AMD Radeon RX Vega 3DMark Fire Strike performance

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>>61554623
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but muh drivers
sorry aymed, this is the end of the ride
leave gpu design to real men

>>61554623
Make it so the top rx Vega card is sub $400 and I'm sold. I never held hope AMD's new cards would even touch the 1080ti.

>>61554652
Don't worry. Now that AMD is pretty much dominating the CPU market in every regard against Intel and the profits are going to be rolling in, they can devote more money, time, and effort to their graphics card lines.

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>>61554652
Hmm...

>>61554690
But they won't.
GPUs are low margin shit.

>>61554690
>>61554720
They need to keep RTG going long enough to develop MCM GPUs before NVidia does.

>>61554733
But Vega is nice.
Also competing with nVidia is pointless, GPUs are low margin shit.

>>61554744
MCM GPUs could be high margins even at mid-range.

>>61554756
It's still basically non-existant margins compared to selling EPYCs to big dudes.

>>61554623
>Core Clock
>1924 vs 1630
>Memory Clock
>1263 vs 945
mysteriousmerchant.png

>>61554802
Different uarch and different memory.

Anyone got reference 1080 numbers? Comparing it to AiB is kind of stupid.

>>61554813
The rx Vega cards still use hbm2 right?

>>61554821
exact same numbers 1:1 to Founders edition 1080

>>61554652

But wait for 1 year to mature drivers. Is the FineWine™ technology.

the twist going to be the price this year
$320-350 for RX Vega XT that equals 1080.

wishful thinking, but i'll die of laughter if it is

How the fuck can it compete with P6000?

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>They think it's the full fat RX

>>61554885
Because the first $1000 Vega card is a workstation card really. 16GB of HBM2 ram and a huge memory bandwidth. Professional workloads are handled differently by the card than gaming loads.

This is similar to when the Hawaii chipset released with it's 512-bit bus. It was a number crunching monster while being Only OK for gaming.

>>61554995
Creo is completely geometry bound.
>huge memory bandwidth
250Gb/s effective?
It's fucking crippled.

>>61554883
I can see the low end Vega being $325-$350.

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>>61554623
Good thing I went with Polaris

>>61554821
Vega RX = Vega FE

>>61554660
Rumors so far are that the top vega is watercooled just like the fury x. So it's very unlikely that it's going to be 400 buckaroos or less.

>>61554623
That's the smallest RX Vega.

>>61555459
Nop

>>61555500
Prove me wrong, fag.

>>61555512
The small Vega is the XL Vega and the score is the same than the Fe...

We just saw Vega's big debut in FE. Say, 10%, maybe 15% extra performance can come from optimized drivers in the RX line.
It's still a hot, slow joke. They'll have to compete on price alone, and hope consumers ignore the housefire TDP.

>>61555554
They ignored them for Intel and when Nvidia had housefires.
So I guess people don't mind that much?

>>61555584
No, because it's AMD.
If it's AMD - it means that's bad.

>>61555584
The difference being the gap in TDP is insane this time around and AMD is a year later than the competition.

Plus Nvidia's cards, even though they had high TDP, actualy were the fastest.

AMD will come out with a card with insane TDP that might not even beat the 1080, let alone the 1080ti, a year later

>>61554623
User: "TheGameTechnican"

This guy is in AMD's marketing department, lmao, you people are getting trolled.

>>61555606
>Plus Nvidia's cards, even though they had high TDP, actualy were the fastest.
5970 killed anything Thermi.
No, that's not an excuse.
>>61555608
>it's another eyefinity-tier shitflinging from ATi
Come on.
Don't do that.

>>61555629
>Don't do that.
No, the dude is LITERALLY part of AMD's marketing department, you'd think he'd leak performance a week before launch unless he wants to lose his job?

>>61555629
If you cannot see how releasing a 1080 performance card with 375w tdp, at the same price point, a year later is bad, when the competition has a 1080ti at lower power consumption you are delusional

>>61555640
Wait, really?
That's just silly.
>>61555655
It's full GP102 performance with ~280-300 watts of power.

>>61555640
sandbag? false flag?

