere which sells that monitor. looks like it's eol

>>61789581
Oh yeah it got EOL and replaced by 271. XB271hu. Try this model.

>>61789574
probably the best you could do. your friend is CHEAP as fuck. Does he expect to get anywhere near decent framerates with newer games?

>>61789596
>Does he expect to get anywhere near decent framerates with newer games?

Nope.

>>61789574
Not gonna be able to game shit with that

>>61789606
He better be happy playing his minecraft and minesweeper

>>61789638
build him this compoopoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDLTwS4zgs

How's MSI B350m Mortar for 1700? I'm gonna be overclocking of course.

>>61789612
>>61789596
>>61789620
Shit I just realized the budget is supposed to include an OS, keyboard, monitor and mouse.

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>video card I want will "block drive bay by 10mm"
>don't know if I should change case or card

Never built a PC before, is this really something I should be concerned about?

>>61789655
It is fine. X370 is excessive and their extra features is enthusiast tier

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>>61789658

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>>61789658

>>61789668
Which card?

>>61789658
that's literally impossible
tell him he's a fucktard

>>61789674
The only X370 features a standard user might really truly need are SLI or the extra SATA ports if you have a lot of hard drives

If neither of those applies to you, you should really be looking at a B350 board

>>61789658
Better pray that some retarded ebay seller forgets a zero

>>61787847
man, that show was fucking shit.
dunno what the hell was that garbage, kyoani is fuckin ded

>>61789713
>Standard user
>SLI

>>61789687
gtx 1070

So I've never done this before. Can I get a pirated copy of Win7 for my new machine? I seem to remember my friend back in high school doing that with no problems like 6 years ago

>>61789762
Yes. If you are going to pirate, might as well pirate W10.

>>61789762
>piracy
AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

>>61789713
It's weird how X370 is pushed as the SLI boards when everyone is aware that SLI is waste of time and money for vidya. And for the standard user the 4 SATA ports is just fine because of today's cheap and big HDDs.

>>61789770
I will not be touching anything past Win7, thank you very much.

>>61789771
I'm probably going to be spending $2000 on this thing. Windows can get fucked for becoming what they have in the last few years.

>>61788350
Get a thick gaming laptop or business workstation with a plastic palm rest (something like a Thinkpad W530), disable the dedicated GPU, underclock and undervolt the CPU, replace the thermal paste, turn the fan speed up manually because most laptops won't even turn on the CPU fan if it's below 50C, and cut down your CPU usage while browsing by doing things like downloading your YouTube videos with mpv and disabling as much Javascript as possible.

>>61789820
The only reason to stay on Win7 is because you are afraid of MS spying on you. With piracy, you don't care about it happening since it is not a legal copy.

>>61789713
what bout them VRMs?

Anyone know if the Phanteks P400 TG get pretty good air flow? Also does anyone know if the silent edition actually makes a noticeable diffence sound wise?

>>61789820
If you want to use the latest APIs like vulkan and DX12, you're going to need win10, especially if games come out that only use dx12/vulkan

>>61789658
This is the fucking best I could manage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mQBVvV
Tell your friend he's an idiot and/or asshole

>>61789701
>>61789675
>>61789683
>>61789724
Here is my plan:

See if I can get a monitor from my work or something.

Give him a dell membrane keyboard I have around

Then find a mouse somewhere.

Pirate windows or get steam OS or something.

buy dell optiplex or thinkstation with a core 2 quad or something similar.

Get a shitty used graphics card. Maybe GTX 550 ti or something.

>>61789838
Fuck off M$ shill. 8+10 are shit. I don't want that dumbass pseudo-smartphone layout to replace my glorious Win7 interface. I'm going to use my PC for video/audio editing and pirating+watching movies exclusively. I don't need anything that the latest editions of Windows offer.

>>61789943
Yes. I have a P400s and it has pretty good air flow. I researched a little and yes the silent edition makes a noticeable difference at the expense of airflow. They have covers for the top grid that you can remove to improve airflow.

>>61789958
Man I wish I had that pic of a /g/ anon who made something like a $50 PC using a flashdrive as the hdd

>>61789962
Then install linux moron. Why the fuck do you need PC to do video/audio editing. It is not like the industry standard is using windows either. I bet your dumbass can't use linux so you need to crutch OS to do basic shit that any other OS ca do.

