ADOBE FLASH IS FINISHED

>>61556863
>at the end of 2020
So it's a zombie for a few years. Great.

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Fucking finally.

>>61556863
About time. I haven't had it installed in years personally and already set it to click-to-load for all close friends and family before browsers started doing that by default.

>>61556863
Flash content should be flagged as malware, plain and simple.

Thanks Steve Jobs.

>>61556917
>I haven't had it installed in years personally
Ironically there is enterprise software which is dependent on it, like VMware vCenter. They technically have a HTML5 client but is is very limited.

How will /f/ recover from this one

>>61556863
d-does this mean /f/ will have to close doors?

Just release the code and the format under an Open Source license, for fucks sake.
There is still a lot of content in Flash and Flash is still more lightweight than whatever HTML5 DRM-ridden bullshit websites are pushing right now.
Flash has no business at websites right now, but it can still be used as video and interactive animations.

>>61556978
Most likely.

I mean, some alternative to swf must exist, right? Something that works the same way as flash in that in can be shared?

We all know 4chan isn't gonna let people start uploading JavaScript ZIP files.

>>61556863
YES YES YES

>>61556863
fucking finally

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At the END of 2020? Do sites that use it really need that much of a heads up?

>>61557051
There are sites that entire business model revolve around Flash. Porn sites, online games, etc.

>>61556978
Adobe not supporting flash doesn't mean it will suddenly stop working.

What will happen to pirate sports streams

>>61557098
>he doesnt know

When will they release the source code to flash and the older shockwave?

>>61557082
Internet explorer, Mozilla Firefox, and Google Chrome will stop allowing flash to work. Adobe will also stop offering downloads to the Adobe flash player.

Yes, this means flash will stop working. Unless you use an insecure browser, of course. And this also means that all those terrible SWF exploits will continue to pile up.

>>61557003
Javascript is the only alternative. That's what internet has been moving towards; everything will be done with javascript, nothing requires a plugin anymore.

>>61557082
It's already a security nightmare and it'll get even worse if Adobe stops patching things. You'll still be able to play .swf files on your computer but nobody will be dumb enough to run them in browser.

>>61557098
They'll have to upgrade to HTML 5 players. Some of them have done that already. Acestream will still keep working too.

>>61557111
Meh, if they're really determined they can just download and run them in the offline flash player executable.

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>>61557132
Well, I seriously doubt that the 4chan moderators are going to start allowing people to upload JavaScript files, primarily because of all the nasty things you can do with JavaScript. I could be proven wrong though.


>>61557147
And that determination and effort required is why /f/ will be deleted. /f/ loses all of its appeal when you can't just click-to-view your flash files. Everything nice about flash goes out the window.

>>61557167
>He doesn't save the .swf for later
I bet you stream your porn, too. Faggot.

Flash format will be reversed engineered so their contents can be extracted and viewed as regular videos of they're videos or played in a libre flash player.

Has there been an effort to rewrite SDT yet? Obviously the mods wouldn't work no matter what but there are thousands of assets for all different characters that it would be a shame to throw it all away.

Last time I played it, it was a shitty experience if you tried to do some fast movements.

>>61557107
know what

>>61556954
Indeed.

>>61557109

Never, like any other company they will horde it for Trademark and Copyright purposes. So, *just* in case they need to revive it in the future :^) Silly goy.

>>61557255
Someone will fully reverse engineer the format someday.

>>61556863
>by 2020

Kek not yet

>>61556863
people should start taking screenshots of flash-based contents now for future /retro/ threads

Why is Flash so fucking insecure anyways?

Really never had a problem with Flash but I find html 5 heavy as fuck

>>61556978
>>61557167
>>61557364
/f/ is already saying goodnight sweet prince to flash, it's going to be 3 years of nostalgia left for the board.

