GNOME won. GNOME is the best DE now.

>>61750846

emacs is the best desktop environment.

in b4
>he thinks emacs is a desktop environment.

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>fuckhuge menu bar that takes 1/10 of the screen
No

>>61750846
gnome runs like shit, cinnamon will win

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>>61750846
>GNOME

I like kde plasma

>>61750846
Not even close.

>>61750846
XFCE is the Aryan man's choice of DE.

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>>61750866
Where?

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>>61750912
>it's been 13 years

>>61750846
Maybe when they add thumbnail previews in the file picker and fix type-ahead in both the file browser and the file picker.

>>61751076
How did you get this look

>>61750846
Gnome won ten years ago.
Dumb frogposter.

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>>61751436
install a dock and make the bar transparent?

I want ti try deepin, but I don't want to change distros.

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>>61751548
gnome BTFO

Redhat is a cancer

>>61751436
You can just install elementaryOS and customise it a little to get it to look like this.

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>>61750846
damn right nigga

>>61751436
>>61750866
One habit you have when using Proprietary software is that you assume that free software is just as unflexible, you can change many things in GNOME, as you can in Xfce, you can install extenstions and different themes and even sounds.

>>61750978
this.

>>61751662
but then you'd have to install elementary os

Gnome is shit, it doesn't even have independent workspaces per monitor.

>>61750846
>not mate

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>>61751771
I am using kde fag

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>not using xfce in the year two thousand and seventeen

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>>61751436
this is ubuntu as a starter but with the following gnome extensions:
dash to dock (for the dock)
activities configurator (for the transparent top bar and pepe)
applications menu
places status indicator
caffiene
the top bar is set to display the date (in gnome tweak tool)

and heres the wallpaper

>>61750846
>Goes on internet.
>Posts frogs.
>Tell lies.

>>61753276
forgot to add:
the icons are numix circle & the shell theme is vimix light

I thought cinnamon won

>>61750864
>he thinks emacs is a desktop environment.
it's an OS senpai

>>61753304
forgot to add again:
the dock colour is set to transparent in dash to dock settings

>$CURRENT_YEAR
>not using awesome
yikes

>>61750846
Tile managers btfo DEs

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>Unity lost
AND IT WAS THE MOST USABLE DE. FUCK ALL YOU AUTISTIC FUCKS WHO WANT TO RUN EVERYTHING FROM COMMAND LINE AND MAKE THE MOST SIMPLEST OPERATIONS NEEDLESSLY COMPLEX.

>>61753542
I remember when this was the dominant opinion on /g/ back in like 2009

>>61753560
They're going to port it to wayland, you should be happy.

>>61753304
Thanks

>>61750846
>dogshit default applications
>best DE
Choose one

test

>>61751804
elementary os is great for your mom who hasn't used anything but windows. I installed it on a pc I gave her (that I got for free) a year ago, bookmarked a wiki (don't remember which one), and showed her how to use the terminal. I haven't heard a single complaint.

Isn't gnome part of systemd now?

the biggest problem with kde is that all the preloaded shit it comes with is name "k-" something

>>61754306
Just uninstall it lol

>>61750846
Plasma > Shit > Gnome

>>61750978
I agree

>xfce
>just werks
>light

Why run anything else?

>>61753851
Excellent idea. You will be the goyim of month.

>>61750846
Is for the best.

>>61754428
Because i3 is better

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>>61751076
This, but I take it a step further and auto-hide everything.

>>61754957
i3 doesnt have gconf. Wtf do you edit your shit with notepad?

>>61751436

suckCock && (withLips || withRingPiece)

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>>61751826
Wrong. Works great.

>>61756009
vim

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>>61753560
This^

I really want to quit linux right now but there isn't any other choice.

I'll stick on current LTS until support finished and then I must think what to do next...

>>61753560
>>61756244

wow, people actually liked using unity? I quit linux for 4 years because ubuntu adopted that shit netbook interface by default. only got back into linux on desktop this year with gnome 3.24 which is finally usable

>>61753775
Because she already uninstalled it

>>61750846
Really? What changed?
Should I swap to it from XFCE?

>>61753560
the linux community is tearing itself apart lisa

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>>61750846
Candy coated cancer

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>>61756302
Unity is the DE that "Just werks".

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>>61750866
so?

>>61756244
I use Unity on Ubuntu 16.04 and Gnome on couple of Arch machines. I'm just wondering, what is it about Unity that you find so appealing? To me, they're not all that different. I find Gnome to be a little more flexible, desu.