>>61789958
tell your friend to get a job
you will waste more time looking for this shit than he would working to pay for a decent pc

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>>61789954
>mfw the RAM is somehow the most expensive part that goes inside the computer

Hello anons I just want a pc for casual 1080p gayming,internet browsing and movies.. this is the build I came with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJRWQV

>>61789976
Thanks anon. How often have you had to clean your front panel dust filters? All the reviews I've read say they'd probably be a nuisance because of the size and location.

>>61790040
I clean all my filters monthly. Why are they saying it is a nuisance? You just popped out the front cover and then clean the filters.

>>61790053
Not a nuisance in the sense it'd be hard to access them, but because of the small size they speculated they'd need to be cleaned a considerable amount more than the one for the PSU and the top 2 if you used them. Wouldn't be a big deal obviously, was just curious if that was actually the case.

>put blowdryer in case pointed at dust filter
>hook it up to an switch on your case
>turn it on for a few seconds a week
>will never need to manually clean your dust filter like a fucking peasant

someone call up the fucking patent office, we're going to roll in cash

>>61790104
It is always a good idea to clean your filter weekly regardless of their size. It take less than 1 minute to do so. Also I keep the top grid closed because i don't have top fans installed.

>>61790129
Have positive pressure in your case. That is good enough.

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>>61789994
S-shut up, anon, you don't know anything...

>>61789994
do NOT bully the resident windows noobs

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>>61789981
>>61789958
Do this one

I know /g/ is obsessed with mechanical keyboards but does it really matter which kind I get? I'll be using it mostly for writing with no gaymen.

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>>61790385

>>61790397
Wrong general. /g/ has a dedicated /mkg/. But yes, I love typing on my blues.

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I can't figure out what router to buy. The Amazon reviews are all curated to appear identical. They sell old shit and new shit all mixed in a fucking pile.

>>61790418
is that a gf(male) or a bf(female)?

>>61789332
Turn 360 degrees and steal his money.

That said: 360 or PS3. There is no other solution.

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>>61790445
>is that a gf(male) or a bf(female)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vh8Nbj

I've already purchased some of the parts, as they came on sale or had rebates available:
-Case
-Heat sink
-Power supply
-The two Rosewill fans

The Noctua is going on the heat sink, that should be one hell of a cooler

Getting this X370 board because I need/will need the SATA headers (carrying over several platter drives from current computer, might be adding more later. There's a cheaper version of this board with the same # of SATA ports, but apparently the overclocking options for it are junk

>>61790418
>>61790510
MAN WITH TITS

>>61790574
Oh, and I also bought the BD drive earlier, when it was $40

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>>61790587
Yes, yes.

Now, what's the best router for a normalfag internet connection and PC? Who tends for the best build quality with routers?

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I'm helping my friend on upgrading his PC on a budget, here is his current build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JgYXyf

He's planning on getting a 1050 Ti but his processor won't hold up well paired with it so I've asked on a previous thread and the popular answer was an FX 8350, the question is will he need to upgrade his BIOS for Vishera?

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKx3Yr
budget is $3k
using a sony 50" 4k tv

>>61790672
I am in no authority to tell you what kind of router to get, my internet connection is merely one and a half megabits per second.

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>>61788405
Ryzen is much more stable now. Unless you only play game, go 7700k with some good cooler. Those TIM pastes are blocking heat.
I'm still triggered why Intel never solders their CPU.

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Would it be dumb to buy certain parts while I wait for gpu and ram prices to drop?

Thinking of starting with the case and psu. Maybe a monitor as well. The longer I wait the better the parts I'll be able to afford. Or is it best to buy all at once?

>>61790129
>go fully passive
>almost no dust gets into the case
>dust doesn't matter anyway, because for convection cooling the radiator fins are spaced further and therefore are almost impossible to clog with dust
>enjoy the silence as a bonus

>>61790938
if you wait too long, some parts may be outside the returns window if you don't know they're broken until you put it all together and try to turn it on

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Fug none of the fans I've picked so far will fit my mobo. Wat do

>>61791048
>fully passive
enjoy your shitty CPU+GPU and/or massive heat sinks

>>61791090
check with the manufacturer's website, see if they provide an AM4 mounting kit/adapter for any given cooler

>>61791090
D15 comes with AM4 brackets. You can also just ask Noctua and they'll send it for you free.