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>>61556978
>tfw no more lolicatgirls

>>61556863
>content creators
this meme needs to end

>>61557419
this
For me html twitch stream lags and shutters hard, while flash one works fine, and flash is supposed to be bloated one i heard.

Also how should i run my old pron flash games once flash is kill for good ?
this is important

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>>61556863
But muh flash porn games

>>61557481
I want ability to play galidor quest on linux, which is shockwave and doesn't even have a linux port. Soon won't be possible to do even on windows.

>>61556863
Does this mean I wont be able to play JSK and other hentai games in my browsers anymore?

This fucking sucks, the Flash Pro is awesome and EXTREMELY simple to make content with, meanwhile in HTML5................

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>>61556954

>>61556863
>Where a format didn’t exist, we invented one – such as with Flash and Shockwave.
>We
Don't they mean Macromedia?

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>TWENTY FUCKING TWENTY
jesus fuck, this shit has been deprecated for almost 10 years and they still have the audacity of "maintaining" this piece of shit for 3 more years, they should just fuck off and stop altogether, nobody is ever going to miss them

>>61556863
I'll always have Flash CS6.

...right? now I'm worries about having to sign-in to install it. is there a workaround?

>>61557578
I'll miss them. I still use the FlashMX icon. Newgrounds is gonna miss them.

I realize it's just dumb nostalgia but it reminds me of a better internet.

F

>>61556863
>Where a format didn’t exist, we invented one – such as with Flash and Shockwave.

You mean you bought them. Flash / Shockwave was by Macromedia. Audition was a rebadged Cool Edit 2000. And thats just from the top of my head.

I'm downloading every version of Flash Pro and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>>61556863
>every hipser "nerd" is dissing Flash and Java on desktop
> apps for 80% of phones in the world are executed by modified Java Virtual Machine
i don't understand

>>61558044
It was the plugins everyone hated it, not the languages themselves

rip literally everything good about the old internet.

So when are we getting a SWF to Canvas shim that actually works?

>>61557111
>what is the standalone player
Yea sure they're gonna suddenly remotecontrol it to stop launching :^)
And by the way, Adobe has an official fucking downloadable archive of those on their site

So does that mean we'll finally get competent western animators ? Or will this shit just be replaced by 3DCG ?

>>61558177
>competent western animators
Calarts ensures there will be a steady stream of horrible animators for as long as they exist. But hey, every now and again you'll get an animator who puts love and passion into his work despite a sea of calarts clones.

>>61558177
Adobe Animate CC.

adobe open source it please

>>61556863
thank fuck for that

hopefully that means broadcasters stop using this wank for their streaming services

>>61558328
>Adobe
>doing something nice

That's not gonna happen.

>>61558328
this, or then just make a fucking switch in the settings or something that lets you opt out of all the shady shit the plugin is allowed to do like accessing your files, installing shit without permission and gathering information from your browser/pc

>>61556896
It has been a "zombie" for years now.

Too bad moz:lla are too retarded to keep working on shumway

>>61558493
There is still hope
https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/issues/2435

>>61558510
moz:lla won't support it. They are too busy morphing firefox into chrome.

>>61558328
I doubt they can, or that it would be of much benefit if they did. Flash is tied to and encompasses a ton of patents. Either they release it without a patent grant, in which case it isn't worth much. Or they release with a patent grant, which is a legal worry and difficult to justify to shareholders.

There are JavaScript libraries that are capable of parsing SWF files and rendering them in Canvas.
They are still in progress by multiple separate groups. (because they are all egotistical fucktards that won't work together)

Things like /f/ and Newgrounds will simply use one of these when 2020 rolls around.

Hell, Adobe might even help with that.
I'm going to be asking them to open source the entire thing. You should too, simply for the sake of archiving and conversion.

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>>61556863
Slow and steady wins the race.

All hail the new king.

>>61558595
>I'm going to be asking them to open source the entire thing. You should too, simply for the sake of archiving and conversion.
How?