>>61756387
Hey! Xfce may be dated as fuck, but I wouldn't call it cancer.

>>61753560
>>61753708
unity is cancer and mark is a faggot
>forks gnome into unity
>forks wayland into mir
so what now? steam has to make games work for mir but not wayland? fuck you

>>61756426
see >>61756410

>>61756410
that depends on the shell theme in use
you can also have the shit visible only in overview

GNOME is the best most usable DE

prove me wrong fa/g/gots
>protip
you can't

>>61756527
try to change the scroll speed.
try to display normal sized thumbnails in the file picker

>>61750912
>>61751188

This is always worth a check every so often.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

>>61756446
>muh current year DE
all of which bring nothing to the table except memes and bloat

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>>61756302
How it manages desktop space, HUD, global menu, window control in the same side of dock, how manages virtual desktops...

It was so comfy, I remove my dual boot and go Ubuntu only after unity.

>>61753560
>uninstall gnome
>install unity
There you go. Or better yet,
>install MATE or XFCE

>>61756426
Here >>61757395

I have tried gnome shell like 2 or 3 weeks, it have some things what I like but there are more things that disgust me. (Tray icons, waste a lot space, notification panel require 2 clicks for everything, most options are hidden, window buttons opposite to dock, etc...)

and it doesn't look customizable for me, not without a ton of addons.

It is not for me :/

>>61751690
The new FF logo is horrendous.

>>61751690
How did you get that dock?

>using de
stick to windows, bud

>>61750846
Cinnamon Master Race.
XFCE is for fags that like screen tearing.
GNOME is for fags that don't have multiple monitors, because GNOME has less configurability than fucking fischer-price.

I prefer xfce over Gnome

>can't even into proper HiDPI
>best
Literally only KDE and Unity can scale the UI by 1.5x, 1.2x, and so on. The rest of DEs can't even compete. Gnome, Cinnamon can only scale by 2x, and XFCE, MATE can't scale at all.

>>61756538
i suppose only kde has working gui for that

i personally don't care about that, i always hated browsing for files with that window on windows

>>61758356
>blaming the a de for your retarded consumer choises
only gnome can into wayland
on xorg you can scale anything with randr

>>61758374
There is literally no reason why a DE shouldn't have a proper UI scaling support out of the box in 20fucking17.
Enjoy your eye rape, I guess.

>>61753198
>kde
enjoy your laggy bloated ugly unmaintained piece of shit developed faggy germans that uses gay ass Qt

>>61753560
It was pretty shit compared to other DEs, imagine going from building houses with bricks and concrete to building legos

>>61753560
This. I switched to Windows 10 when this happened. Fuck Linux, fuck the Linux community, and fuck Red Hat trying to push their shit from the init to the DE.

>>61753560
> Install KDE
> find a unity inspired look and feel
You realize we aren't telling you to use i3 or GNU screen for all your shit; a DE is still just a DE

>>61750879
> gnome runs like shit
> therefore gnome + bloat will win

I really want to get used to gnome but everytime I try it I get nausea and feel the urge to puke.

>>61753276
Sounds like it just werks.

I would like gnome to win but i feel like it isnt light enough, the performance should be better on slower computers

How much RAM does GNOME use post-boot with nothing else started?

>>61759319
You're not alone in feeling that. It's way too bloated to be the default Ubuntu desktop in the next LTS.

>>61758416
>Enjoy your eye rape, I guess.
im not the retard who purchased a stupid display :^)

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>>61759345
about 500 megs depends if gnome-software or something is running in the bg

>>61759479
I'm trying to compare it to Unity's base starting usage. Unity does come out better, I get it to about 400mb at startup on a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04.

i mean its certaintly better than KDE but that's like being better than a pile of dog shit you still are not very good

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>>61750846
>tfw godlike workflow

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>tfw you run cinnamon and can't relate to any of these fags complaining

>>61757825
heresy
butanefox, bestfox

>>61759697
I like cinnamon, titlebars are still too big but that just free software for you

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>>61750846
wrong. digits never lie

>>61753317
Sadly it lacks good text editor...

>>61759823
It will be deprecated with next LTS though.

>>61759827
>what is evil mode

>>61751771
You CAN change things, but it's a pain in the ass to do so. Adjusting the UI is most of the pain of web development without the benefits, and making light tweaks to functionality is annoying because it's so insistent on maintaining its screen wasting core design. It's led to this horrific ecosystem where changing nearly anything requires a grossly overengineered plugin, like a cheap facsimile of mobile phone app stores.
GNOME devs just want to pad their resumes so Apple will hire them.

