Intel Finished & Bankrupt, BTFO

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>>61747918

>>61747918
This is nonsense. Ryzen is already outperformed by Kaby Lake, the upcoming Coffee Lake 6 cores will absolutely dominate Ryzen in multi and single thread performance. AMD just glues cores together and hopes for the best, with Intel you are getting a tried and tested product that you can rely on. You only have to look at the multitude of stability and performance issues users have been experiencing since Ryzen's release to realize that only Intel can deliver consistent desktop performance.

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>>61747989
STFU

>>61747918
JUST WAIT

>>61747918
Ryzen is yet another Piledriver, too many cores. Most applications in the real world don't use more than one or two cores anyway, you don't really need more than four cores and eight threads unless you are dealing with some seriously heavy workloads. Why do you think Intel has had such success with the 4c/8t formula for so long? It's because with too many cores you use too much power and it runs hot, Intel has much better single thread performance for that reason.

>install gentoo on my brand new ryzen computer
>SEGFAULT.ogg starts playing

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>kikeripper

>>61747989
>This is nonsense. Ryzen is already outperformed by Kaby Lake
False, every Intel offering is underclocked and has fewer threads. How can the processor LITERALLY run fewer operations per second and perform better?
>, the upcoming Coffee Lake 6 cores will absolutely dominate Ryzen in multi and single thread performance.
Numbers when, pajeet?
>AMD just glues cores together and hopes for the best
And applying a decent clock rate.
>with Intel you are getting a tried and tested product that you can rely on.
Lol no, they backdoored all their CPUs with a noob programming mistake
>You only have to look at the multitude of stability and performance issues users have been experiencing since Ryzen's release to realize that only Intel can deliver consistent desktop performance.
What issues? I've heard nothing about Ryzen issues.

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>>61747918

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>>61747989
>>61748055
Brian, the shareholders.

>>61747918
>Intel up until 2000 relies on transistor shrinkage without and major architecture changes
>In 2000 they come up with Netburst in order to reach 20ghz speeds.
>Fails, Chips ran very hot, and where less efficient then the Pentium 3s at launch
>Rather than pushing speed they follow AMD and go the more core count in order to keep performance and progress moving forward.
>AMD shits the bed with bulldozer
>Intel finds during it's near total domination of the laptop and desktop market that Ring Bus won't scale very well
>they start buying up large entities in the hopes they can find talent to fix the problem
>This is why during this time we don't really see much improvement over core count, not due to Intel's greed, but do to ont being able to come up with something better.
>Amd brings back Jim Keller to solve the same problem
>intel Doesn't really change much to their CPUs until they can figure something out, realize on smaller transistors in order to get small gains each generation, not in too much of a hurry.
>They get some AMD silicone in their labs to see what they came up with.
>They now have to use what they got in the form of Mesh even though it's not ready
>Ryzen launch
>Mesh launch
We know for a fact that Intel CPUs with Mesh run very hot and use more power compared to AMD at this time, You can debate on which has better performance but that's not the point. I think they won't be able to solve the heat problem while pushing more cores, similar to how they couldn't push more speed on Netburst without running into heat problems. AMD I think will scale better at 10nm and 7nm due to Jim's design and we will see difference in performance close that of the Pentium 4 and Athlon 3000+ days.

>>61748067
>I've heard nothing about Ryzen issues.
Do you live with your head in a bucket? Why do you think Ryzen motherboards are needing a BIOS flash every other week? People are constantly having issues with RAM, lowered performance and instability even on brand new chips. Intel is far more stable and offers far better performance for the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSrCy3m9cI

Intel have shipped Jay a 1920x without asking. He's literally gonna toss it in the trash.

>>61748055
And yet Intel processors run the same heat with fewer cores. Such an efficient space heater!

>>61747989
You literally just copy and pasted the Intel marketing slides and people are replying. Bravo.

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>>61747989
oh you also read that intel slidedeck.
the one where they just pulled shit out of their ass?
pic related, its the slide in question where intel is being full of shit as always.

>>61748099
Like that time Sandy Bridge fried it's SATA controller? Or the numerous known Intel errata in x86 that come up with every new processor? Launch teething troubles are not new or unexpected.

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>>61748106
>Intel have shipped Jay a 1920x without asking
Intel shipped him an AMD Threadripper CPU? How nice of them?

>>61748106
Oops! I meant a 7820x

Shitty CPU numbers.

>>61748099
not to mention you have to buy expensive af high GHz dram to get the performance that might be similar to Intel

>>61748115
you forgot the one about the partners, where they listed a few twice to make it seem more.

WHY IS SHE SO SMUG ALL THE TIME

I HATE ITTTTT

>>61748067
>What issues? I've heard nothing about Ryzen issues.
There are literally 2 threads right now on the front page, poojet.

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>>61748148

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>>61748141
oh yea, this one for anyone who doesnt want to find source.

>>61748169
PAJEET IN STREEEEETS

RRRRRRUHHHHHHH

>>61748099
That's odd. You'd think that /g/ would be bitching about it. Instead we get a new thread every day about Intel being cool and awesome for undefined reasons. And it's always made by someone with an infirm grasp of English...

>>61748148
because she knows there's an army of amdrones who defend her company for FREE

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>>61748148
>when you drop threadripper and it's 50% faster than the competition at half the cost

>>61747989
Yehuda plz, I thought you were forbidden from using electronics during Shabbat.

>>61748221
FUKK OFFF

WTF HAPPENED TO /G/ WE ALL HATED YOU HOUSEFIRE AMDPOORS

UIGHH IM SO DONE WITH THIS PLACE

>>61748197
You keep responding, they keep making them. Strange, isn't it?