>>61791077
Good point. Gr. Guess it's all at once then.

>>61791096
Any CPU with TDP below 95W. I think I also saw a passive cooler for any GPU below ~100W of TDP, but in the end I just bought a passive 1050Ti because I don't need anything better.
Obviously you also need SSD and a fanless PSU (they only go up to 500W, but you won't be able to cool something that requires more power anyway so who cares)
>massive heat sinks
Not sure why I should care.

>>61791153
Case should be easy enough to figure out, just open the box and make sure everything is in place, not dented, etc etc

PSU you may not be able to do a full test on, but a lot of them come with a test adapter you can plug onto the 24-pin mobo cable to at least get it to power on

Case fans and hard drives you can test with your current rig

>>61791214
>fanless PSU
never in a million years
if that thing goes bad, it can easily ruin every other piece of hardware in your computer

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Anyone have experience building a PC for a home recording studio?

...I should buy both monitors AND normal speakers right?

>>61791232
>if that thing goes bad, it can easily ruin every other piece of hardware in your computer
True about any PSU though.

>>61791267
but I would never trust a PSU that isn't being actively cooled

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am i missing anything?
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKx3Yr

this is my first build

my Cooler Master heat sink comes with a tube of thermal compound, would springing for a tube of Arctic Silver be worth the extra few bucks?

>>61791345
The difference is 1-2 degrees. If you think it is worth it, then get it.

>>61791295
Why?
It shuts off when it gets too hot (just like any GPU or CPU).
Either sperg about passive anything or accept a passive PSU.

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>>61791341
>Intel

>>61791341
you can do this rig with a 750W power supply, put the savings towards a bigger CPU cooler/fan

and do you really need a full TB SSD if you have a 4TB HDD along with it? massive savings if you get one even at half capacity

>>61791370
>downclock to make intel look better

>>61791365
>>61791295
cont also more than 90% efiiciency in 200W to 520W range means it outputs at most 50W of heat. Easy enough to cool passively if you think about it.

>>61791387
id rather give up the hdd and just keep everything on the ssd
i want this thing to last so i got a ton of memory

>>61791387
what cooler or fan would your recommend?

>>61791427
you can always add more SSDs later when they get cheaper

>>61791444
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
Cryorig H7 is on sale right now, should run a couple degrees cooler than a 212 EVO

>>61791452
fair enough

>>61791483
thanks

>>61791483
> CHOKING HAZARD: Small parts. Not for children under 3 years.
Lol

>>61791483
how about this?
>NH-D15

>>61791559
>here ya go billy, have this block of aluminum.

>>61791578
The NH-D15 is probably one of the best air cooler you can buy

>>61790033
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJRWQV

Yeah looks decent :)

>>61791654
will it fit in my tower? it says its compatible
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvXcD8

>>61791696
>Full tower
>Will it fit
Of course it will.
The problem will be RAM clearance.

>>61791239
Just invest in the best monitors you can afford, secondary speakers shouldn't be a priority. You should reference on as many sources as possible: monitors, crappy pc speakers, headphones, your car, etc.

>>61791578
Noctua is expensive as shit, but it works
D15 is fucking huge though, maybe try something smaller?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9PV3Y61194
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9PV3Y61192
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9PV3Y62135
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAADY44C6758

Just double-check to make sure whatever you buy fits your socket

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>>61791710
>>61791743
pic related
no idea how to check

>>61791798
it looks like i could just remove one of the fans if it wont fit..

>>61791743
also this is the actual ram im using
>CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3866 (PC4 30900)

>>61791798
You find out what socket your CPU uses
In your case, a 7700K is LGA 1151

for any CPU cooler, check that your socket is listed under the compatibility heading

it generally shouldn't be a problem, most coolers are compatible with a broad range of AMD and Intel sockets

>>61791893
This cooler seems like a total waste with just one fan, I would just go for one of the ones listed above with one fan and one fin tower

So I'm finally getting the "Activate Windows" message after 4 months of using windows 10. I forgot what was needed to activate windows on a pirated copy, could someone point me in the right direction?

