AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 May Almost 100 MH/s in Ethereum

THERE'S NO STOP IN THE MINING TRAIN

WHEN WILL IT END

I can't even ughhh

>>61716819
>100 mh/s for 300w~
Get right the fuck out. That would be incredible.

AIB partners must be thrilled thinking about the incoming RMAs

>>61716840
>WHEN WILL IT END
we've seen the peak prices, it hasn't even gotten close to being what it was
it'll slowly go down from here, as it always does

and then in two years it will be time again

Well, at least AMD will have some succes with this card I guess. I was planning to buy 2 but not so sure with this power consumption.

INFLATED PRICES!
LOW AVAILABILITY!
GAYMERS IN TEARS!
AMD BANKRUPT AND FINISHED!

>>61716831
out of date, and I get 25+ with a 480

>>61716819
>muh vega bad for minig
Truly shows that this board is sub 90 iq talking out of their ass at all times.

>>61716896
Whats the power consumption?

>>61716984
But it's all about the memory latency

>compute beast
>totally unrivaled mining performance
>cut down Vega56 competes neck and neck with the 1080 in DX12 titles
>it will continually get better as AMD sorts drivers out for the new arch

Outstanding.

>>61717307
Jesus Christ...you are retarded or a shill

>>61716995
>Whats the power consumption?
Upwards of 400watts with even a small overclock.

>>61717307
>cut down Vega56 competes neck and neck with the 1080 in DX12 titles
Correction
>cut down Vega56 competes neck and neck with a 1070 in dx12 titles and falls short in everything else.

>>61717407
t. brazilian engineer

>>61717402
Cry more.

>>61717407
The alleged leaked figures put it way ahead of the 1070. It was some 20% faster in a couple titles, neck and neck with the 1080.

>>61717307
Shill harder. All it will do is make prices explode. Enjoy paying 500+ for the 56 and 600+ for the 64 at the very least. Knowing miner faggots they will also be the ones preordering the shit out of them, so enjoy that out of stock too.

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>>61717407
source on the 400 watts?
pic related: vega frontier consumption. rx vega is expected to consume less, since the tdp is lower.

>>61717417
>cry more
I'm mad because I don't give a fucking shit of mining

>>61717307
>>61717417
Those "leaked" benchmarks were fake as fuck.

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>>61717451
Not him but he probably talk about liquid-cooled

I don't care, lets just hope the prices stay normal

>>61717589
unless AMD makes dedicated mining ASICS based on Vega, this is not going to happen

>>61717654
The merchants will decide, not AMD

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>>61717685

>>61717685
supply and demand will decide, not the merchants.

>>61716819
Well we at least know it was designed for mining

>>61717654
They delayed them so they could make more, so there is some hope.

https://youtu.be/A1vLL1O9iQo?t=49s

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>hash / cryptocurrencies

TOP KEK, AYYMD TELLS YOU GAYMERS TO FUCK OFF

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>>61717797
>All the gamers who were swearing up and down that Vega is trash that isn't worth buying are now crying that they won't be able to buy it due to miners

I want to permanently castrate all /v/idiots.

>>61717810
Cryptoniggers are cancer, idiot

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>>61717868
So do you want it, or not? Because it sounds like you weren't going to buy it anyway, faggot.

>>61716861
How so?

>>61717741
>we know miners will buy them


THEY KNOW

Funny how Vega will end up being AMD's most profitable architecture after Terascale contrary to all the shitposting last week.

>>61716819
FUCK, couldn't they wait until the pre ordering starts

>>61716819
Oh but this is great news.
Snag one or two cards, sell them to some fucktard miner for a profit. proceed to buy a 1080 ti

A certain forum is absolutely livid about this, even though they'd never buy Vega.

>>61718084
Neogaf?

>>61718079
You mean pick up a 1080 ti and have enough left over for a 1180 ti

>>61718114
or hookers, pretty much

>>61717910
because miners run them 24/7 at 100% and cards die fast

>>61717906
Jesus Christ, you still dont get it, this is a bad news...

I dont want pre order it before the real test and benchs

>>61718133
I'd rather go for a proper meal than piss money on something worthless like that.

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>>61717451
>>61717528


DELET DIS

>>61718179
SOPA?

>>61718147
Ah, I was thinking that they'd all be dumping their 480 and 580 stock to move up to vega.

>>61718212
How many fucking Vegas do you think AMD made? Shit will be out of stock in a day even most miners will be left with a few units.

>>61718179
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/filename/amdloo.png/

So this is the power of sopa de macaco.

Kill cryptoniggers
Take their vegas
...
Profit

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>AMD will push Intel to advance their shit
>but you'll have to buy "enthusiast" Nvidia shit to play regular vidya

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>>61716819
>Vega is late as fuck, power-hungry, can't compete at the very top end, and will be impossible for gamers to purchase due to ethfags

I want out of this fucking timeline.