>>61748259
Brian please.
UnJUST your fabs, Intel's 10nm is pure fucking garbage.
Just look at the fucking mask count.

>>61748259
Someone shit the bed...

>>61748277
True. But it's fun to laugh at them, at least.

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>>61748259
>when the intel shill cant handle it anymore and goes absolutely ballistic

>>61748132
Delete this post please.

>>61748340
Witnessed.

>>61748259
U mad pajeet?

>>61747989
Skylake-X, Coffee Lake and the next one coming are just band aid solutions.

They will never bring down pricing due to segmentation but what they can really do is bump performance and put forward all the shekels and technology they've been holding back all these years.

They're like the USA before Pearl Harbor, now that they've been stung they're going to be aggressive that monopoly laws won't even stop them.

They're not like Nigvidya who likes to beat up an already damaged AMD but when they do they put out all the stops that only courts really stop them.

>>61748390
>technology they've been holding back all these years.
BRIAN, TEJAS.
WE NEED TO LAUNCH TEJAS.

>>61748390
I think it's going to be a little of what you are saying and what this anon is saying>>61748096

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>>61747918
NOOOOOOOO SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

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Anyone else here just waiting to see all those 1950X cores take up the entire screen on an MSI Afterburner overlay?

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>>61747989
>>61748055
>>61748259

>>61747989
t. intool

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>>61747989
>>61748055
interesting tell me more i cant hear you over the 15% i made in just 1.5 quarters

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>>61748390
>technology they've been holding back all these years

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>>61747918
>tfw nobody cares about threadripper because 99.9% of you faggots won't buy a 12c/16c cpu and Ryzen is still shite at gaming

>>61748608
>15-20 FPS less at 1080p 144hz w/ 1080 ti is "shite"

Tell me more, shill.

>>61748608
>>tfw nobody cares about threadripper because 99.9% of you faggots won't buy a 12c/16c cpu and Ryzen is still shite at gaming

sure it is
https://youtu.be/UfNMn7RWgLw?t=1186

>>61748255
REKT
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>>61748632
>15-20 fps difference on a cpu is not big
Considering the gpu does most of the heavy lifting, 15-20 fps is a sign of a significant cpu bottleneck

>>61748665
>Same exact picture by a no-name tuber
It's almost like, he is trying to bate you into watching him or something.

>>61748636
>the biggest ryzen shill on youtube
>ryzen still loses
wow

>>61748665
Why do you even keep posting this when every game (Except PUBG which was patched) is well over 144 FPS?

>>61748675
How does his name invalidate the benchmarks?

It's like you shills aren't even trying anymore

>hurr I don't know that guy so the benchmarks are false

>>61748680
Lets see the proof or stfu

>>61748686
>How does having no reputation, makes him not reputable

Gee, really activates them almonds, doesn't it?

>>61748679
>>ryzen still loses
half of games shilled intel
half of the other shilled amd

RYZEN LOST

and here i thought brasil knew how to do simple math

>>61748608
>all the fucking cherry picked 1080 benchmarks designed to make ryzen look bad by pegging the CPU
The fact is that most of the people who would buy a chip and GPU that expensive aren't playing at fucking 1080p.

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>>61748636
This kills the poo

>>61748665
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/filename/poozen%20gaming.jpg/

uma delicia

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>>61748665
Why the fuck would anyone buy a stuttery housefire piece of shit for gaymen?

>>61748704
Are you too dumb to read? Do you understand English?

I said, how does him not being 'reputable' invalidate the benchmarks?

>>61748665
No, when you turn down the settings it shifts the bottleneck to the CPU.

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>>61748712
if a buy a gpu that expensive I'll make sure I pair it with the best cpu obviously

Literally in what alternative universe do you live in where you would recommend a 1700 over a 7700k purely for gaming

>>61748736
It makes his benchmarks, non-reputable.
Do you even understand what that means?
Do you comprehend the implications behind this word?

>>61748731
Good question
Why would anyone buy a 1700
>>61748756

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>>61748719
>i3-7350K
What a joke of a CPU.

>>61748760
It means nothing, it's literally ad hominem tier, at the bottom of the argument pyramid, only namecalling sits lower.

You basically concede the moment you sink so low.

Unless you have benchmarks, or other evidence that invalidate his benchmarks those benchmarks are legit

>>61748756
Why do you keep posting these benchmarks with FPS well over 144? You aren't really reccomending a 240hz meme monitor, are you?

>>61748773
>200 fps vs 40 fps
lol nobody buys intel for gayming

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>>61748731
>le ryzen has better minimums meme

>>61748756
I wouldn't, but I might suggest a 1800x if you wanted to actually use your computer for stuff and not shut everything else down while gaming. Maybe I want to run my torrent client or stream while gaming and not suffer because I only have 4 real threads.

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>>61748799
>>61748795
Yes goy buy ryzen, don't go for Intel it's a stutterfest, Ryzen has much better minimums!

>>61748807
If you stream, then yes, more cores are needed, but I have multiple programs running in the background while gaming and the i7 will handle that just fine, stop meming

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>>61748825
Still don't understand why this guy has such shit BF 1 results

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>>61748795
Some people still play older games. Ryzen is shit for games like Skyrim or CSGO, or any number of the late 2000's RTS games that are heavily single-threaded and get huge FPS drops.

>W-WHY WOULD YOU BUY A $400 CPU IN 2017 TO PLAY 10 YEAR OLD GAMES

Do you want me to have a Ryzen system for Ashes of the Singularity and a 7700K system for Company of Heroes? Go fuck yourself retard, why would anyone move from a 2500K or 3570K to a Ryzen CPU just to get worse performance in the games they actually play?

