It's over AMD's margins are finished

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>61622996
Since everyone's busy shitposting about Vega, I'd also personally get a 16 core with 3.0GHz clocks simply because they're way more energy efficient than the 3.6GHz ones, and that's plenty of fucking cores either way.

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INTEL IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

>>61622996
I was actually hoping they would do this since 8 cores is still more than good enough to utilize the X399 platform.

>>61622996
They still have crazy high margins on this no matter how low they price it.

As far as I can tell their only really low margin product right now is the 1200/1300X.

the 8 core will probably run at 4.0/4.1 at stock.

>>61623111
Don't worry, the launch is tomorrow.
>>61623194
Nah, it's probably 3.6 base 3.7 allcore boost.

REEE I WANT A HIGH CLOCK 4 or 6 core NOT THIS

>>61622996
margins aren't that important if you can sell 100% of silicon that entered the fab

>>61623223
>i want anudda presshot
Kys.

>>61623223
GloFo 7nm will bring 5Ghz+ clocks

There is a range AMD didn't attacked intel yet on?
"By the way, we're going back in time and releasing our own 4 bit CPU to compete with the 4004, and it will be half of the price"

>>61623222
>Nah, it's probably 3.6 base 3.7 allcore boost.
If the TDP is high then there's no reason to keep the same allcore boost as the 1800X

>>61623249
it's bullshit but I want to believe you

>>61623269
UNCORE
IS
NOT
FUCKING
FREE
Especially for Zen.
>>61623271
You can't even read GloFo's own whitepapers?

It's all irrelevant. Real men buy Intel regardless.

>>61623326
Jews and puffs aren't men, they're filth.

>>61623326
Reminder to report shitposters.

>>61622996
how many PCI-E lanes will the 8c/16t version have? 64?

>>61623412
No 120

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>>61622996
>>61623117
STOP BUYING RYZEN

>>61623412
Yes, 64, just like any other Threadripper.

>>61623425
But Intel can't compete.
No, investing in "diversity" is not how you compete in semicon.

>>61623271
glofo took ibm's leapfrogging basicly..
and what ibm touches is gold as hell
so yeah 5ghz casually will be there

>>61622996
16 cores for $700-800?

>>61623425
Stop using those bullshit plastic cooler holders.

>>61623446
I'm detecting $800

Nobody.. NOBODY!!! Will pay $1000 for a AMD poo CPU, NOBODY WILL!

>>61623499
Do you own $INTC? Why do you care if you don't?

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>>61623499

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>>61623499

>>61623499
Mods really don't care about this shithole of a board anymore, do they?

>>61623499
[chants hebrew curses externally while holding a $1000 dollar bill]

>>61622996
I HATE AMD SO DAMN MUCH

>>61623149
8 cores with quad channel ram and all those pcie lanes would be useful to someone at least (eg: feeding gpus or doing silly things with nvme arrays)

YD1900A9U8SAE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900 8c/16t
YD190XA8U8SAE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900x 8c/16t
YD1920A9UC9AE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920 12c/24t
YD192XA8UC9AE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12c/24t
YD1950A9UGAAE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950 16c/32 t
YD195XA8UGAAE – AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16c/32t
Oy Vey!

>>61624782
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1970X 24c/48t
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1990X 32c/64t
OY DELET

This can't be real.. Who needs multiple 16 core chips......?

>>61625394
It's just binning.

>>61625504
Nobody need 16 slowass cores dude!

>>61623263
>There is a range AMD didn't attacked intel yet on?
We're still waiting for laptops, but no doubt intel will be slaughtered there as well.

>>61625536
They are only doing exactly what they did with their Ryzen lineup. Non-X = Cheaper, can be OCed to X levels most of the time.

>>61625587
It's still hilarious to me that the best competitor AMD has for the G4560, if you need something that has an iGPU, is the A12-9800. A $100 Bulldozer APU.

Kikes literally hyperventilating, with these non-X CPUs there is literally not a single Skylake-X SKU worth a glance.

>>61625675
excavator. Not that it's a big difference. And they go down to 50 bucks BR chips with the A6 9500. Yeah, their line up in the low budget market isn't particulary strong right now. It's understandable though, they had to bring the zen die out first. With such limited ressources it's a wonder that raven ridge is coming at all.