>>61791960
Roger

>>61791960
Oh yeah, what about that ram? >>61791947

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FWIW, 5% off Amazon starting on October 1st if you have a Discover Card, for those not looking to make purchases right this moment

>>61792008
wtf with that heat sink thing
you don't need that, get regular RAM

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I accidentally did this while looking at my new CPU.

Do I need to go buy some new thermal paste and re-apply it or will this be fine?

>>61792071
I would replace the stock paste with Arctic Silver anyhow

>>61791743
Thanks that helped

repostin - who else /wageslave/ trying to make their build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7M6fTH

>>61792054
But that's faster, why wouldn't I want it?
Just the price?

>Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Is this board good?
Just need the stable intel LAN and pair it with R3 1200 for home server.

>>61792106
yes, I have the x370 and it's excellent

Should I use KMSpico to activate windows 10?

>>61792054
Oh now I see what you mean

>>61791978
RemoveWAT? I dunno

>>61792104
higher price
takes up more space with that cooler
I presume the cooler will also occupy one of your mobo fan headers

get these instead:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232463

also, I just checked your motherboard to make sure they're compatible
they probably won't automatically run at the specified speed/timings right out of the box, you'll need to go into the BIOS and set those yourself

>>61789962
never had an issue w/ 10 , looks nice and is close to w7 , using 10 since the insider beta days , and yes 8 is garbage but 10 is pretty far from it

So, i am in a $700 budget, is this a good build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sPBv9W

>>61792164
Sounds complicated, how about these then?
>CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000

>>61791232
the only ones making those is seasonic , and some other brands where seasonic is the oem anyway, if those go bad , ill eat a broom

>>61790385
LTT actually bought , built and tested it , worth a watch

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>>61792106

>>61792233
This, I couldn't even find any bad reviews for those PSUs.
By the way how the fuck is it possible that there are no shills that would try to make them look bad? Are PSU manufacturers so behind the times?

>>61792209
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8hHm8
cheaper with more/better RAM
stock cooler will suffice unless you go heavy on the overclocking

Hello /g/

This is probably a stupid question.

I want to buy this ram for Ryzen:
https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX432C16PB3K2_16.pdf

It is not on the Motherboard's QVL list. However, this one IS on the QVL:

http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/HX432C16PB3K4_32.pdf

It appears to be the same ram but when the mobo company tested it they put four sticks of it in instead of two.

Basically I'm asking if i should be able to hit 3200mhz with this on an Asus Prime B350 plus board

>>61792316
going to an 80+ Gold power supply might not be a bad idea either if you plan on using your computer a LOT

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gYMFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12g550

Need to pick a power supply to power a 3570k. Will be left at stock clock and no graphics card.

Is there any reason i shouldn't just get the cheapest power supply I can find?

>>61792460
yes

>>61792460
>Is there any reason i shouldn't just get the cheapest power supply I can find?

If you buy a shitty PSU and it pops, it can take out or damage everything connected to it. Or burn your fucking house down.

>>61792423
So, what's the difference between a bronze, silver and gold certified?

>>61792460
Shitty PSUs have a tendency to explode, catch on fire, ruin your computer, or your entire house, and you.

How do you know if a power supply is good or not

Looking for a GPU between $200-$300 or so. My current card is the Radeon 7850 HD, it's been a good card but it's not keeping up with the current games that are out.

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>>61792513
If it doesn't look like pic related

>>61792460
You may not need the watts, but you should still pick a good brand

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817438012

>>61792523
>>61792507
>>61792475
>>61792468
https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=35063

This is what I'm looking at.

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>>61792503
80 PLUS is a certification of how efficient a power supply is in converting wattage from the wall to wattage for your PC

each step up means that your PSU is more efficient at conversion

this is very important if you use a lot of watts, or if you leave your computer running 24/7

>>61792545
Thanks buddy.

>>61792545
80+ Bronze is a bare minimum these days for any power supply worth buying
80+ Gold is highly recommended if you're looking for one that puts out at least 600 watts

>>61792599
Can i get a good 600 gold with decent price

>>61792605
define "decent"
I don't normally recommend Rosewill for power supplies, but this thing reviews well and is stupidly cheap right now
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182330

>>61792605
> "decent price"

Define. Because, manufacturers are not created equal, either. A 600 W Seasonic Gold is going to set you back $70 on a good day, although the occasional rebate lottery & extra special sale might beat that by a smallish amount.