>>61748806
>>61748825
I really enjoyed that video.
Loved the streaming one too.
I just wish they tested more games.

>>61748844
RYzen isn't just shit for older games, it's shit in plenty of new games aswell
>>61748825

>>61748844
If you moved to Ryzen from those old CPUs you'd get better performance in those older games, since the 2500K can't provide any better single core performance even when OCed to the limit.

>>61748789
Nah, it's on him to show his method in real lime, I don't have to trust someone who isn't trust worthy.

>>61748844
If we're just talking gayman then streaming obviously.

>>61748873
You can't discard evidence on the basis that you don't know that person, again that's literally ad hominem tier

>>61748871
>citation needed

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>>61748055

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>>61748844
>Skyrim
Only benchmark I can find but Ryzen does not do that bad at all.
>CS:GO
Another game where the difference is like 350 FPS vs 550 FPS, literally a non-issue.

>83 replies
>29 posters
Intel shills working hard for their shekels today.

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>>61748825
This is Intel's best CPU for gayming, everyone.

Muh gigahurtz.

>>61748885
>Evidence
There is no evidence unless you know how and where they were gathered, if that is unknown to you, it's just paper.
>again that's literally ad hominem tier
No, you just like that word so much and think it's has any effect on anyone, like a moron that you are, and before you say "again that's literally ad hominem", it wasn't.

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>>61747918
SEGMENTATION FAULT

>>61748920
>your whole post
Yeah..no

The evidence stands, you don't have an argument

>b-but I don't know that guy

>>61748909
you mean amdtars pretending to be intell shills and replying to each other
anyway kys

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>>61748194
MORE LIKE POO IN THE JOO :^)

>>61748933
Provide evidence first.
>b-but I don't know that guy
Not what I said at all, you don't understand the implication of words i'm using, maybe it's not to go back to school?

>>61748903
>skyrim
Anyone who's played Skyrim with mods knows it runs like roasted asshole, it drops to 40FPS in cities even with mild-mods on an OC'd i7. Ryzen would be even worse.

I don't know on what planet they are getting 150FPS minimums in Skyrim unless I've had my head in the sand and the updated Skyrim runs a lot better.

>csgo
Again a game where the minimums is the only thing that matters. With CSGO you need a minimum of 200FPS, the game engine is dogshit and it ruins your mouse inputs if you have an unstable framerate.

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>>61748886
In pure single threaded performance even a 2500K OCed to 4.5 GHz can't beat Ryzen OCed to 3.9 GHz.

>>61748946
Find some evidence to disprove his benchmarks, or stfu, you dumb cunt

>>61748756
>max OC 1700
>STILL 40 FPS under STOCK 7700

W O W
O
W

HOLY FUCK

D O A

A M DEAD

>>61748964
>6 year old cpu has the same single threaded performance as AMD's flagship cpu

Really makes you think

>>61748960
So now you're adding mods into the mix? Why would that even be a valid benchmark at that point? Just throw whatever you want at it, who cares?
>With CSGO you need a minimum of 200FPS
Ryzen will give you 350 FPS before OC, and this shit only matters to pro players anyway.

>>61748966
Why should I disprove or prove something that isn't valid as evidence?

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Sorry but nobody would buy poo in the joo products.

>>61748987
Because you haven't invalidated the evidence

>>61748986
So you're telling me Ryzen doesn't support modded Skyrim, are you retarded? How is it not a valid benchmark to compare the game with the same mods between two processors?

>ryzen will give you 350fps...
Yeah nah it wont son, go download that shit right now. Even with a 7700K at 5GHz you'd be lucky to stay above 200FPS in a 16+ man community server on Dust 2, on the worse optimised maps like Train you'll even get shit framerate in 10 man matchmaking.

>>61749010
Yes I did.
You might not like it, but there is nothing in his video that is reputable.

>>61748841 dx12
>>61748825 dx11

>>61748964
4.5GHz is a moderate overclock for Sandy Bridge and far from "the limit". I run my 2600K at 4.6GHz day to day because that's a nice comfy overclock with low temperatures, but it does 5GHz.

>>61749022
I don't even know what you are trying to say here, as someone who used to be global, and had 300fps with a fucking 2700k, I think you are full of shit

>>61749024
Again, you haven't invalidated it

You can't just say, 'Lol I don't know that guy so I'll just ignore his evidence'

Imagine if science would work like that.

>>61748297
Least he's not shitting in the streets

>>61749050
>'Lol I don't know that guy so I'll just ignore his evidence'
You do not understand the implication of words being used, it's almost like you are an idiot.

>>61749045
Why lie?

>>61748986
>So now you're adding mods into the mix?
You really have to if you're talking about games like skyrim.

>>61748756
gamernexus
the site that if it doesnt shill for intel at least once per week it gets allergies

>>61749071
Performance could be so variable across systems and combinations of mods that it's really pointless to talk about it other than specific users.

>>61749070
I think you are misled by the idea of what actually gives you FPS in games.

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>>61749069
> it's almost like you are an idiot.

Take a guess at where you are on this picture right now

Fucking buttblasted by actual numbers that you try your hardest to ignore it.

Classic fanboy

>>61749085
>Performance could be so variable across systems and combinations of mods that it's really pointless to talk about it other than specific users.
You can install the same list of popular mods on both systems, and then test.

>>61749080
>unless you cover up AMD cpu bottlenecks you're an Intel shill
top kek

>>61749107
Look, if you are a moron, it's not my fault.