>>61625675
Desktop Zen APUs are supposedly planed for Q1 2018 and laptop APUs Q4 2017

>>61625744

This kills the intel

>>61625727
There are already some videos showing it's capable of 40-60 FPS at 1080p in some games, which is really impressive for such a dirt cheap APU.

>buying glued crap

>>61625766
even in BF1. That's the 100 bucks A12 9800 though

>>61625794
what glue are you talking about here?
The TIM glue or IF glue?

>>61622996
>400w
LMAO

>>61623326
>>61623499
>>61625794
>>61625871
Kill yourself.

>>61625871
Did someone do a FPU load on the 12 core Skylake?

>>61625932
skylake x can't really go above ~250W because that's the point at which the mainboard VRMs start to melt themself. Also toothpaste TIM doesn't allow to cool the lower end chips taht aren't soldered. Seems like AMD and board manufacturers learned from intels disaster because the X399 boards got really beefy VRM cooling. Or it's from experience gathered with the FX9590 kek

>>61623271
zen is basically limited by the low power 14nm process characteristics right now, where it's most efficient point is at ~3GHz and the hard limit is ~4GHz
7nm will up that limit to ~5GHz meaning the process won't be a bottleneck. I imagine the zen architecture itself could sit comfortably >4.5GHz

>>61623499
>SHREEEEEEEEEEE intensifies

>>61625982
that IBM will apparently use the same process for their POWER behemoths will probably help too

>>61622996
So will they continue to use these threadripper motherboards in the future like they will do for ryzen?

>>61626063
Of course.

>>61623332
>puffs
Dumb phoneposter

>>61622996
The market for X399 parts is businesses and professionals. These people aren't going to overclock their parts, both because they don't want to spend the time to do so and because they want their parts to last as long as possible.

>>61626159
Yeah, the processor will last 20 years instead of 30, what a pity.

>>61626159
>don't want to spend the time to do so
that's why companies like ASUS offer their one click overclock shit

>last as long as possible.
pretty sure people who spend thousands of dollars on a workstation won't want to sit with something outdated for too long.

>>61622996
Will single thread performance be improved on threadripper?

>thinkthink.png

>>61626174
Extreme overclocks can kill a processor much faster than that.

>>61626232
I do SMB networking. Most of the businesses I work for don't even start thinking about replacing their servers until at least 5-6 years after they buy them, and some wait longer. As long as it keeps doing what they bought it for they have no reason to replace it.

>>61626291
>servers
we aren't talking about servers
EPYC is for servers
Threadripper is a workstation CPU

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>>61622996
I-I-I've got em this time!

>>61626414
I said X399 parts, which includes EPYC, and that's really where the high margins are. If they're actually putting four dies on each TR chip they're actually very low margin parts. I've actually sold some CAD workstations too and no OC was asked for or offered.

>>61623499
I sure as hell won't.
> not when 12c 1920 non-X will probably sell for only $650 and still hit near the same clocks as X models.

>>61626491
No, no you didn't say that

>>61626600
Yes I did.

>>61626159

>>61623117
1600x master-race here.

>>61626491
>X399 parts, which includes EPYC
no it does not
X399 is a chipset used in TR4 socket motherboards, exclusive to threadripper
EPYC uses SP3 socket and does not require a chipset.

>>61626439
JEWTEL EKEKEK

P E P E
E P E P
P E P E
E P E P

A M D
M D A
D A M

>>61626698
Aren't SP3 and TR4 the same thing? I didn't know about the chipset part though, news to me.

I really want Zen apus in laptops, I need to buy a new one soon

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This triggers the poos

>>61626771
>Aren't SP3 and TR4 the same thing?
they have the same pin count - but no, AMD confirmed EPYC is not compatible with TR4.
Makes sense considering that it contains only half the I/O of SP3.
>I didn't know about the chipset part though, news to me.
yeah, EPYC has an integrated chipset. No real need for an external one considering all the I/O it has on chip.

>>61626835
>terminator
so cool....

>>61626848
t-thanks

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>>61626835
>l-look mom i OCed my CPU
>y-yeah it looks cool huh ..?
>A-amd BTFO .. yeah, AMD sucks

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>>61626900
>triggered

>>61626925
>serial anti-AMD shitposter
Sad!

https://rbt.asia/g/search/image/BVDdCzXiQI6BopjrdUWOgg/

>>61626925
How is working at intel?