I got a 650 EVGA Platinum for $75 last Christmas. Haven't really seen anything I would consider that good of a deal since.

>>61792648
>>61792605
meanwhile, it's hard to go wrong with EVGA or SeaSonic for power supplies, but they will cost more

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438094
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118

>>61787847
I want a new PC
The question is do I get something now or wait for Threadripper+Vega?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3rHHm8
what mobo

I just wanna know when i can preorder partner vega 56s or even FE's

>>61792703
whichever one reviews the highest, since money seems to be no object for you

>>61789332
At least he can read visual novelsl

>>61790752
>budget is $3k
you've picked some shit parts for that budget

>CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Instead, go with some liquid cooling. Don't know why that isn't a given by now
>Motherboard
Upgrade to a $200 tier mobo. I recommend the ASUS ROG Strix Z270the board. The added features and performance are worth the price.
>Fully-Modular PSU
Go with a semi-modular PSU. It'll save you about $40 to $50, depending on wattage. The only things you won't be able to unplug from the box are the essential parts you NEED to plug into your motherboard, so you may as well go semi-modular and save the money.
>WiFi network adapter
Get a mobo with built-in wifi, like the ASUS mentioned above
>BD Drive
Since you already have a 4k TV, invest in a 4k Blu Ray player. I did, and I don't regret it for a second.
>Samsung 850 EVO
since your budget is $3k, go ahead and upgrade to a PCI-e NVMe SSD. The performance jump isn't as drastic as it is between HDD and SSD, but if you have the budget and don't want to deal with the extra SATA/power cables and if your mobo has the NVMe-compatible M.2 slots (the ASUS above has 2 slots for it), go for the upgrade

>>61792722
I'm not trying to just throw money at it, if you can believe it

>>61792703
The one that cost $300

>>61792703
ASUS ROG Strix Z270e. Will work nicely with the GPU you selected. Also, why not liquid cooling?

Which 128gb ram kit do I get for thread ripper? Also which case is a good choice for cooling housefire PC builds these days? I haven't built a PC for a while, I need something that can hold many radiators.

>>61792599
What? you know Bronze and Gold has no bearing on the quality of a PSU except how much power it pulls off the walls right?

I will take a bronze seasonic over a gold CM any day of the week

>>61792734
>>61792703
honestly, you should probably go for a higher wattage PSU on that thing
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

>>61792756
Go for a full-tower case with premium airflow. Intake fans on the front are a given. I chose a Corsair Graphite Series 760T which has 2 120mm intake on the front and one 120mm exhaust on the back, and added a bottom-mounted intake fan, 240mm liquid cooling radiator in push/pull exhaust out the top. Temps are minimal under load

>>61792731
>Don't know why that isn't a given by now
Because liquid cooling is barely any better than air cooling with the added risk of it breaking, leaking and ruining your entire PC while at the same time costing more.

>Get a mobo with built-in wifi, like the ASUS mentioned above
Don't get critical components on a PC mobo. If the wifi breaks, you have to RMA your entire mobo.

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Hello /g/ I live in a shithole country with fucked up prices. Which one of these is THE DEAL?

3000mhz RAM + MSI B350M Gaming Pro (NOT carbon): $210

3200mhz RAM + MSI B350M Gaming Pro (NOT carbon): $275

>>61792754
Hassle and fear of leakage mostly. The noctua i selected is probably the closest you're going to get to water cooling temps using air.

>>61792781
I don't intend to overclock anything, though

>>61792790
65 dollars isn't worth the 200mhz difference in speed.

>>61792770
I would wager that the increased efficiency is caused at least partly by better components, which should improve your odds of not having a PSU failure
but yes, there are certain brands (EVGA, for example) whose stuff I would trust at just about any wattage or PLUS rating

>>61792703
where the fuck is your monitor stand?

>>61792790
CAS timings on those two kinds of RAM?
If they're the same, it's not worth the expense for the extra speed

>>61792803
fuck i messed it up

the mobo is different too

3000mhz RAM + MSI B350M Gaming Pro (NOT carbon): $210

3200mhz RAM + ASUS Prime B350-Plus: $275

>>61792824

the ram choices are:

Kingston DDR4 16GB PC4-25600 8GBx2 HyperX PREDATOR

or

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 16gb ddr4 blue

Why are ssd more expensive than hdd

>>61792807
Not really. The difference doesn't come from the quality of the components, just the difference in components specs. If they are from the same makers, they should be sourcing their material from the same place anyway so your components should technically be of the same quality.