>>61558603
Even microsoft has said to use HTML5 over silverlight. It's no longer usable in chrome and edge browser and they dropped support for the firefox and safari versions and only internet explorer remains.

>>61558603
KEK

B... BUT MUH ANIMATED FURRY PORN??

>>61558633
Message them. Petition them. Anything really.
Communicate with them on every platform you can.

Even if all that happens is they HELP contribute to an open source parser (even if it is shit), that helps massively.
I'm sure the countless people out there that still have flash-based systems would be interested in this.
They might make the argument of, "well, what if they just decide to never upgrade their stuff to actually embrace HTML5?"
The only response is "well, that is their loss."
The parser doesn't need to be perfect, just good enough to be able to view and work with the flash files as they were under the flash player.
Doesn't even need to be fast.
Preferably a VM for it would be better. A VM in wasm would be nice. Create a simple, strict communication layer in the VM to prevent even malicious flash files from abusing a system. (like spamming windows or opening URLs)

We have 3 years. 3 years to at least try.

>>61556863
>all those goodtimes at newsgrounds
Goodbye old friend

>all those securitywhores
Shouldn't you be running openbsd by now and sneakernet your email?

There's a handful of specific fetish porn tubes that still only use Flash so I can't uninstall it.

>>61556972
>like VMware vCenter. They technically have a HTML5 client but is is very limited

Update your software, the HTML5 version runs just fine now.

>>61557132
>Javascript is the only alternative. That's what internet has been moving towards; everything will be done with javascript, nothing requires a plugin anymore.

Enjoy variation in your JS engines with no standards for the runtime.

>>61557211
> every .swf is literally a video
You funny, nigga

>>61557249
>Has there been an effort to rewrite SDT yet?
You're asking someone to be equally proficient in Flash, decompilation and a comparable net-friendly alternative to Flash, for free.
Reverse engineering might get you the basics of puppetry but there's some complex stuff in there like the jizz ropes that actually had physics behind them not just prebuilt vector animations.

>>61559420
>Enjoy variation in your JS engines with no standards for the runtime.

This is what I'm worried about. JS cannot run half the shit Flash can while being stable and compabitible across different browsers.

>>61556863
I once did a fresh gnu/linux install and went months without noticing no flash plugin. That was like 2 or 3 years before html5.

>>61557321
Once they announced it is being discontinued, it is already dead.

>>61557059
This

What will Zone do now?

>>61559552
It's got its execution dead,but it's still breathing.

>>>/f/ags on suicide watch

This is what happens with proprietary software.
First (((they))) make you depend on it.
Then (((they))) kill it some day.
Fuck proprietary software.

>>61559566
Everyone will switch to HTML5 by January nobody will license it from that announcement on.

Does Adobe have any flash-like program that spits out HTML5 instead of swf?

>>61556863
How did Shockwave die off anyway? It's always Flash that gets a lot of flak.

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>>61559102
This.

I'm concerned because a lot of content and artwork (movies, games, animations, etc) has been released in the form of SWF files in the past two decades or so. I don't care if Flash dies or falls out of use, but I would like all those movies to remain accessible in their original forms for cultural/historical archival reasons.

It's unlikely to happen, but it'd be cool if Adobe released the source for Flash.

More likely to happen, I hope development on Gnash (or any other open source flash reimplementation) will continue so that even 50 or so years from now, the old .swf files can still be replayed.

>>61556863
what the fuck are you talking about, it's not 2009 anymore

>>61559451
>JS cannot run half the shit Flash can while being stable and compabitible across different browsers
Enjoy trying to synch action and sounds. That only happened in Flash because John Kricfalusi hammered on Macromedia to git'r done. Until JS can ensure an action takes place in a particular timeline REGARDLESS OF CPU SPEED and also ensure audio plays back within the same length, you won't get a clean alternative.

That being said, it will probably happen for exactly this reason.