MUH GAYMS


THANK YOU BASED RAJA

>>61718335
Just buy nVidia.
They need your money.

craze died down and only the hopeful and top financially well-off will buy this before trying to hock off the shit they have

>>61718335
This truly is, the darkest timeline.

Is AMD officially dead for consumers?

Or has that downturn killed crypto mining for the next couple of years?

The first ones are just the blower cards right? I'm going to just wait for the after market cards anyway

This is like some next level sandbagging.

Release the card, sell thousands to miners, by the time it's available for regular humans the drivers might finally be ready and hopefully there will be some cheap second hand well cared for vegas.

Everyone wins apart from "gaymers"

>>61718294
It's like a chronicle of retardation.

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>>61716819

>currytech

>>61718826
You're literally retarded.
>miners
>some cheap second hand well cared for vegas
enjoy your brick

>by the time it's available for regular humans
by that time everyone but miners would have nvidia
seriosly drink bleach retard

>>61716819
hahahahahaa
bravo amd

>>61717407
i tought it was 1.2 gigowat

>>61717711
the merchant always decides you stupid goyim

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will a 400watt psu be enough for vega56 that has a 210watt tdp? rest of my pc doesnt take more than 100watts even on load

>>61718248
People are underestimating this. HBM2 has low yields. Dont be surprised if Vega 56 is sold for $1500

>>61719972
Price is $400

>>61718296
Dont police chekxc powergrid for high usage because indoor weed lamps suck up loads of energy at a constant rate? We just have to convince ATF that cryptoniggers are growing then theyll get their shit raided and either shot dead or have everything seized.

>>61719972
uma delicia

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>>61719965
i guess my 400watt psu will be enough. coolermaster's calculator says 422watt psu is enough for the 1080ti that has a 250watt tdp and the system peaks at 350watt. vega56 has a 210watt tdp so 400 watt must be more than enough. thanks /g/

>>61720058
The only reason to buy a Vega 56(aftermarket) is to get that 25% OC over stock, which would even make a OCd 1080 sweat.

So no, that PSU is only enough if you run at lolstock.

>>61720058
do you even have necessary pcie pins for vega?

>>61720101
Vega 56 is 8+6

>>61720120
and 400watt psu have it? I doubt it.

>>61718147
They also run then underclocked and undervolted. Cards running at safe temps doesnt wear off. Only thing that can be a problem is the cooler fans wich you can easily clean or switch for new ones.

>>61720130
There are quality 400W PSUs out there, some have, some don't.

>>61720137
and I'm pretty sure, that guy doesn't have a quality one.

>>61720080
How the hell he will push 25% OC on any card?

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>>61720130
shit. im not sure about this...
well i guess ill buy me a 1050ti for now

>>61716861
Can't they just say that voids the warrenty?

>>61720169
you can look inside the case right now.

>>61720163
On that PSU he won't, but Vega 56 is really not worth it unless it's OCd to the moon.

Unless it's 20% faster than a 1070 at stock (1380-1400mhz average) at least.

now we know why AMD took so long to release Vega

they were mining with them the entire time

>>61720224
19D Chess

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>>61716819
Rx580 gets 29 MH at 70~90w depending on model

Each card cost minimum $250, that's $750 for 90MH at 250w.

If Vega gets 100MH for $499 at 300w (before undervolting) don't expect the card to be in stock, ever. It's also a flagship card so reselling will be tremendously easier.


I wonder what changes they made though. Frontier edition only got 50MH with no room for improvement. Doesn't all Vega models use HBM?

>>61720296
>I wonder what changes they made though
drivers.

>>61720296
>I wonder what changes they made though
This shit was disabled in the drivers. >>61717797

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>>61720190
god damn it i only have a 6 that has pci-e written on it. the rest are 4s or something else entirely. now im not sure i can even have a 1050ti. gotta check

>>61720320
>running anything but low range shit on fucking Diablotek-tier PSU


Literally kill yourself before the PSU does it for you

>>61720314
>>61720315
When's the release date for the $499 model? I want to replace all my cards with it.

>>61720338
Why not the $400 one?

Also August 14.
10 days.
Good luck actually getting one in the next half year.

>>61720338
14th of august.

>>61720320
lmao you should stick to 750 ti tier GPUs bro.

>>61720350
>>61720352
Nice.

My cs degree finally paying off. I made a bot earlier this year to auto buy gpus.

>>61719972
I can already pre-order the 64 Limited Edition for 1300/1500 NZD

>>61720320
I don't want to start flaming this guy but goddamn
>All those giant fans
>All that empty space
>Fans are clearly hooked right into the PSU so 100% speed at all times
What are you even doing with your life.

>>61720373
he doesn't know shit about computers, what did you expect?

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>>61720373
fans are connected to mobo and the case is from my brother who bought it in 2004.
>>61720356
>>61720337
eat shit suckers. see pic related

>>61716819
Well that explains why they are only releasing as bundles with monitor and cpu coupons.