>most comfy
MATE and Xfeces tie for this, mate will eventually win because it's still in active development though
>most features and modern shit
KDE plasma hands fucking down
>best wm
i3, best of both tiling and floating worlds
>best for lag, abysmal battery life and needing 50 addons to be usable
GNOME

>>61751584
>TEX Bench
???

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>>61759909
Are you retard or something?
Just download theme file and move it to ~.themes and select it at Gnome Tweaks.
How hard it is?

>>61759923
>xfce is not maintained
please die already
https://blog.xfce.org/

>>61759923
>>best for lag, abysmal battery life and needing 50 addons to be usable
a tad bit over exaggerated don't you think

>>61759955
i don't think he was talking about themes

you really can't change shit unless you know js

>>61759966
All they're fucking doing is porting shit to Gtk3, mate has a full list of shit they're gonna add including hidpi and Wayland support.
>>61759979
I literally doubled the battery life of my x201 by removing GNOME and installing plasma, with nothing else configured.
And the only GNOME addon I was running was dash to dock, it ran really hot too.
Yes this was the latest version of GNOME from the arch repos

>>61760013
well maybe kde pulled tlp for you

>>61760048
I already had tlp and powertop installed and running.

I prefer xfce, mostly. Some times I use i3 but most of the time I'm in xfce

I'm curious about the next Unity environment though

>>61760145
>next Unity environment
???

>fresh arch install with minimal gnome + essential gnome programs
1GB+ ram usage
>fresh arch install with minimal plasma + essential kde programs
less than 500MB

Defend this.

>>61758023
Use dash to dock plugin

>>61760387
>>61759479

>>61760387
RAM is supposed to be used

>>61760387
Free ram is useless, full ram is bad tho

>>61761145
Not used 100% by the DE you fucking retard.

>>61750866
this

>>61761145
>>61761161
Yes, and the operating system will use it for caching if nothing else uses it. Desktop eating more RAM and saying "its supposed to be used!!" is a stupid argument. That is just more RAM away from other software and can't even be used for caching. RAM should be used, but it doesn't mean your software should use as much as possible

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>>61761176
> ≈1gb is 100% of my ram

>>61761237
>implying gnome uses 1gb

>>61761219
This is only relevant if you do not have more than 4gb of ram, unless you use ram heavy soft

But I is shit for laptops, drains battery too much!

>>61761145
Used, not wasted.

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>>61750912
>>61756555
>Here's my patch for gtk+2 (because of Firefox and GIMP)
>page does not exist

>>61756466
unity 8 was all original and based on qt5

mir was all original code too

>>61763885
unity 8 was never released, wasnt talking about it
>mir was all original code too
no it isnt

>hear about how i3 and tiling wms in general are a meme, for ricers only, take more work than normal des etc

>try it out anyway
>fits my workflow perfectly
>i no longer have to manually fiddle with my windows to tile them the way i want
>nice settings out of the box with the only thing you really have to configure being your shortcuts
>daemons and settings tools from full DEs still work fine

nearly got meme'd on again lads

>>61763973
>>i no longer have to manually fiddle with my windows to tile them the way i want
so you didn't know super+arrow
>assuming you were implying gnome-shell

>>61763924
It was released in beta form

there's already two forks
https://ubports.com/
https://github.com/yunit-io/yunit

>>61763924
>no it isnt
[citation needed]

>>61763973
This. Of course it depends on your workflow.

At work I use Windows 10 (not my choice), but I do the dev stuff in a VM running Ubuntu minimal with i3.

>>61764043
Why use a VM when you can use WSL?

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But does it have 100s of amazing RNG screensavers?

>>61753560
>calling amazon botnet "powered" gtk2/3 hybrid with qt dependencies for "next release" since 6 years with broken shortcuts and compiz usable
dude the layout was nice but thats it, even the global menu was broken since forever and it didnt register new applications being installed unless your locate database was updated (and the scripts for updating it on every software install were broken too)

>>61751584

How is i3 not the fastest

>>61750866
Gaburieru~!

>>61753198
Gaburieru~!

>>61764036
not him but you may want to read mir wikipedia page, it was using alot of waylands shit, EGL implementation and Xwayland, libinput and other stuff.

>>61756244
Chii-chan~!

>>61757395
Gaburieru~!

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>>61764560
>>61764571
>>61764587
onii-chan yamete!!

>>61750846
> GNOME
Kek.

>>61757825
Yep, I had to go back to dev edition.