>>61559937
>but I would like all those movies to remain accessible in their original forms for cultural/historical archival reasons

In all likelihood either a competent JS engine will be made (requiring changes to how JS works) or it will run in a minimized VM with no access to the host filesystem.

>>61556863
Man, I should really get around to archiving everything before it disappears from the internet forever. You don't know you miss something until it's gone

>>61559937
yeah, I'm hoping there's at least a few places to download these games and such, just like there's romsites.

>>61560137
I wish I still had the original .SWFs for Behind The Music That Sucks from heavy.com, the videos they rendered are edited to hell and barely cover all of them. And I even remembered to save them but those CDs went poof.

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>>61556863
Replying just to celebrate this long battle with cancer that we have won
Next stop: the google freemium model, and social media, that have destroyed the Internet

>>61556954

This.

That "evil capitalist" did more to end flash than all of the "free" software bitching about muh non-free content ever did.

Then: Flash is a plugin that adds functionality to a remote document renderer
Now: THE ENTIRE FUCKING BROWSER IS FLASH.

>plays audio
>does animations
>interactive scripting
>all on top of document rendering
>which has also gotten progressively more complex (simple according to web devs, but actually complex.)
FUCK

GOOD GOING.

>>61560825
the fact that much of flash's functionality is duplicated in modern browsers means that those two are never going away

they are enabled by this situation

>>61560928
>THE ENTIRE FUCKING BROWSER IS FLASH.
FF56 is visibly faster, however mozilla policy regarding add-ons and sjw bullshit puts me off

>>61556972
At least it's not Java6 HP ILO

>>61557727
>Newgrounds
What will happen to Newgrounds then?

I remember it from "The Problems Of The Future, Today!"
God I feel old as fuck.

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>Kill flash
>HURR DURR IT IS CANCER
>Replace with bloated js framework with babel, webpack and 50Mb js libs
>No IDE to animate and design
>Version hell
>Browser support hell
>FUTURE

all those ancient memes and porn flashes gone... in a flash

>>61556863
>Adobe has long played a leadership role in advancing interactivity and creative content
>not macromedia

>>61556992
that would mean all the investment goes to trash.

>>61561589
>sjw bullshit
Explain.

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>mfw /f/ was my homeboard for years.

>>61558361
>>61558371
>>61558552
If they made the PostScript specification public, why can't they do the same thing with Flash?

>>61561944
If adobe gets asked enough, they will release the source to flash player and shockwave player. It can happen, we have 3 years.

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>mfw i make furry porn flash games in flash and scared

>>61556863
God dammit the count down has started. I've been working on Adobe Flex and Java for years now.

Time to learn HTML5 I guess :P

i guess ytmnd can finally die now

>living in memezuela
>80% of government websites still use flash
>fucking central bank website uses flash

Thank god. The 2020 deadline is obviously for third world shitholes like mine to get their shit together.

I'm not a cuck, someone redpill me on what this means (other than newgrounds and toonami games being lost for no reason)

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>>61561753
>God I feel old as fuck.

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>>61556863
>118 posts
>so little nostalgia
It's like no one on here has ever ripped a .swf on dial-up for future fapping purposes; nor did they ever use View Source and expect to see a permalink to share on AIM.

>>61557727
>>61558595
>>61561753
Let us leave brandy and a cum bottle upon the grave once per year. Those hentai games were formative.

>>61560888
acktchually it was Google

>>61565010
bitch, I decompiled and translated Japanese .swf games

There is nothing that I would like to see more than Flash going to hell

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>TFW stuck maintaining significant, inherited legacy AS3/MXML app for the foreseeable future

>>61565164
>"Moan"
>"Moan"
>"No"
>"Moan"
Cry me a river, senpai.

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>>61556863

>>61556863
Well fuck, that's not good..

>>61556863
But how will we make celebrity-fake-nude-dress-up games now?

How do you say "Adobe"? Ay-duh-bee? Ayy-dop?