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>>61555661
>It's full GP102 performance with ~280-300 watts of power

Yeah...no

I'm warning you to not overhype it, you'll only be disapointed

>>61555678
Either that or crazy.
Maybe trying to deflate hype? Kinda weird after AMD hyped it up themselves.

RTG must have body parts with different opinions.

>>61555678
It's pretty fucking obvious that they are sandbagging.
It performs like full GP102 and yet they are not shilling FE like there's no fucking tomorrow.
They are dead silent.
>>61555693
G*rmans literally benched FE in SPECapc.
It's about as good as GP102 WHILE killing it in geometry.

>>61555640
Weird part is that nobody has given links to those results, not even cached ones since the originals have been "deleted".

>>61555706
>Kinda weird after AMD hyped it up themselves.
How.
There was like two HBCC demos before and ES showcase in DOOM.
That's it?

>>61555710
Ah so the goalpost has switched to none gaming performance now

>>61555724
Oh hi INElite-junior.
Get a fucking trip.

>>61555724
Because it's weird it doing so good in graphical workloads with geometry bottlenecks but doing so bad in other graphical workloads with geometry bottlenecks.

If it was doing so good in compute I wouldn't care, but it's not compute.

>>61555734
We are talking about RX Vega, a gaming card

>b-b-ut m-muh non gaming performance

How do you people take yourself seriously

>>61555721
I think he means that poor volta bullshit. I bet that dude who made that video got fired.

>>61555742
The Fury X also was supposed to murder the 980ti on paper yet failed hard

What matters is actual performance

Is it better than GP102 in int8?
Did anyone ever bench it with ML shit BESIDES Deepbench?
>>61555748
Get a fucking trip.
>>61555764
What?
Are you fucking retarded?
Fiji would be dead in something like Creo.
But Vega performs splendidly.

>>61555764
Fury X gets demolished by a P4000

Did ANY faggy reviewer bench Vega FE in ML shit?

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>>61554623
WAIT FOR NAVI

>>61555764
Productivity apps aren't "on paper". If anything it's an area AMD usually doesn't do well in

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>>61554623
AMD faggots BTFO'D

HOW WILL THEY RECOVER

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>>61554623
The big problem is the power draw, HBMeme was a mistake

>>61556625
What does memory have to do with power draw?

>>61554773
>selling EPYCs
Their marketing department needs to be gutted.

>>61556625
HBM draws less power than gddr you mong. The chip it self is just pure shit.

>>61556667
Why.

>>61556667
you understand that companies don't give a shit about the names of the stuff they buy right?

>>61556681
Because le cringe name XDDDDDDDDD
be sure to subscrible to my reddit cringe blog whjere everything is cringe

>>61556697
I am not going to sit and argue now need to hit the sack, save the smug neemus for tomorrow.

>>61556649
HBM was supposed help the power draw.
>>61556679
This is my point, the GPU is so shit than HBM is useless

>>61556805
Then how was it a mistake? Imagine what the power draw would be like without HBM.

>>61556831
+10-15 watts max.
The die would be bigger though.

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>>61556831
This shit is expensive for nothing, at this point, save few more watts is not important. AMD should put HBM memory only in pro or compute cards like Nvidia

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>>61554985

Frontier has the same shit performance, dumb animefag.

>>61556848
Try 30-45. The controller has significant savings. You'd save 10-15w on the memory alone

$399, ~1080 performance, +285w.

Save this

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>>61554623
AMD put THREE 8pin connectors on it.
Pic is too wide for 2 8pins.

>>61554623
From HardOCP

>Just a little tease here as to what is coming this week. RX Vega FreeSync vs. GTX 1080 Ti G-Sync Blind Gaming test video being edited now. All done at my house, with gamers with a couple hundred years of twitch gaming experience. All system UEFI and OS set up by me personally. […] AMD wanted me to use a 1080. […]

>>61559717
doubt

>>61560216
>AMD gives RX Vega to fucking (((Kyle))) of all people
Why.
>>61559717
No, it's 2x8pins tops.

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>>61554623
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP THE SECRET 1080TI FEATURES ARE TURNED OFF

I'll wait until some real benchmarks come out.