>>61792823
not listed

2x asus for videos/gayman
1x cheapo benq stood vertically for reading text
1x 55' TV (not listed) for tv, movies, youtube and casual vidya, above the desk and monitors

>>61792839
something something something "the jews"

>>61792839
Their materials are more expensive?

>>61792839
SSD has read/write speeds at much faster speeds than an HDD. An HDD will whine/has moving parts, and is more susceptible to breaking/failure. An SSD works

>>61792839
It's a different type of memory, with no moving parts unlike a hard drive.
It essentially reads and writes almost instantaneously.

Think of it like ram that doesn't lose it's data when you turn off the computer.

>>61792839
platter drives are a mature technology which have been continuously improved and refined over the last 60 years
NAND is considerably newer than that

>>61792861
>>61792880
Well thats great. Too bad i don't have money for a SSD ATM

Did the vega 56 come in yet?

>>61792853
elaborate on "asus for video/gaymen"
asus makes many things

>>61792909
>Asus - PB328Q 32.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor

>>61792906
Pre-order starts on 14th
NDA starts on 14th
No idea when availability will be

what's the white man's graphics card?

>>61792943
what about the 64?

>>61792968
Applies to all of the vega cards

>>61792943
>releases on the 14th
>preorders are on the 14th
Am i retarded and read something wrong or is this how pre ordering gpu's usually work?

>>61789025
What about a "DVD/CD rewritable drive"?

I've got one from that same PC, might as well use it instead of buying a new one if there's nothing wrong with it.

>>61793061
It is available for order on the 14th. I guess this is how their "pre-order" works.

>>61792782
>Go for a full-tower case with premium airflow. Intake fans on the front are a given. I chose a Corsair Graphite Series 760T which has 2 120mm intake on the front and one 120mm exhaust on the back, and added a bottom-mounted intake fan, 240mm liquid cooling radiator in push/pull exhaust out the top. Temps are minimal under load
That's not going to be nearly enough cooling. Due to the recent rise in bitcoin prices I have no price limitations but I hate all the recent stupid gamer crap.

>>61793112
>not going to be nearly enough cooling
8 fans in the case overall plus a liquid cooling radiator. Aside from custom liquid cooling pipes and similar setups, does it get any more overkill than that?

>>61793112
>>61793143
Regardless, just to hold multiple radiators, you'll need a full-tower case with optimal airflow. Where's the flaw in my original post?

I need you guys's help. I am in need of a new router. My modem is capped at 150mbps. My connection is capped at 200mbps. I need to cover a small area.

Should I buy up, or should I just stick with a bare basic $20 wireless-n router until I need fancy features?

>>61793202
Run a cable

>>61793215
This is for phones and shit. Main rig is a cable.

>>61792756
Look into thermaltake, many of their cases have a lot of mounting points for radiators (240mm).

The v21 is only matx yet has spots for 4x 240 radiators, 6 it you swap/buy a different panel, as well as a 200mm intake fan and another 140 mm radiator.

Find a full atx case by them

>>61793223
Fuck it. Buying this one because it looks like a bunny.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FWYGJS

>>61793223
Buy a wireless dongle for your PC and turn your PC into the hotspot. No need for any fancy router.

>>61793261
>Weighing my shitty PC down with having to process other peoples' internet requests
Nein.

Hi guys. Is wireless adapter for my pc better or should i just use a wired

>>61793298
>Other people's
What?

1155 build sandy or ivy i7?
https://youtu.be/xhuC8Tf9i3I?t=3m4s

>>61793324
If you want my opinion as a faggot who believes in the importance of competition, I'd recommend an AMD build instead simply because Intel have acted like petulant little fucks and they really need their shit checked.

>>61793324
Cofvee

>>61793347
>>61793356
thanks for the input, I already have a used Z68 and 16GB ddr3 tho

If spider or any bugs get in my case. What do?

>>61793385
Set it on fire.