>>61720433
What's that got to do with your Diablotek-tier housefire?

>>61716819
>I'm done with Vega. I'm done.

t. Assblasted monkey who can't afford the intial $10k investment into a mining farm

>>61720488
400watt shit psu is as safe as 300 watt psu if you dont use all of it. 1050ti wont breach 200watt

>>61720497
Even after electricity that is ~$8 a day at current prices. So over $2500 a year per card. These will be gone fast.

>>61716819
Making mining easier devalues the currency, you dumb cunts. Glad this'll take attention away from mid-range cards though.

>>61720554
>Glad this'll take attention away from mid-range cards though.

>Vega sells out for the rest of the year
>GEE I WONDER WHAT'S NEXT IN LINE

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>>61720567
Everything.

>>61720538
I had to replace my sis' PSU AND her 550ti because the damn Ultra PSU developed a burning smell and killed her GPU while playing Overwatch.

I wasn't the one who installed and recommended that housefire PSU btw.

>>61720314
>AMD makes no changes to improve graphics performance
>Meanwhile poojet driver team tireless working to improve mining performance

From a business perspective everything is okay. As long as the crypto cuckrrency stays afloat.
Its almost like AMD is throwing baits for cucks to mine

>>61716831
My R9 390 gets 32MH/s.


Fucking laughin at New card cucks!

>>61720554
Not really.

>>61720296
>I wonder what changes they made though. Frontier edition only got 50MH with no room for improvement.
It's almost like half the uarch features were disabled in drivers or something. Who could have anticipated such a thing?!

>>61720133
It is harmful, trust me. It's not just that the card is running 100% all of the time it's also moisture in the air. I have seen ex mining cards and they make nothing. Seen 390s sell for £40 because they squealed and the solder joints had turned white from going dry. All that heat cooks the flux and makes it dry out and harden etc. The black PCB had gone white too.

So yeah, it buggers hardware. Well, not so much the hardware but the components. When Nvidia and AMD design VRMs they do not design them to run at 100% all of the time. Even when gaming your GPU gets a few breaks from cut scenes/loading etc.

>tfw I have to buy two power supply's to power my computer
>one for everything else and a 1000w for my vega card

>>61720784
MY SPECIAL FEATURRREEEEES

>>61720951
turned out special features was mining

>>61720951
Even with all the evidence the drivers weren't finished, you still spam this shit in every fucking thread. Kill yourself.

>>61720966
Thank you for linking this
It's nice to see so many other people talking about special features

Poojeet

>>61721002
>shitpost
>ignore evidence
>continue shitposting

/g/.

>>61717797
AMD can't sell their trash gpus to gamers, so amdshills pretend like it's the consumer's fault.
The no I'm mad at you angle is some bitch ass shit amd.

>>61721057
>polaris was trash despite doing better in modern DX12/Vulkan games and having better price/performance

This is why AMD gave up on you faggots.

>>61716860
It'll sell like hotcakes it that's actually true. I tried find the actual power draw in the article but they don't actually say - so we can only guess from TDP. 100 mh/s at 300W would be amazing.

>>61716861
That's would be their own fault for making garbage cards. They can put big real solid heatsinks on them and double bearing fans instead those garbage fans that go bad after a month and not get RMAs or sell garbage and get RMAs.

If your car breaks down after 3 months then there's no point in trying to argue that you should have kept it in your garage and not used it to drive around when you demand your money back.

>>61717307
>Outstanding
What, exactly is outstanding?

> All AMD RX cards are sold out
> VEGA cards are announced
> turns out VEGA cards are great for mining and on-par with nvidia cards for gaming
> Miners by every single VEGA GPU on the market
> Nvidia GPUs that have already gone up in price because they currently have a monopoly on the gaming market go further up in price
> You have to buy a year old nvidia GPU for more than it cost a year ago because you decided to wait for VEGA

I'd hardly call that "outstanding".

>>61721079
>Implying amdtards upgrade their shitboxes more than once a decade.
They just shitpost.

>>61716819
>wccftech
literally fake news

>>61721056
>y-you're just ignoring my rock solid evidence
>j-just you wait it's gonna get nvidiots this time
>s-stop laughing
>s-shitposting

How the hell does Vega64 get 100mh if Vega FE only got 50mh?

As far as we know the Vega64 is slightly slower than the FE, comes with half the memory, HBM is """supposedly""" bad for mining, and the driver features we know to be disabled are for rendering, not compute.

So compute performance should be same as Vega FE, not TWICE as high.

>>61721111
You are raw human garbage.

>>61721149
because it's fake news
wccftech takes rumors and publishes them as fact

>>61717797
who the fuck do you think is buying up all of Nvidia's GPUs? regular fucking gayman consumers don't cause assfracture-size price spikes

>>61721072
What games? Ashes of the singularity?
Is polaris still the top performer, or did it drop down a tier, or two by the time games, and features were made available like with every garbage amd gpu?