Why the fuck does it perform so well at workstation tasks, be it compute or graphics, but suck so much at gaymen?
Also did anyone bench it in ML stuff?
At least fucking deepbench.

>>61560563
Hur dur it's a big conspiracy

>>61554623
>workstation card performs well at workstation tasks and sucks at gaming
>gaming version of the card comes out
>better at gaming but still not great
>fanboys "woah wtf it is like full GPU 102 but not in gaming woah really activates my almonds makes me think man woahhhhh"
Fucing retards
Go ahead use the standard responses
>m-muh geometry bound workload
>m-muh secret features turned off

>>61560705
Hello, INElite-junior.
Get a fucking trip.

>>61560717
What?

>>61560726
Tpип нaцeпи.

>>61560726
some fag from r/amd found ED and tries to fit in

>>61560754
>>61560740
No idea what either of these things are

1070+1600 master race

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>>61554623

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d0IcYHcytM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MOMMY DID IT

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>>61562751
Just Wait™

>>61560705
LMAO you're still so mad that you literally have no idea what any of Vega's new uarch features even ARE and are too lazy and stupid to look any of them up and learn something.

Reminder, a list of Vega uarch features that were disabled in Vega FE gaming drivers:

Tile Based Rasterization: Disabled
Primitive Shaders: Disabled
High Bandwidth Cache Controller: Disabled
Advanced Clock Gating: Disabled
Automatic Voltage & Frequency Scaling: Disabled

Who the fuck knows if RTG's driver team can get any of this shit implemented by RX Vega's launch?

>>61562779
>REEEEEEE THE SECRET SAUCE WAS OFFFFFF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT GPUS

>>61562950
(You) tried.

>>61562779
You are crazy

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>>61562981
You'll fucking see
SLI titan X performance for 200$

>>61563061
And 130w TDP!!!

>>61563061
Wow, a wojak edit!
How wonderful!
Fucking hell put some effort into (You)r shitposting, please.

>>61563050
Yeah, that's why Gamers Nexus got a ¬7% performance GAIN by undervolting Vega FE to 1.09v and 280 watts, right?

>AMD floats their entire GPU branch for the past 3 generations on MUH BITCOIN MINERS
>finally has to play hardball with GPU specs again
>WHY ISN'T IT WORKING?
>meanwhile their CPU branch just released a market beating processor system that's made their competition shit themselves for the complete same reason AMD's GPUs are shit

Competition is the name of the game and AMD went for the short term gains instead of the long term dominance in terms of GPUs and it shows with their strategy.

Nvidia also has a years lead. They could release the 1100 series now and completely assblast AMD just by making their shit more efficient which is what AMD has struggled with for years.

At least Ryzen is good.

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>>61562751
I want to believe. I don't want to get my hopes up, but goddamnit I want to believe.

>>61563282
> Nvidia also has a years lead.
Ha ha no.
>They could release the 1100 series now and completely assblast AMD just by making their shit more efficient which is what AMD has struggled with for years.
Ha ha no, bigger dies = moar heat.
>>61563318
You don't need to believe, they dont expect you to.
Just wait and see it for yourself.

They should shut down their high end card division and concentrate on getting their mid range cards production increased.

>>61557551
$399
1070 performance
+350w
Nvidia announces 1100 series day after.

Save this.

>>61563523
$You're a retard
You're a retard performance
+You're a retard w
Nvidia announces you're a retard day after

Save this.

>61563672

Sure thing, Aymed.

>>61562779
>working class investor damage control

That you or others consistently claim clock/domain gating and AVFS are not present because of disabled driver features is the icing on the cake.

>>61557551
580s aren't even $399 get real.

>>61564191
Why the fuck it's not downvolting even while throttling if AVFS is present and working then?
It's 1.2v no matter what happens.

>>61564276
You don't expect him to have any evidence, do you?

>>61562751
https://videocardz.com/71172/amd-radeon-software-17-7-2-brings-enhanced-sync
it's fucking nothing

>>61564901
It's quite a decent new featureset for the drivers, I don't see anyone complaining besides the "why is it not a 1080ti competitor reeee!!"

>>61564926
It's a nice feature to have. But that tweet is kinda inappropriate considering the recent drama.

