Why are hard drive prices suddenly plummeting? There have been

>>61569019
its because of bitcoins increase in difficulty and the miners getting wrecked.

>>61569036
this affects the storage industry how??

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>>61569036
Gotta store all them blockchains man.

>>61569019
Probably because high capacity SSD's are becoming affordable, and low capacity SSD's are now cheap.
The only way to make HDD's attractive today is to make them cheap.
I recently bought a 2TB 3.5" internal because I needed more storage, but fuck getting them for anything else.

I'm right on the edge of getting an NVMe drive for my OS, and putting my current SATA3 M.2 SSD into an external USB-C enclosure. External SSD storage is the shit.

>>61569066
How long before SSDs are chaper per GB than HHDs?

I assume it will be something like what happened with LCD/Plasma TVs vs. CRT where the price of the new tech nosedives after 10 or so years.

>>61569107
Probably ;
- 2 years for 500GB SSD's to be cheaper than 500GB drives,
- 3 years for 1TB
- 4 years for 2-4TB

HDD's have a minimum cost because you can't make it cheaper than the metal enclosure + platter + electronics, whereas the minimum cost for SSD's is almost negligible. Your biggest costs in an SSD are the controller, and storage chips, both of which can get extremely cheap with new production technologies.

>>61569019
Because only fag losers give the slightest fuck about their external storage devices.

>>61569191
This. Real alphas use cloud storage.

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>>61569036

what

>>61569191
You can crack this baby open and have a perfectly fine Red WD internal HDD for nearly half the price buck-o
>Because only fag losers give the slightest fuck about their external storage devices.
Only an idiot would pass on such a bargain

>>61569019

>tfw any 8TB drive in Europe (Sweden) is around 300 USD

>>61569107
Depends on if the SSD manufacturers will keep borderline-colluding or not. SSD prices don't constantly fall, they go up and down, and go down in bursts.

hard drives do the same, but not as bad. a lot of the recent drops are temporary sales though.

>>61569160
No way, you're way too optimistic. a 500GB hdd is ~$35 and a 500GB ssd is ~150 right now. since 2013 ssd prices has roughly halved. Assuming similar drops a 500GB ssd should be cheaper than a HDD in 7-8 years.

As for when ssds are cheaper than HDDs in their GB/$ sweet spots, not for the foreseeable future. Maybe in 15-20 years.

>>61569036
How does this affect the storage industry?
I only heard about GPU price skyrocketing.

SSD's won't get cheaper. There is a shortage of NAND as it is. The cartels have a lot of money invested in their fabs that needs recouping. By building new fabs to keep up with demand they need to recoup those costs. Don't expect 4TB SSD's for under $500 anytime soon.

>>61569019
>8TB
>$159.99
Fucking burgerstan. I'd give all my shekels in a heartbeat for that

How likely am I to get a WD red if I buy one of those Seagate Baackup Plus 8TB drives in the UK?

>>61569994
0%, you'll probably get a ST8000DM001.

Don't SDD's wear out over time? At what point does a HDD get old enough to where it's likely to break?

>>61570075
Current SSD's will probably outlast spinning media. A recent test on a Samsung 850 Pro sustained 9 petabytes before it failed. WAAAAY over what it is rated for.

>>61570075
I have HDD's that are decades old and were used 24/7 in an industrial setting in cold, damp, dusty places that still work perfectly. HDD's dying is a total fucking meme probably invented by companies to make you buy more.

time to mine mysterium

>>61570128
What about m2 ssd's?

>>61570205
? It's the same components in a different shape.

>>61570205
it's just a different interface. the NAND is what's expensive

>>61569019
A recent survey of a selection of SSDs at various price points showed that, for all practical purposes the only real differentiator was speed.
Slow, cheap SSDs were likely to last almost as long as their faster and more expensive brothers.
Given that even the slow SSDs were far faster than spinning rust drives the trade-off in speed is minimal.
Also, the latency wasn't much worse. Certainly much better than conventional drives.
The take out was that unless you had to have the best available (epeenor) you might as well save some money and get your SSD earlier rather than later.