>>61721154
/r/amd is more your speed. You can circlejerk about amd in peace there.

>>61717440
Miners will be "preordering"? Like in a store?

Big mining operations located remote places where electricity is cheap like Iceland actually rent their own Boeing airplanes have cards flown in.

http://www.pcgamer.com/cryptocurrency-miners-are-renting-boeing-747s-to-ship-graphics-cards/

> "how many GPUs do you need?"
> "enough to fill an airplane"

>>61717451
It's the power consumption at full load while slightly underclocked and undervolted that matters.

>>61717741
hehe "part of the reason it took so long to launch VEGA was that we decided it was more profitable to keep the GPUs to ourselves and mine ETH and we're only now dumping them on the public because ETH has entered a bear-market"

>>61721072
amd cards have artifacts in rpcs3 vulkan render while nvidia don't
amd can't write a proper driver even if their designated streets are on the line

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>>61721154
Awe is somewon upset

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>>61721175
I'm probably wasting my time even posting this since you seem like a diehard shill that's constantly saying "hurr durr AMD is trash AMD is garbage", but here it is anyway.

>>61721202
>cherry picking

Laughable. Absolutely the state of AMD.

>>61721199
>rpcs3
>literal pre-alpha emulator

Here's my complete lack of giving a shit for you.

I hear they are going to have vegas packages with games for a premium that miners won't want to buy as much

>>61721215
>27 games
>cherrypicking

Yep. I was wasting my time. Just fuck off forever, you're an enormous steaming pile of shit.

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>>61716819
>underwhelming card for gaming
>can sell it off to miners instead

This is good for my $AMD.

Polaris is superior if you choose this api, and this game, and these settings, and thus monitor.
Oh did I say superior? You misheard me. I meant that you can't tell the difference at all, and it's not like I play games with an fps counter on at all, all I know is that it feels smoother.
I mean I don't even use it for childish games, because I'm a pro creative type.

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>>61721216
Meanwhile nvidia users have no problems even on pre alpha software.

>>61720951
>>61721002
>>61721057
>>61721097
>>61721111
>>61721175
>>61721176
>>61721199
>>61721200
>>61721215
>>61721249
Kill yourself.

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>>61721249
I think you got him.

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>>61721262
ohohoh
Never change AMD, you provide so much entertainment

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>>61721262

How long is this etherium price spike gonna last?

>>61721320
Until amd releases a new gpu architecture that does well in whatever new future crypto currency that is developed right before it's release.

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>tfw you realize vega was delayed so long so AMD could use the cards to mine

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>>61716831
>Fury X, 28.4
My non-X gets 32~, whoever benched these probably ran every miner out of the box

>>61721300
You want some butthurt, huh? How about this. https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/6936-ai-asics-exposed.html

These mass market AI ASICs are going to trash NVidia's Teslas. Google already switched to their own custom ASICs, these ones will be available to everyone.

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/building-ai-chip-saved-google-building-dozen-new-data-centers/

Your favorite company (to jerk off to) has this stupid meme HUEG DIE overpriced bullshit and it's about to get roflstomped.

Fuck you.

>>61721526
why are you so mad?

>>61721526
>some other company is fucking your rival for you
Man AMD are truly cucked

there are lots of very angry children in this thread

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I fucking hope it's good for mining, gaming kiddies can fuck right off and it'll line AMDs pockets like crazy so they can BTFO Intel even harder in the future

>>61720684
if power wasn't 38c per kw/hr here I'd probably mine too.

>>61721526
>plebbit spacing
also
>Your favorite company
amdfag projecting right there
You're so anaflustered defending some faceless corporation, it's hilarious.

>>61721643
But not nVidia.

>>61721526
>>61721673
>if you don't support all the shit X pumps out you are with Y
AMDrones will just never understand that there are people who exist who don't give a shit about nvidia or AMD and literally just think it's funny to shitpost about failing products and buy whatever they want

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>>61721643
BUT I WANT TO HELP AMD BTFO INTEL TOO

>>61721675
I don't care about Nvidia because they actually make good products without jewing the shit out of them like Intel does

>>61721748
Oh shit you just triggered the storm buddy

>>61716819
You AMD fanboys should be so proud that AMD is doing well financially. After all, that's what all of your arguments boil down to at the end of the day.

>>61721526
>These mass market AI ASICs are going to trash NVidia's Teslas.
I hope that amd releases new hardware that thrashes existing old hardware too, but it's amd so you just don't know.
>Google already switched to their own custom ASICs,
Google had two choices get 1 continue to get jewed by nvidia, or buy.amd.
tfw they literally decided that amd is too shit to consider, and just made thier own custom hardware.
>these ones will be available to everyone.
But purchased by no one with half a brain.