>>61748719
>7350K
Why do Intel drones insist on testing Ryzen against processors in the next price bracket up? For any given cost above $100, Ryzen is a better choice. Does a $250 Intel CPU beat a $150 Ryzen? Of course, because you're making dumb comparisons.

>>61749120
>unless you cover up Intel cpu stutters you're an AMD shill

>>61749121
Yeah you're done buddy

>>61749137
what ever helps you jerk off at night.

>>61749116
Has anyone actually done this? No, they haven't. Because it's pointless since everyone picks and chooses their own mods anyway.

POO IN THE JOO
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>>61748055
The difference between Piledriver and Ryzen is that the former had awful performance per watt, instructions per cycle and cores were paired in core modules where they shared R E S O U R C E S (that's as far as my brainlet knowledge goes but I'd assume it's cache). Ryzen suffers from none of these issues and still has an abundance of cores. You should be happy you're getting more for less as opposed to the same crap Intel shits out every year and charges a premium price for.

>>61749142
Fantastic retort

>>61749134
Well memed

>>61749156
>Has anyone actually done this? No, they haven't.
I haven't seen anyone do this recently, but I recall linustechtips doing it a long time ago just to see how well his then current setup could handle skyrim as he played it.
>Because it's pointless since everyone picks and chooses their own mods anyway.
It wouldn't be completely pointless if you used the most common mods. That would give people a better idea on how it would perform then not having mods installed.
It would be nice if reviewers like gamers nexus did something like this since they have the time, resources, and they cater to people who care about this stuff.
Maybe throw in some arma 3 yaab benchmarks, and also mods with online full server gameplay with maxed out viewing/object rendering.

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>>61748703
http://www.pcgamer.com/best-pubg-settings/

It's a lot closer than it was before the patch.

>>61749348
The 7700k still wins though

>>61747918
I want to believe, but I'm going to be using the next PC I build for gaming only.

Don't the various companies screw you on drivers if you use AMD?

>>61749348
How anyone enjoys that game is beyond me.

>>61749348
That new engine gave that game a huge boost for everyone. Now it's virtually playable on all systems.

>>61748492
You can groop them, like core 0-3 and 8 digits after that.

>>61749338
Not a meme.

>>61749427
But why would you? When you can have all the cores on the screen at the same time!

>>61749460
I honestly just want to do this too.

>>61747918
does anyone have the version of this picture with Linux Torvalds in the kiddie pool?

>>61749348
>1080p
>medium

>>61749427
Wouldn't do it for me, I absolutely would have to be able to closely monitor the exact temperatures and usage percentages of each of my 16 cores.

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>>61748492
>>61749427
>>61749460
>>61749484
>>61749524
Looks like if you try to put 32 thread usage percentages and 16 core temperature readings all on one overlay you're going to have a bad time.

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oh sorry, I accidentally 40 Watts. Is it bad?

>>61749589
That is 16 more than TR.

>>61749635
Afterburner shows threads, not cores, right? I pulled the first 16 from an 1800X video.

16 cores + 16 virtual cores + 16 temperatures

>>61749669
Oops, I forgot about temp readings.

>>61748795
>>61748903
its because of niggers like you that for gaming i dont even look at amd's offerings thanks

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>>61749779
t-thanks ..

>>61749609
If AMD drops 16 cores for $700-800 then jewtel is finished forever

>>61749822
They're already dead

>>61749803
>type in tags
>no results
fuck you

>>61748390
skylake
more like
gaylake
btfo

>>61749891
>brian working on the new intel processor, jizzlake

Intel fags
>Only clock speed counts!
>Only gaming results count!

Such is the retardation of Intel fanboys who will literally pay to take it up the ass from Intel and defend it to the hilt.

>>61747989
You Intel shills are so desperate, oope I just bought more AMD stock.

Keep it up. I for one will never buy any product with Intel Inside ever again, the hardware backdoors, shilling, and lies are too much for me to support such an ugly corporation.

>The 7700K is the best CPU for gaymen
For now...

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>>61749779
>his CPU doesn't have the cutest mascot ever
What are you even doing with your life?

>>61748111
>all replies to anything even remotely bait-ish means OP won
>even if OP gets blown out in the thread
Let me guess, the proper thing to do is to let the shills put their lies up here without any response at all right?

Fucking faggot.

>>61750017
yep 8700k is coming

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>>61747918

Wait...

You're saying Intel chips are faster BUT need better cooling, so AMD is better?

Typical AMDrone mindset, one the red team releases something AFTER Intel has released something, and that newer product ALMOST matches performance, team AMD is celebrating that Intel is over?

How does that work, exactly?

>>61750056
>>61694854

>>61749961
Here's the more accurate version

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Locked platform features don't matter!
>*NEW* Synthetic loads don't matter!
>*NEW* Burnt pins don't matter!

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>>61750044
>He thinks the 8700K is going to be better and not worse in gaming

>>61748841
Knowing dx12 bf1 is so shitty implemented but using it anyway to provide a crippled result everyone is slower than dx11 and hence "equal"

>>61750088
id honestly eat dogshit directly from the ground if 8700k stock isnt better than any amd processor with full oc at gaming

>>61750163
He was talking about 8700K being better than the 7700K in gaming, but yeah sure, I'd like to see you eat shit as well.

>with full OC
Is that with or without delidding, watercooling and expensive motherboard?

>>61750162
Considering 60% more cores, im not really impressed.

>>61750208
it could be cooled with liquid nitrogen with the best amd chip there is in the world, 8700k stock will SHIT on it gaming wise

>>61750088
>50% better single core perf
>Will be worse for gayming

Only on /g/.