>>61564943
The only ones shitting up the drama are ones who wanted an expensive card, a 1080(which is hella expensive, 1080ti has better price/perf) competitor for cheap would be a great choice for many people considering AMD's most powerful current card is a Fury X that's EOL and is over 40% slower.

>>61554623
If these are done on the blower card Kyle got from ASUS that looks like a Polaris cooler, this shit will throttle way below 1400MHz.
Give it a decent heatsink and fans and you'll hit 1700MHz or higher on better silicon, those are significant performance differences.

Problem is heat though, can your case handle 400W?

>>61554690
>>61554720
>>61554733
>>61554744
>>61554756
>>61554773
And they say /g/ isn't sponsored by AMD. Literally rooting for the profits of a company.

>>61565015
The arch for gaming is a failure, if it can overclock to the moon and is cheap then it's gonna be really nice for everyone not giving a shit about power draw.

>>61555606
TDP is pointless. Nvidia and Intel always put lower than what it actually uses

>>61565083
Proof besides shit from a long time ago from nvidia?
Don't care about intel, we know their shit is housefires

>>61565053
GN got it to 1700/1100 on a ghetto cooler, I assume good silicon could hit close to 1800MHz, maybe some higher HBM frequencies due to 4hi stacks instead of 8hi stacks on RX?

Prepare a exhaust pipe though

>>61565173
Well, if anything AMD seemed to have reached close to clockspeed parity with Nvidia, would probably do even better on a different process.

Now to unfuck the arch in everything else.

>>61565173
>overclocking HBM
o shit nigger don't do it

>>61564968
Yeah. I am sure AMD didn't drive up the hype with Poor Volta and Raja making fucking announcement after announcement about it being a good card. Blame the fans instead.

>>61565198
People have been running HBM overclocked on Fiji for years, no issue. Just keep it cool.

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>>61554623
>AMDtards waited a fucking year for vega after GTX 1080's release and it's not even as good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61565215
AMD is terrible at hype and marketing, want a cookie for this discovery?

>>61565234
So AMD being terrible at hype and marketing is the reason for shitting up the drama not the other away around. Can you understand that simple fact you imbecile?

>>61565216
None of my friends can keep stable memory clocks from their Fury Xs
core clocks are fine but if they even touch the memory it shits out

5 people with Fury Xs, technically 4 cause one just bought two 480s to "mine" or whatever the fuck

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Man, I hate Nvidia. I also hate AMD's incompetence the last two generations. At least Polaris was ok, but this just looks bad. Guess I'm waiting for 2-3 die Navis.

>>61565267
>Guess I'm waiting

This will never get old

>>61554623
>AMD tries to market Vega as a Volta killer
>It can't even compete with Pascal
Jesus Christ can someone put AMD out of its misery? Why can't a competent company like Samsung buy them and fire all the fucking shit for brains indians and actually make a good product.

>>61565267
Wait™

@61565279
>AMD only makes add-in board GPUs
>>>>>>>>>>>>(You)

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xD

>>61565295
>he thinks this is fucking twitter

lmao

hello newfriend

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Just wait for Navi

@61565314
f*ck off id*ot

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>>61565310
JESUS CHRIST
OH MY FUCKING GOD

oh shit I needed a good laugh today thank you anon, thank you

>>61554623
You've heard this before, but.
WAIT FOR VEGA.
It's next week. Real benchmarks of real RX Vega cards.

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>>61565347
>benchmarks found in the 3d mark database aren't real benchmarks

>>61565347
Synthetic benchmarks always favors AMD.
I fear for what real in game benchmarks will do for Vega cards.

>>61565310
>AMD's latest and greatest flagship on 14nm loses to 2 year old 28nm card

Is RTG an ironic company?

>>61565328
>*
I hate this shitty meme. End yourselves.