>>61721754
I mean they are jews but not nearly to the same extent Intel is

>>61716819
>amd card is good at mining shit
>people talking about crypocurrencies on /g/
>massive price hikes on cards

Man, it's like 2013/14 and fiji all over again.

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>>61721780
>I hope that amd releases new hardware that thrashes existing old hardware too, but it's amd so you just don't know.

That happened, though. I can imagine you missed it because it wasn't MUH GAYMES, though.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vega-workstations-wx9100-pro-ssg,35128.html

>The Vega architecture's HBCC means the SSG memory can function more seamlessly, allowing the solid state storage to be seen and used as local memory for loading extremely large data sets. The version of the card that AMD announced has 2TB of SSG memory on it

https://www facebook com/jarred.land/videos/10154878406240415/

>Look out Nvidia... it's pretty clear AMD has returned to the party in a very big way, and it is very clear that they are quite done fucking around. #AMD #AMDSSG #RADEON

>>61721780
>Google had two choices get 1 continue to get jewed by nvidia, or buy.amd.
AMD didn't even have anything to do with it, nice job trying to shoehorn them into your unrelenting "AMD sux lol" narrative. Kill yourself.

>But purchased by no one with half a brain.
So Google is retarded for going with ASICs over Nvidia's AI meme bullshit and saving themselves untold amounts of money? You're dumber than shit.

>>61721867
This looks like a card that amd fucked up on, and we're just waiting to find out where.

This is such bullshit.

The Vega that's out on the market can't even hit 30MH/s and that's more powerful in every way.

>>61721913
It's a workstation GPU. You won't find out jack shit because you'll forget you ever saw it two seconds from now because it isn't MUH VIDYA GAEMS.

>>61721867
>unironically linking to kikebook
Is this what a shill post looks like?

>>61721980
Of course you don't know who that guy is. Why would you? He doesn't have anything to do with MEIN VIDYO GYRMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Company

>>61721904
>AMD didn't even have anything to do with it,
Because they had nothing to offer at the tine, and still don't.
>nice job trying to shoehorn them into your unrelenting "AMD sux lol" narrative. Kill yourself.
>Nvidias competition had nothing to offer.
>doesn't suck dick at all

>So Google is retarded for going with ASICs over Nvidia's AI meme bullshit and saving themselves untold amounts of money?
Google didn't even look at amd though, because they knew that they could do better than whatever abortion amd could concoct.
>You're dumber than shit.
You're too close to this raja von shitinstreet.

>>61721997
>post has nothing to do with AMD
>still try to make it about AMD

I've seen dogshit with more sentience.

They gimped it for gaymurs and built it for miners, any company with a brain would do it.

>>61722010
>I've seen dogshit with more sentience.
I'm sure that you're well versed in recognizing different types of shit, pajeet. There's no need to boast about it.

>>61716819
>>61719271
>rumors of vega costing $1000 float around
>ends up costing half that
>miners buy out all stock and prices inflate to $1000 anyway

t-thanks ...

>>61722037
Kill yourself.

>>61721932
>It's a workstation GPU.
Is this going to burn down the entire system before, or after useable drivers release?
How long will it take RED to find out that they just lost all that potential money in constant down time, and other shit tier uniqely amd related workstation gpu issues?

>>61721469
probably the only way to have a standard benchmark is to run it as is. It gives an idea of the bear minimum rather than what is possible.

>>61722055
>How long will it take RED to find out that they just lost all that potential money in constant down time, and other shit tier uniqely amd related workstation gpu issues?
As soon as they get their FUDge factory up and running. Seems you've already got yours.

>>61722010
>I've seen dogshit with more sentience.
Trying this hard to save his brand. Neck yourself pajeet the 20 cents isn't worth it.

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>>61722054

>>61722080
>trying this desperately to deflect away from NVidia's AI meme shit getting BTFO

Leather jacket man isn't going to give you a free Titan Xp. Give it up.

>>61722098
Kill yourself.

Might as well cede the consumer market to Nvidia now. AMD is done.

>>61722077
>Trusting AMD workstations with your business needs.
A thousand keks upon us all.

>>61722122
Is this the new "AMD CPUs randomly die on you don't trust buy quality Intel"?

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>>61722114

>>61722105
>Leather jacket man isn't going to give you a free Titan Xp. Give it up.
Tfw I'm a red team + member, and I get free cpus to meme.

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>>61722055
>>61722122

>>61722137
Nah it's an I owned amd "workstation" cards, and now I know better. They actually cought on fire and it was a dissapointing setback.

>>61722188
Phew, for a moment there, I thought you said they CAUGHT on fire.

Really though, how long ago was this?

>>61716861
even returns within the 30 day window

maybe be my chance for a mid tower 1070 SLI

>>61722209
It was during the fans stuck at 20% bug, and amd was a huge mess at that point. Really bad time to buy amd back then.

>>61717711
If supply and demand reaches parity prices could fall even. Hopefully 14nm lpp is producing good yields in large quantities by now.