>>61750231
it's more impressive that's it at the same price point and the intel had better ram.

>>61748259
>one persistent shill constantly makes anti-AMD propaganda
>(((we)))
go back to the ukraine

>>61750256
Would really like to see your source on that, aside from Intel fanboy delusion land where upping the core count also magically raises the clockspeeds, when in reality the exact opposite has occured every fucking time.

>>61750162
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>61747952
>Implying that "curvy pages" are well-read.
A woman with a curvy bible hasn't read it, and is an infidel.

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>>61747918
I have a thing for Lisa Su. Intelligent women are sexy as hell, I honestly hope that AMD rises from the dead and fucks Intel's dead corpse. 1950X BENCHMARKS WHEN? REEEEEEE

>>61750256
>muh single core
almost every game takes advantage of multiple cores now, this isn't 2001

even Dwarf Fortress is multi-threaded now.

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>>61750244
So let me get this straight. We don't know pricing, clockspeeds or release date (aside from rumors) and yet somehow you're convinced Coffee Lake is gonna totally destroy Ryzen, just like Skylake-X was supposed to have.

>>61750336
You can tell by the frequency and desperation in the shilling that they already know it will fail, but they are madly trying to up the clock rate before release so they can claim it's better.

Probably partnering with a few game companies to optimize their new SJW-infected gaymes for Intel and compile them with the Intel compiler to handicap AMD.

When will we find out that certain games will use a CPU check and intentionally handicap themselved when on AMD? I bet Bioware will do it.

>>61748099
That's why I'm not adopting this shit early. Next year I'll build a PC and it will be AMD if intel are still being kikes limiting the pcie lanes and overpricing their house fires and gimping their chips.

>>61750377
>but they are madly trying to up the clock rate before release so they can claim it's better.
Mainstream housefires? Can't wait.

>>61747918
Intel isn't going away anytime soon. 50% of their revenue next year is going to come from the fact that all the worldwide telecoms are virtualizing their infrastructure and buying Intel x86 hardware to do it.

>>61750413
Nah, I'm pretty sure they are finished and bankrupt.

What I think is interesting about Coffee Lake is finding out how many cores are too many cores for the bingbus.
When it's just four it seems perfect and the core to core latency is super low.
How many cores will it need before it starts being suboptimal.

>>61750413
Source?

>>61750413
They're buying AMD CPUs for that now schlomo. AMD has absolutely dominated the datacenter market in the last 2-3 months, completely fucking up Intel's game.

No company is going to give Intel 2x the cash for 1/2 the performance even wiht all of Intel's scary slides and powerpoints.

Just wait, and sell your Intel stock now.

>>61747918
Daily reminder to thank you based Jim Keller

>>61747918
I'll bet she has a really nice ass and a nice tight little asshole. Combine that with the fact she's kinda chubby, and I could totally fuck that ass all night as long as I don't have to look at her face.

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>>61750876
>as long as I don't have to look at her face.

>>61750901
But now that I think about it, I could probably cum on her face because her ass and asshole would make up for the butterface she has. She's the kind of woman who's so ugly you kinda turned on by the fact you're fucking something so ugly and it feels nice and dirty

>>61750503
The company I work for is partnering with intel on this. I personally don't care because of my position relative to what's going on, and the company has many other sources of income, so we'll see how this goes.

>>61750231
>AMD blows all of the Intel CPUs out of the water
>"but you needed 60% more cores to do it, that doesn't count"
Do you fuckers have a fetish for low core count or something? What, you can't jack off unless it's missionary position for the sake of promoting Coffee Lake?

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>>61751066
>What, you can't jack off unless it's missionary position for the sake of promoting Coffee Lake?
Oh god I'm dying

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>>61751066
On top of that, Intel's $2000 18 core is going to be running at a base clock of 2.6 GHz, with a probable all-core turbo of 2.9 GHz. Maybe 3.0 GHz if you're lucky. So it won't even beat the 1950X in most workloads.

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Nice thread.

lmao
someone post the pdf with all the bugs that intel cpus have

>>61751212
Which one?

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/2nd-gen-core-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/3rd-gen-core-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/4th-gen-core-family-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/desktop-mobile-5th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/desktop-6th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/7th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf

>>61751212
NO. One shall not summon the errate-dumping anon.

>>61751232
rofl
how do these things even begin to work

>>61751236
You like Xeon too?

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-5200-series-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-5300-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-5400-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-5500-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-5600-specification-update.pdf

>>61751232
stop pls

>>61751236
that was really fast desu
makes me wonder if he's real or a bot lurking on /g/ until someone triggers it

>>61751232
>>61751252
Delete these posts now.

>>61751236
>>61751252
delet

>>561750901
>that filename
I-It was a leaky pipe, I swear!

>>61751252
DELID

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>>61747989
UMA

>>61751258
>>61751271
>>61751281
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v2-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v3-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v4-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-8800-4800-2800-families-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v2-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v3-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v4-spec-update.pdf

>>61747918
When did you realise that Intel's crown has been taken
About 12 months ago when leaked benches were out.
>and they aren't getting it back any time soon?
That's a mighty lofty statement - Intel has billions to sink in R&D.
Hafia team might be in trouble though, since this loss won't be tolerated - remember what happened to the Netburst team.

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>>61751299
>>61750901

>>61751309
>>61751252
>>61751232
>all those workarounds
that shit is pure comedy gold
makes me wonder if software crashes because of bad code or bad intel cpu

>>61747918
>tfw we'll drop Ryzen 2: The Kike Kicker right into our X370 boards and outperform jewtel's offering.

Hey keep that ringbus thing going, I'm sure it'll work out for you eventually.