>>61627001
A way better than being a designated

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>>61626835

Get back to me when you can do this on your 6700k.

>>61627062
Do what? be shit at gaming?

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>>61627062

>wasting power and time for seti@home

Pathetic!

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>>61627062
>3.8 ghz at 1,38v
Is this supposed to be impressive?

>>61627209
Far less impressive than drawing 400watts at 1.2V

>>61627062
>seti@home
are you searching for aliens shitting on the street

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>>61627280

Gonna cash in my gold pressed latinum for a harem.

>>61627279
sickburn

>>61622996
When are we going to see 32/64 without housefire?

>>61627375
Maybe on 7nm.

>>61627375
>>61627385
Zen will cap out at 2x6c dies, for no reason other than memory bandwidth constraints, so no 32c TRs in the next 4 years sadly.

If you really want, you could just go for an underclocked/undervolted 1S Epyc, though that will of course waste a few Watts on IF links.

>>61627119
>tenor.gif
you're the samefag that keeps posting these pieces of shit, you dumb phoneposter

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>>61627549

>phoneposter

Pathetic again! Just KYS.

>>61628015
>huenigger thinking he's superior

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>>61623508
>>61623545
>>61623555
>>61623569
>>61623572
>>61625918
>>61626004
>>61626578
Congratulations, you all fell for some of the laziest and most obvious bait I've seen in a long time

>>61628015
You're at least a consistently bad shitposter.

https://rbt.asia/g/search/filename/tenor.gif/

>>61628143

Just Prove if you can, mongol.

>>61622996
Like the OP title alludes to, this seems so stupid to me.

If you're spending $250+ on a X399 motherboard, why do you need cheaper SKUs than $800?
I guess there are markets for lower power usage. Some people might get X399 for home servers. But they could have underclocked for that.

All it seems like this'll do is hurt AMD's margins.

>>61628527
Margins are useless without revenue.

>>61628527
It seems they want all the servers, not just enterprise but hobo decommissioned eBay sourced 2P Westmere/Bulldozer builds too

>>61628527
Zepplin dies are so cheap that AMD could sell them for practically anything and still be making huge margins.

>>61628527
you don't understand how absurd the margins are on those things, they'd probably make 200~300% profit on a hypothetical $600 8c/16t threadripper

>>61623283
They say up to 5Ghz not 5Ghz+.

>>61628651
It states "5Ghz operation". Which means it'll hit 5ghz on overdrive voltage since 14nm LPP is stated for 3ghz operation and hits exactly that at it's overdrive voltage.

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>>61622996
Remember when I told everyone that there wouldn't be a 10 or 14 core model, but there would be an 8 core 64PCIe lane model?

>>61628586
>>61628604
No, I do understand. But no reason why they shouldn't keep them higher like Intel without going full anti-consumer like Intel.
I know that the entire package (dies, substrate, solder, IHS) is well under $100. But I think they should have just used top dies for these for top end SKUs to get all the margins they can.

Because their cheap to make doesn't matter to the consumer when their only "competition" costs twice as much and is worse.

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>>61628681
Found it and you're right.

>>61628981
Putting up a big sign that says "We're not assholes" goes a long way when the only option for a long time was a huge asshole.

>kick her right in the pcie lanes

Intel's artifical segementation is going to bite in in the buttocks so hard.

>>61629402
What even is the plan for X299 mobos?
Are there gonna be multiple tiers, or just one where it's understand the number of working slots depends on the processor?

I can't believe how stupid Intel is either way.

>>61630398
Can't wait for someone to put one of the 18 core monsters in one of the first X299 motherboards and watch the ensuing VRM meltdown.

>>61630573
No seriously, are 99% of X299 mobos only gonna suppport 28 lanes or whatever?
You'd have to be pants on head retarded to buy one of the 16L Kaby Lake Xs, and the 44L $1k+ HCC models will be ultra-niche even if they don't stay vaporware.

TR has rendered them practically worthless, so they could just paper launch them to save face and never try to sell any, and nobody would probably even notice.

>>61630637
Some motherboards don't support Kaby Lake X at all.