>>61718152
You snooze you lose.

So glad I already pre-ordered 5 Vega56 and 5 Vega64 from my local retailer.

>>61720320
Absolutely disgusting.

>>61721867
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>>61722631
>*incredibly fine print*
>not actually 2TB, 16gb memory with an SSD attached

>>61722661
1 6 G B + 2 T B
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>>61722679
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Is there any hashcat benchmark available?

>>61722701
go to bed Thiago, it's getting late

>>61722714
card is not out, it's all shitposting about rumors
can't even trust amd slides for a ballpark at this point

FineMine™

http://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/retail_staff_reports_high_levels_of_mining_performance_on_amd_s_rx_vega/1

>>61721259
>Emulator of a system using a nvidia gpu and most likely more heavily focused on nvidia gpus happens to run better on nvidia gpus.

You don't say.. How's that openGL memory leak treating you on cemu?

>>61720320
I think you should worry more about upgrading your entire PC m8. That looks like absolute garbage and will be CPU bound anyways.

If this mining craze continues then everyone will just buy a fucking console.

I've just found an RX 580 for a 'reasonable' price of £359 for sale in the UK. Only 1 left.

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>>61724202
>£359
>reasonable price
anon...

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>>61723916
delete this

Think mining will affect Vega much? as far as i know the major coins have had a major downturn and are less profitable.

I've noticed that some stores even have RX 580s in stock this week, if for a ridiculous premium.

>>61720684
My 390 might be the best money I've ever spent on a video card. It just keeps fighting.

>>61724202
OCUK and Scan have 580s and 570s in stock on certain models. But they are charging £350-550 for them.

Hopefully the price will normalise by next month as the mining gold rush cools off.

is there a way to convince pai that we need to drop paveways on miner farms and force miners to bay the billions in capital gains taxes they owe?

>>61716819
>AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 May Almost 100 MH/s in Ethereum
>HBM2 average temp is 95C
Hmmm.

>>61721797
Yeah when you compare novideos to (g)lue inside they are like virgin jews in comparison to Chad jews.

>>61717810
Those are all nvidiots, vega 56 looks like a great card.

>>61716819
plot twist
the reason for the late release was because amd was mining eth with all the vega they produced to "certificate" them while getting insane money
and now they gonna resell them as new

i call dibs in the future if this actually happened

just fuck my shit up

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ahh the ol' AMD hype-lie(you are here)disappoint strategy

>>61724169
Honestly consoles aren't a bad deal as long as you always buy/sell used games and dont buy $60 digital copies on release and shit

>>61720173
>using the product voids warranty

>>61716861
this is so scummy, but what else would you expect from people perpetuating pyramid scheme to get rich

Why the fuck does ethereum even have value?
Anybody who needsto buy drugs can use buttcoin anyway, why eould they use another cryptocurrency?

>>61725476
You can just convert it to bitcoin

>>61725491
You can trade it for bitcoin
The question is why do people buy it?

>hey lets trade my shit for your gold
>SURE!

I see the value of buttcoin in drugs and money laundering, but why would another system be needed when the first one is just fine?

THANK YOU BASED MINERS

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>>61716819
didn't vega fe only get like 30Mhps?
I thought drivers couldn't improve performance by 30%?????
in other words: 1080ti, prepare you're angus xD

>>61725476
people used to call it scam coins
just create any sort of crypto coin and people will just give it value for whatever reason

>>61725476
I dunno but I know bitcoin isnt really all that anonymous, once you associate a certain wallet with someone you can see all the transactions I think.

So unless one of these alternatives protects privacy more I dont see the use

>>61725545
This translates into 60 mh/s if done with half precision operations.


Thats why.

>>61717797
Gamers told AMD to fuck off years ago.

>>61725562
I doubt that's the case, pretty sure the hashing algorithm would need to be designed for fp16 to begin with

>>61724330
>normalise by next month
Are you kidding me?

ETH was accumulated for months below $1, then more accumulation happened between $7 and $15 for almost a year. Then the big boys moved the price up to $404 and now it's sitting at $223.

Distribution won't be over in a month. ETH isn't going to crash. Count on it. Rather, it will grind up and down with lower highs and lower lows for a year or even longer.

>>61725585
480 sold quite well eve before all this scam craze

>>61725562
so volta with fp8 would kill in mining ?

>>61725615
cryptocurrency is like trying to sell stock of bankrupt company to masses, only a select few will profit
may as well trade on a whim or buy a lottery ticket, chances to win are higher


>>61725620
>volta with fp8
what?

>>61725476
>>61725532
Why do you shitpost about things you have no idea about?

>>61725636
Tensor core not fp8
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-tensor-core-tesla-v100,34384.html

The new mixed-precision cores can deliver up to 120 Tensor TFLOPS for both training and inference applications. According to Nvidia, V100’s Tensor Cores can provide 12x the performance of FP32 operations on the previous P100 accelerator, as well as 6x the performance of P100’s FP16 operations. The Tesla V100 comes with 640 Tensor Cores (eight for each SM).