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>>61751140
> every >8c Intel CPU at $1k+ and only 44 PCIe lanes
> i7-7820X is probably the only relevant thing listed here, and it's stuck at 28 lanes
> 12c Threadraper 1900 non-X will be 3.2/3.8 GHz at 140 TDP and sell for $650-700

I can't remember a worse platform launch for Intel than LGA 2066. It's such a complete fucking joke.

>>61750258
Yes, considering price point, its a very good contender considering multithreaded loads, no doubt of it

>>61751066
Dipshit, its getting less than 30% with 60% more cores. If AMD wishes to compete neck to neck with intel, or even try to suprass it, AMD will need to up their single core performance.

In several situations ppl will pay more for intel due to performance. Its already good AMD forced intel to cut prices; now that AMD is getting money, its their turn to make good use of it and improve their arch.

>>61751467
>meanwhile Coffee Lake has no reason for a new socket, but will have one anyway.

>>61751650
Forget one, AMD is forcing Intel to release first U series cpus with more than 2 fucked cores. Its a very good thing, we were forced to stay on shitty core count on laptops for years if you didnt wish to pay a lot more for HQ SKUs.

Im waiting for ryzen mobile benches. It will probably top intel offerings, but we are yet to see ultra low power dies from AMD.

>>61751540
i820.
Nothing will ever top it.

>>61751711
From all perspectives, i cant seen to find a reason for intel to restrict coffee to a new chipset.
TDP is basically the same, so VRMs can deal with, excluding whoever wish to OC. Intel is probably pissing a lot of ppl that recently purchased the platform, including me, i have one 7700K on z170, its good @ 5.0, but i dont wish to purchase a new mobo just for coffee. If this is the case i might completely ignore it and go directly to TR 8-12 cores or SKX 7820x.

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>all these butthurt roastie intel shills
Lisa Su slayed the jew

>>61751776
I-is this bait?

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>>61751711
Delete this, or prove you don't work for AMD...
YOU SHILL!

>>61751776
>I got completely fucked over by company A so next time I will buy products from company A

How the fuck do retarded people like this even make it day by day without dying

>>61748055
>It's because with too many cores you use too much power and it runs hot

but an 8c/16t ryzen uses less power and runs cooler than an intel 8c/16t , heck my Ryzen 1600 uses less power than a 77k , whilst having 50% more cores and threads , its almost like AMD has better perf/watt and ipc this time around? really makes ya think

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Test-Stress-Run

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-segv-continues&num=1

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>61751862
Intel will keep doing this with mobos and chipsets till the end of the world. If AMD was in the same position, they surely would think about this too.
There is nothing in any corporation saying they need to play good with customers its just more money flowing.

There is nothing saying AMD will keep up their promisses of keeping AM4 compatible for upgrades for next 4 years, they could simply change their mind and who cares. Computer sells are lowering each year. Majority of people will upgrade around 3-4 years, or even more. From an economic perspective, there is a tiny % of buyers that will be pissed, but you think AMD or intel really care?

Im probably waiting til 2018 Q1 to see what i will do, when both HEDT are mature.

>>61748490
why is that dildo white?

privileged much?

>>61751711
Cofveve lake will have moar coars and will need moar peens.

>>61751893
>http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Test-Stress-Run
if this shit happens on Epyc or TR, its bad

>>61752141
It does.

>>61752141
Of course it happens on EPOO FAIL, 4 glued Ryzen cores, remember?

>>61752166
SOPA MACACO

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>>61751540
>I can't remember a worse platform launch for Intel than LGA 2066
>>61751729

>i820.
>Nothing will ever top it.

hold my beer, faggots.

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>>61748259

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>>61751540

>>61750876
>>61750955

Can you please talk more about her asshole? It's making me excited

>>61751650
>AMD will need to up their single core performance
Zen 2 will take care of that. Also, Threadripper can single core boost up to 4.2 GHz, which isn't bad at all for a 16 core. Intel's 12-18 cores boost up to 4.4 GHz.

>>61752220
what about the i-tanic ?

>>61752469
Sauce on this?
I know epyc is Revision 2 of the mill, but TR still one.
If XFR cand maintain +.2 on a core, chances are it can be upped on more cores.

>>61752498
iAPX 432 was even worse, believe it or not.

> release delayed by years
> super expensive, in part by needing to be 3 or 4 separate ICs
> missed clock targets + shit compiler = only 10%-20% performance of Motorola 68k in common applications
> killed off completely within 4 years

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>>61747989
JUST WAIT

>>61748903
>Another game where the difference is like 350 FPS vs 550 FPS, literally a non-issue.

That is incorrect and shows you don't understand the inherent quirks (flaws) with the source engine and Valves terrible modifications made to it.

The rate your mouse input polling is updated by the source engine is entirely tied to frame draw, even on a 60hz monitor you can easily feel the difference between running at 200 and 300 FPS.

There is an article by one of the pro teams about it and one of the guys from CloudNine guessing frame rates (Not exact FPS but which is locked higher or lower) in the 200-300 range on a 60hz monitor with 100% accuracy just because of the mouse.

>>61748964

Wow.

My 1700 gets ~1640 with a 3.8ghz overclock (Seems I lost the silicon lottery hard, I can reach 3.8ghz at 1.31v but it takes me until 1.46v to get 3.9ghz stable in Cinebench and it still crashes every time with VRay).

It cost me $364.99 CAD, whereas an i7 6900K is $1,572.19 on Newegg right now.

So it would cost 420% of the price to get a 12.5% increase in render speed.

>>61747989
>Dez reais foram depositados em sua conta.