>>61565370
That's not a meme, that's a wildcard

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>>61565310
MUH HBM2

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>>61565396
>"Hey vega might actually be pretty good and kick nvidia in the teeth"
>AMD:

How is it this slow? I don't get it. Same core count as Fiji with blazing stupid clocks in comparison yet it's barely any faster. How did they fuck up this badly? Polaris got IPC improvements, it's a pretty good chip, who did they deviate so much from it? Fuck. I am very frustrated. Might as well wait™ for next generation. Maybe the process shrinks and MCM GPUs will finally hit 60fps on the UHD. I'd be fine with the 7970 but it was out of stock at the time, I'm still on fucking Kepler goddammit.

>>61565411
It's been said plenty of times, major new features are not enabled in the drivers. Drivers are just unfinished. All the shitposting from /v/ermin crossboarders is just noise pollution.

>>61565428
>mfw that leaked slide from months ago putting vega at higher fps than the titan x is unironically true

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>>61554623
Jewish slide thread detected

>>61554702
I don't get how Vega can be such a failure in gaming workloads while keeping up or surpassing even a P6000.
Wasn't Vega supposed to correct GCN's flaws that bottlenecked its gaming performance? How the fuck is it worse?

If it wasn't for its workstation performance, I'd jump on the >Vega is a failed architecture bandwagon.
There might really be something completely fucked in their gaming drivers that could explain the terrible performance there.

>>61565411
Here are the standard responses
>the special 1080ti features are turned off
>you don't know anything about GPUs if you say otherwise
>something something full gpu 102
>something something tile 3.5 litre v8 tile based rasterization dual tanked quarter pounder engine
>something something stupid /v/

Fuck everything, I will wait for the actual release.

>>61565464
>try to mock people who actually know what they're talking about
>end up sounding like a brain damaged toddler instead

>>61565310

Source?

>>61565451
It might hit $17 tomorrow.

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>>61554623
i wonder who is behind this one...

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I can't believe I waited a year and a half for this.

>>61565428
What are we? 5 days from launch? These drivers are probably release ready unless you think they are stupid enough to launch unfinished drivers with the Vega. Then again this is AMD.

>>61565464
You're also forgetting
>The only reason RX Vega is bad is because the marketing was bad!

>>61565507
>marketing on a unannounced product
nice try

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>>61565494
NO

>>61554623
>Going from based still relevant Hawaii to Fiji

How?

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>>61565474
See here we go
Pretty standard responses >>61565411

>>61565526
>Muh blind test
>Feels before reals

>>61565499
I cant believe intel still pays you to post shitty slide threads on this anime imageboard

>>61565494
http://anandtech.com/show/11660/amd-announces-q2-2017-results-ryzen-makes-an-impact
I hope not, I'm still poor and can't invest. I couldn't do it when it was $2 and I still can't do it now.

>>61565531
>17 dollars is scary for nvidia
Their stock price is 160

>>61565552
Nvidia is stupidly overvalued for what they do.

>>61565561
If you think Nvidia is stupidly overvalued, short them.

>>61565552
Stock price is only half of the picture, look at Intel, it's "only" at $34

>>61565561
Not at all
They are basically in the office of every single production company, modeling, etc
fucking anything computers and they are there

they are in cars and shit too, hell I think my roommates autopark feature is literally powered by some nvidia shit

>>61565552
better yield over the last 2 years than nvidia, besides nvidia is astronomically overvalued and and will crash within the year

>>61565548
>In a GPU thread
>Discussing Intel
AMD pajeet shills don't even know English well enough to understand what the fuck is going on.

>>61565584
>besides nvidia is astronomically overvalued and and will crash within the year
Money where your mouth is. Short Nvidia and make a killing.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

AMD is wasting their time in the add-in board market anyway. Their best selling Polaris is the RX 460 (about the same as a 1050) which has a whopping 0.5% marketshare. And Polaris was pretty damn competitive, especially in newer DX 12 titles and had great perf/dollar. Even if Vega was amazing it wouldn't sell. The gayming market just doesn't buy AMD.