Just use the flash projector/standalone player anons

Now if I could just find those obscure swf files from when it was Macromedia Flash

The relics of the pre-mobileshit era won't die that easily

>>61556863
So, flash animations and flash games are gonna be dead?

>>61568272
.swf not dissapeared suddenly, just insecure, run in sandbox and all be fine.

>>61556863
I genuinely don't understand how it lasted as long as it did. I was truly bummed when Adobe started supporting Flash for linux again. It should have been dead half a decade ago, and it still has more than 3 years left.

>>61562585
Facebook is offering classes to teach game makers how to switch from Flash to HTML5.

>>61556863
Good riddance.

>>61556863
Oy vey, the goyim need to move on.

>>61564316
Pedro, do not underestimate debilicism of goverment, they still continue use flash and IE8. I know it, because i live in another shithole.

/f/ will be finished

F

>>61568524
/f/ is too precious for this world anyway

http://cancer-remission.ytmnd.com

>>61568524
They can just encode their projects to webm and they're welcome on /wsg/

>>61569057
This is fucking fantastic.

>>61569057
>http://cancer-remission.ytmnd.com
The huge irony being the flash loader.

Not seen a YTMND for nearly half a decade man.

>>61569474
>vagina is a proprietary port that only the female varient of homo sapiens have access to
no way fag

>>61556863
S

>>61558633
https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-make-flash-open-source-before-it-s-too-late

>>61568524
Can't they use something else?

>>61559806
Flash eventually got the ability to do what shockwave could and it ended up being more popular. Shockwave still needs to be open sourced along with flash.

>2020 - 3
>certain East Asian and turd world countries still use Flash for websites

>>61569143
idiot

>>61558603
Has anybody even used this piece of trash before? I haven't

>>61574618
Netflix

The best part of this is that hopefully it'll push Niconico to finally use an HTML5 player, but I'm not holding my breath since they seem so attached to their extremely dated beige flash video player

>>61559243
>HTML5 version runs just fine now.

vSphere HTML5 is missing half the features still.

>>61556863
Jobs called it 7 years ago >https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

>>61556978
>no more daily dose

>>61556863
>no more meet n fuck games
F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJfl8J9Fao

>>61556974
Like /gif/ did when .webm became popular

>>61557481
Twitch is still using Flash with a HTML5 player.

>>61556863
what the fuck am I gonna do with my BlazBlue porn game with that squirrel woman with the big tits

>>61575535
Just use the standalone projector.

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I found 4chan through /f/.

rip all the flash games of yesteryear

oh wait
>miniclip might finally die out
hail adobe

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>lock yourself to a proprietary format
>cry like a baby when the company decides to deprecate it because its literally a pile of shit
pottery

>>61557395
It isn't
Twats just like to parrot some bullshit about it because they all want to deep throat Job's necrotic dick

>>61576952
>>61576952
>implying flash had that reputation because muh macfags
Retards like you defending shitty proprietary software are the reason why ransomware attacks are still happening. At last this fucking attack vector is going down the drain. Too bad we still have to wait 3 years tho.

>>61556863
whos gonna archive all the shitty newgrounds games?

>>61557481
You run your browser sandboxed, any exploit won't be an issue then.

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>>61558603
every time i hear slow and steady i think of this picture

>Flash

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES

LOL

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-53/product_id-6761/Adobe-Flash-Player.html

10 / 10 CVE, THE WHOLE FUCKING PAGE IS RED

THESE FUCKERS WILL NEVER GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER

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>>61577248
>mfw it actually goes into the trash

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>>61577324
>mfw

>>61565179
I would just quit right away, is this really how you want to develop yourself in the upcoming years?

>>61561823
Your development setup with babel, webpack is meant to make your javascript much smaller than before you idiot.

Complain about the huge dependency tree but don't even say it is worse than flash faggot. Flash is absolute trash.