>>61725605
I hope it is so.
Tgen it all will be bogus crap.
Another hope is that AMD doesnt enable rapid packed math at launch

All those rumors revolve around fp16, if fp16 doesnt work for eth its good.

>>61725666
google got x20 faster tensor core asics
also tensor is only for the bigger dies tesla edition, consumer cards won't get it

>>61725680
there is just special hash instruction set in vega, fp16 is a different thing

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>>61725636
I sold 4.2 ethereum 4 hours ago for $224 each and 4 minutes ago my buy order at 221 got filled.

I effectively made $17.2 USD by doing nothing.

>>61725726
did you count in electrical bill in your estimation?

>>61725691
Maybe they will enable it just to stop people buying amd. similar to new titan magic driver

>>61725767
I reached roi months ago between the price skyrocketing and reselling gpus. It's printing free money as I reply to your post.

>>61725801
so you got in early and keep exploiting newcomers? good to know I was right

>>61725816
Looks like the only thing I'm exploiting are your feelings lmao

>>61725406
How exactly is a crypto currency a pyramid scheme? It's just digital dollars that get "printed" automatically and some have a finite amount, some don't.

>>61716819
>4 times the performance of 580

Great, it means I'll finally be able to get me a 580 as miners switch over.

>>61725832
you are making free money, good for you
do not try to rope in people in it when it's already late to do the same

>>61725851
>A pyramid scheme is a business model that recruits members via a promise of payments or services for enrolling others into the scheme, rather than supplying investments or sale of products or services.

it's not dollar-tomato-dollar
it's dollar-dollar-dollar

>>61725885
A currency can't be a pyramid scheme. It's not social security.

>>61716819
No, please no. I wanted to buy Vega 56.

>WAIT FOR VEGA
>It's mediocre
>EXCEPT FOR MINING

RIP vega

The Steam hardware survey is going to make AMD fucking cry. They'll sell millions of the fucking things but only 4 people will be using them for gaming.

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>>61725885
>>>>already late to do the same

>why didn't I buy at $1
>why didn't I buy at $100
>wby didn't I buy at $500
>why didn't I buy at $1000
>why didn't I buy at $3000 (Today)

Ethereum will reach $1000 next year.

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>>61716819
I honestly hope Vega is another r9 290.
Everyone thought it was shit at release, yet now its one of the best long lasting cards to have been released.

The 780ti was released to beat it yet now its left in the dust.

>>61725960
You won't be buying a vega. Just get a 1080. This upsets me too, dude. I've been buying AMD / ATi cards exclusively to support the smaller guy, and on my next upgrade I'm going to go nvidia just because I have no choice now.
Nvidia has a monopoly on GPUs.

>>61725904
Crypto"currency" is not actual currency it's a promise not supported by anything except people wasting electricity=>pyramid.
Dollar is currency because it has fulfilled promise of value.
Any pyramid promises you value if you buy representation of value working only inside pyramid. If people stop launder money through it - it's dead.

>>61726013
The real redpill is realizing that money doesn't need anything to "back" it up.

Crypto currency is essentially FIAT money that isn't controlled or printed by a central bank.

>>61726011
>You won't be buying a vega. Just get a 1080.
No, fuck off. The 1080 has always been a retarded buy. Why would I buy Nvidia anyways when they refuse to adopt freesync? Their gameworks cancer is also a big reason why they should fuck off.

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>>61726007
I'm thinking Vega 56 is the next coming of the 290. Hawaii has aged incredibly well even if its power consumption isn't the best.
Does anyone have any confirmation about SR-IOV? I'm sure the Pro cards have it, but what about FE and RX?

>>61726005

Take your price speculations over to /nu-biz/

>>61726013
Nobody is going to update this dude about smart contracts and blockchain turing machines?

>>61726030
Then don't upgrade.
Sucks for me since I'm going to have a freesync monitor and an nvidia card

>>61726023
that's anarchist way of thinking
sadly it doesn't work in modern economy

I'm all for going "credits" and removing all the money from the world, but it won't work

>>61716831
This is wrong, my energy efficiency bios'd 480 reaches 26, usually 23 though.

>>61716831
390x poorfag masterrace checking in

>>61717307
Whoever told you that Vega56 is neck in neck with a 1080 is as retarded as you are probably.

The 64 variant barely reaches the 1080 performance level and above all that, you need it OC'd to get the same DX11 performance. The DX12 performance however is decent enough.

>>61716819
>something something switch to POS
>something something the network will adjust to increased overall hashrate

idk tho

>>61717528
Nigga, if that's true. AMD fucked the shit up. FOUR HUNDREAD AND FIFTY WATTS

My nibba, AMD was cucked day zero. We all saw it with the perfoormance in games, but that? THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY SAD.