>>61565579
nvidia also made 1.64 billion
I think AMD just finally broke even after however many years

>>61565581
>they are in cars and shit too
what a $70000 meme car made by elon "switch our servers to windows" musk, no one cares

>>61565584
>better yield over the last 2 years than nvidia
two years ago Nvidia was at 40 bucks
sure AMD was at 2 dollars but still, 40 to 160 is a fuckhuge leap

>>61565597
It is not like the gayming market can buy AMD.
>580/480 completely out of stock
>No high end cards either

>>61565594
>he cant see the bigger picture
im wondering if you are pretending to be stupid or just plain stupid

>>61565607
>no one cares
normies do, and they are the majority of the population

>>61565615
It's all based on AI memes. If that shit doesn't pan out, prepare for a stock implosion.
>>61565619
Yeah, miners really stripped mine that stock . Doesn't change the fact, gaymurz didn't buy shit.

>>61565615
40 X 4 = 160
2 X 8 = 16

amd as an investment is 2x better than nvidia

>>61565635
sure
>>61565637
I actually was wrong, it was 20 dollars this time last year now it's 165

>>61565627
>normies are buying teslas and audis
no they aren't they are buying shitty used cars from the early 2000's or garbage murrishit cars

>>61565637
And about 2x times as risky.
If Ryzen didn't pan out or if Vega is a huge flop, the prices might drop.

>>61565648
*two years ago

>>61565648
still a lower yield, no wonder you stay poor with investments that don't octuple over 2 years

>>61565635
>Doesn't change the fact, gaymurz didn't buy shit.
Why would they? Especially since Nvidia cards consistently perform better in game (even if it is via jewish tactics like Physx or Nvidia gaming). AMD needs to catch up and sandbagging their entire GPU department cause Gaymurz don't buy shit isn't going to help.

>>61565651
>muh risk
stay poor poorfag, you fundamentally will never make money

>>61565664
>He bought AMD as an investment instead of ETH that has increased 1000x year to date

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>>61565664
160 divided by 20 is 8 you absolute fucking retard

>>61565685
Kill yourself moron. I invested in green energy and am making a bigger killing then you investing in shitty tech companies that can dip on a whim due to poor products and competitors.

>>61565664
>still a lower yield
Do you not know how to into math?

>>61565701
and it will crash before the end of 2017 because it is the single most overvalued silicon valley stock

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>>61565678
>hurr durr Polaris sucked
>hurr durr NVidya consistently better

Constant misinformation like this is what causes AMD to never sell shit because gaymers are retards that play telephone tag with eachother and will keep buying NVidia regardless. The consumers are too dumb to even want competition.

>>61565734
>it is the single most overvalued silicon valley stock
That is Tesla baby.

>and it will crash before the end of 2017
Like I said. Put your money where your mouth is. Go and short Nvidia poorfag.

>>61565708
>I invested in green energy
my condolences, you are retarded

>>61565734
>w-well it's gonna crash
jesus man you're really on damage control with this one
Move along pajeet

>>61565737
Wow 580 is so good. Let me get my hands on that 580. Opps. There is no stock.
Misinformation isn't the only reason AMD doesn't sell shit

>>61565714
Do you not know how to into stocks?

>>61565746
im making more money on amd so why bother, and the amd stock price isn't going down until zen is over so i got a few more years

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>>61565737
>AMD had to release ANOTHER card to finally beat the 1060 by 2%

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Anyone with a brain saw this coming from miles away. Just for the love of fuck don't price those things above 500 bucks. Give us the 1070 equivalent for 349 and everyone will be happy.

>>61565770
>Y-You just don't know stocks
2x8=16
20x8=160

wooooooooow it's the saaaaaaame

fucking moron

>>61565771
You forgetting Nvidia released a 1060 with higher memory frequency that beat the regular 1060 by a few % a month earlier?

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>>61565752
>overpriced stocks don't crash
underage detected

>>61565761
>out of stock
>AMD doesn't sell shit
ALL MY WHAT

>>61565761
>>61565771
Said the useless faggots that were never going to buy AMD anyway and deserve to get turbocucked by monopoly prices when AMD finally says "Fuck it" and walks away from the consumer add-in board market for goot.

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>>61565787
its ok when we do it goyim

>>61565790
>make one basketball
>sell it
>wooow holy shit basketballs are selling like hotcakes

>>61565770
>im making more money on amd so why bother
You said Nvidia will crash. Buying a short on a crash is multiple times more profitable then gradual increases in stock prices. Are you stupid?

You are just a fucciboi roleplaying buying stocks with no balls to put money where his mouth is. Figures.