My case has the necessary screw holes to mount the power supply fan-side up or down
the underside vent which would supply the air with the fan facing down is not as wide as the fan itself, but two hard rubber stands which prop the PSU up in line with the back mount provide a gap of about a centimeter between the PSU and the floor of the case
additionally, there's a mesh filter which runs under the case, covering this vent and the vent for a nearby fan mount
will the PSU be able to draw sufficient air through the underside vent/filter to cool properly?

>>61793402
If the case is elevated by feet/legs and there is a dust tray or other mesh below the PSU, go fan-side down

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>>61793402
fuuuuuuuck, forgot pic

>>61793411
the case does sit up on "legs" which run the full length of the sides of the case, creating a channel for air underneath, but it's maybe just a little more than a half-inch of room

>>61793439
as long as it's not sitting on a cushy carpet, there will be more than enough room for airflow. They wouldn't put a mesh/dust tray there for you to block it with the solid side of the PSU or if they expected any more room than the legs allow. Go fan-side down for the best cooling for the PSU

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>>61793455
that's what I figured, but thanks for the assurance

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>>61793402
So long as you never make the newbie mistake of putting a computer case on carpet... probably.

People have done that. People have done that. I haven't. Dumbest thing I ever did was fry an entire board by forcing a power cable in upside down.

>>61788426
Uma...

Build me a pc for $1100 please /pcbg/

>>61793246
>Look into thermaltake, many of their cases have a lot of mounting points for radiators (240mm).
>The v21 is only matx yet has spots for 4x 240 radiators, 6 it you swap/buy a different panel, as well as a 200mm intake fan and another 140 mm radiator.
>Find a full atx case by them
Thermaltake core x9 seems ok, can fit 3x 480mm radiators without being too large.

>>61793719
if you cant even pick out the parts how are you going to assemble it

DeepCool GAMMAXX 400 on hella sale today

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-856-005

Should be 212 EVO-ish in terms of performance?

>>61788350
What's your budget?
Maybe the laptop I have is way out of your scope, but from my experience using it on my naked legs this summer is that it doesn't get hot at all.
Dell XPS 15

>>61793738
I know someone

I have a question related to cases.
I'm currently using an HAF 912 and it's ugly as hell, I want to replace it with something tidier or tinier, and that doesn't look aids inducing.

I wanted to buy one of those Cooler Master Elite 130 because it's sorta tiny and the shape would better fit on top of my new desk or below it, but I have 4 HDDs and 2 SSDs, which wouldn't fit in there.
Are there any "tiny" cases or cube cases that have enough drive bays or am I just going to have to buy a normal tower style case and deal with it?

I need a heater for my room to fend off the biting cold of a New England winter. I can either afford a heater or a graphics card. Will a GTX 1050 Ti keep me alive?

>>61793795
4 HDDs and 2SSDs on a mATX board?

>>61793385
Name them

>>61793894
My current motherboard is not mATX, I actually don't remember which board it is exactly and I'm not at home right now to check, but I have all those drives connected on my case.

I am doing an overhaul of the whole system, so I'm actually buying a new motherboard, cpu, etc. The only things I want to keep from my current system are the drives, fans and GPU.

>>61793920
Tiny cases or cube cases are almost always mATX only. You will have more problems finding a mATX board with 6 sata ports than a cube that lets you mount multiple drives.

>>61793814
no

>>61794061
Oh no.

>>61793939
Alright, guess I'll just buy a normal style tower then.
Thanks.

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>>61792077
>Arctic Silver

>>61794154
AS5 is the standard, and for a reason
what would you use?

>>61794282
Mayo

>>61793795
You're SOL. The people who buy tidy meme cases are also the ones who run 1 SSD and 1 HDD at most and want a clean interior (no drive bays) for """""minimalism"""""

R5 is probably your best bet

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>>61794282
>AS5 is the standard
this is bait

>>61787847
Hey guys, can anyone tell me the difference between these two cards


https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Z8cMnQ/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-video-card-strix-gtx1080ti-o11g-gaming

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yr8H99/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-video-card-strix-gtx1080ti-11g-gaming

i see the higher clock speeds, but is that what i'm supposed to be paying a 150 dollar premium for?

>>61794416
indeed it would seem
not worth the extra money

>>61794416
One is overclocked out of the box.

It's bullshit. Even the Amazon page misrepresents them.