>>61751893
It will get fixed with microcode update like every other issue, including Intel ones.

https://hothardware.com/news/critical-flaw-in-intel-skylake-and-kaby-lake-hyperthreading-discovered-requiring-bios-microcode-fix

>>61752689
This only matters for pro players though. Unless you're training to go pro, I don't see it mattering if you can still get 350 FPS (don't know what you'd get after overclock).

>>61752545
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-threadripper-1920-1950-1900,35165.html

>>61748096
>without an[y] major architecture changes
Right, they were just the first ones to make a tightly pipelined CISC processor, and among the very first to implement out-of-order execution in a single-chip microprocessor.

>>61748094
It would have been terribly fun if they had named Threadripper "Ryzen 9" instead right before Intel out the Core i9 naming.

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I hope their 7nm slams
it'll be another K series without the heavy bribery this time

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>>61747918

Then... where is the gaming benchmark?

Well, I am waiting...

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>>61747918

>>61748026
Lol it's just two CPU's on the same chip? Isn't there a lot of latency sending info between the two halves?

>>61752650
>10% perf of a 68k
TOP GUN
so all of my amigas and atari st's are 10 times faster than intels oh so nice new 32b arch , fucking lmao

>>61752689
just lock your framerate and get used to mousebehavior at that framerate desu ~

>>61753875
nope , thanks to something called "infinity fabric" there is near 0 latency and you get 90%+ scaling

>>61753875
Threadripper is like a virtual dual socket, and like dual socket you have to choose between SMP and NUMA mode...and that's going to seriously hinder its gaming performance. Even though many of us here know a 12-16 thread is questionable for gaming, AMD is still marketing to gamers and this is going to be a big issue:

http://techreport.com/review/32319/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-threadripper-1920x-and-threadripper-1900x-cpus-revealed/3

In a nutshell, because of the way Threadripper is made from two dies, there's going to be a huge memory latency impact crossing from one to the other.

>>61752772
No, more than that.

The motherboard for the 6900k will run you about $350+, and cooling another $150 or so.
I'm assuming you're at 3.8GHz on the stock cooler with your 1700 and probably using a ~$100 B350 board.

>>61754179
Intel recommends you set NUMA groupings with a single Skylake-X as well to improve performance due to the way the mesh works.

From what I've heard/gathered, the benefits to Zeppelin dies CCX and the MCMs outweigh the drawbacks of Intel's Mesh by far.

>>61754108
>Near zero latency

The fuck IF has latency penalties as bad as 100ns going for a core or L3 in other CCX. Going another die will incur in more latency.

There is no reason to deny latency, the mesh has it too, althrough smaller. This is one of the reasons loads heavily dependant on core comunication suffer penalties.

The arch is scalable, as long as your work is perfectly parallel or you treat ccxs as different Numa domains.

>>61753714
>Asian Woman as CEO = Terrible Drivers
I laughed.

>>61754384
It's ~90ns on-die and ~130ns inter-die.
Nothing really that crippling unless the workload is all about large L3 pools and these are pretty rare these days.

>>61754212
>>61754179
Both mesh and IF suffer latency penalties, but ultimately with TR/Epyc you are round tripping thru the substrate. This shouldnt pose a problem like right now, even for games, if the code or scheduler put all the threads on same die.

Having in reality 2 dies connected by substrate isnt a issue, as long as your load is parallel and dont have much cross dependency. This is why you see encoding or render performance on TR.

POWER9 also employs CCX-like design.
Cache locality is almost necessary for high core count designs.
Hell, Intel themselves recommend to split XCC chips into 4 sub-NUMA domains for optimal performance.

>>61754419
Its arguable bad, when we used to have less than half that as L3 latency on last xeons on bingbus.
It will not matter that much too, because as Zen, SKX is treating L3 as a victim cache too, so in this sense, both are converging to a similar cache approach.

Join all this new shit and wait to see if any game developer will consider upping paralelism. Its already quite bad to increase paralelism for rendering.

>>61754464
There's no other way but to embrace parallelism. Even for gayms.

>>61754464
Bingbus lacked bandwith. Latency is not everything.

>>61754498
Bandwidth wasnt entirely the issue. The problem was scheduling communication on it to avoid conflicts on the ring(s) and the increasing complexity of things as more columns of cores were added to the die.

On paper the mesh makes sense. In reality though it has its own issues compared to the rings.

>>61754620
It's always a tradeoff. Still, mesh allows for much higher core counts, see KNL. There's no other way around it.

>>61754652
If they can get the heat under control. The Netburst roadmap was suppose to go up to 10-20 ghz, but the chips ran too hot to do that.

>>61754702
Dieshrinks will do the trick I guess.

>>61754702
Maybe 10GHz without LN2 if they get to use IBM's 5nm lithography

I wonder how spooky 7nm LP is for Intel right now.

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>>61748055

>>61754420
>This shouldnt pose a problem like right now, even for games, if the code or scheduler put all the threads on same die.
Surprised AMD hasn't made their own Process Lasso like tool that does the same thing automatically.

https://youtu.be/BviSJKcD6wA

Shit theme for a shit thread.