>>61565790
>YOU'RE AN UNDERAGE IT'S OVERPRICED CAUSE IT'S NOT AMD
>AMD IS THE BEST THE DESERVE THE BEST STOCK SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
literally neck yourself lmao

>>61565786
and nvidia will crash because it is overvalued

so you don't understand stocks, its speculation you dumb fucking shitskin

>>61565790
>AMD doesn't sell shit
To gaymers you moron. You can't read the context of the post I was replying to? Are you clinically retarded? Serious question.

>>61565787
Atleast it wasn't a rebrand
It was literally the same card but with better memory now

AMD released the same card and called it something else

>>61565794
If AMD released something in stock and good, I would buy it.

>>61565790
>>61565823
>Nvidia is overpriced
>I-It's overvalued cause I said so
They are actually priced incredibly fair for how fucking big they are
Nvidia is literally everywhere

>>61565818
nice strawman

>>61565807
>implying miners are just buying one

>>61565813
then i """""might""""'" buy once it crashes

>>61565823
>nvidia
>has over 80% marketshare
>overvalued

>>61565835
Lol you retard, AMD released a card that could overclock higher than the 480, bumped up the clocks significantly and made it so it didn't throttle anymore, along with some well needed features like half rate memory for multimonitors/playback, it was literally a respin.

Meanwhile all that 1060 got going for it higher clocked memory, literally nothing else.

>>61565851
>overvalued cause I said so
no its overvalued because they are a fucking small fry when it comes to silicon valley, ride off of others innovations (like applel), and pour more money into mindshare and marketing rather than actually making batter products

>>61565852
You are so sure that is is overvalued and a crash is eminent. Literal free money here fucciboi. Face it. You are just roleplaying someone who knows stocks. Stocks have no "loyalty". You buy a company doing well. You short a company you think is going to crash. The fact that you consistently bias AMD and calling Nvidia overvalued and then refuse to put mouth where your mouth is shows you that you are just roleplaying.

>>61565864
>nvidia
>6x less revenue than Intel
>only 50% lower market cap

Overvalued.
Or Intel is undervalued, but considering it's been steadily dropping for the last month, that's unlikely

>>61565871
>AMD has to completely overclock the fuck out their card and add more features and completely respin in order to beat the 1060 by 2%
jesus that's pretty sad

>>61565881
>and pour more money into mindshare and marketing rather than actually making batter products
Yeah. They pour money into useless shit and still come up with better products than AMD. AMD pours money into stupid shit like poor volta and comes up with garbage like Vega.

>>61565891
>>61565881
Intel is undervalued, so is AMD
Nvidia isn't even close to being a small fry

>>61565831
money is money faggot doesn't matter if its some /v/ underage gaymor kiddie or a miner, amd makes money either way

>>61565864
>has over 80% marketshare
>in a niche market
no one cares about discrete gpus except for autismos from /v/

>>61565894
Keep crying.

>>61565915
This is a thread about RX vega, the gaming card
so drop your /v/ boogerman

>>61565908
>Intel is undervalued,
If Intel is undervalued then it wouldn't move at glacial speeds, it's way too slow.

>>61565915
The context of the argument if you bothered reading is the fact that gaymers don't buy AMD. But of course you didn't read that cause you are a moron.

>>61565908
>Nvidia isn't even close to being a small fry
almost the same revenue as amd, and niether of them are "big" when it comes to silicon valley, shit like intel, applel, and microshit are the big boys

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>>61565921
>Y-You're just crying

>>61565938
This is a thread about taking the heat off of intel getting btfo in every conceivable way

you cant fool aryans goldstein

>>61565946
An assertion that a surge in sales due to a volatile secondary use market helps them capture market share is equally retarded.

>>61565950
>almost the same
it's 6 billion
compared to 4 billion
actually Nvidia is 7 billion now

they are 3 billion apart
that's alot of fucking money

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>>61565955
NO THE 1060 IS GETTING BTFO PAJEET SHOVEL 2 BILLION MORE INTO MARKETING

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>>61565972
ur gay and no one cares about your "opinions"

>>61565975
and AMD will be closer to 5-6 billion this year due to ryzen, calling it now

>>61565972
Did Brian mobilize the Jester to damage control tonight?