>>61569019
>280€ here
Meh

bought one of those.. got a 256mb cache their red instead of the 128mb cache Chinese drives

>>61570940
did you get it from a store or have it shipped?

>>61570128
i dunno i've had SSDs die of weird stuff unrelated to # of write cycles

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>>61569019
thinking of buying this since its on sale on amazon tacoland

>>61570161
1/10 for effort

>>61569019
Real talk, is it actually possible that a Western Digital usb hard drive like this will actually contain a WD 3.5" hard drive that I can use in my machine?

I have a 3tb archival drive running out of space.

>>61569959
The SSD I bought in December saw a 25% price hike. I guess this will take atleast another 6 months to go cool down.

>>61569019
What ever price fixing agreement HDD manufacturers had in place just ended. So it's now a free for all race to the bottom.

>>61571863
It's pretty much guaranteed.

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>>61569019
idk

maybe a drought in thailand?

>>61569066
>high capacity SSD's are becoming affordable, and low capacity SSD's are now cheap

SSDs have, quite literally, doubled in price over the last six months. 120 GB SSDs are selling today for ~$55-$60, which is what 256 GB SSDs were selling for in January. I bought a 512 GB SSD for $95 over Christmas, just after the Thanksgiving sales ended. The identical SSD model now sells for $170. I bought a pair of 128 GB SSDs just before Thanksgiving for $29.99 each; they are now $60 per.

Very curious as to which alternate universe (you) live in where SSDs are dropping in price from last Fall ... or even this past January. Provide links. I could be very interested. Would like to pick up a couple 256 GB SSDs for about $50 right now.

>>61571863
some people are actually reporting getting WD Red drives inside

>>61569959
Toshiba would beg to differ
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/toshiba-xg5-nvme-bics-nand-ssd,5099.html?utm_source=notification
>Toshiba originally said to expect BiCS in Q3 2017, essentially now, but many analysts predicted we wouldn't see volume production until early 2018. Most of the speculation stems from Toshiba's financial troubles that are leading to the sale, in whole or in part, of its flash manufacturing outfit. Analyst predictions are valuable to us, but only in context. Both Toshiba and partner Western Digital have announced products with third generation 3D NAND, but neither company has products in retail. We can now say that BiCS-powered SSDs are coming and we won't have to wait until 2018.
>MyDigitalDiscount has 20,000 XG3 SSDs available in three capacities. The XG3 512GB currently sells for just $200 (Mydigitaldiscount.com) and $219.99 (Amazon). There's a good chance we will see the XG5 sell as a gray market product at some point, as well.

>>61569019
What would you even do with 8 TERABYTES of space?

>>61572570
>What would you even do with 8 TERABYTES of space?
your mom

>>61572534
will this lower prices or just increase capacities?

>>61572570
Store lots of porn

>>61572570
Just bought two for my NAS. My desktop has two 3 TB drives and two SSDs that sum to a TB. So having the potential for a full backup and file history is nice. I only have 3 TB total but why buy two 4 TB when 8 is this cheap?

>>61569622
500 GB SSD price spiked up recently along with rest of the ram/gpu stocks.

It was going ~100 just before the price increase.

>>61572534
Why would Toshiba make this cheaper?

They probably will just offer larger capacities at the same cost, won't they?

>>61572570
this is not for people who totally rely on Spotify/Netflix/Hulu or all their music, movies, and TV shows.

If anyone is filling these with non-video/audio/image data, you've got my respect for whatever the fuck you are doing.

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I just bought two of these to replace 3 3TB WD Red drives I currently have. Two of them are for media and one is being used for backups and archives. I'll hopefully be using one 8tb drive for media and the other for backups.