>>61755294
Ok then let's go over OP's claims line by line
>kikeripper is only a few percent slower in single threaded tasks than intels best offerings
Not true, i7-7700K is 20% faster still.
>intels skylake-x is an absolute housefire and their only possible competition for kikeripper is clocked at like 1.6GHz
First part true, second part false but it's still really fucking low (2.6 GHz / 2.9 GHz all core)
>intel has NOTHING to compete with ryzen/kikeripper
True, even their $2000 18 core will only win in a few workloads and is still going to be too hot and too expensive to bother with
>kikeripper refresh will be a $1000 16 core CPU with single-thread performance like a 5.2GHz 7700K
If the 7nm Global Foundries node works out, yeah. To be determined.
>intel will continue to gimp their L3 cache for absolutely no reason other than to make performance worse
They're trying to do it for workstation loads and AVX-512, both of which it kind of does well, I guess. But non-workstation stuff suffers, mostly. Especially gaming is a sore spot for Skylake-X.

>>61755380
The joke is that a bunch of presumably-Indian shills mistook this thread for a designated shitposting street.

>>61750313
There is no god you petulant tit

>>61749142
Not him, but you lost this one

Are you autists forgetting the literal fucking POINT of Ryzen and AMD's return? It's literally for people like me.

Take this, were I to change CPU right now? Both Intel 1151 and AMD AM4 boards and DDR4 memory are about the same price for good options, so forget about that.

I can get a
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37701/intel-core-i3-7100
i3 7100 for $150 that is NON overclockable and gets around:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-7100+%40+3.90GHz on CPU benchmark.

Or I can go with the R3 1200 for
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39773/amd-ryzen-3-1200-processor-with-wraith-stealth
and get
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+3+1200&id=3029
WITH overclocking capability. A LOT more value for pretty much the same price give or take a few dollarydoos.

I'm not gonna claim Intel is finished but for average gaymers or people who just want a comfy PC they can use every day without being slow office-grade garbage or overcompensating dudebro housefires it's good that AMD has clawed its way out of the grave.

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>>61756761
It's nice that AMD can get big wins at the low, middle and high ends all at the same time.

>>61756345
*tips fedora*

>>61756828
Call me an autist but I find it more impressive what you can get out of the lowest sensible prices rather than whatever the Core i9 8 million XxX420pussyslayerXxX69 can do. I've been awaiting the R3 for ages since the i3 just seems pants on head retarded. I was even considering a Pentium Gxxx just because it seemed more interesting than the boring, sensible more expensive choices. In the end, R3 kicked it's ass and I'm glad I waited.

>>61747989
Hey how's your paycheck?

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>>61756884
G4560 competition is the A12-9800 (Yes it's OCable). Raven Ridge APUs will probably be even more expensive than the Ryzen 3's because they're quad cores that have integrated GPUs.

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>>61756345
I hate modernist commie faggots

>>61750333
>even Dwarf Fortress is multi-threaded now.

WHAT

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN

last time I played it took like five minutes to create the world

>>61750333
>>61757208
>even Dwarf Fortress is multi-threaded now.
no it's not

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what did LTT mean by this?

>>61747989
>Cookie-cutter reply

If ever there were 100% proof that paid shills are on /g/. It was the post-Ryzen fallout.

>>61757827
The numbers are rounded, graphs use exact values.

>>61748096
>7nm
>16 dies per socket
wewww

why do AMD products literally always have more raw computing power than the competitors but consistently underperform (((nvidia))) and (((intel))) on (((commercial))) software?

>>61757867
How does the cpu render a fraction of a frame? Wouldn't that look ugly and broken on the screen.

>>61757958
You know exactly why.

>>61750256
On the Kaby Lake launch, the 6700k was out-performing the 7700k in several games.

>>61747989
Gr8 b8 m8

>>61752049
people seem to forget once athlon 64 blew up they started jewing prices pretty hard

having said that you can't poo the su
fuck intel

>>61757958
Shhhhh keep your mouth shut, goy.

>>61750162
that's a pretty bad benchmark because threadripper had only 2666mhz ram and we do know that it can be even 30% faster on 3200mhz ram

>>61751232
>No Fix
>No Fix
>No Fix
>No Fix
>No Fix
that's some quality intel right there

>shilling in general is not welcomed by any board
>except /g/ and AMD
explain

>>61758162
muh underdog

>>61758139
Everything looks fine to me

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>>61757958
Remember when nvidia paid the 3dmark devs to write two versions of the benchmark software that crippled and cards performance? That's why.

>>61758162
Because Intel is so shitty and jewish they make AMD look like saints in comparison, that's why.

>>61758162
Marketers were here since pre-Ryzen launch.

>>61758162
shilling for amd is actually the best thing for a intel fanboy to do because it forces intel to do better cpus

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>>61747989


you know the intel shills are desperate when they start FUDDing their own hardware

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>lisa su will never be your grandmother

>>61758265
>better cpus
Nope, have more housefires.

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>>61758911
>no Lisa Su doujins

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>>61747989
>>61748055
>>61748099
>>61748259

Astroturfer please go

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>>61748665
>>61748719
>>61748756
>>61748806
>>61748825
>>61748903

July 2017, newest AGESA/BIOS, recent game patches and 3200MHz DDR4

https://www.techspot.com/review/1450-core-i7-vs-ryzen-5-hexa-core/page9.html

>>61747918
>>61748026
>>61748060

>refresh 16 core
Threadripper 2 will probably have more than 16 cores since Skylake-X has 18. Unless of course Ryzen 2 will crush Intel in single thread so more cores won't be necessary.
With more money from CPUs AMD will able to crush Nvidia too. Vega isn't that great probably because they had to allocate a majority of their limited available funds to Ryzen.

>>61748060
That's EPYC's problem not Thradripper's and can probably be fixed with microcode/Linux update.

>>61748099
Nice try shill but threadripper has different socket and chipset.

>>61759928
>AMDrone being this delusional

>>61760130
t. poo in the joo

>>61759949
i think one or 2 distros already fixed it in an update , but dont quote me on that i read it on 4chan