>>61726448
>The 64 variant barely reaches the 1080 performance level
Proofs?

>>61726448
You missed those leaked benchmarks, where the 56 crushes the 1070, we don't know if it's true or not though. A couple of weeks will tell.

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Gee, I wonder if a memory bandwidth bottlenecked hashing rate would improve if memory bandwidth suddenly increased on RX Vega for some reason?

>>61725885

You're not seeing the full picture mate. It's an entirely different economy.

And plus would places like Newegg accept it if it were all bollocks?

>>61726539
>15% better
>crushes
The typical on a 1070 is like 12-15%. It's nothing

>>61722701
If you overclock it to hell on watercooling sure.
>>61725244
>Vega FE
Kill yourself, 1070 performance spammer. https://rbt.asia/g/search/image/CN1XAwbX9EoQurjKzmQnhw/
>>61727389
You're going to get the "secret features" spammer to return. We got 1070 performance spammer, secret features spammer, 400 watts spammer. Lots of wastes of space that shit up every possible conversation about this GPU.

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>>61727663
I can't help it, this puzzle is way too interesting to me. This rumour would appear to support one of the rumoured explanations for why Vega appears to have a severe memory bandwidth regression compared to Fiji.

I will die laughing if that rumour ends up being correct, incidentally.

>>61727663
whats up with you wanting everyone to kill themselves? you have hostility issues bro

>>61727781
It's only reserved for the dumbest serial shitposters that ignore all evidence and pollute literally every thread with the same garbage without end. See: IMG_xxxx, BR glueeater, etc.

>>61727793
you have to remember that a real person is behind the screen bro. how would you feel if one of us actually killed ourselves? not good I'd hope

>>61725989
Why should AMD care?

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>>61727811
Personally I'd be thrilled if one of the morons who spent several hours a day on here shitting up every thread on a subject actually killed themselves. Even better if they all did.

Intelcucks on suicide watch.

>>61727832
You ever seen that episode of spongebob where the squid goes to live with everyone like himself and then he ends up being really bored? thats you

>>61727509
In gayming 1080 is about 15% faster than 1070.

>>61720133
this
>>61720785
fuck off with your delirium, fucking minelet.

>>61727875
I don't want agreement, I wan't actual arguments rather than mindless shitposting repeated in every thread on the same subject every day for months at a time.

During the Ryzen launch that IMG_XXXX.jpg faggot was literally spamming ~50 posts a thread shitposting using the exact same images and comments, all day every day for WEEKS.

>>61727926
well then convince AMD to release benchmarks and driver info if you want actual discussion. You don't think we are tired of the "just wait ;)" ad nauseaum and the overblown hype.

>>61727951
if they had a working driver they would have released already
also amd releasing benches? yeah who would have believed them even if they are correct

>>61726023
>Crypto currency is essentially FIAT money that isn't controlled or printed by a central bank.
And a currency that the central bank won't allow to get a foothold in the greater society. Crypto is like baseball cards. They have no real except to collectors.

>>61718147
>because miners run them 24/7 at 100% and cards die fast

It's not a mechanical device you dipshit. Well, the fan is but that's easily replaceable.

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>>61728140

>They have no real except to collectors.
>Everyone collects currency

What did he mean by this. . .

>>61728140
Real money is like baseball cards too.

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>>61720635
Using grenades that kinda look like psu there's a burning smell and have to be replaced. You brought this on yourself.

tfw swedish and russian governments approved bitcoin for their central bank transfers

tfw denmark and probably neaderlands are next

>>61728140
The whole idea of fiat currency is that there is nothing (or very little) physically backing it. Fiat currencies like Bitcoin or the Dollar have value because people perceive it to have value.

People value Bitcoin as a currency for the exchange of goods / services, therefore it has value.

The real problem with Crypocurrencies IMO is that they are extremely volatile and investing in one is basically speculation. Most governments also aren't fond of currencies that they can't control.

>Have money to mine
>Live in socialist European nation where electricity costs 6x as much as in Murrica
>Impossible to break even

No Vega for me...

>>61718079
>Snag one or two cards
Good luck with that

For anyone considering not pre-ordering and buying after you have seen the benchmarks I would advise against it. Just pre-order and if you don't like the benchmarks cancel/send it back or sell it on for profit to miners.

>>61730629
>buying reference cards
Time to stop

What the status on mining specific GPUs?

NVidea and AMD shuld launch them and them update drivers to make mining impossible on regular GPUs

I plan on buying a few. Keeping maybe one for myself and selling the others on for profit.

>>61730644
I'm seriously considering a V56 reference because I know there will be water blocks available. EK also said that they are releasing a TR water block. While I currently have a Ryzen 7 1700x I'm considering getting an 8c threadripper and grabbing a bigger one later. Use my current Ryzen as a small server to replace my FX-8350 server.