And if I really wanted to I could dban and sell my 3tb reds for ~$60-70 on ebay, recouping the cost of one of the 8tb drives.

fugg I was dumb and thought there'd be 2 4tb drives inside. opened that shit up and saw one 8tb. i was gonna split the drives with someone. I sure as hell can't use 8tb myself. returning even though it's one hell of a deal

>>61572729
8 TB of information but you won't put it in RAID 1?

>>61572729
>buying used hdds at all

>>61572825
was the drive inside red or was it blue?

>>61572826
> 50% overhead
Why wouldn't you use RAID5 or 6 or a similar level of redundancy in cloud chunks?

>>61572891
8tb red. got the Thailand 256mb cache one too

>>61572826
I need the 16tb of space. RAID is best option of course but I don't have the money for 4 drives.

>>61572832
To be fair, my drives are actually very healthy and are only slightly over a year old. Very little persistent use seeing as they weren't used as OS drives.

My possible future ebay buyers will be getting a decent deal.

>>61572921
you lucky bastard. mine is blue, but I'm just using it for media storage, so it's no big deal

>>61572921
I'm a bit of a dunderhead. Why is the extra cache better for the HDD?

>>61572950
HDD read or write pretty fast IF it's sequentially.

Now, if it gets ten 2MB writes (like text revision autosave on your IDE and random stuff), it's nice if that can stay in the cache for a few seconds rather than interrupt your 100MB/s reads ten times.

Just broadly speaking. Can't explain the exact details on how the rules exactly work for reads and writes, I don't know them.

>>61573001
I'll take it as a "for dummies" rundown of HDD cache. Thanks.

>>61569340
Your pathetic government has to pay for unemployed muzzies to rape your women somehow Sven

>>61573013
Sure. Most cache related things are only leading to a not immense probability of better performance anyhow - you "might" occasionally get faster reads / writes for something if you had 64MB rather than 16MB of cache.

Basically, at home, if you have performance problems, you'll throw a SSD at the problem anyhow.

>>61570161
Industrial drives are nice, and still fail. May just be luck for you. I've seen 3 commercial drives die.

>>61572894
Could you explain this more and what the disadvantage to RAID 1 is? What if the NAS just has two slots?

>>61572534
>512GB
>just $200

I bought my 500GB 840 evo for 200€ years ago

>>61569994
>WD red if I buy one of those Seagate
Do you have brain issues?

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>>61571890
Agree anon I bought a Samsung 850 500GB last year and its gone up nearly 50% since then in price. Doesn't feel like SSDs will be cheaper any time soon?

>>61571993
This brings back memories

>>61571863
90% if the time it's just a normal drive hooked up to a USB adapter, though occasionally the controller board is already USB.

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>>61569066
Don't. NVMe doesn't make boot times any faster. They're designed for scratch disks.

t. Samsung 950 Pro owner, compared boot times to my dad's SanDisk SATA drive and the difference was a solid 2 or 3 seconds.

>>61572570
I have just over 20tb raw space and 10ish useable. It's for plex, backing up all my PCs, laptops etc, personal cloud, porn storage, 2tb or so of RAW files. Shit adds up.

>>61572570
that's a great capacity for collectors. i have over 300GB of one style of music alone.

>>61573042
This made me laugh. Sad, but true.

>>61569305
until the cloud isn't available, or the company evaporates, then real alphas curl up on the floor and cry because they can no longer get to their MPL videos.

>>61569019
>cloud usage is up
>lowering prices
>sales-to-diversify

>>61575090
only soccer moms use the cloud

>>61576483
>only soccer moms use my butt
kek

>>61576497
how sweet it would be if /g/ started automatically substituting butt for cloud

>>61576497
I wouldnt mind a hot soccer mom giving me some butt play.

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>>61572570
>he doesn't keep back ups of everything he downloads

>>61569305
>Letting a (((company))) store and control access to your own data
>Not cucked

>>61569036
Sell me a bag, cuh