>>61794416
Better binned chips. With GPU boost, OC branded nvidia cards will always outperform non OC branded nvidia cards given the same cooler.

The difference is around ~100 mhz which translates to 2-3 fps or more depending on the game you are playing.

You are getting the faster card for sure. Is it worth 150 dollars? Up to you.

>>61794416
that's cray-cray
you can get differently-clocked versions of the same card here in the US, but the step in price is usually more like $20

How is ryzen cpu's performance in flipland? Everyone around me still uses intel.

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>>61794358
I think I've found one case that might work, it's not very pretty but it would do the job.
The HAF XB Evo, I found a Micro ATX board that has 6 sata slots and the XB evo has 4 3.5 drives and 2 2.5 drives so I could fit all my drives in there.

I wish there were more cases like this with a less gay design.

>>61794602
ugly as fuck

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Is 4chan slow as shit today for anyone else or is it just me?

>>61794602
Cooler Master's Ark Of The Covenant suffers from a design flaw shared by that style of case. The motherboard is topdeck over the PSU. If you can manage to cool it properly, not a problem. But it's something to keep in mind.

>>61794657
Yes it's ugly as fuck, I fucking hate it.

>>61794681
I would mount the spare fans from my current case on it so I figure i'd have nice airflow.

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When can I expect companies to announce motherboards that will be compatible with intel's gen 8 cores? I don't want to wait any longer.

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>>61794756
Never. No company is going to. They'll throw full weight behind AMD and Intel will piss and shit themselves publicly in furious outrage.

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>>61794756
>Intel

>email vendor when vega will be available to buy at their store
>Get message from poo in loo pavesh saying they don't know
>Even the poos don't know when vega will be available
Just kill me senpai. Cryptoniggers are gonna order everything before me I just know it.

>>61795098
good, it'll free up the 1060/70/80's they're hoarding at the moment

I'm really tempted to just get the cheapest 4gb of ram that's supported by my mobo and wait until prices drop for more. When will this happen?

Damn. EVGA 550w PSU just went on sale for $60.

Sort of unrelated, but I've not changed the thermal paste on my CPU cooler in like four years.
I noticed my temps are a bit higher lately.

Will I be fine or should I totally change the paste.

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UcOozDxMox
>this is how my psu sounds all the time
not /comfy/ at all desu

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>>61794756
Tsubaki gives me a boner. But the complete lack of decent RX cards in Canada makes me flaccid.

I am thinking of bitching out and buying some piece of shit pre-built. Seems better than parting out a computer that is basically not even going to be functional for at least another month.

>>61795534
It won't all of a sudden explode if that's what you're worried about, but if you want to decrease temps by what I would assume is going to be a significant drop, change it.

>>61795540
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UcOozDxMox
I had that exact same issue and I fixed it by flipping it upside down. Now it's completely silent.

>>61795687
>flipping it upside down
wouldn't that make the air go in the opposite direction?
i might try it. i was thinking of replacing the fan completely but i cannot be fucked cutting and resoldering cables for an old psu

>>61795748
If your case has good airflow it shouldn't be a problem. You'll just make the PSU suck air from inside the case instead of through the grill outside.

My PSU used to be very noisy with the fan, ever since I flipped it upside down it's been working silent and like a charm. And I have so far not noticed any performance issues, no crashes, no overheating and no noticeable higher temps on any other component.
I was actually about to buy a new PSU when I decided to try that before pulling the trigger, and it worked. Had mine flipped for a month now with no problems.

Could someome check this build for things that can be exchanged for better parts while staying in the same price range? Also, is this a magic smoke verified psu or will it be fine?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKTLm8

>>61787847
I actually found that pretty funny

>>61795940
what's the usage? if it's for gayming then i'd do something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4ps2sJ
less ram and more budget components (expect psu), but you'd have a much better cpu. if you don't plan on doing aaa gayming then your build is good too.

>>61795833
pc is old 775 piece of shit, my case doesn't even have any fans and i actually removed my side panel.

>>61796093
If the side panel is off then it shouldn't make much difference to the PSU to upside down except it'll be less noisy. Just give it a try.

Is it a good time to buy ryzen cpu and mobo? Or should i wait the apu release?

>>61788880
PSU sucks ass

>>61792831
Get the asus one if you're getting an R5 or R7
The MSI one has shit VRM, but it should be fine for R3