>>61624727
Might be a bit moot now (since DDR4), but Denuvo runs faster(/ doesn't kill game FPS so much) on Quad channel setups.

>>61630656
Top fucking kek.
People will still be laughing at this shit 10 years from now.
It's easily the worst thing they've launched since Pentium 4 and Itanic.

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>>61630673
>Cucknuvo

>>61630398

>What even is the plan for X299 mobos?

Roll 3D6 - that is the number of cores, pcie lanes and ram speed you support. At this point X299 is so lolrandumb you might as well as /tg/ for tech support. The short answer is outside of the clockspeed advantage (and the inherent performance that it brings) X299 is inferior to threadripper on every front.

tl;dr bingmesh is years behind infinity fabric (ebin :D :D :D) in scalability because the roots of the Core architecture are a single core laptop chip that Intel has molested for over a decade to gain a technlogical lead along with legal fuckery. 2020 might be another x86 revolutioin but in the here and now Intel is going to bleed money in the face of AMD explicitly redesigning their Uarch to be scalable in a way Core was never intended to.

>>61630902
Intel's new uarch is rumored to be a streamlining of x86 where they jettison all the old bits of the ISA that are a pain to deal with.

Sounds good in theory until you realize how close that was to the general Itanium vs. Athlon/Opteron scenario.

>>61630902
>At this point X299 is so lolrandumb you might as well as /tg/ for tech support.
I put on my robe and wizard hat

>>61622996
lol anyone who buy's anything AMD is literally willingly eating shit.

Even their GPU's are a nightmare, driver crashing is routine
Can't imagine using AMD as a CPU in the current year.

I once fell for the meme and never again.

>>61631668
They're just going to replace whatever they remove with AVX-2048

So new products dropping this Monday?

Still cant tell what the fuck this thread is about

>>61631744
Here's your (You)'s

>>61631692

I like your style.

>>61631754
>Using pooware
Back to >>>/reddit/

>>61631834
That hungry, eh?

>>61629352
You could have bought an 8350 but u didnt tho

Intel Fagboys REK't.. This will be year 2000 all over again.. All hail the new King. And its Ayy Em Dee!

>>61622996
Fuck Intel. This shilling makes you Intel kikes seem so desperate and lame.

>>61623499
You kikes are in for an ass fucking.

>>61623499
Threadripper is my next upgrade.

>>61623117
>because the most relevant benchmark is for sure video re-encoding.

I will literally buy a 1950X system, and 32GB or more RAM for ffmpeg and VMs.

>>61635231
Unless it doesn't support Win8, then it can fuck off.

>>61626847
the main difference is that sp3 has a fully enabled psp bios TR4 doesnt
if you put an epyc on a tr4 it will most surely work but with less features

>>61624782
Still waiting for the 32c/64t 1942h.

>>61628133
But I got trips so my reply was worth it.

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>>61622996
FUCK AMD FUCK LISA SU FUCK JIM KELLER FUCK RYZEN FUCK INFINITY FABRIC

Would unironically buy a zen macbook

>>61623508
>$INTC
more like $TINC

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>>61637856

>>61623425
I would if Intel would not spend 90% of the profits on pushing SJW agenda and bullshit. Vote with your wallet. I say this all the time and

>>61639400

>I say this all the time and

....never do like 99% of the consumer whores that inhabit /g/, OCN and such like. Its the same old thing "fuck sake AMD why can't you be competitive! I want to buy Intel/Nvidia stuff cheaper!".

These are the same people that claim ryzen is shit even if it outperforms the equivalent Intel product precisely because they will never, ever buy anything AMD makes. Yes I am aware of the hypocrisy but thats how fanboys roll.

>>61639461
And I do that 100% of the time. (silly hotkeys)
If I had money for the 7700K there would be no questions which to pick, but I am aiming for the i5 range - and after seeing all this SJW bullshit, I will just roll with AMD.
I mean I bought an AMD GPU recently (7870) and it was the worst card I used in the past decade. So I will never ever buy an AMD GPU again, but I did give them a chance.
(And oh boy, is the driver shit true about them...)

So if we remove the iGPU, they are quite the same. Heck, the Ryzen even outperforms the Intel counterpart because of the moar cores. I will only lose a minimal amount of single thread performance by going Ryzen, I will live anon.