>>61565972
That assertion was never made. Someone claimed that the only reason people didn't buy AMD was because of constant misinformation when in fact it was a myriad of issues, leading causes now being they are overpriced due to mining, out of stock due to mining or simply not available for the high end market.

>>61565894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E36vwoQrIsE

They're pretty damn even, even with the older 480.

>>61566005
That is not how it works. Majority of that million will go back into R&D and especially to dig them out of the hole that is RTG. They won't gain 2 billion in networth unless all they do is obtain more assets and sit on them with the Ryzen cash.

>>61566005
20% QoQ for Q3 and a conservative 10% for Q4 would put them at 5B

>>61566012
Your right I didn't read past a few comments and assumed.

>>61565846
Said every NVidya fanboy ever. Face it, even when AMD had a superior product on the market, NVidya still outsold them. AMD should abandon consumer add-in boards and focus on workstation, prosumer, embedded, APU, etc.

>>61566060
>and assumed.

The Life of a tripfag, now until death

>>61566045
like i said anywhere from 5-6

>>61565991
Your gay and you care about my opinions so technically you are admitting that your self esteem is non-existent.

>>61566101
permabtfo tripfag

>>61566066
If AMD wasn't incompetent, we might be able to test your theory out. As it stands, AMD is about to release a card that equals their competitor card from 1 year ago while running hotter and with higher TDP. Cry all you want, AMD is releasing an inferior product and it is actually AMD fanboys keeping RTG afloat and not Nvidia fanboys not buying Vega cause objectively Vega looks like shit aside from the price (which we don't know yet and might also be shit)

>>61565042
So you don't want competition in the gpu market? Do you enjoy biting the pillow?

>>61566179
I prefer the competition not to be the retarded kid that eats sand at the playground.

>>61566141
>If AMD wasn't incompetent, we might be able to test your theory out
Thermi.

>>61566141
>>61566188
Endless jerking off from Nvidia fanboys. You really deserve monopoly prices. You deserve to get fucked in the ass by leather jacket man every night while he jacks up prices on mid-range GPUs again just because he can.

>>61566141
fermi motherfucker, do you know it?

>>61566224
Was 7 years ago.

>>61566231
Yes. Fuck Nvidia fanboys. I WILL BUY INFERIOR PRODUCTS AND ENJOY IT. Fuck off moron.

>>61566234
Was 7 years ago. Are you telling me the last time AMD came up with something competent and competitive was in 2010?

>>61566241
oh so before you discovered 4chan, i get it

>>61566256
You are a fanboy. You would never buy an AMD product even if it shat all over anything NVidia had to offer.
>Are you telling me the last time AMD came up with something competent and competitive was in 2010?
That's the last time they came up with something that completely blew NVidia out. They've always been competitive on some level.

>>61566256
see >>61566276

>>61566283
They always been competitive on the pricing alone.
>>61566276
>>61566287
Hurr durr suck more amd dicks

>>61566327
you have autism

>>61554623
glad I returned my Vega FE and picked up a 1080 with a 1440p plus another 8 gb of RAM.

>>61567035
Why the fuck did you buy an FE for gayming?

>>61567047
Didn't buy it for gayming, thought it might mine well, it didn't so I thought, maybe I'll use it for muh DEEP LEARNING, except nothing in that field is supported well for AMD gpus. It ran SETI/Folding@home like a beast tho

ryzen is good, vega is shit

>>61565042
>an anon describes how most business is conducted
>"OMG UR SUCH A SHILL GRAPHICS CARDS SHOULD BE BASED ON THE BUYERS FEELINGS! THAT WAY ITS AN UNBIASED CHOICE"

Good thing I didn't have high hopes for this generation anyways.
Currently sitting on my Fury X, happy with it, lets see how Navi pans out.

Looking for at least a 2.5x performance increase over my Fury X with either Nvidia or AMD to even consider upgrading from this baby, until something like that comes out for around 600 buckerinos I won't be upgrading anyways.

I think 980Ti owners feel the same way, would be a waste of money otherwise.