>>61639461
Amd is the store brand of processors. Sometimes the store brand is better (publix HEB Myer costco)
But people are afraid to look poor or thrifty.
Its the reason why gas guzzlers sell with record fuel prices.
People want to be swanky and boojee

>>61639539
No one cares or would know what processor you have in your autism box

>>61639539
Nobody validates their socioeconomic status through fucking CPUs you twat.

>>61639591
Says you
you chowder head

>>61639591
He's worried that /g/ will call him poor.

>>61639774
No i'm not I buy amd all the time and nvidia and powervr.
I was just trying to explain the phenomenon of people that will never ever buy a superior product that isnt their favorite brand

>>61639611
Says me, I'm talking about humans, not fucking 13 year old children with mommy's credit card.

>>61640146
What was so wrong about my statement? some people trust brands and don't think about it.
Also calling me thirteen is childish, only insecure 19 yearold think calling someone 13 is a devastating insult

>>61640182
Good reading comprehension, I never said you were 13, I said that only 13 years old validate their existence through CPUs

Yes there are likely adults that fit that as well, but that's not even worth calling statistical error

>>61622996

What's the difference between the 8c/16thread Threadripper and the Ryzen 7's?

There is none, this is just a scheme to get rid of the Threadrippers that failed and don't work on all cores.

>>61640222
>What's the difference between the 8c/16thread Threadripper and the Ryzen 7's?

Lanes and memory channels.

>>61639507
>bought and AMD GPU recently (7870)
>recently (7870)
>recently
That card is over 5 years old. How is this a valid "gave them a chance".

I actually just got a GTX 580 from a friend. This card ruins like shit, never buying Nvidia again. I gave then a chance tho.

>>61640206
Not statistically significant? are you kidding me?
People buy overprice brand named shit over cheaper better alternatives all the time.
You are autistic, not everyone thinks like you
you pseudo intellectual

>>61640290
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUYING A FAMILIAR BRAND AND LIVING FOR A BRAND YOU FUCKING RETARDED FUCKSTICK NIGGER SHIT SPIC

LEARN TO FUCKING READ YOU FUCKING PIECE OF DUNG


YES I MAD

>>61640306
Lol dude why u mad

>>61640306
whats the difference then?
They still manifest exactly the same.
Also it is only /g/ why do you haft to be mad?
Calm down can't you argue without being a hothead?

>>61640345
Difference is that one might actually change if something better comes around, not immediately but through exposure.

While the other will vehemently refuse at any and all costs.
Like BMW owners

>>61640363
Alright then, you will notice how you just made up my side of the argument for me.
I was saying one thing and you were arguing with a man made of straw sitting next to me

>>61640416
Yeah but your mother liked my dick so there

>>61640427
hahahah oh man where do you think this is xbox live?
Also good for her, she deserves a little happiness.
emphasis on little

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>>61622996
What the fuck. Do they want to suck me dry? I wanted to go with the 1700. EPYC has 16 cores at $650, can we expect a 16 core at 700 american dollarinos?

>>61640451
Don't talk like that to your mother.

>>61640517
HEDT is expensive even when it's AMD doing it. At least they give you the option.

>>61640551
There's always the option of i5 7640, it's what's best for consumers, you don't see amd releasing superior quad cores on x399!

>>61641279
I'm sure the one guy who bought one is the world's most satisfied customer.

I'm so Fucking excited for this. One of my biggest and only complaints with ryzen was the pcie connectivity, I'll gladly take a slightly more expensive platform for greater connectivity options
Bear in mind, as an over the top build you could run 2 high end gpu in pass through, 1 host adapter, 2 nvme m.2 in raid, a fiber nic, and a raid card all at full speed, all on the same system
Beyond that, really interested to see the impact quad channel memory has on bandwidth and performance with infinity fabric, a 8 core to 8 core comparison would be neat. Plus the platform itself is truly high end and enthusiast, much moreso than x299 imo
The future is now boys

>>61631744
Nobody's buying it Schlomo, Intel's fucked no matter how many times you post these lies.

>>61631744
Never had any issues with my AMD APU laptops, even using dual graphics mode.

>>61640222
Kill yourself.

>>61641455
That's not a rabbi, it's Pajeet, just look at the grammar